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Speaker 2: five following a Christmas Eve defeat at the hands of
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins. Twenty two to twenty was the final score,
Speaker 2: game winning field goal from Santa wins it for the Dolphins.
Speaker 2: As time expires, hope everybody had a safe and happy
Speaker 2: holiday weekend.
Speaker 3: It's time to talk football again.
Speaker 2: We've got Isaiah stand Back, We've got John Manchoda, no
Speaker 2: Nick Harris today, but Kyle Yeoman's here with Chris Beam
Speaker 2: in the back run and everything.
Speaker 3: Gentlemen, how was there the weekend? Everybody good? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Man, I flew on Christmas for the first time, so
Speaker 6: that was interesting. How was that honestly the exact same
Speaker 6: that it normally is, except there must have been less
Speaker 6: people out in the flight because I got upgraded first class.
Speaker 1: Hey sappy about that?
Speaker 3: About that? You told them who you are?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I did a lesson here, y'all.
Speaker 1: No, but I thought that.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be more of a hassle,
Speaker 6: and it was actually pretty easy to fly.
Speaker 2: Is that maybe because everybody's already where they need to
Speaker 2: be by Christmas Day?
Speaker 5: Is it the day before and day after?
Speaker 3: That's more of the day after. It has to be terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: today has to be terrible. Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I would think that's the reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably what it is. That's good. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So I had to fly on Christmas Day? We got
Speaker 3: back home. You good? Good from there?
Speaker 1: I am? I'm ready to roll here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, here you go. What about Tuesday? I got to
Speaker 3: sit down. It was awesome. Have you ever done that before, dude?
Speaker 3: Hardly ever, But it was awesome.
Speaker 7: I made some pizzas with the fan don't want to
Speaker 7: look a little pizza oven and that was it.
Speaker 3: Man. What the kiddos get this year? What it's saying
Speaker 3: and bringing?
Speaker 7: I got my my soccer players got them a ball launcher,
Speaker 7: which is pretty much like a jugs machine for soccer
Speaker 7: players company out out of Europe, So that was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: That was not cheap, but they need it and they're
Speaker 3: gonna use it. And what else?
Speaker 7: What else happened? My daughter? My daughter's sky. She likes
Speaker 7: bath bombs, so she got a bunch of bath bombs. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 7: there's some other stuff in there too, but that's her
Speaker 7: number one and lights led.
Speaker 3: Her room looks like a dog on nightclub. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: fog machine coming soon. It's crazy that they can smell fresh. Cash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, cash there you go.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, that's fun. I hope everybody had fun over
Speaker 3: the holidays. How about you, Kyle?
Speaker 2: It was fun Me and the wifey first Christmas married
Speaker 2: and in last Christmas Christmas kids so that wash.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was la Christmas.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be able to get up at like nine
Speaker 3: o'clock row, No, my kids crawled in my bed at
Speaker 3: what five am?
Speaker 8: Six am?
Speaker 3: I heard him run around upstairs.
Speaker 2: So her family does like Christmas Eve up really big, okay,
Speaker 2: And so as soon as we were done here, we
Speaker 2: went over to her uncle's house, which is in Dallas,
Speaker 2: and he's got a nice bar set up and they
Speaker 2: do like a big they call it the Feast of
Speaker 2: the Seven Fishes. It's just like an Italian tradition. So
Speaker 2: they've got like shrimp and sea bass and snapper and
Speaker 2: all sorts.
Speaker 3: Of different stuff.
Speaker 2: And so they like saved me a plate and they
Speaker 2: had like some raviolis and stuff, and so it was delicious.
Speaker 2: And then of course we did like our Christmas Eve,
Speaker 2: like gift.
Speaker 5: Exchange, had some drinks flowing.
Speaker 3: It was a long day.
Speaker 2: We got home. We actually stayed at the in laws house.
Speaker 2: We got to the in laws at like one thirty,
Speaker 2: went to bed at like two thirty because we were
Speaker 2: just talking with.
Speaker 3: A bit on Christmas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, and then uh and then woke up
Speaker 2: early the next morning. I had a big breakfast, got
Speaker 2: back to our house, which where we hosted last night,
Speaker 2: and so it was nice.
Speaker 3: It was a lot.
Speaker 5: It was fun though, first and first, first and last.
Speaker 3: From here on out, it's all about the kiddos, but
Speaker 3: it has facts, bro Yeah, no doubt about that.
Speaker 2: My mom brought like a Santa sleigh full of gifts,
Speaker 2: like I mean, just packed my dag's pickup truck and
Speaker 2: brought it in.
Speaker 3: I was like, why'd you why'd.
Speaker 5: You go so big this year?
Speaker 3: She was like, becuse this is the last one there
Speaker 3: you get.
Speaker 2: She was like, I went big for y'all because next
Speaker 2: year it ain't about y'all.
Speaker 3: Speaking of slag, did you tell everybody what Nate Newton
Speaker 3: got you?
Speaker 5: Nate Newton?
Speaker 2: On Sunday, we walked in for pregame and I walk
Speaker 2: in and there's this just a it's.
Speaker 3: Almost like a sled Like it's like a sled full.
Speaker 3: It's like a furniture mover full of boxes of diapers. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there were four.
Speaker 2: Massive boxes of diapers and he put a little note
Speaker 2: on top of it.
Speaker 3: He said, don't open until Christmas Day. I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, that's awesome. It was fun. It was great.
Speaker 3: So lots of fun over the weekend. Let's talk about
Speaker 3: some news and notes. Though.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys fall twenty two to twenty to the Dolphins,
Speaker 2: an unfortunate break for them as they.
Speaker 5: Really had chances throughout the game to win.
Speaker 2: It will dive deeper into that in a moment, but
Speaker 2: first let's hit what's happened since then?
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean Jerry's was on the radio this morning,
Speaker 6: So just with that, I would think the biggest things
Speaker 6: are the injury updates. He said that Tyron Smith got
Speaker 6: an injection last week, so I'm thinking that some type
Speaker 6: of a something in his back to kind of loosen
Speaker 6: things up, and that he was pretty hopeful that he'll
Speaker 6: be able to play Saturday against Detroit because he got
Speaker 6: that injection.
Speaker 1: Not as positive on the Jonathan Hankins front.
Speaker 6: Jonathan Hagen said in the locker room last week, I
Speaker 6: mean he thought Detroit was a good target date. He's
Speaker 6: from Detroit. He really wants to playing this game. Jerry's
Speaker 6: not ruling him out, but he's just not as certain
Speaker 6: about Jonathan Hankins. Jerry did say he thinks rookie Mazzie
Speaker 6: Smith has been coming on.
Speaker 1: We can get to that and a little bit.
Speaker 6: Later still Bury Jerry Jones and being super optimistic about
Speaker 6: the team's chances of making a deep playoff run, saying
Speaker 6: some of the same stuff he's been saying for the
Speaker 6: last few weeks of how he wouldn't trade positions with
Speaker 6: anybody else, which I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I think if you get that one seed.
Speaker 6: And the way this team's been playing at home, to
Speaker 6: have that all throughout the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think you'd rather have that.
Speaker 6: But he does say that his biggest reason of optimism
Speaker 6: is is Dak Prescott and the way he's been playing.
Speaker 6: But this one's the most interesting one that I know
Speaker 6: we'll get into a little bit just because of the
Speaker 6: fact that Mike has been so vocal about it and
Speaker 6: it's just him not drawn to holding call since October.
Speaker 6: And I'm not going to read everything that Jerry said,
Speaker 6: I'll just kind of sum it up, and it was
Speaker 6: basically that he's saying similar things to what Mike has
Speaker 6: said last week, and that's reps are making judgment calls
Speaker 6: on if a player is being held, but they weren't
Speaker 6: going to be able to make that play, then they're
Speaker 6: not calling that as much. So and what Jerry brings
Speaker 6: up and what Micah brings up is that, well, he's
Speaker 6: a free and so you shouldn't be judging him on
Speaker 6: the same thing that you're judging other edge rushers, you know.
Speaker 6: And so I think that that that's something that you know,
Speaker 6: Jerry mentioned when Steven being on the competition committee, maybe
Speaker 6: it's something they look at in the offseason. I just
Speaker 6: know the teams that have the top edge rushers all
Speaker 6: are kind of complaining about this, you know, like whether
Speaker 6: you talk about like a Miles Garrett at Aiden Hutchinson,
Speaker 6: you know, the bosas like it's just something where they
Speaker 6: don't want it to be judgment cause if a guy's
Speaker 6: being held, call it even if he is a little
Speaker 6: bit away from the play. That that for maybe another
Speaker 6: player that I won't name because I don't want to
Speaker 6: take any shots at anybody, but like for Michaeh Parsons,
Speaker 6: Michael Parsons can make that play.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: My whole thing in all this is that let me
Speaker 6: just state at the beginning that I do think that
Speaker 6: this team over the last few years complains.
Speaker 1: Way too much about the officials.
Speaker 6: Let me just start with that, so I don't want
Speaker 6: to sound like somebody that just oh blameing officials for everything,
Speaker 6: because I think I think that that's been an issue.
Speaker 3: Isaiah's talked about this.
Speaker 2: I remember you bringing this up in twenty twenty Toach
Speaker 2: McCarthy was, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there might be a little bit
Speaker 1: behind the scenes.
Speaker 6: I don't know this as a fact, but I feel
Speaker 6: like just from off the last few years that there
Speaker 6: is kind of almost a rallying cry being told to
Speaker 6: the players as in, it's us against the world, it's
Speaker 6: us against that team, the other opponent, the rafts, everything,
Speaker 6: And I don't know that I love that, So I
Speaker 6: just want that to be stated first before I say
Speaker 6: what I'm about to say. It's ridiculous to have somebody's
Speaker 6: talented as Micah Parsons to favor right now to be
Speaker 6: Defensive Player of the Year in the NFL not have
Speaker 6: a single holding call since October's That's ridiculous, Like there's
Speaker 6: just there's no way that that is possible, you know.
Speaker 6: And I'm not sitting here saying that he needs to
Speaker 6: get all the calls that let's say, like Michael Jordan
Speaker 6: or Lebron James doing their prime, but he needs to
Speaker 6: get more calls. He deserves the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 6: because of the type of player he is. And again,
Speaker 6: I covered the Dallas Cowboys, so I'm speaking about Micah.
Speaker 6: But you can say the same thing like I said
Speaker 6: Miles Garrett and Hutchinson. Some of these freak elite edge rushers,
Speaker 6: like I get what Mica is saying that they don't
Speaker 6: want you to wrect the game because they wanted to
Speaker 6: be an offensive game, you can let a couple of
Speaker 6: these go and let a guy have two three sacks,
Speaker 6: and because to be honest with you, none were called
Speaker 6: in that game and for most of that game. If
Speaker 6: you weren't a fan of the Dolphins or Cowboys, let's
Speaker 6: not act like. That game was just so entertaining and
Speaker 6: it was just so great and the NFL just did
Speaker 6: such a great job with the two top offenses in
Speaker 6: the NFL. There was plenty in that game where you
Speaker 6: were just like, if you if you respect the game
Speaker 6: and you just watch as a fan that knows football,
Speaker 6: you appreciate it because you know, those are two of
Speaker 6: the top teams the NFL going at it, so whatever
Speaker 6: the score is is another thing. But to sit there
Speaker 6: and say that we got to make it so offensive
Speaker 6: first that we can't allow freak edge rushers to do
Speaker 6: their thing, I think that that's an issue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think? I concur I believe that. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I think that might get off up like this gets
Speaker 3: you that rile though. Now I'm not one to point
Speaker 3: the finger at the referees. I hate that.
Speaker 7: But there is some facts of that, right, There's some
Speaker 7: some reality to the fact that Mike is getting held substantially,
Speaker 7: and it's unfortunate he's not getting the calls. Frustration is warranted.
Speaker 7: People are talking about how he needs to pull off
Speaker 7: on the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Like when you're.
Speaker 7: Getting held play after play after play, you're winning your
Speaker 7: assignment play after play after play, and the only reason
Speaker 7: why you're not making the plays because you're being held
Speaker 7: and it's not being called. When you finally get to
Speaker 7: the quarterback, Oh, he's gonna pay for it. He's gonna
Speaker 7: pay for it. So you know, shout out to Micael
Speaker 7: for continue to fight. This dude won his assignment. He
Speaker 7: probably scored eighty percent on his on pass rushes. I mean,
Speaker 7: his dude's all over the place of the other night,
Speaker 7: and you know, shout out to him and trying his
Speaker 7: best to keep his head cool and trying to let
Speaker 7: you know, Jerry and everybody else handle the political.
Speaker 3: Side of it.
Speaker 7: But it has to be beyond frustrating when when you're
Speaker 7: literally beating people play in and play out and you're
Speaker 7: not getting the call.
Speaker 3: That's god.
Speaker 7: I mean, it has to be absolutely frustrating. And for
Speaker 7: people who don't understand it, I just flip it out
Speaker 7: and say ceedee lamb goes out there, gets ten, gets
Speaker 7: ten ballster on his way, he only catches two because
Speaker 7: on the other eight he was being held and none
Speaker 7: of those were called p I like Erabody would be
Speaker 7: losing their mind right now. They should be the same
Speaker 7: way that they feel in regards to Micah.
Speaker 6: And I'm not sitting here saying that you know they
Speaker 6: need to call you know, oh, every time Michael Parsons play,
Speaker 6: there's going to be four or five holding calls a game.
Speaker 6: But I'm gonna tell you this right now, just one.
Speaker 6: I don't think you need to see. Now, this isn't
Speaker 6: a holding, yeah, But I don't think you need to
Speaker 6: watch that game and see anymore than the Deshaun Elliott
Speaker 6: play on the goal line against Tony Pollard to show
Speaker 6: you how one play can make such a huge difference
Speaker 6: in the entire game. So if it's just a drive,
Speaker 6: maybe one of those field goal drives is a punt, yeah,
Speaker 6: because of the holding call. And it talk about the fifty.
Speaker 2: Yard field goals, like one sack there takes them completely
Speaker 2: out of field goal rank. I like when you brought
Speaker 2: up about you have to look at the player at
Speaker 2: the same time, And I mean these officials.
Speaker 3: They study as much as anybody.
Speaker 2: I mean, they know the rule book, they know the players,
Speaker 2: they know the teams, The teams know the officials. At
Speaker 2: the same time, there's ways that you can still have
Speaker 2: the back of the mind and say that's Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: He can make that play as opposed to this other
Speaker 2: guy that that's still an NFL player, but there's no
Speaker 2: way he's getting this, but Michah Parsons can get there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're very true, but I don't think that should
Speaker 7: ever be taken into an account on a decision to
Speaker 7: make of a throw flag or not. If it's a foul,
Speaker 7: it's a foul, right, Yeah, I mean, like take the
Speaker 7: player out of it. You should be able to you
Speaker 7: should be able to have to go blind folded with
Speaker 7: you know, in terms of the player, in terms of number,
Speaker 7: and just say okay, that's a holding call.
Speaker 3: So we need to change the mindset.
Speaker 7: Yeah, across the board, because a lot of times when
Speaker 7: MICA's being held it's not even him coming from the outside,
Speaker 7: it's him coming from the intense and so like he's
Speaker 7: beating centers, he's beating guards, and these guys don't have
Speaker 7: the lateral agility to be able to keep up with him,
Speaker 7: so all they can do is hold. So he's literally
Speaker 7: running through arms to try to get to quarterbacks and
Speaker 7: it's blatant. You know, it'd be one thing it was like,
Speaker 7: I don't know, but these are blatant holds. So I
Speaker 7: mean he has a legitimate case. I hate the fact
Speaker 7: that this is a conversation, but they do have to
Speaker 7: make some alterations. And to your point, it's not just Micah,
Speaker 7: but Micah is probably actually, I'll say it, Micah is
Speaker 7: the most explosive defensive player in the NFL, and it's
Speaker 7: very difficult to stay in front of him, especially when
Speaker 7: dan Quinn's literally drawing up man on man matchups for him.
Speaker 6: Do you think, with them not having drawn any holding
Speaker 6: calls since October, you think composing teams like it's a
Speaker 6: coaching point where it's like, hey, the stud's a freak.
Speaker 6: If he beats you grab them a little bit. They're
Speaker 6: not calling it, So just grab him a little bit
Speaker 6: if you have to. We know that you're not gonna
Speaker 6: be able to stand.
Speaker 7: Well, that's what coaches are saying anyway, right, if he's beating,
Speaker 7: you like grabbing him, we rather have a holding call
Speaker 7: than him hitting our quarterback.
Speaker 3: You see how hard to hit Tua. Yeah, like Tua's
Speaker 3: soul feels that today.
Speaker 2: Look at last night against the Ravens and the forty
Speaker 2: nine Ers, Trent Williams gets out, leaves the game.
Speaker 5: In the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: The offensive line for the forty nine Ers all of
Speaker 2: a sudden struggling. A couple of plays later, brock Perty
Speaker 2: gets hit and he's out of the game.
Speaker 3: And then Sam Darnold has to.
Speaker 7: You rather hold than give up the same thing on
Speaker 7: a on a touchdown, right, if you're a defensive back
Speaker 7: and you get beats, like, grab this joke, grab him.
Speaker 3: There's nobody if you don't have any over the.
Speaker 7: Top hill, grab this joker and hopefully don't get the flag,
Speaker 7: but if you do, we're okay with that because it's
Speaker 7: not a touchdown.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just crazy.
Speaker 6: How the value of Lane Johnson, Trent Williams, Tyron Smith
Speaker 6: on these downe the three top teams the NFC, and
Speaker 6: obviously people that follow the NFL know they're good players,
Speaker 6: but their value is probably people don't respect it as
Speaker 6: much as they probably should, just how important they are
Speaker 6: to the rest of the team and Obviously we'll get into,
Speaker 6: you know, not having Tyrant in the game. But yeah,
Speaker 6: that was it from Jerry, you know, not he was
Speaker 6: not firing Brimstone ripping anybody. This is their first time
Speaker 6: that they've lost two games in a row since Thanksgiving
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. So I tuned in like I always do,
Speaker 6: but I did not expect him to be just ripping
Speaker 6: people and things like that. It's not really his style
Speaker 6: when it's late in the season like this. So but yeah,
Speaker 6: those are probably highlights from it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and before we get into the game itself. In
Speaker 3: terms of the loss, it.
Speaker 2: Does affect playoff positioning, but not as much as any
Speaker 2: other loss would because this was to an AFC team.
Speaker 2: It does not affect any of the conference tiebreaker, the
Speaker 2: divisional tiebreaker, and it does not affect the common opponent
Speaker 2: time breaker because if Philly were to lose again anyways,
Speaker 2: they would get that game back because Philly did beat Miami,
Speaker 2: so right now they own that tiebreaker.
Speaker 5: But if they lose one of those.
Speaker 2: Other games, that means either both teams lost to Arizona
Speaker 2: or they lost to New York and Dallas didn't, so
Speaker 2: they would regain that tiebreaker again.
Speaker 3: They still need.
Speaker 5: Philly to lose.
Speaker 3: That's ultimately what it comes down to.
Speaker 2: You can't win the division now by winning out and
Speaker 2: hopefully having the strength of victory, so it takes the
Speaker 2: strength of victory possibility away.
Speaker 5: It also pretty much.
Speaker 2: Negates you from the top seed in the NFC as well,
Speaker 2: even with San Francisco losing last night, because you lose
Speaker 2: a week to try and catch up to San Francisco,
Speaker 2: so that's out of the question as well. The division
Speaker 2: still intact, the two seed still intact, because you would
Speaker 2: defeat the Lions this week in order to get there.
Speaker 2: So I mean, if you win your final two games,
Speaker 2: you need the same result in order to win the division.
Speaker 2: So it doesn't change a whole lot other than some
Speaker 2: of those little minuscule things into terms of the playoffs
Speaker 2: seating as well. All right, when we come back here
Speaker 2: on Talking Cowboys, let's dive into the offensive side of
Speaker 2: the ball. Like John said, Tyron Smith, the value is there.
Speaker 2: How did they look up front? How did Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: look in the twenty two to twenty loss to Miami
Speaker 2: on Sunday more Talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 5: Did you get him in this morning?
Speaker 3: You know I did, Kyle?
Speaker 5: Did you get him in on Christmas morning?
Speaker 3: I sure did not? Oh no, I know.
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Speaker 7: I'm well, my wife, you made like a bunch of
Speaker 7: cinner rolls and stuff, so I have some working out
Speaker 7: to do.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you did cinnamon rolls, cinnamon rolls in.
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Speaker 3: I love it.
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Speaker 7: We're driving to my facility so my kids could test
Speaker 7: out that machine. And somebody had their car stopped working,
Speaker 7: so I got out and helped push their car.
Speaker 3: So I got I burned some galleries. They counts. Yeah,
Speaker 3: did they there was a whole vehicle now here. Look,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go push this car. Yeah, it was a
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Speaker 7: Yes, well my wife was actually my wife was like
Speaker 7: stop the car. I'm hopping out. I'm like, actually I'll
Speaker 7: get out. You stay, you stay right here, I'll go
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Speaker 3: It like the crowded kid popped the glud ude? My wife,
Speaker 3: she always was be number one. I'm like, just.
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Speaker 3: Did they immediately like when they saw you get out
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Speaker 3: They thought I was Jesse. Holly, ah, Jess, it's a black.
Speaker 2: It is really funny how many times we'll go out
Speaker 2: to the stadium, will be like about to do our
Speaker 2: pregame show, and.
Speaker 3: They'll be like Jesse, Jesse, Like, no, as Isaiah, Guy, Isaiah,
Speaker 3: that's wrong.
Speaker 1: It happens a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh, it happens a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, asked Jesse too, because it happens both ways too.
Speaker 2: Jesse gets called Isaiah's.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's not great.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's get into this matchup twenty two
Speaker 2: twenty for the Dallas Cowboys. If you have a text
Speaker 2: question or you want to you want to be a
Speaker 2: part of the show eight one seven, two nine zero
Speaker 2: three two nine eight.
Speaker 3: We've got the text lines open right now. We'll answer
Speaker 3: some of those questions.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to start on the offensive side of
Speaker 2: the football. The offensive line certainly had their struggles to
Speaker 2: Madoga had left tackle Tyron Smith out with the back injury,
Speaker 2: and it didn't look great, Isaiah.
Speaker 3: When you looked at how the.
Speaker 2: Game progressed behind the offensive line, was it enough to
Speaker 2: build confidence even if Tyron Smith's not available moving forward?
Speaker 3: I guess it depends on the opponent. That defensive line
Speaker 3: is solid.
Speaker 7: Now, I mean, you can't look at that defensive line
Speaker 7: and think that they're the same that you're going to
Speaker 7: face week in the week out. Now, teams that you're
Speaker 7: going to play facing the playoffs, yeah, the most likely
Speaker 7: they'll have d line similar. But that's the third best,
Speaker 7: statistically speaking, best defensive line in the game of football
Speaker 7: in terms of pressure rate. Those guys are only two
Speaker 7: notches down from Dallas, and we know how much Dallas
Speaker 7: puts a heat on the opponent. So they struggled, and
Speaker 7: they mean collectively, they struggled. You know, Tyrone's presence was
Speaker 7: missed dearly. You know, if we talked about it going
Speaker 7: into the week, if Tyron wasn't going to be able
Speaker 7: to play, Bradley Chubbs is going to be, you know,
Speaker 7: lacing up his shoes.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I think I said on the pregame show, he probably
Speaker 7: zipped tied him so he didn't have the time in
Speaker 7: the middle of the game.
Speaker 3: He just he was excited and he had a day.
Speaker 3: He had a field day.
Speaker 7: And that's the real expectation though, I mean that's to
Speaker 7: ask Trumanny Doga to stop Bradley Chubb playing a playout
Speaker 7: is an unrealistic expectation. It's just it's two different levels
Speaker 7: of talent. That's no knock on him, It's just some
Speaker 7: players are better than others, and he is substantially beneath
Speaker 7: Bradley Chubb and that whole entire defensive line Wilkins. Wilkins
Speaker 7: causes havoc. I mean, there were those guys wore running
Speaker 7: around now they are office A line fought, but Dak
Speaker 7: was fighting for his life literally play in and play out,
Speaker 7: and Tool was fighting for his life on the flip side. Right,
Speaker 7: but like Dak was fighting for his life. So shout
Speaker 7: out to Dak for extending plays and making it hard
Speaker 7: on them to get him down. But it was a
Speaker 7: battle up front, man, And like you said, you missed,
Speaker 7: you missed a big boy on the left side.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Chubb was pretty vocal running to the locker room
Speaker 6: after the game. It was funny because you know, you
Speaker 6: get so focused on covering the team that you know
Speaker 6: that you cover that sometimes you forget about the some
Speaker 6: of the storylines for the other teams. And he was
Speaker 6: just running in the locker room yelling about because I
Speaker 6: was the only Cowboys report of there. There were a
Speaker 6: couple of other people that cover the Dolphins, but you
Speaker 6: got to kind of walk by their locker room to
Speaker 6: get to the Cowboys. I'm like, oh, let me just
Speaker 6: stop here and see them running or whatever. Yeah, and
Speaker 6: he was yelling about how I thought.
Speaker 3: He said we couldn't beat a good team.
Speaker 1: None of you thought we could be a good team.
Speaker 1: Know what you're gonna say now write that in your
Speaker 1: little articles.
Speaker 6: I'm just like, I'm not gonna write that, but okay,
Speaker 6: this is interesting to see this. Also, you had a
Speaker 6: good game, but it also helps if maybe somebody blocks
Speaker 6: you and they don't just let you run free. But anyway,
Speaker 6: to your point, though, I think he was very happy
Speaker 6: about those opportunities. Man, I hate to just give you
Speaker 6: such a blanket statement, but I don't see any way
Speaker 6: this team makes a deep playoff run if they're missing
Speaker 6: any of those starting that best five offensive line, any
Speaker 6: of them. Obviously, Tyron is ridiculously important left tackle. You know,
Speaker 6: when they've been together, he's been playing great, him and
Speaker 6: Tyler together. But I think any of those starting five,
Speaker 6: there's just such a drop off that I might be
Speaker 6: you might be able to go to you know, Tampa
Speaker 6: or New Orleans or Atlanta or something like that, but
Speaker 6: you're not gonna beat like a San Francisco or Detroit
Speaker 6: or Philadelphia on the road without one of those unless
Speaker 6: there are those teams are decimated by injuries, which is
Speaker 6: obviously a possibility. But sure if if they're relatively healthy,
Speaker 6: and the Cowboys look like they'll be relatively healthy, they
Speaker 6: need that that that best five. There's just too much
Speaker 6: of a drop off to whoever the person is. You know,
Speaker 6: people talk about, oh, maybe you need to make Chiuma
Speaker 6: be the left guard and then Tyler Smith, the left tackle.
Speaker 6: I still think there would have been issues there too.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? For people that say
Speaker 1: that anyway, By.
Speaker 7: The way, no, it's too late Okay, I would have
Speaker 7: been in agreeance with that early on.
Speaker 3: It's too late now.
Speaker 2: So if you had practice reps, I mean you're talking
Speaker 2: about two practices a week and it's really more like
Speaker 2: one and a half.
Speaker 3: This is probably a loaded question, but I want to
Speaker 3: ask it anyway.
Speaker 7: Load up of those starters, and based upon who backs
Speaker 7: them up, who would you rather not have if you
Speaker 7: had to pick somebody to not play, so like, based
Speaker 7: upon their backups.
Speaker 5: If God came down himself and said, you choose one
Speaker 5: guy to miss the rest of the season, yep, based
Speaker 5: upon their backup.
Speaker 3: I hate that, but.
Speaker 6: I gotta I'm probably leaning Terrence Steele. And the only
Speaker 6: reason I say it is because I don't know what
Speaker 6: they got snapping the ball.
Speaker 1: If they don't, they just don't.
Speaker 6: There has not been really anybody that you trust that
Speaker 6: backup center for a while.
Speaker 3: So that's center. Definitely can't afford to center.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Tyler right guard?
Speaker 6: My guards, you know, if I think if I'm senting
Speaker 6: my guards are Tyler Smith and Zach Martin.
Speaker 3: I so who comes in for Tyler?
Speaker 7: I mean if it comes there for Terrence, probably Trumadoga,
Speaker 7: right tax. So that's saying this is based upon this
Speaker 7: is based upon who feels in for them. Who do
Speaker 7: you feel most confident with if somebody had to miss?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Probably Yeah, But I mean you're talking about taking away
Speaker 2: Terrence Steele as opposed to taking away Tyron Smith. And
Speaker 2: if I can have Tyron Smith healthy all the way through,
Speaker 2: I'm taking it because you.
Speaker 7: Can see so Dak's front side is even you rather
Speaker 7: have where Deck's front side.
Speaker 6: There's been so many communication issues on the road that
Speaker 6: concerned me that to move your center out I just
Speaker 6: think leads to so many more of those.
Speaker 1: You know, TJ.
Speaker 3: Bass hasn't given you any confidence that right guard.
Speaker 7: He's not Zach Martin. I'm nobody's any of the starters. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm saying based upon your confidence in the backup.
Speaker 6: Again, I think Zach Martin's a big part of that's
Speaker 6: just his play, but his but the communications stuff up.
Speaker 3: There that you know, what you get out of TJ. Bass. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not putting them in right, I'm not taking Zach
Speaker 3: Zach Martin, get it, it's just sucky could question.
Speaker 7: However, the other thing about basically based upon why I
Speaker 7: know about TJ. Bass, I would feel most confident with TJ.
Speaker 7: Bass feeling in for Zach Martin than I would for
Speaker 7: any of the other positions.
Speaker 6: Still going with Terren Steele. I'm still going with Terren Steele.
Speaker 6: And we're in the playoffs now, TJ. Bass, you can
Speaker 6: play right guard. I'm putting Zach out to right tackle again.
Speaker 6: This a this is This isn't Week one. This is playoffs.
Speaker 3: I like you. I like your thinking, sir. That's the
Speaker 3: second hand. I mean, last heard him.
Speaker 1: I understand it. But but this is he did a
Speaker 1: good job. This is the end of the end of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 6: You got a guy like Zach Martin that I mean,
Speaker 6: how many more years does he have left? And in
Speaker 6: terms of I think he has a lot left in
Speaker 6: terms of playing football, not a lot, but I mean
Speaker 6: he's got years left. But how many chances do you
Speaker 6: have have to have this? Because here's my thing, Like,
Speaker 6: I don't just look at the Cowboys, I'm looking at
Speaker 6: all of the NFL. There was a little conversation the
Speaker 6: press box after between me and another reporter about that
Speaker 6: who took issue with Mike McCarthy calling that a juggernaut game.
Speaker 6: I go, it is a juggernaut game. Look across the
Speaker 6: rest of the NFL and tell me outside of obviously
Speaker 6: Niners Ravens, Like, what would be a matchup that you'd
Speaker 6: be like, Oh, that's just way bigger than that. Those
Speaker 6: are two of the best teams, your chiefs that everybody
Speaker 6: wants to let your go.
Speaker 1: To answer all the time.
Speaker 6: They're not that right now, you know, the the Bengals
Speaker 6: not having Joe Burrow like those those go to right now.
Speaker 6: So it's like, well, okay, it's you know, you got
Speaker 6: like the Ravens, the Bills, the Dolphins are right there
Speaker 6: with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know.
Speaker 1: And then you go over to the NFC like what.
Speaker 6: I didn't want to cut you off before the first
Speaker 6: segment ended, but when you brought up the whole thing
Speaker 6: about the Philadelphia thing a month ago, I'd say, this,
Speaker 6: this division's done. You don't even need to play the games.
Speaker 6: I watched them play the last few weeks and you're
Speaker 6: just like, I mean, no, they.
Speaker 1: Could lose one of these games.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: So because of that, there just isn't it. That was
Speaker 6: a juggernaut game. Those are two of the best six
Speaker 6: seven teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3: YEP, I completely agree.
Speaker 5: And you look at there's six or seven contenders right now,
Speaker 5: and Dallas is right on the borderline of being that.
Speaker 2: I mean, Miami's there, Baltimore is definitely there. I think
Speaker 2: if there was an AFC pick for me to win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl right now, it would be the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 6: They looked really good. Yeah, sorry to go off on that.
Speaker 6: I know we're talking Zach Martin.
Speaker 3: I think it's warranted.
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo, if they keep moving in the right direction,
Speaker 2: they can maybe reinsert themselves back into that conversation, but
Speaker 2: are not there yet. Cleveland not there yet. Nobody in
Speaker 2: the South, nobody in the AFC West. Then you go
Speaker 2: to the NFC East. Philadelphia certainly can get back to that,
Speaker 2: but they're not playing well.
Speaker 3: Dallas has lost two straight.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's still ways that they can get back
Speaker 2: into that conversation. Detroit's in that conversation, and then San
Speaker 2: Francisco that's it. I mean, the Rams are playing well,
Speaker 2: they can maybe get back up there, but they're not
Speaker 2: there yet. There are only six or seven teams that
Speaker 2: you were comp it in that could make a run
Speaker 2: if they play their best football, and I think Dallas
Speaker 2: if they play their best football, which includes their offensive
Speaker 2: line being healthy, they can make a run.
Speaker 6: If they made if they made a deep playoff run
Speaker 6: that included them winning on the road, there'd be a
Speaker 6: lot about talking. We would look back and talk about
Speaker 6: the Buffalo game in the Miami game and how it
Speaker 6: did get them. Not the Buffalo game because it was
Speaker 6: such a blowout, but this Miami game about going on
Speaker 6: the road and playing a tough opponent like that. Now,
Speaker 6: of course they got to go and win those games
Speaker 6: in the playoffs for that Dad, but I think we
Speaker 6: would look back on, Man, that was a tough stretch.
Speaker 6: You have to go to Buffalo with the well as
Speaker 6: well they as they were playing, and then at Miami
Speaker 6: uh as well. So So yeah'm moving Zach Martin the
Speaker 6: right tagle.
Speaker 3: That's hysterio.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I like it.
Speaker 2: I think it's good because I'm not moving Zach Martin
Speaker 2: out of the rotation at all.
Speaker 3: That's not happening.
Speaker 2: Just before we move on, I feel like there was
Speaker 2: a show back in Oxnar and California that was talking
Speaker 2: about if if one of those starting five guys goes down, then.
Speaker 3: That's kind of a problem. I forgot which show was Talk.
Speaker 2: Talk, Talking Talking Boys, Talking Talk, Talking Boy. Dak Prescott,
Speaker 2: how did you feel like he played against Miami John
Speaker 2: whenever you look at his stat line in the way
Speaker 2: that he played twenty of thirty two, two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty three yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions. Played well, but
Speaker 2: it goes back to what we were just talking about.
Speaker 2: He was under pressure quite a bit.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought he played like an MVP at the
Speaker 6: beginning of the game and at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: But there were definitely there.
Speaker 6: I mean, there were some misses on some things that
Speaker 6: when you watch the game over again, especially from different
Speaker 6: camera angles, where you're like, yeah, well, you know, it's
Speaker 6: tough to make that read when you know that you
Speaker 6: don't have that much time because you're not being protected
Speaker 6: like you normally are. If they had their normal offensive
Speaker 6: lineup there, I just think it's a different game. They're
Speaker 6: just there were guys open. You know, I'm a big
Speaker 6: fource feed my star player gets, so I didn't like
Speaker 6: I didn't like going away from CD there as much
Speaker 6: in the second and third where I don't know this
Speaker 6: to be true. This is just me taking an outside
Speaker 6: look on things, and I'm not saying that there's no
Speaker 6: any fact that it's just me just talking.
Speaker 1: Dak is such a good dude that part.
Speaker 6: Of me wonders if he's like, no, I got to
Speaker 6: get more guys involved, as opposed to no, I'm just going.
Speaker 1: Down the field.
Speaker 6: It's me and CD all all game whatever like that.
Speaker 6: I just feel like he tries to get other people.
Speaker 6: There's more so than maybe some other players would.
Speaker 2: Is that ever a thought process from a quarterback standpoint, Yes,
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 1: I know it sounds stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's stupid. Gets a legitimate question.
Speaker 1: I've never seen.
Speaker 6: Well, I shouldn't say never, because there probably is a
Speaker 6: game to do, but I almost never see a game
Speaker 6: where it just like you just know, hey, I'm just
Speaker 6: going to these one or two guys like he will.
Speaker 6: He has so much trust and even guys that like
Speaker 6: when we're watching the yeah, exactly, we got when we're
Speaker 6: watching the game, like he's got so much trust and
Speaker 6: so many players that there's plays that he'll throw.
Speaker 1: To some guys.
Speaker 6: I just like, man, I can't believe he would trust
Speaker 6: him in that situation, but he trusts everyone that's out there.
Speaker 3: Tobert went up and made up he did, he did.
Speaker 7: I have a question. It's not Dak related. Okay, well,
Speaker 7: I wanted to answer that last question, Dak. I think
Speaker 7: Dak fought his tail off. Yeah, yeah, this game is
Speaker 7: nowhere near as close if Deck doesn't do Deck things.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he kept you in the game. He's been
Speaker 3: keeping you in a game.
Speaker 2: That drive at the end of the game, if Dallas
Speaker 2: gets a defensive stop there and they win it twenty
Speaker 2: to nineteen, I think that might be as that could
Speaker 2: be an MVP moment.
Speaker 3: It really could have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, he still would have had to play lights
Speaker 2: out the last two weeks of the season.
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. There was a long way to go.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's winning.
Speaker 2: So he could have gone back and looked at that
Speaker 2: that drive specifically where he kept them alive.
Speaker 3: That could have been his MVP moment. It's not anymore.
Speaker 3: That's that's it.
Speaker 1: And they throw to Cooks.
Speaker 6: I mean it was a great catch by Cooks, you
Speaker 6: don't get me wrong, But the throw with like Rick
Speaker 6: Ramsey in position and just the fact what had happened
Speaker 6: right before that that had everything written on like, oh,
Speaker 6: they just blew this drive the way they get on
Speaker 6: the one yard line, half yard line and then run
Speaker 6: that instead of just running the ball, they try and
Speaker 6: roll him out and then he takes that sack.
Speaker 1: You're just do you enough of these games?
Speaker 3: Was like, h here we go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't Yeah, but he overcame that. Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3: What was your question?
Speaker 7: Why has Tony power only averaged thirteen touches a game?
Speaker 6: Again, I don't know this to be a fact, but
Speaker 6: since we're just throwing stuff out there, I wonder if
Speaker 6: he's all the way back to the Tony Pollard he
Speaker 6: was before. I think that there's a little bit And
Speaker 6: even if they were, I just keep going back to
Speaker 6: this thing. Last year of that Skip Pete said about
Speaker 6: how it was such a good compliment between Zeke and
Speaker 6: Tony because Tony's at his best when you know, he
Speaker 6: is interesto, he's getting a little bit more rest, you know,
Speaker 6: because then when he gets in there, he's got a
Speaker 6: chance to turn those like maybe a five six year
Speaker 6: gain into fifteen twenty and stuff like that. And so
Speaker 6: I'm wondering if that they're trying to keep him fresh
Speaker 6: during the games for those home run type abilities. You know, Like,
Speaker 6: I think he's closer to where he was last year,
Speaker 6: but I don't think that he's been that way all
Speaker 6: season long in terms of being one hundred percent back
Speaker 6: from that, you know, the broken leg, ankle injury, the
Speaker 6: drop tackle one in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean, do you think the running games working at
Speaker 6: a point where you want to see more touches?
Speaker 1: Twelve carries three point two yards per carry.
Speaker 7: He's averaging thirteen, and that's heavily weighted in a front
Speaker 7: carries thirteen touches. Thirteen touches because on the front half
Speaker 7: of the season there was a couple of games where
Speaker 7: he had twenty plus touches. That's really you know, kind
Speaker 7: of boostings right now. But he's I mean every postgame
Speaker 7: it seemingly is like twelve touches, eleven touches, Yeah, thirteen
Speaker 7: touches and taking the ball. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 7: everybody's looking at the hundred liftkey play right now, and
Speaker 7: it should have never got there, correct, because Tony Polers
Speaker 7: should have scored.
Speaker 3: Let's put that out there right now, Okay, so.
Speaker 2: I'd love to address that real quick. Because you watched
Speaker 2: the film, you can you can go back and look
Speaker 2: at it.
Speaker 5: There's a there's a freeze point in that All twenty
Speaker 5: two where it looks like a walking touch How is
Speaker 5: it not a touchdown?
Speaker 3: Like with Tony Pollard.
Speaker 5: Tony Pollard, I.
Speaker 2: Know there's a linebacker that's scraping over the top and
Speaker 2: there's a there's he comes up and he lays a hit,
Speaker 2: and good play from him.
Speaker 5: But it was a weak effort.
Speaker 3: It really was.
Speaker 2: It was weak and Tony Pollard, as much as we
Speaker 2: want to see more of him, and I agree, I
Speaker 2: think he needs more touches to get into a rhythm to.
Speaker 3: A certain there's accountability factor there.
Speaker 2: But we've been saying, I mean, we are in week
Speaker 2: seventeen and we're saying, well, we've seen glimpses of it.
Speaker 2: It looks like that's the old Tony Pollard. He's done nothing,
Speaker 2: nothing to show me at this point that he is
Speaker 2: the old Tony Polloin one one hundred yard game this year,
Speaker 2: I'm surprised there's even been one.
Speaker 3: One one it was Cardinals. Oh yeah, that's probably why
Speaker 3: I forgot about it. Other than that the last.
Speaker 7: We can go back going in reverse thirty eight yards,
Speaker 7: fifty two yards, fifty nine yards, sixty eight, seventy nine,
Speaker 7: sixty one, fifty five, fifty one, fifty three, thirty twenty nine,
Speaker 7: and I can keep going.
Speaker 5: I've been the biggest.
Speaker 3: Tony Pollard supporter throughout his time here.
Speaker 5: I've been big onto Tony Pollard when he was having
Speaker 5: his success. I say, get him the rocket, him the rocket,
Speaker 5: him a rock. Even now, I still think he's there,
Speaker 5: but he has done nothing to show confidence or build
Speaker 5: my confidence in what Tony Pollard can do.
Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if they're saying the same. Oh well,
Speaker 3: I mean they have the hole.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean you gave nine carries to Dak
Speaker 6: No No No to Dak Ceedee Lamb Cavante, Turpin and
Speaker 6: Brandon Cooks and two and they and they ran the
Speaker 6: ball pretty well out of those nine carries, I got
Speaker 6: a little over fifty sixty yards.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So it was just apparent to me early on when
Speaker 6: they were some of the stuff they were doing the
Speaker 6: run game, they were like, we're not gonna be able
Speaker 6: to get this done with our normal run game.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to do some some other.
Speaker 6: Things because we have to run the football, but we
Speaker 6: can't get it done doing the traditional running style. Let
Speaker 6: me ask let me ask this though, do you think
Speaker 6: that is the whole season and even if you did
Speaker 6: have Tyron Smith it would be the same way. Or
Speaker 6: do you think because Tyrant's Smith wasn't out there, they
Speaker 6: went away from Tony a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think that head of impact is this is the
Speaker 1: whole year.
Speaker 5: This is the entire year.
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 7: I'm every post game, you know, I sit up there
Speaker 7: and say, very Chargy fils.
Speaker 5: During the game, if anything, to MYDOGA is better in
Speaker 5: the run game run blocking than he is pass blocking,
Speaker 5: So you would want to run the ball more to
Speaker 5: give Tony Pollard some of those such Yes.
Speaker 3: I mean this is this is crazy.
Speaker 7: Just to go t everybody type in Tony polar stat
Speaker 7: to look at every game, it's just twelve, twelve, eleven, thirteen, eleven,
Speaker 7: nine eight, and then you have a couple of those
Speaker 7: games early on it was twenty five, twenty three in
Speaker 7: twenty at three games this year where he had over
Speaker 7: twenty touches or more, that's it.
Speaker 2: I just really I hope we see the Tony Pollard
Speaker 2: of old because he's so fun man.
Speaker 7: Like, that's the thing is I feel bad for the
Speaker 7: last I feel.
Speaker 2: Bad for Cowboys fans because Tony Pollard as the number
Speaker 2: one back, as Tony Pollard was in the past couple
Speaker 2: of years, Like he finally gets that opportunity this year.
Speaker 5: I thought he had a chance.
Speaker 2: To explode and just be that dude and he and
Speaker 2: he hasn't. He's been serviceable, he's been decent. He's done
Speaker 2: some things what right. He hasn't done some things right
Speaker 2: on the other end. But I think we're we're at
Speaker 2: the moment we're not seeing that, and I don't know
Speaker 2: if it'll ever come.
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, man, between this and the Zeke and
Speaker 6: this team's just drafting running backs from now on, Like
Speaker 6: it's such a young man's game.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: That sucks.
Speaker 7: But isn't it crazy how how Tony Powler is barely
Speaker 7: getting any touches, but yet Zeke is running all over
Speaker 7: the place. Yeah yeahs to him like a Bill cow Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: When I mean drafting running backs, I don't mean like
Speaker 6: top five pick, first roundrunning back. I mean drafting guys
Speaker 6: that you know, like Tony third, fourth round.
Speaker 3: Ricot free agent. Yeah, yeah, you've.
Speaker 6: Got such a it's such a physical you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a young man's game. I don't see them.
Speaker 2: But before we move on from a from a running
Speaker 2: game com station, have you lost trust in Hunter Lipkey?
Speaker 1: No? No, I mean yeah, that play that play.
Speaker 6: Obviously you can't have that happen in that game and
Speaker 6: that that can cost you. But I just think I
Speaker 6: don't know if it's just him individually as the player,
Speaker 6: or it's the fact of I don't think that they
Speaker 6: can run the ball effectively against good teams traditionally, and
Speaker 6: so I like having that mixed in there, because just
Speaker 6: doing it the old fashioned way that they had been
Speaker 6: done doing it in the past before this year, I
Speaker 6: didn't that's not getting it done anymore. So I think
Speaker 6: that you need him uh involved, and you need him
Speaker 6: to be a threat to where teams think that he
Speaker 6: could potentially get the ball, you know. Yeah, obviously he'd
Speaker 6: love to have that playback. That's terrible on the goal line.
Speaker 6: But no, I haven't.
Speaker 3: I agree. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the next seat, that's true.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's where I have to I have to. I'm
Speaker 2: totally going to ask him about it to because I'm.
Speaker 3: Right, right right, I agree.
Speaker 2: I don't think you should lose trust in him. It
Speaker 2: was just it was a bad play. It really was.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Let's switch the ball, Let's switch to the defensive side.
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Speaker 2: Back with John Machoda, Isaiah's stand back Chris Beam in
Speaker 2: the back of Kyle Yeoman's Nick Harris out today, but
Speaker 2: he is listening, and he sent in a text to
Speaker 2: answer Isaiah's question. If we were playing unfortunate circumstances and
Speaker 2: you had to remove somebody from the offensive line for
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, who would you be more
Speaker 2: confident in filling in?
Speaker 5: He said, brock Hoffman isn't.
Speaker 2: Tyler Biattish, but he feels like he could hold his
Speaker 2: own in the interior. I think that's the only one
Speaker 2: that could plug in and be okay up front with
Speaker 2: So that's Nick Harris's.
Speaker 6: Vote, Nick, We're moving Zach Martin to right tackle. Okay,
Speaker 6: still already.
Speaker 3: Figured it out. We've already done it.
Speaker 2: By the way, Isaiah wasn't the only one that was
Speaker 2: talking about having TJ Bass as a confident backup. There
Speaker 2: are multiple text messages on our text line, by the way,
Speaker 2: A one to seven two nine zero three two nine eight,
Speaker 2: multiple text messages that say, if if you've got to
Speaker 2: remove somebody, at least have TJ Bass go in. So
Speaker 2: moving Tyler her excuse me, moving Zach out the right
Speaker 2: tackle and keeping TJ Bass in there. I mean, I
Speaker 2: think we figured it out.
Speaker 1: Because he solved it all.
Speaker 3: I think we've done next.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Terrence Steele, I don't know what happened to you,
Speaker 2: but that's just it seems like something happened.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 5: Let's flip to the defensive side of things.
Speaker 2: Defense only allowing one offensive touchdown, but in between the twenties,
Speaker 2: they gave up plenty of yardage.
Speaker 5: Miami was able to move the ball pretty much it
Speaker 5: will until they got inside the thirty the twenty, and
Speaker 5: then they seemingly pit or pattered out and had to
Speaker 5: settle for five field goals. They hit all five of them.
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts John on the defense and how
Speaker 2: they performed on Sunday.
Speaker 6: I thought about Isaiah on that fifty hour bomb to
Speaker 6: Jalen Waddle early in the game. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 6: here we goes could be going on all day.
Speaker 1: This might be bad.
Speaker 3: It should have been a touchdown before that.
Speaker 7: In reality, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: So I was the way the game started, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 6: this is not gonna be good for the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 6: at all. But yeah, they tightened up, and I will
Speaker 6: say that I was. I expected them to play better
Speaker 6: defensively than they did against Buffalo in terms of the
Speaker 6: mistackles things like that. But in no way did I
Speaker 6: ever think they were holding Miami to twenty two points
Speaker 6: and really one touchdown. And I don't think Miami was
Speaker 6: thinking that. You can tell by McDaniel's decision making early
Speaker 6: on where he didn't go for the field goal and
Speaker 6: went for it.
Speaker 1: I think it was like fourth and five too. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even a real close.
Speaker 6: Fourth down, And I think it's because everybody felt like, oh,
Speaker 6: this game's going in the thirties. You know you're gonna
Speaker 6: need touch now. If you can't settle for field goals.
Speaker 6: But the way the game kind of evolved was the
Speaker 6: way how the Cowboys defense was playing. You saw McDaniel
Speaker 6: be like, all right, we'll take these field goals now,
Speaker 6: of course, I mean their kicker, I mean fifty two
Speaker 6: to fifty four to fifty seven outside.
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was impressive.
Speaker 6: So that's a little bit more to Lena, But I
Speaker 6: mean that was the main thing I wrote about off
Speaker 6: of the game was I was like, if they're going
Speaker 6: to make a deep playoff run, the defense has to
Speaker 6: play like this every time against a really good team.
Speaker 6: And did they let up in the end. Yeah, they
Speaker 6: needed to be better on that final drive, But overall,
Speaker 6: I thought they played. I thought it was a winning effort.
Speaker 6: I thought they played good enough for them to win
Speaker 6: that game.
Speaker 2: To twenty four to thirty seven, two hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: three yards a touchdown, And the most impressive stat for
Speaker 2: me is the fact that they went from two sixty
Speaker 2: six against the Buffalo Bills rushing yards allowed to just
Speaker 2: ninety one against a really good rushing attack of the
Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 6: So it's fascinating to watch how quick he gets the
Speaker 6: ball out and like all the different movement that they
Speaker 6: do on the line to get guys open and things
Speaker 6: like that, And I mean, in a way, it's it.
Speaker 6: I want to see it against good teams in the
Speaker 6: playoffs to see if this thing can hold up. But
Speaker 6: there is a part where you're like, man, if teams
Speaker 6: can do that, maybe you don't need the greatest offensive
Speaker 6: line because you're just moving it so quick and they're
Speaker 6: not calling holds against Mike Persas.
Speaker 3: So it is. It was.
Speaker 6: It was fun to watch that to see how quick, like,
Speaker 6: you know, they were doing a lot of stuff, you know,
Speaker 6: at the Lions crimination.
Speaker 3: And I really liked the physicality that Dallas boy.
Speaker 2: And they brought at all four quarters, which is exactly
Speaker 2: what you did not do against Buffalo, and you needed
Speaker 2: to do if you're going to build some confidence going
Speaker 2: into the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Tank Lawrence DeMarcus Lawrence was phenomenal. He's talking like.
Speaker 5: One of the best games of his career.
Speaker 2: He's had some really good games taking on three people
Speaker 2: at a time, and it's not something that's going to
Speaker 2: show up in the box score. Everybody at home is
Speaker 2: probably gonna say, oh my gosh, you only had two
Speaker 2: combined tackles and he didn't have a sack or a
Speaker 2: tackle for loss.
Speaker 3: He was effective impact baby.
Speaker 5: And you could see the the energy he brought, the
Speaker 5: tackling ability that that rallied around him. I thought it
Speaker 5: was the best this defense has looked against the run,
Speaker 5: against a formidable run attack.
Speaker 2: Yep, maybe all season. And I say that because you've
Speaker 2: talked about it before. When teams are dedicated to running
Speaker 2: the football down the throat to this Dallas defense, it's
Speaker 2: usually effective. For sure, Miami was they wanted to run
Speaker 2: the football, and sure there were times where it was effective,
Speaker 2: but overall, you did not allow it to hurt you.
Speaker 2: What hurt you was the fact that your offense petter
Speaker 2: pattern in the second and fourth or second and third
Speaker 2: quarter and you couldn't find a rhythm. That's what ended
Speaker 2: up hurting you. I thought this defense played well enough
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 7: Defense played lights out. You talked about some of the
Speaker 7: individual players in terms of the law. He was disruptive
Speaker 7: as all get out. I think Milice Cooker had one
Speaker 7: heck of a game coming up and being physical and
Speaker 7: just bringing guys down at the point of contact. Collectively,
Speaker 7: as a defense, these guys had a seventy five percent
Speaker 7: effectiveness rate in the red zone. You know, the Dolphins
Speaker 7: were only one of four in the red zone, which
Speaker 7: is out of this world. That was number one team
Speaker 7: in the league in the red zone. They were sixty
Speaker 7: eight percent I think going into the game red zone effectiveness.
Speaker 7: So they balled out man tackles for loss. Okay, they
Speaker 7: only allowed ninety one yards on the ground. They had
Speaker 7: four tackles for loss. I mean, I mean they played
Speaker 7: on the other side of the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 7: they created havoc in the backfield they had.
Speaker 3: Tua had a terrible game. I mean, coverage wise.
Speaker 7: You know, I don't want to take anything away from
Speaker 7: our defense, but they had guys open. They had a
Speaker 7: lot of guys open, a lot of opportunities. But Tua
Speaker 7: was back there like he was constipated. He was not stable. Okay,
Speaker 7: he did not feel safe at all. He was back there.
Speaker 7: He had the happy feet, he was overthrowing things. He
Speaker 7: was just not accurate because he didn't feel like he
Speaker 7: could sit back there and sit on his back leg
Speaker 7: without getting his head knocked off. That's a testament to
Speaker 7: his entire defensive line. And yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 7: they did what they needed to do in order to
Speaker 7: put their team in position to win the ball game.
Speaker 7: To your point, offense just did not do enough, and unfortunately,
Speaker 7: holding Miami to twenty two points didn't work in.
Speaker 3: Your favor, you know. And that's that's something that you
Speaker 3: would take all day long.
Speaker 7: Hey, can you stop the number one offense in the league,
Speaker 7: number one passing offense, the number four rushing offense, number
Speaker 7: one scoring offense to twenty two points? I think you
Speaker 7: would have taken that and said, yeah, we're going to
Speaker 7: pretty much win the ball game, yep. And unfortunately you didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was unfortunate that. That's what hurts.
Speaker 2: This about this the most is the fact that you
Speaker 2: had chances. Dallas had certain chances throughout the game, and
Speaker 2: whether it's the lip key fumble or the play before that,
Speaker 2: or there were opportunities late in the game.
Speaker 5: They had a shot, they had a shot, and they
Speaker 5: didn't take it.
Speaker 2: And it feels very reminiscent of Week nine against Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: It's just exactly where I'm looking at is, Hey, they
Speaker 2: were there, there were things to build on.
Speaker 3: But you lost the Game's that's what it looked like.
Speaker 2: But instead of it being twenty eight twenty three and
Speaker 2: you had plays go the opposite direction throughout is the
Speaker 2: same sort of deal.
Speaker 3: And you lost twenty two to twenty.
Speaker 6: Philly game they had Schoonmaker on the one, gets sap
Speaker 6: this game they had the Tony Pollard on the one.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.
Speaker 6: You know, just how it comes down to just those
Speaker 6: little plays there. And it's been funny because yeah, people
Speaker 6: say game inches and you just kind of roll your eyes, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: we've heard this a million times, you know, but it
Speaker 6: really they're in big games, it really is.
Speaker 7: But you know, I know we're talking about a lot
Speaker 7: of frustrations and a lot of frustration points. But I
Speaker 7: like to take the positive. I know, we gotta get
Speaker 7: out here in a second, get to go. This game
Speaker 7: was a positive even though you lost. And I say
Speaker 7: that because you've had the opportunity now over the last
Speaker 7: two weeks and you're about to run to it for
Speaker 7: a third week in a row to play playoff football
Speaker 7: before the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Without the playoff consequences.
Speaker 7: You've had the opportunity to play have playoff experience without
Speaker 7: having playoff ramifications. And if you don't take that as
Speaker 7: a positive and address all the things that you've put
Speaker 7: on film and use that now to help you you win.
Speaker 7: The playoffs present themselves because you're in the playoffs. You're
Speaker 7: playing for better seeding and easier matchups and all that jazz.
Speaker 7: But you're in the playoffs. So you take these experiences,
Speaker 7: both good and bad, and you use them when the
Speaker 7: playoffs present themselves. Now, I'm not saying ignore the rest
Speaker 7: of the games. You need to win and win out. Okay,
Speaker 7: you need to take care of your business. But you're
Speaker 7: learning a lot about yourself. And these coaches are learning
Speaker 7: lessons that they would much rather learn right now versus
Speaker 7: learning in the actual playoffs. The Buffalo game, you figured out,
Speaker 7: guess what, we have a freaking hold in it in
Speaker 7: the middle of our defense. Our edges are soft. We
Speaker 7: can correct that. Okay, those are correctable things. Okay, I'm
Speaker 7: glad that we've seen that. Now, Okay, are awesome. Now,
Speaker 7: Miami played one heck of a game. We had some
Speaker 7: things that we did really, really well. We have some
Speaker 7: things that we need to convert on. We know that
Speaker 7: we can go total toad with one of the best
Speaker 7: offenses in this league, if not consider the best offense
Speaker 7: in this league.
Speaker 3: Awesome solid. Let's take that. Okay, now, let's improve upon
Speaker 3: the things that we need to prove upon.
Speaker 7: Now we're probably about the player our most physical game
Speaker 7: outside of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3: Let's see how we respond to this.
Speaker 7: Okay, can we play big boy ball and come out
Speaker 7: here and hit some guys in the mouth. You're hitting
Speaker 7: on all these checkpoints, and by the time you're getting
Speaker 7: ready to go play the playoff games, you have all
Speaker 7: these as examples and all these experiences that you can
Speaker 7: now lean on and bring into the playoffs to say, ah,
Speaker 7: let's not do that again, or ah, we've seen this before,
Speaker 7: let's turn this up one more time versus what we
Speaker 7: did a couple of weeks back. I think it's it's awesome.
Speaker 7: It's a sucky part of the season because of the
Speaker 7: scheduled the difficulty, but it's awesome when you look at
Speaker 7: it because it's all by perspective. When you take these
Speaker 7: experiences and taking it to the playoffs, you'd be a
Speaker 7: much better off team than you would have been had
Speaker 7: you had an easier portion.
Speaker 3: Of the season. Right now, as long as you can
Speaker 3: get out of these games healthy too.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean that's a big thing in general, as
Speaker 2: you get out of these dog fights healthy.
Speaker 6: And on that note, I forgot to mention the news
Speaker 6: and notes Stefan Gilmour Jerry was at spot and said
Speaker 6: he'll be good to go for Sunday.
Speaker 1: Huge, but or Saturday.
Speaker 6: Sorry, but I wanted to bring that up because that
Speaker 6: was a huge positive to leave that game without him.
Speaker 6: Because the way he was on the ground, I think
Speaker 6: a lot of people watching were like, whoa, this could
Speaker 6: be yeah, yeah, and if you lost him, you'd be
Speaker 6: in a lot of trouvel So it sounds like they
Speaker 6: really dodge a bull on the stuff on gil Morio
Speaker 6: injury and he was able to return anyway.
Speaker 2: Since we are comparing this Miami loss to the Philadelphia
Speaker 2: loss back in week nine, if the same result happens
Speaker 2: and follows and the Cowboys win five straight, they're in
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. So hey, there's things that you can
Speaker 2: be excited about moving forward. Cowboys Nation Big One this
Speaker 2: week on Saturday.
Speaker 3: It's a short week.
Speaker 5: We will be turning the page to the Detroit Lions tomorrow.
Speaker 2: We're going to preview the Dallas defense versus a very
Speaker 2: formidable Lions offense tomorrow afternoon. We'll also have some storylines
Speaker 2: as well as we get back here on Talking Cowboys
Speaker 2: should have Nick Harris back in the fold as well
Speaker 2: for Chris Beam, Isaiah Standback, John Machoda. I'm Kyle Yeoman
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