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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty six Winter Olympics are in full swing,

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Speaker 1: and in a few days I am heading to Milan,

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Speaker 1: Italy to commentate the women's figure skating short program with

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Speaker 1: my friend Snoop Dogg. I want to get a real

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Speaker 1: look at all that goes on behind the scenes of

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Speaker 1: this demanding sport, so I've asked Johnny Weir to join

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Speaker 1: me on my podcast today. Johnny is a two time

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Speaker 1: Olympian and NBC's lead figure skating correspondent. Welcome to my podcast, Johnny.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me, and thank you

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Speaker 2: for all you've done for the Olympics. And I have

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Speaker 2: to say as we start, as a young person watching

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Speaker 2: your show made me feel like I needed to elevate,

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Speaker 2: so I thank you very much for that.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice.

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Speaker 1: You are so informative, and you're going to teach me

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Speaker 1: all the things I have to have in my brain

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Speaker 1: so that I can say sensible and accurate things about

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Speaker 1: the programs that we are going to talk about.

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Speaker 2: So is snoopkokle to Tara or is the goal here

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Speaker 2: that you will end up being far more informed?

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Speaker 3: Well, of course, of course.

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Speaker 1: The latter, But Snoop says everything in such a delightful

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Speaker 1: manner that you don't know if he knows what he's

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Speaker 1: talking about or doesn't know what he's talking about, and snoop,

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Speaker 1: he knows a lot. He's an amazing sports person. He

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Speaker 1: loves all sports and he really appreciates the athletes, as

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Speaker 1: I do too. I mean, I can't believe what you

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Speaker 1: guys can do. I mean, I can ice skate, but

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Speaker 1: I have never done anything resembling figure skating. It's just

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Speaker 1: an incredible sport. I really admire the effort and the

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Speaker 1: practice and the nerve it takes to be a figure

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Speaker 1: skater in today's world.

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Speaker 2: You you do have your sparkles, so I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: halfway there.

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Speaker 1: And I know designers who design much of the clothing

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Speaker 1: on the ice, and we're there too, but not in

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Speaker 1: those skates. By the way, are the skates different today

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Speaker 1: than they were twenty years ago?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's so different than they were

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Speaker 2: twenty years ago, but certainly much different than they were

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Speaker 2: in the early nineteen hundreds. Back then, there was no

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Speaker 2: support at all. It was basically a regular boot, almost

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Speaker 2: slipper like in terms of how flimsy it is just

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Speaker 2: attached to at the beginning, it was whalebone when skating

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Speaker 2: started in Holland. Wow, whalebone is what they skated on,

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Speaker 2: and then eventually it turned into a blade, and then

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Speaker 2: a stainless steel blade, which we still use today. Figure

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Speaker 2: skating is a very traditional sport, so we like to

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Speaker 2: hold on to our traditions, and no one's really established

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Speaker 2: a new kind of blade. And then the boots are

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Speaker 2: just they're very strong. When you first get a pair

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Speaker 2: how stiff they are and how compressing they are. But eventually,

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Speaker 2: over time, if especially if your boots are leather, some

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Speaker 2: people have more man made fabrics and materials that make

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Speaker 2: did start to mold to your foot and it became

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Speaker 2: boots and blades for season, and they became kind of

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you have to break

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Speaker 3: Wow wow.

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Speaker 2: But I'd say the best comparison I can make is

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Speaker 2: figure skates are quite similar to how you see ballet

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Speaker 1: I looked at my skates the other day just because

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Speaker 1: I'm because I'm doing this, and they were I'm not,

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Speaker 1: They're not. They're not my best friends. I ruptured my

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Speaker 1: achilles tendon four and a half years ago. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: ice skating is not really a sport for me any longer. Really,

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Speaker 1: But I can walk, but I don't think I can

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Speaker 1: skate really well anymore. And they looked at those ice

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Speaker 1: skates and it's really incredible that you can put your

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Speaker 1: oh boy, it looks even more incredible than when you

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Speaker 1: were competing. Has it changed, It absolutely has. I mean

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Speaker 1: same as music. There's very much an idea in any

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Speaker 1: that have such a talent that we never thought we'd see.

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Speaker 1: In the men's event, there's Iliam Mallinin who's doing quadruple

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Speaker 1: jumps that I never thought were possible. And the women's event,

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Speaker 1: the level of consistency and grace and beauty is tremendous,

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Speaker 1: plus the technical difficulty, and every sport's quite different in

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Speaker 1: the way that you prepare your body. Body types for

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Speaker 1: different sports are all, of course very different. Figure skaters

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Speaker 1: yourself and the mental fortitude it takes to live that

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Speaker 1: most beautiful, artistic sport in the world, and it's amazing

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Speaker 1: what they're doing now. It is incredible. Well, you're going

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Speaker 1: to be commentating with Cheryl Lipinski. How did you guys

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Speaker 1: begin working together as a broadcast team.

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Speaker 2: Well, Tara and I, despite being quite close in age,

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Speaker 2: just started to skate. I started when I was twelve,

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Speaker 2: And we knew of each other but never really met

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Speaker 2: And then I was set to commentate for all of

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Speaker 2: well and we both enjoyed it so much, which is

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Speaker 2: its rare from two individual figure skaters who are used

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Speaker 3: Someone, let alone share your spotlight.

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Speaker 2: With somebody, And we just immediately felt so comfortable that

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Speaker 2: most wonderful career that I get to share with my

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Speaker 2: hope that you have a similar situation with Snoop where

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Speaker 2: something beautiful with your best friend.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, So let's start from the beginning. This is

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Speaker 1: what are the categories of competitive skating.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we've got men's individual competition, we call them

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Speaker 2: men's singles. So that's where gold medal favorite in the

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Speaker 2: United States, Ilium Malinin will will be competing. Then we

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Speaker 2: have women's individual competition, which is women's singles to the skaters,

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Speaker 2: so women's singles, men's singles. Then there's pair skating, which

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Speaker 2: is a man and a woman skating together. The man

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Speaker 2: They jump side by side, they do parallel spins, things

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Speaker 2: man and a woman dancing together to kind of mimic

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Speaker 2: ballroom dance. It's the newest of skating disciplines is ice dance.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think that's correct.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's quite elaborate too. I mean the steps and

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Speaker 1: the speed with which they.

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Speaker 2: Dance, Oh yeah, And I mean it can come down

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Speaker 2: you're a skater. But the ice dancing gold medal can

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Speaker 2: come down to one edge. Whereas in the singles disciplines

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Speaker 2: or in pairs, it can be a fall, a very

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Speaker 2: visible mistake that can decide gold from silver, but an

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Speaker 3: That's how close the competitive those teams are Wow, Will

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Speaker 3: you ever be a judge? Do you think?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to do that. I think I'm judgmental

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Speaker 2: enough as a commentator. I don't know what i'd be

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Speaker 2: like as a judge.

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Speaker 1: So what's the difference between the short program and the

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Speaker 2: Well, the short program has required elements you have to do.

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Speaker 2: In the singles disciplines, you have to do an axle jump,

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Speaker 2: which is the only jump that takes off going forward,

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Speaker 2: quadruple axle in the short program. But America's Amber Glen

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Speaker 2: and the women's discipline will attempt to triple axles three

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, has she shown that jump already to us?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yes she has, so it looks very good, very strong.

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Speaker 2: She just used it on wraps her third straight US title.

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Speaker 2: But the short program has required elements, and it's shorter,

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Speaker 2: obviously it's two minutes and fifty seconds. Free skate is

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Speaker 2: more free. With the elements, you don't have to do

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Speaker 2: choose which ones you want to do. There are three spins,

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Speaker 2: a step sequence which is to show up your skating

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Speaker 2: skills and how well that you can do is sort

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Speaker 2: of the foundational work and the foundational turns in skating

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Speaker 2: and a quoreo sequence choreographic sequence where you do the

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Speaker 2: beautiful moments, the spirals, the arrow desques, the spread eagles,

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Speaker 2: the ina bauers, things like that, and it comes all

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Speaker 2: together to twelve elements. That's your technical score that all

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Speaker 2: of those elements build up tour and then the old

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Speaker 2: artistic score is now broken down into three categories and

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Speaker 2: the judges give a score from this is getting very

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Speaker 2: in the weeds, but the score for the artistry is

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Speaker 2: three different criteria, three different scores, and it's between one

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Speaker 2: for terrible and ten for perfect, and each judge gives

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Speaker 2: and how detail oriented it is and how so subjective,

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Speaker 2: yet generally the cream will always rise to the top.

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Speaker 2: And the judging system that we have now you may

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Speaker 2: remember from that old system with the six point zero

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Speaker 2: was the perfect score, and each judge gave two scores.

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Speaker 2: It was so limited and it was very easy to

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Speaker 1: Oh, and the screaming and the screaming that went on.

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Speaker 1: I remember I went to the Nagano Olympics. That was interesting, wonderful.

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Speaker 1: So which do you prefer as a skater? I always

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, it's going to be very fun. What individual

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Speaker 1: US women are currently among the best female skaters in

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Speaker 2: Wow, But it's tremendous the level that the American women

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Speaker 1: And so these are Amber Glenn, Alissa lu and Isabeau Levito.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's our South Jersey girl, Isobe and just from

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Speaker 2: I was never one who watched that cartoon, but I

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Speaker 1: talk here. So when I'm out there with Sup, well,

440
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: those are the powerpuff Girls, snoop, you remember those.

441
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 2: I just know that they're being compared to Powerful Girls

442
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: because they're so different and so unique to each other.

443
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 2: But they're wonderful friends, which is rare in our sport.

444
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: And I think social media has had a big influence

445
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: on people being kinder and nicer in our sport to

446
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: one another. But to go through them quickly. Alissa lou

447
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: was the youngest US national women's champion ever. I think

448
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 2: she won when she was thirteen years old. Thirteen incredible, yeah,

449
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 2: and it was it was not so long ago. I

450
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: think she's twenty one now. I have all the bios.

451
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: Ages aren't my thing.

452
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: And she's attending UCLA. Yes, and she was an Olympian

453
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two.

454
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 3: What did she win. She was not on the podium

455
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: at that Olympics.

456
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: And she told me that what she loves about skating

457
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: now is that she doesn't feel like her whole life

458
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 2: is on the line. And when you're a young skater,

459
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: a young athlete, you do feel that way. You go

460
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 2: onto the ice and you feel like everything your worth

461
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: is coming down to this next four minutes. But she

462
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: actually stepped away from company after that Olympic season, and

463
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: she just one day, all of a sudden, decided to

464
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: come back and she had to find her skates. They

465
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: were very deep in a closet that she was on

466
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: a ski trip with friends, and she had stepped into

467
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: having a normal life, if I can call it that,

468
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: because most athletes at an elite level don't have what

469
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: people would consider a normal life, And she came back

470
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: into it last season, and she went from zero to

471
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: world champion in just a few months. So that's any

472
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 2: testament to the amount of talent that she has. I

473
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: think that's the beautiful story. And she's one of these

474
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: very free and frolicking and very aura oriented young people

475
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 2: where she's all about expressing her art and she doesn't

476
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: care so much about metals. She wants people to watch

477
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: what she's displaying on the ice and her performances. And

478
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: of course she jumps very well and does all the

479
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 2: elements you're supposed to do, and she skates very consistently

480
00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: and cleanly, but she just has this dancing on a

481
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: cloud feel to her skating, and she's so enjoyable to watch,

482
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: and I think, what's your style, Like, what kind of

483
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: skater do you gravity?

484
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: I guess to almost the extreme. I love to see

485
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: attempt things that have never been attempted before. But Amber Glenn,

486
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go to Amber. Let's go to Amber,

487
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: because I think she might be right up your alley.

488
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: So Amber is a testament to resilience. And she has

489
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: been on the cusp for so long, and now she's

490
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 1: in her mid twenties, which for most figure skaters is

491
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: getting older.

492
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: And heading toward the end of your very competitive days.

493
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: And somehow she's better than she's ever been. She's one

494
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: of the few women in the world that can land

495
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: a triple axle, like we talked about earlier three and

496
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: a half revolutions. She'll need it if she wants to

497
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: be on the podium. But she's one of those skaters

498
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: that instantly makes you feel like you're at center ice

499
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: with her. She brings you in. She wears her heart

500
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: on her sleeve, and she's one of the best and

501
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: bast is across any sport that I've ever seen for

502
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: good sportsmanship. And she supports all the young skaters coming

503
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 2: up and applauds everyone, even in the most tense situations.

504
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 2: I see her ice side clapping for the person who

505
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: just skated before them, and I just think she has

506
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: a tremendously welcoming style and the triple axle is going

507
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: to be an exciting moment for her. And if she

508
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 2: skates well, she has a chance just as much as

509
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: Melissa does to be on the podium. And what about

510
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: Isabe And isabe is a quintessential perfectionist figure skater. She

511
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 2: has very balletic posture, perfect fingers and hands like this

512
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: is important, Actually, Martha, can you give me like a

513
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: little of that hand, Like give me a little pinky up,

514
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: middle finger down and we tuck the thumb. Remind me

515
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: when I see you in Milan that we need to

516
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: work on that.

517
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: A little bit.

518
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: But the grace and elegance I can do that little

519
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: imagine that your fingers are feathers. Yes, okay. But Isabeau

520
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: is that skater in a snow globe, that perfect ballerina,

521
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: China adult whatever you would want to classify her as.

522
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: But that classic skater girl that you think of from yesteryear.

523
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: How old is is Abo? Somewhere in her late teens

524
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: early twenties. I'm terrible with age.

525
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 2: I can't remember if I'm forty one, sixteen, or seventy

526
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: three most of the time. But there Isabe's from New Jersey,

527
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 2: Ambers from Texas, and Alyssa is from California. So they

528
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: couldn't be more special, more unique, and definitely deserving of

529
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: all of the applause coming back from the States.

530
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: So there's so much excitement about them. And they're very attractive.

531
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see them. And they're good friends, you said,

532
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: very good friends, and they're so supportive of one another.

533
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: I have what color would you wear if you were

534
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: competing at the Olympics. Do you think maybe we get

535
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 1: two costumes? You have a short program and a long program. Well,

536
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: my favorite is gold.

537
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: Gold is good.

538
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: I'd probably wear gold for both. No, no, maybe I

539
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: would wear like silvery gray. So just blend right in

540
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: with the ice. You're just gonna be nostrils and eyelashes.

541
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: But it's sparkling fine.

542
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: I love that sparkling Markland metallics.

543
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: So let's get to the men. Because these guys, now

544
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: they all have Russian last names. Yes, are they all Russian?

545
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: They're all first generation Americans. So Ilia Malanin's parents represented

546
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: Uzbekistan in the nineteen ninety eight and I think two

547
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: thousand and two Olympics, And so he's a child of

548
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: two Olympians himself, but they are Russian born. Andrew Trgashev

549
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: is of Ukrainian and Russian heritage. Both of his parents

550
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: competed for the Soviet Union, and Maxim Naumov, his parents

551
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: were world champion figure skaters for Russia and the Paris

552
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: Discipline Olympians themselves, and we very sadly lost them in

553
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: the plane crash last year. I know, how is he?

554
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: How is he born up after that? Was he on

555
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: that plane crash?

556
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: He was not.

557
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: He had already left the championship and was home waiting

558
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 2: for them to come home. And it's hard for me

559
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 2: to watch him without welling up with tears and just

560
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: thinking about all the years I saw his father standing

561
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: by the boards for him and cheering for him.

562
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: And now he has a chance to really bring home

563
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: a big medal for us.

564
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: Yes, and he is tremendous and he's done so well

565
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: this year. I think that he has so much strength

566
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: around him, and he has so much mental fortitude. And

567
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: he said the easiest way for him to make it

568
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: through was to compartmentalize, so every day of his life

569
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: wasn't consumed with grief. He made sure that every every

570
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: day he spent a certain amount of time contemplating his

571
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: parents and thinking about the lessons that they taught him

572
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: over the years. And then he marches forward. And he

573
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: was one of the best moments of the US Championships

574
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago because he came through and achieved

575
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: a dream that he and his parents had set long

576
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: long ago.

577
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 3: Remind us who wilse diried on that plane crash.

578
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: It was a number of skaters from the National Development Camp,

579
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: which is a camp that US Figure Skating puts on

580
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: for young skaters to develop special talents and to really

581
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: go to that international level, their coaches and many of

582
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: their parents as well. So we actually it's as we

583
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: record this, it's been a year, and today's a very

584
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: sad day for us in our community because we did

585
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: lose so many people that we knew and loved and

586
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: respected and admired, and certainly the future of our sport

587
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: was flying on that plane. So it was a huge

588
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: loss for all of us, and I know that it

589
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: rocked our world in so many ways, but skating really

590
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: came together in mourning and in grief and in celebrating

591
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: the lives that we lost. And I think in the

592
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: performances that we've seen since that accident, I know that

593
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: each of the skaters are representing Tmosa or skating for

594
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: a whole lot more people than just themselves. It's tragic,

595
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: but people people skate on and I think the best

596
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: thing that skaters can do for skaters is sparkle for them.

597
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: So he got a bronze in twenty twenty six, Andrew

598
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: got a silver in twenty twenty six. Yes, and okay,

599
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: so we're we're gonna be watching these guys. And Ilia

600
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: is he just the wildest of the three.

601
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: He is wild, and he skates in a way that

602
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 2: is so born like. It's just so inherent the way

603
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: he skates. His parents told me many times we didn't

604
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: want him to skate because they know what skating is

605
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: like and what it can be, that life can be

606
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: very cold and very lonely, and they said, we didn't

607
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: want him to skate, but of course he was at

608
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: the rink all the time while they were teaching, and

609
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: he just started trying and he has never had a

610
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: bad coach experience. He's had two Olympians his parents as

611
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: his coaches from his first steps on the ice. So

612
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: he's predisposed to be very talented. But it's not just that.

613
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: It's not just the technique. It's just not how strong

614
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: he is mentally. It's his bravery to try things no

615
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: one has ever tried before.

616
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: Like seven quadruple jumps in a single program. He was

617
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: the first to do that.

618
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: Exactly, He's the first to do it because not because

619
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: no one's tried it, it's because no one can. So

620
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: the axle we talked about is the only one that

621
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: takes out going forward. It's the most difficult because it

622
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: adds a half revolution because every jump lands backwards. And

623
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: he can do the quad axle, which he's it's an

624
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: exclusive skill for him. It's like Simone Biles and many

625
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: of the tricks that she would do in Paris, that

626
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: she's the only person in the world that can do them. Well,

627
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: that's the quad axle for Alia, and then he can

628
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: do every other quad. We have not just the axle,

629
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: but the lutz flip, Luke, Salcou and Tolu.

630
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to remember all those names. I'm gonna

631
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: have to write them flaps card and my promise, I'm

632
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: going to have to write between my fingers, I get

633
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: cheater so I can say that at the Olympics.

634
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: Here's the thing where I don't know how close we're

635
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: going to be sitting in the lawn, but I will

636
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: send a carrier pigeon with carts.

637
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: Please do please let me know. Yes, But Alia, he's

638
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: done that the quad axle. He's the first person ever

639
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: to do, like watching the man first walk on the moon.

640
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: And he has this wonderful abandon when he skates. It's

641
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: wild almost but also very refined and sophisticated.

642
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 3: So he is the gold medal favorite bar nut.

643
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: It would take a complete disaster for him not to

644
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: win the Olympics.

645
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: Now, what about skating costumes? I can't wait to see

646
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: what these guys are going to be wearing. But they

647
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: bring a whole dimension of creativity to the sport. Which

648
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: designers did you work with? Did you work with Vera Wang?

649
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: Did she ever do men's.

650
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: As she did? She actually designed for one of my

651
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: biggest rivals.

652
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: His name was Evan lysichek Oh, and I liked to

653
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: design my own costumes because I was a micromanager and

654
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure that every line stone that

655
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: I put out there in front of the world, I

656
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: had to say in because I had to own it.

657
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: Once you're out there, we're completely alone. So additionally, I

658
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: liked my costumes to sort of tell a story. Because

659
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: athletes so rarely have a voice or an opportunity to

660
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: explain to people what they're doing.

661
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: They have to rely on the commentators.

662
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: So Tara and I take it very seriously when skaters

663
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: say this is what my program's about, please say it. Oh,

664
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: and we call them programs, not routines. That's something that

665
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: would make you feel like an insider or an outsider, okay, programs.

666
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 2: So the costuming, it's really important because it helps tell

667
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: the story. It's like the other character of your performance.

668
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: Our costumes help us tell a story. And Viierra Wang

669
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: has designed for many of the top skaters. Oscar Della

670
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: Rena has a costume in the pairs event for one

671
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: of the most inspiring stories actually, Deanna Stilato du Dex.

672
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: She was a single skater in America. She retired for

673
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: quite some time now. I believe she's forty one at

674
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: time of the Olympics. But she's going to be the

675
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: oldest Olympian in almost one hundred years or something like that.

676
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: Oh she's wearing Oscar dela Reenta ooh.

677
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: And you know, the costumes are very important, just as

678
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: much as the music selection because it helps completely tell

679
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: your story when you're out there.

680
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: And is that music all pre recorded for the event.

681
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: It's all pre edited.

682
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,919
Speaker 2: So most skaters choose their music in spring, they work

683
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: on choreography through the end of spring. Beginning of summer

684
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: they start training and developing the program more before competition

685
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: starts in October, so by February, by the Olympics is

686
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: when they should all be peaking. And every skater has

687
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: chosen music that either means something to them that they

688
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: think will sell really well to an Italian audience. Even

689
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: though the Olympics is a very international audience, there's still

690
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: no better feeling than being in the arena and having

691
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 2: the whole building stand up for you, because it makes

692
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: you feel like the world is standing up for you.

693
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: And a lot of people have chosen Italian music. Ilia

694
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: Malanin has spoken word that he actually speaks in his

695
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: free skate, but it's about showing the world who you are,

696
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: your individuality, your creativity, and it could be hard about

697
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: to choose the same music as somebody else.

698
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: Do you have.

699
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: Any like would you skate to Snoop Dogg? Do you

700
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: think no, it's too slow. It's just I like this

701
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: costume of yours. Oh, thank you very much you designed that.

702
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: I designed that because that's twenty ten at the Olympics

703
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: and it was still wow. It was still a time

704
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: in history when you know, my people couldn't get married.

705
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: So I wanted to make sure that I wore pink

706
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: in support of you know, stereotype of gay people loving pink.

707
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: And I also wanted to wear a corset because I

708
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: was terribly thin and I wanted to show that off.

709
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: Well, now you can get a part in that in

710
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: that hockey series is on TV.

711
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 3: When you watched it yet I only just did.

712
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: Oh, I only watched episode one and I think part

713
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: of two.

714
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: Okay, So we get away from from the dirty bits

715
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: and we went into the love story Martha like it's

716
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: oh we do.

717
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

718
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: It gets into love like it does feel good and

719
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: syrupy and homey by the end of it. It starts

720
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: very aggressively and it reminded me so much my youth,

721
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: because you know, when you're an athlete, you don't want

722
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 2: people to focus on who you are, but you want

723
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: them to focus on what you're doing exactly. And even

724
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: in figure skating we have people think it's a very

725
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: flamboyant sport and there's so many gay guys, and believe me,

726
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: I wish.

727
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 3: There were more gay guys in my sport.

728
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: But for the most part, the love stories happened behind

729
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: the scenes because you never wanted to be judged for that.

730
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 2: So whether you were gay or straight, you kind of

731
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: kept everything under wraps. But definitely finished series on the

732
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: plane over to malat.

733
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: So you and your bedazzled headsets, you and Tara, what

734
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: are you doing this year?

735
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: Can you give us a sneak?

736
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: Well, we definitely. We overpack for sure. So we bring

737
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: between the two of us around between sixteen and eighteen

738
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 2: suitcases because we want to be ready for anything.

739
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: These suitcases are trunks. Do you have those nice.

740
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: Trunks remov a tru Yes, and they essentially drive themselves

741
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: at this point, like I stand back and I pushed

742
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: an all eight of mine just travel through.

743
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 3: JFK. What color do you have? I have a little mixture.

744
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: I've got some green and black, and I have some.

745
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: I have some old ones.

746
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: They're called double suitors that they don't make anymore, so

747
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: I just bought whatever they had left in the company.

748
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: So I have some random red one.

749
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: I write online in between the lines. Do you know

750
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: they have the little regions? I write every place I've

751
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: ever been, So they've had mine on exhibit in the

752
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: window because they had they had never seen that. They've

753
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: never seen anybody write every and I have. I've been

754
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: to so many cities and countries right that I put

755
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: them and the dates I put the dates and the

756
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: and the places I've been.

757
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: They're very fun. They're they're collector's items. Now I want

758
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: to start doing that. That's amazing.

759
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: You should, you should, because you go, you go all

760
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: over the place.

761
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: I mean, who else has ak Who has Baijan on

762
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: their Remova suitcase? That's right? Very few people, by the way.

763
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's and it reminds you too of where

764
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: you've been. But I love those Remoa everything Remoa. It's

765
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: just they're great.

766
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: Are you with this Salvic person?

767
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Like do you said and think about the places you've been,

768
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 2: the things you've seen.

769
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm always thinking about where I have to go

770
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: or where I want to go, the next place. I

771
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: haven't been, where I'm going, you know. That's what I

772
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: think about. People always say what's your favorite place? It's

773
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: where I haven't been.

774
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: Where haven't you been? Where you're going next? I mean

775
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: Milan you've been to of course?

776
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been to Milan, and I've been to Courtina.

777
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: And I went to the Turin Were you at the

778
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Turinic Olympics?

779
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: That was my first Olympics? Oh that was your first?

780
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: Oh I was there.

781
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: But I ate a lot of gone Julia hazel nut chocolate.

782
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: I ate lots of that great everywhere for everything.

783
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: I feel like I had a drawer full of it

784
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 3: by the time I came home.

785
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: Oh, of course you did all that, those hazel nuts.

786
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: And we went to the hazel nut factory.

787
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: You know.

788
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: I was doing a whole lifestyle reporting there. It was

789
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: so much fun. And I went to the Nagano Olympics

790
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: that's probably before your time.

791
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: That's where won her Olympic gold medal.

792
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: That's right. And oh it was so beautiful there. Oh

793
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: my gosh, I loved it so much. But well, let's

794
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: see what's happening in Milan this year. It's going to

795
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: be fun. I talked to Mike Cherrico yesterday and Mike

796
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: Cherrico said, the ice is very good.

797
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 3: Now, had you skated on it?

798
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: No, he just checked that he was told that it's good.

799
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: Well, okay, fine.

800
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: I just pictured him in skates, like hockey skates or

801
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: maybe speed skates, actually with a monocle.

802
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: Checking the ice. Yes, So tell me about the ice.

803
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: How do you know it's good or not good? What

804
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: kind of ice do you have to have to compete beautifully?

805
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: So if you're not a skater, this wouldn't make sense

806
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: at all, But for hockey and speed skating, they're like

807
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: very hard ice. So when the temperature gets turned down,

808
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: it makes the ice very hard and shattering it. Figure

809
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: skaters toe pick in for a jump and the ice

810
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: is shattery. You make a huge hole and ice just

811
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 2: goes flying everywhere. So we prefer when and the degrees

812
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: are up a little bit, like what degree? Well, I mean,

813
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: I'm not necessary, I don't know. I'm not a scientist.

814
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 3: You're not a physicist. You're not a physicist, rice, No,

815
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: not a physicist or an ice expert.

816
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: But I know that We like it when it's warmer

817
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: because it is more of a cushion when you come down.

818
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: As wild as that sounds, but it's something like four

819
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: or five degrees warmer than what hockey likes, and it

820
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: helps us to feel more secure because our sport's all

821
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: about digging into the ice and really grooving and edging

822
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: along with the ice, whereas hockey and speed skating are

823
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: more about running on top of the ice. So if

824
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: it's hard and shattery, it's hard to really dig down

825
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: into your edges.

826
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: So you already gave away the answer, but I might

827
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: wanted me to ask you exactly how many pairs of

828
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: shoes you're bringing.

829
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: I mean to be fair. We were talking about it

830
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 3: before we began.

831
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: But tomorrow's my packing day, and I don't know if

832
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: you get anxiet, I eat up packing that I always do.

833
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: I hate to pack. It's the worst.

834
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Do you wait till the last minute or do you

835
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: have to do it like the day before.

836
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: I've cleared a full day tomorrow before we fly, to

837
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: only focus on tissue wrapping everything and putting everything together

838
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 2: and bubble wrapping the fragrances because I'm a fragrance freak.

839
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: So I'm bringing twelve bottles of cent just because I

840
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 2: need to have choice in the morning.

841
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 3: What's your favorite scent?

842
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: There is a scent called Iris Porcelana from ex Nilo.

843
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: It's a French company and it is It's Iris as

844
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: it sounds in the most bit of German.

845
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: German Iris.

846
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: It's I'm a beard, the bearded Iris, that beautiful, big,

847
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: big Iris, flower purple.

848
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: It's the purple Iris with a huge, huge Iris. But

849
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 3: it's that's that's a German Iris. I love a very

850
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: powdery scent that lingers.

851
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: So I like to go in and out whenever I

852
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: attend something, and I just like the cloud of my

853
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: essence to stay there, and this fragrance does that for me,

854
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 2: so people will remember that I was there, but also

855
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: question if I was there.

856
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: Oh okay, we're gonna smell you when we come. Bring it.

857
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 3: I get up in here all of this. Oh boy,

858
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: oh boy.

859
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: So good luck packing and good luck with your trip.

860
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna have so much fun.

861
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: So I'm still looking forward to meeting you in real

862
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: life if there's the moment, but I will no matter what,

863
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: send smoke signals and pigeons with no cards for you.

864
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: Okay, And I have one last unrelated question. What are

865
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: you sitting in front of? What primitive painting is that

866
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: behind you?

867
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: This was I'll pull you away in a second, but

868
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: it was on a Swedish so my home is in

869
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: the Gustabian style and it was from eighteen seventy five.

870
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: It was on the wall of a kindergarten in Yotuborg, Sweden.

871
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: And when they were demolishing the building they saved these

872
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: panels and there were two and somebody had bought the

873
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: other one out from under me. But it was at

874
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: one of the beautiful antique chops in Stamford, because I

875
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 2: never knew that Stanford was like the first port for

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Speaker 2: a lot of furniture and antique.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it just it makes me so happy, And as

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00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: my European travels kind of wind down, it reminds me

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00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: of a more European tree and just makes me feel

881
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: all the good nostalgic things because I always think about

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00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: where I've been more so than where I'm going.

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Speaker 3: Very nice. It looks beautiful. So that's a big wood panel.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I see, it really is, and it's just and

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Speaker 2: what's in front of it a mantelpiece.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's a sofa. It's a little sofa. Oh,

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Speaker 3: a Swedish sofa. I see.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what those sofas were. They were

889
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Speaker 1: like the first convertible couches. Does that have a bench

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Speaker 1: in it that can pull out?

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Speaker 3: This doesn't have a bench that pulls out.

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Speaker 2: But I have another one over there that has the

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Speaker 2: back that comes completely off so you can sit either way.

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Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, Oh, I love that. You're lucky. You have

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Speaker 3: all that furniture that's very valuable and beautiful. There are

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00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 3: you know, my treasures.

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Speaker 2: I'm a cancer, so I'm a homebody and I love

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Speaker 2: just sitting amongst beautiful things like a hermit.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's a whole other story. Yes, Johnny Weird,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. We will see you soon in

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. And best of luck at the

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Speaker 1: opening ceremonies at the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to see them. Thank you. I can't

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Speaker 3: wait to see you there. And have safe travels.