WEBVTT - Fighting 101 (Part 3) Dealing With A “Resentful Martyr”

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there everybody happy saturday it is saturday august 29th

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<v Speaker 1>and this is our third and final installment of our

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<v Speaker 1>fighting 101 series and this is an interesting topic resentful

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<v Speaker 1>martyrs do you have someone who is a resentful martyr

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<v Speaker 1>in your life do you have any idea of what

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<v Speaker 1>that might be babe.

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<v Speaker 2>A resentful martyr. A martyr is one always thinking they're

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<v Speaker 2>taking some kind of a sacrifice, resentful. So yes, someone

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<v Speaker 2>who sacrifices and is pissed about it and lets you

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<v Speaker 2>know it.

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<v Speaker 3>You kind of nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So psychiatrists say this is actually a subcategory of narcissism.

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<v Speaker 3>This is basically a narcissist in disguise.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone really hard You wouldn't necessarily think initially this person

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<v Speaker 1>falls into that category, but they basically make grand gestures,

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<v Speaker 1>like in performative sacrifice. Performative sacrifice. Yet all of that

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<v Speaker 1>grand gesturing and performative self-sacrifice is actually self-serving.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there examples of this you're going to have?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good. We're going to have to get to it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know one?

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<v Speaker 2>I have known one, yes. Not now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're no longer in my life. It is not you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm saying, I think we can say, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't assume, but I think we can have some

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<v Speaker 1>fun with this one because, and we always can have

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<v Speaker 1>fun with it, but I would never, this is not you.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think this is me.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have to tell me because I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to pretend to know how I'm perceived.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't want to start a fight, but it

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<v Speaker 2>won't because I've learned how to handle all conflicts today.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so resentful martyrs do things for you whether

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<v Speaker 1>you like it or not. They're not necessarily... loud or

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<v Speaker 1>flashy or arrogant. So again, they're kind of hard to spot.

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<v Speaker 1>They appear nice, helpful and giving, but their actions actually

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<v Speaker 1>have nothing to do with you at all and everything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with them as getting validation and attention. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>their help is always on their terms, and sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>even against what you've expressly said you don't want or

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need. Like a surprise birthday party would.

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<v Speaker 3>Be, for me, a clear example.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone knows you don't like that, and they do it

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<v Speaker 1>anyway to say, look what I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Did for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bringing big gestures in front of lots of people so

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone sees how great of a husband or a

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend or a wife or a friend you are, because

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<v Speaker 1>look at me, look what.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we've seen this play out before.

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<v Speaker 3>This is all landed, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the signs are, yes, they do nice things

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<v Speaker 1>for you, but strings are always attached.

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<v Speaker 3>Like what? Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it will be... They want something from you. They

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<v Speaker 1>need something from you. Maybe you didn't even ask for

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<v Speaker 1>it or they want it, but you know the act

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<v Speaker 1>of kindness will somehow be used against you as a

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<v Speaker 1>bargaining chip, emotional blackmail. And if you don't accept it

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<v Speaker 1>or you object to it in any way, they will

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely go bonkers on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was imagining a fight in which a spouse

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<v Speaker 2>is saying, after all I did for you and I

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<v Speaker 2>put together that party for you, And you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do this? Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly it. It's used as emotional blackmail later.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're almost putting it in their I'm an awesome

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<v Speaker 1>person category to be used against you if you ever

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<v Speaker 1>have a complaint about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're collecting scores. They're building up the resume.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's some examples. You asked for examples.

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<v Speaker 1>I got plenty.

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<v Speaker 3>And this might land for a lot of folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Women, this really feels like a female thing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have experienced this. They give you a bag of clothes

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<v Speaker 1>that you have no use for.

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<v Speaker 2>A bag of clothes? Like, here, I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Got these clothes that no longer fit me.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a girl thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even want these clothes. And then if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't wear them or you don't like them, they're offended.

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<v Speaker 1>They prepare some food for you. Or they make some

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<v Speaker 1>reservation at a place they know you don't like. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you're expected to go anyway. Like, I don't like seafood.

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<v Speaker 1>And they know you don't like seafood. And they take

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<v Speaker 1>you to Joe's, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, crab house.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like... And then they'd get really upset if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to do that. It's not about the act.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the expectations they place on the act. They...

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<v Speaker 1>They want and are trying to get a reaction from

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<v Speaker 1>you that will make them feel good. They do what

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<v Speaker 1>they want to do, and then they expect you to

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<v Speaker 1>react in a way that gives them pleasure. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really massively manipulative.

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<v Speaker 3>Way of going about your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds twisted.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they say, if you are unclear, like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>do I know this person? I think this person might

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<v Speaker 1>be doing these kinds of things to me.

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<v Speaker 3>They say.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll know it when you say no. When you finally say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. No thanks on those clothes. No thanks on

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<v Speaker 1>preparing a meal for me. I did not want to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>No thanks to some vacation you planned to a destination.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go. They actually start resenting everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who refuses to participate in what they want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll get angry.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll tell you you're ungrateful and They'll tell you you're demanding, unkind,

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<v Speaker 1>or mean. They may give you the silent treatment or

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<v Speaker 1>one-word answers. They may mope and act like a victim.

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<v Speaker 1>They may even tell you you.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't appreciate them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that this is something that you

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<v Speaker 1>can recognize on the receiving end. I wonder how many

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<v Speaker 1>people who are on the other side of it actually

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<v Speaker 1>know this is what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Who wants to admit that? Because everybody who's thinking of

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<v Speaker 2>something that they've done right now As they're listening, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be something they've done. They are probably, the next

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<v Speaker 2>thing they're doing is justifying and saying, no, not me.

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<v Speaker 2>That was really out of the goodness of my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want anything in return. Okay, it's okay to

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<v Speaker 2>ask yourself a question. Nobody's, you're not the worst person

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<v Speaker 2>in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and you know what? I think people get so scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I worry when I see an article like this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you absolutely can recognize when it's happened to you or

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<v Speaker 1>if someone in your life presents.

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<v Speaker 3>These types of behaviors. But it's so hard to recognize

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<v Speaker 3>it in ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the interesting thing is if you've had

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship where you've been on the receiving end, you

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<v Speaker 1>do then have to ask yourself when you're doing something

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<v Speaker 1>kind for someone else, do you want credit? And then, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I have absolutely done that where you make a meal.

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<v Speaker 1>You want someone to tell you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>That was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>You buy somebody a gift for Christmas. You want them

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you what a great gift it was and

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<v Speaker 1>how much they love it. That's all in all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, to a certain degree. And I'll fully cop

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<v Speaker 1>to that. But do you take it to the next level?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hold it against them if they didn't react

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<v Speaker 1>the way you wanted them to? Do you hold it

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<v Speaker 1>against them if they didn't give you some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>gratitude or compliment in return for your gesture. That is

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<v Speaker 1>something we can all work on. I think we all

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<v Speaker 1>might have, or some of us might have, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of this in us. And then, of course, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the extreme where, yes, you are given this label, resentful martyr.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just thought this was interesting to recognize, but

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<v Speaker 1>also to self-reflect in moments about your intentions behind doing

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<v Speaker 1>kind things.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. It's okay to say thank you when somebody does

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<v Speaker 2>something kind.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you should. Obviously, showing gratitude is the kind

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to ask yourself, if you didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction you wanted and you get angry about it, ooh.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your actual intention behind, and that's a hard

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<v Speaker 1>thing to ask yourself. It's funny, I even think about, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to bring this back to Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know why it just popped in my head,

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<v Speaker 1>this engraving his name on the Kennedy Center, because he

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<v Speaker 1>wants credit for restoring.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this is an apt example.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, he wants credit for restoring.

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<v Speaker 1>The Kennedy Center, and so he wants his name engraved

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<v Speaker 1>so he gets forever, like, centuries later, credit for doing

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<v Speaker 1>something good for.

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<v Speaker 2>The Kennedy Center.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really good example.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a really, really good example. That's a damn shame.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is what that, man, a resentful martyr. And saying,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't let me put my name on it,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to tear the damn thing down.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is one of the signs. They will get angry.

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<v Speaker 1>They start resenting people who refuse to participate in their dynamic.

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<v Speaker 2>I will destroy this memorial if you don't put my.

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<v Speaker 3>They keep a log or a ledger of who owes them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>These are some of the signs.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a resentful martyr in chief.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not where this episode was supposed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but the interesting thing is all of these relationship

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<v Speaker 1>episodes that we've been doing today... Yes, of course they

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<v Speaker 1>apply to your romantic relationships or even your friendships, but

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<v Speaker 1>they also, we can see them in politics. We can

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<v Speaker 1>see them in our workplaces. These dynamics exist in every relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it's president to his people who elected him.

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<v Speaker 1>These dynamics exist, and recognizing them in other people is

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, but recognizing even smaller tendencies in yourself is

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<v Speaker 1>freeing because you can say, oh, damn, on a much

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<v Speaker 1>smaller level, I've done that. I've felt that. What is

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<v Speaker 1>that about me? And I don't want to be like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, the most glaring example just might be our

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<v Speaker 1>own president.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still laughing. No, that's an exact 100% perfect example

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<v Speaker 2>of what you're talking about, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. All right. So when we come back, we have

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<v Speaker 1>some tips from the experts on dealing with a resentful martyr.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ on our part

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<v Speaker 1>three of Fighting 101. We're talking about resentful martyrs and look,

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<v Speaker 1>they could pop up in many different ways in your

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<v Speaker 1>life and you could even be one yourself or be

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<v Speaker 1>a version of one yourself. Don't want to I know

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to admit that they have narcissistic tendencies, but

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<v Speaker 1>upon many years of therapy, my therapist likes to say

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<v Speaker 1>all of us have a little touch of narcissism in us.

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<v Speaker 3>We're born with it.

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<v Speaker 1>We are. It's survival instincts and we have to develop

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<v Speaker 1>beyond it. We have to, first of all, recognize the

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<v Speaker 1>traits in us and do better, as you like to say, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all narcissists. Is that what?

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<v Speaker 3>We all have tendencies.

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<v Speaker 2>Tendencies. Narcissistic tendencies.

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<v Speaker 1>We all have narcissistic tendencies. And I think we throw

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<v Speaker 1>that label around to other people. How many people will

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<v Speaker 1>actually say, yeah, I'm a narcissist?

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody wants to admit that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds terrible. Sounds bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody wants to admit that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's okay to say I have tendencies. I'm narcissist-lite.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think many people would even want to

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<v Speaker 1>admit that. They're so quick to point the finger at

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<v Speaker 1>other people. But the only way we all do better

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<v Speaker 1>and get better is to actually reflect inward and stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time you feel yourself blaming someone else for how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel or blaming someone else, that is the moment

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<v Speaker 1>we have to say, wait a minute, what's my role

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<v Speaker 1>in all of this? So anyway, the tips on dealing with, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>say you do have, like, oh my God, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that person. How do you deal with Or manage a

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<v Speaker 1>resentful martyr.

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<v Speaker 2>With the president. Okay, go.

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<v Speaker 3>The first thing you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do is you just have to recognize what's really going on, okay?

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<v Speaker 1>So some of it is just saying, wow, that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So that gives you the first step. The next one

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<v Speaker 1>is to recognize that conditional help, and especially when it's unsolicited,

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<v Speaker 1>is a debt, not a deposit. So don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to accept this help. with strings attached, that

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<v Speaker 1>have conditions attached. Don't look at it as someone doing

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<v Speaker 1>something nice for you. Recognize it for what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to get something from you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm paying for this later.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it when it happens. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you also have to recognize, because people get confused,

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<v Speaker 1>that this is love.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that person trying to gain leverage against you. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to show you love. They're trying to gain leverage.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like love. So that's exactly what love always is.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to balance out who loves who more and

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<v Speaker 2>all this and who has the power in a relationship. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not love. That's leverage. which is love. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I'm just joking. I'm just joking.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but the number one tip, and I underlined this,

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<v Speaker 1>do not call them out.

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<v Speaker 2>For being narcissists?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do not call them out. Do I need to repeat that? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Caitlin Collins, stop that stuff. Don't challenge them.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't challenge a relentless, what, martyr?

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<v Speaker 3>A resentful martyr.

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<v Speaker 2>I said relentless.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you could be a relentless resentful martyr. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's so funny you point that out. Look what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>And that is when you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch the press. Somebody question him. Challenge him.

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<v Speaker 3>How does he react?

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<v Speaker 2>Explosively.

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<v Speaker 3>And there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, this will only lead to unproductive conflict and...

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<v Speaker 1>That's what a lot of narcissists want anyway. That landed

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<v Speaker 1>for me. They put themselves in this position because they

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<v Speaker 1>actually need conflict. It gives them a purpose. It gives

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<v Speaker 1>them something to fight against. And in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>it gives them power. And so by calling them out,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually empower them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, narcissists don't sit in corners by themselves. They need

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<v Speaker 2>to be charged. They do. They need to be fed,

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<v Speaker 2>and that fuel comes from us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, they get a payoff from you fighting back. From

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<v Speaker 1>you criticizing them, they love it. Now they have something

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<v Speaker 1>to actually bite on, and now they've got a purpose

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<v Speaker 1>to fight you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what they say.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead of calling them out, you literally have to accept...

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<v Speaker 1>that this is who they are. And you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be realistic then about the relationship and recognizing whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you want that person in your life.

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<v Speaker 3>And those are the steps. It's not about calling them out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about being realistic.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Once you use the president example, I can't get

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<v Speaker 2>past that. So I apply what you just said to

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<v Speaker 2>the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have to be realistic and If we.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to continue a relationship with him.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>To continue a relationship with him, you remove them from

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 2>So no third term.

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<v Speaker 3>When they're president of the.

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<v Speaker 1>United States, that's an incredibly difficult thing to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the best thing to do is to.

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<v Speaker 3>Change the channel. But anyway, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's fun to look at it from a non-romantic perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>But even for me, this has friendships. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>female friendships, a lot of times, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's been my experience.

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<v Speaker 1>That you don't realize it in the moment, but all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you say, wait a minute, is that

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on here? And just recognizing it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I just think also correcting any behavior within yourself. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have a tendency to have some of these feelings,

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<v Speaker 1>actually get curious about them. If you're questioning yourself, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to be self-reflective, by the way, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>a narcissist. If you're willing to say, wow, maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>am doing that, You're not a narcissist. I think some

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<v Speaker 1>people get worried. And then I had someone say, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're actually questioning whether or not you are one, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not because you're actually being willing to be self-reflective.

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<v Speaker 3>So does anyone out there is like, oh, no, is

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<v Speaker 3>that me?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're actually asking yourself that, chances are you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>But if anybody listening said, that's not me.

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<v Speaker 3>Then maybe you are. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk soon.