1 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome into the first ever edition of 2 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Snake's Territory, the latest edition to the Foul Territory Network. 3 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: I am your host, Jesse Friedman, back talking Arizona Diamondbacks 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: baseball once again, and on this show, I am very 5 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: excited to be joined by my good friend Jack Summers, 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: who has also covered the Diamondbacks for a very long time, 7 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: worked in the team's front office back in the day. 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: And Jack, I know we. 9 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: Said this off air before we hopped on together, but. 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: You and I have been having our long baseball conversations frankly, 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: much longer than an hour long baseball conversations, time and 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: time again for the past several years. And this show 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: is basically just those conversations, but with us pressing record 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: and with all these great all this great imagery, all 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: of these incredible graphics created by our partners here at 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: fal Terra to make us look a little bit better 17 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: than we would on our own. So I'm excited to 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: do this and excited to do this with you, sir. 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, we get to do this for 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: a long time already at the press box up there 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: at Chase Field, and some of our conversations got pretty deep. 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: Some of them probably got a little silly. We'll do 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: that here again too. 24 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: As people probably know, Jack and I we both enjoyed 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: the analytics side of baseball, and of course we will 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: be diving into the analytics side of the sport a 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: fair amount on the show. But you're also going to 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: hear from some other voices throughout the DBACS community. We're 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: hoping to have pretty frequent guests on the show, players, coaches, 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, so you'll be hearing more from 31 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: more than just the two of us over the course 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: of the season. We're really excited to get started. And 33 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: with that Jack, the Diamondbacks just won pretty crazy baseball 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: game just just on Sunday, and Ryan Nelson, I guess, 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: was kind of the star of the show. 36 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: Right. 37 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks are down six to two going to the 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: bottom of the eighth inning, and Ryan Nelson came through 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: Jack and he is the sole reason that the Diamondbacks 40 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: won this baseball game, right. 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: Pictures who Rake Man. It was a great moment for 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: the kid. You know, he had been trash talking for 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: a long time, ever since Scott McGuff had an opportunity 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: to hit against the Yankees in the bottom of eleventh 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 3: of an extra inning game as the last guy available 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: and didn't come through. So Ever, since then, Nelson's been 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: chirping at Tory Leavello, saying, hey, give me my shot, 48 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: give me my shot. I can do this, I can rake, 49 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: I'll hit a missile somewhere. Well, he bounced one up 50 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 3: the middle and drove in a run, you know, and 51 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: the team had just taken lead seven to six. But 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,839 Speaker 3: it was fun. You saw it coming probably an inning 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: and a half away, that he was going to have 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 3: to hit, and it turned out to be a pretty 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: big spot. Former shorts start up from University Oregon, pretty 56 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 3: athletic guy, and he went up there and he smack 57 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: went up the middle. It was pretty pretty fun moment 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: and he was hysterical in the clubhouse afterwards. He was 59 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: I think he was most proud of his pop up 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: slide in the second base, got his uniform dirty. 61 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: Yes, we know, Ryan Nelson, you know, certainly could be 62 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: a big factor for the Diamondbacks on the pitching side 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: throughout this this twenty twenty five season. But yeah, we'll 64 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: see if he continues to be a factor offensively throughout 65 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: the course of the year as well. Yeah, but he 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: was not the only one who came through in that 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: big eighth inning for the Diamondbacks. They wound up scoring 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: ten runs. They turned a six to a potential six 69 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: to two loss in that finale into a ten six win. 70 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I believe it is still probably the biggest comeback in 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: all of baseball this season, at least it was when 72 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: it when it happened. So yeah, pretty pretty impressive win 73 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: across the board. Other guys who stood out in that 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: game you can see here on your screen. It was 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: really Lordus Guriel Junior who really came through with arguably 76 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: the biggest hit with a game time to run home 77 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: run in that inning. Edward Rodriguez was pretty pretty solid 78 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: overall in that one five and a third three hits, 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: three runs, three walks, five strikeouts. Josh Naylor also a 80 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: standout performer there, Jack two for two, were three walks 81 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: and two runs scored, reached in all five played appearances 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday. 83 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Nayler's double off the wall that drove 84 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: in the go ahead run. He's the one that put 85 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: them up to begin with. But Guriel's homer was electric, 86 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: you know. Just before that, herald U Podomo, it hit 87 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: a two run double. I mean they were They went 88 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: into that inning, you know, six outs away from dropping 89 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: three out of four to the Cups and struggling. The 90 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: night before, they'd gone one for nine with runners of 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: scoring position. The next they're going into the fifth, sixth inning, 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: I mean they had like fifteen base runners and again 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: we're at one point one for nine with runners of 94 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: score position. Just couldn't get anything going, and Tory Lavello 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: got aggressive. He pinched hit for Garrett Hampson in the 96 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 3: sixth inning, And there's a whole big story behind that, 97 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: you know, but that move is what ultimately led to 98 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: Tory needing to use a pitcher at the plate. It's 99 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 3: kind of a roster construction issue. Katel Marte was the 100 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: DH for the game, and Garrett Hampson was in at 101 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: second base, and Hampson's the only backup infielder that they have. 102 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: They have they're carrying five outfielders. So when you moved 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: Ktel into DH, you always have that risk that if 104 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 3: anything happens and you have to move Katel into a 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: position spot, now you've lost the DH. In this case, 106 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: what was happening was nobody was hitting and they needed 107 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 3: to pinch hit for Garrett Hampson, who's a week hitter. 108 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: Peven Smith delivered a double. They ended up scoring a 109 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: run on a sacrifice fly, and at least, you know, 110 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 3: chipped away and got a little closer at that point, 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: but that set the wheels of motion. Tory Levello then 112 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: emptied his bench and he was just being really aggressive 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: and you know, he kind of got caught out a 114 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: little bit, but it all worked out in the end. Yeah. 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: It kind of reminds me of pretty much this exact 116 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: time last year, right when when Scott McGuff, I know 117 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: you referenced McGuff earlier and Ryan Nelson very much wanting 118 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: to get that sort of opportunity. This time around, McGuff 119 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: did get a pretty similar opportunity again against the Yankees, 120 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: the team that the Diamondbacks are about to play next. 121 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: I guess there's some similarities with the schedule there, but yeah, 122 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I guess all is well. 123 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: That ends well. 124 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: Tory was really aggressive, as you said, early in the game, 125 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: and it ultimately paid off and the Diamondbacks did take 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: a lead before Ryan Nelson even came to the plate, 127 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: So you know, I think it would have been a 128 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: much worse. Look if they were still in a hole 129 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: and needed their picture to come through off the bench. 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: But as you said, the offense just kind of needed 131 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: it needed something to jump start it. And you know, 132 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks as of that sixth inning where Peven Smith 133 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: came in as a pinch hitter for Garret Hampson, like, 134 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: they hadn't scored any runs at that point, and you 135 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: could argue that Tory, being as aggressive as he was 136 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: was was really a catalyst for winning this game. 137 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: Right. Well, you know, I think when you look at 138 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: when you kind of telescope out and you look at 139 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 3: the whole series, you know, it's kind of funny that 140 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: we look at j Henniel Suarez. I mean, he had 141 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: a huge, huge series that ultimately won him the National 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: League Player of the Week, which is a big announcement. 143 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: This afternoon. He went four for fourteen. All four home 144 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: runs were just massive moon shots up into the left 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: field bleachers. Drove in seven runs. The second game he 146 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: had two two run homes, so you know, he had 147 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: four of the team's five home runs in the series. 148 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: They hit three twenty nine. I mean, you look at 149 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: all the guys that five for eight for Marino four 150 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: for seven for Smith, Alec Thomas five for seven, a 151 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: couple of doubles, a couple of singles, and a really 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: long sack fly that almost went out the offense. You know, 153 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: they they showed that they can do it. I had 154 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: mentioned earlier they were having trouble with the runners in 155 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: scoring position, but if you keep putting that many men 156 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: on base, getting that many hits and that many walks, 157 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: eventually the dam is gonna break. And it sure did. 158 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: So you know, Diamondbacks led the league in scoring last 159 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: year and they're on a good track to have a 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: good offense this year as well. The other thing I 161 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: wanted to especially mention here was Nailor that last bullet 162 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: zero K and eighteen PA. I mean that guy. You know, 163 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: the term professional hitter gets thrown about so much, but 164 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, he knows what the appat requires and he 165 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: puts the bat on the ball. But he can hit 166 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: with power too. He's not a punch and judy guy obviously, 167 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: So I think that he really fits with this whole 168 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 3: offense of we're not going to out homer everybody, but 169 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: we're gonna get on base. We're gonna get a lot 170 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: of base hits and we're gonna get our RBIs, So 171 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: it looks like it's going to be all right. 172 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, how much stock are you 173 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: putting into offense over the course of one weekend? Like, yeah, 174 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: probably not, but I'm with you that there were some 175 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: positive signs here. The Diamondbacks had a nine to forty 176 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: one oh ps uh over over the weekend, which is 177 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: second in Baseball only to the Yankees at this point, 178 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: not that it really matters four or five games into 179 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: the season, but but yeah, this this offense at least 180 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: it certainly passed the sniff test in the first series 181 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: of the year. Granted, you know, is the Cubs pitching 182 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: staff going to ultimately prove as one of the best 183 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: in the league, Like, uh, maybe not, We'll we'll see. 184 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: I think their rotation looked looked fine, you know, like 185 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: showed Atmanaga certainly was very very good in his start. 186 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, you saw some some pretty decent performances in 187 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that regard. I know, Jamison ty Owne wasn't wasn't great 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: in his outing. But the bullpen in in Chicago, and 189 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: this is something I kind of figured all off season long. 190 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: You know, there just isn't a lot there, and and 191 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: it kind of felt to me at the beginning of 192 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: the series that the Diamondbacks were going to win a 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: game at some point over the weekend by just getting 194 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: to the Cubs bullpen and and as of late late 195 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: in the game on Sunday, it looked like maybe that 196 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: was not going to happen. But then they they obviously 197 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,599 Speaker 1: score eight runs and and there you have it. I 198 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: think that that bullpen might be an issue for them. 199 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 3: I agree, you know, pressly. I mean, he's been a 200 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: pretty good picture, but boy, he had a rough series 201 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: and just did not look good. He couldn't locate ye, 202 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: you know, falling behind, and then came in the zone 203 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: and got hammered. They got a lot of walks moving, 204 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: I drew a lot of walks and. 205 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: Serious, yeah, yes, yes they did. 206 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: As far as I guess, the more the more negative 207 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: side of things here, you know, I think by and 208 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: large like it was a series split, but I think 209 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: there are probably more more positive than negative, at least 210 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: from my standpoint coming out of out of the weekend. 211 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: It's amazing how much of a one eight run inning, 212 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: uh late on late in the series finale can can 213 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: sort of. 214 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: Change the equation. 215 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: But if we were if we were kind of nitpicking 216 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: here and trying to look at like, like, okay, what 217 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: didn't go right? What could be an issue going into 218 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: the future, Even though again such a small sample size, 219 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: but Zach Gallon Jack was not particularly good on opening day. Obviously, 220 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: that was really a really big decision for Tory Lavello 221 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: deciding between him and this other guy named Corbyn Burns, 222 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: who apparently is a member of the Diamondbacks, although we 223 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: have yet to see him pitch. And yeah, Tory ultimately 224 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: landed on Gallon. He's obviously been the anchor of this 225 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: staff for a while now. But you know, you and 226 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: I have talked about this a fair amount here the 227 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: last year or so, like, Gallon has not really has 228 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: not quite looked the part of a frontline starter on 229 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: a consistent basis for a little while now. You know, 230 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: his last forty two starts. I think if you include 231 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: the postseason in twenty twenty three, that kind of that 232 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: final portion of the twenty twenty three season where he struggled, 233 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: and then all of last year and what we saw 234 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: on his debut this year. His era is over four 235 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: in a span that's you know, well over two hundred innings. 236 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: So obviously that stat is is kind of cherry picked. 237 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not here to say that Zach Gallen isn't 238 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: one of the better pitchers in the game. But if 239 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: you're nitpicking from the weekend, he did really struggle on 240 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: opening Day. 241 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what's pretty clearly happened with Zach. I mean, 242 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: he's still a good pitcher, but he's fallen back from 243 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: being elite. I mean, he was elite for you know, 244 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: a season, season and a half. And it all goes 245 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: back to the fastball command, which we've talked about quite 246 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: a bit. We actually have an article coming out tomorrow 247 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: with detailing with charts and grass and everything. But you know, 248 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: his his ability to command the fastball just hasn't been there, 249 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 3: you know, really for the last one plus year. It 250 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: started to drop off even somewhat towards the end of 251 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: twenty three, and in twenty twenty four, the fastball comand 252 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: was just a lot worse than it was at his 253 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: elite levels. And without that, I mean, he's got this 254 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 3: great arsenal, you know, he's got the knuckle curve, he's 255 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: got the cutter, you know, I mean He's got a 256 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: bunch of other pitches that he can throw good change up, 257 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 3: but it just it's not gonna work if he can't 258 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: locate his fastballs. Pitch council running up, and you know, 259 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: he has drawn a lot of short outings, walking a 260 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: lot of guys. It's just it's unfortunate that a guy 261 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 3: like that is always looking to tweak something. And I 262 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 3: think he may have tweaked himself out of his best 263 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: mechanics because I can't explain anything else that The velocity 264 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: is there, all the other secondary stuff is all still there. 265 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: You know, why is he unable to command that fastball. 266 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: I think he's tweaked his delivery and made minor changes 267 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: here and there that kind of fixed what wasn't broken. 268 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: His explanation, I was, I was on site for opening 269 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: day itself. I wasn't there for the rest of the weekend, 270 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: although I know you were. His explanation on opening day 271 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: was that he felt like he was he was rushing, 272 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: not not necessarily in like a pitch clock trying to 273 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: get pitches off soon situation, but more in just a 274 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: just his motion going toward the plate. He just felt 275 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: like he wasn't hitting. He wasn't hitting his spots, the 276 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: spots that he wants to hit when he's really in 277 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: rhythm out there on the mound. So that's what that's 278 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: what he had to say after the game. I'm with you. 279 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: That fastball command, I think is really is really the 280 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: soul of the issues that that he's had. And again 281 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: it's not to say the Gallon hasn't still, you know, 282 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: been really really good at times, Like I think back 283 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: to his final start of the year last season pitching 284 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: against the Giants where he came through in a big 285 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: spot and had eleven strikeouts. And but but yeah, you know, 286 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: he also when I talked to him at the end 287 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: of last year, said that his twenty twenty four season 288 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: was really inconsistent. It wasn't up to the to the 289 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: standard that he was that he's trying to hit. And obviously, Jack, 290 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: this is a pretty big season for him, Like this 291 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: is this is his walk year, you know, I think, 292 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: I think as long as he stays healthy, the floor 293 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: for a next contract is still going to be relatively high. 294 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: But the ceiling, you know, like theoretically could be very 295 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: very high if he if he really shows himself at 296 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: his best for the twenty twenty five season. But I 297 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: think there's a pretty wide gap between you know, what's 298 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: the lowest the Gallon could sign for this offseason and 299 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: what's the highest, Like, you know, there's that there's quite 300 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: a bit of money sort of on the line with 301 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: with how he pitches this season. 302 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,359 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, you use the word consistency, 303 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: and of course every time we doubt Zach Gallon, what happens. 304 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: He goes out, like you said, and throws a great game, 305 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: and it reminds us just how good he can be. 306 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: I mean, the guy still went fourteen and six last 307 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: year with the three six five era. Now the era 308 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: is a little high, the walk rade jumped up, but 309 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: you know, he put that team in a position to 310 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: win a lot and he got a lot of run 311 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: support too. We all know one loss record isn't the 312 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: be all end all, be all, but at the same time, 313 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: you know, if you put the innings in, you're going 314 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: to get there. I think heading into twenty twenty four 315 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: work before that season started, I think we all agreed, 316 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: like the floor for his next contract would be like 317 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 3: the Aaron Nola deal, you know, seventy five million whatever 318 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: it was, and it just feels like, you know, with 319 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: every month, like a few million get lopped off that 320 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: I think that floor is no longer the the Aaron 321 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: Nola deal. I think that floor has dropped, maybe even 322 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: onder one hundred and fifty, and he needs to raise 323 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 3: it back up. 324 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's probably fair. Yeah, going 325 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: back to the fastball command stuff I tweeted out during 326 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: the game, I think seven of his first twenty two 327 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: four seemers were in the zone, which obviously is really low. 328 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: I think it was. 329 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: I want to say it was a thirty five percent 330 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: zone rate for the entire game, which, Yeah, if your 331 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: fastball is only in the zone thirty five percent of 332 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: the time, that's really gonna that's really going to cause 333 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: some some issues. 334 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: His fastball location. 335 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: One point, Yeah, that is also Yeah, through eleven consecutive balls, 336 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: which of course resulted in two walks, both of those 337 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: guys ultimately came around, came around to score. I'm not 338 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: necessarily one to read into a location plus metric from 339 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: one outing. For those who don't know what location plus is, 340 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: it's basically just how well did you command a pitch 341 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Where one hundred is average, Anything above that is good 342 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: anything below that is not so good. And Gallon was 343 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: a sixty seven location plus with his four seen fastball 344 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: on opening Day, which again it's one start. I mean, 345 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: it's obviously a very small sample, but that is an 346 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: incredibly low number. Last year, his location plus for the 347 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: season was ninety two, which I believe was maybe the 348 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: worst out of any pitcher who threw, you know, one 349 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: hundred or more innings on the d Backs last year. 350 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: So so yeah, you know, it's it's a pretty clearly 351 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: identifiable issue, and it's a little bit weird because this 352 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: is something that Gallon has excelled at at times in 353 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: the past, like his fastball come in. I remember Brent 354 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: Strom when when he was the Diamondbacks pitching coach, like 355 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: raving about how Gallon's fastball command was really what set 356 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: him apart from other pitchers. And it's amazing how something 357 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: that sounds so simple can have such a big impact. 358 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's a hard game, like you said, and consistency 359 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: is key, So we'll see how he goes. I think, 360 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 3: you know, just kind of moving on from Zach a 361 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: little bit, Jake McCarthy needs to mention here again, small 362 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 3: sample size, I'm not talking about the fact that he 363 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 3: went over eight in the series. That's how many guys 364 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 3: went over eight. But the swings don't look great right now. 365 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 3: And you know, there was a very catchable ball that 366 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: was pretty key in Game one there, you know, kind 367 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 3: of dove and left his feet a little bit, the 368 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 3: ball went in his glove and hit the pocket and 369 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 3: bounced out and three runs scored on the play. You know, 370 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: a bass is clearing double and there are a lot of 371 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: people that just felt like, hey, Alec Thomas makes that play. 372 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: Of course, Alec to hit you know one ninety eight 373 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: last year and was hobbled with hamstring injuries. So they're 374 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: back in a mode of really fighting for that center 375 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 3: field job. Alec messed up as hamstring last year, Jake 376 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: took over, ended up having a really good year, hit 377 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: at eighty five, had a center part of the season. 378 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 3: It was really hot. And now Alec is back and 379 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: running well, and he's himself as far as the legs 380 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: and defense is concerned, and all of a sudden, he's 381 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: you know, hitting the ball on the line and smoking 382 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: the ball. So we'll see. It's two games each. It 383 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 3: doesn't really mean anything as far as evaluation, but you 384 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: know the team is looking at everything really closely. I 385 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 3: mentioned the roster construction issue a little while ago. I 386 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: think it's very possible that within a couple of weeks 387 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: somebody like Blaize Alexander, who can play infield and is 388 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: getting reps in the outfield in the minor league games 389 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 3: out at Salt River, could be called back up. Garrett 390 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: Hampsen can play outfield. The DBACS may very soon determine 391 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: that they don't need to carry five outfielders and they'd 392 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: rather go with infield, outfielder utility players and drop one outfielder. 393 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: So keep an eye on that pretty closely. You know, 394 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 3: Jake's going to have to turn it around pretty quickly 395 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: here or he could be headed back to Reno Yet again. 396 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: The other thing, you know, series concerns. Dbacks made six 397 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: errors in the first three games. They made sixty two 398 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 3: all of last year, which is the fewest in all 399 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 3: of Major League Baseball. They had a couple of outs 400 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: on base, including in Game three, the final out of 401 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 3: the game, Garrett Hampson, who's there for his speed and 402 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: base running, made a pretty big base running mistake and 403 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: got deeped out by Dansby Swanson. On a pretty dark 404 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: good play and ended up getting picked off their base 405 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: as Swanson ran over to tag him. You know, at 406 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: the same game, Pete Crime strong throughout Josh Neller at 407 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: their base for the final out of an inning. You know, 408 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: just a lot of missed double plays. There were at 409 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 3: least two or three double plays that you used to 410 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: seeing them turn and double clutching and just slow turns, 411 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: and so that was kind of the narrative through the 412 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: first three games. It's like, Wow, what's with all these 413 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 3: mental and physical errors that this team, you know, because 414 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: they live on the margins, right, I mean, for the 415 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 3: most part, they have to win the little inches. Tory 416 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 3: talks about that all the time. They're not going to 417 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: slug you into submission. So that's something to keep an 418 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: eye on. Even though that wasn't the case in game four, 419 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 3: but it was very much the case of first three games. 420 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, it's kind of 421 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: been the brand of the Diamondbacks the last few years, right, 422 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: has been that there there's like a level of competence, 423 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: there's a level of you know, just making making all 424 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: the all the small plays, right. Tory Leavelo definitely brands 425 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: himself as a manager on that So it felt to 426 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: me like the Diamondbacks outplayed the Cubs over the weekend 427 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: all in all, but they came away with a series split, right, 428 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: And you look back at a lot of those moments 429 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: you just mentioned, and you know it wouldn't have taken 430 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: all that much to flip you know, that Thursday game, 431 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: even though they wound up losing by four runs on 432 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: Opening Day you mentioned the catch with Jake and center 433 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: or I think there was a double play ball potentially 434 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: right before that that they weren't able. They weren't able 435 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: to convert. So there was an opportunity here to to 436 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: take three out of four. You know, maybe if they 437 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: eliminate like all those mistakes, maybe there would have been 438 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: a route to sweeping the series. But ultimately, Jack, they 439 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: kind of avoided disaster. I think it would have been 440 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: it would have been rough to come away from that 441 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: first series losing three out of four. Series split feels 442 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: like a like a totally fine outcome. And now we're 443 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: looking if we kind of look ahead here with our 444 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: series preview of the New York Yankees, the Arizona Diamondbacks 445 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: are traveling to New York and they are taking on 446 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: a Yankees team that scored thirty six runs against the 447 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: Breweries in three games. They hit fifteen They've hit fifteen 448 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: home runs. Yes, we'll talk about the torpedo bats, but yeah, 449 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy named Corbyn Burns is pitching for 450 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks on Tuesday night and that feels like a 451 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: pretty big. 452 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: Finally, So yeah, for those that might not have been 453 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 3: totally in the loop as to what happened there, when 454 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: Tory Lavello chose Zach Gallen to get the opening day start, 455 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: it would have necessitated Corbyn Burns pitching on six days 456 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 3: rest in Game two, and he wasn't willing to do 457 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: that and go out of his routine. He's used to 458 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 3: working on four or five days rest. And while some 459 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: people may want to say, hey, just you know, pitch 460 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: when they tell you to pitch, and he had a 461 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: very good counter argument. He said, Look, my routine is 462 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: something that I set up five years ago and it's 463 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: what maybe the pitcher I am today. That's why you 464 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: signed me to a six year, two hundred and ten 465 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: million dollar contract. I don't think you want my first 466 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: time out for you as a Diamondback to leave that 467 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: routine behind, to leave everything behind that's made me successful. 468 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: And he plans out every single little detail of what 469 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: he does from the minute his outing is done until 470 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: it's the next time to throw at. I mean all 471 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: pictures do that, but his is at an insane level. 472 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: I mean he's got spreadsheets and every minute of every 473 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: day is lined out and that's what he that's his process. 474 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: So that's why Corbyn Burns ended up taking another backfield 475 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 3: start and then pitching the opening series of the Yankee series. No, 476 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 3: he's not the fifth starter in thek in the Diamondbacks rotation. 477 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, technically he is the fifth starter in the 478 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: Diamondbacks rotation. Jack, I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, 479 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: So it is Corbyn Burns against Will Warren on Tuesday 480 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: in the opener. 481 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: Will Warren. 482 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I don't know a ton about 483 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: Will Warren. He's a twenty five year old right hander. 484 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: Pitched a little bit in the majors last year, didn't 485 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: have a particularly lot of success. Game two is Zach 486 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: Gallon against Carlos Dan good pitching match up there, and 487 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: then the finale is Merril Kelly against Carlos Carrasco. Who 488 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: apparently is still pitching in Major League Baseball, which is oppressive. 489 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: This is kind of the big three for the Diamondbacks, 490 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: right Jack, I mean Corbyn Burns, Zach Gallon, Merril Kelly. 491 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I guess for the rest of the season it might 492 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of feel like Corbyn Burns is your number one 493 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: starter and you have these three guys in succession. It'll 494 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what that looks like over the 495 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: course of a three game series with all three of 496 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: those guys going and again against the hottest offense in 497 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: all of baseball. We mentioned it a few minutes ago, 498 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: thirty six runs in three games. They swept the Milwaukee Brewers, 499 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: and Jack, I guess it's time to tell the people 500 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: about the torpedo. So the Yankees cheating or what happened 501 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: to here over the weekend, Well. 502 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 3: They're absolutely not cheating. I mean, you can't get a 503 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: bat into a major league game that hasn't been vetted 504 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: and cleared. I mean, there's a whole process to have 505 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: your bats that you manufacture approved and to be able 506 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: to get into a major league game. It's not an 507 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 3: easy thing to become an approved vendor. So you know, 508 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 3: the bat's illegal and you know, the simple explanation with 509 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: the torpedo bat is some of the mass has been 510 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: moved from the end of the bat to the about 511 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 3: six inches off the end. Some people call torpedo, some 512 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 3: people call it a bowling pin shape. I'm sure almost 513 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 3: everybody watching this has already seen some kind of pictures 514 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 3: of it. And at least five of the Yankee hitters, 515 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: Jazz Chisholm, Anthony Volpi, We've got Paul Goldschmidt, Bellinger, and 516 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 3: Austin Wells I believe, so at least five of them 517 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: were using it. And you know, they were all part 518 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 3: of the home run parade, so much so that before 519 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: the season even ended, I heard that Riz Hoskins went 520 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: and ordered some and you know players throughout the league 521 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: or or trying to jump on the badwagon. So you know, 522 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 3: it's a legal bat. It meets to weight specifications that 523 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: may all the dimensions are legal within the written rules. 524 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Now you know, either legal, they're legal for now Jack 525 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: the illegal. 526 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean we don't know it's really good. 527 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: I mean Aaron judgesn't use it. He's hit four home 528 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: runs and three in a game and you know he's 529 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: not using it. He's just a great hitter, so we 530 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: don't have enough data to know that this is really 531 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 3: the case. Anecdotally, Dansby Swanson was also using one in 532 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: the d Backs and the game against the d Backs, 533 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: and I alerted our friends over in the boot. I 534 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: have my binoculars out and I'm saying, hey, get your 535 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 3: cameras on Dansby Swanson. He's got a torpedo bat on 536 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: his shoulder, and they picked up right away. They got 537 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: to it, and sure enough, he takes a swing and 538 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: the thing shatters just like half the bat just went 539 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: down the third base line, and then later he got 540 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 3: a new one and he hit the ball weekly down 541 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: the third base. The point here being is you're probably 542 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: going to see fewer cheap ground balls and flares get 543 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: through because that are hit off the end of the bat, 544 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 3: because I think there's obviously the mass moved, so those 545 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: are going to be even weaker and just not quite 546 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: be able to, you know, get through. So it'll be interesting. 547 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 3: But if the data shows that these are really leading 548 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: to that many more home runs, you know, one or 549 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: two things are going to happen. MLB or rewrite the rules, 550 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: or everybody in the league's going to be using them. 551 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: Those are the only two options. 552 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the torpedo vats to me are are 553 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: in a way like not really surprising, right. It almost 554 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: it kind of dawned on me, like I feel like 555 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: I should have seen this coming. It was only a 556 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,239 Speaker 1: matter of time before some MI I T guy, you know, 557 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: like figured out how to remake bats within the rules 558 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: that would maximize the damage that you could do on 559 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: barrels you know where you really where you really do 560 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: hit the ball right on right on the sweet spot, 561 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: and that that's effectively what what these bats are doing. 562 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: I did think it was interesting. 563 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: Jack. 564 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: I believe this was Trevor McGill, reliever with the Milwaukee Brewers, 565 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: who of course faced the Yankees over the weekend. His quote, 566 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: this is a this is a story from from ESPN's 567 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Passon. He said, like something used in slow pitch softball. 568 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: That that was his description of the torpedo bats. So 569 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: it's become basically the biggest story in all of baseball 570 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: here over the last few days, and the Diamondbacks will 571 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: we'll get to see it on display firsthand, with a 572 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: number of Yankees hitters presumably using these bats into the future, 573 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: and I guess Aaron Judge didn't use it, but he's 574 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge and he home runs over the weekend anyway, 575 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 1: so uh he he could. You know, he could basically 576 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: use any bat up there, and you know he'd probably 577 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: still hit the ball over the fence. But yeah, it'll 578 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what what these few days look like. 579 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: Well, like you said, the Dbacks have their top three 580 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: pitchers going. It should be a good series. I'm really 581 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing this. You know, best against the best, 582 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 3: that's what that's what you want to see every time. 583 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you all joining us here for this 584 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: very first episode of Snake's Territory. I know our our 585 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: video maybe a little on the blurry side throughout this. 586 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: We'll do our best to get those issues ironed out 587 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: over time. We appreciate you bearing with us. Be sure 588 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: as you see here on your screen if you're joining 589 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: us on the video side to like and subscribe. You 590 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: can find the show on the Apple podcast app, on 591 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Spotify pretty much anywhere you get your podcasts, you should 592 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: be able to find it there, and then of course 593 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: on on YouTube here as well with our our channel 594 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: under Snake's Territorylory. If you can like the video, drop 595 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: a comment. We'd love to hear what you think. Tell 596 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: us what you think of the torpedo Bats, whether you 597 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: think they should be outlawed by Major League Baseball here 598 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: in a matter of days. Jack I also failed to 599 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: mention at the top of the show. For those of 600 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: you who don't know, Jack covers the Diamondbacks on a 601 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: daily basis for Arizona Diamondbacks on SI does an outstanding job, 602 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: So if you want more Jack Summer's content, you can 603 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: go over to their website. 604 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: And it's not just Jack. 605 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: He has an army of other writers over there doing 606 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: great work as well, so be sure to check that out, 607 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: and I guess drop Twitter handles here as well. You 608 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: can find the show at Snake's Territory. You can find 609 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: me at Jesse and Friedman. Jack correct me if I'm 610 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: wrong at Shoe Wizard fifty nine. 611 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: I get that right, You got it? 612 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: You got it? 613 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. Correct Okay at Shoe Wizard fifty nine. 614 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: To give Jack a follow as well if you have 615 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: not already, Thank you again to all of you for 616 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: joining us on our debut episode. We're planning three episodes 617 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: per week throughout the season, so stay tuned. Our schedule 618 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: here for this week and kind of the general rhythm 619 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: of the show is still TBD, but you can certainly 620 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: expect to hear from us again here very soon. So 621 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: thank you again all for joining us. We appreciate your time, 622 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: and we will see you all again very very soon.