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Speaker 1: Turns out that Charles Lebron James wind up playing in

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Speaker 1: Used to know him on ESPN, but he's all NBA everything. Chris,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't do that, but I'll tell you what it's sources.

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Speaker 1: or another He'll be playing even if he's hurt. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the day. When Lebron goes, whether it's

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Speaker 1: in five years Warriors, I hope he plays as long

424
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Speaker 1: as he wants because as much as I break his chops,

425
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, I want guys to have great careers, to

426
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Speaker 1: have healthy careers. Who's gonna be the person when Lebron

427
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Speaker 1: goes that, Me and you were gonna be chirping and

428
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: chiming about who's gonna be the next guy? You know, like,

429
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, like right now, it's like Lebron is the guy.

430
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Speaker 1: Steph Curry's below the radar. You know, he's a star,

431
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: and he's one of my favorites, but he doesn't stir

432
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Speaker 1: the pot. You know, he's not in controversy Durant, you know,

433
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: even though he gets in there. But like, who's gonna

434
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Speaker 1: be the guy that's gonna it's gonna have the most

435
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Speaker 1: people talking on the podcast. Who's gonna have the most

436
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Speaker 1: people talking on Fox Sports and the most people talking

437
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Speaker 1: on the NBA. Who's gonna be that next guy? Who,

438
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Speaker 1: like would have a year ago I would have said,

439
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Speaker 1: and I think all of us would have said Steph

440
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Speaker 1: Curry right right, because he was clearly en route. Not

441
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Speaker 1: that he would have been as good as Michael Jordan's

442
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: but he was doing stuff that was jordan est his

443
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: three point shooting, the way they were winning it was.

444
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he was bringing in the casual fans. The

445
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: NBA fan is gonna be there no matter what Steph

446
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: and Jordan's brought in casual fans. You know that woman

447
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: at the office, you doesn't even like the NBA, but

448
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: she hears everybody talking about the big game, you know,

449
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: so she thows in. So but now that Kevin Durant

450
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Speaker 1: is going to Golden State, he's a better all around

451
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Speaker 1: player and Steph doesn't have to do as much, and

452
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Speaker 1: he's not, you know, he doesn't really have the When

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Speaker 1: you bring in another great player, you don't have the

454
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Speaker 1: room to do as much as you can do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do. I think he's able to drive to the

456
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Speaker 1: arena without the pressure of doing I gotta drop thirty

457
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Speaker 1: every night, you know, and we can win even if

458
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Speaker 1: I am not at the absolute top of my game.

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Speaker 1: So I would have said Steph, now, I would say,

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Speaker 1: you got a look if he stays healthy Joel m Vid.

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Speaker 1: But to the man, the man, I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: really think that he'll be the guy that will be

463
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Speaker 1: talking about like that that that that that he harnscended guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he can be transcended. But he

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Speaker 1: has the beyond the game. He has the personality. You know,

466
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Speaker 1: he's on Instagram. He's funny, he's almost like a little shock,

467
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Speaker 1: So he could be. He's a candidate. I think Carl

468
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: Anthony town in Minnesota is a candidate. Um, obviously it's

469
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Speaker 1: a league for the guard I don't you know, by

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Speaker 1: the time, like you said, if Lebron got say three

471
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: more years or two more years after this as a

472
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Speaker 1: top five player, by then, I don't know what guy's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. I don't know if any of these current

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Speaker 1: guys like Durant will be a little older himself, right

475
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: Westbrook will be a little older. I think Kyrie. Kyrie

476
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Speaker 1: has the game. He's got the old street ball type

477
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: game in the league that handled. But he's like the

478
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: street ball. He's like the street ball dude. And I

479
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: say this, and I love him, but like this nerd personality,

480
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: and I think it's great. I think it's such a

481
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: breaks the stereotypes of what you think. He's a suburban kid,

482
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Speaker 1: Yeahame is sick. But he's a suburb because he's actually

483
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Speaker 1: from near where I live, you know, New York. I

484
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Speaker 1: live in South Orange, New Jersey. He's the West Stores

485
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Speaker 1: right there. So yeah, he's a suburban kid. That's a

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Speaker 1: that's a great, great point. Um, So I don't that's

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Speaker 1: a great look. There might be somebody in college, right

488
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Speaker 1: you know, it might be lines of Ball from U C.

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Speaker 1: L A. Or you know that. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you know false this false kid from Washington and b

491
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Speaker 1: on that level, but um, yeah, it's and I think, look,

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Speaker 1: I would love for steps to kind of re emerge

493
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Speaker 1: is what he was last year. Um, but I just

494
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Speaker 1: don't know if there's the room for any one player

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Speaker 1: on that team. Jeff be completely dominant. And I think

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Speaker 1: that the storyline will always be the Durant, the Westbrook

497
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: of it, you know, you know, because if they don't lose,

498
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: then they blew it and Duran shouldn't have went there.

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Speaker 1: I just think that like the storylines. I think Steph,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's always gonna be exciting and have that

501
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Speaker 1: lovable quality and he's you know, he's a regular size dude,

502
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: which always helps. But I think at this point. It's

503
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Speaker 1: it's just about is Duran a good guy? Is he

504
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: a bad guy? And all that. I'm gonna let you go.

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Speaker 1: But going back to my Knicks free agency next year,

506
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Speaker 1: because this year is a wash. Were either gonna make

507
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, We're not gonna make the playoffs. But you know,

508
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, there's not gonna be any magic that happens

509
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Speaker 1: like in somehow or an eighth seed and make it

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Speaker 1: to the finals. Who who are the guys, um you know,

511
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Speaker 1: going to next season? The free agents that that the

512
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: Nick should be sniffing around. Let's assume Carmelo stays and

513
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Speaker 1: Phil Jackson stays and everybody goes on a yoga retreat.

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Speaker 1: Who would be the free agents that the Nick should

515
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Speaker 1: be thinking about? Like that could really help realistically. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you you hit it on the head. As far

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Speaker 1: as let's say Mellow stays around, Okay, the guy I

518
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Speaker 1: would be targeting if Mellow, if I'm if I got Mellow, Okay,

519
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Speaker 1: then I'm trying to win now, right or at least

520
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Speaker 1: be you know, a second third round playoff team. Now,

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Speaker 1: I'm the guy I'm going after is Chris Paul And

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Speaker 1: I know he's a little older and people might feel like, well,

523
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Speaker 1: that's not a move for the future. But if I

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Speaker 1: have Carmelo Anthony, I'm trying to get Chris Paul. We

525
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Speaker 1: know they're good friends. And I'm not saying I think

526
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Speaker 1: the best chances that Chris will stay with the Clippers,

527
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Speaker 1: but that's the team that is not really going anywhere,

528
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Speaker 1: and Golden States not going anywhere. You don't have to

529
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Speaker 1: go through them, so you might I know Chris likes

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Speaker 1: New York. Obviously, he's close with Mellow. I think he'd

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Speaker 1: be a guy that would be good for Porzingis and Mellow,

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Speaker 1: you know, and District get the ball where it needs

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Speaker 1: to be. So he would be a guy that I

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Speaker 1: would go to go for. Um. You know, there's talking

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00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: about a Kyle Lowry, but I think he's gonna stay

536
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Speaker 1: in Toronto. And I like Lowry, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather have Chris Paul, Drew Holiday. Drew is tough,

538
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: but Drew hasn't been able to stay healthy. Drew in

539
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: New Orleans very good point guard, but hasn't been able

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Speaker 1: to stay healthy. Um, but I would set my sight

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Speaker 1: or Chris Paul. And I'm not saying you can definitely

542
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Speaker 1: get him but I think you gotta you got a

543
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: decent shot. My last question, it's early February again, you

544
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: gotta bet the house who's winning the NBA Championship, assuming

545
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: everybody stays healthy, everybody is as is. I've got Golden State. Look,

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Speaker 1: I picked them in the preseason and I see no

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Speaker 1: reason to take step off of that now. Um, I

548
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: feel like the Cavaliers have a shot. I'm gonna completely

549
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: write them off, but I think they're they're only shot. Like,

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00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: this is what has to happen for them to win it. Lebron,

551
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: James and to a lesser extent, Kyrie Irvy have to

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00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: have historic series, like just phenomenal series and lift Cleveland

553
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: over a team that's better than it is. And look,

554
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: that's what they did last year. Don't state it was

555
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: a better team, but Cleveland with Lebron going for back

556
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: to back forty winds in the triple double in the final,

557
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Kyrie out playing Steph Curry, and look, Durant hasn't been bad,

558
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: but he's had times on the big stage where he

559
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: hasn't played up to his capabilities. You know, um, steps

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Speaker 1: steps hasn't been bad in the finals, but he hasn't

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Speaker 1: been regular season steps in the finals. Do you think

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00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: that he's been worn out or or I don't believe

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Speaker 1: it's the pressure. I feel like last year he was

564
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: just like he ran out of gas. Well, and then

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: the question is how bad was that the injury? You know,

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Speaker 1: and some people look that are close them will tell

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00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: you it was. It was handering him quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: You know. He has never come out and used as

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Speaker 1: an excuse um, so I think that could have been

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00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: a factor. I also think, look, I think his first

571
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: year he should have been the m v T. DeAndre

572
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Goodallar was great, but he's a role player and the

573
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: paths weren't even guarding him at the three point line.

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Speaker 1: Steph average point six and fist five rebounds and people

575
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: thought that was bad. I mean, come on, that's that's great.

576
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: So I thought he should have wanted the first year.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I look, Cleveland gets physical with him. That

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00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: the rest allow you to be a little more physical

579
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: than the playoffs. He was bumping. They bumped Steff you know,

580
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: when he's coming off screens, coming around nothing. Other teams

581
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: don't try to do it, but Cleveland has the personnel

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Speaker 1: to do it, and so I think that's a factor,

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00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: and then he going through the playoffs like look, last year,

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Speaker 1: you know you had to go through okay, see in

585
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 1: the conference finals with you you know, they gave him

586
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: obviously all they wanted, and then the finals you you

587
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: go with Cleveland. So um, I think though, I don't

588
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: think he was too worn out because look, he only

589
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: played about thirty three minutes a game last year. They

590
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: blew so many things out. So um, he's been good

591
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: this there's a misconception out there that he's actually been

592
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: bad in the finals. That hasn't been bad. He just

593
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: hasn't been what he what he was or what we

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00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: used to seeing in the regular season. All Right, Chris,

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Speaker 1: tell my fans because I know they'll love it, because

596
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: my fans, uh like my crazy takes on sports. You

597
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: got a new podcast that that that that's killing can

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00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: you can you tell? Can you tell the people the

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00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: name of it? Yeah? Yeah, it's called in the Zone

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00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: with Chris Bruce Are and it's a an NBA based podcast.

601
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: We have Michael Michael and you know, a couple of

602
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: weeks ago to defend the Knicks honor. Um, I think

603
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: he might want to take some of that back God

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00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: part two. Yeah, Yeah, that's right. But in the zone

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00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: you downloaded on iube um and also SoundCloud. But yeah,

606
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. We mixed in some hip

607
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: hop elements and stuff, so I think the fans will

608
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: enjoy it. Yeah, we gotta have all hip hop conversation

609
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: because because that's like a whole other, a whole other

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00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: thing that I think we could click on. Yeah, right now,

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00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go. I'm sure this has been

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00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: a crazy, a crazy few days with all the NBA

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00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: and the Oakley of it all. I appreciate you coming on.

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00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a humongous fan and anytime you want

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Speaker 1: me on your joint, I'm I'm on there, Chris. Shame

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00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: shame here, man. Anytime you need me, let me know.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I'm looking forward to seeing you in the

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Speaker 1: next movie, you know, and seeing you on the big screen.

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Speaker 1: But I love you, man, and we'll talk. I love

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Speaker 1: you too, my man. I'll talk to you soon, all right,

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