1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Clubs. This is Girls Talk, 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Boys Talk, presented by Invisi Line, trusted by over five 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, and broadcasting live 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. Now your host, 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Nicole Hutchison. 7 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: Who welcome in to Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: vis A Line. 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: Today. You know, it's today is Today? 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: It's all right, We're going to this ABC studio, Nicole Hugson, 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: Isha Moors and Justinavares and Christy Scales. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 4: How y'all doing, ladies? All right? 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: What in the Rick flat? 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's giving, Rick Flair. 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: It's giving. 16 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Today's long day. This week has been a very long week. 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: Oh man. 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: It's okay, though, I think I'm just filling like the 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: energy and like not lack thereof of just the Zach 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: Martin news, you know. 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 6: So I think it's all getting to me a little bit. 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm in denial. It's okay, Yeah. 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: All right, all right, Well you ladies didn't get a 24 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: chance to talk about the loss of Zach Martin. We 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: did yesterday, but I just want to get y'all's thoughts. 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 6: Christy skills, you go, Yeah, I'm going to bring us 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 6: smile now, Jazz our producer, I'm going to turn a camera. 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 6: I'm going to turn to the camera behind me because 29 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 6: i want everyone to get a. 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: Look at this outfit. 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 4: Can we see the big Jazz? 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 6: Can we switch so that everyone can see this T shirt? 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 6: This is my favorite Zach Martin. 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 5: Here we go. 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: I am screaming model. 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: I survived. 37 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 6: Oh, I survived the Extreme Stadium Tour. 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 4: I feel like he's staring at me. 39 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 6: So this is February of twenty fifteen, and Zach is 40 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 6: just a day removed from playing in his first Pro Bowl. 41 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 6: And yes, he did go to a Pro Bowl his 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 6: rookie season, Cowboys first round draft pick that year. And 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 6: that was back when we had just started for Dallascowboys 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 6: dot com. We had a microsite named five Points Blue 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 6: like the Five Points of the Blue Cowboy Star, and 46 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 6: it was focused on female fans. We had a podcast, 47 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 6: it was a microsite. Wrote stories for it and there 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 6: were several ladies in the building that contributed different things. 49 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 6: Back then, the sports nutritionist, she was female Amy, so 50 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 6: she would do stuff for the site and so we 51 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 6: had this great thing set up at at and T 52 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 6: Stadium and it was an extreme tour. The building engineer 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 6: took us up along the roofline and we could see 54 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 6: how everything opened, and we climbed a fire escape kind 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 6: of thing hatched to get to the very top. We 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 6: had this all set up a video to put on 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 6: our five Points Blue Dallascowboys dot com website. And as 58 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 6: we're meeting at four o'clock in Entry, a coming out 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 6: of the Pro Shop is Zach Martin. He's just gotten 60 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 6: back from the Pro Bowl and two of his buddies 61 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 6: are with him. They are carrying bags they've been buying 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 6: all this Cowboys merchandise. And I turned to the building 63 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 6: engineer and said, can I invite Zach because it'd be 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 6: really cool for our video if we have a Pro 65 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 6: Bowl rookie with us. It's like, it's all right with me, Hey, Zach, 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 6: We're going to go climb on the roof. Do you 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 6: want to go with us? And Zack's eyes got real big, 68 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 6: not in a good way, but like huh. Whereas the buddies, 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 6: Joey is best friend, is like oh yeah, So poor 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 6: Zach gets dragged along on this stadium tour, and there's 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 6: one point of this stadium tour where it's two hundred 72 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 6: and ninety feet above the field. Okay, we're two hundred 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 6: and ninety feet above the visitor's sideline and you climb, 74 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 6: you walk up this ramp to get to what is 75 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 6: the same as a as a ladder that's like a 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 6: fire escape, and below us is a grate that is 77 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 6: the size of a kitchen mat, and that is the 78 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 6: only thing between us and the sideline two hundred and 79 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 6: ninety feet below. I go first, I look down and 80 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 6: I see Zach coming up second, and I'm thinking to myself, 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 6: I'm so fired. 82 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: I am so fired. 83 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 6: I am so fired. Who what idiot would invite the 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 6: football player to come do this? And I'm like, if 85 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 6: he falls and dies, I'm just jumping right behind him because. 86 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: Jerry will kill me. 87 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 88 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 7: And we did so. 89 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 6: It was so much fun. It was so awesome. We 90 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 6: got to see some really cool things up there, the architecture, 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 6: the engineering, it's absolutely incredible. But a couple months later, 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 6: we're celebrating the one year anniversary of Five Points Blue, 93 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 6: and so we're going to have this banquet. So we're 94 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 6: coming up with some ideas what can we do that's fun? 95 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 6: And I say, why don't we have some T shirts made? 96 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 6: Like I survived the Extreme Tour, And not only did 97 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboys Merchandising make it for like the five or 98 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 6: six of us ladies that did it, they did one 99 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 6: for Zach Martin and for his two buddies. I've had 100 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 6: this T shirt since then, and at the last week 101 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 6: of training camp every year in Oxnard, Zack and I 102 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 6: take a picture together and his buddy still has the 103 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 6: shirt and it's from his hometown. At zach sometown, Indianapolis, 104 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 6: whenever he comes into town two or three times a 105 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 6: year to watch Zach play, he wears the T shirt. 106 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 6: So this is our tradition. This is our special thing 107 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 6: between the two of us that I told Zach when 108 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 6: you're inducted in Canton into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 109 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 6: I'm gonna wear this to your induction ceremony. And of 110 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 6: course he's so humbly, He's like, oh, you know, I 111 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 6: don't know about that. I'm like the rest of us know. So, yeah, 112 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 6: it's packed and ready for Canton. 113 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 4: That's pretty nice. I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. 114 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a wonderful dude. I'm just we thirty four 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 6: years with the Cowboys and they're, you know, the pros pro. 116 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 6: I was talking with Brandon Cooks about this in the 117 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 6: locker room earlier today. The term that's the ultimate compliment, 118 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 6: right when someone is called a prose pro. Brandon Cooks 119 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 6: has been called that, and it's absolutely appropriate. Zach Martin 120 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 6: has been called that, absolutely appropriate. So I asked Brandon 121 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 6: Cooks today, what is it that you, as a fellow 122 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 6: prose pro, appreciate about what Zach has done? And he's 123 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 6: just talking about just what it takes to be prepared, 124 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 6: especially playing that position just so many years and at 125 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 6: such a high level. And you know, again, Zach has 126 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 6: not said if he's going to retire or not, but 127 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 6: we know he's not playing the rest of this season. 128 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 6: And when Mike McCarthy announced it yesterday at the beginning 129 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 6: of his press conference, I was blinking hard a few 130 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 6: times because it's just like, oh, man, just hate it 131 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 6: for him. He's been a good friend and he's a 132 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 6: wonderful person. And I know you mentioned yesterday he's the 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 6: Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee for the Dallas Cowboys, 134 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 6: and it's certainly well deserved. 135 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 5: Man, Christy, not you're gonna make me on, I can't. 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 5: The only thing I can say is, I guess my 137 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 5: memory with Zach is in recent times, because obviously we're still. 138 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: Fairly new here. 139 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 5: And when Ayisha and I were first allowed to go 140 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 5: in the locker room our first year was because of Christy. 141 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 5: Christy really was like, hey, come shadow me for a day, 142 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 5: like you're gonna learn a lot. We shadowed her for 143 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 5: a day and he was the first one that I 144 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 5: talked to in that locker room. Mind you, never had 145 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: been in an NFL locker room before, never had experienced 146 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 5: that on like that side. And I was so nervous. 147 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: I was like, holy dath, Martin is like right here. 148 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 5: What do I even ask him? And I remember I 149 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 5: had some questions, but I was like, I'm sorry, I'm 150 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: so nervous. 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: Like I even told him that He's like. 152 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 5: That's okay, okay, Like he was so encouraging of it, 153 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 5: because I was like, this is literally my first time 154 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: in here, Like he's like, yeah, I know, like you know, 155 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 5: but he was very encouraging, very nice. We got through 156 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: the questions I had to ask him and I realized 157 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 5: I wasn't even recording it. 158 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 3: Uh, so. 159 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: You know, so then I went back. I went back 160 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 5: after the locker room to be like, like, listen back 161 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 5: because I just was so I guess. 162 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: In awe of what was going on. 163 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: I went back to listen. I was like, oh, where's 164 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 5: my recording? Like and so I didn't even Yeah, anyways, 165 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 5: that was my My memory was Zach is He was 166 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 5: the first one I talked to, uh in the locker room, 167 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 5: and I was, Yeah, I did not handle that very 168 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 5: well because I was I was just freaking out. Like 169 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 5: one day you come in to this job and it 170 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: was ready a lot our first year to come in 171 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: here and and have this opportunity to have this platform 172 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 5: and do it. Then the next day we're following Christy Scales, 173 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 5: who I've followed gosh since I first started watching football, 174 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 5: and then you meet Zach Martin. 175 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: Day like that, what do you mean? 176 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 8: No, I didn't. 177 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 4: I didn't like football. 178 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 5: Until HI school. 179 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, let me point that out, thank you. Okay, that's 180 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: much fun. 181 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 5: I have not I was not, but I did not 182 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 5: grow up watching football. 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: I would like to reiterate, I. 184 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 5: No, I know, I hated football growing up so I'm 185 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 5: not saying, are you saying I'm old? No, No, I'm old. No, 186 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 5: I'm not no, I'm I know you're not. 187 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: I know you're not. 188 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 5: We love you. But you know, it was it was 189 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 5: a lot to take in it once. But Zach was 190 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 5: very nice, very patient, very nice. 191 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 2: Uh. 192 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 5: And then after that, like we would just kind of 193 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 5: joke and like, oh, look, I'm getting a little better 194 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 5: at this. And so he's always been really nice. But 195 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 5: I do want to say for all the Cowboys fans 196 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 5: out there that I know this, this hits a little 197 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 5: hard because again, we don't know what he's going to do. 198 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 5: We don't know if retirement is going to be the plan. 199 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 4: You just don't know. 200 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 5: But I do want to say you don't have to 201 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: remember him by this injury, because you can look back 202 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: at the course of the career. Because I see some 203 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 5: discourse online of oh, well he's injured and this and that, 204 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 5: and he's he might want to come back and do 205 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: this and that. 206 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: Let him make his decision. 207 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 5: He's going to make it accordingly to what he feels 208 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 5: like is going to be right for him and his family, 209 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 5: his wife, his kids, everything. What I think people get 210 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: lost in the mix with is these football players don't 211 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 5: just define their careers based on their last year or 212 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 5: what could be their last year, or an injury. It's 213 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 5: defined by everything else that he's done, both on and 214 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: off the field. So I just want to I just 215 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 5: want to say that because I've been I've been a 216 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 5: little quiet on Twitter, because I've been a little I'm. 217 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: A little sad about it. 218 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 5: But yeah, overall, fantastic human and one of a kind 219 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 5: football player that in person that I don't I don't think. 220 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: You'll be able to emulate. 221 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well said. 222 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: I can agree with the fact that he's probably one 223 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: of the easiest guys to talk to and most willing guys, yes, 224 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: to talk to the media every single time. 225 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 5: But sometimes you get the guy that just you know 226 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,479 Speaker 5: will win or lost. I think that's very important. 227 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: To point out too, absolutely, and something that we also 228 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: got a change. It's all that's important. Note before I 229 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: get to this point is that Jerry Jones this morning 230 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 2: on the Fan did say that this shouldn't be viewed 231 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: as an end to his playing career at all. It 232 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: should be viewed as the remainder of the season solely. 233 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: So let's hope and pray for the best for recovery 234 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: for Zach Martin, and let's hope we can get to 235 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: see some more Zach Martin next year. But we had 236 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: talked a little bit about just the influence that he's 237 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: had on the younger guys and has there ever been 238 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: a time on the sidelines, Christy since you get that 239 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: exclusive look for us that you've seen him kind of 240 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 2: mentor Brock and just the young offensive lineman guys on this. 241 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 6: So he's always communicating. And it's funny because Zach is 242 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 6: so reserved and kind of he's not like a real 243 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 6: out there kind of personality accept among the offensive linemen 244 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 6: because they're really, as Jerry said today, a team within 245 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 6: a team. Just before kickoff, he's the hype man. So 246 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 6: and by hype man. 247 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: I mean you know when they're all out. 248 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 6: There, oh, let's you know, you must protect this house 249 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 6: or whenever. 250 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: They're saying yeah. 251 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 6: But among the offensive linemen, Zach's the hype guide. And 252 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 6: so that's always kind of funny to see that side 253 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 6: of him. But he's done that for a long time, 254 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 6: and I've seen it for a long time just because 255 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 6: the way it's been the last decade or so with 256 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 6: starters not playing in preseason. He does that in preseason 257 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 6: with the guys whether they're fourth or fifth string, you know, 258 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 6: and really are hoping to make the practice squad. He 259 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 6: gives the same kind of advice and counsel and tries 260 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 6: to help everybody. But certainly he'll be an extra resource. 261 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 6: He said that he will be at the game on Monday, 262 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 6: just as he was at the previous games, even though 263 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 6: he didn't play against Thanksgiving against the Giants. But I 264 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 6: don't know about the following week because he's going to 265 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 6: have his surgery next week and probably won't travel to Carolina. 266 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 6: But he'll be a resource. He'll be in all the 267 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 6: meetings and he'll be a resource on the sideline at 268 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 6: least for the home games. 269 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, he's been a resource for guys 270 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: like Brock Coffin. If you want to check out the 271 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: interviews on Dallas Cowboys dot com. 272 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, he talks. 273 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: He speaks very highly of Zach Martin, but no so 274 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: wild fact shout out to Bobby Belt about these facts 275 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: for Zach Martin. 276 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 3: Zach Martin has as many first team All Pro. 277 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: Selections in his career that's seven, as he does accepting 278 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: holding penalties my favorite. Zach Martin is one of four 279 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: offensive linemen post merger to make. 280 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 6: The Pro Bowl in each of his first six seasons. 281 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 6: He was the first ever to do it exclusively at guard. 282 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: In the last six years and seventeen days, Zach Martin 283 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: has been called for one false start on the road. 284 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: Zach Martin has won holding penalty since Ceedey Lamb was drafted. 285 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 6: That's incredible. 286 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 9: That's not like the amount of with the amount of 287 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 9: film that I've taken in in this last like three years, 288 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 9: I don't think people understand how hard that is to 289 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 9: to just your technique, to be that sure, to be 290 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 9: that clean consistently, to build. 291 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: That rapport as well. It's just crazy. 292 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 9: And you know, you you ladies were talking about him, 293 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 9: and this will be the last thing I say about 294 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 9: it because I don't want to be super somber about it. 295 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I will say. 296 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 9: Uh, consistency in this game is a skill. Consistency in 297 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 9: anything is a skill. But you talk about the fact 298 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 9: that he's kind of even killed and things like that. 299 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: His work show is leadership. 300 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 9: From a lead from like and again, like we've talked 301 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 9: about this even with some of the other players on 302 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 9: the team. We look at leadership sometimes in a vacuum 303 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 9: of what it's supposed to look like or how it's 304 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 9: supposed to look like leading men. But the way he 305 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 9: carries himself, not only as a husband, as a father. Yeah, 306 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 9: that stuff has value as well. I know his mentorship 307 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 9: doesn't just stop there. But the fact that he I mean, 308 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 9: these numbers like I don't like I said, it's just 309 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 9: stifling to hear those type of numbers. 310 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: When you look. 311 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 9: You can go look at any NFL game every week 312 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 9: and you can see holds here, like through every play. 313 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: The consistency is just through the roof. 314 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 9: I mean, he deserves everything that they're gonna give him, 315 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 9: for sure, for sure, for sure. 316 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna wish the best for Zach Martin 317 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: and hope to see him again next season playing suiting 318 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: up in a Dallas Cowboys uniform. 319 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: But we're gonna take our first break up. 320 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: Next we will possibly have a call with a Bengals reporter. 321 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: If not, it's fine. 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All right, 378 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: if the Cowboys win, who do you think we're going 379 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 2: to look back and say was the different difference maker? 380 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 6: And why why I gotta go? 381 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: First question? 382 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 9: I mean just from first of all, we got some 383 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 9: big news yesterday that Orlando Brown, uh the Bengals start 384 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 9: and tackle, is possibly gonna be out and he is doubtful. 385 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: Have mercy? I listen. 386 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 9: It already, like I should have known that he might 387 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 9: have been dealing with something last week because I watched 388 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 9: him against Pittsburgh. And don't get me wrong, JJ Wat's 389 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 9: a dog, but I was just like yo, her big 390 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 9: two Herbert gave him the business. I I think this 391 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 9: is gonna be a Michael Parson's game. Dallas has will 392 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 9: have opportunities to rush the passer because obviously the Bengals, 393 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 9: but they have to start, they have to stop the run. 394 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 9: I don't, for the love of muffins, the Bengals have 395 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 9: struggled to run the ball for the majority of the year. 396 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 9: Do not let them come in here and be able 397 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 9: to run the ball on You do not allow Chase 398 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 9: Brown to break free, because if you are giving them 399 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 9: a chance to rush the passer, that is your best bet. 400 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 9: Because if you allow Joe Burrow to just sit back 401 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 9: there in the pocket. We talked about this at nauseum, 402 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 9: and he's going to dice you up furthermore with pressure. 403 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 9: He's fine. So you need guys that are gonna get 404 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 9: there and get there fast. I'm looking forward to Mario 405 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 9: on overshown. I'm looking for Michael Parsons. Your pass rushers 406 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 9: gotta get after it and they gotta finish this. 407 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 4: He's also doing, like Joe's. 408 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 9: A lot more elusive than what he looks as far 409 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 9: as maneuver in the pocket. So to me, I think 410 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 9: Michael Parsons is going to be a huge difference maker 411 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 9: in this game. He's hunting that double digit sack year 412 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 9: told Clarence Hill, I'm gonna get it. And uh kind 413 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 9: of believe him when he says certain things. 414 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 4: So that's my. 415 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 6: Nay, he may have it by the by Monday night 416 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 6: at ten. 417 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 9: It's him and she's not exaggerating. And Joe Burrow also 418 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 9: too is not he does he has five interceptions on 419 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 9: the year. He's not going to throw a lot of 420 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 9: picks like that. Make him put the ball on the ground. 421 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 9: The guy was gonna have to steal possessions to keep 422 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 9: up with this score. 423 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 6: So Michael Parsons quick question, what's up fast? 424 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: Because with Orlando Brown out? 425 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 6: Doubtful, Sorry, doubtful, doubtful. 426 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: They have a guy named Cody Ford who can play 427 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: both left tackle and left guard. He's a starting left guard. 428 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: Do you have any confidence not confidence? Is there a 429 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: concern with Cody Ford moving out to left tackle bring 430 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 2: Brown would bring? 431 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: I think the concern would be on the Bengals end. 432 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, they a'll be concerned. 433 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 9: H Cody Ford is he's a I think that he's 434 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 9: a state ed from what I saw. He's a steady 435 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 9: left guard. But I just this is not he's moving 436 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 9: getting kicked out to. 437 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: The left tackle. It's more to have to worry about. 438 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 9: I would be worried I'm sure they're gonna be needing. 439 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 9: Their tide ends to help a lot. 440 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 5: Okay, what you got, Jess, I'm gonna go, Mike McCarthy. 441 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go your. 442 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 5: Play caller, because in order for the defense to do 443 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 5: their job, yes, your offense has to play complimentary football, 444 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 5: and you have to find a way to score points, 445 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 5: actual touchdowns in this game and not have any more 446 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 5: of those red zone wes. Because here's the thing. Since 447 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 5: he's offense gonna score points, gonna get down, they're gonna. 448 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 4: Be productive in the head zone. 449 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, we know that, yes, But what you can 450 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: control on the offensive side of the ball is play 451 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 5: calling that's gonna favor you. One getting into the red zone, 452 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 5: but two being successful in the red zone, and two 453 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 5: key things of that one establishing the run. I really 454 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 5: liked what we saw last week when they just kept 455 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 5: pounty the run. It was fourth quarter, still saw the 456 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 5: run not being abandoned. Continue to just run the ball, 457 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 5: continue to do what works have Rico, just keep going 458 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 5: over and over and overrun the ball. Also, I think 459 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 5: if you're able to get Jake Ferguson back, that helps 460 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 5: you in the red zone. 461 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 4: But if not. 462 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 5: I think you kind of start incorporating Brevin span Ford, 463 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 5: Luke schoon Maker, your tight ends a little bit more, 464 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 5: those big body guys to make sure you are capitalizing 465 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 5: touchdowns in the red zone. So for me, play callers, 466 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 5: what's going to make the difference? 467 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 6: And Christy real fast, Jake Ferguson, Yeah, because I think yeah, yeah, exactly, Kerry. 468 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: We have a caller on the line. We welcome in 469 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated Bingles reporter Jay Morrison. 470 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: Jay, how you doing. 471 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 12: I'm doing great? How are you guys? 472 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: Hi Will? 473 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, Hello, Jay? 474 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 5: And I used to Yeah, I know, Jay and I 475 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 5: used to work together, so he was used to my yapping. 476 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah. 477 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 6: And Jay anyway, thank you so much. 478 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's a lot of shake on. All right, all right, 479 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: we're going to start real fast and we won't keep 480 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: you long, Jay, but we've got to ask you some questions. 481 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: Of course, the matchup on Monday Night between the Bengals 482 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: and the Cowboys, for me, I want to know what's 483 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: the vibes the mental like for the Cincinnati Bengals right now, 484 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: because you look at what the record is for and 485 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: eight a lot of pressure going in trying to make 486 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 487 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: Percentage is very low. 488 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: Just what's their mentality like heading into Monday. 489 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think the pressure is off. It's it's been 490 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 12: a very light mood the last couple of days where 491 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 12: I think the loss to the Steelers, they know, they 492 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 12: understand the math three percent, but reality is it's that 493 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 12: part of it's over, and so I think some of 494 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 12: the pressure is off and they're just kind of, you know, 495 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 12: enjoying each other's company, enjoying going out and playing these 496 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 12: fine five games, trying to put their best stuff on 497 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 12: tape and having it's been so disappointing, and it's been 498 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 12: such a stressful season because the offense is playing out 499 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 12: of its mind. The defense is letting everybody down. It 500 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 12: hasn't felt like there's been you know, drama or animosity 501 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 12: in the locker room. They all understand it is what 502 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 12: it is. You don't have offense versus defense. The offense 503 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 12: has been really supportive and kind of hoping and having 504 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 12: said that the defense would get it turned around. They haven't. 505 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 12: And I just think reality is set in this week 506 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 12: that they are playing out the string at dispoint. 507 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: Jess what you do? Yeah, Hey Jay, it's me again. 508 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 5: Hi, I just wanted to ask you, because this is 509 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 5: one of Joe Burrows, I guess, most unsuccessful seasons as quarterback. 510 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: What has his mentality been like through this? Has he 511 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 5: really shown leadership through this? 512 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: Is he frustrated? 513 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: I mean I would assume not so much anymore with 514 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 5: what you're saying, but what has he he kind of 515 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 5: been outspoken about as far as how he's handled how 516 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 5: the course of the season has gone so far. 517 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's been a different Joe Burrow. He's been more vocal. 518 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 12: He talked early in this season about understanding the need 519 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 12: for that. You know, so much was made of the 520 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 12: guys they let walk in free agency, what they what 521 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 12: they lost in play, but they've they've lost a lot 522 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 12: of leaders too, and so Joe has had He's a 523 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 12: leader by nature as a quarterback, but he's had to 524 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 12: kind of step into that more vocal role and he's 525 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 12: been willing to accept that. And then we've just seen, 526 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 12: you know, the win against the Raiders, the only win 527 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 12: they had in the month of November. He was he 528 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 12: was pissed, I mean he was he was really upset 529 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 12: with the number one how they started the game, well, 530 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 12: they didn't finish it. That well, and it was just 531 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 12: kind of a different side of him. We've never really 532 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 12: seen that demeanor from him in a press conference. And 533 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 12: then you've seen the frustration and just him looking lost 534 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 12: and moros on the sidelines where he's doing everything possible 535 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 12: or will this team to wins and it's just not happening. 536 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 12: And it's not all on the defense's fault. A lot 537 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 12: of it is They've created such a thin margin of 538 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 12: air for Joe, but it's not been insurmountable, and this 539 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 12: offense has not been able to finish games. They've had 540 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 12: chances where they could go down and win some of 541 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 12: these shootouts and they've not done it at the end. 542 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 12: So he's put some of that on his shoulders as well. 543 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 12: Though it is it's been it's been a frustrating season 544 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 12: and it's been kind of a new look Joe Burrow. 545 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 12: And I think that's gonna I think that's going to 546 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 12: pay off down the future because they need that, They 547 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 12: need somebody to kind of step up and be that 548 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 12: vocal leader. You've had a lot of it lead by 549 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 12: example guys that you haven't had a lot of the 550 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 12: guys that when they talk, everybody listens and they people 551 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 12: certainly listen when Joe talks. 552 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 6: Can you shed a light on the Bengals defense, I 553 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 6: mean giving up over twenty points per game and their 554 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 6: defensive coordinary. I mean it's not like the Cowboys where 555 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 6: you had Mike Zimmer coming in and bringing a different 556 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 6: style and scheme and there's an adjustment period. I mean, 557 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 6: Lou's been there many years, so you still have Trey Hendrickson, 558 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 6: and so what has gone wrong with the defense. 559 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 12: You only have one Trey Hendrickson. That's what's going wrong, right, Yeah, 560 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 12: nobody else is Yeah, nobody else has been able to 561 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 12: get any kind of pressure. The back end. They were 562 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 12: turning things over to some young guys. You know, they 563 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 12: knew this day was coming. They signed Joe Burda, that 564 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 12: huge contract, That Jamar Chase contract is coming. They've they've 565 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 12: spent heavily in free agency and in the drafts. Nine 566 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 12: of their last ten rounds one through three picks have 567 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 12: been defensive guys, and they just haven't developed. In some cases, 568 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 12: some of them have regressed. And even the ones that 569 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 12: were starting to show flashers. You know, Dax Hill, they 570 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 12: drafted him as a safety to be Jesse Bates replacement. 571 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 12: And then he just had an awful year last year's safety, 572 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 12: so they switched him to cornerback and he was playing 573 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 12: pretty well through the first month of the season, looked 574 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 12: like he was taken to the position, changed pretty well, 575 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 12: and he tears at ACL and he's out for the year. 576 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 12: So then DJ Turner takes over and he was starting 577 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 12: to come along, and then he breaks his classical a 578 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 12: couple of weeks ago on Sunday Night football against the Chargers. 579 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 12: So now you've got Josh Newton, a rookie fifth round 580 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 12: pick from TCU, who are some Cowboys fans might be 581 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 12: familiar with. He made his first career start last week, 582 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 12: didn't go well, and Cam Taylor Britt was their second 583 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 12: round pick a couple of weeks ago, and he felt 584 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 12: like a guy that was really coming on. He was 585 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 12: playing well, big personality, seemed like he was going to 586 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 12: take that next step to kind of be known on 587 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 12: the national level. And he is completely regressed this year. 588 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 12: He is in his head. He did have a pick 589 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 12: six last week, maybe that gets him out of it, 590 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 12: but he's given up a lot of touchdowns, a lot 591 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 12: of passes overall. So you've they've just been and then 592 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 12: let's not forget this. They signed Geno Stone in free 593 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 12: agency the safety to replace Dax Zield because Dacks didn't 594 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 12: work out last year. Gino led the AFC in interceptions 595 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 12: last year with seven. He only has one this year. 596 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 12: And he's been an absolute train wreck in terms of 597 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 12: tackling that he leaves the team in miss tackles. He's 598 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 12: one of the league leaders in miss tackles. And so 599 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 12: just all those things, not getting pressure on the quarterback, 600 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 12: not being able to cover on the back end, not 601 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 12: being on the same page as far as assignments, and 602 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 12: it just it's all come together to blow up this defense. 603 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 12: Lou Anrimo did not forget how to coach, it's just 604 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 12: the front office has not given him much to work 605 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 12: with this year. 606 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 6: Well, we're just kind of smiling and smirking a bit, 607 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 6: jay because now when you say invested heavily in a 608 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 6: wide receiver and a quarterback and then injuries, hitting situations 609 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 6: on defense, changed the names and this is this is yeah, 610 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 6: this is Dallas Cowboys season. Absolutely yeah, and it's been 611 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 6: no it has been uh So we're just kind of 612 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 6: amused by that. And and it goes the lack of 613 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 6: the interceptions that you mentioned for Geno saying same thing 614 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 6: here with the Cowboys because of the lack of pass rush. 615 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 6: So interesting until. 616 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 12: Now the Bengals are still late. 617 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 9: Maybe better start playing them games, uh for yeah, young 618 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 9: secondary no pass for a stone mix. 619 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 4: Hi Jay, we're cousins. My last name is Morson too. 620 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 5: I don't know your lady. 621 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 9: Uh So, I definitely wanted to. I got two things 622 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 9: I wanted to talk about. Do you just we got 623 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 9: the news yesterday that Orlando Brown is going to be 624 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 9: He's doubtful as of right now. It looks like it 625 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 9: looks like Cody Ford possibly will be stepping up in 626 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 9: his place. Can you give us, you know, some insight 627 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 9: on Cody Ford. I've looked at a little tape from him, 628 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 9: but it's no telling what a guy is at guard 629 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 9: as opposed to tackle, like unless you just go deep. 630 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 4: In the well. 631 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 12: Yeah. So, Orlando missed three games with this injury earlier. 632 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 12: His first game back was this past week against Pittsburgh, 633 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 12: and he looked like he was on one leg at 634 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 12: the end of the game. You know, he tried to 635 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 12: gut through it. So Cody had Those were his first 636 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 12: three starts that tackle in the league and he held 637 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 12: up pretty well. I mean, when Orlando came back this week, 638 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 12: they moved Cody into the starting guard spot in place 639 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 12: of the guy that they drafted in the fourth round 640 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 12: a couple three years ago, and he started every game since. Now, 641 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 12: part of that is how well The Bengals will say 642 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 12: that it's all related to how well Cody played at tackle, 643 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 12: but being honest, the guy that they draft, Cordovols and 644 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 12: fourth round pick up North Dakota State three years ago 645 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 12: started to show some progress. But he's really fallen back 646 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 12: this year and he's been a lot ability. The whole 647 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 12: interior of that offensive line has been a problem. Alex 648 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 12: Kappa at right guard is aging. Ted Carris is on 649 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 12: the wrong side of thirty. Now, they did give him 650 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 12: a one year extension. He means a lot in the 651 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 12: locker room, but they just they have not been very 652 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 12: good on the interior. So I think that hurts them, 653 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 12: not just losing Orlando, but losing a better guard that 654 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 12: now has to kick out to tackle. And you don't 655 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 12: know if it's in Cordell's head. He got bench last week. 656 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 12: He can't be feeling good about that, and now he 657 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 12: has to step back in and be a starter again 658 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 12: this week. So it's not been ideal, it has still 659 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 12: been a You know, Orlando has played the best football 660 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 12: of his life when healthy. They drafted a Marius Men's 661 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 12: out of Georgia in the first round. He's been a 662 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 12: huge surprise, not a surprise. He's been a huge benefit 663 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 12: to that line at right tackle. But the interior has 664 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 12: been the problem and it doesn't look like that's going 665 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 12: to go away now because I don't know how long 666 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 12: Orlando's going to be out. The fact that he tried 667 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 12: to come back and couldn't get through one game leads 668 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 12: you to believe, especially with the season kind of being 669 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 12: overplayoff wise, if they may just shut him down. 670 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think that Zimmer might look at 671 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 9: the left tackle spot and go at it. That matchup 672 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 9: with Micah and Cody Ford is something that I'm really 673 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 9: going to be looking at this game and how Mike 674 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 9: Zimmer decides to deploy those guys specifically, like you were 675 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 9: saying on. 676 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 4: The interior, where you guys are a little bit weaker. 677 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 9: Thank you, and Eric All is my last thing I 678 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 9: wanted to talk about him. How did you guys feel 679 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 9: about some of the things that you were seeing from 680 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 9: him early in the season, and was. 681 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: It a blow when he got injured this year? 682 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 12: It was a huge blow. He was a real difference maker. 683 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 12: He was the reason they so since Zach Taylor got 684 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 12: here in twenty nineteen, the Bengals have been one of 685 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 12: the top two or three teams and eleven personnel they 686 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 12: live in it. Three wide receivers, one running back, one 687 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 12: tight end. They totally changed their scheme this year. They 688 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 12: were playing a lot at twelve because of what eric 689 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 12: All brought. He's they've got of all the tight ends 690 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 12: on this roster. They've got guys that catch passes and 691 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 12: they've got guys that block. They don't have anybody that 692 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 12: can really do both confidently, and eric All did and 693 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 12: they were doing a lot with him, putting in motion 694 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 12: and cracking down on the edge on the other side 695 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 12: throw into him. He was a huge difference maker and 696 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 12: he was having a great start to his season and 697 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 12: then just awful to tear his ACL. I mean, he 698 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 12: was coming back from an ACL he towards ACL last 699 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 12: year at Iowa ended his season. So it's just it's 700 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 12: really unfortunate to see that happen. And it was a 701 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 12: huge blow. You look at his stats and say, oh, 702 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 12: a tight end with whatever the numbers he had, it 703 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 12: wasn't He was in the catches of twenty for two 704 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 12: hundred some yards. But what he meant to this offense 705 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 12: was goes so far beyond the box score. 706 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 5: Yeah. Ja, My last question for you is over here 707 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 5: on our side, we just talked about some key things 708 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 5: that need to happen or key players that need to 709 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 5: step up. Who are some guys and what are some 710 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 5: key things Cowboys fantas need to keep an eye on 711 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 5: if they want to avoid another loss over here on 712 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 5: our side of the ball. 713 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 12: Well, you kind of Cody Ford. I mean, he's gonna 714 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 12: have his hands full, and I don't know if Mike. 715 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 12: It goes to the other side. Marius's Mems has played well, 716 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 12: but he's a rookie and he's he's gotten beat a 717 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 12: few times. You know, these veteran guys come in and 718 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 12: they know how to set him up. So that's gonna 719 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 12: be the coming off the edge is going to be 720 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 12: a big thing. Another thing. Logan Wilson, the middle linebacker, 721 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 12: one of the few guys that played pretty well on defense. 722 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 12: He's out for the year. A team Davis Gator missed 723 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 12: four tackles last week. Did not look good at all. 724 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 12: So if the Cowboys are going to line up and 725 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 12: just run Rico, that's gonna be a big deal. If 726 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 12: they can get this run defense sorted out and then 727 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 12: just on the really the whole defense the DB's last week, 728 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 12: Russell Wilson of the Steelers had ten passes for one 729 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 12: hundred in six yards and none of those passes went 730 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 12: more than five or six yards in the air. They 731 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 12: were all checkdowns and screens, and this defense was whiffing 732 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 12: on tackles and be taking bad angles. So get just 733 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 12: if he just gets the ball out, If Cooper Rush 734 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 12: can just get the ball out, get the ball in 735 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 12: his receiver's hands, let Ceedee lamb Rico, whoever it is 736 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 12: he's throwing to make some plays and exploit this Bengals defense. 737 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 12: I don't see how the Bengals are going to hold 738 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 12: a team they've They've given up thirty four points at 739 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 12: least in three straight games. I think it's going to 740 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 12: be four in a row. I think there's going to 741 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 12: be a shootout, probably going to be a game where 742 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 12: both teams in the thirties and the team that has 743 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 12: the ball last is going to win? 744 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 8: Oh? 745 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 2: Is that saying the Cowboys are going to score thirty points? 746 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 5: Right? 747 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 6: Think? 748 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: Wow, that's confidence. 749 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 9: Ain't nobody gonna play no defense? 750 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 12: They haven't played defense all year? Why start now? 751 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 11: My cousin. 752 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 2: You know, Jay, thank you so so much. We appreciate 753 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: your time. And Jess, thank you for setting this up 754 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: as well. 755 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, appreciate you. 756 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 5: Jay, you, thank you, thank you, thank you. 757 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: All Right, we're gonna take our second break and we'll 758 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: break down a little bit of it. 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Just go 814 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 2: a little, a little rundown about this. Tyler Guidon of 815 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 2: course did not participate. 816 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 11: We knew this. 817 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 2: Zach Martin, of course is out for the rest of 818 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 2: the season. Jandia Thomas out for two to three weeks. 819 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 2: This is now gonna be week two for jan Ye. 820 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: Nick Vigil did not participate. Trayvon Diggs limited. He was 821 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 2: also limited yesterday's practice again. Today's practice is technically a 822 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 2: Thursday practice. 823 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 3: Let me disclaim that right now. 824 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb was upgraded to limited today. He did not 825 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: participate in yesterday's practice. Demarvin overshown limited again today, Deron 826 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 2: Bland full participant, Brandon Cook's upgraded from limited yesterday's practice 827 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: to full, Jake Ferguson a full participant, Malie Cooker upgraded 828 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 2: to full, Eric Kendricks upgraded to full, and Jordan Lewis 829 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 2: upgraded to full after being limited yesterday. And there's their practice, 830 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 2: and then we have and then this is the Bengals 831 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 2: practice report, all right. Orlando Brown did not participate. Sheldon 832 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:08,240 Speaker 2: Rankins or defensive tackle did not participate. Logan Wilson uh injured, reserve, 833 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 2: T Higgins limited, Charlie Jones limited, Joe Burrow full, Jamar 834 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 2: Chase upgraded from limited to full, Cody Ford a full participant, 835 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: Amarus Mams upgraded to full. 836 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 3: And is all, yeah, my thoughts or I'm practice, ladies. 837 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 4: Rankings ain't playing either. 838 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 3: He's our best d tackle. Well there's her thoughts. 839 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 4: He's their best. 840 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 9: He's their best D tackle and he a little long 841 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 9: in the two. I have mercy, all right, it's not 842 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 9: my business, but it is our business, so it's. 843 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 4: Kind of like, not our business. 844 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 6: That's not well, what happened with ranking Ranking Smiths last 845 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 6: week's game? Rankinson miss last week the virus. 846 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 9: So that's what I was waiting to see if he 847 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 9: was gonna not be mixicky. When I saw he did 848 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 9: practice yesterday, I was like, Okay, if he has a virus, 849 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,800 Speaker 9: they probably just don't. 850 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 4: Want him to be around other people. Yeah no, but 851 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 4: it's Thursday. 852 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why. 853 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 6: The one thing about the game being on Monday, the 854 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 6: players who are limited for Cowboys, you know, there is 855 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 6: that extra day to prepare. And also the Cowboys because 856 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 6: they had played Thanksgiving, you know, it was basically eleven 857 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 6: days between the games, so you know, rest and recovery there, 858 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 6: which the Bengals did not have because they didn't have 859 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 6: a long week. So the short term, the quick turnaround 860 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 6: the three games in eleven days that hurt the Cowboys 861 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 6: heading into Thanksgiving. Now you have the benefit of that 862 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 6: coming out, which the Bengals do not have. 863 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's unfortunate. 864 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 2: They didn't give no sympathy to the Cowboys all season long. 865 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 2: Ain't no sympathy going around for nobody else all believe that. 866 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 4: Who do you think will make you smile Monday night? 867 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, why are you looking at me like this? 868 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 3: Because you know what I'm gonna say. Go ahead and 869 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 3: say it. 870 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson. 871 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 2: No, yeah, oh yeah, I thought she's gonna say Rico. 872 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 5: I mean, duh, But I'm going Jake Ferguson his his 873 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 5: return game. Like I had mentioned earlier, I really think 874 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 5: having him uh and more tight end involvement just in 875 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 5: general in this game is going to be very key. 876 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 5: But also, you know, just a guy like Jake being 877 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 5: back around, leader of his room. It was good to 878 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 5: see him from some of the tweets I saw back 879 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 5: at practice working with Lunda. So I'm gonna go Jake. 880 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 5: I think Jake's gonna be a good uh good guy 881 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 5: for Cooper Rush to start using uh to his advantage. 882 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 6: But you got, well, yeah, you go, you go, you go, Nicole, 883 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 6: who you got? 884 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: I was so excited, Sorry that. 885 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. 886 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 2: I don't know I'm gonna Smith because you had mentioned 887 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 2: or we've talked about this on the show, how important 888 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,760 Speaker 2: it is for guys on the outside Micah and Chauncey 889 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: on the outside to get pressure, but also Odigizua. 890 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 3: You know who's going. 891 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 2: To be a key factor in those guys being able. 892 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 3: To do so? 893 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 4: It is mazy Mozzi. 894 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm gonna go, Masie. I feel like he's 895 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: gonna make me smile like this, like that, like a 896 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 2: real big swine. 897 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 4: Oh, I love that. I agree? 898 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 6: You go. 899 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 4: Did I steal yours? 900 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 6: No? 901 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am. 902 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 6: No go, And don't don't skip over Captain obvious because 903 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 6: you think I'm gonna pick him because I have somebody different. 904 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, no, Minus, I don't think 905 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 4: mine is obviously. The Bengals they're rustled too high. 906 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 9: Every now and then, well maybe they like to go 907 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 9: in this single high. Cooper, if you see that, you 908 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 9: better send Turfing on a scene around and let him 909 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 9: go to that house. I think Turf is gonna make 910 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 9: me smile. These these humans don't like to tackle like that, make. 911 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 4: Him pay, make them have to chase. 912 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 9: I think it depending on they might have some respect 913 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 9: for like obviously for ceed Lamb. They might come out 914 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 9: there and be like, Oh, we're just gonna try to 915 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 9: keep everything in front of you. Let a safety drive 916 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 9: down Turpin. I think Ter's gonna maybe smile this week. 917 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 9: I think he's gonna get a good field position as well. 918 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 3: I thought you were to him. 919 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 6: I thought you were gonna go with Michael Parsons because 920 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 6: of the aforementioned reasons with their issues with pass protection 921 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 6: and injuries at left tackle. So I think he's gonna 922 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 6: make all of us smile. But I was trying to 923 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,400 Speaker 6: go not captain obvious, thinking you would go with Micah. 924 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 6: So I'm going with Carl Lawson, a former Bengal started 925 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 6: his career. So I think that there will be four 926 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 6: or five sacks at least in this game. And I 927 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 6: think that there'll be a couple each for Micah and 928 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 6: for Carlson. 929 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 9: Quiet as kept, Yes, quiet as kept. Carl Lawson has well. 930 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 9: I think he has five sacks on a year. 931 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, the pressures are there. It's like it took him 932 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 4: a minute. 933 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 9: It took him a little second to get a little churn, 934 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 9: you know, to get chugging. But I do think this 935 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 9: might be a gentleman that like you find yourself, like 936 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 9: he's here training him next year, or he's on a 937 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 9: practice squad, whatever the case may be. I think that 938 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,359 Speaker 9: stepping in the way that he has with the lack 939 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 9: of I see why they decided to go with him 940 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 9: when they worked at all those d ns. I see 941 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 9: why they were like, we see something in this guy. 942 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 9: Let's let him get his legs under him. He has 943 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 9: been playing well. I would love to see him, and we've. 944 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 5: Been getting confidence just for you see the confidence growth 945 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 5: within him. And even just after what was it last week? 946 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 5: All my weeks are jumbled at this point. Just a 947 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 5: little celebration with the guys around him, I'm like, nah, 948 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 5: he's one of them. 949 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 4: He's one of their guys. 950 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 3: And the interesting do play for him. 951 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, and the interest he takes interest in playing the 952 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 9: run as well, like he he also too has helped 953 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 9: him on the edge. So I'm I'm pleased with the signing. 954 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 9: Like I was sitting back think about it the other day, 955 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 9: I was like, dang, what would you do without him? 956 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 4: Even so. 957 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: Michael Carsons six and a half and Marvin Overshown five, 958 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 2: Carl Loston. 959 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if if he's one of 960 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 6: the game captains because of because coach McCarthy, instead of 961 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 6: having captains for the whole season, he has different game 962 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 6: captains each week and so oftentimes so for example, Jordan 963 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 6: Lewis is from Detroit, so you played Detroit, then that's 964 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 6: cool to make Jordan Lewis a game captain. So I 965 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised. I think Lawson has been captain what's 966 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 6: already this year, But I wouldn't be surprised if he 967 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 6: gets to be called. 968 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 5: So this is his dressing for revenge game. 969 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 6: There you go, Taylor, there you go. 970 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 3: There. 971 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 4: I can't believe it ends this weekend. 972 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 5: You know it doesn't end this weekend. 973 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 4: The wind streak, the podcast or the wind back here 974 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 4: next week too. 975 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I love that because they've been to. 976 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 4: Get a win. Monday night, I was setting you up 977 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 4: the draft. People are throwing up in the corner. It'll 978 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 4: be a right, all right. 979 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 3: This has been great. 980 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 2: Signing off Brice Morrison, Jessin Norris, Chrissy Scales. I'm Nicole Hudgerson. 981 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 3: We'll be back here next week. 982 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 983 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.