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Speaker 1: some other late breaking news that occurred during the game. Um, Mark,

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Speaker 1: did you see this coming? Did you see the Titans

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I think that if you're someone that

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Speaker 1: not to spin this into, you know, a different segment already,

430
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Speaker 1: but I believe that the Chargers in the Saints have

431
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: played each other like every election year since, like the seventies,

432
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: And when the Chargers win, the Republican candidate wins the

433
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: popular vote, and when the Saints win, um, the Democratic

434
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: candidate wins the popular vote. So a lot was it

435
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: stake last night that we weren't even thinking about. You

436
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: say that badger taking one for the team. He cut

437
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: it a little close, was the other thing. And this

438
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: is you know, this is why I believe the Chargers

439
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: are the most pained franchise, because the truly truly cursed teams.

440
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: There's always that that little extra twist on it. It

441
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: wasn't that he yanked it and missed it by twenty

442
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: five yards. It was that it looked like it was

443
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: dead on. It looked like he they had won the

444
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: game there and then because I guess he didn't catch

445
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,959
Speaker 1: it just right. It trails off and smacks the upright,

446
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: and it doesn't fall through over the crossbar like it

447
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: would for the Patriots in a playoff game. It falls

448
00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Um. For a miss kick. So

449
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: Michael Badgeley, that sucks. Sorry bro Um. But Greg, what

450
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: did you take away from this game from from a

451
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: bigger picture? I know everyone's talking justin Justin Herbert, who

452
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: had a record setting Monday night football performance, But what

453
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: did you see from the Saints in this game? Well

454
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: that you know, as annoying as they are to watch offensively,

455
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you're a fan of them, that like

456
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: as slow as Breeze looks like physically he's slower too.

457
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: He used to be better like avoiding hits and his

458
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: arms obviously not the same. And it's this high wire

459
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: act on offense. It's sort of the triumph of like

460
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: how much you can win Mentally, Like, I'm amazed they're

461
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: as good as they are despite his limitations and their

462
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: limitations and some of the mistakes they've made on defense,

463
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Speaker 1: Like they're still in the top ten in d v

464
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Speaker 1: o A so far through five weeks. Like they're finding

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Speaker 1: ways to hit pockets of games where they score when

466
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Speaker 1: they need to, which they did in the second half

467
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: of this game. And I think there's a chance that

468
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: they could improve. Um, you know as the season goes along,

469
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: that they're getting like they are. Bye week would look

470
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: so different if they were going into it two and three,

471
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Speaker 1: But now they're three and two and they feel like

472
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a little healthier. They get Michael Thomas back, who,

473
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: by the way, like they didn't even mention until the

474
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter how he had gotten in a fight and

475
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: that's why he suspended. You would think that would be

476
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger of a story. We all knew

477
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: about it, but it's just like they're burying that. I'm

478
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: amazed that they're like surviving despite this high wire act.

479
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: They almost seem like kind of an old champion um

480
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be too tough to knock out, Like they're

481
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna be in the playoffs. They're gonna matter, but they're

482
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: not the same old Saints. I mean, I mean think

483
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: we can say that. You know, last week against Detroit,

484
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: they had to work them with their way out of

485
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: a fourteen nothing hole after being up in the middle

486
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: of the night with Corona testing and in the in

487
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: the in the drama and intention around that, they worked

488
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: themselves out of a twenty and three hole. I think

489
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Speaker 1: they're lucky to face a Chargers team that since to

490
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Speaker 1: your point of this team being cursed in three and

491
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: thirteen and one score games over the last two seasons.

492
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: He is outrageous. And I know, right, I know Anthony Lynn.

493
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: You know he addressed that after the game. He said,

494
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: We've just got to finish these damn games. But this

495
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: is an Anthony Lynn narrative and a problem to work

496
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: his way out of. I would say, though, because I

497
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: mean for the Chargers fans freaking out about that part

498
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: of things still existing. If you don't come out of

499
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: this game, for the Chargers fans that are still out

500
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: there with your heart beating over Justin Herbert, then you've

501
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: lost the whole perspective here. I mean, they're gonna be.

502
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: Their future is literally completely different than it was a

503
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: month ago. It is completely different. And I felt like

504
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: I was watching a grand historic Saints team in their

505
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: final chapter, you know, across the field from us, from

506
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: a Chargers team that is just beginning a journey with

507
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback that made some throws last night. You know,

508
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: people can call themselves quarterback gurus or whatever. I don't

509
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: call myself that clearly, but you can just see when

510
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: a dude has it, when the arm is so different.

511
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: And I I've had a career of celebrating the Gardner

512
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: Minshew and all this other stuff. This is a completely

513
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: different type of quarterback. And I mean it was just

514
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: one of the more unbelievable rookie performances. It wasn't perfect,

515
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: but the throws he made and put on tape I

516
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: would be the right. And they asked how, They asked

517
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: how to like galvanize l a football specifically from the

518
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: Chargers angle. Here's your answer. I think it was, you know,

519
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: an eye opening performance for some people that watch maybe

520
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: the league more casually. But he's been this guy since

521
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: he took over as the starter. And again, I think

522
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: it's the biggest most pleasant surprise of the season so

523
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: far that Herbert was supposed to be this guy and

524
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: that was being kept um in bubble wrap while Tara

525
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: Taylor went through the first month or so of the season,

526
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: and then the absurd circumstances around Taylor um being in

527
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: churt essentially by his own medical staff, opening the door

528
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: for Herbert starting on like twenty minutes notice. And then

529
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: since he's taken that, he's lost all these games, but

530
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: he's also outplayed or played up to the level of

531
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: a bunch of Hall of Fame level quarterbacks. I don't

532
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: nobody saw this coming, and I thought, I don't know

533
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: if it was Riddick or Greasy who made the point

534
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: um after the go ahead touchdown past late in the

535
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, um that his skill set is that he

536
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: just has that ability that not all quarterbacks do to

537
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: sense something a big play a foot down field and

538
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: there's no hesitation, and when a defense bites on a

539
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: double move or a safety's drifting where he shouldn't be.

540
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: This guy seems to have that ability to be a

541
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: mad bomber. And it was such a difference Connor seeing

542
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: his style play against Drew Brees in this game. Breeze

543
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: still through yards and moved the offense up and down

544
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: the field when it when he needed to. But he's

545
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: such a different quarterback than Herbert. Yeah, and it's weird.

546
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean, during the pre draft process, everybody said that

547
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: he was going to add this vertical element to the

548
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: Chargers offense that they certainly didn't have with the declining

549
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Rivers and and didn't really have with Tyrod Taylor. But

550
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: it just felt immediately like one of those things that

551
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: people say when they have nothing else to say about

552
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Um, you know it's so he's tall, so vertical,

553
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: but um, it really did kind of come to fruition

554
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: right away, and I was shocked at how good he looked.

555
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: And you have to remember that he found out about

556
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: his first start like literally seconds before the game and

557
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: getting no raps during during practice that week. So the

558
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: fact that this guy is already at this level, you

559
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: just hope that any sort of meddling owner or you know,

560
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: search firm doesn't come in and just torpedo the progress

561
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: that they're making now and realize that they have something

562
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: special here we right. I mean, that's the thing. His

563
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: past protection has been so terrible. That's what's impressed me

564
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: the most. His pocket presence is great. Last night was

565
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: an abomination. And this is why sometimes you can um

566
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: separate the quarterback from their surroundings, because if Herbert did

567
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: nothing in this game, everyone would say, well, that's not

568
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: his fault. But a great quarterback can overcome it, you know,

569
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: even a great rookie quarterback. They had twelve quarterback hits,

570
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: they had to have about twenty five urias. They could

571
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: not have played any worse upfront, to the point where

572
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: I didn't totally kill Anthony Lynn for his conservative play calling,

573
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: but at some point you have to notice, you've run

574
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: fifteen first down runs, you have sixteen yards, and they're

575
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: trying to like protect Herbert, and I get that, but

576
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: you're just much more productive when you're calling aggressive plays.

577
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: And they waited until the Saints caught up to be

578
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: more aggressive. And that's why you do worry that somehow

579
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: the Chargers voodoo or ownership or whatever's ruined the fact

580
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: that they drafted a Hall of Fame quarterback and Drew

581
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 1: Brees blew that drafted Philip Rivers didn't really get as

582
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: much as they wanted out of that. And you don't

583
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: want them to do it um to Herbert either, because

584
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: right now I don't blame Lynn. He has them playing hard.

585
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: They're not just missing players, they're missing six Pro Bowlers

586
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: and four other starters. That's ten starters. I mean, that

587
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: is outrageous, and it's it's their best players do many

588
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: of the best players. So I do give them a

589
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: little bit of a pass, But I also worry with

590
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: Herbert and especially the rest of this season, like what

591
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: are you gonna do to protect him? Because he's in

592
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: a tough spot. I would ask this, I mean, I

593
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: get that Tyrone. You know, Anthony Lynn is the type

594
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: of coach that he had it in his mind to

595
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: start Tyrod Taylor barring anything um from an incredibly historic

596
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: gaff from a trainer that will be part of the

597
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert narrative forever. But today, no preseason games. But

598
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: do they get through all of their off season and

599
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: all of their training camp practices without an idea that

600
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was this much better than Tyrod Taylor could

601
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: ever be. Maybe you don't know until game time. I

602
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: really think that with a lot of season layers, it's

603
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: like Jordan Treason, That's that's a factor. I just I

604
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: wonder if there was any pushback from anyone in the

605
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: coaching staff saying this kid can do it. I mean,

606
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: maybe they found out when we found out in week one.

607
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: It seems like such a unique sport in that I

608
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: don't think you can tell that. I mean you can

609
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: tell from practice, but how much can you really tell

610
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: you know it, I don't know. It's just such a

611
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: different animal. It's like the Eagles are playing jordan' my latta.

612
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: You know, Henry Hatson's favorite guy, who's you know this

613
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: rogu I who literally never played football before, and they

614
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: just refused to ever play him because he looks so

615
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: bad in practice, and they they finally were forced to

616
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: after three or four years, and then he's out there,

617
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: and you know what, he's played pretty well the last

618
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: two weeks. Like you almost you don't know until you

619
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: see it. Um. Final thoughts from me on this game.

620
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: The force feeding of Taysom Hill was baffling to me.

621
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: I know that's something that Sean payton Um feel strongly about,

622
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: so I assume it's not going to change. And I

623
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: know he scored on that option uh late in the game,

624
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: but when Drew Brees started playing well, it was just

625
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: seemed strange to me that he kept on putting Hill

626
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: in the mix and for most of the game it

627
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: was not working. You wonder if that's is gonna be.

628
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna keep doing it until he gets back to

629
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: being what he was to the offense UH a year ago,

630
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: or they're going to start de emphasizing him. Um. Alvin

631
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: Kamara the catch down the sideline, he's the best all

632
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: around player in the league. I don't think. I think

633
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to deny that at this point at full health.

634
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: And then My last thought was, you know, they scored

635
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: thirty points of Saints. They didn't look good for stretches

636
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: on offense. Drew Brees does look like a lesser version

637
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: of himself, but Michael Thomas is the best, most productive

638
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the league and he's coming back after

639
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: the bye. Uh. I think the Saints are gonna continue

640
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: to put put up points, and maybe they are in

641
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: the twilight and all this, but I also could see

642
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: them running off a lot of wins before between now

643
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: and New Year's I would Dan like, where are you

644
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: if we're allowed to know this information at this point,

645
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: like for your pain ranking, not your pain rankings, but

646
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: you're you're overall power rankings? Where do the Staints like

647
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: sit there? A confusing team to put in in a

648
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: pecking order right now? For me, yeah, I have to

649
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I have to sit down and do that. They entered

650
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: week five number eleven, UM, so I think they're they're

651
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: probably gonna hang around the top ten. Um. Yeah, they're

652
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of a hard team to figure out still, but

653
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: that was a huge win. Those Taysom Hill plays, they

654
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: tell me, and they've said it for a while, they

655
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: don't trust their regular offense, especially not with Michael Thomas

656
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: on Keith third downs. I mean they're giving the ball

657
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: to their fullback on third and one and then punting

658
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: on fourth and one. They've been doing this since week one.

659
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: I think it's just a sign of like when Drew

660
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: Brees in third and nine, third and eleventh, third and eight,

661
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: they're going short of the sticks, like they're not confident

662
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: in picking up those plays. So I know you're living

663
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: Are you living on Taysom Hill right now? You're dieing

664
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: on Taysom Hill. Mark Sessler two bumbles this season already,

665
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: but he did have that play. This is not this

666
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: is not the Taysom Hill experience that attracted me to

667
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: him to begin with. I thought he was well used.

668
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: Um and you know, a gadget player is a gadget player,

669
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: and and that's probably what he is at this point.

670
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: I'm not just not impressed with his usage. I am

671
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: also not impressed also with the fact that like it

672
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: becomes a sort of plaything on Twitter to destroy the

673
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 1: human being. I mean, we get that he's not looking good,

674
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: but calm down, people, I mean, it's just like if

675
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: if a hundred and fifty other sportswriters have the same

676
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: quip that you do. You might want to go back

677
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: to the well and create something a little bit more original.

678
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just offensive to me. There's something else

679
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: going on with this Taysom Hill. I can't put my

680
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: finger on it, but the vitriol toward him. Oh, you're right,

681
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: there's be a little something else at play. Like you've

682
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: been against you've been kind of anti Taysom Hill hype.

683
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know anti, but like it's not the idea

684
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: that he was the future as there. So there's a

685
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: kernel of it in you, I would imagine. But you're

686
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: you're not going on Twitter and you know taking shots

687
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: at and why did that become a thing last night? Connor?

688
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, are you am? I? Am I being too

689
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: fiery about this? I think it's Sean Payton's fault and

690
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: just this sort of lunacy of the off season where

691
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: he was comping him to Steve Young and you know,

692
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: put the put the first round tender on and you know,

693
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: he had all the supposed insiders writing these pieces about

694
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: how you know a team is definitely going to trade

695
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: a first round pick for him, even though like everyone

696
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: else was probably sitting around in the NFL and being like,

697
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: what are you kidding? And uh so, I think he

698
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: kind of built this all up on his own. I mean,

699
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: you would your treat you were promised and under delivered,

700
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: and they paint him twenty one million dollars at quarterback

701
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: in the same offseason that Dalton and Cam and Jamis

702
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: didn't get like anything. So I think that's all playing

703
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: into it, all right, um, and yes, the Saints hit

704
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: their bye week now, Yeah, Michael Thomas punched his teammate

705
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: who was a Gardner Johnson. Yeah, um, and led to

706
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: a suspension. I thought that was a little bit murky,

707
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: just because high ankle sprain. He's so important to the offense,

708
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: a bye week was coming up. It kind of made

709
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: sense for him not to play this game anyway. I do.

710
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: There's a conspiracy theory Thomas threw the punch at Sean

711
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: Payton's direct order, um to send a message. You know,

712
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: there's a conspiracy always plugged into the underground Saints Twitter

713
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: for what was so that he could send a message.

714
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: I love it? Alright, good stuff. Monday night football recap done,

715
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: Tuesday night football recap done. Now let's do some conspiracy theories. Yes, Connor,

716
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: you are a man. I mean you once had a

717
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: podcast with Mark Cesler, the Heat and Light Podcast that

718
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: delved into conspiracies. One of the conspiracies is how did

719
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: that podcast last like three and a half episodes. We

720
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: may not never know. Well, it's interesting you brought that up, Dan,

721
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: because Mark and I have gotten ahold of some interesting

722
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: proprietary information regarding some things happening beneath the surface in Antarcticta,

723
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: and we might need to find a medium to broadcast

724
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: that information. So I would just kind of keep an

725
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: eye out for something in that regard. Yeah, I would

726
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: I clarify that it's it's information that came to us um.

727
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say from a center, but someone who had

728
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: knowledge of the show. And there's a reason the show

729
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: was essentially ended at one point that we can't get into.

730
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: But it will be returning because the information that we've

731
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: been given, it's not just Hey, this would be a

732
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: fun episode and you can just take a little jog

733
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: around town. This information that must be shared with the public. Alright,

734
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: file this under I'll believe it when I hear it.

735
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: Election altering information. Okay, guys, make sure you get it

736
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: up before November three. Trying to light a little fire

737
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: under you. It's been years. That would be the best

738
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: part is like on the eighth just like, oh sorry,

739
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: you probably should have known about this. Al Right, here

740
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: we go conspiracy theories of the NFL season. Uh, listeners

741
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: should understand that we are by no means putting this

742
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: out there is truth rather as things that we see

743
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: feel since uh could be bubbling beneath the surface of

744
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: reality or whatever people think reality is, quote unquote all right, Connor,

745
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: as today's guest in the Chris Westling chair, why don't

746
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: you get us go? All right? This is the one

747
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: that I really just got so fired up about when

748
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: I heard the first time in that is you know,

749
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: I think I have a long history of inferring that

750
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: the Manning family are sort of the shadowy power brokers

751
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: of the NFL, uh, you know, dating back to um

752
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: even before you know Archie, and you know, like this

753
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: has been going on for hundreds of years. But um,

754
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: I a listener, A listener sent this in and I

755
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: thought it was absolutely brilliant and it just all sort

756
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: of clicked for me. And that was that Cam Newton

757
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: was asked to take a dive for Peyton Manning, and

758
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: so he could win his second Super Bowl and tie

759
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: his brother Eli, and in exchange, he got the gig

760
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: with the Patriots on the back end of his career

761
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: to replace Tom Brady and win another five Super Bowls

762
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: is a dynasty. Uh. He knew that that wasn't sustainable

763
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: with Dave Gettlman in Carolina, so he took the he

764
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: took the dive. Um, and I would guess that the

765
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: fumble that he didn't go for sort of serves as

766
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: the Zuppruter film of this entire um is this entire thing. Yeah,

767
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: we know that he took a dive because he would

768
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: not dive. Yes, when the chips were down. But when

769
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: I heard that, I'm just like, I was like, this

770
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: is all all clicking. Yeah, it's all making sense. Now.

771
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: Manning had was clearly compromised as a player by that

772
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: final season. The Denver defense carried him. And yes, you're right,

773
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: it would have been a stain on his legacy if

774
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: he throws three picks in a Super Bowl fifty loss

775
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: and then goes into the sunset the goal here, I assume,

776
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: even though Brady's subsequent success probably still renders this a

777
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: conversation of Brady one, Manning two. At the time, it

778
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: was seen as Peyton is the number one guy potentially

779
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: now because he got that second rank. In addition to

780
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: all the glorious stats. I mean, there was a lot

781
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: riding on that game. My guests too, is that Brady's

782
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: adopts adaptation of a natural food diet saved him from

783
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: any sort of foul play that the Mannings were going

784
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: to try to do then to sort of just eliminate

785
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: him in any sort of way. And a little more

786
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: clu that Peyton. Yeah, um, so good for Tom. You know,

787
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: I used to kind of make fun of him for

788
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: the whole natural food advice thing, but I think growing

789
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: your own um at this point is essential. So good.

790
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Connor, the other part of this mentioning that

791
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: the Manning dynasty, this these power brokers, almost like Rothschild

792
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: type scenario, stretches hundreds of years back to well before

793
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: Archie Manning. That's that would be notable if that's accurate. Yeah, no,

794
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's one of those things where

795
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: I know we don't have time to get into it,

796
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: but you know, you look at all these different things

797
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: that happened in different wars and access powers and it

798
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: all lines up, so it all it all makes sense. Well,

799
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: it's funny you throw that out because one one of

800
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: one of mine is was connected to that, and it

801
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 1: was it was connected to the Manning family. So maybe

802
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: it's like we're hearing the same frequencies. Mine was more

803
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: connected to to the Giants of this year. Um that

804
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: they intentionally set up impossible situation um for Joe Judge,

805
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and everyone else, just to burnish Eli Manning's

806
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: legacy even more. They didn't do enough giving him that

807
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: last start last year. That pretty much the focus at

808
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: some point of the entire organization became, let's just get

809
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: Eli to the Hall of Fame. Let's try to convince

810
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: the people out there that he was better than average. Um.

811
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: And what could make people do that than going oh

812
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: and sixteen this year with a special teams coach who

813
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: has never been a head coach at any level. Greg,

814
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: you gotta meditate on this Eli Manning stuff. What else

815
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: exp's giving, gentleman? You know another year? I mean, it's

816
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: just you know it is. They are they are a

817
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: Tiffany franchise in the league, and I if I'm a

818
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: Giants fan, I'm scratching my head how I'm as bad

819
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: as little Brother the Jets right now. You know. It's

820
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: great about the Giants though, is like no matter how

821
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: bad you are, um, you get to like retire with

822
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: the idea that you're incredible, and like they just don't

823
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 1: fire anybody. They just offer you the chance to become

824
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: like a nebulous advisor. Like remember when they just like

825
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: kind of fired Tom Coughlin, but they were like, you

826
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: can still hang out and use the gym and um,

827
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: you know, and and Kevin Gilbride, they were just so

828
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: desperate to replace him, but they're like, no, he's retiring

829
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna become a super senior offensive

830
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: coordinator and and yeah, everything's gonna be fine. Like it

831
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: would be a great place to work if you know.

832
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: Every time you know, I did something horrible like that,

833
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, no, Connor's just he's being promoted.

834
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: That's all. Connor has been inside the belly of the beast.

835
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: Like the other people might call that classy, but you

836
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: you see something for what it really is. When it

837
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: comes to the Giants areas, they've been incredibly classy as

838
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: they rack up the worst record in the NFL the

839
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: last four years. Just all class in that find a

840
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: little evil in your bones. I'll go next. Alright, So

841
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: we have two Browns fans on the show today, Connor.

842
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: Some people don't know that Connors, you still Browns fan

843
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: or now that you're with the speaking of Tiffany establishment

844
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, you know, which has always been the magazine

845
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: of great esteem. Are you not allowed to have a fan?

846
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: We're not. We're not really allowed to have a writing interest,

847
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: but I will say that. Um, We're walking around with

848
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: my daughter the other day and I went through every

849
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: NFL team and I said, do you want to be

850
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: a Jets fan? A Giants fan? And she was just

851
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: saying no, no, no. And then I said what team

852
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: do you want to like? And she said, I'm going

853
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: to be a Pumpkins fan. I want to root for

854
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: the Pumpkins and so pumpkinhead. And I was like, all right,

855
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: well then it just sort of got me fired up,

856
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: and I said, we're back into this. So let's let's go.

857
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: Let's get her a let's get her a Baker Mayfield

858
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: jersey and uh, and let's let this rip. I'm back in.

859
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: That's how you got there um. All right, So here's

860
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: my conspiracy theory around the Cleveland Browns Baker Mayfield two

861
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen season comes to an end six and ten.

862
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: Mayfield played poorly. The Browns are a punchline once again.

863
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: And Mayfield he looked around and he looked at what

864
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 1: was being written about, and he looked at his production.

865
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: He looked at the Browns track record, and he got

866
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: on the phone with his agent and he said to

867
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: his agent, say yes to everything, any opportunity we have

868
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: to make bank. The answer is yes, I will not

869
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: be doing regional banking ads in Central Texas like Johnny football,

870
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: which is true when I was in Texas. Uh this

871
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: summer Johnny Manziel, that's how he's making a living now

872
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: for a Central Texas regional bank. So I think Baker

873
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: said to his agent, these are my prime earning years

874
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: right now. I no longer believe them to be for

875
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: the next ten fifteen years as a quarterback, Yes to everything,

876
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: Yes to everything, Yes to everything. And now, with the

877
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: Browns having a great start to their season at four

878
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: and one and Mayfield has been solid, he finds himself

879
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: in a bit of a pickle. He's being stretched a

880
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: little thing. He has about seven thousand commercials lined up

881
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: for the next ten years, and all of a sudden,

882
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: now he might have a career that goes that long

883
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: as well. My conspiracy theory was it was never his

884
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: plan to juggle a advertising career at this level. He

885
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: thought it was his new career, and now he needs

886
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: to figure out how to maintain multitask. Well, the two

887
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: people will be twice fast that he's he's Can I

888
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: just say that I hate everything and he's very funny,

889
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: like he's the progressive commercials are funny. I think the

890
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: bit works for me most of the time. Um, and

891
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: the thing with covering the seats with the rain thing

892
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: like that was that was funny, Like I think he's

893
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: good at it. You know. Well, it's the repetition. Can

894
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: we talk about this honeymoon scene? I mean, this is

895
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 1: this is a very dan esque line of topic topic

896
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: here and in discussion, But really, if it really was

897
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: another player, Mark, you would be on fire about the

898
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: repetition of this progressive advertisement. I feel like I already

899
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: had this conversation a year ago when I completely acknowledge

900
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: that these were they were annoying to me, but but

901
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: it was the fact that they were on four channels

902
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: at the same time when I but I think these

903
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: were made before he did his ghost Silent Act and

904
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Anyways, and I think that do you

905
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: mean they were made this? They were made this offseason?

906
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: What they did two years of taping? What well, what

907
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: else is he doing on the ad front? I'm not

908
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: he's got the Hulu um. But I think the Dan's point,

909
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: maybe this is a credit to him. There's a growing

910
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: thought that he you know, you thought like, wow, he

911
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, for an athlete, a good quarterback, he's a

912
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: solid commercial actor. But I think there's like a transitioning

913
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: happening where it's like, wow, for such a good commercial actor,

914
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: he's a pretty solid quarterback. You know. That's just like

915
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: a a little bit of a change. Don't get upset, Mark,

916
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a shot commercial of them. I completely

917
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: with any commercial commercial in general. My kids don't even

918
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: understand why commercials exist because they don't really watch normal

919
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: television that much. They watch everything on demand. So the

920
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: whole concept of commercials need they need to stay fresh,

921
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: and they these progressive commercials are the opposite. But it's

922
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,280
Speaker 1: not my fault that Baker Mayfield has a personality unlike

923
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks in the league that are getting no commercial work.

924
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: There's I mean, it's he has he he has a

925
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: good sense of humor, and he's growing as a quarterback.

926
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I mean, you know, the the other

927
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: side of the coin was why isn't Brandon Weeden on

928
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: a commercial and also a terrible quarterback? This world is preferable,

929
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: all right, sounds like everything is totally fine. Such a

930
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: damn thing to do. I'm gonna focus on the one

931
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: and only Jack easter By. Yes, okay, I want to

932
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: point to an article that p f T that this

933
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: slipped off my radar, and I think it was because

934
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 1: it was last week. It was busy October. The head line,

935
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: a question emerges about Jack Easterby's and NFL biography. I'm

936
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: just gonna read what they their investigation. This is by

937
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: Mike Florio in March, and executive with a team other

938
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: than the Texans pointed out that Easterby's online bio contends

939
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: that he served as assistant to the director of football

940
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: Operations in Jacksonville in two thousand fours first NFL job

941
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 1: today when they took a fresh look at Easterby's bio,

942
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: something had changed. The claim that he served as an

943
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: assistant to the director of football operations had been removed

944
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: in its place. The online bio said that Easterby simply

945
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: gained his first NFL experience in the summer of two

946
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: thousand four with the Jacksonville Jaguars helping in football operations

947
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: and public relations. They reached out to the Texans and said,

948
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: why was this changed made and when was it made?

949
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: They said it was a meaningless oversight in a bio

950
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: from an entry level position in Jacksonville sixteen years ago

951
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: that had no bearing on our decision to hire him

952
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: in his role that is bloomed. They said that the

953
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: change had been made in but p FT initially noticed

954
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: this in March. So something is going on here and

955
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: I want to use that as a route that Easterby

956
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: in general to me. Okay, when he was with the Patriots,

957
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: they were, in quotes livid when character coach Jackie used

958
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: to be joined the Texans. They were fired up that

959
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: he left. There is an article from a Patriots dot

960
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: com article that says, you don't know Jack Colan the

961
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: most influential Patriot you've never heard of? And it goes

962
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: on and on, listing all these people that call Jack

963
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: their favorite player, on their favorite employee on the Patriots,

964
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: that he is someone that they've all gravitated to. He

965
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: goes to the Texans, and I believe this man is

966
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: someone who I would put at like a Don Draper

967
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: Dick Whitman type level, that this is somebody with a

968
00:52:55,360 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: completely hidden, different past, who has no football experience at

969
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: all and is suddenly the general manager of the Houston Texans.

970
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: I think in his world, he is someone that sees

971
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: himself as a big circle person that must influence he is.

972
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: He has been tagged as a master influencer who cozied

973
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: up to Bill Belichick despite having completely different personalities. He

974
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: is a pastor, he is a culture coach. He is

975
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: a general manager. He creates these roles in thin air.

976
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: He now sees himself as something of an Al Davis.

977
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: He's a general manager. A coaching role will come next.

978
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: I am telling you that this is something the NFL

979
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: needs to look into. This guy has a hidden past.

980
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: I want to get to the bottom of it, and

981
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: I appreciate p FT doing some of the legwork there.

982
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: Do you think it's like a like with Don Draper

983
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: Dick Whitman. What happened with Draper and Whitman? Like if

984
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: people knew the secret, it could ruin his career. Do

985
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: you think that's there's something truly um career altering hidden

986
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: away here? I think there is a There is a

987
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: hidden past, and it's hidden for reason. Um. It's not

988
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: World War two based or World War one or some

989
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: sort of split identity like we already had. We've already

990
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: had evidence that he has altered his resume on the

991
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 1: Texans team. Bio that that's just a little seed. It's

992
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 1: like where the investigation begins. Why? Why are we doing

993
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: these things? Who was this person? Where did he grow up?

994
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 1: How is he suddenly an NFL general manager weeks ahead

995
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: of the trade deadline? I would be concerned. I can't

996
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: think of a general manager with a more nefarious hidden

997
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: backstory who rose to power is quickly from a non

998
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: football role as Jackie Easterby has. If it were happening

999
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: to my team, I would be very upset. He's gonna

1000
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:48,760
Speaker 1: run the coaching search. He's basically the headman and charge.

1001
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: There's a line that Draper says to Peggy when she's

1002
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: without giving way plot points laid up in the hospital

1003
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: bed after a health situation and it's her own secret shame,

1004
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: and Draper knows the secret, and he says, he says

1005
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: to Peggy, just move forward, move forward, don't think about it.

1006
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: If you don't think about it and never look back,

1007
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: you won't believe how easy it is to make it

1008
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: feel like it never happened. I think that's probably where

1009
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Easterby is. And now it's just on is there? You know,

1010
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: Peter Campbell type, someone lurking. Maybe it's Mark Seiler. Maybe

1011
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: you are the man to uncover Easterby an expose him.

1012
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: Do you guys ever get freaked out after these episodes

1013
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: like that someone's just gonna kick in your door, you know, like,

1014
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: holy smokes, I'm feeling it right now. Give us another one,

1015
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: Give us another one? Alright, Um, this is a good one.

1016
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: We are in danger. Um, you know, living in the

1017
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: New Jersey, New York metropolitan area. I think a lot

1018
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: of the phone calls to the fan this week and

1019
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: last week and the week before that have been you know,

1020
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: why is Adam Gaze still around? Um? All these other

1021
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: coaches have been let go? Uh, this doesn't make any

1022
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: sense And I think that the real reason that Adam

1023
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: Gaze is still embedded with the New York Jets is

1024
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: not because of his coaching acumen, but because of his

1025
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: deep knowledge of British politics. And he is secretly feeding

1026
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson, um, you know, intel information in his role

1027
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: as the ambassador UM to the United Kingdom. Uh. You know,

1028
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: maybe a few people know this, but at Michigan State,

1029
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: Adam Gaye was just deep into like just the minutia

1030
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: of localized British politics. Um, you know how all this

1031
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: stuff goes Whigs, Tories, Parliament forget about it. I mean,

1032
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: this guy was all over the place, and uh, you

1033
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: know that was really something that he had to put

1034
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: down his passion for in order to pursue, um, the

1035
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: more lucrative coaching field. But the Jets was sort of

1036
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: a marriage of those two things. And you know, I

1037
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if if they bring him back, should

1038
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson's ambassadorship continue in the UK? Interesting? M hm,

1039
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick if you keep Gaye. I

1040
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: mean that you could add that to the conspiracy that

1041
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: they're not really trying to win. I mean, there's really

1042
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: that's like a nice little bonus here. You get the

1043
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: you get the British Intel, but oh we might get

1044
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: a you know, a franchise changing pick um if they

1045
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: continue on this path. There really is no other explanation

1046
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: for like how asleep at the wheel this team is.

1047
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you that, Dan like, and

1048
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: it's it's frustrating because while I have an ability to

1049
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: watch other games, like you want the one game on

1050
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: the main TV if you don't have you know, Direct

1051
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: TV Sunday Ticket, and you know, the Jets are always

1052
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: on and it's just it's yawn inducing. And I don't

1053
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: have any fantasy players on this team, and it's just

1054
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: like it's just like a weight on my day, Like

1055
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: it's it's just sad television, you know. If you want

1056
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: to get there's one like, um secret fantasy star that

1057
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: no one knows about this year, it's Jamison Crowder who

1058
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: goes seven for one, twelve and a touchdown every week.

1059
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: The Jets score seven to ten points every week, so

1060
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: it gets lost in the mix. But there's your one

1061
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: fantasy standout. Yeah, there's gotta be something, Greg, I buy

1062
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: into that. Um, what's the point. Basically, you don't want

1063
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: to have a good record, um I I but also

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00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: the idea of the UK ambassadorship playing role. I wouldn't.

1065
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say no. I mean, well, here's the other thing,

1066
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: is like, a we certain that he's not speaking of

1067
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: the Mannings and let's bring him back in here, that

1068
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: they aren't already advising Trevor Lawrence and how to avoid

1069
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: this team like Peyton did a couple of years ago. Like,

1070
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Peyton and Gaze are like best friends though,

1071
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: so that would that would be on the surface they are.

1072
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: I wonder if Peyton Mannings like smooth. I feel like

1073
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: you can connect hers here somehow. Peyton Manning's longstanding um

1074
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: belief get out the red string, aggressive belief in Adam

1075
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: Gaze telling owner after owner that they need to hire gays.

1076
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is on the record, calling

1077
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: them up, calling up Stephen Ross, the Dolphins owner, calling

1078
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: up Woody Johnson does that that should affect Peyton Mannings

1079
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: a football executive job, by the way, that should have

1080
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: that should count as if he was running the team himself.

1081
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: Here's the red string. Cam Newton takes the dive Super

1082
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty, allowing Peyton to go out on top as

1083
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: a reward. Cam gets to have a great end of

1084
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: career with the Patriots, uh and get his career back

1085
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: on track. But the Patriots, they say, we need something

1086
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: else here. Peyton called the Jets belchick hates the Jets

1087
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: tell him to hire Gates, and then they get two

1088
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: for one. It's like, right, if we're gonna go through

1089
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: the mess of kicking Tom Brady out of town, here

1090
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: to help you out with this Cam Newton situation, so

1091
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: you can get your Super Bowl fifty love, you're gonna

1092
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: have to sweeten the pot for us. Why don't you

1093
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: give the Jets hell for another few years? Get the

1094
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: red string out? I mean I would, I would say

1095
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: that we're probably just a couple of steps removed from

1096
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: connecting easter Be to the Mannings, who was with the

1097
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: Chiefs went to New England as part of this whole

1098
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: rigamarele and is now destroying the Texans. So I mean,

1099
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's a string of mysterious individuals linked

1100
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: together here. Jack Easterby is the fourth Manning brother. It

1101
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: was so obvious, And how we didn't see that. I

1102
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: thought you were saying, we're only a step away from

1103
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: losing our jobs at the NFL at a time in

1104
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: the world where conspiracy theory they're doing some damage in

1105
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: world situations. So it's funny that I have. I have

1106
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: another one that's connected to Belichick and an ongoing pandemic

1107
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: health crisis that I'm actually not going to share for

1108
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: that exact reason. Anybody else have one. I have a

1109
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: quick one that is Atriots related, um and it is.

1110
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: It's it's very quick, and I just I think this

1111
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: will be proven true in the next couple of weeks

1112
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: that a J. Green in Cincinnati has been told before

1113
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: the season, Look, your job is to spend the first

1114
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: month plus of this NFL campaign looking like a gigantic mess. Uh.

1115
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: You've got a big salary, the Bengals are looking to

1116
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: move on and they're a completely new team. You look

1117
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: like you don't fit. That's your job. We will direct

1118
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: deposit forty grand a week into your account on top

1119
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: of your Bengal salary, and then at trade deadline for

1120
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: a song, we the New England Patriots will acquire you.

1121
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: You will suddenly look like the all pro healthy wide

1122
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: receiver that you are, and you will join Cam Newton

1123
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: in New England for what will be a celebratory a

1124
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: f C title win followed by a Super Bowl victory. Interesting,

1125
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: I felt like I I don't think I was the

1126
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: first person to point it out, but I sent out

1127
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: a video of A J. Green after Joe Burrow airmail

1128
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: to pass late in the first quarter against the Ravens

1129
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: that was intercepted by Marcus Peter. It went over Green's

1130
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: head and then he just kind of scampered away in

1131
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: the opposite direction, and that has like over half a

1132
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: million views the video I sent. I felt like I

1133
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: was snitching on A J. Green a little bit well,

1134
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: so that that video was like, that video was all

1135
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: over the place Sunday, and that's sort of where this

1136
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: where my thought of this came up, because he looked

1137
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: like he simply was completely unplugged from the motherboard. Was

1138
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: that his last snap of the game, though he did

1139
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: leave the game with an injury immediately afterwards, an injury.

1140
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, was that the play, you know? Was

1141
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: that the play he got hurt? What don't you say

1142
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: is that a conspiracy? Greg? No, I'm just saying if

1143
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: just if we checked the game log, if that was

1144
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: his last snap of the game, that, you know, I'd

1145
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: give him a little bit of a break there he's

1146
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: jogging off the field. I mean Greg is also part

1147
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: of this entire Manning family chain. Come on scenario. We

1148
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: understand that to be fair to your pro player leanings

1149
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: can only go so far. I mean that man is

1150
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: not trying. I'm saying it's a fact that he left

1151
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: the game in the first half of and didn't play

1152
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: another snap. It's not a fact that he actually is

1153
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: injured though. I don't know, Man. I think he's been

1154
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: everybody's radar since week one. It's been a strange, strange season,

1155
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: and now that feels like a spoke. But um, anybody

1156
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: else have a conspiracy theory to share? Say, I got

1157
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: it just a quick one for Mark um and I

1158
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: think that's something that maybe he believes as well. And

1159
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: that's just that Kevin Stefanski isn't a real person. He's

1160
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: uh And this isn't like playing off of the insidery

1161
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: reports that you know. He's sort of the you know,

1162
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: avatar for management. He's just a robot. I mean, I

1163
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: don't think anybody has had heard of Kevin Stefanski before

1164
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: this season. Um. I think he was built in a

1165
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: laboratory at the University of Pennsylvania and uh, and he's

1166
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: come to be UM just sort of. I think he's

1167
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: operated on the sidelines maybe by Bill Callahan. UM, and

1168
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: it just Um is programmed to make all the correct decisions,

1169
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: which is why we're just rolling, baby. And I mean

1170
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: they that would make the Week one loss to Baltimore.

1171
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: You do that on purpose so that it's not obvious

1172
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 1: that it's happening, and then and then you just roll

1173
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. There's some legs to

1174
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: that because normally after what happened in Week one, like

1175
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: coaches of old would have already been fighting with with

1176
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: Cleveland media, which is a you know, it can be

1177
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: a rather contankerous crew on its own, and Stefanski just

1178
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: super even keeled during it. Um. I think that there

1179
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: they want to be an analytically driven so probably when

1180
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: they created this robot, he was doaused with analytical football

1181
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: analytical knowledge. I think they made it maybe a little

1182
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,919
Speaker 1: bit too good looking for a head coach. You gotta

1183
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 1: you gotta toned down his sort of tidy, clean, um

1184
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: hot forty year old guy thing if you want this

1185
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: to be believable, because right I think there's cracks in

1186
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: the surface, no doubt, I didn't. I didn't want to

1187
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: share this because it was striking to me. The last

1188
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 1: League event before the pandemic was the scouting combine and

1189
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: I saw him plugged in. It was a plug coming

1190
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: out of his back when he was at the podium,

1191
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: and was it strange to me that it did? Were

1192
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: there ringing of alarm bells, of course, But I didn't

1193
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: know if there was a medical situation or you know,

1194
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: if you had some type of thing going on. So

1195
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: I didn't bring it up on the podcast. I didn't

1196
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: even say it to you guys, because it felt almost

1197
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: like it was violating his privacy because I was behind

1198
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: him when I saw the wire. But now you gotta

1199
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: connect out here, get the red string out. Yeah, I

1200
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: think you're doing Dan. I would say if you if

1201
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: you see another human being being plugged in next time,

1202
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: I would break that news. I would come forward with that. Yeah.

1203
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: I sat on it, and maybe I shouldn't know. All right,

1204
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: Productive show today, Productive show, Connor, You've said it all,

1205
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: you've done it all, and you're gonna do a lot more.

1206
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: You're only thirty two. How about that. That's the biggest

1207
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: surprise of the season a legend or just thirty two

1208
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: years old? How does that feel? Uh, it's not bad,

1209
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, I rebounded. Um, I had like a I

1210
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 1: had like a forty eight year old bod for a

1211
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: little while, Like I was just kind of Bod's been

1212
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 1: looking tighter on the Graham. I've noticed that I've been

1213
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: running a little bit, you know. Um, And so I

1214
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: think I've come to accept that. Like when I was

1215
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 1: twenty eight, I felt like I was forty five, But

1216
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: now I'm trying to feel more like them thirty two.

1217
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: So that's the goal. Yeah, good stuff, buddy, and glad

1218
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: to see that you are well, and I hope the

1219
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: family is as well. Growing family you have. Yeah, thanks, Yeah,

1220
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: we've got another one coming. And I'll just you know,

1221
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: thanks for letting me sit in west if you're listening,

1222
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: Love you, buddy, and uh and we'll talk to you soon. Awesome.

1223
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: Did not did I know another one was coming? Look

1224
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: at you? I don't know. I mean is to me

1225
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: as well. I'm in his future room right now. He's

1226
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: uh you know, so oh that is exciting. Yeah, all right,

1227
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: excellent news there. Uh you around the NFL podcast family

1228
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,120
Speaker 1: getting bigger. Connor, thank you for joining us. We'll be

1229
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: back on Thursday. Yes, so no Thursday Night Football mini pod,

1230
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: but we will have a full week six preview uh

1231
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: for you to enjoy with a special guest sitting in

1232
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: the West Chair for an entire episode on Thursday as well.

1233
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 1: So a lot to look forward to here. Thank you

1234
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: once again, Connor. This is Dan Hanson signing off for

1235
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Mailman in Absentia, Ricky Hollywood behind the

1236
01:07:41,080 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: Virtual glass or you kidding until Thursday. S