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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do. That's good us too,

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Speaker 2: our number two here of the Drive, Matt. I'm already

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Speaker 2: in into Tomorrow's a big day here in this building.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: As we mentioned in the first hour, if you didn't hear,

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Speaker 2: Jack Ham's going to join us on the show tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: which is very exciting. That's a monster. That's a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer, a four time champion. The word legend gets

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Speaker 2: thrown around way too casually in our modern culture, but

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Speaker 2: jack Ham is an absolute legend.

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Speaker 3: I think he was like my number three stealer ever

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Speaker 3: on the field. I know, I know Green was seventy five,

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Speaker 3: then forty seven and then fifty nine. Was in the

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Speaker 2: My grandpa growing up, loved Rocky Blier and Jackham, but

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Speaker 2: he would always lament about how they just had to

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Speaker 2: be Notre Dame and Penn State guys, you know, because it's.

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Speaker 3: A WS a W.

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Speaker 2: Fan in the seventies in the eighties, those schools more

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Speaker 2: often than not would take us out behind the woodshed

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Speaker 2: unless we had like Major Harris or those couple of

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Speaker 2: rare exception years. But yeah, just just an absolute legend.

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Speaker 2: And uh, and we'll be very excited to talk to

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Speaker 2: him tomorrow. And then Matt and I are kind of

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Speaker 2: geeked up because Britt Floyd, who is there, a very popular,

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Speaker 2: well known worldwide touring Pink Floyd cover band. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: be here in our studios tomorrow playing a little private

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Speaker 2: show here at the Ihearts that will be on DV Live,

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Speaker 2: I believe, and uh, and so Matt and I are

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Speaker 2: going to get to go into our little theater here

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Speaker 2: with just a few dozen people before we go in

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Speaker 2: the air and watch this awesome Pink Floyd cover band,

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Speaker 2: Britt Floyd, tear it up here in the in the

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Speaker 2: little theater right next to us. So big Friday tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to see them tomorrow night. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: they're there in Oakland, which is kind I don't know,

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Speaker 2: And that's that's the kind of trajectory you climb. You know,

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Speaker 3: Then you know, I've never seen show Pete.

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Speaker 2: I have the in and outs in Oakland. They do that,

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Speaker 2: So it's funny. I've made this joke before to like

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Speaker 2: a big concert guy and he went to Pitt, so

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Speaker 2: he was a big Pitt fan. I used to always joke,

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Speaker 2: there's only two things that can get me to go

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Speaker 2: Billy Strings. I saw him. I saw him there a

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Speaker 2: few times, but he's moved up now he plays PPG Now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's So it's funny to kind of just see those

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Speaker 3: Britt Floyd probably fifteen times. And I've seen them in

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Speaker 3: the small venue either here at the old station three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Motes and I saw them one time. It

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Speaker 2: o'clock in our old building and Motes and I were

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Speaker 2: on from noon to two, and you and Dale got

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Speaker 2: there early because you guys wanted to see them. You

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Speaker 2: go on air till four, but you wanted to see

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Speaker 2: them at two? Yeah, yeah, Motes and I were like

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Speaker 2: finishing the show and you and Dale are like leaking

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Speaker 2: that's the That's the only time I've seen them, but

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Speaker 3: And to call them a cover band is selling them short. Yes,

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Speaker 3: like they have a very good relationship with the members

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Speaker 2: Just playing ten thousand seat venues.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they're not Australia playing at your local

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right. So big one on the Drive and

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Speaker 2: for the drive, Big Friday tomorrow and it's March madness

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Speaker 2: is rolling along at uh so. Just a very fun

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Speaker 2: time of the year here for sure. Matt, you sent

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Speaker 2: me a very good article. I think our listeners know

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Speaker 2: that you do this, but for those who haven't heard before,

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Speaker 2: I think we're picking up listeners every month, which is great. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: welcome to the part or.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times will send me just he'll forward

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Speaker 3: Yeah, basically you know, we'll probably just do a segment

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Speaker 2: A lot of times it's more minutia detailed d V

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Speaker 2: like back in July and August, Matt would send me

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Speaker 2: a lot of articles and be like, get familiar with this.

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Speaker 2: Like now that you're now that you're called up to

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Speaker 2: the major leagues here, you're gonna have to speak my language.

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Speaker 3: You might have to take it one more level of

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Speaker 3: Chinese to have this conversation, right.

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Speaker 2: So some of them are like Matt is coaching me

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Speaker 2: while I try to get my PhD and write my

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Speaker 2: I think this would be a fun segment for the show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of segment brings up and Steelers would

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Speaker 3: be heavy in the receiver market.

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Speaker 2: And so the wide receiver stuff is always it's a

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Speaker 2: wide receivers in this draft class certainly fit that bill.

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Speaker 2: Is it fit the bill or foot the bill. I've

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Speaker 3: I think foot the bill means you like pick up

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Speaker 2: Where is like this guy, I'm looking for this wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Type like your fits in the shoe.

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Speaker 2: here and comparisons that McShay makes for them to current

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Speaker 3: I'm terrible at player comparisons, so people that are good

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Speaker 3: who's your mind?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, you know, like I just don't

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Speaker 2: Yes, same here. Uh so let's start Elijah Surat wide

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Speaker 3: Now I like, okay, my I was just just go.

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Speaker 2: Both boundary X receivers who win with physicality and as

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Speaker 3: Yep, and Wilson was a guy I really like coming

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Speaker 2: That might styles who's he remind you of Ray Lewis?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jeremiah Price is the next time at.

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Speaker 2: I like those comps even more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's not bad if you get a second

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Speaker 3: round picking terms to Michael Wilson, You're happy.

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Speaker 2: This this uh you know this, This next power hitter

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Speaker 3: And reminds me of will Amaze and Babe Ruths were

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Speaker 2: And Matt You know that that point guard from Duke

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Speaker 2: where he was at age twenty. Next on this list

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Speaker 2: Antonio Williams out of Clemson. His comp lad Mconkie. We

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Speaker 2: They're sizes, sizes are nearly identical. Speed and explosion numbers

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Speaker 2: are very similar. Williams a little bit more explosive. Mconkie

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Speaker 2: of me. Both excellent route runners. Both guys do a

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Speaker 3: So Williams also probably does his best work out of

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Speaker 3: the slot. But folks, just because Mconky's white does not

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Speaker 2: You know, real quick, uh Outstanding video producer TV. Fit

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Speaker 2: The bill is used when something is exactly what is needed. Example,

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, okay, we were good.

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Speaker 2: Look at you.

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Speaker 3: I think I got that right.

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Speaker 2: Those seven years of creative writing really paid off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, six yeah, seven sounds you know.

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Speaker 2: Remember the Titans, Denzel Washington gives like the big speech

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on this Thursday. I guess

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Speaker 2: a sudden, you feel like you've got some real yeah,

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00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 2: some real types.

438
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Speaker 3: Then you could still even get a three million dollar

439
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 3: Vet event type guy to right totally.

440
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: Christopher tweets. Matt has spoken plenty about drafting an offensive

441
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: lineman that might start at guard. And then bump out

442
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: to left tackle. But it feels like right tackle candidates

443
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: are the one dominating this draft class. Yeah, any chance Faltanu,

444
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: who played left tackle in college, could move over in

445
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 2: a potential future first or potential future right tackle is

446
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,719
Speaker 2: the pick this year with the class of strengths. It's

447
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: a fair question.

448
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: It's a real fair question.

449
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to want to continue to

450
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: do that moving their tackles from side to side thing.

451
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I mean it would be a something

452
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 3: you do after this year. I mean, Falton is your

453
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: right tackle this year, no matter what. I mean, You're

454
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 3: not asking to change now, no matter what happens in

455
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 3: the draft raft. His draft class is the perfect example. Though.

456
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: There were a lot of really good tackles in that draft,

457
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 3: Latham alt VLOGA. I mean there was a ton of them.

458
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 3: The fact that the Steelers got him as late as

459
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: they were, and almost every one of them changed sides

460
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: their rookie year, including Troy I mean, truing alt Alts

461
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 3: like the prototypical left tackle, but they had Slater the

462
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 3: right side. Yeah, So it's become more and more common

463
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 3: not to mention the responsibilities of right verse left is

464
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 3: way more the same than it used to be. It

465
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 3: used to be run behind the right guy, the left,

466
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 3: the left guy he protect. The right guy has to

467
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 3: pass Blockkins TJ. Watt now you know, but still it's

468
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 3: an adjustment. I don't like moving guys around. I don't

469
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 3: think that helped Broderick's career. Troy, to his credit, did

470
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 3: it very well, but he was also injured his entire

471
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 3: rookie year and could probably just think through the mindset

472
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Speaker 3: of a right tackle, and deep down, I don't ever

473
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Speaker 3: want to move him. I want him to be Lane

474
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: Johnson and just be like the best right tackle in

475
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Speaker 3: the league for ten years and I never.

476
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: Worry about Johnson, right Yeah, lock it down.

477
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. So if they draft someone that's more right

478
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 3: tackle oriented, I keep getting that blowback with Ian Short,

479
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 3: you know, like he's a right tackle and I'm like,

480
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 3: you're from that he might not be. Yeah, it's exactly right.

481
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: Here's a name too that we have not brought up

482
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 3: in the first round for the Steelers. What do you

483
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: think about Proctor?

484
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: Caden Proctor. I think he is a very interesting conversation.

485
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: Especially as a left guard this year. Mash your face

486
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 3: maybe stays there forever, or maybe he's your left tackle,

487
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 3: so he's in that equation. For me, there's my four

488
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 3: or five oh lineman that I think.

489
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: He's in that conversation. He should be such a unique

490
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: body type. He is a massive human being. Yeah, he's

491
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: always been a weird ev out to me. And this

492
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: is I mean, you never just.

493
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: Equate him with the Steelers, and I just wanted to

494
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: at least put that name on the people's on people's tongue.

495
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 2: It should be you're right, and I've told you he's

496
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: got it. He had a really weird background. He was

497
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: the number one player his high school year. Yeah, from Iowa.

498
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: Originally committed to Iowa, but at the eleventh hour de

499
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: committed and went to Alabama. Spent a year at Alabama,

500
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 2: transferred to Iowa, transferred back to Alabama.

501
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: That's like stranger, Yeah, just strange.

502
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: And he's always been in the spotlight because, as you

503
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: can imagine, he stands out amongst NFL body types. Yeah,

504
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 2: imagine what he was like when he was eighteen nineteen.

505
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: Of course, I remember watching his I think it was

506
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 2: junior year where he was at you know, playing like

507
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: one of those academies or something, and he just I mean,

508
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 2: he looked, you know, he looked like Johnson playing against

509
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: high schoolers like it was just unbelievable.

510
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: And he's not fat fat, No, it was just massive.

511
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: He just just massive. So I don't know, he's just

512
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 2: always been He's always been a guy that's tough to pinpoint.

513
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 2: I think that's the best way that I'd put it.

514
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 3: I would mind getting my hands.

515
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: On WoT wouldn't either, certainly, especially with all the offensive

516
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: line minds that they have on that coaching staff. Now,

517
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: I really think you can coach this guy up and

518
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: mold him into a cert you see, a perfect role

519
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: for him kind of thing.

520
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: Guard first.

521
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cody tweets and says, starting to feel like the

522
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: bread crumbs bread crumbs are leading the Steelers to drafting

523
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Tye Simpson. Other than guard and maybe tackle, there's not

524
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 2: anything else that's really glaring. I don't believe they will

525
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: select select Simpson, but more and more, I don't think

526
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: we can rule it out.

527
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: I think that's well said, and I think that's a

528
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: really good reading of the bread crumbs, because they could.

529
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: Sure, you know what I mean, they want the options

530
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: to We could take a guard slash tackle, We could

531
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 2: take a wide receiver, he could take a quarterback, we

532
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: could take a safety.

533
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know what their feelings are on Simpson.

534
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: I get the impressions that he's not for them at

535
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: twenty one. But if he is, they can swing it

536
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: now and you can still address other needs with those

537
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 3: four other picks.

538
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: Totally another Chris back to back. Chris is here. Chris

539
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: G tweets and says, I know people love to say

540
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: to mock drafts, the player won't be there at that spot.

541
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 2: We all know mock drafts are just for fun. Okay,

542
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: but would you guys take this one or spin again?

543
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: Jordan Tyson pick twenty one? C J. Allen in the

544
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: second round, Kaylin Rutledge, Skyler Bell, Bud Clark in the

545
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: third round. I think I would spin again.

546
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: I'd probably spin again, but that's good.

547
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 2: I don't hate that.

548
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: Say I would accept.

549
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 2: It, but I don't. Also, I'm not rushing to the

550
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: podium to draft a linebacker with my second pick.

551
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: That's the part I didn't love.

552
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I like CJ. Allen, but and I don't.

553
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: Think he will be there in the second round, so

554
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 3: I think that's why he took him. You know.

555
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 2: I think that's why the VPA type.

556
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I can't believe you're still available blah blah blah.

557
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: Which I don't hate that logic.

558
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: No, I don't either. I'm sure that's why he mentioned

559
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: it in the tweet. And I think that'd be a

560
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: fine draft. And if we get together on Monday after

561
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: the draft and that's their first pick, so I'd be like,

562
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: I get it, it's good. It's a good draft, but

563
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: I would not grab it now. I wouldn't not trade

564
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 3: dose five picks for those five players today.

565
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: Now, if you told me Jordan Tyson it picked twenty

566
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: one and then one of these pregnon from Oregon or

567
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: B and m do he was just saying, and we

568
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: were just laugh Bestonas right. Yeah, I've really been Matt

569
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: trying to nail down these names. It's a weakness of mind.

570
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: It's something we've been.

571
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: If you give me wide receiver at twenty one, pregnant

572
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: or Bestonas at second round, I'd be very interested. If

573
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: you give me Venga at twenty one and then one

574
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: of these wide receivers second round, I'd be very interested.

575
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that any of those I'm taking

576
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: now though, because I think those are very those are

577
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 3: kind of the bar. Yes, I think that's probably what

578
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: will happen.

579
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Annie tweets us and says, do you see the

580
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: Steelers making any moves in the draft to parlay some

581
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: of this year's picks into picks next year?

582
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: Yes?

583
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: And will you guys consider any mock drafts where you

584
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: make trades and that happens? Thanks, Yes, and yes, yes.

585
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: And yes. I think it'll be harder to do than

586
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: ever because the whole league, every source you tell you

587
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: listen to, once next year's picks, and they're just not

588
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: going to be real excited to give them.

589
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: Up, especially the teams that don't have Patrick Mahomes and

590
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: Josh clear cut franchise.

591
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: Quarterback, and even those guys want the wide outs. I

592
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: guess that are coming out. I mean every just talks

593
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: about it's an amazing draft, and even just non quarterbacks.

594
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 3: But one of the advantages this was very true obviously

595
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: doing the Tomlin era, but it's still I think very

596
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: very true with this organization is there's always five to

597
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 3: ten teams whose seats are a little warm and aren't

598
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: so worried about next year's picks because they may not

599
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 3: be here if they don't hit, and those are the

600
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: teams to talk to exactly right, yep, yep, yep.

601
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: I think I referenced this tweet earlier when we were

602
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: talking about JJ McCarthy at the start of the show

603
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: in the court in the quarterback situation there in Minnesota.

604
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: But Cody tweets and says, would you guys trade a

605
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: late pick for JJ McCarthy if he becomes available? He said,

606
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: I don't love the idea, but new environment, chance to

607
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: potentially sit under Aaron Rodgers and learn would have me intrigued.

608
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we did talk about this. I don't know

609
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: if we talked about it enough through the Steeler lens.

610
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: We'd a really long first segment just going around the

611
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: league and whatnot. I would never object for any team

612
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: to do that for McCarthy Richardson, even if you have

613
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: Burrow or Lamar, because you might hit, you know, I mean,

614
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: it wasn't long ago that they were sought after. I

615
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: never thought McCarthy was not high on my list, but

616
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: I would have given you a fifth round pick for

617
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: him coming out of Michigan, you know what I mean?

618
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Right, So maybe I don't

619
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: like that style of car, but I'll still give you

620
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: two grand for it when it was worth twenty, you know,

621
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: and drive it anyway. It doesn't mean you're married to him.

622
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: I just don't know where one more quarterback fits in

623
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 3: this room. Because again this goes same to the conversation

624
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: would you take nuts in the third?

625
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: Exactly right?

626
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 3: Right right? And the answer always is if you really,

627
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 3: if you study them to the degree they do, which

628
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: is more than us, And the answer is you love

629
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: the dude, well then yes, the answer is definitely yes.

630
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: If you're ah, that'd be kind of nice and probably

631
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 3: maybe not this year, Matt.

632
00:29:52,720 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: This tweet comes from longtime fan recent co host Wesley Yuler.

633
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: Would you rather nuss or JJ McCarthy, Let's let's let's

634
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: let's nuss, And I'm not gonna say like one for

635
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 2: a third one for just rather have on the roster

636
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: in July and la trope.

637
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 3: And what you just said crossed my mind because like,

638
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: write this minute to me, nus is.

639
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: Worth more than McCarthy.

640
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, And it's the whole bird in the hand burden,

641
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: you know, thor number two go fish conversation like you

642
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: if you offered the vikings the pick, it would take

643
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 3: the Nus. I'm sure they'd take it. You couldn't get

644
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: Nus with the pick. It would you could get McCarthy

645
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: with correct. But if you loved McCarthy more than you

646
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: loved Nus two years ago, and you don't let the

647
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: NFL film sway you, too bad. There's it's a good conversation.

648
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 4: Who is it?

649
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: If they both hit? Who's better?

650
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: Oh? Nus?

651
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

652
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: I always thought J. McCarthy had a little bit of

653
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: a just an inherent ceiling. Yeah, he's not the biggest friend.

654
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Speaker 3: I'll think one can like.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy kind of always struck me as the jack of

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Speaker 2: all trades but master of none. Like it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: huge glaring weakness. But you also don't look at him

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Speaker 2: and go, wow, he's got an incredible arm. Wow, he's

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Speaker 2: crazy accurate. Wow he's six foot six.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: His athleticism is off the charts.

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Speaker 3: It really bothered me. They're winning national titles and he's

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Speaker 3: thrown it eleven times against good teams sometimes too.

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Speaker 2: It was like the second half of Penn State. I

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Speaker 2: think he threw it once.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it wasn't like they were blowing out little

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Speaker 3: Sisters of the Poor, and you know he finishes with

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Speaker 3: eleven attempts because they won forty eight to nothing. Right,

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Speaker 3: it was at Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right.

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Speaker 3: For all those reasons, I'd rather take Richardson, Like, of

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Speaker 3: all those kind of options.

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Speaker 2: Of those three, if you throw Richardson into the conversation,

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Speaker 2: would I would agree because he just again he has

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Speaker 2: the most just raw ability, things you can't coach.

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Speaker 3: And he might just get hurt every year all the time.

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Speaker 3: And oh well I threw a draft pick away. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's worst case scenario. You know that could happen.

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Speaker 2: Let's do one more here before we take our final break.

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Speaker 2: Sudesh tweets and says Happy Thursday, My guys. Two very

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Speaker 2: important questions. Number one, has our bourbon savant tried eagle rare?

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Speaker 3: Of course, eagle rares wanted the bourbon world so weird.

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Speaker 3: It used to be like when I was in I

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Speaker 3: don't know, when I was twenty five, there was like

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Trace Blanton's eagle rare. They were always on PAS shelves,

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Speaker 3: and then there was like this bourbon craze. A lot

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Speaker 3: of our listeners know better than me, and the price

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Speaker 3: of all that stuff went crazy and.

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Speaker 2: Went from thirty bucks to one hundred bucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like twenty to eighty or I don't know. You know,

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Speaker 3: so back in the day it was a treat and

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Speaker 3: it was like, oh, this is good. But now people

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Speaker 3: act like it's like gold, and I don't think it's changed,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know. It's a weird world, and I

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Speaker 3: don't go down that road very often.

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Speaker 2: Did just the demand went way up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and a couple of the real good ones that

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Speaker 3: were nice bargains then got like overpriced all of a sudden. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: like they're Alex Peers, Matt.

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Speaker 2: That's like me with concert posters.

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Speaker 3: Dude, Okay, are they real collectible now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You go into my basement and I have probably fifteen

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Speaker 2: different concert posters hanging on the walls. And I used

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Speaker 2: to be able to get them for four dollars at

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Speaker 2: vintage stores. Or if I went to a show where

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Speaker 2: I wanted to get a poster, I could buy it

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Speaker 2: from the merch stand walking out after the show, so

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Speaker 2: I didn't have to have it with me the whole time.

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Speaker 3: So they don't want to just mangle it during the show.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're going to see Billy Strings, or you're

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Speaker 2: going to see Bruce Springsteen. You better walk in the

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Speaker 2: doors the second day open and go right to the

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Speaker 2: to the merch table, or you're and you're still going

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Speaker 2: to battle for a poster and the resale market is crazy.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, where were all you jerks ten years ago?

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Speaker 3: Huh? Bibblehead Nights or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Biblehead's another great example. It's still a five dollars product.

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Speaker 2: Why are we making lines all across the Klementi Bridge

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Speaker 2: for one? Get out of here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah babies?

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Speaker 2: Second one from Sudesha's Do you both still laugh at

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Speaker 2: the movie Tommy Boy like you're watching it for the

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Speaker 2: first time. Absolutely, pretty much, fat guy and a little coat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pretty much a genius.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, unbelievable. Always makes me think a wolf too.

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Speaker 2: Wolf loved Chris Farley and some characters.

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Speaker 3: I've heard that personality.

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Speaker 2: Personalities that Wolf used to love a good, a good

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Speaker 2: Chris Farley, Oh fantastic, it's it's it's excellent. And what's

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Speaker 2: his name?

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Speaker 3: The good looking guyblo, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mister NFL hat when he's when he's sitting at the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers games.

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Speaker 3: Way before your time. But did you ever see Young Blood?

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Speaker 2: I did see Young Boy hockey movie? If yes, I

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Speaker 2: say he was like sixteen. Yeah, you ever seen you

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Speaker 2: ever seen? Have you ever seen Mystery Alaska?

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Speaker 3: No? But I know it's a good hockey movie from

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Speaker 3: that like that era. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, every time you and I have these conversations, I

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Speaker 2: want to just go home and watch seven movies in

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Speaker 2: a row, all these old classics. There's a big dent

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Speaker 2: into the tweet. But wait, there's more, and we will

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Speaker 2: close this thing down on the other side to put

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Speaker 2: a bow on the day's operations. Yuler Williamson, It's the

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Speaker 2: Drive Steelers Nation Radio on the Seat Audio Network.

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Speaker 4: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here,

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Speaker 4: and while you might not know who your team is

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Speaker 4: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number

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Speaker 4: one pick. Bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

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Speaker 4: all the scouts talking. I guess that's why it's been

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Speaker 4: the group's go to draft beer season after season. Be

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Speaker 4: sure to order around for the table before your team's

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Speaker 1: Tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven home

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Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Final segment of the day Here on the Drive and

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Speaker 2: we will close this thing don by continuing to get

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Speaker 2: to more of your questions, comments, concerns, and reactions via

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Speaker 2: the ex Twitter. Matt Let's roll along. RJ tweets and says, fellows,

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Speaker 2: we need our weekly mock draft segment. Love the roster

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Speaker 2: building process and all the moving parts that go into it.

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Speaker 2: You guys do a great job covering all the bases.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, r J. And guess what Matt tomorrow will

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Speaker 2: do our weekly mock draft segment.

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Speaker 3: How do you know what I want to do soon? Yep,

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Speaker 3: hit me and it could be tomorrow. Sometimes we put

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Speaker 3: rules on these mocks too. I was thinking maybe we'll

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Speaker 3: do back to back mocks. Make them super quick, don't

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Speaker 3: talk them out too much. The first one we have

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Speaker 3: to go O line, wide receiver. The second one we

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Speaker 3: have to go wide receiver, O line and see what's

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Speaker 3: there and then see what you do in the third round. Accordingly,

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Speaker 3: I like.

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Speaker 2: That, and then that maybe any time can eventually we

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Speaker 2: do one where you can't take an offensive lineman or

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Speaker 2: a wider.

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Speaker 3: We are to do those things right, Like, you have

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Speaker 3: to take somebody other than those two positions. And see

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Speaker 3: what especially when you do the whole draft, when you

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Speaker 3: get it, when you start doing like and you look

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Speaker 3: at the draft at the end, it's like if you're

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Speaker 3: fantasy draft, like and I took that tight end the

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Speaker 3: first round and I got nothing around you know.

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Speaker 2: Those those again, those exercises. They're always fun, just for

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Speaker 2: kind of painting a picture.

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Speaker 3: And the teams do this stuff absolutely, you know, like

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Speaker 3: they talk through it.

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Speaker 2: Matthew tweets us and says, how do ooh, I like

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Speaker 2: this one. How do you guys measure whether a first

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Speaker 2: round pick is good or bad? For example, if a

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Speaker 2: player never makes a Pro Bowl, do they or do

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Speaker 2: you consider them a miss, et cetera. What parameters do

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Speaker 2: you put on that? That's a really good question.

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Speaker 3: A first round pick, Yes, I guess I don't have rules.

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Speaker 2: You better be a starter like mine was going to

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Speaker 2: be if you pick up the fifth year option. But

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Speaker 2: I also realized that might be a little.

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Speaker 3: Like Linderbaum didn't.

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Speaker 2: That's but that's also that's kind of like like if

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Speaker 2: they are a no brainer. Sign them to a second contract.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a good first round pick.

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Speaker 3: Probably the easiest way to do it. Yeah, I get

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Speaker 3: to extend it.

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Speaker 2: If you get to year four and it's like, we

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Speaker 2: don't want this guy to go in where we want

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Speaker 2: to keep him around, and that to me means it

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Speaker 2: was a good pick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I can't even think of a position where

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Speaker 3: you just want to rent him for that long or whatever.

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Speaker 2: You know, Right, maybe if if you're a super Bowl

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Speaker 2: contending team and you add a running back and he's

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Speaker 2: really good for you for three or four years.

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Speaker 3: And then he looks like he's hitting a wall.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you don't want to have to be like

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Speaker 2: one of the best in the league, right.

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Speaker 3: Kenth Walker, But he wasn't a first round pick. But

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Speaker 3: if he'd been a first round pick, it's still successful.

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Speaker 3: They let him walk, they won the super Bowl, they

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Speaker 3: would taking him ten picks later and he end up

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Speaker 3: being a round one. That's still a success. But overall,

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Speaker 3: I like your parameter's best. Do you want to extend

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Speaker 3: the baby tells you no? Right?

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's a Linderbaum situation. The fifth year number

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Speaker 2: is way too high, and then he ends up prevent

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Speaker 2: But if you would say, oh yeah, no doubt, we

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Speaker 2: would love to re sign that guy, I think that's

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Speaker 2: kind of a pretty good indicator.

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Speaker 3: You get two contracts out of a player in today's

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Speaker 3: NFL first round or or whatever is a success. Now,

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Speaker 3: that's not the same for a fifth round or a

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Speaker 3: fifth rounder might be a core special teamer for four

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Speaker 3: years and you send him un away and then you're

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Speaker 3: it still is a good pick.

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Speaker 2: May joelnar tweets us. That's not like trying to sneak

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Speaker 2: in some naughty name or anything.

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Speaker 3: Is it. We've gotten a lot of tweets from May. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not true, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm like in one of those minds, like,

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Speaker 2: is this is this a Seymour Butts type joke from

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Speaker 2: May here.

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Speaker 3: Our friend Anita?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Uh, big shout out to Dale love that guy.

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Speaker 2: May tweets us and says, feel like the order of

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Speaker 2: operations in your guys draft segments is off. The obvious

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Speaker 2: value economic analytic pick at twenty one is wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: You guys are giving way too much love to the guards.

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Speaker 3: The obvious economic pick quarterback or tackle? Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: yeah yeah, I see what's being asked, because if you

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Speaker 3: if Pierce cost me twenty five million on the open market,

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Speaker 3: but I think the wide receiver market's also skewed right now,

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Speaker 3: because if I can get Pittman for a seventh round

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Speaker 3: pick or Pierce for twenty five million a year, or

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Speaker 3: I can every year get a receiver on day two

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Speaker 3: like the Packers did for like Rogers whole career there,

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Speaker 3: or the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Did, Steelers did all throughout care For the most part.

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Speaker 3: I just don't ever tackles are different, you know, like

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Speaker 3: you have to take one in round one, or you

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Speaker 3: have to fish in a horrible free agent market where

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Speaker 3: there's no groceries on the shelves and they're all expensive receivers.

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Speaker 3: They're still you can always find a different avenue. And

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Speaker 3: I know it didn't happen here for a while. This

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Speaker 3: is not this is the worst city to talk about

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Speaker 3: it because we went.

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Speaker 2: For a few years.

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Speaker 3: Right. But I hear what you're saying. All alignments are

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Speaker 3: a premium though, But yeah, and guards are even a

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Speaker 3: little underpaid at the moment.

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00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: I understand.

874
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 3: Uh, if he turns into linderbomb, right, I mean, that's

875
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 3: that's pretty good value.

876
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Jeff tweets and says, in my opinion, the

877
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: linebackers have been a little underwhelming the past few seasons.

878
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: Not awful, but also not up to what we would

879
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: want for the standard. How would you guys rate Jackham?

880
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 3: Not jack Ham agreed.

881
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: Not U yes, not Patzi, not James Ferrier. How would

882
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: you guys rate it? And would you consider taking a

883
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: linebacker earlier than expected? Maybe rounds two or three? And

884
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: Jeff says, I love Jacob Rodriguez and think he would

885
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: be a great fit.

886
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: I love Jacob Rodriguez too. On my other show today

887
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: we did who's someone in that could sneak in the

888
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: round one that no one ever saw? Commenting Jacob Rodriguez?

889
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: What don't we like about him? Now? I mean, he

890
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: makes every play and he's tested off the charts.

891
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: I think in a lot of years he could be

892
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 2: LB one in the draft.

893
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 3: And maybe the league just looks at it like, I

894
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: don't know what you guys are all thinking, but he's

895
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 3: he makes every play.

896
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: And he's super creates a turnover every game. Yeah, yeah,

897
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: they'd use him on offense in the red zone as

898
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: a tight end full back. H Like, you're just smart yeah,

899
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: I agree that, Yeah, little underwhelming. Not awful the linebacker played,

900
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: but a little underwhelming.

901
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

902
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: I would also say that through the scope of I

903
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: think that's how most teams in the NFL feel linebackers.

904
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: An offensive line play right now across the league feels

905
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: a little underwhelming.

906
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: Yes, it definitely is. Like if we were to do

907
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: the top ten off of all linebackers walking the planet

908
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: right now, it's way worse than it was when I

909
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: was a kid or fifteen years ago. I mean, there

910
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: used to always be Irlacker, Lewis.

911
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: You know, there'd be Willis and Keighley, Wagner.

912
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: There's always five studs Hall of Fame caliber type dudes,

913
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: and Wagner doesn't count anymore.

914
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: And you know, not at thirty six, Warner's the only

915
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: guy that just Warner's the only one now that.

916
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: It's no matter what generation, he's you know, one of

917
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: the best in the league. So this is kind of

918
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 3: a league wide problem. I understand what you're saying, but

919
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: it is a good linebacker draft. And if in the

920
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: second round they took Rodriguez, I'd understand. Yeah, I mean

921
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: around two or three pick I would be a I

922
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't predict it, but I would understand it. Yes, that

923
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: makes sense, you know it does. Yeah, but they got

924
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: three guys under contract that they like, and I'm so

925
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 3: rough on Harrison. He's gonna find me in like training camp. Blake,

926
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: you what You've been calling for me to a cut

927
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: for six weeks.

928
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: He's gonna come up booth and be like, I'm still.

929
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: Here, right? They never they love me, leave me alone?

930
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: Another one. All all of our favorites are in the

931
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: fold today. I love it. Another one of our favorites,

932
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Smooth Dave tweets and says starting caliber safeties feels like

933
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: starting caliber safeties are available every year in free agency

934
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 2: and don't cost much money. With that being said, would

935
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: it be roster building malpractice to draft Dylan Thennemon in

936
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: round one? Maybe? Maybe, like this is one of those

937
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: like Omar might sit here with us and say, you

938
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: guys are crazy, I'm not taking a safety in round one.

939
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance take a running back

940
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: in round one, right, I think there's a good chance

941
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: he would that he would be saying those words like

942
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: great player. Is he one of the top twenty one

943
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: players in this draft? Sure? But if I can again

944
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 3: the conversation if one of them. If okay, I guess

945
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 3: this is the best way to put it. What did

946
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 3: Brisker cost? He's like one year, four million, five million sounds.

947
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: Let's say it's five million, round number, and I think

948
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: he's worth five million. He didn't get it. If he's

949
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: one year, five million, what does Brisker cost? If he's

950
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 3: a tackle, it's like one year twenty eight million.

951
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: Dan Moore junior.

952
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 3: He's better than Dan Moore.

953
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: But yes, you know what I mean what you're saying.

954
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the equivalent of Brisker was a true free

955
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: agent on the market for anyone to sign, he'd be

956
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: at least two years, fifty million, at least probably sixty.

957
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 3: And that's kind of answers the whole question right there,

958
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: you know. And I'm not saying they have take a

959
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 3: tackle in round one. That's it's the obvious example. Uh man,

960
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: We got some and a lot of It's all a

961
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: scheme related. I mean, if you need your safeties to

962
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: be studs, or you ask a lot from them, well

963
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: then you're gonna pay them more than the other teams.

964
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Speaker 2: You know, we got we got through most of them.

965
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: We got like two or three tweets left here and

966
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: we only have about sixty seconds. Matt asks us a

967
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: really good one about the profile of draft quarterbacks changing.

968
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Speaker 2: I want to save that for tomorrow because that's a

969
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: good one for Matt. So this quickie from Ean to

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00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: get us out of here. Do you guys have a

971
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 2: favorite place in the city for a Friday fish fry?

972
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: No, but I wish I did, and I should take

973
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 3: advantage of that more. I mean, the city's probably as good.

974
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Speaker 2: As any in the world for it unbelievable.

975
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's probably something that I could walk to in

976
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: my house and I just don't take enough advantage of Yeah,

977
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Speaker 3: because I'd like them and appreciate them.

978
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: And yeah, I love the Saint Killians Parish. They do

979
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: a fantastic one. Man. I love Freedom Farms there. They've

980
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: a farmed, a table restaurant, and they do an incredible

981
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: fish fry. But you're right, everybody in Pittsburgh has their spots.

982
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: They're all amazing. It's like an art It's like where

983
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: should I go in Buffalo for good wings? Yeah, everybody

984
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: has their favorite, but there's a dozen places you can

985
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: go that are gonna knock your socks out.

986
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: Are you good? Pizza in New York. Yeah, borrows the.

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00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: Name of the place. Great questions today, we got through

988
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: most of them, one or two that will hold over

989
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: until tomorrow, and I'm sure we'll get plenty more tweets

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00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: between now and then as well. Great stuff today, big

991
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: fun show planned for you. Tomorrow, will have our weekly

992
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: mock draft, maybe one or two if Matt has his

993
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: say about it, and we will talk to Hall of

994
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: Famer Super Bowl champion Jackham here on the Drive on Friday.

995
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: But that will do it for us today. Big thanks

996
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: to Nate, Doug Nathan on the ones and twos, mister

997
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: TV on the video side of things, and the Bourbon

998
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: Savant himself, Matt Williamson. I am we Sheweler. Take care everybody.

999
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow. As always. You know where

1000
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: to find us. It's on your twenty four to seven

1001
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