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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio Happy Black

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Speaker 1: History Month from Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 2: We have an incredible two part QLs classic episode. It's

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Speaker 2: a legendary Millie Jackson and her equal legendary daughter, Keisha Jackson.

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Speaker 2: This mother daughter tandem was wonderful. When QLs got them

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta back.

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Speaker 1: In September twenty twenty three, million in.

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Speaker 2: Particular kicked down many adore about what you can say

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Speaker 2: on record and what you can't say on record.

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Speaker 1: But she said everything and she's not one of the

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Speaker 1: miss words. All right, So here's part one.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy Suprema Sun Sun Supremo.

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Speaker 3: Roll Call, Suprema South South Supremo Roll Call Suprema South

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Speaker 3: Supremo Roll Call Suprema South.

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Speaker 1: Suprema Quest Love Supreme. Yeah, and we down South.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe we got fante at the house.

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Speaker 3: Suprema Suprema Role call Suprema So so, Suprema role called.

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Speaker 2: My name is Fantee. I hope y'all miss me. I'm

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Speaker 2: feeling good. Yeah, but you feeling bitchy?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, my name is Sugar. Atlanta's lit. We're

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Speaker 4: doing roll calls back to the ship.

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Speaker 5: Supreme It's like, yeah and we're back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Jackson ladies are here. Yeah, all ready for that.

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Speaker 3: No supreme pick it up, Suprema Supremeo.

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Speaker 4: Roll call.

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Speaker 7: My name is Keisha.

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Speaker 8: Yeah I don't know.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I had to say it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, my mama's Supremo roll.

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Speaker 7: Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 10: Ain't no roll call, y'all, just calling out my side

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Speaker 10: back to the ship. Yeah, Supprivo roll call, Supremo Supremo, roll.

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Speaker 3: Call, Supremo Supremeo, roll call, Supremo Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 1: Wow, first time in three d yo. Know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: This is a.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. We were.

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Speaker 2: We were ladies and gentlemen. We were very nervous. Like

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Speaker 2: you should have seen us. It was like not even

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Speaker 2: the first.

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Speaker 1: Day of school.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna see this on this Yes, oh god,

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Speaker 2: they're literally seeing us right now. Man, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: welcome to an episode, just a regular episode of Quest

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Speaker 2: of Cyprise.

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Speaker 1: Fante. How did we get you out the house?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Is this the first time you left North Carolina? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even minus gigs or whatever.

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Speaker 2: No, we didn't play those gigs. We didn't not been

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Speaker 2: on the stage in two we did the first Little

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Speaker 2: Brother show we did. It was in May March, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was. I was outdoor gig we opened for Silver

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Speaker 2: net so but that was it.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been nowhere. I've been in the crib. I've

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Speaker 2: been knocking on wood, you know, gratulations and sliding. No COVID,

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Speaker 2: no nothing.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations.

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Speaker 4: I know how we got him at the house.

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Speaker 1: How do we get him out the house?

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Speaker 4: It's an all expense paid trips.

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Speaker 1: Jack, What are you talking about?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: He almost started crying the second she saw us, because

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Speaker 2: the way we hugged it was almost like I was

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Speaker 2: feeling like it's Bill Sherman's funeral or something like.

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Speaker 1: Because Bill's not here, I.

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Speaker 2: Assume he's still at Sesame Streets, which is why.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, Fonte, almost we are here. I told him

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Speaker 11: we almost busted a titty yesterday in our first, our

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Speaker 11: first hug.

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Speaker 6: It felt so good. Wow, it was just so tight.

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Speaker 7: It was good.

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Speaker 11: Though I missed him. I missed Fonte. Ain't nothing like

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Speaker 11: a Fonte hug. You if you had one, you know

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Speaker 11: out there, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's really as good to see y'all.

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Speaker 11: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's if I really missed y'all.

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Speaker 4: I got my Fonte h.

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Speaker 2: Okay, saying I got my f Yeah, I got my

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Speaker 2: publisher's clanhouse thing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So I will say that we had Quest left Supreme.

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Speaker 2: Definitely didn't want to go third year without at least

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Speaker 2: a Supreme roll call, so it was important that we

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Speaker 2: to do this in grand fashion. So in case you're listening,

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Speaker 2: we took a pilgrimage to the Great State Old Georgia. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're going to be here doing many, many episodes that

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Speaker 2: you'll hear. Probably the next six or seven Quest Love

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Speaker 2: Supreme episodes will be based in Atlanta, Georgia. Wait, I'm

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Speaker 2: in Georgia. Yeah, you're in Georgia right now. We're not

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Speaker 2: in New York and.

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Speaker 4: They don't let me have very much, so I see

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Speaker 4: this is good.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, without further ado, I'll say that we're

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Speaker 2: really excited to have our special guests on the show. Wait,

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Speaker 2: can we also just admit that we are now officially

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Speaker 2: on YouTube.

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Speaker 6: Line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been doing this. No, well, I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize until the Steve Rifkin episode that we

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Speaker 6: YouTube page with Jennifer Lewis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even wait, the Jennifer Lewis episode from people that

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Speaker 2: don't even listen to Yeah, we made it to the

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Speaker 2: talk on that one.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're legendary on.

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Speaker 6: The top Jackson, but we're.

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Speaker 1: Not really on the talk.

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Speaker 2: That means that, you know, wow, okay, right now kids

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Speaker 2: know us well. I'll say that I've been begging and

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Speaker 2: hoping and wishing for this moment for the longest, and

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Speaker 2: it was when we did said Steve Rifkin episode in

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Speaker 2: which we've reminded that as legendary father, Jules had signed

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Speaker 2: our guest today to the label. I don't know, thoughts

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Speaker 2: just started racing my head because it's like I see

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Speaker 2: Spring Records almost as the precursor of like a deaf

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Speaker 2: Jam simply because our guest today is truly the mother,

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Speaker 2: She's the creator of rap. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: And I mean not to mention Jules Rifkins also signing

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Speaker 2: James Brown, which damn near provided the landscape for every

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Speaker 2: sample that we had on the label. Fabbecks King Tim

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Speaker 2: Spring Records is a super legendary. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 2: ever seen have a a warning sticker. That was my

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Speaker 2: That was in my uncle my Dad's don't touch that

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Speaker 2: part of the record collection, which instantly meant I got to.

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Speaker 1: Hear it the first time.

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Speaker 7: What she said?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what's that? Yeah, that's that's that's this moment.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And you know it's such a legendary disciography. I mean,

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Speaker 2: name these like there's caught Up, uh still caught Up,

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Speaker 2: even better than the sequel. Uh, the aforementioned feeling bitchy,

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Speaker 2: her so good, my favorite Live and Uncensored. I think

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Speaker 2: I got first got sent to the principal's office for

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Speaker 2: singing uh fuck you in the third grade. That's the

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Speaker 2: first time I got sit at the principal's office. Uh

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Speaker 2: back in third grade. Not to mention, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about her legendary play productions and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, young man, older woman, Uh, you gotta

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Speaker 2: remind me about flor reen on on Martin. Also, oh

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Speaker 2: my yes, that just hit me right now as we spoke.

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Speaker 7: Got a check last week.

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Speaker 2: Yes, come with it, not to be outdone, because epigenetics

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Speaker 2: is real. Yes, her legendary daughter is also joining us

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Speaker 2: right now. We've known about I've known about her since

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Speaker 2: the late eighties. But you know, she's done amazing work

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Speaker 2: with like a lot of our favorites with you know,

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Speaker 2: name him Do Whitney Brown, Houston.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention the legendary outcast.

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Speaker 2: She she has history, she has legacy, you know, the

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Speaker 2: the daughter's a legacy project that she's been a part

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Speaker 2: of with Isaac Hayses, like this sort of the progeny

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Speaker 2: of of all the greats of.

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Speaker 1: Isaac Hayes's kids.

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Speaker 2: Yes, of uh Al Goodman right, of the moments in

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Speaker 2: Ray Goodman Brown.

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Speaker 5: No, they don't say no, they don't. The kids don't

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Speaker 8: So it's not so you just.

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Speaker 9: So it's Isaac, Isaacay's daughter.

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Speaker 5: We had Ray Charles's daughter, she's in and out sometimes

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Speaker 5: we have any right, Betty Wrights, right, uh huh.

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Speaker 8: And we have.

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Speaker 9: Ruth Pointer's daughter who was also.

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Speaker 2: That his daughter, oh we found out were Bonnie.

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Speaker 5: And we have Anne Nesby's daughter Jimmy sounds of blackness.

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Speaker 2: But not to mention you've been hipping me to the

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Speaker 2: Your Yacht Rock Review project, which I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: talk about. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to Quest Loft Supreme. Incomparable.

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Speaker 2: Now I feel like Don Cornelius because I say, be incomparable.

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Speaker 2: Millie Jackson, Keisha Jackson, the Quest left Supreme, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I will say that this episode probably started forty five

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Speaker 1: So how are you, ladies today?

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Speaker 7: I'm fine?

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We were paying homage to you, you know.

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Speaker 10: Oh, that's why you were saying back to the ship

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Speaker 10: and filling by.

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Speaker 1: The Queen is coming.

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Speaker 7: I wasn't ready and me either.

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Speaker 1: And fuck you, yes, thank you, Yeah, I got you.

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Speaker 10: You can't even spell it and you still saying it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely can you spell? Fuck you? Yes?

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Speaker 7: Spell it? Your spell it?

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Speaker 4: Give me a shot?

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Speaker 1: Good p h U c K.

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Speaker 7: You ain't finished?

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Speaker 2: Eh you dash you?

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Speaker 1: Oh e you no? Just he is you? Just you?

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Speaker 1: Just me you c K dash you Yes that's how

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Speaker 1: you spell it? Yeah? No, it felt good to be

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Speaker 1: cursed out by Millie Jackson.

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Speaker 4: My life.

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Speaker 6: Just told me my mom was dirty.

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Speaker 5: I was like, word all my life. That's what people say.

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Speaker 5: I want to meet your mom so she can cuss me.

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Speaker 1: Out right exactly.

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Speaker 2: Our first question of the show is can you two

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Speaker 2: share your first musical memory?

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Speaker 9: Mine is her?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, speak on, Yeah, my musical memory was her, but

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, not to interrupt you, but were you

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Speaker 7: Absolutely?

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Speaker 10: She did background for the show. I beg your pardoner,

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Speaker 5: No, I was there like nothing. Listen, we'll get into

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Speaker 7: Yes, it goes down, so definitely goes down.

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Speaker 7: I did that what us once?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 7: Uh no, he was what do you mean?

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Speaker 7: I said, I just met your mother, he said.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I did not want to work with him.

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Speaker 7: No more.

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Speaker 9: Like you know, it's for me to speak like that,

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Speaker 6: She had the brothel, right, so like she been.

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Speaker 6: You was her people? Probably she probably was like that.

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Speaker 6: I'm fucking with that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, you know, I think in the case of

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Betty Davis the actress No no, no, no, no, not

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Speaker 10: I met Miles and he was more like the other one.

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Speaker 6: Are you serious?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They who were the So were there any guys in

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Who are the people that really was in your corner?

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Speaker 7: Joe Simon?

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Speaker 1: Oh wow?

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Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, he was one of the owners actually of

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, our audience they'll know Joe Simon from Drowning to

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Speaker 7: But he died about a year and a half.

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Speaker 10: A year, Yeah he did, and he had I sent

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Speaker 10: him preaching that. Yeah, he gave he gave it up

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Speaker 7: I said, did I do that?

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Speaker 1: But for you before you got your deal? Like I

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Speaker 2: Not really really, So tell me about your being, Like,

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Speaker 10: I owe my entire career and cussing and everything else

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Speaker 1: Okay, who was he?

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Speaker 11: Like?

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Speaker 10: Billy Billy Nichols. He had a band and a group

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, what year is this?

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Speaker 7: Nineteen seventy one?

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Speaker 10: In fact, though I did one song prior to that

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Speaker 10: with MGM, a little bit of Something's worth more than

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Speaker 10: But how.

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Speaker 6: Do you learn? You said two years to learn how

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Speaker 7: I already knew.

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Speaker 1: How did you? When did you feel safe?

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Speaker 2: Because the thing is that, even though we're joking about it,

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Speaker 10: All they had to do was see my live show

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Speaker 7: The live show.

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Speaker 10: Or oh yeah, they say adults only. Okay, okay, So

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Speaker 10: You see nothing here and get cussed out. If you

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Speaker 1: Okay, ladies are good, you're doing well. You're doing well

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Speaker 2: So when in the studio, at least when you are

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Speaker 10: Sang the song, shut the hell up and turn the

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Speaker 1: Really, so you would just do it live with the

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Speaker 10: And yeah, whatever comes up came out. I mean it

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Speaker 1: Tell me go in that's the first line.

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Speaker 8: Wait for you to keep going.

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Speaker 10: But I'm saying, you know, I do unfinished singing. If

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Speaker 7: So now you see the terrible.

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Speaker 10: And on stage, you know, you see the terrible thing

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Speaker 1: So two versions, Yes, that's the show.

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Speaker 10: Fun.

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Speaker 6: You know it was a life God damn.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you just have you were You were nominated for

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Speaker 7: Why do you want to remind me?

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Speaker 10: Why do you I didn't even want to be in

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you your flowers. I'm giving you your flowers.

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Speaker 7: Let's get in tall.

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Speaker 1: The story that let's talk about.

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Speaker 10: They gave it to Aretha Franklin for a fucking song

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Speaker 10: that was two years old?

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Speaker 8: What was this?

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Speaker 1: Ain't nothing like the real thing one. I think that you.

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Speaker 8: Two years old.

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Speaker 7: It shouldn't have even been nominated.

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Speaker 6: It shouldn't have been. It shouldn't have it.

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Speaker 9: Was it Clive, No, it wasn't Clive. It was pre Clive.

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Speaker 8: Because it was I don't know who it was, but

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Speaker 1: And yeah.

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Speaker 5: it was like it was Mom, it was I think

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Speaker 5: All the other ladies knew what was going down, so

454
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 5: when it came time.

455
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 11: But how does that affect your relationship with Aretha? Because

456
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 11: technically it wasn't her fault. That's her people like putting

457
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 11: it in, you know, placing her in the right place.

458
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 10: I have no problem with Aretha except for the fact

459
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 10: that I was also booked by the same agency and

460
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 10: I wouldn't let up the hallway one day.

461
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 7: She was there.

462
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 6: What does that you wouldn't let her?

463
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 10: She she was coming up the hallway and I stepped

464
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 10: in front of and she looked at me like and

465
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 10: stepped over. And I stepped over again, and I said hello, Lordretha,

466
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 10: and she says hi. I said, that's all. I just

467
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 10: come up here every day after I get off from

468
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 10: work and I see you, and you won't speak. So

469
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 10: I was determined that you was gonna say hello to

470
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 10: me today. You can go on back to fucking business.

471
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 9: It's just be life.

472
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 7: Boom.

473
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 1: I love it. Energy.

474
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I still had my day gig.

475
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,919
Speaker 2: So you're still working. You were still working like a

476
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: regular job. What were you doing? What was your day job?

477
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 9: I was working in the garment district, Yes.

478
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: In New York City.

479
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 10: In New York City, yes, doing what Yes, I was,

480
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 10: And I work from nine to five and get up

481
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 10: for working, go up to Queen's Booking Agency to see

482
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 10: my agent.

483
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 7: Every day, who also booked Aretha.

484
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,239
Speaker 10: In fact, they damn near booked everybody black, but the

485
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 10: top of.

486
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 7: The list was.

487
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 10: Sammy Davis Junior, Dinah Washington, and when Dinah died, they stuck.

488
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 7: Aretha in there. Yeah, but it was.

489
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 10: Sammy Davis Junior, Dinah Washington and the jazz artist what's

490
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 10: her name?

491
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 7: I can't think of a name.

492
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 11: It's all right, I'm curious. I'm like, were you priority

493
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 11: in this list?

494
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 7: Oh?

495
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: Hell no.

496
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 5: That's where the Aretha problem comes in because.

497
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 6: So it's so many Aretha issues because they had.

498
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were, she was on their roster, and so

499
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 5: she got the gigs and she was pushed down.

500
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 7: The thing up.

501
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 10: The reason I ended up at Queen's Booking Agency is

502
00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 10: Henry Nash was the tour manager for a show I

503
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 10: did prior to him going to Queen Booking Agency. He

504
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 10: was on tour with Elsie Cook Sam Cooks. Yeah, and

505
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 10: we toured for two years prior to him going to

506
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 10: Queen Booking agency and booking me.

507
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

508
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 10: In fact, I didn't even have a record when I

509
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 10: was out there.

510
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: And we've seen what else he was that gospel? Was

511
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: that primarily gospel?

512
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 7: Hell to the now gospel?

513
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: What was he?

514
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 11: So?

515
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: What was he wasn't a gospel singer?

516
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 7: No?

517
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 10: Oh okay, no, he just never had a hit because

518
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 10: of his brother. His brother just took away all his stardom. Yeah,

519
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 10: but actually he he had one I think he maybe

520
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 10: had one album, but he had.

521
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 7: To do blues.

522
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: So with you, when you were talking about them putting

523
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: you in the blues category and olymping you with blues artists,

524
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 2: where did you want to be?

525
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you were more soul R and B?

526
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: Where did you want to be?

527
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 8: I was?

528
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 9: I talked a lot.

529
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 10: I talked too much, so I was like the female

530
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 10: Isaac Hayes.

531
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: Ikes wrapping up? How did those collaborations come about.

532
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 7: Me and Isaac?

533
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, we both ended up with the same record company

534
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 10: and they wanted me to do something with a man.

535
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 10: I said, well, you got Isaac's cross.

536
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right. Isaac did sign the Polydor and yes, seventies.

537
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 7: I was with Spring who was distributed?

538
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: What was Jules Rifkin, Like, Jules Rifkin was everywhere.

539
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 10: No, No, Jules Rifkin was there because he was Roy

540
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 10: Rifkins's brother. Roy Rifkin was the president, Julie was the

541
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 10: vice president.

542
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 7: But who actually took.

543
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 10: Care of all of the music and had the ear

544
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 10: was Bill Spatowski.

545
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 6: Wow, I didn't remember his name from Steve.

546
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 7: They all did, now, Okay.

547
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: And this is the thing.

548
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: Whenever we have either an act or an executive that

549
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: was especially active in the sixties and seventies, you know,

550
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 2: the question I always asked him is I know that

551
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: labels were mafia run.

552
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 10: I don't think the Rifkins was in that.

553
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: No, No, no, they weren't. I know.

554
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: But it's like, how do you avoid running into them?

555
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: That's the and that's the thing that amazed me about

556
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: Jules Rifkins, the fact that you know, in the days

557
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: of marsh Levy and all of you know, the the

558
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: mafia run labels and whatnot, like coal do was German? Well, yeah,

559
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, Like this is the beginning of

560
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: the major labels establishing and taking out the smaller labels.

561
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: How did you avoid because usually with.

562
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: From what I know is that if you have some

563
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: sort of success or nariety, then they're going to take

564
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: you or Jackie or your manager winds up dead in

565
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: the alleyway somewhere.

566
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 10: I didn't have one of those. They would be give

567
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 10: yourself the prize.

568
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: So you've managed yourself pretty much.

569
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 10: Who never had? How does that happen? You keep your

570
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 10: day job.

571
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: So you never want This is not the first time

572
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: I've heard this, because.

573
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 10: So you can tell somebody to go fund yourself. I

574
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 10: got a job paid with without you.

575
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 6: Hey, but how do you do the business? You still

576
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 6: got to do the business representing yourself, like because.

577
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 7: You majored in business.

578
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 6: Let's talk about it. I see we didn't get to see. Okay,

579
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 6: I need to know.

580
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: This is interesting to me because I'm just finding out

581
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: makes so much sense that Bill Withers didn't even feel

582
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: safe in leaving his airport job until adjustments came out.

583
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: So that means still Bill, just as I am, he

584
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: was working, he was.

585
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: He was he was an airplane and the airplane wow wow.

586
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: So picture of him.

587
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: With us, yes, so that the cover of the album

588
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: the last thing he's actually on his lunch break with

589
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: his actual yeah, like I thought they manufactured that thing, like,

590
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: oh you know every day got Bill Withers.

591
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: No, he was like, this is my lunch break. Take

592
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: the photo.

593
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: So for you working, that was the way of keeping

594
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: your autonomy, that was a way of all.

595
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 10: Yes, I worked down in the garment district and I

596
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 10: got my all of my uniforms for twenty off of

597
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 10: the regular price. Not no, no, we don't deal with.

598
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 6: That wholesale price. Wholesale you got twenty wholesale sell.

599
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 9: Yes, that's where all your stage clothes came from.

600
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Yes, you never said that explained?

601
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 6: So what you never said what your job was in

602
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 6: the garment district? What was the gig?

603
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 10: I was assistant supervisor of shipping far Kimberly Nitwell.

604
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 7: Shipping.

605
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 6: Yes, power in that.

606
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 2: Well, are you about to go get a job right

607
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: now in the garment district shipping.

608
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 6: I'm just thinking about how she used that power.

609
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: There's no shame in that. You know. I've always had

610
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: nineteen jobs and now I got seven. So yeah, and.

611
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 10: I knew since I was in the garment district, I

612
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 10: know where to go and get all the Ryan Stones

613
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 10: and his stuff to put on my Kimberly.

614
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 6: Knit Well ooh, and they liked that you woreter shit to.

615
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 10: Know, they did not like they kept and they didn't

616
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 10: know anything about any of that. The point is when

617
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 10: I hit the stage, I looked like I was one

618
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 10: of them people that was making a whole lot of

619
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 10: money perception because I had my twenty percent off wholesale hotel,

620
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 10: lots and lots of rhyme stones and beads that I

621
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 10: sold on myself.

622
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: Keisha, when did you know that? You said, you know

623
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 2: you were a kid us go around music. It's you know,

624
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: it's just normal. When did you know that it wasn't normal?

625
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: When did you know that?

626
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: Your mom was like, holy shit, my mom is like

627
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: a start.

628
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 7: She didn't know it to I sent her to college.

629
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 5: Well, so I got a I kind of started to

630
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: feel it. We moved from Brooklyn to Tack.

631
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: Jase, Where were you? Where were you born? And where

632
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: were you born?

633
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 10: I was born in Thompson, Georgia, one hundred twenty nine

634
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 10: miles north.

635
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Of here of Atlanta, Georgia, Okay.

636
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 9: And I was born in Brooklyn, King's County Hospital.

637
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: You're ruling King's County, Jordan, Okay, So Jordan.

638
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 5: She moved on her own basically from Georgia to New

639
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 5: York wow, and.

640
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 10: That to Newark were up north. People in Georgia didn't

641
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 10: know no better, they including me.

642
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 7: New York.

643
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 10: She's gone to New York walk took two years before

644
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 10: I decided to go to the Apollo Theater and had

645
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 10: to go through the Holland Tunnel.

646
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 7: Now much what you do?

647
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, what is what?

648
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a buck with you.

649
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 7: I haven't been in New Yorker.

650
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 9: She had no idea.

651
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna keep it a buck with you. I

652
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: still I'm sorry New Jersey. And while I'm at it,

653
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: I'm also sorry New Zealand. Like I just sort of

654
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 2: considered y'all New York like like I consider New Zealand

655
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: Australia behind everyone's back and they get mad at that.

656
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: Yes, right, and New Jerseyans and whatnot.

657
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 2: I actually think it's better to look at New York

658
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: and live in New Jersey than to actually.

659
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 10: Be Okay, So everybody that was recording and working in

660
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 10: New York telling people they lived in New York actually

661
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 10: live across to George Washington Bridge and t Neck and Inglewood.

662
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 6: They still do that.

663
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you the real reason why, because

664
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: you got to keep your family based on where I

665
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: live right now, I ain't trying to put people out there,

666
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: but I definitely know that my apartment is side Chick Central.

667
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 6: That's a nice Yeah, that's a Sidechick building.

668
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: And I'm just saying I see a lot of Lamborghinis

669
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: and you know whatever, and that's where I can't mention that.

670
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: I will say, yeah, I will say that most people

671
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 2: you are in New York.

672
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I live in Manhattan.

673
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, okay, and we'll see you.

674
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: I'll see a lot of sports figures in my building,

675
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: like they live here.

676
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: And then I realized, ah, okay, but you midtown, right, No,

677
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: I don't live I'm.

678
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 8: Trying to keep it low.

679
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 7: What's what one question?

680
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 10: When you leave Jersey to go to New York, do

681
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 10: you go through the Lincoln Tunnel, the Holland Tunnel or

682
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 10: the George Washington Bridge Holland Tunnel?

683
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 7: Oh you what wasn't mean?

684
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 6: What was it?

685
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't.

686
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 7: Downtown New York.

687
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I live George Washington Bridge.

688
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: You at the time, No, I don't live near George

689
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: in two minutes away, you know me?

690
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 7: Okay, so you go cross the George Washington bridge.

691
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 10: Ain't nobody to go go all the way downtown to

692
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 10: go through the Lincoln Tomas.

693
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: I live downtown, But.

694
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 10: You're gonna expose all the people like me and Theleys

695
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 10: and everybody else that claimed they were in New York.

696
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 6: The famously Jersey I.

697
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 5: Feel Raging and Brown Chuck Jackson, they were all neighbors.

698
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 6: And so when you moved to Jersey as a kid.

699
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 5: So when I moved, right, I moved from we moved

700
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 5: from Brooklyn to Teck and I was six, and so

701
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: at that point I knew, okay, we're moving.

702
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 9: On up, Like I knew something was up. But did

703
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 9: you know? You just you just go like but.

704
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 6: You was going to the ship. Now you weren't going

705
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 6: to the shows by that time. You didn't know what

706
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 6: you were doing.

707
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 9: No, I didn't know.

708
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 5: I was just it and I wasn't paying attention to

709
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 5: the shows. I'm in the back, probably playing with somebody

710
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 5: else's kids. Can't wait till the show was over, you know.

711
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 5: And then so but it was when I went to.

712
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 10: She did not see me at the Apollo, which Apollo,

713
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 10: which Apollo shows something you can feel Apollo where you're

714
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 10: going around the feeling. No about the other apollos when

715
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 10: you were allowed to come to the show but not

716
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 10: to go out in the audience.

717
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 5: Okay, because I used to sell the roses with the

718
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 5: lights in it.

719
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 8: So that's what I was.

720
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 9: And pictures what.

721
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 7: You're talking about.

722
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 6: She majored in business.

723
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 7: But this was before I had nothing to do with

724
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 7: She had nothing to do.

725
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: No.

726
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 5: I was just like, that was my way of kind

727
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 5: of hustled, my way to get on to get on

728
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 5: the road. So I stayed in the lobbies during the

729
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 5: show selling the light the lighted roses. And then they

730
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 5: always wanted to buy from Millie's daughter. Okay, we had

731
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 5: several people, but no, I told him because I wanted

732
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: the money, you know. I was like, because my mother's

733
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 5: getting ready to come up. That's your yes, ma'am, how

734
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 5: many broses do you want?

735
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: You know?

736
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 5: So that's what I would do to just kind of

737
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 5: cassette types pictures and.

738
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: So was it was it just y'all was like, well,

739
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: where was your dad? Was he in the picture of

740
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: this time?

741
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: You were.

742
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 10: Again no, no, he did not say no.

743
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: So it was so it was y'all two and you're

744
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 2: working in the garment district and you had you were

745
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: were you born by this time?

746
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: Was it was this solid.

747
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 6: Time when you were having your nine and five en

748
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 6: garment District?

749
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 9: No, that was big before me.

750
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Oh that was before you. Okay, No, because I was

751
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: trying to see, like were you taking care of the kid?

752
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: Working and doing I.

753
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: Was like, man, okay, got you. What I do want

754
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: to know is in your day job? Did they know

755
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: you were legendary Millie Jackson?

756
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 7: No?

757
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: Wow, how I.

758
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 8: Wasn't that I was going to say.

759
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 10: At that time, I stayed there the Sephony one, okay,

760
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 10: and I had had a little bit something wasn't lord

761
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 10: then a whole lot of nothing now then that was

762
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 10: my first song clean, not a curse word in it.

763
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 10: Then in seventy one, Joe Simon putting them a child

764
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 10: of God is hard to believe that it's called a

765
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 10: child of God, and in parenthesis it said it's hard

766
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 10: to believe. And Joe Simon was promoting this song on

767
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 10: the album and they were telling him off and he

768
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 10: had to go crazy. The DJs was saying mad at

769
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 10: him because they thought they were they was gospel station,

770
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 10: a child of God.

771
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: And when the.

772
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 10: Record first came out, you know, but they after they

773
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 10: finally got it. Uh, and they heard you see the

774
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 10: terrible thing about going with a married man, and yes,

775
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 10: so they thought the gospel turned yes, And Joe Simon

776
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 10: is saying, is.

777
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 8: It my fault you didn't read the title of the

778
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 8: song or listen to the song before.

779
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 7: It's hard to.

780
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 10: Believe it's in parenthesis under a child of God.

781
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's That's still one of my favorite songs though.

782
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 10: Just because of this, I know some people who go

783
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 10: to church on Sunday them that same people or watching

784
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 10: Lyunchon on Monday talk about justice and being free.

785
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 9: But they'll watching Lynchon so easily. Yes, it's hard.

786
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 7: Hard to believe their child love God. Yeah.

787
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,760
Speaker 8: Wow mm hmmm, serious business.

788
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 9: Some people call these people children of God. M So

789
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 9: glad we sitting.

790
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 6: Here with you.

791
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: This is amazing. So okay, So you mentioned y'all didn't

792
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: have to get quiet, didn't.

793
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: No, No, you were seeing we take folks to church

794
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: and talk.

795
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: We listened. I was just doing a little You went.

796
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 2: To Jive Records in eighty five. Wild Hot I'm Restricted

797
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: was in nineteen eighty five or eighty six.

798
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 10: I put them out of business, cussed time to sign

799
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 10: a new contract and I asked for so much money,

800
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 10: Spring couldn't pay it and they closed the dose.

801
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: Right, and then Barry signs you to jive. Is that

802
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: how you know the beer is different in the UK.

803
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: Yes, That's why I didn't want to ask.

804
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: When did Battery Studios get built? Because every artist that

805
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: was on Job Royden in London would have to fly

806
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 2: to London record once.

807
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: Okay, and I start.

808
00:41:58,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 7: Then I started cussing.

809
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Well wait, okay, so what was the decision.

810
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying your comeback, but Hot Wild, Unrestricted Crazy

811
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: Love wasn't you know?

812
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: That?

813
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 4: Was?

814
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: That was your your your mainstream offering without the spice?

815
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: First of all, whose suggestion was that?

816
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: And how long was it before you decided to go

817
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: back to?

818
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: Actually?

819
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 10: Hot Wild Unrestricted Crazy Love was.

820
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 7: Done by.

821
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 10: U two writers that they already had signed. They was

822
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 10: staff writers.

823
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: I see, and you recorded that album in the UK.

824
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 9: Not the whole album, no, just a couple of songs.

825
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: What was that experience like recording over there?

826
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 10: They were that's where the company was that for two

827
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 10: days and back.

828
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: Home experience okay? Everyone else was like, you know.

829
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 10: I was the producer, so after that, so wow, I

830
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 10: don't go into the studio till I know what I'm.

831
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 7: Getting ready to do.

832
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: I see it, And most.

833
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 10: Of the songs was written by me, so yo, I

834
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 10: knew what I was gonna do.

835
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: Wait, you were right live in the studio. No, it

836
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: was never demoed ahead of time or when I.

837
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 7: Was the producer.

838
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 10: I would do the track off the top of my

839
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 10: head because I already got the words.

840
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 7: I already wrote the.

841
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 10: Song, and then I'd go back and do it again,

842
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 10: the the vocals again because I said a word that

843
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 10: kind of off.

844
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 7: I think I should do that over. But you do

845
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 7: that when you produce it.

846
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: When you say do the track? Would you like dictate?

847
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 2: Do you actually play instruments?

848
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: Would you dictate the ideas to other musicians? How would

849
00:43:59,400 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: you do it?

850
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 7: Ain't doing no instruments.

851
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 10: I played keyboards to write the song, and then I

852
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 10: ain't playing on it no more.

853
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: This is the song.

854
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 10: I played the keyboards on childiguard and then he come

855
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 10: see what I'm doing, and he do what I'm doing

856
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 10: and do it better than me, because I can write

857
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 10: fok songs while I'm playing the keyboards on one song.

858
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: I have a question I want you to talk about.

859
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: Uh, there's a song of yours called give it Up

860
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: and with your advocated.

861
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 7: Going to hell.

862
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, that's not a song title. Youre going

863
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 6: to hell.

864
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: I was just you're not supposed to use the Lord's

865
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 2: name in vain.

866
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 7: Ain't that something?

867
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: Now?

868
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 5: I had to say that to her before because I

869
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 5: she heard me say goddamn it.

870
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 9: She was like, don't come. I was like, you made

871
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 9: a whole record.

872
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 7: Give it up. God damn, give it up right now,

873
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 7: give it up.

874
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: You look, I'm just recapitulating. No, But I mean at

875
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: the time it was it was I'm a little pushing

876
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: because people weren't thinking about rights for women or rights

877
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: for the LGBTQ, like.

878
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: They weren't even identified back then.

879
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: But what made you like was that your demographics like

880
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: who who was in seventy nine? Like I really became

881
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: familiar with you with my aunt. My aunt used to

882
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: always play live and I'm restricted. So that was when

883
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: I realized, like, oh, my dad got Millie Jackson records

884
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: and then I go back and see them at the bottom

885
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 2: of the pile or whatever.

886
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: But who was coming to the shows?

887
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 2: Because even at those shows, the audience is almost louder

888
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: than you are, so it's it's like, who was your

889
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 2: audience at that time?

890
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:49,760
Speaker 9: Let me say something.

891
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: Yes, I remember, I wasn't into the audience. I distinctly remember.

892
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 5: I distinctly remember her being on phone multiple times talking

893
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 5: to potential promoters, people booking shows, and she would say,

894
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 5: when is it the twenty ninth, that's it, that's the

895
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 5: last week of the month. The people that come to

896
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 5: my shows don't have no money. So it was welfare recipients,

897
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 5: it was people that she knew.

898
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 9: They knew when that knew.

899
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 8: She did not play.

900
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 9: She did not play around with it.

901
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: And there what times that she would say, I'm not

902
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 5: doing the gig and it didn't matter what money they

903
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 5: were offering. She was like, it don't matter because I

904
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 5: ain't no people gonna be there. And she knew that when.

905
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 7: It came to the week of the twenty third, and.

906
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 5: She knew that, I'm not gonna go because I'm not

907
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 5: gonna get my money at the end of the night,

908
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 5: because you're gonna come to me crying about how the

909
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Speaker 5: people didn't show, people didn't pay.

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Speaker 8: So she never I remember that.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I got that.

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Speaker 6: That's what she did for.

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Speaker 1: I never thought of that.

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Speaker 2: I never knew that one could be that strategic with

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Speaker 2: their career time.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm like thirty years right.

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Speaker 10: I told you I'm the manager.

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Speaker 2: How did you balance all that? How did you balance

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Speaker 2: between the management in the music?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: How did you? How did you balance it?

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Speaker 10: I always thought that managers was overpaid for doing something

923
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Speaker 10: that they had to tell you to do when you

924
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 10: already know what you want to do. Why would you

925
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 10: you know, why do I need you to tell me

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Speaker 10: to do this gig?

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Speaker 7: I know if I want to do this gig or not.

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Speaker 5: And they have to bring it to her to finalize it.

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Speaker 5: Enjoys So she's like, if you got to bring it

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Speaker 5: to me to say yes, and I may as well

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Speaker 5: just do it.

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Speaker 11: But we never expounded on your background when it came

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Speaker 11: to business though, because you said you went to college,

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Speaker 11: you made it a bit, you.

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Speaker 8: Didn't go tout.

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Speaker 9: Wait, you can't go to college.

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Speaker 6: So wait. I thought you said you made it, you

938
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Speaker 6: made it in business, but not I.

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Speaker 9: Did in night school, okay, so what.

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Speaker 6: So tell me about that then? So you went to

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Speaker 6: night school to finish your.

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Speaker 10: I got out of that, got out of high school, yeah,

943
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Speaker 10: because my biology teacher sucked.

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Speaker 1: And they were horrible.

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Speaker 9: She was.

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Speaker 10: She said to me one day we were getting You know,

947
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Speaker 10: you do A and B classes the first year you

948
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Speaker 10: do this and then you go to B of the

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Speaker 10: same class, and I would be was a real teacher

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Speaker 10: in biology, and I knew I was gonna fail B.

951
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Speaker 10: And I've been on the un the road and this

952
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 10: old bitch and A would stand up in there and

953
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Speaker 10: talk all day long. And one day I just got

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Speaker 10: pissed and I stood up. I had held my hand

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Speaker 10: up and she would not acknowledge my hand for fifteen minutes,

956
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Speaker 10: and finally I stood up and I informed her. I said, look,

957
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Speaker 10: I have biology too. Next time, missus Samson, don't put okay, now,

958
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Speaker 10: are you gonna tell me this bullshit about when you

959
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Speaker 10: were in the army. I don't give a damn about

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Speaker 10: you being in the army people. I want to know biology.

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Speaker 10: So are you gonna answer my question. I've been trying

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Speaker 10: to ask you about biology or not.

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Speaker 1: She's right there now in this moment, and she.

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Speaker 10: Sent me to the principal. She sent me to the principal,

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Speaker 10: and mister Landorfi said, what did you get last semester?

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Speaker 10: And I told him I'm still on on a roll.

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Speaker 10: He says, well, you're not gonna fail the subject because

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Speaker 10: it was the last semester of the turn, you know.

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Speaker 10: And he said, what other subject would you like to take?

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Speaker 10: He goes, send me to somewhere else, though, I don't

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Speaker 10: have to go back to her class no more, cause

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Speaker 10: if she give me an for the last I'm all

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Speaker 10: ready had the past.

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Speaker 9: Shout out to mister Landelphi.

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Speaker 10: So yes, yes, I says, I don't need biology. I

976
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Speaker 10: don't need to know what's going on here and there

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Speaker 10: with a frog and a dog and a whatever.

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Speaker 1: I want bookkeeping, all right, So there you're having, folks.

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Speaker 2: That's allful Part one, of course, Love Supreme with one

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Speaker 2: and only Millie Jackson and Keisha Jackson come back for

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Speaker 2: Part two, where Millie sings one of her latest songs

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Speaker 2: and Keisha talks about working with outcasts and they share

983
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Speaker 2: an incredible mother dar story that it has to be

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Speaker 2: heard to be believed.

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