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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt A rainy Wednesday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: know that's spring titan weather right right.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't mind either. Uh So it got me

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Speaker 3: to uh thinking more draft stuff today. Yeah, yeah, So

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Speaker 3: one of the things that I wanted to go through

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Speaker 3: and look at today to start off the show. Matt

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Speaker 3: I mentioned last week. I believe that if the Steelers

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Speaker 3: had lost their final three games to finish seven and

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Speaker 3: seven and ten some.

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Speaker 1: Were kind of pushing for at the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I heard more than from more than one person, right,

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Speaker 3: they would have been picking twelfth in the draft. As

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Speaker 3: it is, they're picking twentieth, gotcha.

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Speaker 1: So I thought we'd look.

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Speaker 3: Through some of the past twelve verse twenties, look at

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Speaker 3: twelves versus twenties, give people an idea of well, twelve

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Speaker 3: is certainly better than twenty, not always.

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Speaker 1: Not always, and we often do say there's usually more

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Speaker 1: than twelve and less than twenty first rounders, no matter what.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't mean everybody else is going to get it right

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Speaker 3: and take that now.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't order that those guys all hit or any of

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Speaker 1: those things, or all of a sudden you're in franchise

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Speaker 1: quarterback neighborhood or anything like that too, I mean, without questioning.

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Speaker 1: But no, that's that's cool.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So twenty twenty three, the twelfth overall pick in

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Speaker 3: the draft was Jamior Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and been quite successful and they're still kicking

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Speaker 1: and he's a major part of it. They were scrutinized

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Speaker 1: a little to time how you're taking a running back

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Speaker 3: The picks right after him we should make.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we should mention what eleven at thirteen or

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Speaker 3: So at thirteen was Lucas Fan Ness, Broderick Jones at

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Speaker 3: fourteen to the Steelers. They traded up Will McDonald at fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hasn't been great, hasn't been great, rotational player for them,

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Speaker 1: Emmanual sam van Ness by the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Emmanuel Forbes at sixteen, the bench at one point, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Christin Gonzalez at seventeen, which is where the Steelers would

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Speaker 3: have been.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before they train up. He looked great before he

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Speaker 1: got hurt, So that looks like a good pick.

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Speaker 3: Jack Campbell at eighteen, then very up and down, Elijah

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Speaker 3: Cansei at nineteen. He did not fit the Steelers defense, folks, No,

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Speaker 3: not at.

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Speaker 1: All, not at all. I mean he's very small, and

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Speaker 1: he came on strong at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him, pit guy, all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: You're four to three guys, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he wouldn't have been a fit here.

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Speaker 3: And the twentieth pick in last year's draft was Jackson

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Speaker 1: We were shocked. He fell that far and looks good.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's fighting for you know, playing time obviously

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Speaker 1: with Lockett, but I heard it might be a cap

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Speaker 1: casualty by the way. Side note and Metcalf so a

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Speaker 1: lot of changes going on in Seattle too, but he's

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Speaker 1: part of the future. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The picture right after that were Quentin Johnston, Jay Flowers,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Addison. That was the receiver. Yeah in Johnston and

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Speaker 1: So okay, there were still some good players. Oh yeah, yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Twenty twenty two, the twelfth overall pick was Jameis

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Speaker 1: Okay, Now he's a tough one yeacause part of me

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Speaker 3: A true offering camp. This year.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was suspended going into the season and wasn't.

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Speaker 3: He was able to take part in training camp, and

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Speaker 1: The free season. Yeah right, you're right, and then he

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't play that much for the Lions even No, No.

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Speaker 3: The thirteenth pick was Jordan Davis.

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Speaker 1: It's been kind of a disappoint Yeah, it's funny because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he can handle.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen was Kyle Hamilton. He's been great, that's been good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a safety. I mean, like if you

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Speaker 1: take a safety at fourteen or a guard he'd been

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Speaker 1: on in the top half of round one, you know

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Speaker 3: Well, in fifteen was Kenyan Green m.

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Speaker 1: He's another bit of a kind of an incomplete thing.

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Speaker 1: He's been on field hardly at all, but it's not

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Speaker 1: looking great. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen was John Dotson Okay, Seventeen it was Zion Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen was Treylon Burks.

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Speaker 1: Problematic that could have been and a J. Brown just

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Speaker 3: Nineteen was Trevor Penning not great either, Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we know how that went. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Right after that was Trent McDuffie.

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Speaker 1: He's in phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: Kway Walker, he didn't have he never just still two

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Speaker 1: McDuffie doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, kway Walker, Kyrie Elam, Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Smith and the twenty five Leonderbaums quickly becoming one

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Speaker 1: twenty ish really wasn't worse than twelve, No, I mean

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Speaker 1: there was maybe better better how it turned back, right,

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Speaker 3: Was twenty down yep, in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: And folks, we're not saying you're a better chance of

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Speaker 1: getting a better player right at all? Right, just how

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Speaker 3: Uh? In twenty twenty one, Well, twelve was Michael Parsons, Wow, okay,

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Speaker 3: right after Justin Fields at eleven really good draft to

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Speaker 3: thirteen was Rashawn Slate, great. Fourteen was Elijah Vera Tucker.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen was Mac Jones, Oh look good after a Yeah,

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Speaker 3: sixteen was Avon Collins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just Arizona drafting weird linebackers for three out

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Speaker 3: Seventeen was Alex Leatherwood.

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Speaker 1: Wow, one of the worst first round picks in a

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Speaker 3: He's with U Chicago.

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Speaker 1: That's who picked him up after he got cut. Maybe Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips at eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Good if he can stay healthy.

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Speaker 3: Jam And Davis at nineteen Yeah, so so but not great.

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Speaker 3: Twenty Kdarius Tony.

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Speaker 3: No, that's a there's there's a lot of there's some

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Speaker 3: really good players here. There's some swings of missus too.

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Speaker 3: Right after Tony was taken. Twenty one was Kid Quitty

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Speaker 1: The guys you got with this fifth year option. Conversation

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Speaker 1: with this class. Yeah, like probably not gonna pick him up.

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Speaker 3: Twenty two was Christian darrisaw really good. Twenty three, I'm

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Speaker 3: sorry that was twenty three. Twenty four was Najie.

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Speaker 1: Harris, Okay, yeah, we know how that went.

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Speaker 3: Twenty five was Travis atn Greg nws him at twenty six,

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Speaker 3: and then Rashad Bateman and Peyton Turner.

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Speaker 1: Like and the first round was good knock great?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh, looking at twenty twenty, the twelfth overall pick

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Speaker 1: Nobody went crazy when that pick happened, though, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we didn't know what he's gonna do off the

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Speaker 1: field and all those things. But there were better receivers too.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen was Tristian Wurf's great Wow.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen was Yvonne Kinlaw.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, never has worked out forty nine.

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Speaker 3: Ers don't necessarily draft real well.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think they're a great drafting team at all.

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Speaker 1: I mean taking Bosa wasn't hard, no, any Yeah, right

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Speaker 1: after kin Law was Jerry Judy. I wouldn't say that's

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Speaker 3: No. Then aj Terrell went at sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I would say that's a hit. I mean he's had

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Speaker 3: Seventeen ced Lamb Wow.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen was Austin Jackson. Remember that's where the Steelers would

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Speaker 1: Minka Oh okay, okay, Yeah that's.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen Damon Arnett.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's in the league either. No, you

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Speaker 1: would almost take greater drafts out of this. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean rugs Arnett, who was the one Leatherwood. I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: you can't miss on picks any worse than that.

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Speaker 3: Twenty was Cleon Chase On.

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Speaker 1: He has not been a hit at all either.

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Speaker 3: The next guy, yeah. Twenty one Jalen Rager twenty two

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of disclaimer. How do you take

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Speaker 1: Reger over Jefferson? You know?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean somebody took they took Jerry Judy over

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Speaker 3: Ceede Lamb.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I can't lie. I thought

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Speaker 1: Reager was a better prospect than Jefferson on that day,

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Speaker 1: but I was wrong too.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three was Kenneth Murray, twenty four, Caesar Ruiz twenty five,

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Speaker 3: brand Than Ayuk. There's actually three really good receivers in that. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: and a couple of misses and a couple of misses Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean Rugs and Judy so so and yeah. Twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: the twelfth overall pick was Forshaun Geary.

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Speaker 1: Took him a while, but he's starting to really. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He's kind of went like Bud Dupree like in his career.

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Speaker 1: They signed him a big contract. They're happy with him.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player.

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Speaker 3: Thirteen was Christian Wilkins, real good player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen Chris Linstrom one of the best guards in the league. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen Dwayne Haskins.

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Speaker 1: No, that went, I mean, yeah, unfortunate, but he was

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Speaker 1: not playing well before. Yeah, passing away.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen Brian Burns, huh, very happy with that. Seventeen money

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Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen, the twelfth overall pick was Vita Vea nice.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen was JayR Alexander.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, Bengals man, that was a big time bud.

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Speaker 3: He stinks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's in the league.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he is.

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Speaker 1: That's not that long ago.

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Speaker 3: Rashaan Evans went at twenty two, Isaiah Win at twenty three,

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Speaker 3: Now, not at all. No at twenty four? Was DJ

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think I've told this story, but it's not Belichick.

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Speaker 3: You know. Calvin Ridley went at twenty six that year

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Speaker 3: Right, fourteen, Derek Barnett fifteen, Malee Cooker sixteen, Marlon Humphrey

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Speaker 1: That was a three tight ends in round one pick yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tech McKinley, McKinley, Yeah, there's three or four of them.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly and Matt. We went over the

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Speaker 3: Steelers unrestricted free agency list. For this year. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: Now I want to go through the list for next year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and let's talk about.

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Speaker 3: Who we might want to extend this offseason.

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Speaker 1: That's tremendous. I have a couple things I can throw

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Speaker 1: I have no clue. A lot of teams or at

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Round one's a little different, but a lot of times

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Speaker 3: I believe he signed a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: That's cool, Soul.

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Speaker 3: I haven't gotten to the secondary yet, but I just

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Speaker 1: You know HeLa on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: Basically, what I did was anybody who played a reason

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Speaker 1: I mean, Like, or if you go get a lower

443
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: level dude, or if you make an Alan Robinson type trade.

444
00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,120
Speaker 3: You know, like, well, they've been signing guys to two

445
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,199
Speaker 3: and three year deals, are creating they don't really They

446
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 3: never like to do a one year deals necessarily unless

447
00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:59,800
Speaker 3: it's bottom of the roster type.

448
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still in guys right right, if it was

449
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,160
Speaker 1: a big money one.

450
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 3: That goes back. I mean that was a Kevin Colbert

451
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: thing that they never wanted to just do it one

452
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 3: year deal with the guy they always preferred to at least.

453
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,120
Speaker 1: Two and Omar has been really good at being able

454
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 1: to get out of that second year if you want,

455
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: and you know, it's not like it's super binding.

456
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, h Cam Hayward M.

457
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 1: I think the question with him is would you like

458
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: to put one more year on the end of it.

459
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm not saying force him to make a pay cut.

460
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 1: That's not the right way of structuring it.

461
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 3: I think you well, with the now voidable everybody using

462
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:40,080
Speaker 3: the voidable years, you can easily easily lower that cap hit.

463
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 1: Now so you could borrow from the Bank of Cam

464
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 1: and still think you get two years out of them. Yeah, yeah,

465
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 1: I think that's logical.

466
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 3: Actually, the age is listed here now that I look

467
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: at this, are what they'll be at the end of

468
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: next year when this when the contracts up, because Kam's

469
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 3: listed at thirty five point eight almost thirty six, So

470
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 3: I mean that's going to largely to me. I think

471
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: you give him. I think you could easily extend his

472
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 3: contract another year, give.

473
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: Him a nice bonus. Now he'd be happy with that.

474
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,400
Speaker 1: Doesn't make a lot.

475
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: Lower's his cap hit for twenty twenty, twenty twenty four,

476
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 3: and yeah, everybody's happy.

477
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense, and you make some caps face.

478
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alan Robinson, Well, I think Alan Robinson's gonna.

479
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: Get I don't think he'll be around for this year.

480
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we don't do chuokes of corps for

481
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: kind of the same thing with him.

482
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,360
Speaker 1: James Daniels still a lot younger than you think.

483
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 3: He'll be twenty seven and a half years old at

484
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 3: the end of next season.

485
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: I would talk extension, I think right now. Yeah, I mean,

486
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: that'd be a third contract for him already. Good for him.

487
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 3: That's why I actually talked to him about that. I

488
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: did a big feature on him last offseason, and one

489
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,359
Speaker 3: of the things I spoke to his dad, and that

490
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: was one of the reasons why he came out when

491
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,479
Speaker 3: he did. I'm sure he was twenty years old when

492
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: he came out, and the same thing with HR four,

493
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 3: But sure Daniels was twenty years old when he when

494
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 3: he declared for the draft, and that was one of

495
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: the reasons why he did it. His dad was a

496
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 3: former NFL player, and he said, we talked about it,

497
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 3: and I said, if you do this now, if you

498
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 3: go pro now, you'll get three pretty good contracts.

499
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: And are good. Yeah. Right, you're gonna get three nice

500
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: signing bonuses and three more than one term, you know,

501
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: one year deals probably.

502
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: And he's been good, and I.

503
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: Don't think he'd break the back to do it now. No,

504
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: it seems comfortable here. He's young, you know, right, No,

505
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 1: extending him makes a lot of sense.

506
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 3: Uh, Patrick Peterson by that time he almost thirty five, right,

507
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: Mason Cole, I don't know that he's going to be

508
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 3: around Nate Herbig. He'll be twenty six.

509
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to worry about that yet.

510
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: And a half years old. You're not going to do Yeah,

511
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 3: you're not going to do that.

512
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean you're happy he's back for next year.

513
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets thrust into playing time that any of

514
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: those three positions and blows your doors off and you

515
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: send them or whatever, you know.

516
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: Uh, and Landon Roberts, He'll don't think you've talk basically

517
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: thirty one. Yeah, you're not gonna You're not going to

518
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: talk extension. You could go to year to year with him.

519
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're happy he's back. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.

520
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 3: Najie Harris, we've already talked about that one fifth year,

521
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 3: probably pick up the option.

522
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: That's six point six million, folks. That's a nice deal.

523
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 3: For him, yeah, KZ and Kean O'Neil no, Pat Fryarmouth.

524
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: I think that's a yes.

525
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 3: That's a yes. He'll still be twenty six.

526
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you sign him to a long term

527
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: I would think a three year deal or something along

528
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: those lines, and you might be able to buy a

529
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: little low on him. I mean, his stats aren't great

530
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: this past year. Obviously, he hasn't been a pillar of durability.

531
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: But we've talked about this a lot. I mean, I

532
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: think it's changing in the NFL that young tight ends

533
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: are starting to produce more than ever. But historically age

534
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: twenty sevens when they hit their prime, and he's not

535
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: even there yet, you know, right, Yeah, Dan Moore, No,

536
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean you could get him on a good deal,

537
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 1: I'm sure right now. Yeah. I mean I'd love to

538
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: have him as like the next three years as my

539
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: spot Starter slash sixth guy, you know, on a stacked line.

540
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: But I don't think you have to do anything.

541
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: About him now, Isaiah Loudermilk, that's a no. Karen Johnson,

542
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: that's a no. Press Harvin, that's a no.

543
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: Correct.

544
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: You know, Jalen Warren will be a restricted free agent.

545
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: See that. It's almost kind of chintzy. But a guy

546
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: like him hasn't made any money.

547
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: He hasn't made any money.

548
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: Here's the thing that I know.

549
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: Jalen Warren and Najia Harris came into the league a

550
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: year apart in terms of age. Though they're the same age,

551
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: they were the same high school class. In fact, when

552
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 3: I wrote the story about Jalen Warren, they were the

553
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 3: two and it was them those two and Dobbins, right

554
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: and no DeAndre Swift Swift? Where the where the All

555
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: Americans for? They were like the five stars, Yeah they were.

556
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: They were the All American running backs for I can't

557
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 3: remember what whatever. So he's he'll be twenty six, so

558
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 3: he's the same high school class as Yeah, but I

559
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: would I would reward that guy.

560
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's up after Maybe I'm not going to

561
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: do it now. If you did it now and just

562
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: put game a two year deal, you could do that.

563
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's probably going to cost you more money

564
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: next year though, that's the problem unless you can structure that.

565
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: That's what he omar cons you can.

566
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's that's his specialty. Obviously that taught us to,

567
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: you know, how to figure out the contract.

568
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 3: But but he's definitely a guy that's went around.

569
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. They often do those things in

570
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: the middle of time.

571
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 4: They did it with Willie Parker, the similar situation, similar situation,

572
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 4: you know, but Parker was the unquestioned starter at that point,

573
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 4: and they you know, he was an exclusive rights free agent,

574
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: and they just tore it up and said, hey, we're

575
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 4: going to give you a new contract.

576
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 3: You've you've outplayed.

577
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that see. I could see that with Warren,

578
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: especially if you get to keep them one more year

579
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: than this. I'm not great with the numbers, but five

580
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: million dollars signing bonus, you don't think the Warren family

581
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: would be like, wow, you know, that's life changing money.

582
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: And he hasn't made life changing money.

583
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 3: No, No, there's no, he hasn't made five million dollars

584
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 3: to this point in his career. You know, basically he's

585
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 3: probably I think he got a five thousand or fifteen

586
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 3: thousand dollars signing bonus to sign with that right, it's

587
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: not you know, and that's why when they were hitting

588
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: him with those fines, those fines, Yeah, it's costing him

589
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 3: money to play those games.

590
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like these guys that haven't made anything,

591
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: I think you can take advantage as a rough word,

592
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: because he'd gladly.

593
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: Do it throwing. Yeah, you're throwing them a good number,

594
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: you know, good.

595
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

596
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 3: It's it's a position where quite frankly, it's it's one

597
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 3: of the big problems that I have with the running

598
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: back position in the NFL. Unless you're a first round pick,

599
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 3: you're kind of getting used in abused.

600
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: Look at Austin Eckler's career has been one of the

601
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: best backs in the last ten years. He's made nothing

602
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,239
Speaker 1: because he was an undrafted guy Like this, I mean,

603
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: this depends how you come into the league. I mean

604
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: he signed him Warren like contract right off the bat.

605
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'd love to not worry about running back

606
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: for two years. I mean that's rare in this league.

607
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: They both could break down. I mean that position is hard,

608
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: but I think you extend them.

609
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: Then you got Rodney Williams, Well, you know, we'll see. Sure,

610
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 3: they had three exclusive rights free agents, so these guys

611
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: really can't go anywhere. But you have to decide whether

612
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 3: you want to pick up the contract. It is Rodney Williams,

613
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: Trent and Thompson Darius Rush. Yeah, yeah, I mean those

614
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: guys are being written.

615
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm happy they'll be in camp next year

616
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: go from there. Yeah yeah. I mean Williams was really

617
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: good on special teams.

618
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: He really was. I mean he caught her eye throughout

619
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 3: training camp as well.

620
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, he might make the team next year.

621
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, get bigger and stronger, but does that take away

622
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: some of the athleticism that he has.

623
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was shocked how many special teams tackles he

624
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: ended up with.

625
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 3: He made some big plays and a lot of plays

626
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: on take plays.

627
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: You know.

628
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 3: That's why you know he got caught. He initially came

629
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: up when Friarmouth got hurt because they wanted the third

630
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 3: tight end. They never dumped and he was so good

631
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: on special teams. Yeah, They're like, we got to keep them.

632
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: He carried forth tight ends all season long because of that.

633
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: Because of that, right, So he may be It's always

634
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,479
Speaker 1: a hard thing to judge, but I mean, who the

635
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: best of the core special teams he might be on.

636
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: He might be because he didn't because of the he wasn't

637
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 3: active the first few weeks of the season, didn't have

638
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 3: the special team snaps overall that everybody else did. Right,

639
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: But I'll bet if you broke it down per.

640
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: Game snap or whatever, I bet he's right to bet

641
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,719
Speaker 1: he's at the top of the list. Yeah. Good, Yeah,

642
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: that was kind of my point. Yeah, one hundred percent.

643
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: And he isn't big, but he's not bashful about blocking

644
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 1: on offense. No, that's he's got the toughness too.

645
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: It comes from a running offense in college.

646
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: And Trenton Thompson got a chance, and I think we're

647
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: all kind of excited to see if rush turns into something,

648
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: you know, so they're all valuable.

649
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: So basically what he came up with was James Daniels

650
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 3: and and maybe maybe something with Warren.

651
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you consider tacking one more year on Deontay's.

652
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 3: I would think I would consider it.

653
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean depends crazy talk.

654
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: I think it would largely depend on what you're able

655
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: to accomplish in this draft.

656
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be a training camp thing. Yeah, I

657
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: mean a lot of stuff doesn't have to happen anytime soon. Yeah, boy,

658
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: we're lowing money. Let's move some of Deontay's money around.

659
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: Put a next year that would allow you to do

660
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Speaker 3: that too, like tack on a maybe even two years.

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Speaker 3: He's again, he'll be twenty eight at the end of

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Speaker 3: the next season.

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Speaker 1: In the next season, okay, yeah, that's I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 1: happening up until his age thirty year. And you know,

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Speaker 1: if you can similar deal.

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Speaker 3: Could still be a tradable commodity too.

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Speaker 1: True.

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Speaker 3: True, if it gets down.

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Speaker 1: To it, I know his name's I'm thrown around is

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Speaker 1: you could maybe trade for him. I'd have to give

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Speaker 1: up a lot to move him, because I mean, I

672
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Speaker 1: think they need a receiver. I don't want to need to.

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Speaker 3: Know what are you going to get in return?

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Speaker 1: That's the I mean, you're not Gonnet first, and I

675
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Speaker 1: don't think a third makes it worth my time. No.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you'd free up some cap space, but

677
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna go sign Michael Pittman.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't even know how much cap space

679
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Speaker 3: you would I don't either. I have to look at

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Speaker 3: his contract here, I mean his base salary in twenty

681
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 3: twenty three eight million, So you're not.

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Speaker 1: He's worth more than that. Yeah, but on game day,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you'd only be freeing up basically ten million dollars.

685
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Speaker 3: That's ten million dollars need to free up that much money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. No, but I'd love to

687
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Speaker 1: see that receiver room is maybe him with a slight

688
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Speaker 1: extension pickings and entering his prime and day two rookie

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Speaker 1: or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean as much. I mean, if you if you

691
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Speaker 3: need to save money in the receiver's room, you end

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Speaker 3: up cutting Allan Robins, I.

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Speaker 1: Think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his his base sellers ten million next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they knew that today they traded for

696
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Speaker 1: and that was part of the deal.

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Speaker 3: They he knew that they redid the contract and make

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Speaker 3: it that way to make this a one year deal

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Speaker 3: for him. So and he still got his money from

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Speaker 3: the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's he's doing okay, you won't think about that. So,

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Speaker 1: oh you caught him in a bad blood blow. You know,

703
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Speaker 1: he's he can still resign him if you want. He's

704
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Speaker 1: going to be a free agent. Like anybody says, hey, Alan,

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Speaker 1: we love you.

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Speaker 3: You had you played a lot of snaps for us

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Speaker 3: this year, but.

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Speaker 1: We'll give you two million a years come back.

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Speaker 3: We can't pay you ten million dollar blocking wide receiver now,

710
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: absolutely not now.

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Speaker 1: And the whole world knows he's gonna get caught. I

712
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Speaker 1: mean he knews that the day he got traded. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, but that doesn't have to play this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but he'll probably be a football player in twenty twenty four. Thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyways, that's the group there.

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Speaker 1: You always have to be looking at that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get through another break. Here. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to the Drive. You're on

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 3: Williamson and Madam. I was watching and I must be

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Speaker 3: a glutton for punishment, but I was watching Get Up

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Speaker 3: this Morning while I was every morning when I get up,

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Speaker 3: I kind of I get at the network. Yeah, So

728
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Speaker 3: I get up and I start, I get my laptop,

729
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Speaker 3: I have my breakfast, my morning diet, Coke to get

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Speaker 3: my role in there, and I watch I'll throw something

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Speaker 3: on just to make sure I get all the news.

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Speaker 1: Of the day, and I'm going to pay attention.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to watch Sports Center, because hey, they

734
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: even do Sports Center anymore. But I don't need to

735
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: see all the hockey highlights and right right right hockey

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Speaker 3: and everything that's going on in the w NB. I

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Speaker 3: don't need to see all that stuff. I just want

738
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Speaker 3: to see the football news anyway. So I'm watching the

739
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Speaker 3: Morning and they're talking about Jim Harbaugh closing in on

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Speaker 3: the deal with the with the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers, it sounds like they're talking as we speak.

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Speaker 3: Supposedly, and I can't remember. It might have been Peter

743
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: Schrager said, boy, this is really bad news for the Chiefs.

744
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 3: The for the Chiefs, the Raiders and the Broncos that

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Speaker 3: that Jim Harbaugh's coming to their their division. And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: he's like, he'll he'll turn them into a winner right

747
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: away and they'll be they'll be I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Really, did they say the same thing when they traded

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Speaker 1: for Sean Payton. I mean, Sean Payton's had more success

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Speaker 1: in the NFL than Harbaugh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're both big dog coaches with big profiles,

753
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: and he's won everywhere he's gone, going back to San

754
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Speaker 1: Diego State, but that is it.

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Speaker 3: He's won.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of work to be done on

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Speaker 1: that team. Okay, so deal with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: It made me look here. His first year in San

759
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Speaker 3: Francisco was twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember if he took over Singletary, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Things Singletary and then Thomas Sola was the was the interim. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, So they went from being six and ten

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Speaker 3: now they had been in two thousand and nine and

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Speaker 3: eight and eighteen. They went from seven to nine to

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Speaker 3: eight and eight, to drop back to six and ten,

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Speaker 3: then they go to thirteen and three his first year,

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Speaker 3: his first year, it's eleven and four and one, twelve

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Speaker 3: and four and then eight and eight. Then he left

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Speaker 3: and then he left like so to say, oh, he's gonna,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna.

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Speaker 1: They were pretty miserable when he took over though.

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Speaker 3: They were six and ten and coming off in eight

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Speaker 3: and eight.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, I just remember the Singletary years being

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Speaker 1: kind of embarrassed.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I get it, so he was he

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Speaker 3: was a legitimate coach. I'm not saying he's.

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Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, yeah, I don't think you are right.

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Speaker 3: You know, but just to put him in the same

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Speaker 3: to talk about him like he's Bear Bryan or something.

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Speaker 1: No, right, right, right now. I think he's very impressive

782
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Speaker 1: in one at San Diego State right away. One at

783
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Speaker 1: Stanford turned.

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Speaker 3: Mission at San Diego State.

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Speaker 1: I think that's where he started.

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Speaker 3: In this coaching record. He started at Stanford.

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Speaker 1: As his first ever head gig. Yeah, I thought he

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Speaker 1: had some smaller schools first.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying Stanford here first. So at Stanford he went

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Speaker 3: four and eight his first year, he went five and

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Speaker 3: seven his second year, by the way, yeah, the third

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Speaker 3: year eight and five. Then it was twelve and one. Okay,

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Speaker 3: again you had Andrew Locke. Then it was ten and three,

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Speaker 3: by the way, eight and five, ten and three. And

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Speaker 3: this is when he goes he goes to Michigan after

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Speaker 3: the U leif Stanford goes to the NFL, jumps nine ers,

797
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Speaker 3: jumps back to Michigan. Now mind you, this is Michigan, sure,

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Speaker 3: this is This was always my thing about rich Rodriguez Whenez,

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Speaker 3: Like they're coming off a nine and four season, they've

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Speaker 3: got it's Michigan. They've got top recruits all over the

801
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Speaker 3: place coming in and rich Rod comes in and says, no, no,

802
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Speaker 3: we got to run my system. That was so foolish, right,

803
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: and they you know, they just stunk. Uh. So Harbaugh

804
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Speaker 3: comes in Michigan, he goes ten and three, ten and three,

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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, eight and five, took a step back.

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Speaker 1: I think he lost Ohio State all three years too.

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Speaker 3: Oh his bull records awful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's five and seven in bowls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then he went ten and three again. Then he

810
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Speaker 3: went nine to four. Then in twenty twenty the COVID

811
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Speaker 3: season went to and four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, forget about that year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, six, And now the last three years have been good.

814
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Speaker 3: They've they've three three combined losses the last three years.

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Speaker 1: But he's brought them back to being a powerhouse.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they ever left. Really, if I

817
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Speaker 3: look at the years.

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Speaker 1: That's such a weird school because he don't beat Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: you staying.

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Speaker 3: I understand that, And for a long time he didn't beat.

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Speaker 1: Right and now he's started to get the upper hand

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Speaker 1: on Ohio State and then.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna he's gonna jump ship. But we also foind

824
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Speaker 3: out he was cheating.

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Speaker 1: There's I think there's more to that than people want

826
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Speaker 1: to talk about too.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he would be beating feet out of

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Speaker 3: Michigan after winning the National championship, right if he had

829
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Speaker 3: been suspended twice.

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Speaker 1: Somebody hot on his heel thing. Yeah. No, that's a

831
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Speaker 1: great point too. I think he's a great hire for

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Speaker 1: any NFL team, give or take. Especially I think the

833
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: Chargers are frustrating in that they've always had quarterbacks and

834
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: they never win. And I think that he could jumpstart

835
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Speaker 1: a team. But I also think he is a not

836
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Speaker 1: for long guy. You know, anyone that's been around him says,

837
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna be kind, he can wear on you. Yeah.

838
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Speaker 1: I mean, he's hard to be around, and he's like

839
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Speaker 1: the most competitive human being on the planet and his bonkers.

840
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: So that's great if you can get that team back

841
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Speaker 1: to winning.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, we've talked about the Chargers job.

843
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: They're a ridiculous amount of money over the cap for

844
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Speaker 3: next year.

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Speaker 1: It's not a great Herbert's you only bought positive of

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Speaker 1: the job. You're gonna hesitate to bring this up because

847
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: but several quote insiders in the know have said that

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Speaker 1: when he goes to the Pros he wants to bring

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Speaker 1: McCarthy him, which he adores. He loves McCarthy or whatever

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00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: and all that adored Herbert too. Otherwise, wouldn't hire him

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00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: for that job. If he's telling the Chargers, I'm going

852
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: to take my guy from Michigan with the fifth overall

853
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: pick and trade Herbert, I'd be like Jim or John

854
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: or I would got to.

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00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: Mix up, like, sorry, dude, you're not our guy.

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Speaker 1: That's insanity, you know. So I hope he doesn't take

857
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: it that far. But they've been linked together that he

858
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: would love to coach McCarthy in the next time.

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Speaker 3: That's great, good for him, that's part of the loot.

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Speaker 3: Take him in the first round, yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: Trade Herbert to the Steelers or whoever you know, right,

862
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: anyone will take him off your hands. But he rubs

863
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: people wrong. I don't think the chief should be shaking

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Speaker 1: in their boots.

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Speaker 3: That's that was my first Yeah, Well, the Chiefs have

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. I don't think I think they'll be okay,

867
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Speaker 3: and they and they even Reid stuff. I don't think

868
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 3: they'll be real scared of the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean they they're they're a year away from

870
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Speaker 1: being a year away probably. I mean they're going to

871
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Speaker 1: need a year of cap and then start maybe two

872
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: years maybe two you know. I Meanwhile, your quarterback's sticking,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and his contract and it's about the balloon. Yeah,

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00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: I mean, if you start looking at their.

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Speaker 1: Roster, oh the huge contractor crazy.

877
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Speaker 3: It's insane what they're paying.

878
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: You know. This is if you wanted Keenan Allen or

879
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: via trade you could get him.

880
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 3: This is just a bad build, Like, look at all.

881
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 1: The ones that are ten million are over. Khalil Mack, right,

882
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: him and Bosa.

883
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: Thirty eight point five million dollars next.

884
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Year, and he had a really good year. But you

885
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: can't you can't justify it. Give him thirty eight million.

886
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 3: Joey Bosa thirty six point six million.

887
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Who might be to flat out declining player, like he

888
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: doesn't make plays anymore.

889
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: And here's the here's the problem that the Chargers have

890
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: just flat out releasing those guys.

891
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: It's brutal.

892
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: You only say you're dead. You still have a fifteen

893
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 3: point two million dollar cap hit on Khalil Mack.

894
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dead money and yeah, yeah.

895
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 3: You still have twenty two point two million in dead

896
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 3: money just to they get rid of both, just to

897
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: get him out of the building.

898
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

899
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: Uh, Keenan Allen is eleven point six million dollars. Yeah

900
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: in dead money, right, he's thirty four million. They got

901
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: three guys, four guys making more than thirty million dollars

902
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: on there, and they're all at the same positions.

903
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: Right, the two receivers, two edge guys.

904
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

905
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: Right, and you drafted Johnson, who doesn't look like a hit,

906
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, to be one of those fill in guys. Yeah.

907
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're a very cap you know, if

908
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: you're the maybe like the Panthers. The Panthers have a

909
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: ton of cap space and need everything, you might be

910
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: able to trade like a set of Dallen Robinson trade

911
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: Like I'll give you a seventh round pick for Keenan

912
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: Allen just to take them off your doll Yeah, right,

913
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: to get these the players.

914
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: And you're you're getting you get Joey Bosa for the

915
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: team trading for him. It would be fifteen million dollars.

916
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what.

917
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: There's also a seven million dollar roster bonus. I don't

918
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: know who pays that.

919
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: I guess what depends on what they I mean, trade him.

920
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: I don't know who's their GM.

921
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's back. Is it Telesco?

922
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 3: I think it is Tilesco. Yeah, I think he got

923
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 3: whack too. I bet this same day they the same

924
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: day they fired a coach, they fired everybody, which but

925
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: even like looking at this cap situation, I understand it.

926
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: I mean they pushed all their chips in to win

927
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: it this year before they had to pay Herbert because

928
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: he's about to kick in, Like Darwin's expensive for what

929
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: they get out of him.

930
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: He's nineteen point eight million, Herbert Herbert's nineteen point three.

931
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: He's the sixth highest paid player on the roster next year.

932
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: There's like non big name guys if you go down

933
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: that are like eight million, twelve million, that aren't all

934
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: that great.

935
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks is nine point two million dollars. Yeah, Trey

936
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: Pipkins is eight point seventy five.

937
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: Right, right, he's just dude, just dudes. I mean they're

938
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: like borderline starters. Yeah, I mean it's the worst cap situation.

939
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 3: Fox is like he's Morgan Fox.

940
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: He's a rotational lineman, right right, These our money walks. Yeah,

941
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: and then they're paying them what like eight million, ten

942
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: million something like his.

943
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: Cap pits four point seventy five, which on this roster

944
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: puts him of like twelve. Here's because that's the problem.

945
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: They're so top heavy guys, right, They're so top heavy

946
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 3: that they can't they can't afford anybody else on the

947
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 3: rest of the roster, which is why they didn't win.

948
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly exactly. I'm sure Eckler won't be back. I'm

949
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: sure Williams and or Allen won't be back. I'm sure

950
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: Mac and or Boso won't be back.

951
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: And what he got, you almost have to bite the

952
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 3: bullet and get rid of all those guys. Yes, And

953
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 3: there is some conversation. If you're going to do that,

954
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: why not trade Herbert for three first and let Harbaugh

955
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: just totally put his stamp on things. You got the

956
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 3: fifth pick in the draft, trade everybody and have nothing

957
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: and end up with the first pick overall next year,

958
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: maybe you know, like go that route.

959
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm never in favor of that.

960
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 3: And I would know it either. And if they do

961
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: that in La.

962
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: Oh, they don't over don't even go to the games anyway.

963
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be they'll be a mausoleum. Like, Yeah, yeah,

964
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: they'll be they get playing somebody's back yardby tumbleweed.

965
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. And frankly, if you have one of

966
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: the five to eight quarterbacks, and I think Herbert's one

967
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: of them, you just don't ever trade them.

968
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, no matter what, would be foolish. Yeah, but they

969
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: that's that's not an attractive job.

970
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: The only attractive was you've got a good young Quarva. Yeah,

971
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: but everything else is not in place. The old line's okay,

972
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, Zion s later is okay. But their expensive

973
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: center is Linsley. Yeah, he has heart problems like he could.

974
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: He's fourteen point one million. I know he's super expensive too,

975
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: which was good when you signed him, but I don't

976
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: think he played most of the year. Yeah.

977
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: So anyways, that just caught my ear as I was

978
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: listening to your TV as I was working on some

979
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: stuff today.

980
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be a quick flip And no, no.

981
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs will be sleep well at night.

982
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'll be just fine. Yeah, I don't think.

983
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 3: I don't think them hiring Harball is putting the rest

984
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: of the AFC on notice.

985
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: No, it's kind of like Peyton's going to the same division.

986
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: Last year, like okay, you get this awful Wilson contract

987
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: and messicks and yeah, best of luck.

988
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

989
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to the driver here on

990
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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio. That's going to do it for our

991
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Speaker 3: number one. We'll be back with our number two of

992
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Speaker 3: the drive right after this.