WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: South Beach Setback 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:03.159 The following. 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.200 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:06.720 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:11.959 Cowboys. 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:16.720 This he is Talking Cowboys, springing live from the Dallas 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:18.680 Cowboys World Tours. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:19.880 At the Star in Frisco. 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:31.320 Streets Adown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:38.160 John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.760 It's a Talking Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented by 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.560 Black Rifle Coffee Company. 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.040 We are live from the Star in Frisco, Texas, in the. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:51.159 SWBC studios where the Dallas Cowboys are now ten and 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:55.160 five following a Christmas Eve defeat at the hands of 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.680 the Miami Dolphins. Twenty two to twenty was the final score, 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.720 game winning field goal from Santa wins it for the Dolphins. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.720 As time expires, hope everybody had a safe and happy 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:06.720 holiday weekend. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:08.640 It's time to talk football again. 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.040 We've got Isaiah stand Back, We've got John Manchoda, no 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.480 Nick Harris today, but Kyle Yeoman's here with Chris Beam 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:15.520 in the back run and everything. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.759 Gentlemen, how was there the weekend? Everybody good? Yeah? 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.840 Man, I flew on Christmas for the first time, so 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.760 that was interesting. How was that honestly the exact same 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.120 that it normally is, except there must have been less 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.120 people out in the flight because I got upgraded first class. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:30.800 Hey sappy about that? 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.240 About that? You told them who you are? 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:34.199 Yeah? 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.080 I did a lesson here, y'all. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:37.600 No, but I thought that. 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:38.320 I don't know. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.039 I thought it was going to be more of a hassle, 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:41.920 and it was actually pretty easy to fly. 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.000 Is that maybe because everybody's already where they need to 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:46.520 be by Christmas Day? 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:48.680 Is it the day before and day after? 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.880 That's more of the day after. It has to be terrible. Yeah, 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.240 today has to be terrible. Yeah, I'm sure. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:54.280 I would think that's the reason. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.880 Yeah, it's probably what it is. That's good. Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.720 So I had to fly on Christmas Day? We got 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.480 back home. You good? Good from there? 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.320 I am? I'm ready to roll here? 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.280 Yeah, here you go. What about Tuesday? I got to 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.800 sit down. It was awesome. Have you ever done that before, dude? 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.520 Hardly ever, But it was awesome. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.480 I made some pizzas with the fan don't want to 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:15.120 look a little pizza oven and that was it. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.440 Man. What the kiddos get this year? What it's saying 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:17.800 and bringing? 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:22.880 I got my my soccer players got them a ball launcher, 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.120 which is pretty much like a jugs machine for soccer 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.320 players company out out of Europe, So that was pretty cool. 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.120 That was not cheap, but they need it and they're 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.120 gonna use it. And what else? 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:37.240 What else happened? My daughter? My daughter's sky. She likes 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.280 bath bombs, so she got a bunch of bath bombs. Okay, yeah, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:41.840 there's some other stuff in there too, but that's her 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.280 number one and lights led. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.800 Her room looks like a dog on nightclub. Okay, yeah, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:53.200 fog machine coming soon. It's crazy that they can smell fresh. Cash. 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.160 Yeah, cash there you go. 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.839 Uh yeah, that's fun. I hope everybody had fun over 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:00.400 the holidays. How about you, Kyle? 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.160 It was fun Me and the wifey first Christmas married 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:08.040 and in last Christmas Christmas kids so that wash. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:09.360 Yeah, that was la Christmas. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:10.840 You're gonna be able to get up at like nine 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.919 o'clock row, No, my kids crawled in my bed at 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:15.760 what five am? 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:17.000 Six am? 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.040 I heard him run around upstairs. 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.080 So her family does like Christmas Eve up really big, okay, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.680 And so as soon as we were done here, we 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.960 went over to her uncle's house, which is in Dallas, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.639 and he's got a nice bar set up and they 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.000 do like a big they call it the Feast of 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:35.680 the Seven Fishes. It's just like an Italian tradition. So 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.720 they've got like shrimp and sea bass and snapper and 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:39.400 all sorts. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.000 Of different stuff. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:41.920 And so they like saved me a plate and they 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.040 had like some raviolis and stuff, and so it was delicious. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.480 And then of course we did like our Christmas Eve, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:48.320 like gift. 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.120 Exchange, had some drinks flowing. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:51.200 It was a long day. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.080 We got home. We actually stayed at the in laws house. 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.760 We got to the in laws at like one thirty, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.000 went to bed at like two thirty because we were 0:03:59.000 --> 0:03:59.760 just talking with. 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:00.680 A bit on Christmas. 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.240 Yeah, oh yeah, and then uh and then woke up 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.119 early the next morning. I had a big breakfast, got 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:08.560 back to our house, which where we hosted last night, 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:09.920 and so it was nice. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:10.360 It was a lot. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.280 It was fun though, first and first, first and last. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.400 From here on out, it's all about the kiddos, but 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.640 it has facts, bro Yeah, no doubt about that. 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.919 My mom brought like a Santa sleigh full of gifts, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.000 like I mean, just packed my dag's pickup truck and 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:24.880 brought it in. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.600 I was like, why'd you why'd. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:27.360 You go so big this year? 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:28.800 She was like, becuse this is the last one there 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:29.599 you get. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.159 She was like, I went big for y'all because next 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:33.480 year it ain't about y'all. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.360 Speaking of slag, did you tell everybody what Nate Newton 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:35.680 got you? 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:37.480 Nate Newton? 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:41.279 On Sunday, we walked in for pregame and I walk 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.919 in and there's this just a it's. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.200 Almost like a sled Like it's like a sled full. 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.600 It's like a furniture mover full of boxes of diapers. Yeah, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:51.680 there were four. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.400 Massive boxes of diapers and he put a little note 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:54.800 on top of it. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.120 He said, don't open until Christmas Day. I was like, 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.840 all right, that's awesome. It was fun. It was great. 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.320 So lots of fun over the weekend. Let's talk about 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:03.160 some news and notes. Though. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.640 The Cowboys fall twenty two to twenty to the Dolphins, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.600 an unfortunate break for them as they. 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.600 Really had chances throughout the game to win. 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:12.440 It will dive deeper into that in a moment, but 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.520 first let's hit what's happened since then? 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.800 Well, yeah, I mean Jerry's was on the radio this morning, 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.960 So just with that, I would think the biggest things 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.960 are the injury updates. He said that Tyron Smith got 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.159 an injection last week, so I'm thinking that some type 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.240 of a something in his back to kind of loosen 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.520 things up, and that he was pretty hopeful that he'll 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:32.880 be able to play Saturday against Detroit because he got 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.320 that injection. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.279 Not as positive on the Jonathan Hankins front. 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.400 Jonathan Hagen said in the locker room last week, I 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.120 mean he thought Detroit was a good target date. He's 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:45.080 from Detroit. He really wants to playing this game. Jerry's 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.159 not ruling him out, but he's just not as certain 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:52.520 about Jonathan Hankins. Jerry did say he thinks rookie Mazzie 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:53.440 Smith has been coming on. 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:55.840 We can get to that and a little bit. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:01.760 Later still Bury Jerry Jones and being super optimistic about 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.279 the team's chances of making a deep playoff run, saying 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:06.760 some of the same stuff he's been saying for the 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.400 last few weeks of how he wouldn't trade positions with 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.800 anybody else, which I don't know about that. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:14.560 I think if you get that one seed. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.080 And the way this team's been playing at home, to 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:18.679 have that all throughout the playoffs. 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:19.760 I think you'd rather have that. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.120 But he does say that his biggest reason of optimism 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:25.040 is is Dak Prescott and the way he's been playing. 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.160 But this one's the most interesting one that I know 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:29.880 we'll get into a little bit just because of the 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.279 fact that Mike has been so vocal about it and 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.880 it's just him not drawn to holding call since October. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.000 And I'm not going to read everything that Jerry said, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.160 I'll just kind of sum it up, and it was 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.200 basically that he's saying similar things to what Mike has 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.640 said last week, and that's reps are making judgment calls 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.600 on if a player is being held, but they weren't 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.520 going to be able to make that play, then they're 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:56.440 not calling that as much. So and what Jerry brings 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.640 up and what Micah brings up is that, well, he's 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.200 a free and so you shouldn't be judging him on 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.039 the same thing that you're judging other edge rushers, you know. 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.120 And so I think that that that's something that you know, 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.480 Jerry mentioned when Steven being on the competition committee, maybe 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.160 it's something they look at in the offseason. I just 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:15.880 know the teams that have the top edge rushers all 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.000 are kind of complaining about this, you know, like whether 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.080 you talk about like a Miles Garrett at Aiden Hutchinson, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:24.000 you know, the bosas like it's just something where they 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.560 don't want it to be judgment cause if a guy's 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.240 being held, call it even if he is a little 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.520 bit away from the play. That that for maybe another 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.400 player that I won't name because I don't want to 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:34.880 take any shots at anybody, but like for Michaeh Parsons, 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:36.320 Michael Parsons can make that play. 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:36.600 You know. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.840 My whole thing in all this is that let me 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.800 just state at the beginning that I do think that 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.080 this team over the last few years complains. 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.000 Way too much about the officials. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:48.880 Let me just start with that, so I don't want 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.080 to sound like somebody that just oh blameing officials for everything, 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:54.480 because I think I think that that's been an issue. 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:55.640 Isaiah's talked about this. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.360 I remember you bringing this up in twenty twenty Toach 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.080 McCarthy was, yeah. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.080 Yeah, I think that there might be a little bit 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:02.720 behind the scenes. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.400 I don't know this as a fact, but I feel 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.560 like just from off the last few years that there 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.560 is kind of almost a rallying cry being told to 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.240 the players as in, it's us against the world, it's 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.360 us against that team, the other opponent, the rafts, everything, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:17.520 And I don't know that I love that, So I 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.320 just want that to be stated first before I say 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.320 what I'm about to say. It's ridiculous to have somebody's 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.360 talented as Micah Parsons to favor right now to be 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.240 Defensive Player of the Year in the NFL not have 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.960 a single holding call since October's That's ridiculous, Like there's 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.640 just there's no way that that is possible, you know. 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:35.160 And I'm not sitting here saying that he needs to 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:37.800 get all the calls that let's say, like Michael Jordan 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.120 or Lebron James doing their prime, but he needs to 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.360 get more calls. He deserves the benefit of the doubt 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.400 because of the type of player he is. And again, 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.840 I covered the Dallas Cowboys, so I'm speaking about Micah. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.680 But you can say the same thing like I said 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.160 Miles Garrett and Hutchinson. Some of these freak elite edge rushers, 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.160 like I get what Mica is saying that they don't 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.040 want you to wrect the game because they wanted to 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:59.360 be an offensive game, you can let a couple of 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.720 these go and let a guy have two three sacks, 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.760 and because to be honest with you, none were called 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.600 in that game and for most of that game. If 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.840 you weren't a fan of the Dolphins or Cowboys, let's 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.960 not act like. That game was just so entertaining and 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:12.679 it was just so great and the NFL just did 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.560 such a great job with the two top offenses in 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.520 the NFL. There was plenty in that game where you 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.800 were just like, if you if you respect the game 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.280 and you just watch as a fan that knows football, 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.520 you appreciate it because you know, those are two of 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.679 the top teams the NFL going at it, so whatever 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.280 the score is is another thing. But to sit there 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.000 and say that we got to make it so offensive 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.679 first that we can't allow freak edge rushers to do 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.800 their thing, I think that that's an issue. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:41.720 Yeah, what do you think? I concur I believe that. Sorry, 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:46.600 I think that might get off up like this gets 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.280 you that rile though. Now I'm not one to point 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:49.880 the finger at the referees. I hate that. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.120 But there is some facts of that, right, There's some 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.719 some reality to the fact that Mike is getting held substantially, 0:09:57.240 --> 0:10:01.360 and it's unfortunate he's not getting the calls. Frustration is warranted. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:03.839 People are talking about how he needs to pull off 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:04.560 on the quarterback. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:05.400 Like when you're. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.440 Getting held play after play after play, you're winning your 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.839 assignment play after play after play, and the only reason 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.640 why you're not making the plays because you're being held 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.720 and it's not being called. When you finally get to 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:17.680 the quarterback, Oh, he's gonna pay for it. He's gonna 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.240 pay for it. So you know, shout out to Micael 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:24.560 for continue to fight. This dude won his assignment. He 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.960 probably scored eighty percent on his on pass rushes. I mean, 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:29.719 his dude's all over the place of the other night, 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.800 and you know, shout out to him and trying his 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:34.600 best to keep his head cool and trying to let 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:39.199 you know, Jerry and everybody else handle the political. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:39.120 Side of it. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.240 But it has to be beyond frustrating when when you're 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.760 literally beating people play in and play out and you're 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:45.640 not getting the call. 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:46.120 That's god. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:48.320 I mean, it has to be absolutely frustrating. And for 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.439 people who don't understand it, I just flip it out 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.280 and say ceedee lamb goes out there, gets ten, gets 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.040 ten ballster on his way, he only catches two because 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:58.920 on the other eight he was being held and none 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.360 of those were called p I like Erabody would be 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.120 losing their mind right now. They should be the same 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.440 way that they feel in regards to Micah. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.679 And I'm not sitting here saying that you know they 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.040 need to call you know, oh, every time Michael Parsons play, 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:12.920 there's going to be four or five holding calls a game. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:14.600 But I'm gonna tell you this right now, just one. 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.080 I don't think you need to see. Now, this isn't 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.600 a holding, yeah, But I don't think you need to 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.600 watch that game and see anymore than the Deshaun Elliott 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:22.280 play on the goal line against Tony Pollard to show 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.840 you how one play can make such a huge difference 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:28.440 in the entire game. So if it's just a drive, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.120 maybe one of those field goal drives is a punt, yeah, 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.400 because of the holding call. And it talk about the fifty. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.160 Yard field goals, like one sack there takes them completely 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.000 out of field goal rank. I like when you brought 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:44.199 up about you have to look at the player at 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.360 the same time, And I mean these officials. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:47.960 They study as much as anybody. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.240 I mean, they know the rule book, they know the players, 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:53.040 they know the teams, The teams know the officials. At 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.640 the same time, there's ways that you can still have 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.720 the back of the mind and say that's Michael Parsons. 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.560 He can make that play as opposed to this other 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.800 guy that that's still an NFL player, but there's no 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.120 way he's getting this, but Michah Parsons can get there. 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:09.920 Yeah, they're very true, but I don't think that should 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:13.160 ever be taken into an account on a decision to 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:15.480 make of a throw flag or not. If it's a foul, 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.800 it's a foul, right, Yeah, I mean, like take the 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.319 player out of it. You should be able to you 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:20.840 should be able to have to go blind folded with 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:22.600 you know, in terms of the player, in terms of number, 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.079 and just say okay, that's a holding call. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:25.720 So we need to change the mindset. 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.880 Yeah, across the board, because a lot of times when 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:29.880 MICA's being held it's not even him coming from the outside, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.560 it's him coming from the intense and so like he's 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.080 beating centers, he's beating guards, and these guys don't have 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.880 the lateral agility to be able to keep up with him, 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.760 so all they can do is hold. So he's literally 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.920 running through arms to try to get to quarterbacks and 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:45.760 it's blatant. You know, it'd be one thing it was like, 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.520 I don't know, but these are blatant holds. So I 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.480 mean he has a legitimate case. I hate the fact 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.079 that this is a conversation, but they do have to 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.360 make some alterations. And to your point, it's not just Micah, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.360 but Micah is probably actually, I'll say it, Micah is 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:01.199 the most explosive defensive player in the NFL, and it's 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:03.319 very difficult to stay in front of him, especially when 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.200 dan Quinn's literally drawing up man on man matchups for him. 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.240 Do you think, with them not having drawn any holding 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.040 calls since October, you think composing teams like it's a 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:16.559 coaching point where it's like, hey, the stud's a freak. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.760 If he beats you grab them a little bit. They're 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.160 not calling it, So just grab him a little bit 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.400 if you have to. We know that you're not gonna 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:21.960 be able to stand. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.839 Well, that's what coaches are saying anyway, right, if he's beating, 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.120 you like grabbing him, we rather have a holding call 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:28.360 than him hitting our quarterback. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.600 You see how hard to hit Tua. Yeah, like Tua's 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:32.760 soul feels that today. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.240 Look at last night against the Ravens and the forty 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.240 nine Ers, Trent Williams gets out, leaves the game. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:39.920 In the fourth quarter. 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.839 The offensive line for the forty nine Ers all of 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.480 a sudden struggling. A couple of plays later, brock Perty 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:45.640 gets hit and he's out of the game. 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:46.680 And then Sam Darnold has to. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.480 You rather hold than give up the same thing on 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:53.080 a on a touchdown, right, if you're a defensive back 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.880 and you get beats, like, grab this joke, grab him. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:57.400 There's nobody if you don't have any over the. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.520 Top hill, grab this joker and hopefully don't get the flag, 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.040 but if you do, we're okay with that because it's 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:02.560 not a touchdown. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:02.800 Yeah. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:03.680 Yeah, It's just crazy. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:08.920 How the value of Lane Johnson, Trent Williams, Tyron Smith 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.000 on these downe the three top teams the NFC, and 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.600 obviously people that follow the NFL know they're good players, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.920 but their value is probably people don't respect it as 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.080 much as they probably should, just how important they are 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.840 to the rest of the team and Obviously we'll get into, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:24.760 you know, not having Tyrant in the game. But yeah, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.720 that was it from Jerry, you know, not he was 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.720 not firing Brimstone ripping anybody. This is their first time 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.360 that they've lost two games in a row since Thanksgiving 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.440 twenty twenty one. So I tuned in like I always do, 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:39.200 but I did not expect him to be just ripping 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.480 people and things like that. It's not really his style 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.400 when it's late in the season like this. So but yeah, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:45.560 those are probably highlights from it. 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:47.760 Yeah, and before we get into the game itself. In 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.920 terms of the loss, it. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.240 Does affect playoff positioning, but not as much as any 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.160 other loss would because this was to an AFC team. 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.520 It does not affect any of the conference tiebreaker, the 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:03.760 divisional tiebreaker, and it does not affect the common opponent 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.440 time breaker because if Philly were to lose again anyways, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.160 they would get that game back because Philly did beat Miami, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:10.760 so right now they own that tiebreaker. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:12.360 But if they lose one of those. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.520 Other games, that means either both teams lost to Arizona 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:16.960 or they lost to New York and Dallas didn't, so 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.760 they would regain that tiebreaker again. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.040 They still need. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:20.640 Philly to lose. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:22.880 That's ultimately what it comes down to. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.000 You can't win the division now by winning out and 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.720 hopefully having the strength of victory, so it takes the 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.520 strength of victory possibility away. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.120 It also pretty much. 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:35.160 Negates you from the top seed in the NFC as well, 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.760 even with San Francisco losing last night, because you lose 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.440 a week to try and catch up to San Francisco, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.840 so that's out of the question as well. The division 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.880 still intact, the two seed still intact, because you would 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:49.280 defeat the Lions this week in order to get there. 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.240 So I mean, if you win your final two games, 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:55.760 you need the same result in order to win the division. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:57.880 So it doesn't change a whole lot other than some 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.840 of those little minuscule things into terms of the playoffs 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:02.960 seating as well. All right, when we come back here 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.320 on Talking Cowboys, let's dive into the offensive side of 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.320 the ball. Like John said, Tyron Smith, the value is there. 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.840 How did they look up front? How did Dak Prescott 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.400 look in the twenty two to twenty loss to Miami 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.520 on Sunday more Talking Cowboys. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.800 Right after this, Todd thought it would be secure to 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.440