1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huts. Giants the 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Giants mobul give me some job part of the Giants 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: Podcast Networks Role. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to another exclusive special edition just on the audio 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: feed of the Giants Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 2: the official bank of the Giants. I'm coming from you 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: to you live from the Hackensack Marine Hell Podcast Studio. 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 3: Keep getting better. 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: I am John Schmelk, So I gotta set the stage here, 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: but this is not going to be your typical Giants 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: Total podcast. So I as you guys noticed, the Giants 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: Life episodes are out and about in the wild Part 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: one and Part two. Abdul Carter is Part one, Jackson 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: Daughter's Part two kind of the scouting process of watching 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: those two players. A lot of good stuff. Make sure 16 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: you guys go check that out. We also talk to 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: the person who put that whole series together with the 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: help of a lot of the people here, Michael Beckton 19 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: on Big Book Kickoff Live on Thursday's episode. 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: Check that out too. 21 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: But you'll see in those two episodes there are interviews 22 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: with Brian Dable and Joe Shape. Only a few sound 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: bites from those interviews made into the episodes. Because you're 24 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: trying to obviously edit it to make sure it makes sense. 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: You want to keep it tight, you want to keep 26 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: it full, want to keep it interesting. But I was 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: happy to help about Michael Becton, our director of cinematography, 28 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 2: who put him together and asked the questions for Coach 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Stable and general manager Joe Shane for those interviews that 30 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 2: went into the show. But we got to the end 31 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: and Michael Beckton emailed me and said, John, we didn't 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: really use a ton of this, would you want it 33 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: for the podcast? And I said absolutely. I want to 34 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: give you guys a chance to really see how this 35 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: goes behind the scenes a little bit. So we'll give 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: you a bus behind the scenes look at Giant's life 37 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: and give you some good information from the general manager 38 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: and the head coach as to the scouting process, the 39 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: entire draft, and how the Giants kind of went through 40 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: the last couple of months. So I'm not on Mike, 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm off Mike. That's why I have a little bit 42 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: of an echo. We're in our television studio as I 43 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: kind of go through the list of questions for the show. 44 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: Is not the usual conversation we have as more of 45 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: a Q and A, but I thought it was still 46 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: worth a fore you guys to hear it. I think 47 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: it's a lot of fun. I think there's a lot 48 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: of good information. So let's get right to it. We're 49 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: gonna eat things off with Giants general manager Joe Shane 50 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: getting interviewed for Giants' Life, the drafting of Abdul Carter 51 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: and Jackson Dart which is on the Giants YouTube channel 52 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 2: right now. 53 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: What would you say was your overall objective slash goal 54 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 4: heading into this offseason? 55 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 5: The objective slash goal going into the offseason was continue to, 56 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 5: you know, build a competitive football team and add as 57 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 5: many good. 58 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 6: Players as possible. And that started in. 59 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 5: You know, free agency with you know, some of the 60 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 5: dbs that we added, some of the guys we had 61 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 5: on the d line with Chauncey and Ledbetter and again 62 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: just trying to upgrade wherever we can. And I've said 63 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 5: it before, you're you're at mercy of what players are 64 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 5: available in a free agency cycle, and it just worked 65 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: out this year that there were some really good players 66 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 5: on the defensive side of the ball that we were 67 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 5: able to acquire. And then in going into the draft, 68 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: you always let your board talk to you, and we 69 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 5: were able to obviously get a really good player at 70 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 5: the top of the first and then throughout the drafts 71 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 5: as the board fell, you know, we're able to get 72 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 5: a quarterback, a really good three tech you, a good 73 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 5: running back, and some other players that will also be 74 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 5: able to help us out. 75 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 3: Oh, you were picking third, so obviously not a ton 76 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: of difference. Things gonna happen ahead of you. 77 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: But how many different scenarios were you prepared for that 78 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 4: could have changed what you might do it three? 79 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, we were prepared for three scenarios. 80 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 5: You know, we knew we were gonna get a good 81 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 5: football player based on the players that we had, and 82 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 5: we were comfortable with whatever happened at one or two. 83 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 5: We were comfortable with whoever's going to be there at three, 84 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: and you know, we were ecstatic to get Abdul Carter 85 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: at three. 86 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: Nice when there's three guys and you're picking. 87 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 5: Third, right, Yeah, it definitely makes it a little bit 88 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 5: easier when you're picking third in terms of your your 89 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 5: options and your scenarios. You know you don't have you 90 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 5: don't have to go through fifteen different scenarios, and you know, 91 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 5: you get three names that you like and you know 92 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 5: you're in good shape. 93 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: This is your fourth drafts is a GM. 94 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 4: Do you still get butterflies morning of because some stuff 95 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: is really still out of your control? Right? 96 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, you always get some butterflies or some you know, 97 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 5: excitement or nervousness, and it's it's because you really don't 98 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 5: know what's gonna happen. Like you, you can do all 99 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 5: the research you want, you can make all the call 100 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: you can listen to media people or you know, look 101 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 5: at mock drafts, and you really don't know who's going 102 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 5: to be there. You don't know what people are talking 103 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 5: about another building. So you do the best to gather 104 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 5: the information you know, prepare yourself, and then you just 105 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 5: let the board talk to you. And you know, the 106 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 5: conversations have already been had, and the process that we 107 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 5: go to leading up to the draft makes draft day, 108 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 5: you know, very easy, regardless of what happens or what 109 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 5: other teams do, because we've had all these conversations already, 110 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 5: and you let the board talk to you. 111 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 4: So there was a trade ahead of you, but did 112 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: wanted to go as you expected heading into. 113 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 5: Draft Light one and two did go as we expected, 114 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 5: and we had caught win probably a week before the 115 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 5: draft that Travis Hunter was going to go number two 116 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 5: and it's probably not to the Cleveland Brown. 117 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 6: So were we positive which team that may be. 118 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 5: No, we didn't know, but had a pretty good idea 119 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 5: who it was based on previous conversations. 120 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: So when on the draft call you hear, you know, 121 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 4: Travis Hunter goes to what was kind of your reaction? 122 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 5: We were fired up when we found out that Hunter 123 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: went number two. Again, we it had been a couple 124 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 5: of weeks building that, you know, we had heard Travis 125 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 5: was gonna go number two, whether it was Cleveland or 126 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 5: somebody else. So you had kind of went through all 127 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: these scenarios with Abdul Carter as your as your potential 128 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 5: pick based on you know, some further research that we 129 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 5: did later in the process, and you know, the Monday 130 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 5: before the draft, when we had had some meetings and 131 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 5: you know, again we came to the conclusion if Abdul 132 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 5: was there, he'd be our guy. So, yeah, I mean, 133 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 5: how could he not be excited about getting that guy? 134 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: You said, those that concends us in the room. In fact, 135 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 4: I think the prescott you said it was an easy pick. 136 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 4: How rare is that? 137 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's rare, but unfortunately that's the that's what 138 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 5: you get when you're picking three. So hopefully we're not 139 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 5: picking up there again. But you know, the way the 140 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 5: draft played out, and you know the type of player 141 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 5: that Abdul is and the fact that we were able 142 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 5: to get him at three and the impact that he 143 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 5: could make on our team, you know, we just you 144 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 5: couldn't pass on a guy like that. 145 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: What was it about Abdul that made it a consensus 146 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: easy pick to make? 147 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, well we didn't. 148 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 5: Everybody wants to know who you take between Travis and Abdul, 149 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 5: and you know, I said all along, We're never gonna 150 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 5: have to make that decision. I think that's going to 151 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: be made for us, so which it was. But Abdul's demeanor, 152 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 5: play style, the toughness, the physicality, just the play speed 153 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: he jumps off the film, and then his ability to 154 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 5: you know, affect the passer, whether it's you know, bending 155 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 5: around the edge or up and under or stunts and games. 156 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 6: There's he's got versatility. 157 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 5: So whether it's on the ball, off the ball, spying 158 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 5: the quarterback, rushing the passer, We'll be able to use 159 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 5: him in a variety of ways. 160 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: All right, Let's talk about the evaluation process for Carter 161 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 4: how valuable. Start with the Combine interview. The first time 162 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 4: you guys kind of get in front of the coaches. 163 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, our first visit with Abdul was at the Combine. 164 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 5: You know, in a seventeen eighteen minute interview. He came 165 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 5: in very serious, all ball, not a lot of small 166 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 5: talk with with Abdul, which I love about that. 167 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 6: We love about him. 168 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 5: And he was very serious, very knowledgeable, understood what they 169 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 5: were asking him to do. And again he's played multiple positions, 170 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 5: so his football IQ, he's got a very good football 171 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 5: IQ because he's played off the ball and then it's 172 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 5: only played on the. 173 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 6: Ball for a year. 174 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 5: So you know, his ability to see the game through 175 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 5: a different prism really came out in that meeting that 176 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: we had with him. 177 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: So he participate in an All Star game, and then 178 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: because the injury, he didn't work out of the Pro Day, 179 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 4: didn't work. 180 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: Out at the Combine. 181 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 4: How of at all does that cloud your valuation certain 182 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: process of a player. 183 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, when a player doesn't work out or you know, 184 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 5: they don't check all the boxes in the spring. From 185 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: from that standpoint, that's where to me our work in 186 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 5: the fall really pays off. 187 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: You know. 188 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 6: I knew he was a good player. Was able to 189 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 6: see him play. 190 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 5: Twice live, so I'd seen him move around, I'd seen 191 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 5: what he looks like physically. I saw him play at 192 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: the Orange Bowl, then I saw him against Ohio State, 193 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 5: so he didn't need to work out or do any 194 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 5: of the gymnastics or any of that stuff. For me, 195 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 5: I was pretty convicted in the player after seeing him 196 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 5: play live and. 197 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: Forgot like that. 198 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: I imagine when it tapes that good, it kind of makes 199 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: the other stuff. 200 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: As long as you don't mess it up. 201 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: I think we're good with you, right, yeah, exactly, And 202 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 5: the tape was really good. But when you see him 203 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 5: in person, to me a lot of time, it's just 204 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 5: it's validation of what you see on film. So when 205 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 5: you can see it with your own eye and see 206 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 5: the impact he has in terms of his get off 207 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 5: and a tackle, trying to get out there and block 208 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 5: him if they single him, if they don't double him, 209 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 5: his play speed, and when you see that live, how 210 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 5: much faster he's moving than the rest of the players 211 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 5: on the field. I mean, it's just impressive and it 212 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 5: leads a lasting impression in your mind. 213 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: All right, let's go back to draft night. 214 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 4: How much going into it did you have a pretty 215 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: good feel? Was it your intention going in that we 216 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 4: are going to trade back into round one? 217 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, going into the night, we knew we were gonna 218 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 5: get a really good player at three, and then we 219 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 5: would see how the draft fell and at a certain 220 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 5: point start making some phone calls to try to get 221 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 5: back up into the first round if there was a 222 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 5: player there that we liked, you know, Jackson Dart ended 223 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 5: up being that player, And once we got into the 224 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 5: mid twenties, we started making some phone calls and you know, 225 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 5: to see if anybody would would be open to move 226 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 5: him back to thirty four. And the goal really was 227 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 5: to make the move and hopefully be able to hold 228 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 5: on to pick sixty five, which we were ultimately able 229 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 5: to do that. 230 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: Obviously, you're weighing things against each other. 231 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: What are the things that you're really taking consideration when 232 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 4: you're debating whether or not to trade up, where to 233 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 4: trade into, and how much you want to give up 234 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: in that move. 235 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, specifically, if it's a quarterback and you're weighing what 236 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 5: do you want to give up to to take the player, 237 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 5: it's a quarterback. So if you're right, you know, a 238 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: lot of times it really doesn't matter what you what 239 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 5: you give up. So probably trying to thread the needle 240 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 5: where hey, we could still get Jackson Dart and have 241 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: as much draft capital as possible to continue to build 242 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 5: the team. So that's what I was constantly weighing with 243 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: my staff, and we were going round and round, and 244 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 5: there was there was really no right answer, like are 245 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 5: we going to be disappointed if if we you know, 246 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 5: thread the needle and he's gone and we could have 247 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 5: give up pick sixty five and had him or so 248 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, just all the research 249 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 5: we did. Pro department does a great job. They put 250 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: together draft books on teams needs and visits and you know, 251 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 5: private workouts and all that stuff. Plus our college staff, 252 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 5: you know, having friends around the league. So we took 253 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 5: all the information we had, and you know, through that 254 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 5: information we were comfortable waiting until you know, we did. 255 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 6: In terms of coming back into the first round. 256 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 4: You kind of references there, what is that process like 257 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: as doing your like information gathering, espionage stuff, trying to 258 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: figure out what. 259 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: This team's thinking, who might trade up in front of you? 260 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: So you can't stay put like that information gathering process 261 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: to mate your opponents to the draft they're gonna do. 262 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: What is that process like for the front office? 263 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really hard because you when you're when you're 264 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 5: trying to come up with what are other teams gonna do? 265 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 5: You you assume everybody has their boards like yours, so 266 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: everybody sees it like you see and that's that's definitely 267 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 5: not the case. So you like a player, you're assuming 268 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 5: everybody else likes them. Or these other teams that say, 269 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 5: with Jackson that were in the market for a quarterback, 270 00:10:58,600 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 5: they they probably like. 271 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 6: Him as much as we do. So but you don't 272 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 6: know that. 273 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 5: So you know you're going through and you can just say, hey, 274 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 5: these teams need if it's a quarterback in Jackson's case, 275 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 5: who all needs a quarterback? Where do we think we 276 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 5: would need to go in order to get up and 277 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: draft him? And you know, getting those conversations are ongoing 278 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 5: and you hear, hey, so and so talk to this team, 279 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 5: or so and so talk to this team. So at 280 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 5: some point you almost get too much information and it 281 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 5: can be proalysis by analysis. So as the draft gets closer, 282 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 5: I really limit, you know, make my inner circle a 283 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 5: little bit smaller, so there's not a lot of voices around, 284 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 5: and you know, getting my leadership to group did a 285 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 5: great job of identifying where they thought the landing point 286 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 5: was or entry point into the first round where you 287 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 5: know we'd be able to get. 288 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 6: Jackson and not give up pick sixty five. 289 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: So you're making all these calls to teams in the 290 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 3: in the twenties. 291 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: I'm sure some teams like we'll call you back, and 292 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: you're waiting when you finally got the firm yes from 293 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 4: a team, what was kind of going through your head? 294 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, leading up to the drafts, it feels like, you know, 295 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 5: there were rumors out there that you know, the Giants 296 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: wanted to move back up into one, and you know 297 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 5: that just all that was going on. So I was 298 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 5: getting calls from every GM from pick eighteen all the 299 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 5: way back. 300 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 6: Just because everybody assumed that we wanted to move up. 301 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 5: So, you know, then then once we get the draft 302 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 5: day and you get into the twenties and now all 303 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 5: of a suddenly there's players there that the general managers 304 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 5: didn't think we're going to be there. So if they 305 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 5: go from, hey, we want to move back, there's not 306 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 5: gonna been in there. We're like, like, now we're not 307 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 5: going to take your deal because we're going to take 308 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 5: our players. So it can it can definitely become stressful 309 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 5: from that standpoint because you thought you'd be able to 310 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 5: get up and now all of a sudden, these teams 311 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 5: are staying and they're not willing to move back. So 312 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 5: that's when it really gets stressful. Like you thought you 313 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 5: were gonna have an opportunity to make a deal for 314 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 5: a week or so, because these teams are clamoring to 315 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: get out of the first round and back into you know, 316 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 5: to thirty four. And then you know, now all suddenly, 317 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 5: you know, the phone's getting hung up, nobody's making a 318 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: deal and you're on to the next team. 319 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: And then when you finally got the yes, what was 320 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: that like? 321 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 6: It was great? It was great. 322 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 5: Like when we got the yes from from Houston, you know, 323 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 5: we were all static we were able to finally finally 324 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 5: get our guy that we had identified, you know, late 325 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: in one that we'd be willing to trade up for, 326 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: you know, a couple that with getting Abdul Carter at 327 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 5: number three. I mean, it was a sense of relief 328 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 5: because it was was pretty stressful in the draft room 329 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 5: there from you know, about twenty ish on until we 330 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 5: were able to finally get a job a deal done 331 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 5: with Houston. So static, offensive coaches were happy, Defensive coaches 332 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 5: were happy, personnel staff was happy. So we left night 333 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 5: one with you know, everybody was happy and slept well. 334 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: Why was Jackson the right guy to trade up for 335 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: twenty five? 336 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: Jackson was the guy at twenty five because he checks 337 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 5: a lot, checked a lot of the boxes throughout our process. 338 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: You know, obviously we we got to see him several 339 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 5: times in the fall. 340 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 6: You know, you get to see. 341 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: The attitude in which he plays with, the poise, the 342 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 5: competitiveness he has, the physical attributes he's athletic. And then 343 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 5: as you continue on, he showed up in the Senior Bowl. 344 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 5: He competed there, played well. We actually had some coaches 345 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 5: down there that were we're able to coach him. 346 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 6: You know, that's the first time we can get. 347 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 5: A chance to interview these guys, and you know, he 348 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: did a really good job and checked all the boxes 349 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 5: through that process. 350 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 6: Fast forward to the Combine. 351 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 5: You know, he through there, did a good job there, 352 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: and I'm I'm I'm all for guys if they don't 353 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 5: want to throw out the combine, especially the quarterback position. 354 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 5: I'm okay with it, just because the you know, the 355 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 5: difference in skill sets. You know what you're throwing with 356 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 5: guys you've never thrown to before. Some are tall and slow, 357 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 5: some are short and quick. So you know you're throwing 358 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: to the first first time you've ever thrown to a 359 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 5: guy and getting evaluated. So he showed up, he competed, 360 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: he threw there, and then you know, throughout the spring 361 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 5: process or our private workout with him to visit and 362 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: his pro day, he just he did a really good job. 363 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 6: There was a really good. 364 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 5: Mesh with the staff and again the collaboration between the 365 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: personnel staff and the coaching staff. You know, again, at 366 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: the end of the day, you know, we just felt 367 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 5: he was like the best fit for you know, the New. 368 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: York Giants four quarterbacks specifically, how im board is the 369 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: exposure at the Senior Bowl and seeing them in person 370 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: on the field throwing and playing. 371 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 6: In that environment. 372 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's always important, especially the quarterback position, any 373 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 5: of these players. The more exposures you can get to 374 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 5: them and the more you see them move around, the 375 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: more convicted you're going to be. Again, it's just confirmation. 376 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: You keep confirming what you think throughout the process. So 377 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 5: the Fall film, then the Senior Bowl, then the Pro Day, 378 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 5: the private whatever it may be. The other important part 379 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: about the Senior Bowl is day ball. Kafkachee. Those guys 380 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 5: aren't on the road on the road in the fall, 381 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 5: so they can't go watch a game where they have 382 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: they've never seen these guys throw. So you can watch 383 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: the film and then you can go to Mobile and 384 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 5: you can actually be around the kids and see how 385 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 5: they interact, see how they throw the ball, how they 386 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 5: react adversity, and. 387 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 6: Whatever it may be. 388 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: So to have the coaches down there who are a 389 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 5: big part of our process, to be around the kids 390 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: and see and perform, you know, it's a very important 391 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 5: part of our process. 392 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 3: All right, I'm just going to go through the guys 393 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: you pick. 394 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: Just give me a little snapshot thumb now on each 395 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: guy's Darius Alexander. 396 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 5: Darius Alexander's a guy that was on a radar early 397 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 5: in the season. Brandon Profford, our Area scout, did a 398 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 5: good job identifying him early on as a you know, 399 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 5: a three technique that you know can play the run 400 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 5: and also rush the passer and another guy that played 401 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 5: at the Senior Bowl from our draft class that showed 402 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 5: up and he elevated his game versus better competition. Again, 403 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 5: he played in the MAC and played well in the MAC, 404 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 5: but there wasn't a lot of snaps where he was 405 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 5: playing against draftaball talent. So when he got to the 406 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 5: Senior Bowl, he elevated his game. He showed pass for us, 407 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 5: he showed the ability to stop the run, had a 408 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 5: really good interview for us. So you know with the 409 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 5: D line that we already have to add a three 410 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 5: technique that can play three downs next to Dexter Lawrence. 411 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 5: You know, that's something that we've been looking for for 412 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 5: a couple of years now. And to get him at 413 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 5: pick sixty five, you know, we weren't sure that he 414 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 5: would be there, but to me, it was really good 415 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: value where we were. 416 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 6: Able to land him. 417 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: Cam Scataboo. 418 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 5: Camp Scattaboo again, another player that you know scouting throughout 419 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 5: the fall. You just you fell in love with the toughness, 420 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 5: the competitiveness, the way he plays the game, the passion. 421 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 6: He can do it all on the football field. 422 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 5: You see him throwing passes, you see him catching the ball. 423 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 5: You see him runing inside, you see him running outside, 424 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: and just a very consistent, productive, tough, hard nosed football 425 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: player that you know was probably a staff favorite at 426 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 5: the end of the day, you know, personnel staff and 427 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 5: coaching staff. So again to get him a pick one 428 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: oh five, like, we were fired up. That was one 429 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 5: of those Friday night you know, you can't sleep, you know, 430 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 5: because you think he might have a chance at this kid, 431 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 5: and you have the third pick and you're not sure 432 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 5: somebody's gonna trade up. But we were fired up to 433 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 5: get him on on Saturday morning. 434 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 3: And then Marcus Bow still day when you pick it 435 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: the next round. 436 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, Marcus Bow another player that we had exposure to 437 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 5: at the Senior Bowl. He had a good week down there. 438 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 5: What stands out with Marcus's his athleticism in his feet. 439 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: You know, it's hard to find guys with the type 440 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: of lateral quickness the way he runs, the agility out 441 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 5: in space. And then you couple that, you know with 442 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 5: the finish. You know he plays snap the whistle. You'll 443 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 5: see him finishing guys to the ground. You'll see him 444 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 5: finishing guys downfield. So the combination of athleticism, toughness, competes 445 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 5: finish and then also a smart kid that has position, 446 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 5: flex and versatility to play tackle guard. You know, some 447 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: of our guys we even talked about down the road 448 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 5: maybe a developmental center just because of the high football 449 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: IQ that he possesses. Thomas Faedoni, he's a jack of 450 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 5: all man. He can do everything. He can catch the ball, 451 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: he can run routes, he can play in line, he 452 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 5: can play the y. He's tough, he's competitive, and you know, 453 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 5: again it's hard to find, you know, three down type 454 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: tight ends, especially in the seventh round, so we're a 455 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 5: little surprised. 456 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 6: He was there when we were able to get him. 457 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 5: But again, he's got the football makeup that we look 458 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 5: for and he can play three downs. 459 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: And finally, Corey Black. 460 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, Corey Black. Good job by the scouts identifying Corey. 461 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 5: You know, non combine guy that you know, we brought 462 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 5: in on a thirty visit and got to know him 463 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 5: pretty well. And six foot two hundred, ran four to three. 464 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: He's tough and. 465 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 6: You know, a lot of times he's laid around guys. 466 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 5: Their path to the roster, especially the way it's constructed 467 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 5: right now, will be on special teams and he's demonstrated 468 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 5: the ability to play on special teams, and you know 469 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 5: that's what he'll be competing for, an opportunity to go 470 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: to the game and get a uniform as a special 471 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 5: teamer while developing as a as a corner. 472 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: Final question, what's next now for you and your staff? 473 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: The draft picks are here, you know, and you've worked 474 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: on the UDFA class. 475 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: What's next for you and your staff? 476 00:18:59,520 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? 477 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 5: So for my staff and I, now that the draft's over, 478 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 5: we will turn the page and start looking towards the 479 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 5: twenty twenty six draft. So it's the roster construction never stops, 480 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: you know, the Pro department, we'll say, hey, here's here's 481 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 5: some positions where you know we could still upgrade. 482 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 6: If there's cap casualties or. 483 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 5: Post June one cuts, well, we'll be looking at those guys. 484 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 5: And then you know, we'll be looking at the twenty 485 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 5: twenty sixth draft and the landscape of that. 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I especially love 494 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: the stuff on the trade, which is something Paul Datino 495 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: I did not have a chance to talk to Joe 496 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 2: about in our post draft interview session that you can 497 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: go back and find with the Giant YouTube channel as well. 498 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: But I thought the stuff on the trade and how 499 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: that works and trying to figure out when to move up, 500 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: should you move up? Do you have to move up? 501 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: And I thought it was really fascinating. I hope you 502 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: guys really enjoy that whole interview, but especially that part. 503 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 2: I thought that was especially fascinating. All right, let's get 504 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 2: to Brian Dable, head coach of the New York Football Giants. 505 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: Heavily evolved in the draft process, especially when it comes 506 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 2: to drafting a quarterback like Jackson Dart, but obviously, you know, 507 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: really into it with all positions. He runs the whole 508 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: team and of course the third overall pick at dual 509 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: quarter and then everything else the Giants did in the 510 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 2: draft as well. So, without further ado, here's Mike Q 511 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: and a with Giants head coach Brian Dable that was 512 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: used for the Giants' Life documentary series. 513 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 4: Right, coach, what would you say was your biggest objective 514 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 4: or goal heading into this offseason as the Giants head coach. 515 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, the biggest objective for us going to the offseason 516 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 7: is trying to improve our roster really at every position. 517 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 7: So I think that Joe and the scouting staff along 518 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 7: with the coaches, did an excellent job and their evaluations 519 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 7: and then had a good line of communication on the 520 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 7: guys the type of guys we wanted. 521 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 3: To bring in. 522 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 7: And you know, it's been a productive offseason. Now, you know, 523 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 7: that's all fine and dandy, but now we got to 524 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 7: go on to grass and come together as a team 525 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 7: and build our foundation. 526 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 4: The scouting staff is doing this all ye around, But 527 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: for you and your coaches, when does the college evaluation 528 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 4: process start? 529 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 7: Yeah, the college evaluation starts, you know, basically when the 530 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 7: Senior Bowl hits. I've gone down. 531 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 3: There every year. 532 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 7: When I was able to go down there and get 533 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 7: a feel for some of these guys that are coming out, 534 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of work that we need 535 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 7: to do as a coaching staff. You're never going to 536 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 7: fully catch up to where the scouts are. That's what 537 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 7: they do all year round. But again, they have a 538 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 7: lot of good information they provide with us. And now 539 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 7: it's really you know, getting into the tape, evaluating the 540 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 7: skill set of the player. Then throughout the zooms, the 541 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 7: thirty visits, the combines, get to know the player. 542 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: You've been through a lot of drafts as a head coach, 543 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: you still get nerves and butterflies heading into it because 544 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: you really don't control everything. 545 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, look, the draft, you'd go through mock drafts and 546 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 7: regards to your draft room, and if this team drafts 547 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 7: this person and these people are left, who you would take? 548 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 7: And you know there's a lot of i'd say scenarios 549 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 7: that are played out before the draft, and you know, 550 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 7: you feel pretty good going into it, particularly in the 551 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 7: early rounds of you know, a select group of players 552 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 7: that you really covet and you know it worked out 553 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 7: for us. 554 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: Did the first two picks go as you expected with 555 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: Tennessee and Cleveland. 556 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 3: Well there was a trade. 557 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 7: There was a trade there, and you know Cam we 558 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 7: did an extensive amount of work on him. He's an 559 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 7: exceptionally talented player and as his Travis, and you know, 560 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 7: we're thrilled to have Abdul. You know, he was a 561 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 7: player that you know, we thought very highly of. 562 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: Describe the feeling when you heard that the trade up happened, 563 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: Hunter got taken and that Carter was going to be 564 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 4: available to you. Yeah. 565 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 7: Again, I had, you know, an opportunity to evaluate him, 566 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 7: I'd say two years worth of it when he played 567 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 7: off the line and then on the line when he 568 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 7: went down and it was a pass rusher. And you know, 569 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 7: had a good visit with him during my my daughter's 570 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 7: parents weekend, had a nice breakfast, really just got to 571 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 7: know him even more. He came up on the thirty 572 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 7: and you know when he was when he was there 573 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 7: for us, I think everybody in the room was was 574 00:22:59,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 7: very excited. 575 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 4: What's special about him that made him the right player 576 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: for you guys at three? 577 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 7: Well, Abduel is a great person that loves the game 578 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 7: of football and has a high i'd say. 579 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 6: Competitiveness to him. 580 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 7: He's tough, he has a skill set to rush the passer, 581 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 7: but he's done a lot of other things in his 582 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 7: career too, so he's flexible. He's smart, he's got a 583 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 7: great dog mentality, tough, you know, and that's you know, 584 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 7: try to the theme of of our draft and really 585 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 7: of our off season is toughness that we try to 586 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 7: bring in. 587 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 4: What was the evaluation process like with him going from 588 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 4: the film work and then specifically how valuable was the 589 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: interview at the Combine? 590 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 7: Well, the Combine interviews are always valuable. They're they're very 591 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 7: short though, so I don't think you put too much 592 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 7: into him. 593 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 6: It's really to get to know the player. And some 594 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 6: some positions you. 595 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 7: Do a little bit more work than others in terms 596 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 7: of board work and. 597 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: Things like that. 598 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 7: But we know we did a lot of work on 599 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 7: Abdul very strongly about him, both his skill set and 600 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 7: the type of person he is. 601 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 4: In one way or at all. If a player can 602 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: work at the Combine artist pro day like a duel 603 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 4: because of the injury, how does that impact or make 604 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 4: your evaluation more challenging? 605 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 7: The Combine is just part of the process. So there's 606 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of other touch points that 607 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 7: you have with players, and we try to use as 608 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 7: many as we can to get to know the player 609 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 7: on a personal level. And then also, you know, the 610 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 7: tape is really what stands out for all of the players. 611 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 7: But you know, it's got to be a good mix 612 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 7: of he's what you're looking for on the field, and 613 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 7: then he's also what you're looking for off the field. 614 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: Another part of the process of the thirty visits. 615 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: Explain the fans what the thirty visits are and how 616 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 4: they help aid your evaluation process. 617 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, the thirty visits are when a college player comes 618 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 7: to your facility and you know, you set up appointments 619 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 7: which each area of our of our building, media relations, 620 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 7: position coaches, coordinators, assistant GM personnel people, GM head coach. 621 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 7: You get as many people around that player as you 622 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 7: can to get a feel for. 623 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: Or for how that player is. 624 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 7: And then you're also doing some board work and meeting 625 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 7: and teaching and seeing if they can. 626 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 6: Give it back to you. 627 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 7: So they're very helpful. 628 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: The assistant coaches play a role in that too, Right, 629 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 4: How does your staff contribute and how did they aid 630 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 4: your evaluation process of these guys. 631 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, our assistant coaches do a lot of work. You know, 632 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 7: I give those guys a lot of credit for the 633 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 7: time they put into it. It's you know, you have 634 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 7: to evaluate your scheme and things like that. But until 635 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 7: you until you get your team and the players you 636 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 7: you know, think you're going to have for a year, 637 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 7: and then you've got to build a scheme off of that. 638 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 7: But you know, those guys have have been on the road. 639 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 7: There's private workouts, they go to pro days, they do 640 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 7: a number of zooms to get to know the player, 641 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 7: and they put you know, they spend a lot of 642 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 7: time in the off season leading up to free agency 643 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 7: and the draft of the evaluation process. 644 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 4: Specifically, how did Charlie and his interactions with that du 645 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: will help your evaluation of him. 646 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 7: Just like all so just like all the coaches, you know, 647 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 7: everybody has a you know, people that they have to 648 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 7: evaluate and zoom with and meet with and give their 649 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 7: input ont the you know, i'd say the collective, the 650 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 7: head coach, the general manager, the scouts. You know, we 651 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 7: have a very collaborative process and you know, the position 652 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 7: coaches along with the coordinator are are a big part 653 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 7: of that. 654 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 4: Joe was able to trade back in you had two 655 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: first round picks of what made Jackson dark special that 656 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: you moved the draft cap and you had to to 657 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: move up the draft. 658 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, we thought Jackson was was the right fit for 659 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 7: us that at that part of the draft. We did 660 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 7: an extensive amount of work on him. We had a 661 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 7: pro day where some of the people in our building 662 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 7: went to the pro day, we had a private workout, 663 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 7: we had them up on a thirty. You know, we've 664 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 7: had them to We've been to multiple dinners with them. 665 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 7: You know, we have you know a lot of things 666 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 7: that we do with with all the players, but in 667 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 7: particularly i'd say the quarterbacks where we have a you know, 668 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 7: extensive process and you know, he fit what we were 669 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 7: looking for. 670 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: You mentioned how the process starts for you at the 671 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl. Jackson was at the Senior Bowl. Was that 672 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: the first time you got to meet with him? 673 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 3: And what was that like? 674 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was you know, meeting with Jackson at the 675 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 7: Senior Bowl. That was my first initial touch point with 676 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 7: him and we were able to sit down and you know, 677 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 7: talk a little bit of football and watch him practice 678 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 7: and see how he interacts with with some of the 679 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 7: new teammates that he had there. And again for me, 680 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 7: that was the first time I was very very far 681 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 7: behind relative to where Joe and his staff was and 682 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 7: it was a good initial meeting and you. 683 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 4: Also got to see him on field. In person for 684 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 4: the first time. How much does a performance on the 685 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: field that be like that do for you as a coach. 686 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, again, with with the Senior Bowl or with the combine, 687 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 7: they're just they're just part of the evaluation. So there's 688 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 7: there's a lot of little touch points that you have 689 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 7: with these players, and you know, you put everything together, 690 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 7: you talk about the fit, and you know everybody has 691 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 7: their thoughts and evaluations of that particular player. It's it's 692 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 7: it's certainly part of the process. It's not the entire process. 693 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: It is good when you're able to go down to 694 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 7: the scene your bowl and watch these players perform and 695 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 7: you know, throw or or run or cover or pass 696 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 7: rush because you're you're trying to see what they are 697 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 7: against some some very other good players. 698 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 3: He was also your first thirty visit, he had his 699 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 3: Pro day. 700 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 4: What role did those events and other touchpoints with them 701 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: along the way aid in the evaluation process? 702 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: Sure? 703 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 7: The Pro day and and the thirty visit, the private again, 704 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 7: all those are are part of the process. I wouldn't 705 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 7: say one is more important than the other, but they 706 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 7: all collectively. Once you know, you go through all the 707 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 7: different things that you do with these players leading up 708 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 7: to the draft. You know, those those touch points, those evaluations, 709 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 7: those meetings, those led us to you know, to picking Jackson. 710 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: All right now, I'm gonna rap it far through the 711 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 3: rest of the class. So I'll just give you the name. 712 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: Give me like a little thumbnail on each guy. Let's 713 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 3: go Darius Alexander first. 714 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 7: Darius Alexander big Long has pass rush ability and the 715 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 7: interior power of the pocket. You know, he's a he's 716 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 7: a productive player inside that has traits that that Andre 717 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 7: Patterson and Brian Cox, you know, really like. And you know, 718 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 7: i'd say the scouts, the coaches all were aligned on 719 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 7: that pickab Camp Scataboo was here on a thirty visit. 720 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 7: Very productive player in college, both in the run game 721 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 7: the past game. He has a great contact balance, runs 722 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 7: with a style that we want, you know, it's he's 723 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 7: a fun guy to watch. He's a fun guy to 724 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 7: evaluate be around. He was smart in the meetings. Another 725 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 7: pick that everybody was was very happy about when we 726 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 7: selected him and look forward to working with him. He's 727 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 7: he's our type of guy. Marcus bow Yeah, Bo, He's athletic, 728 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 7: he can play I'd say multiple positions, but He's got 729 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 7: very very good feet. He can get to the second level. 730 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 7: He can get out on space, on screens and on 731 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 7: toss cracks and get his hat on people because of 732 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 7: his athleticism, has an ability to recover, has good feet. 733 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 6: Look forward to working with him again. 734 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 7: The process just led us to these players that were 735 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 7: there on the board, and you know, we're happy to 736 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 7: work with these guys. 737 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 738 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 7: So so Thomas Faedoni was a player that Tim Kelly, 739 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 7: our tight end coach, went out and had a private 740 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 7: workout with. You know, he's got the ability to block 741 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 7: and also catch, so you know that's something that we 742 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 7: look for in our tight ends, the ability to do 743 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 7: both so you can put maximum straining on the defense. 744 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 7: And you know, to get him where we got him. 745 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 7: A player that we looked forward to developing. Black Corey 746 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 7: Black got good size, good speed, a big corner. I 747 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 7: think he does a good job playing press, has some 748 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 7: instincts and another young player that you know, where we 749 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 7: got him was was a good pick for us and 750 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 7: someone that we look forward to developing. 751 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: You mentioned earlier. 752 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 4: Now the guys you here time people in the field, 753 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 4: right and actually get the guys working out a little 754 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: bit what is this time of the offseason light for 755 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: you and your coaches when the guys are just getting 756 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: back in the building. 757 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, when the players come back in the building, that's 758 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 7: you know, that's what you like as a coach. You're 759 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 7: able to go out there and have some short meetings 760 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 7: with these guys, and soon we'll be into phase two 761 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 7: and Phase three, which we practices and you know, laying 762 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 7: our foundation of what we wanted to look like and 763 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 7: how we want to play and things we can improve 764 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 7: on from last year, both as a coaching staff and 765 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 7: as players, and really just start to formulate your team. 766 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 7: You know. That's that's the initial phases. So got a 767 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 7: long way to go, but this is an important time 768 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 7: of year for us. 769 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: We thank Brian, We thank Joe for giving us the time. 770 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: They were fantastic, great stuff there, folks. I hope you 771 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: guys got something out of it. I know I did. 772 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 2: It was really fun doing it, and hopefully this Giants 773 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: draft and we look back at the three years, we're 774 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: just as excited about it as you are right now. 775 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 2: But it short seems like they got a ton of 776 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: value with a lot of these selections this year's draft class. 777 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 3: So excited to. 778 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: See how the guys do Rookie minicamp come in your way. 779 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: Then they'll be involved in OTA's practice all that good stuff, 780 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: so make sure you go check that out. I am 781 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: John Schmelk. 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