1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:14,788 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,308 --> 00:00:28,468 Speaker 2: Good morning, Welcome to Good Morning Football. We are live 4 00:00:28,508 --> 00:00:30,508 Speaker 2: in New York City. It is Monday, May twenty second. 5 00:00:30,548 --> 00:00:32,748 Speaker 2: I'm Sarah Walsh and for my friend Jamie Earl. We 6 00:00:32,788 --> 00:00:35,668 Speaker 2: got Jason mccordy, we got Peter Schrager, and we've got 7 00:00:35,668 --> 00:00:39,948 Speaker 2: a six time Pro Bowl defensive tackle in Gerald mcret Joel. 8 00:00:40,708 --> 00:00:43,828 Speaker 3: Welcome, Hey, thanks for having me. This is wonderful. I 9 00:00:43,908 --> 00:00:46,908 Speaker 3: love coming to New York. This is excellent and I 10 00:00:46,948 --> 00:00:51,388 Speaker 3: mean you guys home. So first off, thank you, thank you, 11 00:00:52,148 --> 00:00:53,348 Speaker 3: thank you, and I'm. 12 00:00:53,188 --> 00:00:53,948 Speaker 4: Happy to be here. 13 00:00:54,468 --> 00:00:57,748 Speaker 5: Can I thank you this? 14 00:00:57,828 --> 00:01:02,108 Speaker 6: Can we call out the elphan? You're not wearing pants 15 00:01:02,188 --> 00:01:02,508 Speaker 6: right now? 16 00:01:02,628 --> 00:01:06,068 Speaker 3: No, I'm not wearing pants. Something on this I do have. 17 00:01:06,708 --> 00:01:08,708 Speaker 3: I do have a bottom half on, but I do 18 00:01:08,828 --> 00:01:12,348 Speaker 3: not half on pants. And I mean usually I love 19 00:01:12,428 --> 00:01:15,548 Speaker 3: coming to New York, but in this instance it did. 20 00:01:15,428 --> 00:01:16,668 Speaker 4: Not go according to plan. 21 00:01:17,228 --> 00:01:21,348 Speaker 3: My bag did arrive, but somebody decided, you know what, Geryld, 22 00:01:21,468 --> 00:01:24,148 Speaker 3: you don't need your bag right at. 23 00:01:24,028 --> 00:01:25,868 Speaker 4: The moment, so I'm gonna hold it for you. 24 00:01:26,468 --> 00:01:28,188 Speaker 3: And I got a hold of them and they said, 25 00:01:28,268 --> 00:01:30,708 Speaker 3: you know what, Nope, I'm not bringing it back. I'll 26 00:01:30,708 --> 00:01:32,628 Speaker 3: bring it back when I feel good and ready. So 27 00:01:33,348 --> 00:01:36,508 Speaker 3: somebody is in possession of my suitcase right now. I 28 00:01:36,508 --> 00:01:40,068 Speaker 3: don't know who it is, but yeah, they got it. 29 00:01:40,228 --> 00:01:43,508 Speaker 5: The person in the world you would least less want 30 00:01:43,508 --> 00:01:45,228 Speaker 5: to piss off than Gerald McCoy. 31 00:01:45,468 --> 00:01:46,948 Speaker 6: What are they gonna find anything? 32 00:01:47,028 --> 00:01:53,868 Speaker 4: And a bunch of workout closed. Yeah, that's it. 33 00:01:54,068 --> 00:01:55,828 Speaker 2: Well, I know when we were talking this morning about 34 00:01:55,828 --> 00:01:57,468 Speaker 2: like who's I mean, you guys didn't play at the 35 00:01:57,468 --> 00:02:00,108 Speaker 2: same plane ways, so we can't we can't see borrowing. 36 00:02:00,588 --> 00:02:03,228 Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't exactly transfer in terms of. 37 00:02:03,188 --> 00:02:07,748 Speaker 6: It cotton dock or shorts than that crab cotten dockers. 38 00:02:08,948 --> 00:02:10,148 Speaker 7: He don't really seen the fiddle. 39 00:02:10,828 --> 00:02:10,988 Speaker 8: You know. 40 00:02:11,108 --> 00:02:12,748 Speaker 2: It's not going to slow Joe McCoy down. He knows 41 00:02:12,788 --> 00:02:15,268 Speaker 2: what it's like to overcome adversity. No problem, we'll get 42 00:02:15,308 --> 00:02:18,428 Speaker 2: through it. And you look great regardless of Dario. We're 43 00:02:18,428 --> 00:02:20,548 Speaker 2: so happy to have you. We want to begin today 44 00:02:20,588 --> 00:02:24,668 Speaker 2: by celebrating the life of Jim Brown. Brown passed away 45 00:02:25,028 --> 00:02:28,228 Speaker 2: on Friday at the age of eighty seven. NFL Commissioner 46 00:02:28,308 --> 00:02:32,828 Speaker 2: Roger Goodell offering these words on behalf of the entire 47 00:02:32,988 --> 00:02:36,868 Speaker 2: NFL family, we extend our condolences to Monique and their family. 48 00:02:37,348 --> 00:02:39,748 Speaker 2: Jim Brown was a gifted athlete, one of the most 49 00:02:39,788 --> 00:02:43,988 Speaker 2: dominant players to ever step on any athletic field, but 50 00:02:44,108 --> 00:02:48,108 Speaker 2: also a cultural figure who helped promote change during his 51 00:02:48,548 --> 00:02:51,868 Speaker 2: nine year NFL career, which coincided with the civil rights 52 00:02:51,908 --> 00:02:54,988 Speaker 2: movement here at home. He became a forerunner and role 53 00:02:55,068 --> 00:03:00,068 Speaker 2: model for athletes being involved in social initiatives outside their sport. 54 00:03:00,308 --> 00:03:04,188 Speaker 2: He inspired fellow athletes to make a difference, especially in 55 00:03:04,228 --> 00:03:07,868 Speaker 2: the communities in which they lived. Jim Brown arguably the 56 00:03:07,868 --> 00:03:11,228 Speaker 2: greatest player in NFL history, but his influence extended far 57 00:03:11,348 --> 00:03:13,628 Speaker 2: beyond the football field. And Jason, we want to start 58 00:03:13,668 --> 00:03:15,708 Speaker 2: with you because you spent time in Cleveland. 59 00:03:15,828 --> 00:03:17,028 Speaker 8: What did Jim Brown mean to you? 60 00:03:17,508 --> 00:03:19,748 Speaker 7: It was so cool to be a Cleveland Brown and 61 00:03:19,868 --> 00:03:22,628 Speaker 7: walk in the hallway and see Jim Brown walking around 62 00:03:22,748 --> 00:03:25,068 Speaker 7: had an office there, and getting a chance just to 63 00:03:25,108 --> 00:03:27,748 Speaker 7: say what's up and introduce yourself. And I remember he 64 00:03:27,868 --> 00:03:30,108 Speaker 7: got opportunity to talk to our team at different points 65 00:03:30,108 --> 00:03:32,308 Speaker 7: throughout that year, and I remember going up to him. 66 00:03:32,348 --> 00:03:34,668 Speaker 7: It was just like, it's incredible and it's a honor 67 00:03:34,948 --> 00:03:36,308 Speaker 7: to get a chance to meet you, and he was 68 00:03:36,348 --> 00:03:38,508 Speaker 7: always so humble. He would talk to guys and you 69 00:03:38,548 --> 00:03:40,148 Speaker 7: saw that over the course of the week, and so 70 00:03:40,228 --> 00:03:43,868 Speaker 7: many players that played in Cleveland posting pictures and different 71 00:03:43,868 --> 00:03:46,748 Speaker 7: things and talking about the influence that he had on them. 72 00:03:46,788 --> 00:03:49,268 Speaker 7: And I think for beyond that one single season I 73 00:03:49,308 --> 00:03:51,908 Speaker 7: spent in Cleveland. When you talk about Jim Brown, of 74 00:03:51,948 --> 00:03:53,908 Speaker 7: course you saw those highlights and what he did on 75 00:03:53,908 --> 00:03:56,988 Speaker 7: the football field. Myself being too young to remember and 76 00:03:57,028 --> 00:03:58,948 Speaker 7: be alive to watch him out there on the field, 77 00:03:59,268 --> 00:04:02,348 Speaker 7: you grew up and hearing about how dominant was on 78 00:04:02,388 --> 00:04:05,028 Speaker 7: the field, but seeing how dominant he was off the field. 79 00:04:05,068 --> 00:04:06,348 Speaker 6: And you'd hear about. 80 00:04:06,308 --> 00:04:08,668 Speaker 7: Jim Brown not being afraid to speak up and talk 81 00:04:08,708 --> 00:04:11,508 Speaker 7: about race issues that were going on in our country 82 00:04:11,788 --> 00:04:14,908 Speaker 7: as a professional athlete at the time when it wasn't popular. 83 00:04:14,908 --> 00:04:17,468 Speaker 7: You talk about Muhammad Ali going through what he was 84 00:04:17,468 --> 00:04:20,348 Speaker 7: going through of not one to enter the war, one 85 00:04:20,428 --> 00:04:23,468 Speaker 7: to enter the draft, and Jim Brown bringing the Cleveland 86 00:04:23,548 --> 00:04:27,028 Speaker 7: Summit there and having Bill Russell, their Kareem Abdul Jabal, 87 00:04:27,668 --> 00:04:32,828 Speaker 7: Carl Stokes there talking about surrounding Muhammad Ali and willing 88 00:04:33,108 --> 00:04:35,748 Speaker 7: and giving their support for him at a time where 89 00:04:35,748 --> 00:04:38,628 Speaker 7: that wasn't popular, where as a professional athlete you could 90 00:04:38,668 --> 00:04:42,468 Speaker 7: possibly lose the sponsorships or whatever, you had the fan 91 00:04:42,548 --> 00:04:44,948 Speaker 7: recognition of people loving you and cheering for you. He 92 00:04:45,068 --> 00:04:47,588 Speaker 7: wasn't afraid to step out. He was able in LA 93 00:04:47,708 --> 00:04:50,908 Speaker 7: to bring gangs together to find the truth. Jim Brown 94 00:04:51,068 --> 00:04:54,108 Speaker 7: wasn't afraid to be himself. This guy retired from the 95 00:04:54,188 --> 00:04:58,028 Speaker 7: NFL to become an actor and starring movies. One hundred 96 00:04:58,148 --> 00:05:00,268 Speaker 7: Rifles is a movie he starred in where his co 97 00:05:00,428 --> 00:05:03,708 Speaker 7: star was Raquel Walsh, an interracal love scene within a 98 00:05:03,748 --> 00:05:06,228 Speaker 7: movie back in the day where that wasn't popular. So 99 00:05:06,348 --> 00:05:09,828 Speaker 7: Jim Brown not only broke rushing records and ran around 100 00:05:09,868 --> 00:05:12,628 Speaker 7: people and broke tackles, but he also broke down color 101 00:05:12,668 --> 00:05:15,468 Speaker 7: barriers and stepped forward and was willing to speak up 102 00:05:15,468 --> 00:05:17,508 Speaker 7: on the behalf of other people at a time where 103 00:05:17,508 --> 00:05:20,628 Speaker 7: it was not popular. So for myself as a professional athlete, 104 00:05:20,668 --> 00:05:23,188 Speaker 7: you look to the Jim Browns of their day who 105 00:05:23,268 --> 00:05:26,108 Speaker 7: were willing to do these things, and they opened up 106 00:05:26,428 --> 00:05:28,508 Speaker 7: a whole new avenue for us to be able to 107 00:05:28,548 --> 00:05:30,748 Speaker 7: do things. And he walked so we can run. The 108 00:05:30,788 --> 00:05:33,788 Speaker 7: different athletes you talk about Lebron James and Cleveland doing 109 00:05:33,828 --> 00:05:37,468 Speaker 7: things following. Jim Brown so a special human being, a 110 00:05:37,468 --> 00:05:40,188 Speaker 7: special NFL player, and a special person off the field. 111 00:05:40,508 --> 00:05:42,188 Speaker 7: With everything he was able to do and everything he 112 00:05:42,228 --> 00:05:42,708 Speaker 7: was able to. 113 00:05:42,668 --> 00:05:46,108 Speaker 5: Impact, he was one of one, and his civil rights 114 00:05:46,228 --> 00:05:48,988 Speaker 5: legacy is different than a lot of different people. It 115 00:05:49,068 --> 00:05:51,388 Speaker 5: was controversial at the time. It's also controversial within the 116 00:05:51,428 --> 00:05:54,628 Speaker 5: African American community. So he went out and did a 117 00:05:54,668 --> 00:05:56,708 Speaker 5: lot on the field and was even a greater impact 118 00:05:56,788 --> 00:05:59,428 Speaker 5: off the field. I do want to just talk about 119 00:05:59,548 --> 00:06:01,188 Speaker 5: for you watching at home, and you might be a 120 00:06:01,188 --> 00:06:01,868 Speaker 5: younger generation. 121 00:06:01,908 --> 00:06:03,708 Speaker 6: You're seeing highlights in black and white. You're like, whatever 122 00:06:03,708 --> 00:06:04,228 Speaker 6: your own player. 123 00:06:05,508 --> 00:06:07,388 Speaker 5: Jim Brown would be the best running back of football today, 124 00:06:07,628 --> 00:06:08,868 Speaker 5: like Jim Brown would be the best. 125 00:06:08,908 --> 00:06:10,228 Speaker 6: He's two hundred and thirty pounds. 126 00:06:10,908 --> 00:06:13,348 Speaker 5: The guy led the league in rushing eight of his 127 00:06:13,468 --> 00:06:15,468 Speaker 5: nine years in the league, and he retired at the 128 00:06:15,468 --> 00:06:17,468 Speaker 5: age of twenty nine. 129 00:06:17,188 --> 00:06:19,508 Speaker 6: The peak of his look. 130 00:06:19,348 --> 00:06:22,548 Speaker 5: At Okay nineteen sixty five, his final year in the season. 131 00:06:22,868 --> 00:06:24,948 Speaker 5: We've seen a lot of running backs kind of fade 132 00:06:24,948 --> 00:06:27,228 Speaker 5: out into the end of their career. This is the 133 00:06:27,268 --> 00:06:30,348 Speaker 5: final year of his career. He had as much as 134 00:06:30,348 --> 00:06:32,828 Speaker 5: seven hundred more yards and the next leading rusher. That's 135 00:06:32,868 --> 00:06:37,388 Speaker 5: Gail Sayers, Timmy Brown's He's rushing for these numbers. 136 00:06:37,148 --> 00:06:39,588 Speaker 6: At the peak of his career and then walks away. 137 00:06:40,148 --> 00:06:43,308 Speaker 5: That sixty five season, he was the best player in football. 138 00:06:43,308 --> 00:06:45,628 Speaker 5: He was unbelievable. He was a three time MVP from 139 00:06:45,628 --> 00:06:46,588 Speaker 5: the running back position. 140 00:06:46,788 --> 00:06:50,748 Speaker 6: Guys, he won MVP as a rookie. His first season 141 00:06:50,748 --> 00:06:52,468 Speaker 6: in the league. He went out and won the MVP 142 00:06:52,588 --> 00:06:54,868 Speaker 6: award most Valuable Player. And this was in a thirty 143 00:06:54,908 --> 00:06:57,508 Speaker 6: two team league. This is a smaller league. 144 00:06:57,748 --> 00:07:00,108 Speaker 5: He won a championship for the Cleveland Browns, something that 145 00:07:00,148 --> 00:07:04,068 Speaker 5: no one has done since. Jim Brown very well could 146 00:07:04,068 --> 00:07:06,868 Speaker 5: have been the greatest player of all time, and it 147 00:07:06,948 --> 00:07:09,268 Speaker 5: might not even be an argument had he not retired 148 00:07:09,268 --> 00:07:11,188 Speaker 5: at twenty nine, to your point, pursue. 149 00:07:10,908 --> 00:07:12,868 Speaker 6: A career in Hollywood, which was a very successful actor. 150 00:07:13,948 --> 00:07:17,028 Speaker 5: One of the coolest lives in football history passed away 151 00:07:17,028 --> 00:07:21,028 Speaker 5: at eighty seven. But police don't underestimate his football abilities. 152 00:07:21,508 --> 00:07:23,508 Speaker 5: One of the greatest to ever do it, and likely 153 00:07:23,548 --> 00:07:25,468 Speaker 5: the greatest running back, not only of his generation, of 154 00:07:25,508 --> 00:07:25,908 Speaker 5: all time. 155 00:07:27,668 --> 00:07:32,108 Speaker 3: You know, for me, my actual introduction to Jim Brown 156 00:07:32,348 --> 00:07:35,228 Speaker 3: was movies. The first time I've ever seen Jim Brown 157 00:07:35,948 --> 00:07:37,708 Speaker 3: He was in a movie called I'm Gonna Get You 158 00:07:37,788 --> 00:07:42,748 Speaker 3: Sucker Keenan Ivory Wayams wrote it and I was watching 159 00:07:42,788 --> 00:07:46,868 Speaker 3: it and I was he had a funny scene and 160 00:07:46,908 --> 00:07:49,428 Speaker 3: my dad was like, you know something, he's a famous 161 00:07:49,428 --> 00:07:50,068 Speaker 3: football player. 162 00:07:50,108 --> 00:07:51,988 Speaker 4: I'm like this dude right here. You know, I'm a kid. 163 00:07:52,028 --> 00:07:54,868 Speaker 3: I don't know like this dude right here. He's like, no, son, No, 164 00:07:54,948 --> 00:07:57,708 Speaker 3: he's like the football player. And now as you get older, 165 00:07:57,708 --> 00:08:00,268 Speaker 3: you start research and you start to figure out who 166 00:08:00,308 --> 00:08:03,708 Speaker 3: he is. If they had a had to put a 167 00:08:03,708 --> 00:08:09,548 Speaker 3: picture in the Dictionary of Presence or dominance, they need 168 00:08:09,548 --> 00:08:11,708 Speaker 3: to put a picture of Jim Brown because he was 169 00:08:11,748 --> 00:08:14,188 Speaker 3: dead in every way. Like if you talk about on 170 00:08:14,228 --> 00:08:16,828 Speaker 3: the field, if you had to pick a player who 171 00:08:16,988 --> 00:08:21,268 Speaker 3: like dominated their position, you know, you have your d limmer, 172 00:08:21,348 --> 00:08:23,228 Speaker 3: you have your wide receivers. When you go to the 173 00:08:23,268 --> 00:08:26,268 Speaker 3: running back position, you have to bring up Jim Brown, Like, 174 00:08:26,308 --> 00:08:28,268 Speaker 3: I don't think there's another name you would bring up 175 00:08:28,268 --> 00:08:31,668 Speaker 3: when he talks about dominance or presence. But he had 176 00:08:31,708 --> 00:08:34,068 Speaker 3: such a presence even when he was in any given 177 00:08:34,108 --> 00:08:37,508 Speaker 3: sunday as a coach, you know, as an actor, as 178 00:08:37,548 --> 00:08:40,948 Speaker 3: an activist, everything he did, he just had such a 179 00:08:40,988 --> 00:08:45,068 Speaker 3: presence about him and his energy was always felt. But 180 00:08:45,268 --> 00:08:48,348 Speaker 3: even with like this, everybody you talk to will tell 181 00:08:48,388 --> 00:08:52,468 Speaker 3: you he's the nicest, humblest man you ever be around. 182 00:08:52,828 --> 00:08:56,108 Speaker 3: And he just loved to see people smile and he 183 00:08:56,228 --> 00:08:59,588 Speaker 3: just wanted to see everybody be better at what they did. 184 00:08:59,748 --> 00:09:02,708 Speaker 3: And when I think about Jim Brown's impact for me, 185 00:09:03,388 --> 00:09:05,828 Speaker 3: you know, I've had the speak out on certain things, 186 00:09:06,108 --> 00:09:09,548 Speaker 3: and when you need motivation of a person who did 187 00:09:09,548 --> 00:09:12,228 Speaker 3: what you did before, especially as an African American male, 188 00:09:12,988 --> 00:09:15,148 Speaker 3: Jim Brown is that example. 189 00:09:15,348 --> 00:09:16,988 Speaker 4: And that's what he was for me for sure. 190 00:09:17,828 --> 00:09:19,548 Speaker 2: I want to go back to what something you just 191 00:09:19,548 --> 00:09:22,788 Speaker 2: said about at times when you've had to speak out, 192 00:09:22,868 --> 00:09:25,868 Speaker 2: and it goes to what you brought up about Lebron. 193 00:09:25,908 --> 00:09:29,068 Speaker 2: And I think with athletes there's two sides of the 194 00:09:29,068 --> 00:09:33,188 Speaker 2: spectrum that they unfairly get. It's either, hey, stay in 195 00:09:33,188 --> 00:09:35,868 Speaker 2: your lane, which Lebron has gotten a ton of times, right, 196 00:09:35,948 --> 00:09:39,068 Speaker 2: like just go play basketball. And then there's, you know, 197 00:09:39,148 --> 00:09:42,188 Speaker 2: the athletes that really do want to just be doing this, 198 00:09:42,228 --> 00:09:43,508 Speaker 2: and then people will look at you and go, well, 199 00:09:43,548 --> 00:09:44,468 Speaker 2: why don't you speak out? 200 00:09:44,548 --> 00:09:44,668 Speaker 4: Right? 201 00:09:44,708 --> 00:09:46,868 Speaker 2: It's a it's sort of a no win situation, and 202 00:09:46,908 --> 00:09:49,548 Speaker 2: so I can't imagine when you go back to his era. 203 00:09:49,668 --> 00:09:50,668 Speaker 8: I mean, think about it today. 204 00:09:50,708 --> 00:09:53,188 Speaker 2: I mean there's still people trying to speak out about 205 00:09:53,228 --> 00:09:55,428 Speaker 2: certain things and injustices. 206 00:09:55,068 --> 00:09:57,108 Speaker 8: And and they get flack. 207 00:09:56,868 --> 00:10:00,588 Speaker 2: Either way, right, And so I cannot imagine the era 208 00:10:00,708 --> 00:10:03,508 Speaker 2: in which he did it because there's still things obviously 209 00:10:03,548 --> 00:10:05,948 Speaker 2: clearly today that pe people are fighting for. That air 210 00:10:06,068 --> 00:10:09,028 Speaker 2: is something that fortunately for all of us living today, 211 00:10:09,108 --> 00:10:11,388 Speaker 2: I mean, we're not having to go through what he 212 00:10:11,428 --> 00:10:13,548 Speaker 2: went through decades ago. And then I think you also 213 00:10:13,628 --> 00:10:17,068 Speaker 2: saw someone brought up Mhammad Ali when Muhammad Ali passed away, 214 00:10:17,068 --> 00:10:20,148 Speaker 2: and I just remember the scene from the funeral down there. 215 00:10:20,188 --> 00:10:22,548 Speaker 2: I mean, it was just it was because it was 216 00:10:22,548 --> 00:10:25,908 Speaker 2: someone that transcended sports. And so again I think you 217 00:10:25,988 --> 00:10:28,468 Speaker 2: go back and I just think about not only and 218 00:10:28,508 --> 00:10:31,308 Speaker 2: it's sort of combining a lot of what everyone said 219 00:10:31,308 --> 00:10:32,988 Speaker 2: and to Peter's point of when you look at the 220 00:10:33,388 --> 00:10:36,068 Speaker 2: stat statistically something that no one's ever done. So think 221 00:10:36,068 --> 00:10:39,468 Speaker 2: about as he's having these ridiculous seasons that we still 222 00:10:39,468 --> 00:10:41,748 Speaker 2: have not seen to this day, he was doing it 223 00:10:41,788 --> 00:10:43,828 Speaker 2: in an era that what was going on off the field, 224 00:10:43,868 --> 00:10:46,308 Speaker 2: Like what was he dealing with off the field as 225 00:10:46,308 --> 00:10:48,068 Speaker 2: he's leading the league in rushing. 226 00:10:47,868 --> 00:10:48,668 Speaker 8: Eight to nine years. 227 00:10:48,748 --> 00:10:50,668 Speaker 2: I mean that is different than the person who's leading 228 00:10:50,708 --> 00:10:52,588 Speaker 2: the league and rushing today when they step off the 229 00:10:52,588 --> 00:10:54,988 Speaker 2: football field. So it's like you combine all those things 230 00:10:55,028 --> 00:10:58,028 Speaker 2: and it's sort of mind blowing and something that you know, 231 00:10:58,508 --> 00:11:01,308 Speaker 2: most of us living today would never understand because we 232 00:11:01,308 --> 00:11:02,348 Speaker 2: weren't living back. 233 00:11:02,188 --> 00:11:04,748 Speaker 8: Then, and things that you only read about. But I 234 00:11:04,788 --> 00:11:05,428 Speaker 8: do think it's. 235 00:11:05,308 --> 00:11:08,868 Speaker 2: Interesting the sense of, as you guys would know more 236 00:11:08,908 --> 00:11:11,148 Speaker 2: so than me in terms of being a professional athlete, 237 00:11:11,508 --> 00:11:15,148 Speaker 2: that push and pull of you should speak out, you 238 00:11:15,228 --> 00:11:17,548 Speaker 2: have to speak out, or hey, I don't want to 239 00:11:17,548 --> 00:11:19,588 Speaker 2: speak out, and then you sort of take it on 240 00:11:19,628 --> 00:11:21,548 Speaker 2: that end like why don't you speak out? And there 241 00:11:21,628 --> 00:11:24,668 Speaker 2: is definitely I would assume a tough juggling act in 242 00:11:24,708 --> 00:11:27,148 Speaker 2: everyone's mind that plays of where do you stand on 243 00:11:27,148 --> 00:11:29,748 Speaker 2: that line? And I don't think it's a one situation 244 00:11:30,068 --> 00:11:33,068 Speaker 2: fits everybody right because people are different. That's just not everyone's, 245 00:11:33,388 --> 00:11:36,068 Speaker 2: you know, thing to speak out in certain ways about 246 00:11:36,108 --> 00:11:37,708 Speaker 2: certain things, even if you have a feeling about it. 247 00:11:37,748 --> 00:11:40,548 Speaker 2: And I don't think we should expect everyone to. But 248 00:11:40,588 --> 00:11:43,948 Speaker 2: that was obviously something that he felt was his calling 249 00:11:43,988 --> 00:11:46,108 Speaker 2: to do, and then something we talk about all the 250 00:11:46,108 --> 00:11:46,988 Speaker 2: time too on the show. 251 00:11:47,148 --> 00:11:49,148 Speaker 8: How tough is it to walk away from the game? Right? 252 00:11:49,188 --> 00:11:49,788 Speaker 8: I mean, I know. 253 00:11:49,828 --> 00:11:51,908 Speaker 2: We've talked about it before and where you thought you 254 00:11:51,908 --> 00:11:54,388 Speaker 2: were going to step away, but to finally step away, 255 00:11:54,708 --> 00:11:56,548 Speaker 2: and how tough is it to step away when you're 256 00:11:56,548 --> 00:11:58,668 Speaker 2: at the top of your game. I mean, being in Tampa, 257 00:11:58,708 --> 00:12:00,908 Speaker 2: I saw Tom Brady struggle with this and he was 258 00:12:00,948 --> 00:12:02,868 Speaker 2: gonna walk away. But he walked away in a year 259 00:12:02,868 --> 00:12:04,708 Speaker 2: that he almost won the MVP. I mean, it's tough 260 00:12:04,748 --> 00:12:07,868 Speaker 2: to finally walk away. So just the football aspect of it, 261 00:12:07,908 --> 00:12:10,028 Speaker 2: when he walked away and what he could still do, 262 00:12:10,148 --> 00:12:12,508 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a that's a tough thing to wrestle with, 263 00:12:12,548 --> 00:12:15,308 Speaker 2: and he seemed to not wrestle with it as much, 264 00:12:15,348 --> 00:12:17,348 Speaker 2: at least on the outside of like I'm good here, 265 00:12:17,428 --> 00:12:19,668 Speaker 2: I've done my thing, I'm ready to move on. But 266 00:12:19,708 --> 00:12:21,828 Speaker 2: that is not an easy thing to do, I would 267 00:12:21,868 --> 00:12:23,548 Speaker 2: think for any athlete. 268 00:12:23,788 --> 00:12:24,428 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 269 00:12:24,468 --> 00:12:27,548 Speaker 7: And when you research for me and read about Jim Brown, 270 00:12:27,588 --> 00:12:29,468 Speaker 7: you saw he was a guy who did what he 271 00:12:29,548 --> 00:12:31,988 Speaker 7: wanted to do, and he was very confident and comfortable 272 00:12:32,028 --> 00:12:34,628 Speaker 7: in who he was, and those came with the flaws 273 00:12:34,668 --> 00:12:37,268 Speaker 7: of different things that transpired in his life and also 274 00:12:37,308 --> 00:12:38,948 Speaker 7: with the good of things that he was able to 275 00:12:38,988 --> 00:12:41,468 Speaker 7: do for himself and for other people. But a very 276 00:12:41,508 --> 00:12:43,748 Speaker 7: tough thing to do, and he figured out how to 277 00:12:43,788 --> 00:12:45,308 Speaker 7: do it and thrive on both sides of it. 278 00:12:45,308 --> 00:12:48,708 Speaker 5: He's the greatest lacrosse player arguably to ever play. He 279 00:12:48,788 --> 00:12:51,308 Speaker 5: played lacrosse in high school, then went to Syracuse and 280 00:12:51,388 --> 00:12:52,908 Speaker 5: that's the greatest of his generation. 281 00:12:53,188 --> 00:12:55,668 Speaker 6: He was lettered in basketball at Syracuse. He was a 282 00:12:55,748 --> 00:12:58,508 Speaker 6: varsity basketball player at Syracuse, like was really good at Bastall. 283 00:12:58,628 --> 00:13:00,548 Speaker 6: One of the greatest athletes. And I think the terms 284 00:13:00,588 --> 00:13:01,028 Speaker 6: that've been. 285 00:13:00,908 --> 00:13:04,908 Speaker 5: Turned around a complicated legacy. Yeah, he's a seven years 286 00:13:04,948 --> 00:13:06,508 Speaker 5: old who stood for something. There's going to be a 287 00:13:06,508 --> 00:13:09,508 Speaker 5: complicated legacy there. It might not be indigestible for everybody. 288 00:13:09,588 --> 00:13:12,388 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have flaws, is what it is. 289 00:13:13,028 --> 00:13:14,988 Speaker 2: But that we say rest in peace, Jim Brown. We've 290 00:13:14,988 --> 00:13:25,428 Speaker 2: got more good morning football after this. We are how 291 00:13:25,588 --> 00:13:28,788 Speaker 2: happy happy I should say to welcome in Seewish and 292 00:13:28,908 --> 00:13:32,588 Speaker 2: Judy Batista. They are joining us from Minneapolis this morning. 293 00:13:32,628 --> 00:13:35,388 Speaker 2: That's where the spring league meetings are happening. 294 00:13:35,788 --> 00:13:39,988 Speaker 8: Steve and Judy give us the latest. What's going on there, Sarah. 295 00:13:39,988 --> 00:13:40,708 Speaker 8: Great to see you. 296 00:13:41,148 --> 00:13:44,908 Speaker 9: We are here really early because they are getting started 297 00:13:44,948 --> 00:13:48,148 Speaker 9: really early. Actually, they started last night with the Accelerator Program, 298 00:13:48,188 --> 00:13:52,748 Speaker 9: the second year of the Accelerator program for head coaching candidates. 299 00:13:52,748 --> 00:13:56,628 Speaker 9: This is strictly for coaches, not for front office types. Again, 300 00:13:56,668 --> 00:13:58,788 Speaker 9: they had a reception last night and then they're going 301 00:13:58,788 --> 00:14:01,828 Speaker 9: to have a full slate of activities here. These are 302 00:14:01,828 --> 00:14:05,668 Speaker 9: people who are they believe potential head coaching candidates soon. 303 00:14:05,948 --> 00:14:08,548 Speaker 10: Well, and diverse head coaching candidates. And one of the 304 00:14:08,588 --> 00:14:10,708 Speaker 10: things that they found with the lack of hiring of 305 00:14:11,428 --> 00:14:14,028 Speaker 10: minority candidates and head coaching is they didn't have the 306 00:14:14,068 --> 00:14:18,028 Speaker 10: opportunity to network with owners and team executives just so 307 00:14:18,028 --> 00:14:19,708 Speaker 10: they could get to know one another. So this is 308 00:14:19,828 --> 00:14:22,588 Speaker 10: what the Accelerator program is about. And today it really 309 00:14:22,588 --> 00:14:25,668 Speaker 10: starts off shortly this morning where Russell Reynolds, which is 310 00:14:25,708 --> 00:14:28,028 Speaker 10: a search firm that a lot of teams have used 311 00:14:28,028 --> 00:14:31,028 Speaker 10: to find head coaches, some of their representatives are actually 312 00:14:31,068 --> 00:14:34,948 Speaker 10: meeting with the forty representatives here to kind of tell 313 00:14:34,948 --> 00:14:37,548 Speaker 10: them that process, how that goes. Then they've got a 314 00:14:37,588 --> 00:14:42,108 Speaker 10: slew of other meetings today, Judy, but mainly some networking. 315 00:14:42,148 --> 00:14:44,268 Speaker 10: They're gonna have three touch points with owners and team 316 00:14:44,348 --> 00:14:47,468 Speaker 10: presidents where they can get familiar so they can possibly 317 00:14:47,468 --> 00:14:49,028 Speaker 10: be on the short list of being the head coaching 318 00:14:49,028 --> 00:14:49,868 Speaker 10: candidate next year. 319 00:14:49,908 --> 00:14:51,828 Speaker 9: And there's also a whole lot of league business that 320 00:14:51,948 --> 00:14:55,028 Speaker 9: they'll get to. Starts at noon. The first thing they're 321 00:14:55,028 --> 00:14:58,308 Speaker 9: going to talk about is changing the kickoff fair catch rule. 322 00:14:58,628 --> 00:15:01,468 Speaker 9: The proposal is that a fair catch on a kickoff 323 00:15:01,748 --> 00:15:04,188 Speaker 9: would go to the twenty five automatically, no matter where 324 00:15:04,228 --> 00:15:07,628 Speaker 9: the fair catch was. That is a health and safety thing. 325 00:15:08,108 --> 00:15:11,348 Speaker 9: Kickoffs are one of the most dangerous plays for concussions 326 00:15:11,628 --> 00:15:13,748 Speaker 9: in the league, and so they are trying quite frankly 327 00:15:13,788 --> 00:15:16,428 Speaker 9: to limit the number of kickoff returns. That is going 328 00:15:16,468 --> 00:15:18,148 Speaker 9: to be voted on. It has the full support of 329 00:15:18,188 --> 00:15:22,308 Speaker 9: the Competition Committee, so that usually gets approved. They are 330 00:15:22,348 --> 00:15:24,948 Speaker 9: also going to talk about something that caused quite a 331 00:15:24,988 --> 00:15:28,708 Speaker 9: stir at the annual meeting, the idea of flex scheduling 332 00:15:28,748 --> 00:15:30,988 Speaker 9: being available for Thursday night games. 333 00:15:31,108 --> 00:15:32,308 Speaker 4: John Marra from the New York. 334 00:15:32,228 --> 00:15:35,948 Speaker 9: Giants came out firing against that. We will see if 335 00:15:35,988 --> 00:15:38,628 Speaker 9: that goes through or if they sort of stand down 336 00:15:38,628 --> 00:15:40,508 Speaker 9: on that Steve. And then there's going to be a 337 00:15:40,548 --> 00:15:42,628 Speaker 9: lot of talk about the Commander's sale, the saleing to 338 00:15:42,748 --> 00:15:44,668 Speaker 9: Washington commanders. There's not going to be a vote here. 339 00:15:44,748 --> 00:15:47,388 Speaker 9: It's not close to conclusion yet. But a lot of 340 00:15:47,588 --> 00:15:48,748 Speaker 9: questions about the commanders. 341 00:15:48,908 --> 00:15:50,508 Speaker 10: Yeah, I get there will be no vote on that now, 342 00:15:50,548 --> 00:15:51,948 Speaker 10: you know. They still have to ft the all the 343 00:15:51,988 --> 00:15:56,348 Speaker 10: owners of majority ownership group all any minority owners also. 344 00:15:56,748 --> 00:15:58,388 Speaker 4: But again this is mainly. 345 00:15:58,148 --> 00:16:00,748 Speaker 10: For the accelerator program, Judy, so you know, and the 346 00:16:00,788 --> 00:16:03,588 Speaker 10: main thing as they button this up, not only are 347 00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:05,948 Speaker 10: they meeting with a shirt, but there's also going to 348 00:16:05,988 --> 00:16:09,708 Speaker 10: be an agency here from athletes first, kind of telling 349 00:16:09,788 --> 00:16:13,268 Speaker 10: these coaches the role of agents and dealing with teams 350 00:16:13,308 --> 00:16:15,468 Speaker 10: as well. So again they're getting some things that they 351 00:16:15,468 --> 00:16:18,988 Speaker 10: have not had before in the two other parts of 352 00:16:19,028 --> 00:16:22,948 Speaker 10: this accelerator program to get help diverse candidates get opportunities, 353 00:16:22,948 --> 00:16:25,348 Speaker 10: and to help owners understand and to know who some 354 00:16:25,428 --> 00:16:26,028 Speaker 10: of these guys are. 355 00:16:26,108 --> 00:16:28,068 Speaker 9: Yeaples's to say, guys, as we sent it back to you, 356 00:16:28,108 --> 00:16:31,108 Speaker 9: the NFL does not recently have a great track record 357 00:16:31,148 --> 00:16:34,188 Speaker 9: on diversity hiring for head coaches, so they are ramping 358 00:16:34,308 --> 00:16:36,708 Speaker 9: up what they're doing with their accelerator program. 359 00:16:37,748 --> 00:16:39,068 Speaker 8: Steve and Judy, thanks so much. 360 00:16:39,108 --> 00:16:41,628 Speaker 2: We'll hear from you throughout the next couple hours while 361 00:16:41,628 --> 00:16:43,988 Speaker 2: we're here this morning on Good Morning Football. So, as 362 00:16:44,228 --> 00:16:47,028 Speaker 2: they mentioned, there's forty coaches invited there to be part 363 00:16:47,028 --> 00:16:49,588 Speaker 2: of this accelerated program. Which of the coaches we have 364 00:16:49,628 --> 00:16:53,068 Speaker 2: a list of them stand out the most to you, Peter, 365 00:16:53,348 --> 00:16:53,708 Speaker 2: I think. 366 00:16:53,548 --> 00:16:55,308 Speaker 5: It's interesting because we look at this long list of 367 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:57,148 Speaker 5: coaches and most of them are on the defensive side 368 00:16:57,188 --> 00:16:57,548 Speaker 5: of the ball. 369 00:16:57,588 --> 00:16:59,868 Speaker 6: And if you look at some of the minority head. 370 00:16:59,708 --> 00:17:02,388 Speaker 5: Coaches right now in the league, predominantly on the defensive 371 00:17:02,388 --> 00:17:04,028 Speaker 5: side of the ball. I look at Brian Johnson, who's 372 00:17:04,028 --> 00:17:06,748 Speaker 5: been from it as the Eagles offensive coordinator, and I 373 00:17:06,788 --> 00:17:08,868 Speaker 5: think he might be one of these guys to watch 374 00:17:08,868 --> 00:17:11,588 Speaker 5: as ability to break down doors and say, hey, how 375 00:17:11,588 --> 00:17:14,948 Speaker 5: about some minority coaches on the offensive side of the 376 00:17:14,948 --> 00:17:18,628 Speaker 5: ball offensive coordinator. The assumption is that he and Sirianni 377 00:17:18,668 --> 00:17:20,668 Speaker 5: will work together and who will call plays. But he 378 00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:23,468 Speaker 5: was the quarterbacks coach for Jalen Hurts last season. He's 379 00:17:23,468 --> 00:17:25,948 Speaker 5: known Jalen Hurts his father, coach Jalen Hurts, back when 380 00:17:26,028 --> 00:17:29,468 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts was in high school. An incredible opportunity when 381 00:17:29,508 --> 00:17:32,028 Speaker 5: you go to the conference champion, the defending conference champion, 382 00:17:32,268 --> 00:17:34,908 Speaker 5: say you are the oc go and spread your wings 383 00:17:34,948 --> 00:17:37,108 Speaker 5: and do whatever you want with this offense. Put wrinkles 384 00:17:37,108 --> 00:17:39,268 Speaker 5: in it, get the most out of Jalen Hurts, who 385 00:17:39,348 --> 00:17:41,668 Speaker 5: just got handsomely paid and deservedly. 386 00:17:41,748 --> 00:17:41,828 Speaker 4: So. 387 00:17:42,268 --> 00:17:45,508 Speaker 5: I think Brian Johnson is fascinating because for you know, 388 00:17:45,628 --> 00:17:46,308 Speaker 5: so many years, it. 389 00:17:46,348 --> 00:17:49,388 Speaker 6: Was like Ericemy, Eric Beenemy's one man. 390 00:17:49,508 --> 00:17:51,788 Speaker 5: It can't just be Eric b Enemy as the face 391 00:17:51,828 --> 00:17:54,268 Speaker 5: of African American coaches on the offensive side of the ball. 392 00:17:54,308 --> 00:17:56,268 Speaker 5: There needs to be some others. And of course in 393 00:17:56,308 --> 00:17:58,268 Speaker 5: the past we've had Dennis Green and some other great 394 00:17:58,348 --> 00:18:01,068 Speaker 5: legends of the game. In this case, though, I think 395 00:18:01,108 --> 00:18:02,748 Speaker 5: Brian Johnson has a really good opportunity. 396 00:18:02,748 --> 00:18:04,268 Speaker 6: He's going to be at the accelerator program. 397 00:18:04,668 --> 00:18:06,508 Speaker 5: Every owner is going to be there, most of the 398 00:18:06,548 --> 00:18:08,268 Speaker 5: presidents of the teams are going to be there. Shicks 399 00:18:08,308 --> 00:18:09,868 Speaker 5: some hands, get to know them. You don't have to 400 00:18:09,868 --> 00:18:11,788 Speaker 5: go over the top. Your game will speak for itself. 401 00:18:11,788 --> 00:18:13,268 Speaker 5: But this is a good opportunity to kind of equate 402 00:18:13,348 --> 00:18:14,628 Speaker 5: himself with some of these other people. 403 00:18:14,708 --> 00:18:17,068 Speaker 7: You're excited to see the offense with Brian Johnson now 404 00:18:17,108 --> 00:18:19,188 Speaker 7: at the lead for the Eagles this season. As I 405 00:18:19,228 --> 00:18:21,348 Speaker 7: look at the list, you see just such a wide 406 00:18:21,468 --> 00:18:23,668 Speaker 7: range of experience of coaches. I look at a guy 407 00:18:23,788 --> 00:18:26,268 Speaker 7: Jerry Gray, who's on that list, who has twenty six 408 00:18:26,388 --> 00:18:29,788 Speaker 7: years of NFL coaching experience. He was my defensive coordinator 409 00:18:29,788 --> 00:18:32,428 Speaker 7: in Tennessee some years ago. And this is a guy 410 00:18:32,468 --> 00:18:35,548 Speaker 7: that is just a brilliant, just football mind. We would 411 00:18:35,588 --> 00:18:37,708 Speaker 7: stand on the sideline when our offense was on the 412 00:18:37,748 --> 00:18:40,468 Speaker 7: field and Jerry Gray would just call out to play 413 00:18:40,508 --> 00:18:43,028 Speaker 7: that was about to happen, and he would be spot 414 00:18:43,108 --> 00:18:45,908 Speaker 7: on play after play after play. This is a guy 415 00:18:45,948 --> 00:18:48,908 Speaker 7: who's a really good defensive back in the NFL as well. 416 00:18:48,948 --> 00:18:51,308 Speaker 7: Would tell us how he kept a notebook of every 417 00:18:51,308 --> 00:18:53,948 Speaker 7: wide receiver he would play against throughout the day, from 418 00:18:54,068 --> 00:18:56,428 Speaker 7: Jerry Rice and Mike Gorment to all of these different 419 00:18:56,468 --> 00:18:59,428 Speaker 7: guys and just a really smart football coach. And then 420 00:18:59,468 --> 00:19:02,348 Speaker 7: I look at a young guy, DeMarcus Covington of the 421 00:19:02,388 --> 00:19:05,068 Speaker 7: New England Patriots, just in the sixth season with the 422 00:19:05,068 --> 00:19:07,988 Speaker 7: Patriots and a defensive line coach. And this guy has 423 00:19:08,028 --> 00:19:10,948 Speaker 7: been talked about so much of just a coach that's growing. 424 00:19:10,988 --> 00:19:13,348 Speaker 7: And I got an opportunity to be in the building 425 00:19:13,388 --> 00:19:16,628 Speaker 7: with him and see him grow and develop as a coach. 426 00:19:16,668 --> 00:19:18,628 Speaker 7: And this is a guy who went from a graduate 427 00:19:18,668 --> 00:19:22,148 Speaker 7: assistant in college, went to play football at Samford University, 428 00:19:22,188 --> 00:19:24,228 Speaker 7: the home of Courtland Finn again, and now he's in 429 00:19:24,228 --> 00:19:26,348 Speaker 7: an NFL coach and he's on his way to becoming 430 00:19:26,348 --> 00:19:26,868 Speaker 7: a head. 431 00:19:26,668 --> 00:19:27,388 Speaker 4: Coach one day. 432 00:19:27,628 --> 00:19:29,748 Speaker 7: So two guys that I got a chance to play for, 433 00:19:30,068 --> 00:19:32,308 Speaker 7: one younger than me, and a coach has twenty six 434 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:35,148 Speaker 7: years of NFL experience. That's the wide range of coaches 435 00:19:35,148 --> 00:19:35,668 Speaker 7: out are there. 436 00:19:36,468 --> 00:19:38,508 Speaker 2: We love a good story, right, and so as I 437 00:19:38,588 --> 00:19:40,268 Speaker 2: was looking through here, and I feel like a lot 438 00:19:40,308 --> 00:19:42,308 Speaker 2: of times when these coaches get to be head coach, 439 00:19:42,388 --> 00:19:44,708 Speaker 2: everyone's always got some great story and there's this moment 440 00:19:44,748 --> 00:19:45,948 Speaker 2: in life when it turned and it's like. 441 00:19:45,948 --> 00:19:47,188 Speaker 8: Oh, this is what I was supposed to be doing. 442 00:19:47,228 --> 00:19:49,748 Speaker 2: So when I was going through this list, the defensive 443 00:19:49,748 --> 00:19:52,588 Speaker 2: passing game coordinator in Green Bay this year, Greg Williams, 444 00:19:52,628 --> 00:19:55,108 Speaker 2: he's new there. Played on both sides of the ball 445 00:19:55,148 --> 00:19:56,828 Speaker 2: at the University of North Carolina. He went there as 446 00:19:56,828 --> 00:19:59,588 Speaker 2: a wide receiver, then he switched to safety. He played 447 00:19:59,748 --> 00:20:03,148 Speaker 2: NFL year, played in arena football, was still working in 448 00:20:03,188 --> 00:20:05,788 Speaker 2: arena football a little bit when he was living in Arizona. 449 00:20:06,268 --> 00:20:08,028 Speaker 2: And he comes out of the mall one day and 450 00:20:08,028 --> 00:20:10,668 Speaker 2: there's a flyer that's left on the windshield of his 451 00:20:10,708 --> 00:20:13,948 Speaker 2: car that says, hey, at the YMCA, we need some coaches, 452 00:20:14,028 --> 00:20:15,388 Speaker 2: and he's like, well, why not don't. 453 00:20:15,428 --> 00:20:16,828 Speaker 8: I don't have anything else to do right now. 454 00:20:17,028 --> 00:20:19,068 Speaker 2: So he goes to the YMCA on a whim from 455 00:20:19,068 --> 00:20:21,748 Speaker 2: a flyer and signs up and starts coaching nine, ten 456 00:20:21,828 --> 00:20:24,508 Speaker 2: on eleven year old basketball players. And he said it 457 00:20:24,588 --> 00:20:26,988 Speaker 2: was in that moment that he was like, this is 458 00:20:26,988 --> 00:20:28,228 Speaker 2: what I'm supposed to do with my life. 459 00:20:28,268 --> 00:20:29,428 Speaker 8: Now he's a football player, and. 460 00:20:29,388 --> 00:20:32,908 Speaker 2: Now he's been coaching for nineteen years in football, but 461 00:20:33,068 --> 00:20:35,068 Speaker 2: his moment of like, this is what I was supposed 462 00:20:35,068 --> 00:20:36,828 Speaker 2: to do was literally because somebody put a flyer on 463 00:20:36,868 --> 00:20:39,428 Speaker 2: his car back in the day in the mall parking lot, 464 00:20:39,428 --> 00:20:41,588 Speaker 2: which I think is really cool, Like how'd you do? 465 00:20:41,748 --> 00:20:41,908 Speaker 4: Well? 466 00:20:41,988 --> 00:20:43,988 Speaker 2: This guy came out of the mall, and you know, 467 00:20:44,028 --> 00:20:45,188 Speaker 2: I was just over at H and M. And then 468 00:20:45,228 --> 00:20:46,948 Speaker 2: I decided this is what I should do. I don't 469 00:20:46,948 --> 00:20:48,628 Speaker 2: there probably wasn't H and M back then. Actually I 470 00:20:48,668 --> 00:20:53,148 Speaker 2: don't even know this guy. And then I also wanted 471 00:20:53,148 --> 00:20:55,148 Speaker 2: to just give a shout out too. As you look 472 00:20:55,188 --> 00:20:56,908 Speaker 2: at that list forty people, there's only one woman on 473 00:20:56,948 --> 00:20:59,148 Speaker 2: that list, and it's Kelly Brownson that she works with 474 00:20:59,188 --> 00:21:02,108 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns wide receivers. So when you look at me, 475 00:21:02,188 --> 00:21:05,788 Speaker 2: I mean she's one of forty so someone that has 476 00:21:05,908 --> 00:21:07,788 Speaker 2: worked her way up the ranks as well. 477 00:21:07,908 --> 00:21:09,348 Speaker 8: So what an opportunity for her. 478 00:21:09,988 --> 00:21:14,948 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I could be a little biased because I yes, 479 00:21:14,988 --> 00:21:17,868 Speaker 3: And you know what, no problem. I'm not gonna apologize bias. 480 00:21:18,348 --> 00:21:21,428 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be biased because I played for this coach. 481 00:21:21,468 --> 00:21:25,148 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Leslie Fraser. You know, Leslie Fraser 482 00:21:25,508 --> 00:21:28,228 Speaker 3: came to Tampa when we were struggling, which in my 483 00:21:28,308 --> 00:21:30,948 Speaker 3: tenure in Tampa, that was a lot of years we struggled. 484 00:21:30,988 --> 00:21:31,828 Speaker 4: But it's okay. 485 00:21:32,468 --> 00:21:35,188 Speaker 3: He came from Minnesota where he really had a big 486 00:21:35,228 --> 00:21:37,428 Speaker 3: turnaround in his first year as a head coach. I 487 00:21:37,508 --> 00:21:40,348 Speaker 3: mean he coached a I mean incredible running back, future 488 00:21:40,348 --> 00:21:43,308 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer and Adrian Peterson, and he kind of 489 00:21:43,348 --> 00:21:45,668 Speaker 3: had a short tenure. I think it got cut kind 490 00:21:45,668 --> 00:21:47,908 Speaker 3: of short. But when he came to Tampa. One thing 491 00:21:48,268 --> 00:21:50,988 Speaker 3: I loved about Coach Fraser is how he could command 492 00:21:51,508 --> 00:21:54,668 Speaker 3: attention from all of us when he spoke. He's got 493 00:21:54,668 --> 00:21:57,308 Speaker 3: this like deep tone in his voice, and he could 494 00:21:57,348 --> 00:22:00,108 Speaker 3: get everybody to like it was almost like your grandfather 495 00:22:00,228 --> 00:22:02,268 Speaker 3: when you and there you playing too much and then 496 00:22:02,308 --> 00:22:04,268 Speaker 3: you hear his voice and you're like, all right, man, 497 00:22:04,508 --> 00:22:05,068 Speaker 3: me chill out. 498 00:22:05,148 --> 00:22:05,388 Speaker 4: Yeah. 499 00:22:05,668 --> 00:22:09,428 Speaker 3: But more so than that, what he did in Buffalo 500 00:22:09,508 --> 00:22:10,788 Speaker 3: is a defensive coordinator. 501 00:22:11,108 --> 00:22:14,068 Speaker 4: Over the last six years, he's had four top five. 502 00:22:13,908 --> 00:22:17,548 Speaker 3: Finishes in defense. And I'm a defensive guy, you know. 503 00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:20,468 Speaker 3: But he also had an opportunity to see a high 504 00:22:20,548 --> 00:22:23,588 Speaker 3: powered offense in Buffalo, so he knows what it looks like. 505 00:22:23,988 --> 00:22:26,468 Speaker 4: He would know like what both sides should look like. 506 00:22:26,748 --> 00:22:29,748 Speaker 3: But being a defensive minded coach, I mean, yes, we 507 00:22:29,788 --> 00:22:33,788 Speaker 3: are in a high powered offense of like time in football, 508 00:22:34,108 --> 00:22:35,908 Speaker 3: but in order to slow that down, like you see 509 00:22:35,948 --> 00:22:38,228 Speaker 3: what the Chiefs are doing, you have to play some 510 00:22:38,548 --> 00:22:42,028 Speaker 3: really good defense. I think giving him another shot, he's 511 00:22:42,068 --> 00:22:46,028 Speaker 3: seen the mistakes he's made, and I truly believe that 512 00:22:46,468 --> 00:22:50,348 Speaker 3: he's a great candidate, and I honestly believe like he 513 00:22:50,388 --> 00:22:52,348 Speaker 3: would like really lead a team to some. 514 00:22:52,428 --> 00:22:58,668 Speaker 2: Great It is a Monday, and there's always a slew 515 00:22:58,708 --> 00:23:00,548 Speaker 2: of topics to discuss from the weekend, so it is 516 00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:03,588 Speaker 2: time to put them together in another edition of Monday 517 00:23:03,948 --> 00:23:06,668 Speaker 2: Mishman after a five and twelve season. 518 00:23:06,708 --> 00:23:07,828 Speaker 8: This is how we're starting. 519 00:23:07,988 --> 00:23:11,068 Speaker 2: The Denver Bronco is hoping to turn things around in 520 00:23:11,108 --> 00:23:13,788 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three with new head coach Sean Payton. When 521 00:23:13,948 --> 00:23:17,108 Speaker 2: asked about his new coach, Broncos safety Justin Simmons said 522 00:23:17,148 --> 00:23:20,188 Speaker 2: he's excited to get the ball rolling and excited to win. 523 00:23:20,268 --> 00:23:22,868 Speaker 2: So our question is this, which team with a new 524 00:23:22,908 --> 00:23:26,508 Speaker 2: head coach are you most confident in heading into the season. 525 00:23:26,708 --> 00:23:29,348 Speaker 5: I think Shane Siken's bringing something from Philly, and I 526 00:23:29,388 --> 00:23:31,148 Speaker 5: think that the Colts are going to at least be 527 00:23:31,388 --> 00:23:33,388 Speaker 5: far improved. I don't know if they're going to be 528 00:23:33,388 --> 00:23:34,868 Speaker 5: a playoff team. I don't know if they're gonna win 529 00:23:34,908 --> 00:23:36,948 Speaker 5: a Super Bowl. I just say this, They're gonna be 530 00:23:37,028 --> 00:23:40,548 Speaker 5: confident out there when it matters on offense, and they've 531 00:23:40,548 --> 00:23:44,308 Speaker 5: got a new head coach. Sure, but I'm excited for 532 00:23:44,308 --> 00:23:45,988 Speaker 5: when they roll out Anthony Richardson. I don't want to 533 00:23:46,028 --> 00:23:48,548 Speaker 5: rush that process. I think they're gonna know when the 534 00:23:48,548 --> 00:23:51,068 Speaker 5: time is right. But gosh, everything I'm hearing is that 535 00:23:51,148 --> 00:23:55,388 Speaker 5: this kid is outstanding. Twenty years old, twenty years old 536 00:23:55,468 --> 00:23:57,868 Speaker 5: starting quarterback in the NFL. At some point this season. 537 00:23:58,108 --> 00:24:00,148 Speaker 5: I can't imagine Minshew's going to go the full year 538 00:24:00,148 --> 00:24:02,028 Speaker 5: as the starter. At some point, They're going to go 539 00:24:02,028 --> 00:24:03,588 Speaker 5: to Richardson and I can't wait to see what Sichens 540 00:24:03,588 --> 00:24:06,188 Speaker 5: got cooked up for him. Stiching was the guy calling 541 00:24:06,228 --> 00:24:07,788 Speaker 5: the play the second half of the season when Jalen 542 00:24:07,868 --> 00:24:10,748 Speaker 5: Hurts really got rolling. So I think the Colts again, 543 00:24:10,988 --> 00:24:12,468 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm particular to win the division 544 00:24:12,508 --> 00:24:14,108 Speaker 5: or anything. I just think they're gonna be far improved 545 00:24:14,108 --> 00:24:15,708 Speaker 5: in the product we saw last year on the field. 546 00:24:15,828 --> 00:24:17,988 Speaker 7: I'm staying in that same division and you talked about 547 00:24:18,028 --> 00:24:20,548 Speaker 7: Shane Stike and I'm going with Demiko Ryans at Houston 548 00:24:20,828 --> 00:24:23,548 Speaker 7: and same thing. They may not be going in playoff 549 00:24:23,548 --> 00:24:25,468 Speaker 7: team all of that, but you look at Houston over 550 00:24:25,508 --> 00:24:29,188 Speaker 7: the last few years, from Bill O'Brien to Romeo Crenell 551 00:24:29,308 --> 00:24:31,708 Speaker 7: taking over in Kully the Lovely Smith. I feel like 552 00:24:31,748 --> 00:24:34,548 Speaker 7: now them bringing in Demiko Ryans, the energy that he's bringing, 553 00:24:34,588 --> 00:24:37,268 Speaker 7: the defensive mindset, they have, the coach that's going to 554 00:24:37,308 --> 00:24:39,668 Speaker 7: be there for a while. And all off season we 555 00:24:39,748 --> 00:24:42,668 Speaker 7: talked about Houston losing out on the number one overall 556 00:24:42,668 --> 00:24:45,148 Speaker 7: pick in that last game against the Colts and then 557 00:24:45,148 --> 00:24:47,428 Speaker 7: they going to the draft and they end up with CJ. Stroud, 558 00:24:47,508 --> 00:24:49,668 Speaker 7: end up with Will Anderson, and there's like a new 559 00:24:49,788 --> 00:24:52,588 Speaker 7: day in Houston. Right now, Demiico Rans is throwing out 560 00:24:52,628 --> 00:24:55,148 Speaker 7: the first pitch for the Houston Ashrols, a perfect strike 561 00:24:55,348 --> 00:24:58,188 Speaker 7: across the plate. It's just exciting time for the Texans 562 00:24:58,268 --> 00:25:00,188 Speaker 7: right now, and I can't wait to see what they 563 00:25:00,228 --> 00:25:02,428 Speaker 7: look like as a team in the mindset and the 564 00:25:02,468 --> 00:25:04,748 Speaker 7: mentality they take over from their head coach. 565 00:25:05,268 --> 00:25:07,588 Speaker 4: You know what, this might be low hanging fruits. 566 00:25:08,388 --> 00:25:10,388 Speaker 3: It might be low hanging fruit, but I'm gonna go 567 00:25:10,548 --> 00:25:13,708 Speaker 3: Sean Payton and Russell Wilson. 568 00:25:14,348 --> 00:25:15,868 Speaker 4: You know what I was So, I was. 569 00:25:15,828 --> 00:25:18,388 Speaker 3: Thinking about this and I look something up. I said, 570 00:25:18,428 --> 00:25:22,628 Speaker 3: you know what, let me check something. Because first ballot 571 00:25:22,708 --> 00:25:26,628 Speaker 3: Hall of Famer Drew Brees came from San Diego and 572 00:25:26,708 --> 00:25:27,228 Speaker 3: he made. 573 00:25:27,068 --> 00:25:28,188 Speaker 4: A complete turnaround. 574 00:25:28,308 --> 00:25:31,868 Speaker 3: I don't think people understand what happened the year before 575 00:25:31,908 --> 00:25:35,108 Speaker 3: he got to New Orleans. These numbers are very comparable 576 00:25:35,668 --> 00:25:38,948 Speaker 3: Drew Brees, like accurate Drew Brees. Then we know for 577 00:25:38,988 --> 00:25:41,268 Speaker 3: being accurate, this is what he did the year before 578 00:25:41,268 --> 00:25:44,868 Speaker 3: he got with Sean Payton. Everybody killed Russell Wilson, me included. 579 00:25:45,628 --> 00:25:47,868 Speaker 4: But this is the Sean Payton effect. 580 00:25:48,388 --> 00:25:52,948 Speaker 3: The Broncos were tied for third worst team before he 581 00:25:53,028 --> 00:25:56,268 Speaker 3: got there. The Saints were second worst team before he 582 00:25:56,348 --> 00:25:57,388 Speaker 3: got there, had a. 583 00:25:57,348 --> 00:25:59,628 Speaker 4: Huge turnaround, won the division. 584 00:25:59,188 --> 00:26:00,908 Speaker 3: And we all know what happened. A couple of years 585 00:26:00,948 --> 00:26:04,948 Speaker 3: later they won a super Bowl. Same build, kind of 586 00:26:04,988 --> 00:26:07,068 Speaker 3: the same mold. Russell Wilson, Drew Brees. 587 00:26:08,428 --> 00:26:11,388 Speaker 5: I'm just saying what your done in that personally, because 588 00:26:11,388 --> 00:26:12,028 Speaker 5: he's in your face. 589 00:26:12,068 --> 00:26:13,548 Speaker 4: He's fire years he is. 590 00:26:14,188 --> 00:26:16,988 Speaker 3: He's so fired up it almost it gets you amped up. 591 00:26:17,028 --> 00:26:19,868 Speaker 3: And you gotta remember he's just the coach. Because you 592 00:26:19,988 --> 00:26:23,708 Speaker 3: like man, man, you better all right. Sorry, I'm supposed 593 00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:25,428 Speaker 3: to be going after him, but that's. 594 00:26:25,268 --> 00:26:27,348 Speaker 4: What he brings to a team. Don't and he doesn't 595 00:26:27,428 --> 00:26:28,348 Speaker 4: back down from anybody. 596 00:26:28,348 --> 00:26:30,508 Speaker 3: You can run over to him in full pass and 597 00:26:30,548 --> 00:26:33,508 Speaker 3: he'll buck back at you. But he's such a mastermind. 598 00:26:33,868 --> 00:26:38,668 Speaker 3: I believe with this team who lost six games within 599 00:26:39,108 --> 00:26:42,108 Speaker 3: you know, one score or less, add the Sean Paige 600 00:26:42,188 --> 00:26:43,588 Speaker 3: mindset to this office. 601 00:26:43,668 --> 00:26:46,348 Speaker 4: With a top ten defense, this team could be scared. 602 00:26:46,388 --> 00:26:46,828 Speaker 4: I like it. 603 00:26:46,948 --> 00:26:48,188 Speaker 2: I'll give you a team that I think could win 604 00:26:48,228 --> 00:26:49,908 Speaker 2: the division. But I could say that about any team 605 00:26:49,948 --> 00:26:52,148 Speaker 2: in that division because we're going to the NFC South, 606 00:26:52,188 --> 00:26:54,668 Speaker 2: and I'll go Frank Rake in the Panthers, And I 607 00:26:54,708 --> 00:26:56,588 Speaker 2: love Frank and I think he can. 608 00:26:56,468 --> 00:26:59,268 Speaker 8: Do incredible things with Bryce Young. But I think if you're. 609 00:26:59,148 --> 00:27:01,268 Speaker 2: Just a player that was on that Panthers team last 610 00:27:01,308 --> 00:27:03,508 Speaker 2: year and you look at what they did, especially late 611 00:27:03,508 --> 00:27:05,068 Speaker 2: in the year down the show stretch, I mean, this 612 00:27:05,148 --> 00:27:08,508 Speaker 2: is a team that went for their last six. The 613 00:27:08,548 --> 00:27:11,188 Speaker 2: Panthers went four and two in their division. They were 614 00:27:11,228 --> 00:27:14,228 Speaker 2: unbeating in the division at home, they have a really 615 00:27:14,228 --> 00:27:15,468 Speaker 2: good defense, and by. 616 00:27:15,348 --> 00:27:17,548 Speaker 8: The way, all those things that just rattled off, they did. 617 00:27:17,428 --> 00:27:21,748 Speaker 2: That when they were in coaching chaos, quarterback chaos, Christian McCaffrey, 618 00:27:21,748 --> 00:27:24,828 Speaker 2: trade chaos, and they still found a way in a 619 00:27:24,948 --> 00:27:28,668 Speaker 2: very tumultuous year to almost come out and win the division. 620 00:27:28,868 --> 00:27:30,348 Speaker 2: And when I said it, four and two in the division, 621 00:27:30,388 --> 00:27:32,508 Speaker 2: one of those was an overtime loss to Atlanta. So 622 00:27:32,548 --> 00:27:34,508 Speaker 2: I think when they look at that core, there's a 623 00:27:34,548 --> 00:27:36,588 Speaker 2: lot that he can Frank could walk into the building 624 00:27:36,668 --> 00:27:38,388 Speaker 2: and build on and say, hey, guys, this is why 625 00:27:38,428 --> 00:27:41,228 Speaker 2: you should believe that you're able to win. And this 626 00:27:41,308 --> 00:27:43,908 Speaker 2: is before we've even thrown the Brace Young factor and 627 00:27:43,948 --> 00:27:46,108 Speaker 2: if he's even a fraction of what people hope he 628 00:27:46,148 --> 00:27:47,708 Speaker 2: can be. And I don't think he has to do 629 00:27:48,028 --> 00:27:50,108 Speaker 2: everything year one. I mean, he does not have to 630 00:27:50,108 --> 00:27:53,348 Speaker 2: carry this team on his shoulders, especially considering they had 631 00:27:53,348 --> 00:27:55,748 Speaker 2: a quarterback carousel last year. You kind of just have 632 00:27:55,828 --> 00:27:58,068 Speaker 2: to keep the bus rolling there. So I think if 633 00:27:58,108 --> 00:28:00,308 Speaker 2: you look, especially then you look at that division and 634 00:28:00,348 --> 00:28:02,868 Speaker 2: there's so much up people and turnover in that division. 635 00:28:02,868 --> 00:28:06,188 Speaker 2: I mean that's ripe for literally anyone in that division. 636 00:28:06,188 --> 00:28:08,868 Speaker 2: But I like Frank and the Panthers to make some 637 00:28:08,948 --> 00:28:11,108 Speaker 2: noise there. Let's go to our next question. On the 638 00:28:11,508 --> 00:28:14,748 Speaker 2: I Am Athlete podcast, DeVante Adams was asked to name 639 00:28:14,788 --> 00:28:17,428 Speaker 2: his top five wide receivers in the league right now 640 00:28:17,548 --> 00:28:21,028 Speaker 2: and included names like Justin Jefferson, Tyreek Hill, Savan Diggs. 641 00:28:21,148 --> 00:28:23,508 Speaker 2: So we want to take this conversation to all time 642 00:28:23,748 --> 00:28:28,228 Speaker 2: NFL Who was the most underrated wide receiver in NFL history? 643 00:28:28,268 --> 00:28:30,068 Speaker 5: Peter, I could have gone to the fifties or the 644 00:28:30,108 --> 00:28:32,188 Speaker 5: sixties or talk Raymond Berry, but I don't know want 645 00:28:32,188 --> 00:28:32,628 Speaker 5: the audience to. 646 00:28:32,588 --> 00:28:32,908 Speaker 6: Look for that. 647 00:28:32,948 --> 00:28:35,428 Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about guys who are peers of 648 00:28:35,708 --> 00:28:38,708 Speaker 5: your generation. I think an Kwon Bolden is the most 649 00:28:38,828 --> 00:28:42,548 Speaker 5: underrated wide receiver of your generation. What he did over 650 00:28:42,588 --> 00:28:45,068 Speaker 5: the course of his career was so many different teams, 651 00:28:45,348 --> 00:28:49,308 Speaker 5: personified toughness, big game ability, and did it all in 652 00:28:49,348 --> 00:28:52,428 Speaker 5: an understated fashion where it wasn't always going to be 653 00:28:53,228 --> 00:28:55,548 Speaker 5: a drama. Philip Sinker who wasn't getting the ball. Sometimes 654 00:28:55,548 --> 00:28:57,788 Speaker 5: he was the number two on an offense. Sometimes he 655 00:28:57,828 --> 00:28:59,428 Speaker 5: was the number three on an offense. But when it 656 00:28:59,468 --> 00:29:02,308 Speaker 5: mattered most An Kwan Bolden was there. He also caught 657 00:29:02,348 --> 00:29:05,628 Speaker 5: passes as a lion, like as recent as like four 658 00:29:05,708 --> 00:29:07,948 Speaker 5: years ago. Long career and if you take a look 659 00:29:07,988 --> 00:29:09,828 Speaker 5: at the numbers, where does he stand in all time? 660 00:29:09,868 --> 00:29:12,348 Speaker 5: Look at these names, Ryce Fitzgerald who was his teammate, 661 00:29:12,668 --> 00:29:16,708 Speaker 5: So it's Rys Fitzgerald, Harrison, Carter Brown, Owens, then An Kuan. 662 00:29:17,268 --> 00:29:18,868 Speaker 6: His receptions as far as. 663 00:29:19,068 --> 00:29:23,148 Speaker 5: Compiling, adding stacking numbers and Kumbolda never mentioned in the 664 00:29:23,148 --> 00:29:25,388 Speaker 5: same voice as Jerry Reis or Marvin Harrison. 665 00:29:25,428 --> 00:29:27,348 Speaker 6: But gosh, I don't know, put up a Hall of 666 00:29:27,348 --> 00:29:27,708 Speaker 6: Fame career. 667 00:29:27,748 --> 00:29:29,748 Speaker 7: If you ask me, I hated playing against an Quan 668 00:29:29,828 --> 00:29:30,708 Speaker 7: because he was a bully. 669 00:29:30,788 --> 00:29:31,988 Speaker 8: Like he went out there on the field. 670 00:29:31,988 --> 00:29:33,148 Speaker 6: He wanted to push you around. 671 00:29:33,388 --> 00:29:36,308 Speaker 7: Wanted to talk trash. He was a big, strong receiver, 672 00:29:36,588 --> 00:29:39,668 Speaker 7: didn't mind blocking, doing the dirty work going across the middle. 673 00:29:39,828 --> 00:29:42,868 Speaker 7: So one per Quan Bolden, I'm going a little bit 674 00:29:42,908 --> 00:29:45,788 Speaker 7: before my generation, and I remember getting a chance. They 675 00:29:45,788 --> 00:29:48,068 Speaker 7: hear Shannon Sharp in his Hall of Fame speech, and 676 00:29:48,108 --> 00:29:50,268 Speaker 7: he dubbed himself as the only person in the Hall 677 00:29:50,308 --> 00:29:53,388 Speaker 7: of Fame who wasn't the best football player in his 678 00:29:53,588 --> 00:29:57,228 Speaker 7: family because Sterling Sharp, his brother, was a wide receiver 679 00:29:57,548 --> 00:29:59,348 Speaker 7: for the Green Bay Packers and got a chance to 680 00:29:59,428 --> 00:30:01,908 Speaker 7: only play seven years a neck injury. 681 00:30:02,028 --> 00:30:04,388 Speaker 4: But this dude was incredible. And I remember watching that speak. 682 00:30:04,588 --> 00:30:06,068 Speaker 4: I was like, damn, I ain't no, I ain't know 683 00:30:06,148 --> 00:30:06,788 Speaker 4: he had a brother. 684 00:30:06,908 --> 00:30:09,868 Speaker 11: And I went back and watched highlights and started reading 685 00:30:09,908 --> 00:30:13,228 Speaker 11: about Sterling Sharp and the numbers, breaking a single season 686 00:30:13,308 --> 00:30:15,908 Speaker 11: receptions with one hundred and eight yards, then following up 687 00:30:15,948 --> 00:30:18,468 Speaker 11: with one hundred and twelve yards the very next year 688 00:30:18,548 --> 00:30:20,428 Speaker 11: catching passes from Brett Fark. 689 00:30:20,508 --> 00:30:24,548 Speaker 7: This guy was unbelievable. In his seven years. Throughout that span, 690 00:30:24,668 --> 00:30:27,308 Speaker 7: he was second in receptions and second in yards. The 691 00:30:27,348 --> 00:30:30,228 Speaker 7: only receiver who was in front of him Peter Jerry Rice. 692 00:30:30,348 --> 00:30:36,668 Speaker 7: Jerry Rice, My goodness, he was unbelievable for those seven years. 693 00:30:36,868 --> 00:30:40,308 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with somebody a little different. 694 00:30:40,548 --> 00:30:43,788 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to go with Andre Johnson. 695 00:30:43,508 --> 00:30:44,148 Speaker 6: Right about it. 696 00:30:44,308 --> 00:30:46,668 Speaker 3: The reason I'm gonna go with Andre Duncson is because 697 00:30:47,348 --> 00:30:50,428 Speaker 3: I think he's underrated. Is because of the team he 698 00:30:50,508 --> 00:30:53,508 Speaker 3: was on. I mean, Houston had a couple of good seasons, 699 00:30:53,508 --> 00:30:56,708 Speaker 3: but I just can I read a couple of names. 700 00:30:56,828 --> 00:30:58,148 Speaker 4: Just give me a second. 701 00:30:58,588 --> 00:31:03,748 Speaker 3: David Carr, Tony banks Day were good match up save 702 00:31:03,908 --> 00:31:08,628 Speaker 3: rosel Tjy's case, Keenan, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Ryan Malley. Those 703 00:31:08,668 --> 00:31:11,868 Speaker 3: were Andre Johnson's quarterbacks. You know what he did in 704 00:31:11,868 --> 00:31:12,548 Speaker 3: that time frame? 705 00:31:12,708 --> 00:31:13,068 Speaker 4: What do you do? 706 00:31:13,228 --> 00:31:16,548 Speaker 3: He has the most one hundred reception fourteen hundred yard 707 00:31:16,548 --> 00:31:20,108 Speaker 3: seasons in NFL history, over fourteen thousand yards. 708 00:31:20,148 --> 00:31:22,868 Speaker 4: He led the league of receiving yards twice. 709 00:31:23,428 --> 00:31:26,748 Speaker 3: He led the league in receptions twice over that span. 710 00:31:26,828 --> 00:31:28,108 Speaker 4: And this is who's throwing to him. 711 00:31:28,548 --> 00:31:32,748 Speaker 3: Like, if that's underrated with doing that, with who's throwing 712 00:31:32,828 --> 00:31:35,548 Speaker 3: to you in that span, I think Andre Johnson is 713 00:31:35,588 --> 00:31:36,948 Speaker 3: definitely underrated NFL. 714 00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:38,828 Speaker 5: Is it crazy that this guy's not in the Hall 715 00:31:38,868 --> 00:31:40,708 Speaker 5: of Fame. He's had two rounds to go about this 716 00:31:42,388 --> 00:31:45,668 Speaker 5: I'm with you, Larry fitzing him. Yeah, and he's now 717 00:31:45,828 --> 00:31:47,748 Speaker 5: gonna have to wait a third year to get in. 718 00:31:47,788 --> 00:31:49,668 Speaker 7: I think it's the whole time Joeld was talking, I 719 00:31:49,748 --> 00:31:51,948 Speaker 7: was listening, but I'm looking at the screen hoping that 720 00:31:51,988 --> 00:31:58,188 Speaker 7: I'm not on any of the hot Yeah, I know, exactly, Yeah, 721 00:31:58,228 --> 00:32:00,668 Speaker 7: absolutely no, he should be it. 722 00:32:00,708 --> 00:32:02,268 Speaker 2: And because also when you were saying that, and we 723 00:32:02,308 --> 00:32:04,868 Speaker 2: were coming up with this less when you said Andre 724 00:32:04,948 --> 00:32:06,268 Speaker 2: Johnson and I saw on listen, I'm like, but I 725 00:32:06,268 --> 00:32:08,228 Speaker 2: don't think of as underrated in the sense of I 726 00:32:08,268 --> 00:32:10,348 Speaker 2: remember I was back covering the Titans when he was 727 00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:12,228 Speaker 2: in his prime, and I mean, this guy was just 728 00:32:12,228 --> 00:32:14,308 Speaker 2: demolishing everybody all the time. So I didn't think of 729 00:32:14,588 --> 00:32:16,948 Speaker 2: I had for my guy that was underrated. And this 730 00:32:17,028 --> 00:32:18,628 Speaker 2: sort of pairs with what you said about the team 731 00:32:18,668 --> 00:32:21,068 Speaker 2: you were playing on Jimmy Smith with the Jaguars, because 732 00:32:21,068 --> 00:32:22,908 Speaker 2: I think, like, again, I just don't think they get 733 00:32:22,908 --> 00:32:25,708 Speaker 2: a lot of loves down there oftentimes, and they had 734 00:32:25,708 --> 00:32:27,908 Speaker 2: that window, the Mark Brunell window. But I mean, I 735 00:32:27,908 --> 00:32:31,028 Speaker 2: mean he's their career leader and literally everything down there. 736 00:32:31,068 --> 00:32:33,788 Speaker 2: He is mister Jaguar. You know, the stuff that he 737 00:32:33,828 --> 00:32:36,548 Speaker 2: did down in there. So Jimmy Smith was my guy 738 00:32:36,548 --> 00:32:38,228 Speaker 2: because I was again trying to think of and even 739 00:32:38,228 --> 00:32:40,068 Speaker 2: Ankwin Bolden, I think, well, that's a huge name, and 740 00:32:40,108 --> 00:32:41,948 Speaker 2: like I don't know, I don't even think that Jimmy 741 00:32:42,028 --> 00:32:43,988 Speaker 2: and he doesn't have that maybe some of the same numbers, 742 00:32:44,188 --> 00:32:46,188 Speaker 2: but the consistency and the manner in which he did 743 00:32:46,228 --> 00:32:48,548 Speaker 2: that down in Jacksonville for it felt like a really 744 00:32:48,628 --> 00:32:51,868 Speaker 2: long time. I don't know that he's gotten his due. 745 00:32:51,868 --> 00:32:54,548 Speaker 2: So we're giving everyone love this morning on Good Morning Football.