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Speaker 1: From how Stuff Works dot Com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline, and today we

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Speaker 1: are talking about anxiety and stress, and right out of

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Speaker 1: the gate, I think we need to establish the difference

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Speaker 1: between just run of the mill stress that happens every day,

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Speaker 1: trying to get to work on time, things like that,

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Speaker 1: and anxiety. Right. Yeah, everybody experiences stress, and everybody even

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Speaker 1: experiences anxiety if you have the right kind of stress

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Speaker 1: or facing you like if you have a big job interview,

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Speaker 1: or you know whatever, a first date, first something scary

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Speaker 1: or exciting. Um. And so that's that's just normal stress

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Speaker 1: and anxiety. Thanks, Siety is normal behavior, correct, it's a

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Speaker 1: normal response. Yes, National Institutes of Health approved. Yes, they

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Speaker 1: you always have that fight or flight feeling like at

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Speaker 1: any moment you're ready to punch someone and run, then

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Speaker 1: then you might, you know, have a disorder because when

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Speaker 1: we think about that, that normalized anxiety, we can usually

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Speaker 1: trace it back to stress because it's kind of like

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Speaker 1: aggravated stress. And whereas with with anxiety that becomes more

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Speaker 1: of a disorder. It's a lot more nebulous as to

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Speaker 1: why why it's happening. There's nothing really to be stressed about,

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Speaker 1: but for some reason, even riding home on the train,

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Speaker 1: I'm speaking out right. Yeah, well, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: And that social anxiety disorder is is one of the

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Speaker 1: five sub types of anxiety disorders, and it can really

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Speaker 1: lead to completely shrinking your world down because people people

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Speaker 1: with with honest to goodness social anxiety just can't stand

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Speaker 1: to be out among a lot of people. They really

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Speaker 1: know could trigger that anxiety. So, like you said, Caroline,

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Speaker 1: person with anxiety is still going to worry about it,

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Speaker 1: then especially after they're going to be thinking like, oh

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Speaker 1: and laughing at me, and they'll just replace scenarios. And

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Speaker 1: I was there. Um, So that's sociophobia. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the five. And then we talked about just the generalized

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Speaker 1: anxiety disorder UM. And then there's O c D, which

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Speaker 1: UM is often characterized by repetitive movements, such as having

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Speaker 1: So like I will get into bed at night and

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Speaker 1: And then we also have rounding out the five post

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Speaker 1: traumatic stress disorder, which we've heard about so much she's

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Speaker 1: PTSD is linked to some kind of traumatic stressful situation

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Speaker 1: You are not okay, right, No, you're not You're not

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying that anxiety disorders are

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Speaker 1: know your thoughts about anxiety. Guys out there too, really

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Speaker 1: curious about sold tending and befriending notion in whether or

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Speaker 1: you've observed. Moms. Stuff at how stuff works dot com

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Speaker 1: email from Richard And this is in response to our

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine about HPV vaccine, and he points out

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Speaker 1: correlation causation. Just because there have been people who have

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Speaker 1: cervical cancer. So I just wanted to clear that up.

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