1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wine down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: We have a lot to talk about. I mean, where 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: do we start, Katherine, I haven't seen you since Los Angeles? Like, 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: how long ago was that? Because it feels like a 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: couple of months. It feels like a month. I think 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: it was only two weeks. I think it was three weeks. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Three weeks. It was Los Angeles. It was one yes, 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: for almost three weeks. This week is the longest if 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: I feel like, but minus when I lived in Los Angeles, 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: you like, yeah, I like walked in and I was like, 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: and you get five minutes, tell me everything that's happened, 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wow, this that? Um yeah, and catch 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: us up. I mean, well, for I want to start 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: with a few things first before we get into I mean, 15 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: because they had this a topic sheet of things we 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: were supposed to talk about. Um, there's some there's some 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: good chats in there, but I do want to start 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: with the should we wait with the B one or 19 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: or to do like light stuff first, Let's light. Let's 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: either way, it's start light. Okay, Okay, she wasn't ready. 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: It was your birthday. Tell us about your birthday? Birthday? 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: It was you guys, I think I did. I say 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: I was supposed to be in the Bahamas on the 24 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: last episode. I don't. I can't remember. I listened back 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: to a few minutes of it because it was some 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: of the things we said were so funny, and I 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: was gonna screen memo it to you because we talked 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: about how we went to the beach and we were 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: like take away ourselves, doubts and whatever. I would rather like, 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: like catherinee chocolate cookies, doing emails, attel room, which is 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: my heaven, by the way, doing emails while y'all are 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: just like washing everything away, writing the words insecurity, fear control, 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: and watching the ocean sweep them away. And I'm like 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: her my last email. That's literally what he said. That's 35 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: why you have to listen to because it was so funny. 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: Thanks advance, Thanks in advance, but so obviously. I I 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: think I talked about the changing of the trip and stuff. 38 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: But you, guys, Okay, I told you I don't go 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: down the Why haven't I've blocked myself from reading comments. Okay, No, 40 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: if it's about me, I don't want to know. Okay, 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: but you unblocked yourself when you read some comments on 42 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: my birthday, he self gutting and it is. It was 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: funny because they were like, the queendom is falling, call 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: us the queendom and they were like that she's so 45 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm offended. We are not. It's hilarious. Do you know 46 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: what I want to say? Up listening if you think 47 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: we're dumb? And I said that, so Sorority, I'm for 48 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: sure getting just annihilated, and you run out. Okay, I'm like, okay, yeah, 49 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: super credible Reddit. I haven't done that a very long time. Yeah, 50 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: and I haven't either, and it's felt great. And I 51 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: was kind of just like, why do they care? Well, 52 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: why do I care? Is that's the bigger question. But 53 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: why do they care? Right? But it was so funny. 54 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: So because you didn't you didn't post my happy Birthday 55 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: until later in the day, and Pam and Julie never 56 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: said never did and I had a type of and 57 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: mine was awesome. You guys really good. But can I 58 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: just share with the world what I was doing because 59 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: I was driving me two kids in a babysitter six hours. 60 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: Nowhere cares about what we actually hadn't going on, And 61 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't care if I knew it you know, Pam 62 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: and I, you know, we had a like I saw her, 63 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, we same with you. I'm like, it's so 64 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: funny how people. And here's the thing too, because I 65 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: didn't actually for the first time when I was reading 66 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: some of the stuff, it actually it made me laugh 67 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: because how off base they were on I mean, all 68 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: of it. I am so angry, don't it's actually it's 69 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: but it's it's interesting because we put ourselves out there 70 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: to be then right, just like the Kardashians or we 71 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: are saying we are. I'm just saying, anybody that is 72 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: in a public platform, you are going to then be 73 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: picked apart or And I was talking to someone last 74 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: night and he's like, would because I was telling him 75 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: some of the funny stuff and what's his name? Dramatic 76 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: pauses are my favorite pauses. And he's like, would you 77 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: this is the question I want to pose to you guys. 78 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: Would you walk into a bar and ask fifty people 79 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: what they think of you? No? No, I wouldn't talk 80 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: to fifty people in a bar. To the hotel room 81 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: with her computer and kind or chocolate cookies, But no, 82 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would never see because I don't care right, 83 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: unfortunately until they call me queen dumb and now buyed up. 84 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: Come at, I do care, but I wouldn't ask. I 85 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: don't care really, But also, why are you in a bar? 86 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: So then okay, let's say arrest your kidding. It's funny though, 87 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: because when you say because I know you can, and 88 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I know how much you care when someone I mean, 89 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: for example, a situation that you went through a couple 90 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: of months ago, like you you went forward until you guys, 91 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: had she knew or whoever? Absolutely, I definitely care, but 92 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: I still wouldn't go ask fifty people yeah, because I 93 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to know. Here's the thing, too, is what 94 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I said to that person was they wouldn't tell you 95 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: the truth if to your face anyways, because it's always 96 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: behind it. So they're gonna say, oh my gosh, of 97 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: course I love you, you're the best, whatever, and then 98 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: they're going to go behind your back and they're going 99 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: to write hateful things because they think that they know 100 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: your life or know who you are. No, And that's 101 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: the piece like where I I think even a year 102 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: from now. A year ago I would have been like yeah, 103 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: I would ask, but now I'm like no, because I 104 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: know that that's not like we know who's we are, right, 105 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a daughter of the king. I'm royalty and 106 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm not dumb, So peace out should have told you that. 107 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: I think I thought it was just so funny and like, yeah, 108 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: there was just I mean they were talking about how, 109 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: um my last relationship, you know, crash and burn. I'm like, 110 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't even in a relationship, like you can't even 111 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,679 Speaker 1: be friends with some It was just it was so 112 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: funny how I don't know, So I just thought that 113 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: was funny, but I had I did. I laughed at 114 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: because the queendom part was just were the Queendom. I 115 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: can't wait to just excessively post on our big queendom 116 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: Christmas party. Stay tuned you And the reason Julie can't 117 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: come is because she's not available because she's got Don 118 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: in advance. He's coming now, we'll take it to her. 119 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: But my birthday was actually great, and um I thirty 120 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: nine thirty nine. I flew home from Chicago the night 121 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: before and you guys had already had plans. You were 122 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: gone at a cheer thing. You were gone, And I 123 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: know that the fort is going to be like a 124 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: big bash and so on my calendar. Well, you were 125 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: going to Bahama, I was gonna Wassmas. Yeah, but then 126 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: Chicago fire happened, which was such an awesome experience, and 127 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: I hope they bring a cute on there. I'm excited. 128 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: It's so different than anything you've done. So it's fun 129 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: to see you in a suit and with a with 130 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: a pony. But no, it was great. I had a 131 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: great time, and I had a bottle of wine in 132 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: and I wrote down my goals of what I want 133 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: to still shed in thirty nine. Like you told me. 134 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: I listened to that, and so I have my whole 135 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: goal list of what I want to do, saying like 136 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: you would never write in the list, I'm like, I'm not. 137 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: I like lit a candle and I had a bottle 138 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: of wine and I'm just like, this is my um. 139 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: You know everything that I'm going to shed to move 140 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: into forty and things that you know, it's going to 141 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: be a good decade. It was so great, and I 142 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: went to bed and it was it was It was 143 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: the most And I just never in a million years 144 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: thought I'd get to a place where I would celebrate 145 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: my birthday. So that's growth. It's almost like and be 146 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: amazing and happy, like in the closet crying. I feel 147 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: like it's divine timing years. I can't it's New Years 148 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: like every New Year's I do. I just you don't 149 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: think when the there's only forty eight hours to my birthday, 150 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: when the I want this year because I'm so hopeful 151 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: and happy. Okay, But I do think God did it 152 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: on purpose this year which one you were because and 153 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: so we were all like, okay, we're gonna skit scat 154 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: scatter around, yeah okay, and then you're like, I'm not 155 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna Bahama Chicago fire, and we're like that is colder 156 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: than we originally planned. And then there you are, and 157 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: I think, like, think of all the people that love you, 158 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: that would want to do that day with you. It's 159 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: God like literally just clearing the road so you could 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: just be with yourself. It was so great. It was 161 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: so great good. That was awesome. I loved every minute 162 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: of it. And just like I said, I'm the last podcast, 163 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: like it's good to be in this space to just 164 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: have those moments of peace and be happy and not 165 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: crying my closet, like Cat said, because let us recall 166 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: my thirty at birthday when I was under my cover's 167 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: bawling my eyes out. I'm alone. Birthdays are tricky, tricky 168 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: for anyone listening that is coming up to thirty. It 169 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: is just not even what you think it is. Take 170 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: a moment and just love on yourself, have a drink 171 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: or don't. Don't be hard on yourself. You're just getting started. 172 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and forties, I'm just so excited. Was that 173 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: facetious or for real? Guys, you shed your givers ship 174 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: in your forties. The boundaries are getting so much clear. 175 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: Boundary hard yesterday, and I really just it's just us girls. 176 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: It's just us girls and people that think we're queendom um. 177 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: So the holidays are coming. I just want to speak 178 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: into the people that don't feel extra lovey dovey over 179 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the holidays, like Jesus is the reason for my season 180 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: and ours on the couch. But also tricky for a 181 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: lot of people to navigate all the responsibilities, all of 182 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: the millions things, the programs, the gifts, the blah blah, 183 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: the hosting. So I asked to the family, which family 184 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: your extended family are just No? I just we hosted 185 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: our house every Christmas, typically four days sometimes five, but 186 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I do breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It is very much 187 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: a come and be hosted. Okay, play with the grandkids. 188 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: No offense to anyone, but like I've literally asked several times, 189 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: just trying to create a plan. I don't know about you, guys, 190 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: but December is flying, flying, like it's already gone and 191 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: it has just begun. Like I can't figure it out. 192 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, let me just like lay out 193 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: the calendar here because I'm also trying to get some quality, 194 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: good family time in with the Core four as I 195 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: call us um because Dad has been gone a ton 196 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: this year, which is great, but also just like it's 197 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: been a lot. Kids are older, they're noticing, you know, 198 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: we need a little like core or four times. So 199 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: I reach out several times like can we get a 200 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: guys gonna come before? Do you want to come after Christmas? Us? 201 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: I get nothing back that's helpful for're planning several times, 202 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: and so yesterday, so two days ago, I write at 203 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: five o'clock at night and just say, hey, would you 204 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: like to come or would you prefer to come the 205 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine? It's Christmas? Even Christmas are not an option. 206 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't say that. No, it never has been. I 207 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: protected hard because the Prince of piece. I need that 208 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: magical merry moment where it's like I need to listen 209 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: to Jessica Simpson belt Holy Night. I need a moment 210 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: for myself. So I go to sleep that night, I 211 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: get nothing back. I get nothing back. So you know what. 212 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: I woke up the next morning, I thought, w W 213 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: j D and I'm just kidding. I was like, what 214 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: do I need out of the season, And I thought, 215 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to rush to get ready for them 216 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: on the twenty It would be nice to have them after. 217 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: And so I sent a message and said, it looks 218 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: like what will work best for us is the twenty 219 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: six through the twenty nine. Can't wait to see you. 220 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: And that was it. That's amazing. Did you get a 221 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: responsing actually works best? Okay? And I was like, I 222 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: feel really good about it. I I sat with what 223 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: you I just got to a point where I'm like, 224 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm asking you when you want to come to 225 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: be hosted. This is not like a difficult yeah, And 226 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm asking people that don't have jobs and don't have 227 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, like the world's your oyster. So just pick 228 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: a time you'd like to come and be loved on 229 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: and hang out with your two really fun grandkids. Do 230 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: they actually hang with the grandkids though? Um, Preston's mom 231 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: is incredible. That's great. She is. She doesn't make sense. 232 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: I think in lives there are creatures and there are people. 233 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: She's a creature. She needs her own habitat, she's got 234 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: her own food, she's got her own agenda. She's not 235 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: She's on a different imaginary level than anybody I've ever met. 236 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: So she's incredible. And pop Up loves Fox News and 237 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: he just loves to just watch Fox News on love 238 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: And that's okay. I mean, it all is what it is, 239 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: but I wish us like I don't even think they 240 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: care as much as I care, and I put all 241 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: the stress on me and then I've slowly just let 242 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: go of that, and now I'm like, what works for you? 243 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: See a lot of that this year because you unhosted. 244 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 1: Proud of you? Are you? Guys? That's what quiet quitting is. 245 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: Isn't that a new thing among like the workforce? Quiet quitting? 246 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm quiet quitting. I'm a quiet quitter. That's good. Great, 247 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: So that's great you sat with it and you then 248 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: spoke of what you needed and what you wanted instead 249 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: of yeah, because it's when something if it didn't feel good, 250 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be a good thing, and it doesn't have 251 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: you good. And there's a lot more of us that 252 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel good for that we just don't speak 253 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: up or we're like watching all these magical moments on 254 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: Instagram and then it feels defeating. And I think you 255 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, a lot of us don't have 256 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: the family that we wish we had. I don't and 257 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: I never have, so I've had to create memories with 258 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: my friends and like I've supplemented and God has given 259 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: me rate supplements for that. But it's just okay that 260 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: it's not magical for you and you gotta do what 261 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: you can do to take back the magic. Mm hmm, 262 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: I like that. Cat. Do you think this year is 263 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: more stressful for you or or more cheerful? Um? More cheerful, However, 264 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it's always stressful too, just like the 265 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: getting ready for it um, but definitely more cheerful. I'm excited. 266 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: Are you going to make out under the Christmas tree? 267 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: Maybe we look at the Christmas tree up yesterday because 268 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: we're very behind because I've been sick and you know, 269 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: all of the above, and like half the lights didn't work, 270 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: and you know, I thought you were going to say 271 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: you're putting it up. Of course, nothing was going nothing 272 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: was going right, and he was, you know, Nick was 273 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: like cussing and did it and I was like, hey, 274 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: it could have been two trees and yeah, right, that's awesome, 275 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: and it is grateful for the less paperwork. Yeah, exactly, 276 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: and even though there is more paperwork on other sides, 277 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: it's okay too, and that's okay, and actually that actually 278 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: makes it easier. Does it call him your holiday heart 279 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: that you don't have to deal with all the layers 280 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: of that, layers of the ex husband, I know, your 281 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: first Christmas without But I just wonder if it's like 282 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: like you get a little more freedom in the holiday choice. 283 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Does it feel that way or does it feel well, 284 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: this is a harder holiday for you, right, it's tough 285 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: for one. Yeah, because I don't have my kids Christmas morning. 286 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: Now I'm changing what I'm doing with them, which I said, 287 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, my Christmas Day is now Christmas Eve, which 288 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: is really anointed, thank you, It really is I'm excited. 289 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: It's everybody was making their way to a major But 290 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: I am going to I have a week before Christmas, 291 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: like the week for Christmas, I have off and I'm 292 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: going on a trip. She is like, what is happening here? 293 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: Are you going to grease? Because I'm gonna drop this 294 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: mic and them out? No good, Oh I didn't even 295 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: tell you know, but I'm just going to be so 296 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: mad if you're going to grease. No, I'm going to 297 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: London in the holidays. It's a movie catching up on 298 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: here stresses me out. Okay. Hashtag by blank invited her 299 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: to grease. Shut up. I'm sorry. Sorry to be the 300 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: ones that I don't know where it was listed. I 301 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: feel like I think it was my incented to queendom. Yeah. Sorry, 302 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: it's funny. Who people who come back around? It's funny 303 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: as are usually good for that. No, it was just yeah, 304 00:17:55,160 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: it's a it's um, it's it's yeah, as certain someone 305 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: came back around. But I I said, no, what did 306 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: you say? Did you say it was Greece? But maybe? 307 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: Uh no. Just where I'm at right now, I'm I'm 308 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: not gonna be left over. That's right, that's right? Or 309 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: an afterthought, that's correct, Yeah, tell us about London. I'm 310 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: sorry alone, Okay, I'm having it is so magical over 311 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: there right now you have I mean, you're going to 312 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: be in a movie. My heart's palpitating because Katherine knows 313 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: this and you know this too well. I haven't actually 314 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: mentioned this on here yet. Okay, here goes. So in September, 315 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: I went to my check up because I have been 316 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: on anxiety us in for twenty years, sorry, eighteen years, 317 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: and so I was on like a higher dose back 318 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: in the day. And then I've I when I had 319 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: my first kid, Jolie, obviously I weaned down because I 320 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: just you know, I was reading things and I was 321 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: just like, well, some might wean up. So that's an 322 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: interesting choice. Yeah, it's kind of right. Whatever, So I 323 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: decided to lean down, and I would still have paintic attacks. 324 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: There are still things that you know, Cat would know 325 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: that I would have an anxiety attack over or whatever. 326 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: But then when I got divorced, so there was a 327 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: thing where I said would always make up a three 328 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and have terrible anxiety if I 329 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: was a three o'clock it is for me too. While 330 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: my abuser. The first abuser would grab me out of 331 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: the bed at three in the morning, so I'm at 332 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, I'm protection alone, scared, 333 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: so I wake up. Yeah. So, uh, but a supposed 334 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: getting divorced, I have not had a panic attack. It's 335 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: like when you I was gonna say it the negative 336 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: or the triggers from a past or something that may 337 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: remind you of it that was still in my body 338 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: because a lot of that first one, uh was carried 339 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: in and felt familiar, familiar with past relationships. So yeah, 340 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: So I went to my doctor and I told him 341 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: I go. He goes, you still on lexapro and I said, yeah, 342 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: but um, I've been doing it like sometimes I forget 343 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: it's like every two days or every other day. And 344 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: he goes, well, how's your anxiety? And I said, to 345 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: be honest with you, doc, like I haven't had an 346 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: anxiety since I got divorced. And he goes, would you 347 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: want to try to wean off? And in my mind 348 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: I was like can, I Like, how am I going 349 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: to be okay? And he goes, well, listen, you know 350 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: sometimes people need medication for their serotonin levels. And in 351 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: a month or so, you might have to go back 352 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: on and that's okay, don't beat yourself up, but let's 353 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: try it. And here's some supplements that you can take. So, uh, 354 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: this is very long winded and I'm gonna get the 355 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: supplements to the full list. I've been like going down 356 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: like I've just been. Yeah, so for the last so 357 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: I am officially a month in a week off anxiety 358 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: meds for the first time in eighteen years. Good. I 359 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: have not had an anxiety attack yet. Having said that, 360 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: you're flying, I'm flying to London by myself. It's magical, 361 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: and I'm not in a first class seat because that 362 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: ship's expensive, even premiere. I'm an economy. Well you're tiny, 363 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: so it's fine, fine, and that's and I'm not trying 364 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: to bougie, but like it's only my anxiety that gets 365 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: because I'm I don't like to feel claustrophobic, and for 366 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: nine hours on a plane on those planes is bigger 367 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: than our normal American domestic airline honestly, And you're so teency. 368 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean I mean this, like, I just I feel 369 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: bad for when I get on a plane and there's 370 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: like a giant dude that comes and sits next to me. 371 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, buddy, what can I donate to you? You know, 372 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be great. So that's gonna be I 373 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: think overnight. Yes, So I'm gonna leave Nashville at six 374 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: something and then I land in London at nine. This 375 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 1: is perfect and but yeah, I mean, this is my 376 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: first solo, this long of a trip by myself. I'm like, 377 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: what if I have an anxiety attack? What do I do? Like? 378 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: And I know all the tricks and stuff. I just 379 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: don't wanna be bummed that, like, I have an anxiety attack. 380 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: I've been so like crowd that's gotten this far without 381 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: notice too much too now, I think, But if it 382 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: pops up, it pops up. Yeah. But yes, flying alone, y'all, 383 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm going to London and it's going to be so 384 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: good for you. I'm so excited. I just cannot wait 385 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: to explore. And how long are you going to be 386 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: in their place? Five nights? Yes, five sleeps, five sleeps 387 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: And I'm so good. So I'm so hopeless romantic for London. 388 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: So I told I told Sepnam, who was an amazing 389 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: exact over at Lifetime, that I wanted to do a 390 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: remake of the holiday because that's my favorite, like my 391 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: favorite movie, holiday movie. And so I told her that 392 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: I was going to do some holiday hopefully remake homework. 393 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: This is going to be so it's gonna gonna just 394 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: write it all down and go explore and have fun. 395 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: And it's going to be so beautiful there. I get wit. Yeah, okay, 396 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: and I'll keep you guys all posted by the panic 397 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: attack mid air. You won't no, no, no, no. I 398 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna put it out there that I'm I'm 399 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: so excited that I'm going to take this adventure. It's 400 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: not like you're going for work. It's not like you're 401 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: like you're excited to be there. So I was frantic 402 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: on the trip. I was nervous. When did you want 403 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: to London August for what you presdon at a show 404 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: over there? No? Well I knew this, no it, I 405 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: just went in August president at a show I did. 406 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: We did Paris for a night, very romantic that we 407 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: were in London for like a week, okay, and we 408 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: took I took the night flight. Br uh. Other wife 409 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: of the duo was behind me, but like a couple 410 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: of rows, so I didn't see her really the whole time. 411 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: I actually didn'tee her the whole time. Actually, um, I 412 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: had a very large guy next to me. I wish 413 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: I could. I donated a little leg space too, but 414 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: he It was honestly like, I just had to go. 415 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm in a cocoon. When do I ever get eight 416 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: hours alone? Oh? Yeah? And I brought a million things 417 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: from my self to do if I chose to do it. 418 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Sex in the City was playing just like that was playing, 419 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: So I just watched that again. I woke up when 420 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: I needed to and neck pillowed. I brought my fun 421 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: little oils and I'm sure the giant bear next to 422 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: me looked that, but I didn't care. And I cocooned, 423 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: and when I woke up, I was in the happiest 424 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: place on the plant. It's gonna be so good. You're 425 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna cocoon for eight hours without a panic attack. In 426 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: Jesus name, We're gonna pray for you for you leave. 427 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. It's gonna be great. And if 428 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: I do, I'll be fine. Remember you saw me that 429 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: morning and I cried, yeah with barbarand I was like, 430 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm nervous to leave my kids. I feel very far away. 431 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: It's an ocean black, and then I just got there 432 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is our people are so sweet. 433 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. And then I'll be right 434 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: back on Christmas Eve and then that night I'll just 435 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: get all ready to get the kids on Christmas Day 436 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: so they'll come to you noon on Christmas Day, I 437 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: picked them up at uh Dad's house, and then you'll 438 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: do Christmas Eve that night, so I will have presents 439 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: under the tree for them, so at least they have 440 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: something underneath the tree. And then that night we'll leave 441 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: the cookies up for Santa. And then, yeah, this is 442 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: going to be good. So the only thing that I'm 443 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: sad about is I'm missing church. So oh, you got 444 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: to find a church there. It's going to be amazing. 445 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: Church there is going to be different and good. But 446 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if they would have a service on there, 447 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: because okay, we'll find one. Churches will do. Like it's 448 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: a little holier there than it is here anyway, because 449 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't have one on Christmas Day. Because I was 450 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: gonna go Christmas Day and they don't have one, so 451 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: it's either I'm going to find are there any churches 452 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: that do Christmas Day here? Yes, yeah, there is. I'll 453 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: find it and I've been before because that's my one thing, 454 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: Like I love Christmas church. Like it's just please go 455 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: find an amazingly Mas church there and just like send 456 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: me all the photos by the palace. I will be 457 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: sending so many photos and I'm so excited. So total 458 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: side note, I'm really proud of you. Obviously I didn't 459 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: get to go because I was sick. But Jason's birthday, 460 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: Oh you invited, Mike. I'm so proud of you. That 461 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: was great. I already shared my opinion. I just had 462 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: to say that I was proud as well. I said 463 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: the same thing, I think it's great, and then I 464 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: told her at a Charlotte moment where I wasn't sure 465 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: what i'd say to him when I saw him in 466 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: person because I haven't seen him since we cleaned out 467 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: his closet. Well see, yeah, yeah, that's the nice running 468 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: with them. But I was literally kind of like I 469 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: was sick again. But maybe my spidy senses. Yeah, yeah, 470 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: I think it's just trying to just again have that 471 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: I said the last episodes, like I just want everyone 472 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: to be happy and I will do whatever to make 473 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: my children happy and it doesn't take away anything, Yeah, 474 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: to have him here in those moments, to make to 475 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: see my kids smile so big. I've been following along. 476 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: My girlfriend created this instagram um Mindful co Parenting, and 477 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: she is speaking, she's licensed and has a million degrees. 478 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: She's really brilliant. But it's been interesting to hear what 479 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: she has to say about co parenting and how much 480 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: of it you already do. It's really brilliant. Like just 481 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: a lot of really good things, even things I didn't 482 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: think of that you guys go through that's so unique 483 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: to that walk that I'm just really proud of you, 484 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, wow, you're already nailing that, or like wow, 485 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: that's a really good I don't know, it's just really 486 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: it's not easy to anybody that's navigating co parenting through 487 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: the holidays, Like I just am really proud of you, 488 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: and it's not easy. And you have to relinquish control 489 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: over like the most sacred piece of your heart being 490 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: outside of your body and I just can't imagine yea. 491 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: And I think it's one of those things too where 492 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: it's like am I happy that you know I'm not 493 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna have the kids know and do I want to 494 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: mother if you know, and be like, ah, this is 495 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: all your like, but what does that do? It doesn't 496 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: do anything anything. So it's like we know where we're at. 497 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: It's like it just has at some point it has 498 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: to stop. It's like for the stop that like why 499 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: you know? So it's just what it is. There's no 500 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: changing anything anymore. There's no going back. There's no and 501 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: sometimes I might have to, Like on therapy, we talk 502 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: about our acre, like who's coming on my acre? And 503 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: maybe there's times when I'm not gonna be okay and 504 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't want him on my acre, and I get 505 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: to make that choice. I have a double gate on 506 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: my acre. Did you do the acre? Did not do 507 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: the acre. So it's basically about who you allow in 508 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: your space and who gets to come on your acre. 509 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: So there's certain people like you guys have my door 510 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: code and you're allowed in my backspace, which is my sacred, 511 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: sacred watching the sunset. But there's people that I'm not 512 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: going to let in on my acre. And for example, 513 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, someone like an X won't have my code 514 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: to my acre, they can't get on and I have 515 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: And she's like, you know, what do the walls look like. 516 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: And I was telling Christen, like, my my fence you 517 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: can see through. So I'm still I'm still welcoming, but 518 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm also there's a there's a gate, and you can't 519 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: come in unless you know the code. So I actually 520 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: put a bench outside of my gate. You're welcome to 521 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: sit outside of my acre. I want you to be 522 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: comfy out there without a code. What would your acre 523 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: look like? Oh my gosh, I don't know. And you can, 524 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: like things can be buried on your acre and you 525 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: can dig things up on it was It's really therapeutic. 526 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: And I think that would be something cool too for 527 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: you guys. Listen, because there's so many times where I think, 528 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: and I've learned this just with dating, letting people in 529 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: my space, that I like, shoot, that just tainted my healthy, 530 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, happy vibe in my place. And so this way, 531 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: it's like you're more mindful of who you let on 532 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: your acre, in your house, in your special place. I 533 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: think for me, it's like when I've let people on 534 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: and then I just have this like guilt ridden, shameful, 535 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: like now they're there and I don't want them there, 536 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: and why did I let them in? And why did 537 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: I give it? You know, like I don't like that piece, 538 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: and it's kind of refreshing to be like, oh no, 539 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: new acre moving you out. There's the bench and it's 540 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: yours to be able to say who and not until exactly. Yeah. 541 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: I felt terrible telling Homeboy Hawk Girl Summer to leave. 542 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 1: At the same time, this is my house, and if 543 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't want you here, I'm gonna respectfully say please leave. 544 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: But before I would be so people pleasing that I 545 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to hurt their feelings. Yeah, I understand. I 546 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: think that's a human I also think there's like a dominant, 547 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: a male dominant energy it we all navigate to. It's 548 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: more of a danger maybe feeling than disrespectful, like if 549 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: you know where I live, I don't want you to 550 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: make I don't want to make you too unhappy. Yeah. Yeah, 551 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's my own personal experience where I've been like, oh, 552 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: let's just make the smooth edges so that way you're 553 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: not going to come back here when you're not supposed to. 554 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: Acreage interesting, give it a try. It's listed somewhere. You 555 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: should post it. Yeah, there's like a she actually lists questions. Okay, 556 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: Amy has to ask her YEA or d M the 557 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: Refuge Therapy Counseling Center in Nashville, because that's where we 558 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: all go. Do you still go okay, yes, but I'm 559 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 1: not going until next year. Okay. She kind of like 560 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: closed it out ish. But I think that that always 561 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: makes me laugh when we get to this point in 562 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: the year and people are like, I'm not going till 563 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: next year. Why does that always get to me. I'm 564 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: like that new year you well, it's been membership. See 565 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: you guys next year, wink. It's like a month ago. 566 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: I can't remember. But it was kind of like kind 567 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: of like this wrap up email that was like, you 568 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: know when you first came to me, here, we're your 569 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: goals here where you're blah blah blah blah blah. I 570 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: feel like we hit those we did this blah blah blah. 571 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: Call me anytime, But you know, did it feel like 572 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: a breakup. I'd be devastating reap, I know, the recap, 573 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: But it was great because I could look back. I 574 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: was like, oh, I don't remember saying that that in 575 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,479 Speaker 1: that at the beginning, kind of going okay, I did 576 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: accomplish my goals for that, so my goals going forward 577 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: are just different and so it's going to be like 578 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: a less often. But starting in January, Yeah, she was 579 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: like you can She was like, you can pick when 580 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: you cook and I just come see you and say hi, 581 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: which I felt like. I was like, are you trying 582 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: to break up with me? And she was like, I don't. 583 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: Kind of like a breakup. Yeah, but I think if 584 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: I got a recap email, I wouldn't need that. One 585 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: resuscitation threw me for a loop. It was like a 586 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: legit recap email. Great news is I don't see any 587 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: recaps in my near future. I think Amy is life 588 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: enough trauma that we need to sort through that very 589 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: very specific reason. So yeah, you went into yeah to 590 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: figure out whether to stay or not. So it was 591 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, and I'd already kind of 592 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure other family stuff and all 593 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: that stuff will still come up, but I feel like 594 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: we kind of in the season of st Nick. You 595 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: know you're back. What a wonderful part of the year. Man? 596 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: What else you got? Can I know anything about? Are 597 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: you meeting anyone in London? I just want to know, 598 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, I want to know. I've got to 599 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: ask the questions. So that's not a no. That's definitely 600 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: not a no. Do you see her face? I know, 601 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: well she had a light up about London that I thought, 602 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: but you know what, keep it. You keep that for yourself, 603 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: you goin to keep it for myself. I just want 604 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: to asked her now, that's all. I don't need a name. 605 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I think we got her. I think you know the 606 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: answer ink and I will just say, does he have 607 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: a London accent? He has English? He has an accent. 608 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: It's not British. That's an accent. That'll do it. That'll 609 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: make a girl get anyways, anyways, I yeah, just I'm 610 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: gonna just yeah, yeah. See London and Love was our 611 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: hashtag when Preston and I went, and it was very 612 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: good for our relationship to be in London. Oh that's 613 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: going to be our hashtag for First of all, what's 614 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: our nickname for whoever? This guy? This poor guy is 615 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: like I'm like guys like I'm probably the biggest walking red. Like, 616 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: don't date her. She's gonna come up with a name 617 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: for you. You don't come up with the name. You 618 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: don't do it. Hashtag for her London trip you think 619 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: on that. Let us snuff send it to the queendom. 620 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: I do you want to say something? Can I say 621 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: something about it? It's your podcast. You can do whatever 622 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 1: you want with wind Down with Janne Kramer slash Friends. 623 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna go and let you say whatever 624 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: you want. Jackie just came in, and let's call him 625 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: London since she was going there with him. Alright, London. 626 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: But there's something you guys are so mean. If we 627 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: call him London that would throw people for a loop. 628 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: Then call him London. Then we shall call him London. 629 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: We shall call him London. But this, I want to 630 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna say. I'm going to I feel 631 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: like I just want to puke though, too, Okay, just 632 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, because I sometimes I'm like, do you wanna 633 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: just shut up? But I feel that way here and 634 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I shouldn't have said I feel that already 635 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: about the holidays. I shouldn't have said all the things 636 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: about the holidays. Yeah, I mean, because I've been very 637 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: private and I haven't shared who I've talked to and 638 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: past or whatever. You really haven't. Thank you. Here's where 639 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: I feel a little silly and I'm curious. I would 640 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: love your guys opinion. Okay, okay, okay, Sometimes when you 641 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: meet someone it feels different. Why are you leaving me 642 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: like that? Live for those moments? Oh? To feel different? 643 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: That's that's it. Go ahead, continue, We're hanging on your 644 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: d Oh tell us more. That scares me because if 645 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: it's not real, or then I will feel stupid to 646 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: end to go did I or did I? Or I'll 647 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: question my I what I'm thinking to intuition no, and 648 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: what Amy always tells me to. And I said, I 649 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: brought this up to her about something that I was 650 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: going through. Um, like a few months ago. I said, 651 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: I had so much anxiety in my body, and Amy, 652 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: I don't want you know, to have I didn't have 653 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: anxiet attack, but I could my heart was like pounding 654 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: and just felt heavy. And she goes you, she's like, 655 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: how do I not let that affect me? And she goes, 656 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: you have to listen to your body. She's like your body. 657 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want you to lose that piece 658 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: of that that piece of anxiety or that. She's like, 659 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: because you're there's like that book to like your body 660 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: keeps score. Your body is going to tell you when 661 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: something doesn't feel safe or doesn't feel right or doesn't 662 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: feel She's like, that's what you need to listen to. 663 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: So now my body is telling me something. But is 664 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: it just like this? Am I crazy? And then also 665 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like, it's just gonna crash and burn? 666 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 1: And but it's weird to me because I'm like, do 667 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: I I feel stupid saying it feels different? And then 668 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be like, oh no, that's or is 669 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: that just life and things like that happen. If that happens, well, 670 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: I think it's just life. But I think you need 671 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: to look. I think you need to have a positive 672 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 1: outlook on any dating relationship honestly, instead of just assuming 673 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: it's going to crash and burn. I think it's a 674 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: testament to your heart. Like the thing that I've always 675 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: loved about you, even when we met a million years ago, 676 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: seventeen chapters ago, God, we've really been through it. I 677 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: just I've always just enjoyed how genuine your heart is. 678 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: And actually on the way here, I was voiced memo 679 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: and a girlfriend and I was like, I think you 680 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: and I was what I said in the in the message, 681 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: I was like, I think you and I and I 682 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: actually said in Jianna Kramer are the only hopeless romantics 683 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: left in the world, Like there's just something about believing 684 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: in it that I refuse to let go of. And 685 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: when things get discouraging to me in my own personal life, 686 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: and I don't feel the hopeless romantic Like that's why 687 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 1: London meant something to me, because I was like, wait, 688 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like it's like you have to travel 689 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: far enough to get away from the noise for a 690 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: minute so you can just see each other. But like 691 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,919 Speaker 1: loving and wanting to love is the bravest human thing. 692 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: It just is. So even if it doesn't work out, 693 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: who cares? Like that pure hearted like want to go 694 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: in and maybe find out and kiss a face and 695 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: hear an accent and see where it lands. And I 696 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: have some good movie material for my next lifetimes and 697 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: eat endless amazing French fries, like do it and do 698 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: it for everybody that just is too skeptical to step 699 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: out of their house. Keep doing it because it's inspiring 700 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: to people that you just don't stop and okay, okay, 701 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: And I mean that like from my heart. That's not 702 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: maybeing a people Like I'm just saying, like go be 703 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: the brave heart because we all need to see that 704 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: people can crash and burnt. Oh, I can't wait. Where 705 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: will the wedding be. I just need to be the 706 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 1: fly on the wall here, like I want to be there. 707 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: I think you're right I should. Just it's really crazy 708 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: though that I said that, And um, let's just keep 709 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: note of that. Yeah. I don't think it's naive. I 710 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: think your intuition is great. You've grown your intuition and 711 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: you've listened to yourself so well over the last year 712 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: and a half. You're doing the work to listen to 713 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: you to know what you need to not be afraid 714 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: to be alone on your birthday crying in a closet, Like, 715 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: let's just celebrate and have the time of your life. 716 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: Life is short. Yeah, well that and that's the thing. 717 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, life is so short. I'm gonna go and 718 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: have a great time. If it doesn't whatever, I just 719 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 1: I will say though, it feels nice to feel different 720 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: something and different. That's all say, and that is enough 721 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: for all of us. But it's just it's kind of 722 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: like it's I was telling my friend Lisa um Turkis, 723 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: I was like, it just feels nice to just feel 724 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: that and whether it doesn't work out, it says it's nice, 725 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: it's nice, Yeah, it's nice. So I followed Butterflies all 726 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: the way to London. I had this moment, I don't 727 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: want to talk to you too too much, but you 728 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 1: like this, I think, okay. So I was like, God, 729 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: I need a sign because I'm just really overwhelmed with 730 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: the leaving and the trap and what am I doing? 731 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: And I feel like the stupid girl that even though 732 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: he's my husband, like I was like leaving kids and 733 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 1: it felt far and I'm like, what am I doing? 734 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: And so I was like, I really need a sign. 735 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: And then I had this moment where I remembered when 736 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 1: pressed I'm speed dating because I don't want to bore anybody, 737 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: But at this moment where I was like when we 738 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: met we talked, he said I was a butterfly in 739 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: a cage, or I was a butterfly that got cotton 740 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: net and someone put me in a jar, and I 741 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: didn't deserve to have a lid put on my jar, 742 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: and that he was going to take the lid off 743 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: and it was going to be a lidless life. And 744 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: that was our big motto for like the first couple 745 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: of years of our relationship, lidless life. Okay, lots of 746 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: other really beautiful details in there. We'll safe. So I'm 747 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: getting ready at the day I'm supposed to leave for London. 748 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm like anxiety written might have taken half a ziccau 749 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: is not gonna lie just to like get my nervous 750 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: system back to like where I could operate like a 751 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 1: normal human. And I'm stating the stop light and I 752 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: was like, okay, God, I need a sign, like if 753 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to go to London now. Our couple's therapist 754 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: has said, I need you to to chase each other. 755 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: That was one thing he kept saying, I want you 756 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 1: guys to just lean into chasing each other a little, 757 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: because we're both a little stubborn and we both kind 758 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: of go to our own corners. Sitting at the stoplight 759 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: and like, give me a sign, no joke too. Butterflies 760 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: hit my windshield chasing each other and fly off, and 761 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: I was like, following the butterflies. I get to the airport. 762 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: There's a butterfly in the airport. When does that happen? 763 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: It be it doesn't. And every time I got scared, 764 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: I followed a butterfly, and I followed the butterflies all 765 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: through London in Paris, and it follow your butterflies, Cramer, Butterflies. 766 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: It's a fun that. I'm just like, when is he 767 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: gonna But you know what, none of this is even 768 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 1: about him, know, it's really just about you anyways. It's 769 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: your experience. You get to go live London the way 770 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: you want to make out a couple of times, have 771 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: the time in your life following Butterflies. It's going to 772 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: be good. It's going to be good. H Well we 773 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: made it third episode. Not crying I almost did, but happy. Yeah, 774 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm just proud of you. You guys, what a season. 775 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: Kat gets to spend a season with your family. Yeah, 776 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to be calling you from London and being 777 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: like I need to get home right, I'm going to 778 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: be It's fine. I'll be ready to go absolutely, Catherine. 779 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: I would. I mean, I don't have a prescription, but 780 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: I'll work. I'll know. I thought you have some here. 781 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: I thought you meant like to London, should see me. 782 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: If if I just dad have xan X on the 783 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: end here, I'll ship it to you. I will have 784 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: flight options ready to go. But if I have to 785 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: fly to London to get you, you know I will. Okay, 786 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna have it's gonna be even gonna hear from you. 787 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: I have a couple of places I need you to 788 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: go that are just like really fun and take you 789 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: so into another place. It's going to be so good. Okay, yeah, okay, 790 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: guys kiss. We're gonna have another episode before we go 791 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,439 Speaker 1: to London, so we've got other stuff to chat about. 792 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: But until then, ah, happy holidays, whatever that means for you.