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Speaker 1: Here's the show. Welcome to everybody through Victory Monday from

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Speaker 1: the Unday Texans Radio studio. It is Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: on Monday after victory. How about that and what a

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Speaker 1: big victory it was. We've talked about it all day.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, football analyst and Sideline Report.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you being here with me to night. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a little bit from Specer to him, a little

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Speaker 1: like to kick off a Monday's show with what happened

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Speaker 1: throughout the league because there's so much to kind of

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Speaker 1: work through, if you will, with everything that was taking

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Speaker 1: place and took place this weekend in the world of

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Speaker 1: NFL football, and it was. It was a wild weekend.

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Speaker 1: I gotten to this point where I truly, truly believe

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Speaker 1: be that way. It's just a crazy, crazy week and

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Speaker 1: this week, this weekend was about that. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: really was. The Texans getting twenty four to twenty one

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Speaker 1: win in Nashville. I love going to Nashville. It's one

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Speaker 1: And I love going to Jacksonville because that's where my

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Speaker 1: So happy anniversary, baby. If you're listening wherever you are,

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Speaker 1: just kidding. But point being, I love going up there,

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Speaker 1: one in twenty eighteen kind of flip the script. No Gabbett,

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Speaker 1: the challenge psychologically motivation is there, but just the psychological

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Speaker 1: challenge of that spencer, Yeah, I mean it's huge, It

429
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Speaker 1: really is huge, and I think we have to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: that part of human personality. I mean, I think we

431
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Speaker 1: can say this some morning radio. My dad had this

432
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: old expression, why does a dog room himself because he can?

433
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Speaker 1: You know, And I know that sounds rude and vulgar

434
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: to some people, but again, when you know that possibility

435
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: is there, it takes everything you have and depending on

436
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: how you're wired to recess that to put that in

437
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Speaker 1: the back of your mind. You know. The bottom line

438
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: is that they're human beings and we've known they demonstrated

439
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: in the past. Otherwise the Broncos wouldn't have beat you.

440
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: So again, I will believe it when I see it.

441
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: I think you have to take this team week by week.

442
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: They didn't demonstrated at the highest level how to handle

443
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Speaker 1: a business trip this past week. Let me tell you something.

444
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: There was not one phase of that game, saving maybe

445
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: two decisions that number four may that I think wouldn't

446
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: be in the top tier of performances overall this year

447
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: in terms of how they responded after being tied and scored.

448
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: Even before you get to that, I think the most

449
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: important play was actually the field goal block. I think

450
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Speaker 1: the way that balls set up on the left hash

451
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: and way you know, the way that they set up

452
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Speaker 1: the stunt. They basically moved down a man to create

453
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Speaker 1: pressure on that that b gap and put about twelve

454
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Speaker 1: hundred pounds of manhood in that area to create just

455
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Speaker 1: enough of a difference with a low lining kick to

456
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Speaker 1: get a hand on. And Angelo did a fantastic job

457
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Speaker 1: of keeping that med up there in baching it. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think you want to be in a tie

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Speaker 1: ball game on the road. Given the history of this series.

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Speaker 1: You got to go back to December twenty seventh of

461
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen to find where a road team actually won

462
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Speaker 1: that contest, and that was the Texans in Tennessee. So

463
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Speaker 1: the tradition has been in the history, has been in

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Speaker 1: this series, the home teams defends this territory and until yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and that's been a four year stretch. So I think

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Speaker 1: that that play, that block punt to me, along with

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Speaker 1: the interception with Whitney and that read teamed up on,

468
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Speaker 1: were the two most significant plays in that game. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about Spencer, Tillman, Spencer, this team just overall, like

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Speaker 1: you just said, going on the road and winning a

471
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Speaker 1: ballgame like that after having lost a game to the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos the week before, and I asked, I asked

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Speaker 1: Kenny about it after, you know, after the game, like

474
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Speaker 1: What does this say about your team? In your opinion?

475
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Speaker 1: What does it say about this team that they can

476
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Speaker 1: go on the road and beat Kansas City, and they

477
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Speaker 1: can go to London and play the way they did

478
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Speaker 1: against the Jags and then go to a hostile environment

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Speaker 1: like Tennessee and get a one on the road when

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Speaker 1: both or eight and five. What does it say about

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Speaker 1: this team's ability to go on the road and play

482
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Speaker 1: pretty well for the most part. Listen, here's the difficult truth, guys.

483
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Speaker 1: I used to talk to Nick Saban about this all

484
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Speaker 1: the time. The greatest ability is dependability. When you can

485
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Speaker 1: be consistent. I will take a back that maybe a

486
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Speaker 1: beat slower than another one, but I will take the

487
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Speaker 1: one that will handle the football, who will not make

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Speaker 1: a mental era, and if he's anywhere close to what

489
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Speaker 1: my peak athlete is, I'm going to take that other

490
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Speaker 1: back because I know if one has a problem with

491
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: fumbling the football and he happens to be more athletic,

492
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Speaker 1: maybe I dial things back and try to get some

493
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Speaker 1: explosives somewhere else. But you can ill afford to have

494
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: the turnover. So again, I think you take that same

495
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Speaker 1: temperate or that mindset about what you know is proven

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Speaker 1: to win, and you apply it to everything. And that,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is a profound question. It's a simple question,

498
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: but a profound question. And it's a fair question. You

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Speaker 1: ask those difficult questions because it speaks to the human condition.

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Speaker 1: We all are in those situations. I remember reading a

501
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Speaker 1: poem years ago. I think it was Givens that said,

502
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Speaker 1: the mind is its own place, and in itself can

503
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Speaker 1: create a heaven out of hell, a hell out of heaven.

504
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: The bottom line is you create what you're going to do,

505
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: and that becomes your reality. But the only way you

506
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: can judge it is after the game. You can sit

507
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Speaker 1: here and bump your gums and tell me what you're

508
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Speaker 1: gonna do and how you're gonna But the only thing

509
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Speaker 1: I can judge to determine whether or not you did

510
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Speaker 1: it is what the score says. And what you did

511
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Speaker 1: is I look at the tape after the game is

512
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Speaker 1: over with. And until you do that on a consistent

513
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Speaker 1: enough basis, I won't know what you really are. And

514
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Speaker 1: that's a fair position for a coach to be in.

515
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: And you shrug your shoulders, and I think that doubt

516
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: is part of the psychologist as well. Coach doesn't need

517
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Speaker 1: to necessarily be all in all the time. You need

518
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Speaker 1: to be reserved and no when to dial it back

519
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, to pull your guys back in by

520
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: a mission. You just don't say anything. You don't give

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00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: them praise, you don't do a lot of anything. If

522
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: you have a team that's do plicibus, you dial it back.

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Speaker 1: You said, I don't know what you guys are. When

524
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: you give me four or five, six, seven, eight and

525
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: nine of these in a row, then maybe we can

526
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: talk more about it. You're not disrespectful. You just acknowledge

527
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: the condition they're in right now and you continue to

528
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: build on them. Spencer, the Bucks have won four games

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Speaker 1: in a row. They've been out of it for a

530
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Speaker 1: long time. They knew the postseason was not a possibility

531
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Speaker 1: for a long time. But here they are putting on

532
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: a show seven and seven. A winning season would be

533
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: a nice achievement for them. So that's their motivation right now.

534
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: And this is another thing. So I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about that and going into Saturday and how fired

536
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Speaker 1: up they might be for this one. The other thing

537
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Speaker 1: is this, this is one of those teams. They're number

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Speaker 1: one in rushing yards allowed, seventy three However, number thirty

539
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: in passing yards allowed. Because they're in a lot of shootouts,

540
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: they give it up through the air. Teams are throwing

541
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Speaker 1: at them because I guess they feel like it's easier.

542
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I think the Texans are going to try to run

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Speaker 1: on them. Your thoughts, Yep, absolutely, you don't want to

544
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Speaker 1: get in the shootout with a guy. And again, it's

545
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Speaker 1: not necessarily that you are disrespecting or you put your

546
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Speaker 1: ego up. You do not want to get in the shootout.

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Speaker 1: The four fifty back to back plus is impressive, and

548
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: that's all window dressing. What you want to do is

549
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: shorten this game. Get your run game warden working articulate

550
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: to your receivers who have performed at a high level. Hey, look, guys,

551
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to eat clock. We're gonna try to

552
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: run this game. But when we hit these explosives, we're

553
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: gonna need to hit them to make them defend the pass. Right.

554
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: But we're not trying to get into a shootout with

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Speaker 1: these guys. And so I would run the football. I

556
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: would get ready from Carlos Hide. I've tried to get

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Speaker 1: to that twelve one a yard mark. You know you

558
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: should have one hundred and fifty yards. I believe at

559
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: a minimum he should have won fifty. I think that

560
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: that's going to be the game plan coming in. I

561
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Speaker 1: think the fact that they're going to be down a

562
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Speaker 1: receiver is gonna make them a little bit more predictable

563
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. Their run game

564
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: is awful, so I think they're gonna be kind of

565
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Speaker 1: one dimensional, and I think you've got a chance to

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Speaker 1: really shut him down. I think it's a solid approach

567
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: to take. I think Romeo will daw something up defensively

568
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: to give Jim Winston enough of a challenge. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think you need to get exotic with these people.

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00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: You just need to get a run game, shorten it,

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Speaker 1: get some explosives, and get out of there. He's dead right.

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Speaker 1: I love Florida as much as anybody in a month

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Speaker 1: of December, but I want to get in, get a win,

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Speaker 1: and get out, get a hat and T shirt for

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Speaker 1: everybody on the plane, and let's go home. But gotta

576
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Speaker 1: take care of business this week and Saturday before that. No,

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Speaker 1: a big thanks to Spencer Tillman for joining us on

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Speaker 1: the show. Come up next, It's nineteen eighty nine. Heisman

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Speaker 1: Trophy winner Andre Ware, who celebrated the thirtieth anniversary of

580
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Speaker 1: winning the award back in nineteen eighty nine at University Houston.

581
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Speaker 1: He was up in New York with the Heisman ceremony

582
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Speaker 1: and then joined us on Sunday morning to get ready

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Speaker 1: for the game against AH. We'll get his thoughts about

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Speaker 1: the Titans game yesterday and looking forward to the Bucks

585
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Speaker 1: coming up on Texans All Access. We've got one final

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Speaker 1: segment of Texans All Access on this wonderful Monday evening

587
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Speaker 1: from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am your host, John Harris.

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Speaker 1: Your Texans are nine in five in my voices, oh

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00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: in sixteen. He's struggling. I don't know. Maybe I need

590
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of that Florida weather on Friday and

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00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: Saturday next week to kind of bring it back. I

592
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Speaker 1: don't know, but we'll get through the show because we

593
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Speaker 1: got a good friend, Andre Ware joining us, and we

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Speaker 1: talked about any number of things. Unfortunately, we didn't get

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00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: into high span. I want to maybe on Wednesday we'll

596
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Speaker 1: get into that trip because he was giving us a

597
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Speaker 1: little bit of highlights yesterday as we're getting on a

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Speaker 1: plane to fly out after the win and it sounded

599
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: really cool, and that's got to be such a cool

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00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: fraternity to be a part of. But we talked to

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Speaker 1: Andrea about many different things, including what he thought about

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00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: the win and where it could take this team. Dre

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00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: the Texans are nine and five, they clinch a winning season,

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Speaker 1: and they're on their way to a playoff berth. If

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Speaker 1: they can win Saturday against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, that's

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Speaker 1: the best way in what's your assessment of the situation? Yeah,

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00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you just win, you take care of your

608
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: own business, and then next the following week you can

609
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: rest some players and and get ready for the postseason.

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00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: So get some guys mended up. So it's it's right

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00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: there in front of you. You take care of Tennessee

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00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: by basically taking care of Tampa Bay. But it won't

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Speaker 1: be easy going on the road. And the way the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers are playing, Bruce arians Arians has been

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00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: playing well. Jameis Winston has played outstanding the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Yesterday I think he threw for four four

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Speaker 1: fifty eight and four touchdowns. It won't be an easy

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Speaker 1: deal going into Tampa, but I don't think in any

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Speaker 1: game in the NFL will be is an easy deal,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. We found out found that out the

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Speaker 1: hard way against the Denver Broncos. As Mark I started

622
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: the show, we were kind of like two kids on

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00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: like a dozen pixie sticks. We're kind of all over

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Speaker 1: the play because there were so many different things to

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00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: kind of talk about in this one. But what's the

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00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: first thing that stood out to you about the win

627
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: the Texans got yesterday? Was it special teams? Was it

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00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: Deshaun de Kinny Stills? Was it hop in the fourth quarter?

629
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Speaker 1: Was it the defense? What stood out to you the

630
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: most about that win yesterday? I think it had to

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Speaker 1: be the defense, Johnny, because early in the game, you know,

632
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: Tannio was really struggling, and you're talking about one of

633
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: the hotter quarterbacks in the league. And in the last

634
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: seven eight weeks or we're basically seven weeks where he'd

635
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: gone six and one as a starter, he completed like

636
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: seventy three percent of his passes, and the following the

637
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: previous week had completed about seventy eight on someone so

638
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: to kind of stym me him. I know, at one

639
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: point he was one for six for just the sixty

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00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: yard completion up the sideline. They really had him off

641
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Speaker 1: ballance and I think that's the thing that stood out

642
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: because he figured it out at halftime and he came

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Speaker 1: out and scored twenty one, twenty one points in the

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Speaker 1: second half, But in the first half it was he

645
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Speaker 1: was totally confused. Andre where joining us on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Jameis Winston here. I want

647
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Speaker 1: to get back to the game in a moment. But

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Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, that's the quarterback on Saturday, and it just

649
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Speaker 1: feels so close that this game it's just a a

650
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Speaker 1: few days away. Winston leads the league in passing yard's

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Speaker 1: forty five hundred and seventy three thirty touchdowns, but he's

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Speaker 1: got twenty four picks. What do you make of Jameis

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Speaker 1: Winston at this stage of his career? On right? Based

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Speaker 1: on what you've seen, I probably guess you haven't seen

655
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Speaker 1: tons of Winston film yet, But what do you think? Yeah,

656
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Speaker 1: it's kind of a mixed bag because with every game

657
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Speaker 1: he's and he's had to play like he's had the

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Speaker 1: last last couple of weeks to where the touchdown interception

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Speaker 1: ratio has flipped itself the way it has, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just about consistency there, and there's so many coaches

661
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: that have I'm in and out the door. There's so

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Speaker 1: many players, a lot of turnaround where you're trying to

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Speaker 1: build chemistry with guys, and I don't know if fans

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Speaker 1: really understand just how difficult that is to have success

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position in the NFL when you have

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Speaker 1: a revolving door of players and coaches. It's a tough,

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Speaker 1: tough deal when you can lock down. I mean, take

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady for instance, where you have one coach and

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Speaker 1: now I think he's going through it a little bit

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Speaker 1: in terms of the chemistry from a players standpoint, there

671
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Speaker 1: are on a whole lot of weapons around Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: yet he's asked to be the same player is or

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Speaker 1: has been. You're only as good at that position as

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Speaker 1: what's around you and the consistency within the playbook, and

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Speaker 1: that comes with a coaching staff that has been there

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Speaker 1: for quite some time. So Jamis has suffered through that.

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Speaker 1: I think he's finally understanding Bruce Arian's offense and Baron

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Speaker 1: Leftwidge the quarterback of the play caller, a quarterback coach,

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and play caller. They're finally starting the miss

680
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Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they finished

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Speaker 1: the season nine and seven and Jamis is back with

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Speaker 1: a new contract in Tampa. Well playing this way, man,

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Speaker 1: that guy's he's been phenomenal. Now he'll give you a few.

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Speaker 1: And that to me leads me to this point, Dre.

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Speaker 1: If you're a defensive coordinator preparing for the Texans and Stills, Fuller,

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Speaker 1: and Hopkins are all healthy, and Carlos Johnson are both healthy,

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Speaker 1: how do you attack stopping this offense? What would what

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Speaker 1: would you do? Because it felt like yesterday there were

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Speaker 1: times where the Titans had really no answers where Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna play man coverage because we respect the run,

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00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: and then they'd burn man coverage and there where times

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Speaker 1: we're like, we just gotta play zone because we can't

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Speaker 1: cover these guys and drop a couple of safeties deep

694
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Speaker 1: and then they'd run the ball pick up seven eight yards.

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Speaker 1: How would you go about slowing this offense down right

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Speaker 1: now with everybody healthy? Yeah, I think I'll take the

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00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: Broncos approach to it, and they mixed coverages a lot.

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Speaker 1: You have to have it can get after the quarterback

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: and guys that are athletic that can get after the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: the von Miller types that can redirect their bodies and

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Speaker 1: create havoc. You've got to have two middle pass rushers

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Speaker 1: that can push the pocket to really not allow just

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Speaker 1: Shaun once things break down or he feels the pressure

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Speaker 1: coming from outside to step up into the pocket. I

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Speaker 1: would live in some man a little bit because I

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00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: think you have to with him, he'll pick your pardon

707
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: zone coverage. But you have to have guys on the

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Speaker 1: back end that can hold up the way the Broncos did.

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Speaker 1: And yesterday, I think it's proven that Tennessee just doesn't

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Speaker 1: have enough for Dory Jackson was out of that ball

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00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: game and they had him listed as a starter at

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Speaker 1: one point in the season, but they don't have enough

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Speaker 1: on the back end to play it. So therefore they

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Speaker 1: couldn't do it. And it just was a methodical approach

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Speaker 1: that when they did jump into some man, they got

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Speaker 1: gous for some big play. So their method of doing

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Speaker 1: it is a little bit different based on personnel. But

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Speaker 1: if you have the personnel the Broncos head, you could

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Speaker 1: actually slow it down a little bit where you can

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Speaker 1: compete and even with all of that, all of what

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Speaker 1: I just said. It was a three point game yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so you know, it wasn't like the Texans went out

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Speaker 1: and and blew them out with you know, put up

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Speaker 1: thirty eight forty points. It was a twenty four point game,

725
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Speaker 1: and it was still a game well into the fourth quarter.

726
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: They could finish drives better, and Bill O'Brian talked about

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Speaker 1: that with Johnny after the game, that they still have

728
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Speaker 1: to get better at finishing drives because you looked at

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Speaker 1: the turnover on the first drive where they threw the

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Speaker 1: pick and then yeah, you look at the situations like that, Andre,

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00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: they got to get better and they definitely were better

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Speaker 1: in the pre snap penalty department. Only one false start

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Speaker 1: right that was Will Fuller's and holding penalties and things

734
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Speaker 1: like that. That cut down dramatically on those types of mistakes.

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Speaker 1: So it was a good positive trend, but they got

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Speaker 1: to keep it going into another road game. In the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be lucky sometimes, and when you play teams,

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Speaker 1: teams are talented teams are they get lucky at times

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Speaker 1: when you're unlucky, and yesterday when you throw two interceptions

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Speaker 1: and you're down close to the red zone, or you

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Speaker 1: throw one that's that's picked off in the end zone

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Speaker 1: and brought out and then the other one is is

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Speaker 1: going in. And you make those types of mistakes as

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00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: a good portion or good percentage of the time, you're

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00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: gonna get yourself beat. But when you can overcome it

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Speaker 1: the way they did. And to go back to the

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Speaker 1: first half, and when Tennessee couldn't score point, as you

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Speaker 1: think about it, they're driving down. When Tannehill throws that

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Speaker 1: the reflected interception, they go in there, we're looking at

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Speaker 1: a different ballgame because there's points in the first half

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00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: of that game as opposed to the twenty one that

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Speaker 1: they scored in the second half. You may be looking

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Speaker 1: at a different outcome. So you've got to be lucky

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00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: at times to win in the NFL. And I think

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Speaker 1: you know you know that any coach would tell you

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Speaker 1: in his right minded Hey, it takes a little bit

757
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: of that to win sometimes. Dre when you were in Detroit,

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00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: did any fans meet you guys at the airport in

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Speaker 1: minus or in minus temperatures at two o'clock in the

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Speaker 1: morning after you guys came back from a game like

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Speaker 1: the Bills fans did last night. Jelsee this. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: they were the Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say, how I don't know how much you've

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00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: got to see a Buffalo because we haven't played Buffalo

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Speaker 1: this year, but Josh Allen has made some strides. Not perfect.

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Speaker 1: It looked really good on Thanksgiving, but they get a

767
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: big win at Pittsburgh. It's the first time they played

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night, I think, on NBC for forever, and

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Speaker 1: they they were tough defensively. Buffalo is gonna be a

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Speaker 1: tough out for whoever they play when they get in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, because they clinched the playoffs. Bob, what do

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Speaker 1: you think of Buffalo going forward? Yeah, I mean Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: he justic basically causes a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: concern for you because he's way more athletic than you think,

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Speaker 1: and he is a willing runner and that forces you

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Speaker 1: defensively to play eleven on eleven. And so you go

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Speaker 1: back and look at just comparing them, and they may

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Speaker 1: be a foe of the Texans in the playoffs. Go

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00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: back and look at the teams that have beaten the

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Speaker 1: Texans this year, and the majority of them had guys

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00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: that aren't afraid to pull the ball down and make

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00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: plays with their legs, and the guys that are stationary

783
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Speaker 1: that can't run. It is a great deal of success

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00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: that's had there, but the ones that frustrates you forced

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Speaker 1: you to play eleven on eleven. And he's certainly that

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00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: that type of player. He's the consistency's growing in his

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00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: game in terms of the passing game and him seeing

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00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: things more and more. They've got a running game that

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00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: can kind of keep you off balance or just enough

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Speaker 1: to where the play action works. And defensively they're getting

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Speaker 1: enough and so it's a dangerous team, a young team

792
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: that they don't know any better. Right now, they're just

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Speaker 1: having fun. It hasn't happened in a long time in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I guess they will make the playoffs now too. Out

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Speaker 1: of the last three years, but this kind of consistency

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Speaker 1: and winning hasn't happened in Buffalo a lot, which explains

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Speaker 1: the fans being at the airport at that hour. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, to clinch a playoff, Berth, really, if you

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Speaker 1: beat the Patriots, beat him at the airport. Yeah, that

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00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: was not airport greeting worthy. And besides, Pittsburgh had the

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00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: ball later a couple of times, chance to win that game,

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Speaker 1: Duck Hodgen, Yeah, I mean, I mean, this is the

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Speaker 1: fan base that has fans chumping out of the Hines

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00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: Field stands onto a table trying, you know, doing a

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00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: wrestling move on the table as they do. Bills Mafia

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00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: has toag Bills Mafia. This is a crazy fan base.

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00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: They're not, They're a different level. Drey. You're calling the

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00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl with Oklahoma State and

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00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. And have you done the Bowl before?

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00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: I know you're on the committee and everything and highly

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Speaker 1: involved in a griniron legend. Have you called the game?

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00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: It has been a long long time. I think the

813
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: Bowl was called something else and owned by someone else

814
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. So it's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long long time since I've called it.

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00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: But it's good to be a part of it, and this, uh,

817
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 1: this magnitude, and then as well being able to stay

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00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: home for the holidays, and then I gotta go right

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Speaker 1: back out. This is where it lives, because I go

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00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: right back out to Birmingham to call Boston College and

821
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati on the second. So but this one I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to. It's a great match up with the Aggies

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Speaker 1: and and the Oklahoma State Cowboys. Two Big Eight or

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Speaker 1: Big Twelve teams at one point or another that faced

825
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: one another in conference, so this should be a good one.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State has a great following and we know about

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Speaker 1: the Aggies here in Houston. I love Texas football football

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Speaker 1: of all kind. I cannot wait for the Academy Sports

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Speaker 1: and Outdoors Texas Bowl, Oklahoma State taking on Texas A

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Speaker 1: and AM. I just love having a rivalry game back

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Speaker 1: and having it in a bowl game where you can

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Speaker 1: resuscitate in some sense what a rivalry rivalry like that

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00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: was they were both together in the Big Twelve. I'm

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Speaker 1: really looking forward to Oklahoma State taking on Texas A

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Speaker 1: and M. News last week justin Mattabeka, the star defensive

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00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: alignment for A and M to quit for the draft

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Speaker 1: and said he will not play in that Texas Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Not hurt about Chuba Hubbard just yet. Hopefully he's gonna play,

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00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: because in the city of Houston has not seeing Chuba Hubbard.

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Speaker 1: Who get ready? He is fun to watch kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermir of course are good friend. Andre ware a

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00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: good friend Spencer Tillman. All of you guys are all

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00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: of our good friends for listening to show and supporting

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio colts. These Saints coming up next, don't turn

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Speaker 1: that dial. Thank you again everybody. We'll see them row

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00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 1: as always Go Texans