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Speaker 2: Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.

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Speaker 1: The rex was not chasing the jeep. Murray, Murray, you there.

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Speaker 1: You love sandwiches? Huh, let's go to eighty. It was

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Speaker 2: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went

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Speaker 1: He caught them the game last night, although they won

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Speaker 2: You're listening to to Goatsen Company, Taylor put this on

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Speaker 2: the pole?

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Speaker 1: Are the best two words in sports? Game seven?

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Speaker 2: Even if Game seven includes Seattle and Toronto? Put that

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Speaker 2: as well? What are the better two words in sports today?

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Speaker 2: Game seven or Bucks Lions?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's clearly Bucks Lions. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was looking at that game yesterday only in a

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Speaker 1: I don't think I want to see that. I don't

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the two best words in sports

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Speaker 3: Vloody Guerrero Junior. And I said this, this is this

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Speaker 3: And that's that was my assessment of the entire Alcs.

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Speaker 3: But now we got a game seven? How about that?

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Speaker 1: Right? Best two words in sports. I think I'm not

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Speaker 4: It feels like vad Guerrero has been that size for

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Speaker 3: Again, further proof that I have no idea what I'm

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Speaker 2: a wild weekend a football college. The Canes game feels

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Speaker 1: Was on a Friday night. They lost to Louisville.

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Speaker 2: I got a text from T Bob that simply read

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Speaker 3: I'd almost forgot about that one I started my weekend.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hate on people just because they're fans, right,

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Speaker 2: And so when you go to the U, that's what's

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Speaker 4: So Monday through Friday you have a James Franklin coach,

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Speaker 2: Right, So it's only against top five teams that we

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Speaker 1: In case of an emergency.

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Speaker 2: He's essentially saying break glass in case of an emergency,

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Speaker 3: It kind of sounds like a broom to sweep away.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really feel right. It was weird.

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Speaker 2: What if it's a team just outside the top five,

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Speaker 1: They weren't expected to be there.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, ste a real head breaker right here.

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Speaker 3: The Denver Broncos did that. They scored all of their

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Speaker 3: be like tear your head off, frustrating because Jackson DARTSTU

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Speaker 1: And then his kicker missed his second extra point of

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Speaker 1: the game. They have kicking problems there.

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Speaker 3: So if his kicker just makes one of those, yeah,

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Speaker 1: If he makes both of them, you've got your game. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Instead, you give up thirty three points in the fourth,

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Speaker 3: your quarterback does everything he needs to do, and you

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Speaker 3: lose that freaking game. That to me, like, if that

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Speaker 3: making the playoffs this year, this would be like New

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Speaker 2: Giants up nineteen to nothing going into the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: the lead, as you pointed out, they miss an extra point,

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Speaker 2: Denver comes down, they win that game. Denver scores thirty

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Speaker 2: three points in the fourth quarter. That was the game

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Speaker 2: of the year in the NFL? Was it not like that?

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Speaker 2: Are you saying it wasn't?

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Speaker 1: Taylor?

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Speaker 2: I know the Giants aren't very good, but when do

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Speaker 1: Game of the year. Wasn't that a Ravens Bills game?

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Speaker 3: Kind of magical?

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Speaker 1: That was a good game. Yeah, what was the game?

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Speaker 2: We thought the Ravens were good? I mean, now they stink.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even certain the Bills are good. This is

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Speaker 4: What was the game last week that we called the

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Speaker 1: The year every week?

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Speaker 4: I love That's more what he was laughing at.

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Speaker 1: Wait, which one was it?

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Speaker 3: I think it was a Thursday night from this week,

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Speaker 1: Was that the game of the year? It was? It

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Speaker 4: Now, now you're seeing the problem. You've been calling every

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was special.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 1: No, No, it wasn't. If you actually watched the game.

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Speaker 3: That was penalties that really kept things alive that they

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Speaker 3: shouldn't have been. It's not like like Jackson Dart was okay,

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Speaker 1: Pocket pretty well, broke free from it. Occasionally. The thing

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Speaker 3: Asked this question every week about Trevor Lawrence. I think

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Speaker 3: we can give up that bit. Trevor Lawrence is not good,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ask it again. I don't care. Same

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. I'll ask it. Can you also ask if

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Speaker 1: Bone Nix is any good? Because well, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what it is about him.

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Speaker 3: He feels like the per ficked like caricature quarterback like

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Speaker 3: you you'd like if he was a doll in like

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Speaker 3: a Gi Joe box and it said NFL quarterback. It's

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Speaker 3: bo Nicks, right, But I don't really know what he

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Speaker 3: does especially well, like I guess he can make all

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Speaker 3: the throws, but he's not really showing off this, you know,

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Speaker 3: cannon of an arm. I you know, he obviously could

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Speaker 3: navigate an offense and run an offense. He's run several

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Speaker 3: he was in college forever and now he's doing this

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Speaker 3: in the NFL for Sean Payton. So he can do that,

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Speaker 3: but I don't trust the guy to carry me through

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Speaker 3: an NFL game.

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Speaker 2: He's the only quarterback in NFL history to throw for

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Speaker 2: two touchdown passes and run for two touchdowns at a quarter.

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Speaker 3: So he's played Thompson of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But somehow I still don't think he's any good.

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Speaker 3: Like twenty seven to fifty for two seventy nine with

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Speaker 3: two touchdowns and no interceptions, and you're like, Okay, that's

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Speaker 3: a pretty good game, like in nineteen ninety five, but

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Speaker 3: today it's like, I have no idea if that was

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Speaker 3: a good performance from him.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos are five and two, there are top the

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Speaker 2: AFC West. But you're right, I have no idea if

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Speaker 2: bo Nix is going to be great. I know he's decent.

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Speaker 2: I know he's better than we expected. I have no

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Speaker 2: idea if bo Nicks is going to be a great

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Speaker 2: very good by NFL experts, by people who do this

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's a very fair question. I know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's being elevated by the people around him.

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Speaker 3: It's not like he's got this ridiculous receiving corps or

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Speaker 3: these you know, amazing running.

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Speaker 1: Back So he is. He is a good leader.

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Speaker 3: He's probably the opposite of Tua in this respect and

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Speaker 3: is it doesn't have all the tools that has a

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Speaker 4: Broncos didn't win, though the Giants lost.

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Speaker 2: Did they put it on the ball? Did the Broncos

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I'm normally I mean man talk

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Speaker 3: about an around the horn staple, credit or blame game.

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Speaker 3: I think this is definitely a blame game. Like I think, Yes,

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Speaker 3: scoring thirty three points in the fourth quarter is crazy,

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Speaker 3: but one of them comes off of just a bad

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Speaker 3: and exception from Jackson Dart. Another one off of just

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Speaker 3: a bad three and out, not really using the clock

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Speaker 3: at all and giving the team that you're playing against

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Speaker 3: every opportunity to come back and win.

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Speaker 1: I think more blame goes to the Giants.

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Speaker 4: Stu, I have a stat for you. NFL teams won

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Speaker 4: one thousand, six hundred and two straight games when leading

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Speaker 4: by eighteen plus points in the fourth quarter with six

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Speaker 1: Wow, something had to give. I mean, they were too right.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I got my ut, I got him wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's one day, I'm tired after football.

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Speaker 1: But they were due, is what I think. Either one.

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Speaker 1: You could set me up perfectly for it too. It's

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Speaker 1: a fucking asshole, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But that's what I think bo Nicks has to be

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Speaker 3: like the extension of the coach type of guy that

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Speaker 3: John Stockton, if you will, I think he is that

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Speaker 3: for quarterbacks. And that's why you know, when you're playing

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Speaker 3: who have a tendency to find ways to lose fine mistakes,

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Speaker 3: that's when Bonnicks is gonna come up and capture the

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Speaker 3: don't make those crazy mistakes.

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Speaker 2: Right, He's got all the leadership stuff down, like he's

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Speaker 2: got all that. He's got it doubt his dad played

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Speaker 2: who played in the SEC. But let's not discount what

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Speaker 2: Bonis has done, is he because no one expected a

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Speaker 2: lot out of bon Nicks rookie year thirty eight hundred yards,

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Speaker 2: twenty nine touchdowns, twelve interceptions ran for four more so

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Speaker 2: thirty three and twelve his rookie year and so far

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Speaker 2: this year fourteen total touchdowns, eleven passing, three rushing and

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Speaker 1: And his team's good, Like I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think we and the Broncos were not good when

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Speaker 2: Bonicks got.

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Speaker 1: There, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again if you look at the players around him,

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty good at this, I can handle this. I

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Speaker 3: guess the more time we give him to see if

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Speaker 3: he can you know, throw on that cape and really

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Speaker 3: take a team through a postseason fourth quarter probably yet

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Speaker 3: to be seen. I haven't seen it yet, But if

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Speaker 3: I'll take bow next.

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Speaker 2: Every day, Taylor put this on the pole. Is there

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Speaker 2: anyone you would rather have on the call of that

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Speaker 2: he met the urgency of what it was that was

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Speaker 2: going on in Denver, just the urgency of that comeback

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Speaker 2: and the scrambling nature of the Broncos just trying to

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Speaker 2: fight back, pull all their way back into that game

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Speaker 3: Kevin Harland perfect well, yeah, and it was it was

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Speaker 3: the type like it just felt like it should have

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Speaker 3: been a Giants win, Like you had the Jackson Dark performance.

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Speaker 3: The narrative coming into it was more about them like

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Speaker 3: the Broncos. But the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Giants coming in here, dominating this game.

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Speaker 3: And then he still needs that ending, gets the ending,

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Speaker 4: Once he missed the extra point, though, that game was

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Speaker 4: it was over almost.

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Speaker 1: He missed the actually knew it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how you knew it because I'd never heard.

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Speaker 1: Of that kicker before, and you knew that.

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Speaker 3: When he missed his second extra point, it was gonna

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Speaker 3: it's gonna cost him, Like he's not going to be

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Speaker 3: probably thinking, what am I going.

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Speaker 1: To be doing next Sunday playing the Eagles? Probably not?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think they have another kicker. I mean

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Speaker 2: I think you get one off the street. Well, they

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Speaker 2: will have another kicker. I should I should write that

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Speaker 2: If you're a Giant fan. I'm wondering because that was

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Speaker 2: a devastating loss. It was, it was you could have

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Speaker 2: gotten yourselves the three and four. I don't think Giant

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Speaker 2: team headed into the season. Can you kind of look

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Speaker 2: past that loss because you're so excited that you appear

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Speaker 2: to have this young franchise quarterback who has done nothing

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Speaker 1: Life, with hope. And so I'm wondering how Giant fans

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Speaker 3: Yes years been away because they have Jackson, You've been

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Speaker 1: This is how this works.

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Speaker 3: If they would have won yesterday, it would have been

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Speaker 3: and the streets were just flooded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, confetti came down, right, That was after a playoff win. Actually,

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Speaker 3: The level of hype, yeah, second round, the level of

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Speaker 3: dart camp Skataboo for life. And I think they would

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Speaker 3: a little playoff run, maybe at least win a playoff game. Now,

444
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,239
Speaker 3: nothing really happens they're just delaying the end. They're not

445
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,679
Speaker 3: really stated by the loss because they don't really have

446
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 3: high expectations, but they're still happy about their duo, so

447
00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 3: they're just waiting for their time to celebrate and stick

448
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,160
Speaker 3: it in everybody's faces. This did hurt a little bit,

449
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 3: but not really not in the place where these I

450
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 3: was about, say Nicks fans, These Giants fans actually are right.

451
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if you're a Giants fan, to count

452
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 4: to counter your point is he you have the piece

453
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 4: in the quarterback. You have what is probably the piece

454
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Speaker 4: in your head coach, because he's the one that identified, hey,

455
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 4: this is who I want to be my quarterback.

456
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 2: Where you can have the wide receiver in neighbors who

457
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: was hurt by the way, who was hurt.

458
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 4: So now you can kind of build off that and

459
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 4: be like, Okay, the defensive coordinator, he has to go.

460
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 4: We have to find a kicker. The Giants go into

461
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 4: every game without an NFL caliber kicker.

462
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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

463
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 4: It is unbelievable how many times this Giants team just locks.

464
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: To me, the team that can't find the kicker. They

465
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: can't find a fucking kicker. It's unbelievable.

466
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Speaker 4: You're right, and it's different. It feels like it's a

467
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 4: different kicker every time that we're talking about this. Where

468
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 4: some teams have trouble identifying their next quarterback, the Giants

469
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 4: have the same troubles identifying their next kicker. And it

470
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: seems like once they do get somebody, they get hurt.

471
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 4: But you can hang your hat. Dable Dart neighbors as

472
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 4: your core. You got to get rid of the defensive coordinator.

473
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 4: You gotta find somebody that could identify a kicker.

474
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: So this is interesting because and I said this, this

475
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: was the Giants trump card. This was Dable and Joe

476
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 2: Shane's trump card. Hey we're gonna start oh in three,

477
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 2: here's our trump card. His name is Jackson Dart. If

478
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: he works out, perhaps we'll keep our jobs. I do

479
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 2: think Jackson Dart has performed well with Dabele as the

480
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: head coach. Is he and we talk about this all

481
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: the time. Rookie quarterbacks and they're on their fifth offensive

482
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 2: coordinator in four seasons. You probably want to keep the

483
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: stability of the Giants organization. Since it appears that Jackson

484
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: Dart likes whatever it is that Briant Daball is selling him.

485
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: So I do agree with Taylor from this point, that

486
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: stamp point. But how do you justify the fact that

487
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 2: that same head coach had Daniel Jones signed to be

488
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: his quarterback, had Saquon Barkley as their running back. Barkley

489
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: goes to the Eagles when was a Super Bowl last year.

490
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 2: It appears all Daniel Jones needed was someone like Jonathan

491
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: Taylor to be effective, and the Giants couldn't figure that

492
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Speaker 2: out and make it work.

493
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Speaker 1: The whole thing. The Giants are fascinating to me, they

494
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: really are.

495
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: Don't be fooled if Frian day Ball had a good

496
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 3: quarterback and a good running back and could do nothing

497
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Speaker 3: with it.

498
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Speaker 1: Believe that, like take note of that.

499
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 3: Trust that, okay, because when Jackson Dart comes out here

500
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: and does, hey, I'm doing everything possible and we still

501
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: only have two wins, you can't give the coach credit

502
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, like you've got to see exactly

503
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 3: where it's It's not like Jackson Darts out.

504
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: There executing a great game plan.

505
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: In fact, most of what he's doing successfully is unbroken plays,

506
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 3: And is that Dave Ball's Should he get credit for that?

507
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: For what the quarterback can do unbroken plays.

508
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so, But.

509
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: Is he How much of a believer are you in

510
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: keeping stability for a young quarterback? If you believe in that,

511
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: then you then you should probably keep Brian dayball.

512
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: No, well, it's stability over like, what are you reinforcing?

513
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: Are you reinforcing bad decisions, bad things that you're being

514
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: you know, taught by this coach if you are constantly losing,

515
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 3: if you've got a locker room that half of them

516
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: can't stand the coach and are thinking that he's holding

517
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: them back, and the other half or maybe oblivious. I

518
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: think it's not the best for a quarterback who has

519
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: to manage all of that because he's got to be

520
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: on the coach's side. He can't go against the coach

521
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 3: because if that gets back to the coach then it's just,

522
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: you know, that's not a great relationship to have. So

523
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: I think you can't just blindly say stability is better

524
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: when the consistency is yeah, they're consistently bad.

525
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 2: We are presented by FanDuel and the FanDuel sportsbook.

526
00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: Rashid Rice's back.

527
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 3: Huh, I'm telling you man that put that on the

528
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: ball tailor.

529
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: She rises back. I didn't even know he was this good.

530
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie yesterday.

531
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Speaker 3: There's a couple of things about this game which just

532
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: had me cracking up.

533
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: First.

534
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Speaker 3: I just kept thinking about my bold prediction the other day.

535
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: I've never been so sure that the Chiefs are gonna

536
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: win the Super Bowl, thinking that that was like a contrary.

537
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: Type of way to step out on.

538
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 3: And you just check the numbers and their favorite to

539
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: win it all, which is effing crazy.

540
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: Okay, But the main.

541
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Speaker 3: Thing I learned from this game is never trust Patrick Mahomes.

542
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: Whatever he tells you, the opposite's about to happen. Because

543
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 3: even before, like he famously now got this this clip

544
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: for life where he's trying to get them off side

545
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: of the hut and then he just says, this fucking

546
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: shit never works. And it was like one of those

547
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 3: moments where he knows the camera's picking everything up, the

548
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: MIC's are picking everything up, and it's like, Wow, this

549
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: is gonna be great. And then he goes back to

550
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: supposedly do it again, and then he runs.

551
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: A play one yard first down.

552
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: Yes, but even before he did that, like I was

553
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 3: watching him because he's the maestro. He's got control of

554
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: that quarterback position better than anybody else in the league.

555
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: And so there's a play where he's you know, maybe

556
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: there's trips on the left and he's talking to the

557
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 3: offensive lineman about like what, you know, whatever they're supposed

558
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 3: to do right here on the right side, and it's

559
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: a screen path to the left. Those offensive linemen were

560
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: never part of the play ever, and so it's just

561
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 3: whatever he's telling his lineman, whatever he's telling his teammates

562
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: on the field. He's probably like, that's how that they

563
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: have such a well oiled machine.

564
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing.

565
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes knows how to get those signals across. And

566
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: sometimes I'm gonna say some bullshit just to get the

567
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: defense off and it works.

568
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Like that stuff actually works. You see that no low

569
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: pass to Rice by the way, Yes, unnecessary. You're already

570
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: that good.

571
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 2: Yes, there's no need for that. I'm with you, Like,

572
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: what if that gets picked off and goes the other way? Seriously,

573
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: what are you doing?

574
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: It's just so good man.

575
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: And when I say, like I said this with Mena

576
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 3: the other day, like they know how to win. Factor

577
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: with him is greater. I don't say that like people

578
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 3: say about coaches, right like, Oh, he just knows how

579
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 3: to win the big Like there's actual little details about

580
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: every single game that some of these quarterbacks or some

581
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 3: of these offensive coordinators or some of these head coaches

582
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: don't pay attention to every single game, every single drive.

583
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: The one person who has more control of the game

584
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: than anybody else is the quarterback. And Kansas City just

585
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 3: has the perfect one, the perfect robot of a quarterback.

586
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: He's even leading them in rushing this year. Is that's

587
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: still correct? Like he might be their leading rusher this season,

588
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: and you're not even afraid because he's so savvy.

589
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: That he's not going to get hit.

590
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 3: He's it's just such a perfect quarterback and he is

591
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 3: the main reason why I think they're going to win

592
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 3: a super Bowl. But I also think he might be

593
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: the greatest quarterback ever. And we're only like five or

594
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 3: six years away from him confirming that.

595
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: So Pacheco is now there leading rusher with two seventy populations.

596
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: Mahomes is right behind him at two fifth. If we

597
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 4: were doing if we were doing a Monday morning like

598
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: who's hot, who's not? Stock up? Stock down? Mahomes, stock up,

599
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: stock down.

600
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, I'm so tired of this Chargers.

601
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, enough.

602
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 4: Like like, don't let Tua.

603
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: Don't we do stock up? Stock down? I mean, Jesus,

604
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: don't let Tua.

605
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 4: And the fact that Tua is an absolute disaster in

606
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 4: Miami distract you from the fact that there's a lot

607
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: of problems with with this Chargers, justin Herbert team, and

608
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: every time we're ready to crown them as the team

609
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 4: that's gonna dethrone the Chiefs in the AFC West, they

610
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 4: kind of laid down a stinker because everybody that was

611
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: the most popular pick this week, where it was like, oh,

612
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 4: the cults are riding high, they're due for a letdown.

613
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: They're going out west the Chargers. Not only did the

614
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: Chargers look bad playing wise, those uniforms they were wearing.

615
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: Get rid of those uniforms.

616
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: You don't like those, get rid of you did. Yeah,

617
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: it's like sunshine on the field. There's plenty of shun

618
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: sign in LA I don't need anymore.

619
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: And it was it was even more well playing against

620
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: a team in white.

621
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't love it.

622
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: Terrible is a little bit more contrast, but I like

623
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: the I would wear it no.

624
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: But here.

625
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: So remember when we were talking in the preseason what

626
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: it was I think it was preseason what it was

627
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: about justin Herbert that he doesn't.

628
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: Do well, and we were all like, I don't really know.

629
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: I think it's just late in games his brain turns off,

630
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: and I'm like, is that really it? I can't figure

631
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 3: it out, And then watch him at the beginning of

632
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: this season, I was like, you see, he's got it

633
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: all figured out, he's fine, and now he's back and

634
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: I don't really under like quarterback assessments very difficult.

635
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: Like I could tell you everything that.

636
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 3: Tua was not good at, but I don't think I

637
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: can tell you what Herbert is not good at, maybe

638
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: because I don't watch every single down, but I don't

639
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: know what he's not good.

640
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: At because at winning.

641
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exact opposite of what I just said about

642
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, And you're right, that's what it is.

643
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: Yes, stock up, stock down next?

644
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: Oh yes, please, I've been waiting for this moment my

645
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: entire life.

646
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: Yes, stuck up, stick down next,