1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody. Friday edition of Clay and Buck kicks 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: off now our man play out for the day on Roots. Actually, 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: I believe he's already landing in Israel. He'll be coming 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: to us live from Israel next week and I'll be 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: here stateside, so having a conversation halfway around the world 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: with our buddy Clay. He'll be bringing us bround truth 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: about what's going on over there with Israel surrounded by 8 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: enemies like Hamas and Hesblaw, though it has taken the 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: fight to them as we know over the last year, 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: and the situation on the ground has improved in terms 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: of Israeli security dramatically. So we'll be discussing that next week. Today, 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: though really the whole focus is going to be on 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: what's happening here at home. Some updates on the assassination 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: of the United Healthcare CEO. This has turned into an 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: internet sleuthing phenomenon. Everyone trying to figure out, based on 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: the photo release, based on the city bike path of 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: his escape, who this guy is. Are they ever gonna 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: catch him? Is he a professional or not? These are 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: all conversations that are ongoing. We will get into some 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: of this mayor Eric Adams. A lot of New York 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: on my mind right now. Mayor Eric Adams seems to 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: leave open the possibility that he's gonna be willing to 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: work with Republicans a whole lot more than anybody anticipated 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: in this incoming administration. I see, I'm telling you, Once 25 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: the Feds are set on you by Democrats for partisan reasons, 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Republicans still look so scary, right, 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the incoming Trump administration looks like 28 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: there somebody might want to extend a hand to I 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: think this opportunity from Mayor Eric Adams for Trump, or 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: maybe the opportunity from Trump to Mayor Eric Adams could 31 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: be fortune for America's largest city, in my hometown of 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: many decades. So we will dive into some of what 33 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: he says there. A little sad for those of us 34 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: who enjoy looking at the firearms reviews and the steak 35 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: cooking tips on TikTok, A federal judge has now ruled 36 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: that a ban or sale law of TikTok is able 37 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: to go through. So the appeals court upheld a nationwide 38 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: ban or sale law for TikTok. Look as long as 39 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: TikTok stays. I think that's a good thing. I think 40 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: that Trump administration is going to be in a position 41 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: to both cut off the threats of Chinese spying through 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: the app, but also let's put some pressure on TikTok 43 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: to be a transparent and free speech platform. No, none 44 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: of this fraudulent democrat activist stuff of oh, we just 45 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: have a terms in service, but we can't tell you 46 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: anything about what's really going on, because as we know, 47 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: the power of these social media platforms is massive. I 48 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: think we might have had a very different election. I 49 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: don't know what it would have meant, but I think 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: things would have been very different, certainly in the coverage 51 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: of this last election, if you did not have x 52 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: Elon Musk's X formerly Twitter as a true free speech platform. 53 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: Because they could not suppress, they could not shut down, 54 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: and once the information's out there reaches critical mass on 55 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: x it ends up being something you'll see covered by 56 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: other news organizations. They can't just ignore it, they can't 57 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: just suppress it, so it has a huge impact on 58 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: the political and cultural conversation. So we'll discuss that. I 59 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: also think we are likely to see a verdict in 60 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: the Daniel Penny case. Today, the Daniel Penny case has 61 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: been taken to the jury. The jury is currently in 62 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: the process of deciding Daniel Penny's fate. They are deadlocked. 63 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: And so here's what I know about this so far. 64 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: There's it's a little bit confusing. I was trying to 65 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: look this up, speak to some legal expert friends of 66 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: mine get a sense as to there's really two variations 67 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: of manslaughter that are at issue here. The top count 68 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: is a reckless manslaughter count, and this very state to state, 69 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: and the language the way the statutes are crafted varies 70 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: state to state. But there's also the lesser count of 71 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: a involuntary manslaughter effectively, right, that's so, and you can say, well, 72 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: reckless manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter out of these things. You have 73 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: to get pretty deep into the statue to see the 74 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: legal distinction, the distinction in terms of a sentence, and 75 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: could be very seriou uh. And and that assumes that 76 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: he's found guilty on either of them. My concern here 77 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: has been and I know we had Uncle Bill, we 78 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: had Bill O'Reilly with us, and he's confident nearly I mean, 79 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry a penny. Rather, he's confident Penny is going 80 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: to get off. Jordan nearly was the individual who lost 81 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: his life in this exchange, who was who was killed 82 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: when h or Or died as a result of it 83 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: is true that he was alive when police arrived to 84 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: revive him, which I think has not gotten nearly enough 85 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: attention and news coverage. So you know, he had a pulse, 86 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: he was breathing when the police got there, and so 87 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: there's there's been a lot of of back and forth 88 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: between the Penny team and the prosecution over really was 89 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: what was was the cause of death solely the application 90 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: of force around the neck or the fact that he 91 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: was a I believe a schizophrenic and was already had 92 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: serious health issues and was going into a panic and 93 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: then also with the force. Anyway, this this jury is 94 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: going to be making a big decision here, and I 95 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: think they'll be making it today and probably while we're 96 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: on air, so we will follow that very closely. And 97 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: I just think that no matter what happens here, the 98 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: reason that there's such a focus, whether there's a not 99 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: guilty verdict or a guilty verdict that comes out of 100 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: the Penny case, the reason that there's such a focus on. 101 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: It is that there really was a period of time 102 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: a terror in this country and it was led by 103 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: these ideological democrat often in fact back by George Soros organizations, 104 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: so they are Soros prosecutors. This was the case in 105 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco, in Philadelphia, in New York. You know, you 106 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: go down list in LA. I mean, all these major cities, 107 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: in Chicago, all these major cities have these prosecutors who 108 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: who are who are funded by and supported by the 109 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: most radical left wing, really fundamentally Marxist and racial Marxist 110 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: entities in this country who decided that we just need 111 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: to have more crime to achieve more social justice because 112 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: the people who disproportionately commit crimes are non white. Therefore 113 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: we have to change the way that prosecutions happen, less 114 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: people in prison. In fact, the ultimate goal, as you know, 115 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: and you can find this, they won't talk about it 116 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: that much. They ran with the defund police thing for 117 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: a while because that gave them some wiggle room. What 118 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: does defund mean, Well, it doesn't mean gone entirely, but 119 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: that really would be the ultimate goal. The ultimate goal 120 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: on prisons is abolished prisons, which sounds insane because it is, 121 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: but that is what they would like to see. These 122 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: radical left criminal justice reformers do not believe that those 123 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: who commit crimes should be incarceration, and they talk about 124 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: things like restorative justice anybody, which is an absurdity. I 125 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: might add, anybody who has spent time in around the 126 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: criminal justice system knows there are people who are a 127 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: danger to the public, and there are people who have 128 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: done who have chosen to do bad things to other people, 129 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,559 Speaker 1: and there are real victims, and they need to be 130 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: taken out of circulation on the street for many years, 131 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: perhaps the rest of their lives. And if you don't 132 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: do that, you get the Lake and Riley situation, for example, 133 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: and that also adds the illegal illegal alien component. But 134 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 1: you get somebody who finally they do something so heinous 135 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: and so awful to an American that we go, okay, well, 136 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: now they've got to go to prison for a long time. 137 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: But they should have been in prison before that, and 138 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: they should have been expelled before that. The failures of 139 00:08:53,880 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: the criminal justice system itself results in real victim When 140 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: the justice system does not function as it is supposed to, 141 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: as it promises, it has a sacred obligation. You know, 142 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: there's a reason why we have all these laws to 143 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: take a place like New York State, for example, you know, oh, 144 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: you can't carry your own weapon. You can't even have 145 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: a gravity knife, which is a don't start sending me 146 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: your definitions of oh what's as it's a vague definition 147 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: on purpose, right, But you can't even have certain blades 148 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: on you in order to defend yourself in New York City. 149 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: You can't. I think you can't even carry pepper spray 150 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: in New York City. There's all these because the state's 151 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: going to defend you. So you are, by the power 152 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: of the state, threatened to be incarcerated yourself if you 153 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: wish to defend yourself, if you wish to take your 154 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: own defense into your hands. By the way, as a citizen, 155 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: every citizen, every human being, has the right to self defense. 156 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: It is a god given right. It is not a 157 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: state given right. But New York says, no, you can't 158 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: defend yourself with any of these tools that would make 159 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: it a lot easier. We will defend you, we will 160 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: protect you. And this is the same conversation in California, 161 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: and the same conversation in all of these states that 162 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: have been overtaken by this radical left wing ideology. But 163 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: what happens, not only is it going to be imperfect, 164 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: which that is a certainty, right, They're not going to 165 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: be able to protect everybody all the time. We know that, 166 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: and we actually can't demand perfect security from the state. 167 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: But they fell into a period of recklessness. And it 168 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: was because of the George Floyd riots. It was because 169 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: of BLM two point zero. A decision was made. A 170 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: psychological pandemic took over the country, or at least those 171 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: who are in charge of prosecuting and enforcing the law, 172 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: and Democrats a lot of who went along with this stuff, 173 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: even you know everyday folks. The decision was made that 174 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: we're just going to have to allow more of this 175 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: to happen because that will be more socially just eventually 176 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: we will be a more harmonious country if we don't 177 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: punish those who are being predatory against their fellow human 178 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: beings more severely. Whether it's this stealing, this kind of 179 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: retail organized retail theft they call it, which is just 180 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: you know, this is career criminal conduct. Just keep going 181 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: and stealing, stealing tens of thousands of dollars at a time, 182 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: that's from the Department source things that we've seen, or 183 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: individuals who are violent for no reason with somebody. If 184 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: you're violent with somebody for no reason on the street 185 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: and it's because you are mentally ill, it is incumbent 186 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: upon the state to take you off the street until 187 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: there is a high degree of certainty that your mental 188 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: illness will not result in further violence like this. And again, 189 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I am well aware that you know, less than one 190 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: percent of people who have any form of mental illness 191 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: are violent. But we got three hundred and fifty million 192 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: people in this country. So if it's one percent, that's 193 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot of violence, right Or even if it's one 194 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: hundredth of one percent, it's a lot of violence. You 195 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: have to deal with that. You look at the statistics 196 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: in New York City, and there have been an op 197 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: eds the Wall Street Journal and elsewhere. If you took 198 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: about three or four thousand people who are career criminals 199 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: truly out of circulation, meaning they are incarcerated, they are 200 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: now semi permanent guests of the state, you would reduce 201 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: violent crime effectively overnight, at least for the purposes of 202 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: this analysis, by sixty or seventy percent. These options are 203 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: out there Giuliani did this over a period of years 204 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: in New York City. There isn't some big mystery, but 205 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: decisions were made. Deblasio, a vile ideologue, a communist to 206 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: his core, and many others along with them, decided, in 207 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: my city, we're going to be first and foremost sympathy 208 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: with the criminal. Not why they did this thing, or 209 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: rather not what they did and how it affects that person, 210 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: but why they did this thing in the first place. 211 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: What are the root causes? Root causes? Well, we can 212 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: do root causes all day, unless you're Hunter Biden. Try 213 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: explaining the root cause of you choosing not to pay 214 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: your taxes while they're locking you up in a cell. 215 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: It's remarkable, isn't it that the law claims to have 216 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: in these places the right to your property and the 217 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: right to your freedom at its whim, while also telling 218 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: you that, look, some people who do really bad stuff 219 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: they should be able to walk free. Jordan Neely was 220 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: terrorizing people on the subway when Daniel Penny stepped in 221 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: after walking up to an Asian woman on a subway 222 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: platform some months before, punching her in the face for 223 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: no reason, breaking her eye socket broke bones. I mean, 224 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: imagine you're that woman. Imagine you're that woman's husband or 225 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: brother or father. And this has happened to friends of 226 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: mine in New York City. This has happened. This happened 227 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: to me in New York City. I'm I haven't punched 228 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: in the face by somebody, but I've been threatened it. 229 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: I've had lunatics say they're gonna stab me, and I've 230 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: had a guy take out as Genitalia and I, you know, 231 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: uh like, You're like, WHOA, what do I you know? 232 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: You just get out of there as fast as you can. 233 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: Lunatics running around, lunatics running around, and a former marine 234 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: steps in and says, enough enough of this. The state 235 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: has failed to protect the people, the good people of 236 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: New York City, so I will step in to protect them. 237 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: And people on the subway car have said it, and 238 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: other people joined in to help him. This wasn't racism, 239 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: This wasn't some guy acting like a fake tough guy. 240 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: This was I was trained as a marine to stand 241 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: up for those who can't stand up for themselves, and 242 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: not to wait until it's too late. And now the 243 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: city of New York, this jury is deciding his fate 244 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: The implications of this for the cun for the months 245 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: and years ahead under this Trump administration, I think are 246 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: profound because it is a symbol. Have we reached a 247 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: point of change or not? Is there an understanding? Look? 248 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: Do I wish that Jordan Neely was alive? Absolutely? Yes, 249 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: this was an unfortunate situation. He did not mean to 250 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: kill him, but he was right to step in, and 251 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: he was right to lay hands on this guy because 252 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to go on a subway and tell 253 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: everybody I'm going to kill you, which is what he said. 254 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: And I'm ready to go to prison for it. So 255 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: a lot riding on this. We may get a verdict 256 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: while we're on air. Also want to take your calls 257 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: on it. 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We could have a jury verdict 277 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: imminently during the show today. I think it's highly likely. 278 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: If not, we may see this get dragged into next week. 279 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: One thing that is a noteworthy here is the family 280 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: of Jordan Neely. The father of homeless Jordan Neely has 281 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: now come forward to sue Daniel Penny, which is his 282 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: legal right as a next of kin. And I guess 283 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: this is just he's the guy. Whatever the estate is, 284 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: he's now now his a state and it's his son. 285 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: But there are people asking questions like where were you 286 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: and this guy was living on the streets is a schizophrenic. 287 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: It was noted by people on the subway that it 288 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: seemed like he had not been he had not been 289 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: bathed or bathed himself in a long time, that he 290 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: was clearly in extreme distress, that he was a basically 291 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: a crazy person who was in need of tremendous help. 292 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: Where was the dad all this time while some was homeless? 293 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: He shows up now he wants a check. 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Actually you know what before 316 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: I move on to the United Healthcare ceo assassination, which 317 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: is a shocking story and quite a who done it. 318 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: At this point, we've got photos that have been shared 319 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: of the individual, a really interesting anecdote about why we 320 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: have those photos, which I will get to more details 321 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: on the material that he used and the travel that 322 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: this assassin engaged in. I mean, a guy using a 323 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: silence pistol to murder the CEO of Buy Revenue, I think, 324 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: the fourth largest company in America by revenue, not by profit. 325 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: That's not something you see every day. Thankfully, right next 326 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: to our New York City studio. If I'll tell you this, 327 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: if he hadn't had a silencer on it, and my 328 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: crew in New York had been in the studio, they 329 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: would have heard the gunshot. Okay, that's how close it 330 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: is to our people there in New York City. Well, 331 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: I know, if it was a twenty two, maybe not. 332 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: But if it was a nine millimeter, oh yeah, that 333 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: crack where they are, they would have heard that. We're 334 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: looking at that. But first, I want to take a 335 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: couple of calls on the Penny issue, because to me, 336 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: this is we've just got a matter of hours, maybe 337 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: a matter of minutes before we find out what the 338 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: jury verdict is. So this is imminent. Kim in Saint 339 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Louis wants to talk about the Daniel Penny situation. What 340 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: have you got for me, Kim? 341 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: I don't understand why this man is being prosecuted. He 342 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: is a hero. He put his life on the line 343 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 3: to save other people's lives from this person that shouldn't 344 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: even have been out on the streets in public. I 345 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 3: can't wrap my head around our judicial system going after 346 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: this man. He's a hero. Why are they a sitting 347 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: here trying to take and put him in jail for 348 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: protecting other people. I don't understand it. 349 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: You know, if it were a a different city, a 350 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: different set of prosecutors, Kim, I think that there's a 351 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: chance they wouldn't have brought this case at all. And 352 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: it's it's really sad to say, but I think it's 353 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: true to say that if Penny had been a black unit, 354 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: if Penny had been a black United States Marine and 355 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: Newly had been a criminal and you know, dangerous schizophrenic 356 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: white guy, New York City would probably view this case 357 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: very The prosecutors would treat this case very differently. I 358 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: think we all recognize that it's because of the racial 359 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: angle that they have decided to go. Remember, they're going 360 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: with a top count that could put him in prison 361 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: for fifteen years. Fifteen years. And if you look and 362 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: see what plea bargains are offered by these Soros prosecutors 363 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: for gang for gang members who you know, shoot somebody 364 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: in an attempted murder or something. You know, it's Kim, 365 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm with you in that it seems to defy logic 366 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: or a defy justice on level. But this is the 367 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: politics of a city. Thank you for calling of New 368 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: York City. Thank you for calling in and Saint Louis, 369 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: I might add, is a city that had the prosecutor 370 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: there also Soros backed super high crime rate there by 371 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: the way, But they were thinking about prosecuting the the couple, 372 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: the husband and wife who had the guns in front 373 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: while the BLM march was you know, ominously, uh you know, 374 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: trapesing through the neighborhood. They they had their their legally 375 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: owned firearms out and they were gonna charge them, I 376 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: think with brandishing or something like that. 377 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: Ed. 378 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: In Grand Rapids, Michigan, an attorney and a police officer ed, 379 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: what have you got for us? 380 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I see it from from both different 381 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 4: from both sides. I work as a defense attorney but 382 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: also as a police officer, and unfortunately they're doing the 383 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: same thing here in Michigan. Our Attorney general is very 384 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: anti police, and there are multiple police officers who stood up, 385 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 4: did their job heroically, and unfortunately the outcome is oftentimes 386 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 4: it's race, a white cop and a dead black guy, 387 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 4: and unfortunately they're getting they're getting prosecutor right now, we've 388 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 4: got several of them. They should be giving these guides awards. 389 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: Same thing with Daniel Penny, the prosecutor should give them award. 390 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 4: They have the discretion not to prosecute, and their job 391 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 4: is to seek justice, not seek prosecutions or convictions. 392 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: Yes, and that sometimes I think people thank you so 393 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 1: much for calling in. I think people lose side of 394 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: that when they talk about the lawyers and prosecutors in 395 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: the legal system. There is this notion that, well, that's 396 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: what has to happen because that's what the system says, 397 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: and it's just hold on, this is the justice system. 398 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: It is supposed to do. What is justin should be 399 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: recognizable by the public as such, right, which is why 400 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,959 Speaker 1: for example, Donald Trump being found guilty of thirty seven 401 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: felonies felonies. You have to remember this wasn't even missing 402 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: felonies because they elevated it because they created some because 403 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: of how he listed a payment that was a legal 404 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: payment for an NDA in internal business documents. This is 405 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: giving somebody thirty seven felonies for you know, buying an 406 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: ice cream cone and having the top scoop fall off 407 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: and saying, oh, you know, look what you did environmental waste. 408 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: You're environmental terrorists. Now thirty seven felonies. It's insane, it's insane, 409 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: and they did it to the incoming president of the 410 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: United States. Every time something like this is done by 411 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: these leftist radicals. Every time something like this happens, it 412 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: undermines the public's faith in the government, which is supposed 413 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: to have takes upon itself a monopoly of force in 414 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: order to to protect the people and to have a 415 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: rule of law that we all understand and believe in 416 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: and support. When they do this crazy stuff, when they 417 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: decide that, well, I like you, but I don't like you, 418 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: so we're gonna treat you under the law differently, people 419 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: view this and they say to themselves, this system is crap. 420 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: There's something rotten. There's something wrong here which brings me, 421 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: by the way, and I'll talk about it. It's why 422 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: people want Pete Hegseth that the Pentagon, It's why people 423 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: want cash matell at the FBI, including me, want these 424 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: guys at these places, including Clay, like, well, this is 425 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: Trump's team going forward. He needs people who are going 426 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: to go in and say the worst thing that the 427 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: FBI can do in some ways is use its powers 428 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: to go after non criminal conduct by people who are 429 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: politically disfavored. Now, that's almost worse than the FBI just 430 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, deciding they're going to cut their arrest down 431 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: in half when they go after you know, because they're 432 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: to when they go after innocent people because they don't 433 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: like them, or because people at the top don't like them, 434 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: don't like what they stand for, you can't have faith 435 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: in the rest of the system. And this is a 436 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: system that says it will send men and women with 437 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: guns to your home at you know, five o'clock in 438 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: the morning with your wife and children sleeping, you know, 439 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: because of insider trading, or because of you know, you 440 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: didn't pay your taxes, or because in the case people 441 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: say they don't do that buck, they let you surrender. 442 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: And if you're a political target, just ask Roger Stone, 443 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: do you remember that they sent in the law enforcement 444 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: equivalent of Sealed Team six, practically Rogers walking around in 445 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: his velvet slippers and his silk pajamas, like, what the 446 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: heck are you guys doing here? They got long guns. 447 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: They got because they said that he said something about 448 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: his non criminal conduct with regard to Trump and that 449 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: that was not true. I mean, the whole thing was insane. 450 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: You remember this, and I remember this, But the state 451 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: wants to tell you that Donald Trump is a thirty 452 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: seven time felon. The state wants to tell you. The 453 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: state wants to tell you of New York that Daniel 454 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: Penny is a manslaughterer, which is effectively a murderer. That's 455 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: what they want you to believe. And this is something 456 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: that a lot of us, I think, see with the 457 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: disdain that it deserves. And it's ideologically based. This is 458 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: here's a perfect example of how you can see how 459 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: differently things are treated. I remember, this is all ultimately 460 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: about rule of law, a norms based society, trust in 461 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: law enforcement, trust in the judicial process. This is fundamentally 462 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: a perception thing, right. You know, if you live in 463 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: a country and there are countries like this, I mean, 464 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: for example, Mexico is one of them where people just 465 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: believe that if someone commits a crime, the chance they're 466 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: going to be held accountable is almost zero. It's true. 467 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: That is the way that people go about their lives 468 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: in Mexico. Overall, there are other countries like this as well, 469 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: and that has effects on everything, has effects on productivity, 470 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: has effects on the economy, has effects on the mental 471 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,719 Speaker 1: health of the population, right, and I know, like Mexico 472 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: City is a really fun destination to visit for people 473 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: these days. And there's beautiful places in Mexico. I'm not 474 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: saying the whole place is some dystopia, but rule of 475 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: law is really different. And you know, we're a heck 476 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: of a lot wealthier as a country and a heck 477 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: of a lot safer overall as a country than a 478 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: lot of the provinces in Mexico that have been overtaken 479 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: by a tremendous violence. Same thing in different countries like Venezuela, 480 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: South America or States of Mexico, I should say they 481 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: have been overtaken by violence. So this stuff all matters. 482 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: The public's belief that the system is legitimate matters. And 483 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: this is also why Trump the incoming team the people 484 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: he wants to put in place holding the system to account, 485 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: which means in some cases taking the system and kind 486 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: of punching it in the face a few times. Not 487 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: just saying, hey, how do you guys do things here? 488 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: How have things been this whole time? No, treat things 489 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: as though they have been going off the rails and 490 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: they need to be fixed. That is critical at this juncture. 491 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean, another example I mentioned yesterday, this report about 492 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: how the Memphis Police Department is so racist. I mean, 493 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: that's what the report is saying. A DOJ report, They 494 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: want to put it under a consent decree. Why do 495 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: they think the Memphis Police Department is so racist? Because 496 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: it arrests and then there's prosecution of too many black 497 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: individuals in Memphis. That is the reason. Okay, Now you 498 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: might say to yourself, hold on, are these people innocent? 499 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: So is the city of Memphis concocting these crimes or mete? 500 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: And that would be quite strange considering that more than 501 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: half of the Memphis Police Department are black men and women, 502 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: and the person who runs the Memphis Police Department is 503 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: a black woman. I think it's fair to assume that 504 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: if the black female police chief running the Memphis PDE 505 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: thought that her officers were faking crimes to arrest black 506 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: residents out of racism, you know, I think she would 507 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: step in and do something about that. 508 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 4: Right. 509 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: Can we all just agree that's likely. I think that 510 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: the rank and file police officer. You know, my uncle 511 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: was a career cop. LAPD worked in a couple of 512 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: other jurisdictions as well. You know, a lot of cops 513 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: are great people. We have a ton of cops who 514 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: listen to this show. And without you, by the way, 515 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: it is the purge, So thank you, without you doing 516 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: your jobs. We need Daniel Pennies to step up, right. 517 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: It's all connected. All of this relates one into the 518 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: other rule of law, the way that prosecutors wield their power. 519 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: Do people feel safe in major urban areas where there 520 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: are a lot of people together? Do they feel safe? 521 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: Yes or no? Is the justice system fair to individuals 522 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: based on conduct? Yes or no? I mentioned Memphis Police Department, 523 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols. Tyree Nichols was it was horrible. It was 524 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: beaten to death by five black cops. Seems as clear 525 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: cut a case of police brutality, which is fortunately very rare, 526 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: but it is real, right, a little bit like a 527 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: shark attack in that it's very rare, but when it happens, 528 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: it's awful, right, it's you know, it's very it's a 529 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: horrible thing, but it's rare police brutality that results in 530 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: a fatality. Is it is actually along the lines of 531 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: by the numbers, something like you know, shark attacks or 532 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: you know death by uh, you know, you're you're talking 533 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: about in any given year, about a dozen is what 534 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: they estimate according to Washington Post. So you know, do 535 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: the math on that, right, But the Tyree Nichols case 536 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: where we're all the where we're all the riots and 537 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 1: then we're the all the rage. No, it was it 538 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: was the Derek Chauvin case with George Floyd that created this, 539 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, this race riot revolution across America, and with 540 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: and with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer kneeling with the 541 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: Kenta cloth around their necks, and the Capitol and FBI 542 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: officers and and cops across the country, a lot of them, 543 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: not all of them, kneeling in solidarity, kneeling in solidarity. 544 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: This was insane. This was insane, and I think people 545 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: have reached a point where they have had enough of this. 546 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: Not everybody, but a majority of us. I think we 547 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: see enough is enough. Equal treatment under the law means 548 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: equal treatment under the law. We don't make distinctions based 549 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: upon historical injustice to one group or another when it 550 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: comes to criminal conduct. And we'll see if this is 551 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 1: what ends up being the being the case in New 552 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: York City and the Daniel Penny case, and we'll dive 553 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: back into this. I will talk about the United healthcare 554 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: CEO assassination coming up here. I do think it's what's 555 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: fascinating about it. 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