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Speaker 1: What's Good command His Family? Brian Coop with Junior here

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Speaker 1: and this is the Next Man Up Podcast. We talk

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Speaker 1: to your favorite Commanders players, not so much about exits

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Speaker 1: and knows more about the man behind the helmet. And

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Speaker 1: our next man up is no other than our second

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Speaker 1: year safety Percy Butler.

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Speaker 2: Percy talks about glowing up.

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Speaker 1: In Louisiana, what eating squirrel and raccoon is like, losing

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Speaker 1: loved ones and having survivor's remorse, and also what the

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Speaker 1: moment was like when he got drafted to the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 2: Great conversation with his young brother. All that and more

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Speaker 2: starts right now. What's Good Commander Family? This is the

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Speaker 2: Next Man Up Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Colbert and I am here to talk to

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Speaker 1: your favorite Commanders players. We don't talk so much exits

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Speaker 1: and nose. We talk more about the man behind the helmet.

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Speaker 1: And our next man up is no other than our

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Speaker 1: second year safety Percy Butler Percy.

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Speaker 2: How you doing today, brother? Doing good? Doing good? Man.

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Speaker 2: We're happy to have you. We know you busy man.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep you too long, but like I said, man,

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Speaker 1: we don't really want to talk too much football with you. Man,

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about the man behind the helmet,

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Speaker 1: who you are as a person.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. Oh yeah, that's cool. All right, man, Let's

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Speaker 2: talk about Louisiana. Man. Where you from your hometown? Man,

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Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit of what that means

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Speaker 2: to you. I'm from Plaquemuel, Louisiana. It's a small city.

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Speaker 2: It's like probably five to six thousand people, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it's like growing up there, it just gives you

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Speaker 2: a different mindset of Brian Mitchell. It's crazy, like we

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Speaker 2: had the same like well when I well, at first,

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Speaker 2: I started off. At first, I was a baseball player

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Speaker 2: for real, wow. And then I started, like I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 2: I started like really like started liking football, like eleventh

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Speaker 2: grade when I seen TDD Harrison went to LSU. I

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Speaker 2: seen him. He went to like under all American and

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Speaker 2: all that. So I'm like, he could do it. I

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Speaker 2: know I could do it. So I started getting into

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Speaker 2: cajun U Lafayette camp. Got my first offer after the camp,

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Speaker 2: so I was like, yeah, football, what I'm gonna do. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Completely stopped playing baseball and Brian Mitchell, well, like I

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Speaker 2: mentioned him. He we went to the same high school. Wow,

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Speaker 2: to the same college and got drafted to the same

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Speaker 2: NFL team. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So did you have any like conversations with with Brian

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Speaker 1: like leading up like in your childhood and your youth,

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Speaker 1: like leading up to all this stuff or did it

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Speaker 1: kind of just all work out like that?

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Speaker 2: Not really? But last Thanksgiving I ate at Brian mitchell

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Speaker 2: house though. Wow, Like when I when I think I

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Speaker 2: checked in one term with them while I was at

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Speaker 2: u EL and then when I got here, it's like

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Speaker 2: we've been We communicated a lot. That's dope. I spent

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Speaker 2: a lot of time Ryan Mitchell as well. Man, it's

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Speaker 2: a really good dude.

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Speaker 1: We work together on the Game Day show, and these

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Speaker 1: Louisiana brothers, Man, they stick together and they're tight. It's

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Speaker 1: like I'll walk around with him sometimes and like a

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know that y'all can see that y'all

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Speaker 1: from Louisiana. Man, how cool is that having that bond

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Speaker 1: with like your hometown.

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Speaker 2: Almost Definitely it's cool, you know, like you could just

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Speaker 2: tell somebody from Louisian how they talk, how they walk, lingos,

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Speaker 2: you know, a certain course, certain words that they say. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's you know, that's cool because it's like we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we might be from the boot, but we all over. Now,

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Speaker 1: I've never met a brother from Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: That couldn't cook. So can you cook? Can you throw

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Speaker 2: down a little bit? Yeah, most definitely I'll be cooking. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know Louisiana, we smother everything. You know.

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Speaker 2: That's how I like mother squirrel all that. You know.

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Speaker 2: So you've had some other squirrel before? Oh? Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I ain't never cook it though, but my one of

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Speaker 2: though he do. He do a lot of the honey.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you had to explain what squirrel tastes like?

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Speaker 2: Like? What is that? What's the consistency of squirrel? Uh?

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Speaker 2: You ever had a rabbit? Never that can't say I've

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Speaker 2: the wildest thing you ever ate? Like?

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Speaker 1: When you tell people and they're like, wow, you ate that,

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Speaker 2: For certain people. Well, I see certain people would think

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Speaker 1: It ain't dangerous eating raccoon. Man with like this, like

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, well, coons that we hunt and

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Speaker 2: eat that, yeah, right right, But these coons on straight

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Speaker 2: you know, wild food, you know. Wow. And so you

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Speaker 2: be hunding. Uh, I'll be hungding a little. I mostly

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Speaker 2: do the fishing, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's it's so crazy because all you guys are very

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Speaker 2: So let's let's get back to football a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You said when you got that first offer, you were like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm done with baseball.

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Speaker 2: I'm about to play football.

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Speaker 1: Was that when you really realized, like, yo, I could

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Speaker 2: That's when I started taking it like one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeris you know, because at first I was finna stop

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Speaker 2: not the animals you know swollen. Yeah, it was like

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Speaker 2: get a job at the track and supply. Wow. Dad,

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Speaker 2: it was like, nah, just get these grades and make

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Speaker 2: sure you can get some dog food. Wow. Bless me

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Speaker 2: right there? Wow? Man?

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Speaker 1: And how big have your parents been in this process,

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Speaker 1: in this journey of your life? He's still very young. Man, Man,

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Speaker 1: you've made it very far at a young age. How

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Speaker 2: For show? They've been big, you know, always supporting me,

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Speaker 2: feel like they're a big reason that I've made it

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Speaker 2: I feel like, how well growing up and plagued me,

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Speaker 2: Like if you ain't really got no support system, and

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Speaker 2: you ain't got nobody behind you. It's easy to get lost,

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Speaker 2: if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when you say get lost, man, elaborate on

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Speaker 2: When you say get lost. They got a lot of

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Speaker 2: ain't gonna hie it, you know, like I wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. And you know, when you're young, you get

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Speaker 2: interested in stead, yeah, you know, And like my pops,

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Speaker 2: seeing him going to work every day, you know, really

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Speaker 2: used to work seven days a week, take one day

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Speaker 2: like real life. And then like I seen him do that,

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Speaker 2: so I'm like, yeah, that's how you be a man.

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Speaker 1: So your pop set that example for you and all that. Man,

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Speaker 1: what is watching your pops go through these different things

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Speaker 2: Like? How has that affected you as a man? I'm

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Speaker 2: you know, because you know how you stick, you know,

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Speaker 2: try a lot of stuff. My people, you know, don't

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Speaker 2: know that I did, you know. So it's like with him,

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Speaker 2: me like my mom and my grandma and be like,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it, just don't do that. He gonna

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Speaker 2: straight up tell you that was stupid. Yeah, you don't

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Speaker 2: need to be doing that. Yeah. I feel like having

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Speaker 2: you know, like through everything, I feel like that just

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Speaker 2: I love hearing that about dads.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like dads get enough credit, man, So

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Speaker 1: I love when y'all pull up here, y'all talk about

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Speaker 1: y'all dads and a lot of brothers that have been

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Speaker 1: like their neighborhoods didn't even let them get into nothing,

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Speaker 1: Like they said that their community itself kept them out

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Speaker 2: Did you see that as well?

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Speaker 1: Like when people started realizing like, oh, you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Like uh my bigger cousin, Todd,

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Speaker 2: he he always made so like he'll tell me like boom,

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Speaker 2: Like that's something I always, you know, take pride in,

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Speaker 2: like not having no yes man's around me, like people

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Speaker 2: who really gonna really like if I do something, they

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Speaker 2: gonna check that. You know what I'm saying, because I

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Speaker 2: checked them if I if they do something I own.

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Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying. I feel like no

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Speaker 2: matter how hire you up, like how much money or

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Speaker 2: all that, that really don't matter. You know, we still

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Speaker 2: on the same level we brothers, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like you should if you feel like

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Speaker 2: I did something that wouldn't like principles to like being

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Speaker 2: a man, you know, let me know, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. Yeah, And did that support system and like

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Speaker 2: love you not only got for your familys community that

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Speaker 2: make you want to stay in Louisiana and go to

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Speaker 2: school out there. Like what went into that decision to

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Speaker 2: stay close to home and go to college out there?

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Speaker 2: So staying the home. So it's like I was either

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Speaker 2: gonna go to Colorado State. I was going to go

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Speaker 2: you know, And it was like going to Colorado, my folks,

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Speaker 2: I'm hour away at Louisiana Lafayette. Yeah, Colorado. I hopped

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Speaker 2: Man, how do you cope with that? Man?

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Speaker 1: How have you found ways to continue about your day

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Speaker 2: I've just been talking to a lot of people. You

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Speaker 1: first thing I did? I just ran up on my

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Speaker 1: mom gave a big hud wow show yeah what your

430
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Speaker 1: mom say to you?

431
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Speaker 2: Man? She was just smiling, just screaming, Oh yeah, the

432
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Speaker 2: dog we got a little pooter? Was my mom got

433
00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,760
Speaker 2: a little pooter. He just barking away. You don't know

434
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Speaker 2: what everybody's screaming for. He just barking.

435
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Speaker 1: And then you were able to embrace all your family

436
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Speaker 1: and all that. Man, is that a moment right there

437
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Speaker 1: where you're like, Okay, I made it? Or is it

438
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Speaker 1: like now the job starts, Like now the real work begins.

439
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Speaker 2: It was a start for me. I'm thinking, like it

440
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:06,840
Speaker 2: just the start.

441
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Speaker 1: Did you have any idea that you would be ended

442
00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:10,800
Speaker 1: up out here that they would draft? Did you have

443
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Speaker 1: any clue?

444
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Speaker 2: Uh? Coach Nate he had, Actually he we had did

445
00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,200
Speaker 2: a zoom call. Oh okay, probably a week before the draft.

446
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,440
Speaker 2: So it's like he was asking me all these questions

447
00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,760
Speaker 2: and I'm answering boom boom. So it's like, I ain't

448
00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,080
Speaker 2: really like this Washington. They showed interest, but they ain't

449
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,679
Speaker 2: show interest like some other Like I thought I was

450
00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,560
Speaker 2: gonna go to three other teams. They were showing a

451
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,000
Speaker 2: lot more interested in Washington, you know, So it really

452
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Speaker 2: surprised me when when when I got the call and

453
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Speaker 2: I realized what team it was, I was really surprised.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because everybody that sat in the chair said

455
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Speaker 1: the same thing, that they had no idea that Washington

456
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Speaker 1: was gonna draft. So that's so interesting to me because

457
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Speaker 1: you always assume that you guys got like some type

458
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Speaker 1: of England and like, I'm gonna.

459
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Speaker 2: Get this call.

460
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Speaker 1: So you have your rookie year and you and you

461
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Speaker 1: impressed me and you turn hands man, the coaching staff

462
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:54,840
Speaker 1: liked you.

463
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Speaker 2: People like you. What was that like for you, though? Man?

464
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Speaker 1: What was it like you getting through that first year

465
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Speaker 1: and like trying to go through these growing pains of

466
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Speaker 1: being a rookie.

467
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Speaker 2: The first year. I ain't gonna lie. The first rookie

468
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,960
Speaker 2: year really was the longest year of my life. Wow. Yeah,

469
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 2: the longest year because it's like you because we had

470
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 2: a late bowl game, so it's like someone right out

471
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040
Speaker 2: of the bowl game, I had probably a week off

472
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 2: and y'all wanted to Oh yeah, y'all wanted to win.

473
00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 2: Straight the training and then I had the funeral I

474
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 2: went to. Then I then it was like boom Combine,

475
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Speaker 2: then this draft. Then you're right back here for rookie

476
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Speaker 2: Minnie camp. Two ways come up. So it was really

477
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Speaker 2: long and it was it was really like a good

478
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Speaker 2: learning experience. You know. I had some good vessel around me,

479
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 2: k fulling them. They always helping out Cam Bobby. It

480
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,439
Speaker 2: was really helping me a lot. Defoe, Yeah, it was

481
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 2: really helping me a lot. So I feel like it

482
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Speaker 2: was a good learning experience, you know, and understanding, Like

483
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Speaker 2: it was able for me to understand like how the

484
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Speaker 2: league is.

485
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Speaker 1: And last year during your rookie season and you had

486
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Speaker 1: a cool moment. I don't know if you remember this,

487
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: so you probably do because it was like kind of

488
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 1: viral you playing the packets. Yeah, it's the end of

489
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Speaker 1: the game. And I don't know how this happens. Maybe

490
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 1: you could explain this how this happens. But you found

491
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Speaker 1: a fat and you got a cheesehead from the fed

492
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Speaker 1: Or package cheese and anybody of those cheese.

493
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Speaker 2: Talk to us about that and how that happened and

494
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Speaker 2: what made you want to do that. What's crazy about

495
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 2: that situe? I still got the cheese head at my house.

496
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got it. I should have asked you. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 2: when I when I when I get a crib and

498
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Speaker 2: put it in a little case. Yeah, so like how

499
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 2: that went is right right after the last snap when

500
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,120
Speaker 2: we went when the clock is zero, I just ran

501
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Speaker 2: to the stands, took off the gloves, gave it to

502
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Speaker 2: a fan like I want the cheese head? Oh yeah,

503
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Speaker 2: did you always have your eyes? Like? What made you

504
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 2: want the cheese? Said? You just see it dirty gaming?

505
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Speaker 2: Like those are fly I seen a couple of them.

506
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Speaker 2: It had I forgot what else it was. It had

507
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Speaker 2: one thing that I really wanted. But I think when

508
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Speaker 2: they seen that the fan, when they realized they was

509
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Speaker 2: going to lose the game for the Packers, they hurry

510
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Speaker 2: up and got on out of there. And then then

511
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Speaker 2: I looked at the section was I forgot what it

512
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 2: was that I really wanted. I looked in that section.

513
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Speaker 2: I know, I looked in that section and I've seen something.

514
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Speaker 2: Woman she was like right at the bottom and she

515
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,240
Speaker 2: was still cheering, you know, so I'm like, oh, she

516
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 2: in a good move. Let me go ahead, let me

517
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: let me go ask her. And she hooked you up

518
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,360
Speaker 2: and you gave her a glove. Oh yeah, I gave

519
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Speaker 2: her a glove. That's so cool man.

520
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Speaker 1: Well, clearly you had a good rookie year, Man, and

521
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Speaker 1: your second year has been very exciting.

522
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: Man. A lot it's happened for you in this second year.

523
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Speaker 1: You know, we've had some injuries go down, We've lost

524
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,880
Speaker 1: some really key pieces, but that's opened up the way

525
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,400
Speaker 1: for you to really come out on ball.

526
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: Man.

527
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Speaker 1: How is this second year been different? How was the

528
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 1: game changed for you in your second year.

529
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this second year, the game slowed down

530
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: a little, but it's like, you know, you still learning.

531
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 2: You know, it's still your two I'm making a couple

532
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: of mistakes, but it's just like I'm learning and I'm

533
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 2: just not trying to make the same mistakes. It's like

534
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: and then like some players, I've always been making a

535
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: good play this year instead of making the great player,

536
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: I just got to work on my hands and get

537
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Speaker 2: the ball.

538
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Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, Man, when you're making plays of me, Man,

539
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: you force the fumbal last game, Like you know what

540
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean. You're doing some good things And seems like

541
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: the coaching staff really enjoys who you are as a person, Man,

542
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 1: And we've enjoyed talking to you on next man up

543
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 1: and learn who you are more as a person. And

544
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,239
Speaker 1: before we let you go. Man, I think it's very

545
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: very interesting. You're so young. But we were talking before

546
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: we got on and into real estate or into real estate,

547
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: you're not into that. You also into dogs as well. Man,

548
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: you bring dogs as well. So you're into these business

549
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: business ventures. And it worked out so when you got

550
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: your first house that your relators were black women, right right,

551
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: and we talked about that. Now you have you a

552
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: young black woman, we have you a young black girl

553
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: that you're raising. How important was that to start business

554
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: with your own people?

555
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 2: Uh, it's very important, you know because it's like every

556
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, like every race they always work together,

557
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: you know. Yes, So it's like our race, it's like

558
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: we always bumping here, right, and I never want to

559
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 2: see the other person do better than crabs and a

560
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 2: barrel type right, like why we all can't eat you

561
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And you know, like I liked

562
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: all of us to come together, Like I'm big on family,

563
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, like when you when you want to mind

564
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: you my family, you know. So it's like I really

565
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 2: want like all of us to come together, you know

566
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: and just grow. You know.

567
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Speaker 1: That's so cool, man, it's cool to hear a young

568
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: man talk like this man and have that wearthowt about him?

569
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: What's next for you? Man? Like clearly you're into businessmen,

570
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 2: you're into investments.

571
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: Man, what kind of stuff are you looking at doing

572
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: man in your young career?

573
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Speaker 2: Uh? To me, Uh, it's for me. I'm I feel

574
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: like it's just coming out next year, you know, and balling,

575
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 2: you know, like like no cautions, Like that's all I'm

576
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 2: focused on right now. I'm really focused on the ball

577
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: right now. We love that being with my feet is

578
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: because this is what God got me here. He blessed me,

579
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 2: like out of everybody at my high school, he blessed

580
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: me to make it, you know what I'm saying. So

581
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: it's like you gotta take this blessing and you can't

582
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: like it's a gift, you know, it ain't like he

583
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: just said, like you don't get like I get to

584
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: do this, right, like I get to play football, right,

585
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: you appreciate It's not it's not a burden right right

586
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 2: for like just appreciating that and like putting in all

587
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 2: my coins and putting in the work, you know, to

588
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: better myself. And man, we've seen you do it.

589
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: Man, we see you put that work in Man, you're

590
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 1: clearly getting better and better every time someone on that

591
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Speaker 1: feel like, did you do one thing for me?

592
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 2: That's your Isle camera right there. Man.

593
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Speaker 1: But those that aren't aware, I need you looking at

594
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Speaker 1: that camera and tell the fans who is Percy Butler.

595
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: Who is Percy Butler? So, Percy Butler is a caring man.

596
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: Love love the people you know. And you know I'm

597
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: gonna bring that juice every time. That's me, ain't manto

598
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: that man? We can't wait to see bring more and

599
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: more juice. Man. We got a few games left of

600
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: the season. You're getting a lot of time. Man. We

601
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: love seeing you out there. I'm sure you're gonna make

602
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: some more replaces, Percy bro. You appreciate you man, the show,

603
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

604
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Speaker 1: Command of course, man, of course there was a pleasure

605
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Speaker 1: because many this is the next Man Up podcasting, our

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607
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Speaker 2: There's no other than our safety from Percy Butler. Percy

608
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Speaker 2: appreciate you man, Thank you, sir.

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