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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay

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Speaker 1: and Book Podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon, and I'm so glad you are tuning

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Speaker 1: in today because I have a friend of mine on

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Speaker 1: and I'm just thrilled to have him. He's great, he's interesting,

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Speaker 1: he's got a fantastic background, and he's done a lot

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Speaker 1: of great stuff. I'm joined by Bruce Leavelle. He's a businessman,

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Speaker 1: a long term political advisor to President Trump, and a

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Speaker 1: contributor at The Washington Times.

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Speaker 2: Bruce, thanks for joining me today.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Tutor, and yeah, hey, I got your your buzzline

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Speaker 3: the Tutor Dixon Show. How's that?

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Speaker 1: I'm going to need you to record that so we

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Speaker 1: can play it before No.

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Speaker 3: Credit, don't sweat it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you well, Bruce.

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Speaker 1: I want to say you and I met years ago

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Speaker 1: when you were first working on I'm I mean, were

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Speaker 1: you started this in twenty fifteen, this political world breaking

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Speaker 1: in with Trump and his campaign, and you came in

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Speaker 1: with a place, I think a place of more knowledge

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Speaker 1: than most people having watched it, having been a small

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Speaker 1: business owner. But what made you say I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go all in and be by his side.

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Speaker 3: Ooh gosh, there's so many. I actually talked about this

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Speaker 3: on CNBC because they were like, Oh, this black guy

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Speaker 3: in the South, what's going on? No, Yeah, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: I just hit twenty nine years last month. My wife

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Speaker 3: and I and our jewelry company, and we're in real

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Speaker 3: estate too, so that's our We built shopping centers and

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Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff like that. But just real quick

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Speaker 3: to your answer, there's thirty point six million small business

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Speaker 3: business owners in the country, the US we're forced to

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Speaker 3: be reckoned with because we are we are a compilation

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Speaker 3: of what sixty two plus percent of the GDP, so

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Speaker 3: we essentially controlled the money, the heart the interesting dynamics

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Speaker 3: of this is where I'm going with this is that.

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Speaker 3: And to the answer your question is why I got involved,

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Speaker 3: I'll just summarize it real quick. The unfortunate part of

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Speaker 3: our leadership Congress, Senate, in some parts of our state house,

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Speaker 3: state Senate, and our local elections have been controlled by

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Speaker 3: special interest and the American public is just going to work,

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Speaker 3: working hard, and what they see when the flyer hits

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Speaker 3: the mail, they don't really know really what's going unless

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Speaker 3: they really dive deep like what we do. And so

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Speaker 3: what happened was, you know, during the financial crash in

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Speaker 3: the subprime and derivatives. Your job is your credit, you

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Speaker 3: know stated income. You know, four hundred credit scores were

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Speaker 3: getting mortgages. It was a catastrophe. But what it did

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Speaker 3: is that it hurt the business community and the commercial

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Speaker 3: community of good standing, good creditor people. So what happened

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Speaker 3: people had no business getting moreags and loans with bad credit.

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Speaker 3: That's another subject. So this is where I'm going. So long,

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Speaker 3: And so essentially, the FDIC sees the banks. And you know,

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Speaker 3: see which bank was being taken over by the FDIC.

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Speaker 3: A lot of small community banks got pulled pushed out,

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Speaker 3: and to your audience, well, I'm sorry, the economy's bad.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness, that is really very smart.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, real talk. So the majority watch this. The majority

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Speaker 3: And for all the viewers, you remember the TARP, it

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Speaker 3: Why did you support Donald Trump? The key message and

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Speaker 3: all the viewers listen carefully, this is what we're dealing

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Speaker 3: I call it, in twenty twenty four, for President Trump,

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Speaker 3: I am not going to be beholding to special interest

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Speaker 3: and pay the play. Now the average person like, okay,

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Speaker 3: that's a SoundBite for a campaign stomp speech whatever, but

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Speaker 3: and many others. But this is where I'm going with this.

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Speaker 3: So when you're free, yes, free, your own business, your

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Speaker 3: And that's quote the great freedom of being self employed

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Speaker 1: I think that what you're saying to me is so

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Speaker 1: interesting because I just watched something with Joe Biden when

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Speaker 1: He didn't come into office wealthy, but he's leaving all.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. I remember one thing that I

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Speaker 1: Lies, almost like that should be out there. It's almost

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Speaker 1: I mean, Greta Witmer flew on a private plane to

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Speaker 1: And then these people, you know, you owe them a favor,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, and it gets back to we the people.

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Speaker 3: You know. It's kind of like people get upset about

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Speaker 3: It's the people in her district that voting are in.

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Speaker 2: But so let me argue one thing.

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Speaker 2: Of these policies that she has.

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Speaker 1: It's these outside groups that are brainwashing people essentially, I

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Speaker 2: But they are.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we're dealing with this in Georgia. You know,

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Speaker 3: I use the term you can park dark money, which

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Speaker 3: Then it just dominoes down. That's why they do that.

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Speaker 3: And so it's sad, it's unfortunate because it's a reality,

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Speaker 3: and that's why you're seeing such a huge cultural war

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Speaker 3: at the school board meetings. But in light of this

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Speaker 3: real quick I'm very optimistic because in January we did

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Speaker 3: swear in some really good solid America First school board

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Speaker 3: members this year in January, remember this movement is still

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Speaker 3: kind of growing. We got a few America First Congressional

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Speaker 3: congress people. Now we all know who they are. Byron's

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Speaker 3: good friend of mine down in Naples, because I have

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Speaker 3: another home in Saint Pete that I'm a Floridian too

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Speaker 3: as well as a Georgian. And there's other good America

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Speaker 3: First Burgess is doing a good job in Utah. You know,

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Speaker 3: we're slowly rising up and trying to you were going

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Speaker 3: to be America first governor in Michigan. I mean, and

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Speaker 3: I don't mean that as a some kind of trunk

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Speaker 3: cult following and all this kind of whatever people trying

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Speaker 3: to put it. No America first means, can we just

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Speaker 3: put America first since we are in these United States,

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Speaker 3: and then after that everything else falls with it.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. What's interesting to me. I was

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Speaker 1: talking to a group of guys, young business owners, and

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Speaker 1: I was talking to them about America First, and I said,

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Speaker 1: you have to understand, having owned a steel foundry and

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Speaker 1: watching steel foundries across the country close, we had American

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Speaker 1: companies who would, even even if they had a ninety

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Speaker 1: percent buy America clause, they were buying ten percent from China.

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Speaker 1: And as those castings were made and we were continually

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Speaker 1: making parts in China, we stopped making enough parts in

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Speaker 1: the United States to stay open. So you were losing

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Speaker 1: all these jobs. But all this knowledge, you don't open

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Speaker 1: a steel foundry overnight. And I said to them, you

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Speaker 1: have to understand, eventually it becomes that that knowledge is gone.

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Speaker 1: And even if you are not in the United States.

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Speaker 1: You have no allies that are making these either, so

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Speaker 1: we're not even thinking about it from the standpoint of well,

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Speaker 1: at least keep it in allied countries. We are now

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Speaker 1: beholden to China to even finish our military vehicles. And

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Speaker 1: they went, oh, I didn't really get that. That's what

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Speaker 1: America First meant. I thought it was just we would

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Speaker 1: only buy from Americans. No, America First is just protecting

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Speaker 1: what we have, protecting our national security, making sure that

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Speaker 1: our purchases are in line with keeping America going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the name of my company is Dunwoody

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Speaker 3: DIAMONDSUSA dot com. And people say, why do you put USA,

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Speaker 3: because my factory is in Doorville, which is five minutes

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Speaker 3: from my main showrooms. We manufacture and we cast. I

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Speaker 3: heard the term cast what you just said. Ere We

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Speaker 3: cast platinum and goals, you know, centrifically and vertical, spend,

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Speaker 3: you know, et cetera, et cetera. We assemble, we set, etc.

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Speaker 3: So we're self sustainable and we manufacture here. Mike Lindell

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Speaker 3: has flown down some off ration. We talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Of course, he tries to promote his things being made

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Speaker 3: in America, but I think, respectfully getting back earlier in

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Speaker 3: this segment, we talked about the quote taxation and regulations,

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Speaker 3: and so when you're overly taxed and overly burdened with regulations,

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Speaker 3: those that watch this, this is true. The first, the

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Speaker 3: first cities and counties that fall have the highest tax burden,

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Speaker 3: the cities that have the best sustainability counties, cities, and

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Speaker 3: punicipalitans who have the lowest tax base can weather the

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Speaker 3: financial down terms or the China buyerus pandemic. Those are

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Speaker 3: the ones that can sustain. And that's that's true, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Fact check me on. This is the economics my wheelhouse.

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Speaker 3: Because when the lower the sales tax, like I think

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Speaker 3: Michigan were y'all nine percent up there, nine six, okay, six,

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Speaker 3: that's good. Here in Decab County were eight percent. The

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Speaker 3: neighboring counties seven percent. But yet the Cab County's government

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Speaker 3: is twice the size as a government next door, but

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Speaker 3: it has fewer population than Gwenette County which is seven percent,

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Speaker 3: and a Cherokee County which is six percent.

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Speaker 1: So and that's what they that's what happens in which

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Speaker 1: the tents all these county and these and these city

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Speaker 1: taxes that they pile on. That's why it is almost

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Speaker 1: it's almost impossible if you are an inner city Detroit

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Speaker 1: because you could never get past the startup cause.

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Speaker 3: I think I looked at that in eighteen. I think

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Speaker 3: they were at forty seven percent based on the debt

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Speaker 3: service when I did a P and L analysis on and.

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Speaker 1: We wonder why these cities are not thriving. We wonder

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Speaker 1: why these cities cannot come back on their own. If

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Speaker 1: build up the city?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's interesting I was in when I

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Speaker 3: was in Birmingham having this roundtable with a ninety nine

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Speaker 3: percent black audience as well as probably ninety percent Democrat audience.

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Speaker 3: Is the fact that when I said this, I said,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you're pushing back low milite rates, low

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Speaker 3: sales tax I mean, run it real skinny, you know,

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Speaker 3: I mean skinny. Obviously two things infrastructure, which is roads, lights,

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Speaker 3: and of course police, public safe. That's it. All the

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Speaker 3: other extra programs puts an unnecessary debt service on the taxpayers.

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Speaker 3: And then these politicians come in and says we're going

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Speaker 3: to create jobs. No, ma'am, no sir. The only way

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Speaker 3: you create jobs, I'm the one that does that. When

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Speaker 3: you minimize my tax baith as well as the Trump is.

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Speaker 3: You saw the Trump tax cuts in twenty seventeen. You

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Speaker 3: notice the FIKA and all the viewers when you get

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Speaker 3: your check it has FIKA. When you hear government, you know,

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Speaker 3: screaming in DC, Senate and Congress yelling about that, that's

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Speaker 3: what they're yelling about, that fika just for FYI. So

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Speaker 3: that lower that number, the more money is back into

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Speaker 3: your wallet, which is discretionary income. You have more money

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Speaker 3: to go get uh, you know, to an eatery that

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Speaker 3: you generally wouldn't go, and you can push the economy

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Speaker 3: faster because there's more discretionary money. Employers as your family,

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Speaker 3: myself can incentivize our employees because there's more money to

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Speaker 3: give them instead of giving it to the government. And

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Speaker 3: this is the this is getting back to that curse again,

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Speaker 3: that generational curse. Government is to save all fixed al

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Speaker 3: It is a it is a deep rooted spirit tutor

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Speaker 3: and it has to have an extracism. I'm just going

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Speaker 3: to put it to you like that in order to

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Speaker 3: extract that thought process, especially in a lot of the

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Speaker 3: prenominantly brown communities. I hate to say it that way.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that goes back to just the beginning of

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Speaker 1: all of this, where you said, find out what lobbyists

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Speaker 1: they are working with, find out what money they're getting,

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Speaker 1: because all of those extra taxes are coming from somebody

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Speaker 1: who said, well, we can do this, and we can

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Speaker 1: do that. And if you look, if you peel back

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Speaker 1: the layers of the onion, you will find things about

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Speaker 1: people that you have supported, or people even those that

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Speaker 1: you didn't support, that you should share with your friends.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can be that person that is exposing

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Speaker 1: what's actually going on. And we're talking about this in

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Speaker 1: Michigan right now, so we don't even have you can't

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Speaker 1: even foia the legislature or the governor here. There is

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Speaker 1: secrecy all around all of the deals, the tax deals

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Speaker 1: that go to these big businesses. They're all under a

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Speaker 1: non disclosure agreement. So I mean, it is, it is

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Speaker 1: truly shocking, and I honestly I'd love to have you

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Speaker 1: back to talk more about this stuff because I think

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Speaker 1: that you have a unique perspective. I hear that you're

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Speaker 1: coming to Detroit. I'd love to see if there's anything

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Speaker 1: that I can do while you're there, but i'd love

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Speaker 1: to talk again and have you just explain how some

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Speaker 1: of these things are going and how we reach some

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Speaker 1: of these communities, not only minority communities, but suburban moms.

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Speaker 1: They don't seem to We don't seem to be reaching them.

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Speaker 1: And I think we're expecting on the conservative side for

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Speaker 1: these folks to come to us. We need to learn

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Speaker 1: to go to them and talk to them about what

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Speaker 1: we can do. So hopefully you can teach us. We'd

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Speaker 1: love to have you back. Brucelle. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for being on.

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Speaker 3: Thanks thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Oh I love having you. I love having conversations with you.

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Speaker 1: You're so much fun and you're just a great father,

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Speaker 1: a great businessman.

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Speaker 2: So thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Wife.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're all trying right hopefully, great wife.

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Speaker 3: Oh so sweet, thirty one years.

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Speaker 1: That is so sweet, and that and strong families are

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Speaker 1: what it's all about. Thank you so much, and thank

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Speaker 1: you all for joining me on the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 1: For this episode and others, go to Tutor dixonpodcast dot com.

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