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Speaker 1: So bottom of the eighth inning now at Chavezravine, Dodgers

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Speaker 1: lead the Reds eight to four. Seems like wow, okay,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't paid attention to this game, Dodger up

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Speaker 1: eight for it. Yeah, things got really tenuous the last

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Speaker 1: few minutes. Again, Dodger bullpen. Dodger bullpen. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: the Dodger bullpen. They want to make sure everybody knows, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we are going to have something to say about how

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Speaker 1: this playoff goes. And I don't mean for us to win.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you think we're gonna win, we have

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Speaker 1: something to say about it. Just wait till we get

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Speaker 3: No, that's it right. We've already got our guy ucla

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Speaker 3: Dodger Frank to help set this up. Quote the attack

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Speaker 3: of the eighth inning unquote a Dodger's horror movie, just

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Speaker 3: in time for Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Yamamoto was pretty good, but he comes out of the

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Speaker 1: game and this is where things get interesting. The Reds

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Speaker 1: have left runners on base, they had bases loaded, nobody

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Speaker 1: out in the top of the eighth inning, Down eight three,

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Speaker 1: all they could muster was a sacrifice fly. Alex Vessia

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Speaker 1: finally gets a strikeout after re walking the bases loaded.

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Speaker 1: Emmachian comes out of the game mid at bat with

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Speaker 1: a one to two count, so the Reds changed Battersbill

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Speaker 1: that Landuhar comes up and he looks at one pitch,

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Speaker 1: swings at it and strikes out. So congratulations there. The

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Speaker 1: Reds looked like they were on the cusp of getting

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Speaker 1: back in this and now clearly the Dodgers just have

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Speaker 1: to navigate the ninth inning now and not give up

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Speaker 1: four runs. And Roki Sasaki is coming in in the

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Speaker 1: ninth inning for La, which maybe tells you their planet

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Speaker 1: closer is Sasaki. But but sure as.

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Speaker 3: Hell ain't the guys that once upon a time had

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you right now, man, Yeah, one of the

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Speaker 1: three club they walked, all the guys they spent all that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tanner Scott he can close. Blake try and he can close.

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Speaker 1: No, none of those guys are closing. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: who the happiest baseball team is right now today. You

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Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say the Guardians. No, I think I'm

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Speaker 1: happiest team is a team that hasn't played yet. The

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Speaker 1: happiest team is the Philadelphia Phillies because they are watching

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Speaker 1: this and right now Bryce harper Is has got to

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Speaker 1: bat in his hands in his house and he is

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Speaker 1: squeezing it going. I can't wait to hit against this

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Speaker 1: Dodger bullpen. They can't wait because it's one thing. Hey,

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Speaker 1: the Reds, Let's be honest, the Reds are terrible. This

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Speaker 1: is not a good team. Right. They backed into the

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Speaker 1: playoffs because the Mets just sucked worse. Right, the Reds

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Speaker 1: aren't good. The Phillies are a completely different weight class entirely. Right.

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Speaker 1: They could have wound up with the number one seed

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Speaker 1: overall in the playoffs. Right. They came all the way

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Speaker 1: down to the end, but Milwaukee had the tiebreaker coming

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Speaker 1: into the final couple of days. This is a much

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Speaker 1: better team, and they can't wait to get a crack

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Speaker 1: at this Dodger bullpen, which has stunk for the better

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Speaker 1: part of the last three months. You think, okay, here

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Speaker 1: the Reds. No, can't do that. And you're sweating out

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Speaker 1: they got to I guarantee you, they're just having conversations

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Speaker 1: bullpen is shown there is absolutely nobody you can trust. Now.

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Speaker 1: We don't know he's had two innings. Did you think

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like watching the Mets when

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Speaker 1: everybody else is terrible. Like Sasaki coming in throwing one hundred.

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Speaker 1: pitcher of the future. All these things happening, but we

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Speaker 1: there is literally nobody you can trust on this roster.

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Speaker 1: Not one person can you say, come in and you're

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Speaker 1: in a tight game. Just like you can't trust anybody

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Speaker 1: with a five run lead that I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: I know Dave Roberts loves to go to the bullpen

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Speaker 3: I think he loved it last year because it worked

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Speaker 3: and it was like, all right, let's see how much

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Speaker 3: of a genius our system is. Again. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: Little bit on it because when they when they showed

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Speaker 1: does not look nearly as happy to be going to

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Speaker 3: Went when he went in mid at bat this time around.

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Speaker 3: By the way, that's the other thing is the Red's

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Speaker 3: and then Yamamoto ends up getting two strikeouts to end

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Speaker 3: you don't extend his pitch count whatever. And then in

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Speaker 3: the eighth you leave the bases juiced and have a

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Speaker 3: called third strike after battling. Yeah, that's tough, you don't battle,

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Speaker 1: You know. But here's the thing. But in the end, though,

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Speaker 1: you're saying, it's been a great season, and look what

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Speaker 1: to the Dodgers? So yeah, well you missed opportunities abs

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Speaker 1: which we'll get to it. Wow, we'll get to them.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but for the Reds, you can say, okay,

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Speaker 1: well when it's a home run party and tonight it's

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Speaker 1: eight more runs that they've gotten early and they get

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Speaker 1: out to a big lead, like, what are we really

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Speaker 1: are going to say to themselves, hey, we were lucky

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Speaker 1: to get here. We'll raise a banner, you know, MLB

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Speaker 1: Playoff participant in twenty twenty five, Hey that's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but their whole banner was were cockroaches? You can't

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Speaker 3: kill us, which is what they tried to battle back.

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Speaker 3: It's like, ah, we clean the house. The matter.

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Speaker 1: I'm still here. But I'm telling you, man, the Phillies

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Speaker 1: they are just they're foaming at the mouth right now

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Speaker 1: to get at this Dodger Bowl.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about Bryce Harper these I mean

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Speaker 3: he because you and I started doing this show he

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Speaker 3: was only in his third year and you hated it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but now you realize, Now I come to respect him.

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Speaker 3: At three sixty three and over a thousand career RBI.

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Speaker 1: Went, I'm in a well. Look, we've gotten to the

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Speaker 1: point where boy Bryce Harper is not going to drive

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Speaker 1: in one hundred runs. He's not gonna hit three thirty anymore. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so in a couple of years, when the Phillies still

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Speaker 1: have like six years left on his deal, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: Like that's gonna be the The last six years of

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper making thirty some ond million year are going

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Speaker 3: When was his last one hundred RBI season, Oh, five

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Speaker 3: years ago, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's been He's only I think knocked in

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Speaker 3: Twice twice, Yeah, I mean well, and then he had

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Speaker 3: a ninety nine RBI season in nine nine, Right, it's

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Speaker 3: not one hundred twenty nine is not thirty forty two

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Speaker 3: major leagues in pretty much everything. Yeah, back when he

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Speaker 3: would get walked all the time, but they don't do

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Speaker 3: that guy any He's still a terrific player, right, don't

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Speaker 3: not quite that guy. He's not putting up those beautiful girls.

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Speaker 3: It's still blank you up.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, man, this Phillies lineup and Schwarber

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Speaker 1: like they're saying, I can't wait to get this again.

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Speaker 1: We told you going into the playoffs. The biggest X

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Speaker 1: factor of anything you could possibly say, what's the bit

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Speaker 1: is it? The Yankees lineup is at this? It's the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers bullpen It is the thing that takes the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: from we're a team that's gonna win the World Series.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 1: Hey man, we can go out in this round because

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Speaker 1: we can't get anybody out right. And and and now

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Speaker 1: as you say that, and what we just saw Roki

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Speaker 1: Sasaki two strikeouts and a soft line out to short

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Speaker 1: puts the finishing touches on this win for the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: They advance the NLDS against the Phillies eight to four

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Speaker 1: over the Reds. They went Sasaki with three innings pitch

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Speaker 1: now right, three innings pitching the play. And since he's

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Speaker 1: come back, he's the only guy you can trust. He's

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Speaker 1: the only guy, the only guy you can try.

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Speaker 3: You know what's great is at twenty three, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: Good for him the dog. Look, this is it's a

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Speaker 1: win for the Dodgers. They were supposed to win this series.

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Speaker 1: They went it in two games, the only team to

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Speaker 1: win in two games. You know, we got three game

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Speaker 1: threes tomorrow. But you know this is about what's next

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Speaker 1: for La And I'm telling you, man, this is the

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Speaker 1: Phillies are cut. They got knives and forks. They got there,

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Speaker 1: they got their their napkins tucked under their chin. They're

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Speaker 1: banging the table, going coming, get me coming, Gebby coming,

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Speaker 1: where's that turkey? Where's that turkey? Slice it off. I'm

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Speaker 5: Wall that bullpen Bam a lamb man Bam Bam Bam

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Speaker 5: Bam Bam Bam, Betton Ball and the Dodgers and the

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Speaker 3: struggles from everybody else in the back end of that bullpen.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you go ride the hot hand. Right, you

431
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 3: got two guys in your backfield in the National Football League.

432
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 3: You got a guy who's bulldozing people, and you got

433
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 3: a guy who wants to dance. Offensive line's not very good.

434
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,320
Speaker 3: Which guy do you go with? You go with the

435
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 3: guy who's dancing, because you can get hit behind on

436
00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 3: his scrimmage. You give me the juggernaut of Camp's cannabo

437
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 3: and then away we go. Same thing here. Sasaki is

438
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 3: the equivalent of that with one hundred mile an hour

439
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 3: fastball and good movement. Yeah, he doesn't know what he

440
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 3: doesn't know, So you ride with that. You've got high

441
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 3: priced closers that you brought in, but clearly they haven't

442
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 3: gotten the job done. Now.

443
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Speaker 1: Look, and that's the life of being a closer or

444
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 1: relief pitcher in baseball, is that, you know, for all

445
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Speaker 1: the just to give some gms and managers a little

446
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Speaker 1: bit of a pass here because you know, whether it's

447
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 1: Aaron Boone or not. Okay, it's so volatile. The relief

448
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: pitching position in Major League baseball, where if a guy

449
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,879
Speaker 1: like you, if a starting pitcher is really good and

450
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Speaker 1: has a good year, okay, likely you know he's gonna

451
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Speaker 1: come back and have another good year. Now, maybe not

452
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: the same, the wins losses might not be the same.

453
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Speaker 1: But if he comes and he's really good as Era is,

454
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Speaker 1: you know, close to three, maybe a bad year for

455
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Speaker 1: him as Era is three and a half, right, and

456
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 1: maybe instead of fifteen and seven, he's twelve and eleven.

457
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 3: So all that is, it's like a batting average, right,

458
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: All that is, it averages a couple of bloops that

459
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: get caught one year suddenly.

460
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Speaker 1: Drop in and and you know, you see that and

461
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 1: you got I get that. And the same thing if

462
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 1: you're a batter who comes up and you have a

463
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Speaker 1: big year and you knocking thirty home runs and knocking

464
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Speaker 1: one hundred and ten runs. Wow, you're really good and

465
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 1: you at two two eighty, boy, what a great year. Great,

466
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: but then a down yere four years. Okay, maybe hit

467
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: two fifty twenty eight home runs, ninety RBI. You're still

468
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 1: close to that, to that guy. But you look at

469
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 1: some elite bullpen arms that everybody thinks, Hey, these guys

470
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: are gonna be great, and you sign him they're coming

471
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Speaker 1: off a great year. I would almost rather sign a

472
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Speaker 1: guy coming off a bad years. Like if I sign

473
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Speaker 1: a guy coming off a good year, maybe he was

474
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Speaker 1: used too much. Maybe they're gonna figure him out after

475
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: whatever he figured out this year, and teams are gonna

476
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Speaker 1: be able to take good at bats off of him.

477
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Speaker 1: But it's so volatile, it's so difficult to try to

478
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Speaker 1: figure out your bullpen for more than just a couple

479
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: of months at a time, right like you, you can't

480
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: figure out your bullpen for the whole season. Look the Dodgers,

481
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: you would have figured out, Hey, we are bullpen. We're

482
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,920
Speaker 1: all set right, all the moves made in the offseason

483
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: when we have and we have starters that we can

484
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Speaker 1: move to the bullpen if we need to. And now

485
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: it's hey man, maybe Kershaw in the eighth and Sasaki

486
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 1: in the ninth, Like that, what's gonna happen in the

487
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: next round of the playoffs? Like I'm sure Clayton Kershaw

488
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: will be on the next UH Dodger roster, and maybe

489
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: some relievers won't be because well, okay, he was he

490
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: was still decent enough during the regular season. Rather have

491
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Speaker 1: him lose in the play I'm not gonna lose with

492
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Speaker 1: with Sheen or any of these other guys that can't

493
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Speaker 1: come in and get anybody out. So I mean, but

494
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: but just to understand for for managers like relieve, the

495
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: relief pitching position is so volatile. Guys can be All

496
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: Stars one year and the next year your e RA

497
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: is six and you don't know what happened. I don't

498
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: know why. I know, my ERA is five and a

499
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: half and we can't trust you anymore. But then but

500
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 1: then the next year, hey, they signed someplace else for

501
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: not a lot of money and they have a great

502
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: year and their ERA is two and a half and

503
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they figured out what was

504
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: ailing them the last season. It is really really hard

505
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: to figure out bullpens. But at this point in the season,

506
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: you would have to think at some point, right, we

507
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: know the guys we can trust. And if you're the Dodgers, right,

508
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 1: And this is why this Dodgers thing is such a

509
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: big deal, is because there's only one guy and he's

510
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,239
Speaker 1: pitched three innings. There's nobody else, nobody else that you

511
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: can trust. Say, Okay, I guess we'll helpe this guy,

512
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: and if not, I'll go to the next guy, the

513
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: next guy, the next guy, right, Like I always say, Hey,

514
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: if you change pitchers long enough, often enough in baseball

515
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you will find the guy who it's

516
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: not his day and that's why you're gonna lose that

517
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: game and go home. But the Dodgers, it's the exact

518
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: total opposite. Well, but it's not your day. Maybe it's

519
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: this guy's day. And I'll just keep changing guys until

520
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: I find the one guy that it is his day.

521
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Speaker 3: Well, it is the curiosity, right, And we've talked about

522
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: it for as long as we've been on air together.

523
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 3: You know, the just change of scenery, whether it be

524
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: in the NFL and quarterbacks needing to find the right coach,

525
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 3: coordinator and system to make at work. Same thing with

526
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 3: a guy in a bullpen, like how many how many

527
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 3: pictures have we seen go from all right, they were

528
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: supposed to be the hot prospect. I'm not gonna go

529
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: I'm not grabbing Ben McDonald here. He's got enough.

530
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: It's just but like he's gonna be doing NHL games.

531
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Speaker 3: Nice, there you go. This just put ESPN to signed

532
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Speaker 3: him to opening just for one of the opening Yeah,

533
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: guess what you're gonna go watch then the ice you're

534
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,679
Speaker 3: gonna correspondent that you're there. But but just the idea

535
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 3: that you go to an organization where there is stability,

536
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 3: where you've got to trust in terms of your bullpen coach,

537
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: a pitching coach, your bullpen catcher, all of those things,

538
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: where there's continuity. You know why we we hold up

539
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 3: in every sport those handful of organizations where you don't

540
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Speaker 3: have massive turnover because you can bring a guy in

541
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Speaker 3: and say, all right, you fit what we do and

542
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: here's the philosophy, or we notice something on tape, or

543
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: we you're coming off an injury and the other team

544
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Speaker 3: didn't have the luxury of bringing you along slowly. The

545
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 3: Dodgers you're able to do with their starting staff.

546
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Speaker 1: Right.

547
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: It was a very odd regular season for the Los

548
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Speaker 3: Angeles Dodgers. Right, most of your starters that are coming

549
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: and wrapping things up and getting into the postseason fewer

550
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Speaker 3: than one hundred innings pitch go back to Gershaw right

551
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 3: two five three ERA in the regular season, Lefty final year.

552
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: Guess what you'll see him in the bullpen, Lefty left

553
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 3: the arm coming out, crafty, and he's gonna fight with

554
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 3: every hitter. But the other thing that needs to be

555
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 3: said is you've also gone the last month without Will

556
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: Smith behind the plate. Yeah, so you're relying on young

557
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 3: kid behind the plate to learn how to hit major

558
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: league pitching, but also to call a staff and coordinate that. Now, again,

559
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: a lot of that can be directed from the dugout,

560
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: and we certainly know the Dodgers utilize that kind of thing,

561
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: and their analytics second to none. Right, money spent in

562
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: the organization, in personnel, and all of that cycling down

563
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: to Dave Roberts. But doesn't mean that there's still not

564
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: gonna be hiccups, you know, in terms of locations, set up,

565
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: whatever else. So Smith's supposed to be available, I guess

566
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: he was gonna be available as a pinch hitter today.

567
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 3: So maybe in the next series that rears its head

568
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 3: a little bit and is able to be a calming voice.

569
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Speaker 3: But it had already gone south before he got hurt.

570
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: So we take that with a grain of salt as

571
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Speaker 3: it goes. But Sasaki three innings, let's go young closer, bullpens.

572
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: But the season's just getting started, you know what I mean. Yes,

573
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: it's a little getting started, man, just getting started.

574
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 3: But they're on the plane to Philadelphia.

575
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: That's true. Now here's here's the thing for another playoff series.

576
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Here I told you, and I'm honest with you right

577
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 1: like I was. Where am I right now? Okay? I

578
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: feel better about the Mets now that the Reds are out,

579
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Speaker 1: all right, because clearly, okay, the Reds are a bad team,

580
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: right we said, look are a bad team. The congratulations

581
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: they got there. They won enough gains, lost.

582
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 3: The final an opportunity, the door opened and they crashed

583
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: the part.

584
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: That everybody stunk. They just didn't stink as much as

585
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: the as the as the Mets or other teams.

586
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 3: Did you think they set a fruit basket to the

587
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: Marlins or anything.

588
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: No, I think they sent the fruit basket to uh

589
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: the Mets pitching staff. Hey, thanks thanks for just not

590
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: showing up. Uh, look, and I feel better about that, right,

591
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: I feel better about about the about the the Mets now,

592
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: because all right, the Reds are outd because look, if

593
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: the Dodgs were gonna hit like this against the red

594
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: starting pitching, well, guess what the met they were gonna

595
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: hit like that against the Mets starting pitching because the

596
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: Mets starting pitching outside of Nolan McLean is terrible, right,

597
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: so they probably would have won the series. So I'm

598
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: feeling better, But I felt worse today after watching the

599
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Tigers and the Guardians. Why because the Guardians, look, they

600
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: won games. They deserve to be there, right, they won

601
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: enough games. They were really good the last half of

602
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: the season. But it really pissed me off. And I'm like,

603
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be in the playoffs because they can't hit

604
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: at all at all. I had to watch this, this

605
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: thirty first ranked team in batting average and ops get

606
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: a five run bottom of the eighth inning with a

607
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: home run from a guy that's at five home runs

608
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: all year to force a winner take all Game three

609
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: with the Tigers, who for a while were the best

610
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: team in baseball, right, they're the best pitcher in baseball.

611
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: It really it ups I'm going I had to watch

612
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: my team with three guys that were thirty thirty in

613
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: home run and I had to watch it. And this

614
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: team is awful. They cannot hit at all. The Guardians

615
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: are terrible. Yeah, that what two guys? I think two

616
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: guys on the team have an OPS that's just over

617
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: the league average, the league average. Two guys. Two guys.

618
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: They can't again they get two twenty five. You look

619
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: down at the bottom of the team. You know the

620
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: other teams that are the worst four hitting teams and maybe,

621
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm sure the Guardians, the White Sox. Sorry buddy,

622
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: but you knew.

623
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Speaker 3: I knew that, the Pirates.

624
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: And the Angels, all teams who seasons ended before the

625
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: fourth of July. Before you were eating apple pie and

626
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: holding up Sparklers, their seasons were over. No, no, no,

627
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: here's a team that can't bleep and hit at all

628
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: is making it. And here not only that. He guess what,

629
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: We're in a winner take all game because we can't hit.

630
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: But boy, we find just we just find a way

631
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: to win. Right. I give them all the credit in

632
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: the world. I give them all the credit row before

633
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: I say they.

634
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: Should not even be anywhere Ramirez and Kwan, we're spectacular.

635
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: They should not be near the playoffs.

636
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: The Ramirez a career that really should be celebrated more

637
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: than his five point eight war two eighty three batting

638
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: average thirty and eighty five for him, as well as

639
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: forty four stolen bases for Kwan two seventy two, eleven

640
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 3: fifty six, twenty nine doubles, twenty one stolen bases. Who

641
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: do you think is the next leading hitter.

642
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: Kenny lofton Kenny Laughton game.

643
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 3: Might as well be it's Menzarto at two thirty four.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Manzarto was one of two guys just

645
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: over a league with the ops, just over league average.

646
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Speaker 1: I think he's one of two guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's some next level stuff right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell him about it. Just it bothers me

649
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Speaker 1: so much. And I got nothing against them. I got

650
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Speaker 1: nothing against you. I got nothing against the No, no,

651
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Speaker 1: no no. I've been to Cleveland a few times. I

652
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Speaker 1: love Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: I've been.

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Speaker 1: I've been the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I

655
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Speaker 1: visited there a couple of times. No, I used to

656
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Speaker 1: watch the Drew Carrey Show. I just get really upset

657
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: when I go, how the hell are they in the playoffs?

658
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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: This is and not only that they won ninety game

660
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Speaker 1: Like how he It's not like you just squeaked in

661
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: and you would seventy nine games or something. They played

662
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: the Whites, no, I know, the Oils. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

663
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: we played the White Sox thirty It was our year

664
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Speaker 1: to play the White Sox thirty eight times this year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, really it upsets me, man, really it does.

666
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be this show.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, Let's go and look at their division record.

668
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: What do they what do they do?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Cleveland in division undefeated? Why is that that? They don't

671
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Speaker 3: even put that on the basic They lost one versus

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Speaker 3: division game to the Tigers. Now at a separate tab

673
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: against the Central thirty six and sixteen. Yeah, great, there

674
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 3: it is. That's against the East seventeen and fifteen, against

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00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: the West fifteen and fifteen, inter league play twenty and

676
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Speaker 3: twenty eight. There you go. There's your culprits, the Twins,

677
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: the Royals, and the White.

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00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: Sowhere there now. That being said, and of.

679
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: Course, Detroit in their meltdown at the end of the year.

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: To give you a first Big Ball prediction, because if

681
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: I do. I'm not on I'm out of the family

682
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: text chain. I will go, I will go. I will

683
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: go Tigers and Flarerty tomorrow to win Game three, another

684
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: low scoring game. But I've seen Flarerty come up big

685
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: in big situations, and I'll bank on him doing it

686
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. Good at least a good six innings out

687
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: of him, and he can take this horrendous lineup and

688
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: hold them down again, and the Tigers will get enough

689
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: runs and they'll have one game where they at least,

690
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: you know, they got to score at some point, right,

691
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: They got a couple runs at some point. So I'll

692
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: go with the Tigers tomorrow to win and move on

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Speaker 1: to the next round.

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Speaker 3: Over under his seven innings played. See, we just stop

695
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: the fight. It's I mean, really, I think the over

696
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: runner for run should be three. That's up to seven,

697
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: should be three. Seven, man, I'll take I'll take the

698
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 3: under on that all day long. Let's see what else

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Speaker 3: do we get.

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Speaker 1: We have a slug fest today, it's two to two

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Speaker 1: in the eighth inning.

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Speaker 3: Let's see game special minus one twenty five flarity with

703
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: five plus strikeouts, Tigers to win.

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00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, there we go. I'll take you I'll take

705
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: the Tigers. Yeah, I'll take the Tigers. I'll take Flarerty

706
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: and the Tigers tomorrow.

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00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: Oh, guardians can't hit.

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00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: No, they can't. I got, I mean they got just today.

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00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: I love pictures duels, cauld I tell you.

710
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: That time to find out what's trended right now in

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00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: the wide world of sports. But a guy who also

712
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: loves pictures duel, sure he does, because he always bets

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00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: the under it's Isaac Lohencron.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll tell you that one Marichale Warren spawn one

715
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 6: didn't work out to go back in the day.

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Speaker 2: That was on the East coast too.

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00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that killed me. One of those one

718
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Speaker 1: hour and seven minute games.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was at zero zero, shutout for sixteen innings,

720
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Speaker 6: and it was still in an hour in seven minutes. Well,

721
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Speaker 6: it was not an hour in seven minutes at Dodgers

722
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Speaker 6: Stadium earlier this evening. But it's going to be an

723
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Speaker 6: off season for the Cincinnati Reds because in Game two

724
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Speaker 6: the National League Wildcard Route, the Dodgers prevailed over the

725
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Speaker 6: Reds eight to four to take the series two games

726
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Speaker 6: to none. Mookie Betts four hits with three doubles and

727
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Speaker 6: three RBI. The Reds left the bases loaded twice in

728
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Speaker 6: this game. The Dodgers now advanced to the National League

729
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Speaker 6: Division Series against the Philadelphia Phillies. And here's how it

730
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Speaker 6: sounded just moments ago in a celebratory Dodgers clubhouse, when

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Speaker 6: manager Dave Roberts addressed his team. Now, the noises you're

732
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Speaker 6: going to hear here in case you can't tell right away,

733
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Speaker 6: are the Dodgers prematurely popping their champagne bottles.

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Speaker 2: Listen, I only.

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Speaker 1: Ask, is everything guy ready call pop?

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Speaker 4: Keep your minds like we're gonna be every step you guys.

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Speaker 1: See. Now there's a serious moment for Dave Roberts, because

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Speaker 1: what do you need to say is because all of

739
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: you guys I may call on to pitch.

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00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 3: That's you, O Tawny, that's you Freeman. That you bet

741
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Speaker 3: you may have to pitch. That's just straight out of

742
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: a comedy. Right as the popping as he's trying to

743
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Speaker 3: have the serious moment.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah, I like the premature popping. That's like

745
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: that scene from the Natural right when they were talking

746
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Speaker 1: about winning one more game and the one assistant coach

747
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Speaker 1: pops the champagne that start pouring in on each other.

748
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so, I know what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: Were shadowing life imitating art in the Dodgers Clubhouse. Earlier Wednesday,

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Speaker 6: the New York Yankees forced to decide in Game three

751
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Speaker 6: with a four to three win over the Boston Red Sox.

752
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: The Yankees Austin Wells the go ahead RBI single in

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Speaker 6: the bottom of the eighth inning. The Cleveland Guardians worst

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Speaker 6: to deciding Game three with a six to one win

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00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 6: over the Detroit Tigers, and the San Diego Padres forced

756
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Speaker 6: to deciding Game three with a three to nothing victory

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Speaker 6: over the Cubs. So here's the schedule for tomorrow, all

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Speaker 6: these times Eastern, threeh eight Eastern time, the Guardians hosting

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Speaker 6: the Tigers.

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Speaker 7: Five.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry that game's already started. The Tigers have already

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Speaker 1: left three on base.

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Speaker 6: Just to let you know, as they're continuing with the

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati Reds did tonight at Wrigular fielded five away, there'll

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Speaker 6: be the Cubs hosting the Padres, and then at Yankee

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Speaker 6: Stadium at eighth eight on Thursday, the Yankees.

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Speaker 3: And the Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Guys back to you, thanks a bunch ilo Jason Smith

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Speaker 1: Macarman live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Well more

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Speaker 1: baseball coming up, but straight ahead, a big story out

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Speaker 1: of the NFL today that was really overrated unless it's

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Speaker 1: not Fox Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with my

773
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: best friend Mike Harmon. Take off your uniform, take off

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00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: your cleats, take off your jockstrap. Big baseball.

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00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 7: We bet a big hot take coming up in a

776
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 7: few minutes on one of the big games from today. Yes, yes,

777
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 7: huge boner, but look, today was Today was a day

778
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 7: where Shadoor Sanders grabbed everybody's attention again because of his

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Speaker 7: reaction to an interview when he was asked about the

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Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns making the decision to go to Dylan Gabriel

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00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 7: as they're starting quarterback. Now, look, we talked about this

782
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 7: last night. Joe Flacco was awful. They're gonna go to

783
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Speaker 7: Dylan Gabriel. My big prediction of five guys starting a

784
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 7: quarterback for the Browns this year is coming true. It's

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Speaker 7: still alive.

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Speaker 1: I said, by October they make the change from Joe Flacco.

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00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: We're right on time, man, I said Flacco to Dylan Gabriel.

788
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Speaker 1: But Shador Sanders, now, okay, what's the deal. He still

789
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: stays third string and Flacco is the backup. And I

790
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: get that because, Okay, when Shador Sanders is ready to start,

791
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to start at some point, right. So

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00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: Sanders has asked today about his reaction, and when I asked,

793
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: what's going on? And he just mimes all his answers.

794
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 3: I really wanted to hear the sound, but then it

795
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 3: would just be dead air and we'd get in trouble.

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00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: He looks like he's talking, but he's not really saying anything. Look,

797
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: here's just a sample of what it sounded like. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this reaction that has gone viral in the last few

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Speaker 1: hours locally.

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Speaker 8: Anything to say, I guess If so, it's one more

801
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 8: guess what what do you think you have to show

802
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 8: the show to coach, just having believe in you that

803
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Speaker 8: you can have you ready.

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00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: So again, he's just sitting there and he is uh

805
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: and he is he is miming answers and it's and

806
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: it's just really weird. Now in the end, is this

807
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: that big a deal? No, it's not right because he's

808
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: having some fun here with with this and because what

809
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: it turns out, uh, we find out is that Adam

810
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: Schefter reports This was directly responding to Rex Ryan, who

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00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: said earlier this week, this kid needs to shut his

812
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: mouth and go play. So he's having some fun, right,

813
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: So this is not that big a deal. However, I

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00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: want to say this because this is where Chardor Sanders

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Speaker 1: has to understand perception is reality, and the optics that

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00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: he has right now aren't great. So even in a

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Speaker 1: moment where it should be met with, hey, this is

818
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: kind of fun. He's just having some fun with Rex Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Is that how it's gonna be, uh portrays how it's

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00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: gonna come out. No, there's gonna be a lot of

821
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: what is he doing? He has no support for Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 1: what's happening in Cleveland? And you're gonna get more bad

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00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: optics for Shador Sanders and more teams who are gonna think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: why is he doing this? I mean because you're he's

825
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: got an audition for thirty and other teams now, because

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00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,919
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be on the Browns after this year, right,

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Speaker 1: and he might not be in the NFL after this year.

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Speaker 1: That's why he needs someone to sit down and say, dude,

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Speaker 1: I get that you feel like you're just starting your career.

830
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: This could be your last year in the NFL. You're

831
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick that clearly is third or lower

832
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: on the Brown depth chart. Now, should you get a

833
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: chance to start this year? Absolutely, the fans want to

834
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: see it, and the Broncs the Brown's got no choice

835
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: at some point but to let you start. But understand

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Speaker 1: that after this year, the Brown's gonna get somebody new

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00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: and they're gonna wave you because you're a fifth round pick,

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Speaker 1: and you want other teams to know we can get

839
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Speaker 1: a guy to come in. He can sit in a

840
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: system for a year or two and then really show

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00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: us what he's got. You have to make sure your

842
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: optics are always the best, even though this is not

843
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: a big deal. Look, I didn't care. I know this

844
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: is not gonna be met that way throughout the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and all he's doing is hurting his future employment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I kind of chuckled at it when I saw

847
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: it and just kind of shrug my shoulder, saying, Okay,

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00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: it's a shadure story, and it's really not a story

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00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: because he's not playing. But uh, to that, to that end,

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00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: you know, some of it is it's the latest headline

851
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: about a guy who's who's not playing and where a

852
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: lot of the noise, whether it's real imagined, it's there,

853
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: was about the pre draft process and the issues that

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00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: teams had speaking with him in meetings, whatever else. All

855
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: of that negative script, whether you believe it or not,

856
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: it's there and it's been part of the lexicon. So

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Speaker 3: now you add this as the latest chapter of that.

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Speaker 3: Go back to his comments last week saying he was

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Speaker 3: better than most some of the quarterbacks in the NFL,

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Speaker 3: and some took that as a he might as well

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Speaker 3: have been pointing directly at Joe Flacco's head when he

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Speaker 3: said those things, And then Joe Flacco took to the

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Speaker 3: podium and talked about Dylan Gabriel's work ethics, So folks

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Speaker 3: think that might have been as slight at chadur So

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Speaker 3: now you've got this roundtable thing, and by saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: Cleveland fans have supported this squad through a lot of

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Speaker 3: bad seasons. They ain't gonna turn their back if Shador

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Speaker 3: Sanders doesn't start a game for them.

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Speaker 1: Exit out by the Fresca, Exit swollen Dome. A big

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Speaker 1: Yankees Red Sox hot take coming up next. This is

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Speaker 1: Fox