WEBVTT - Caelynn Bares All 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:05.240 Hell I Suck a Dating with Jared Haven and I 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:12.920 heard radio podcast What is Up? Sucky Daters. Welcome to 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:17.720 the newest installment of Help I Suck at Dating. Dean 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:22.280 Anglert here joined. Jared is not in his wife's glam 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:25.200 room today. It looks like he is in the living room. Yeah, oh, 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:27.040 I guess you're not. You're not. You're on the East Coast, 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:28.720 in the East Coast right now. It's a blizzard outside. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:34.120 It's pretty awesome. Oct nice Jared is reporting him from 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.400 the East Coast. I am currently in Los Angeles at 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.280 Keitlan's apartment. We got a great episode for you guys today. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.680 As we mentioned last week, Jared handily destroyed me in 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:47.200 fantasy football. I think it was who was it, Josh 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.040 Kelly or Singletary who just put up? I think everybody. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:52.920 I think it was everybody on your team sucked and 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:57.600 everybody on my team did. P day. God, yeah, I'm 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.400 very middling in that league. I think I'm three and 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.000 four and it's just like I've got no prospects. My 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:07.280 team is bad. Anyways, we agreed that my punishment would 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:11.040 be to have Kaylin, my girlfriend, as we all know, 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.600 be a guest on this podcast. And the reason it's 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.360 a punishment because you might be thinking to yourself, why 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:20.319 would a punishment entailed Dan just bring his girlfriend the podcast, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.399 Because yeah, it really does. Because when Caitlin and I 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.120 first started dating, I was very clear that her and 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.800 I would never do a joint interview together. And granted, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.240 a podcast is not an interview, especially like when I'm 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:37.040 the host that when we're the hosts of it. Uh, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:41.120 but this, I guess would be our first ever like 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:46.160 media appearance together, and like whatever, it's it's fine. I 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.840 think we're long enough removed to just to kind of 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:50.760 take the plunge. I think it's about the time that 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:53.120 you guys do something, some sort of joint interview together. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:55.600 I was gonna ask you you both, but I'll ask 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.480 you right now. What was it about not doing an 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.440 interview together or not having her on the podcast? I 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.639 think in the past. And I'm sure you can attest 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.760 to this as well. Is being in like public relationships, 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.400 people will like pick and prod every little bit of 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.640 an interaction that you might have with like your significant 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.919 other during an interview, so like they'll like read into 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.320 your body language, they'll read into like the little inside 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.359 jokes that you're in but they're not in, and they'll 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.880 take it to an incredible extreme. Uh. I've had it 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:27.520 negatively impact my relationships in the past, and so I 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.160 think I was just like protecting this relationship and I 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:34.960 still am obviously. Uh, but it's just yeah, outsiders looking 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.520 in and it's just like it didn't really ever in 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.360 my opinion, interviews as couples never really do anything positive 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.280 for the couple. It just only leads to like negativity. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.560 So like you and Caitlin were in such a different 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.320 spot last year than you are now. You guys have 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.320 been dating for Jesus almost two years now. At the 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.880 time you just got off Paradise, you were living in 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.560 a van, who knew of what was going to be 0:02:57.600 --> 0:02:59.760 happening in the future, Like there were some question marks 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:03.640 to be I totally get it. Well. Yeah, And a 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.400 big part of it too, is my humor or lack thereof, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:09.720 is very like sarcastic and dry, and so it's like 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.840 all that crack a joke that Klin like fully understands 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.040 because we spend every waking moment together, but some on 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:19.000 listener has never heard this stupid humor that I have 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.560 and they take it and it's been and run with 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.240 it in a wround direction. So because of all that stuff, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.600 I've kind of like avoided the whole situation. But uh, 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.040 the last it's all come to ahead day of reckoning 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.760 has come, my friend. But it's like what it's like, 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.040 who cares? It's just you or it's not even an interview, 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.080 it's just you're talking to the two of us at all. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.400 And I can't think this is even being defined as 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.960 a punishment. This is ridiculous. I should have, like I 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:45.520 should have taken your over, your Instagram over for a day. 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.960 That would have been a true punishment. I could have 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.800 promoted my my short film and you have way more 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.200 followers and me some damn it, I should have done that. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.400 The funny thing about that is I was telling Kalin. 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:56.960 I was like, hey, so you're gonna have to be 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.440 a guest on the podcast next week. She goes like, oh, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.760 why I do I have to? Like why? What? What's 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.160 the reason for all of a sudden you want me 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.960 as a guest? And I was like, well, I lost 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.040 to Jared. He gave me two punishments. One of them 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.000 was too he would take over my Instagram for a day. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.240 And immediately after I finished that sentence, she was like, oh, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.400 so you obviously went with the other one. Like she 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:17.720 was like, she was like, not in a million years 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.400 would you let anyone take over. It's so funny how 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.080 we're also protective of our Instagrams. Like I'm the same way. 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.280 If given the two choices, I would have totally had 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.960 Ashley on the podcast rather than someone taken over my Instagram. 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:30.320 I don't know, it's very it feels very violating for 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.080 some reason. And it's so silly too, because it's like, 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.440 what is Instagram? If it's just like a picture of 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.599 sharing platform. It's like, who, who the heck cares about 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.600 what Instagram? And I know you know, but we are 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.560 like so protective of it. It just really shows that 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.800 the social dilemma is a very real thing and we're 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.400 all screwed um before we get to Kaitlin, though, we 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.800 do have a hot topic to talk about. If they're 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.840 called hoppy, I'm just I'm literally ripping that rate out 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.359 of almost famous because I hear Ashley say that hot 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.000 topics guys. But I came across this car article and 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.440 I thought it was pretty funny. It was a People 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:04.400 article about Jane Fonda. Do you know who Jane Fonda is, Dane? Uh? 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:08.480 I know she was in a like a Mike Posner song, 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.960 or do the Jane Fonda right? I have no idea 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.120 what Posner? It's someone else. I got no idea what 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.760 you're talking about. But Jane Fonda is an actress in Hollywood. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.720 She's a D two scause she's a little bit older, 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.200 but she was not recently on The Ellen de Generous Show, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.240 where the guest host Tiffany Hattrish asked her, uh if 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.240 she's still having sex because she looks so good for 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.520 a D two. So Tiffany Hattes said, are you having 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.320 like crazy sex? And Jane Fonda said, no, I don't 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.080 have time to that. I'm old and I've had so 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.359 much of it that I don't need any more sex 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.039 in my life. I'm too busy right now. So my 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:40.840 question is, Dan, do you think you're ever going to 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:42.960 get a place in your life where you're just like 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.599 I truly don't need to ever have sex again? Or 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:50.279 are you there? We all I think we all kind 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.880 of get there at some point, don't we. I don't know. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.960 That's a tough question. I feel like it's funny because 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:58.719 I feel like that's like the driving mode, Like that's 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.560 at the core of everything that we do if you 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.359 really think about it. H and so it's hard to 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.760 imagine where that's like not a motivating factor, but I 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.200 would say probably at some point that's pretty funny. Eighty 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.360 two is pretty old and like she's probably got a point, 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.920 like she's got more important things to focus on, because 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:17.640 you know, who the heck has time for that any 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.200 I gotta be honest on this trajectory that I'm currently on. 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.040 If Ashley and I are still having sex, like after 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.719 fifty eight, I'm feeling pretty good. Yeah, absolutely, just like 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.920 a couple of times a year called it good. I mean, 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:32.520 I'm thirty one now, and it's like, listen, it's still great. 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.880 But Ashley and I we were pretty self deprecating about 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.520 it because sometimes it's like, all right, should we like 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:41.599 should we? Yeah, let's have sex tonight, like so cavalier 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.279 and so relaxed about it. But you know what, that's 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.359 what happens when married couple talks about it, you know. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.440 So we still try to keep a little spy sometimes, 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:53.880 you know, uh, there'll be some uh outfits involved or 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:58.320 some some candles that are like yeah, Ashley, uh, and 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.200 my and I like, um, what the hell is it 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:05.760 called not candles incense? Right? Yeah? Okay, huh, because there's 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.880 another definition that's very close to that word that would 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.400 have sounded really bad in this context. Yeah, actually actually 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:16.680 love int uh, but it's crazy. Yeah, eighty two years old. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.560 I'm totally with Jane Fond on this said point. At 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.360 the time of point, you're just like, you know what, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.680 I don't need that in my life anymore. Like, it's 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.240 just it sounds exhausting, That's what it sounds like. I 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:26.760 guess you probably got you probably get to a point 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.720 where you like have done and tried everything that you 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.400 ever could even imagine, so it's like, well, you know, 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.360 it's kind of lost its appeal. I don't know, No, 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.080 I agree, she said. Then Tiffany Hattash asked her if 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:41.080 she has any regrets, uh, and she said that she has. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:47.560 Her greatest regret was Marvin Gay. Apparently she wanted to 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.960 hook up with Marvin Gay. So there we go. Jane 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.480 Fond of Marvin Gay. A little known, a little uh, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.400 a little fun fact for the day before Halloween for you. 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:00.760 Wait her greatest regret was that she didn't did not couple. Apparently, 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.880 she said, apparently Marvin Gay wanted to and she was 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:08.040 married at the time, and uh, she just felt like 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.040 it was wrong. So good for Jane Fonda, uh, not cheating, 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.360 but at the same time, apparently to her biggest regret. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.320 So I'm assuming that marriage didn't work out. I don't 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.280 really know the backstory on that one. I'm gonna I'm 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.400 gonna go ahead and correct myself from earlier I said 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:22.880 it was Mike Posner. It's actually a Mickey Avalon song 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:25.920 called Jane Fonda. Uh, and if you have the time, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.920 listen to it, because it's like it's like an all 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.800 time greatest college hit. Interesting. Well, we'll definitely have to 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.680 check that out. I don't even know that song is, 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:37.240 but I just know Jane Fonda. I'm really just aging myself. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.440 But really that was like a parent that was like 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.080 that was like more Mark's time, you know what I mean? Mark, 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.040 Mark was more Jane Fonda than I was. I can't 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.680 deny that. Alright, Cool, we have calin coming out the 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.240 podcast next. I have plenty of questions from you, suck Army, 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.760 I asked on Instagram. What questions you had for Kalin's 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.560 I mean, this is truly like her first real appearance 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.520 on the pod cast. She's she's popped in and out before, 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.959 but like now, she's in the hot seat before we 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:07.800 jumped to before we jump to that, I've gotta I'd 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.760 like to know what she should prepare for, and I 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:12.280 would like to know what I need to personally prepare 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.280 for as well. Uh, there's some question, there's some family 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.439 questions in here from sock army. I'm certainly going to 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:22.480 be asking about paradise last year, how she felt, uh 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.200 when she first found out that you were very open 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.360 about living in a van. Uh, she's gonna be asking 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.240 about worst dates with you. Uh, she's also gonna be 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.560 asked about best dates with you. So that's good little 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:41.000 positivity in there. Uh. What else do we got in here? Uh? 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:48.120 Some some possible marriage or family planning questions in there? Wonderful, 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.880 you know, very just obvious ones that can be sometimes 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:58.480 difficult to answer, but we'll be asked on this podcast today. Um, yeah, 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:03.480 that's that's very understandable. I suppose there was there was 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:05.000 something important I wanted to touch on it, and now 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.920 it escapes me. And I hate when this happened. Uh. 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.040 Sometimes you just you just carry on for so long 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.280 that the the ideas and the thoughts that I have 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.560 in my head escape somehow, you know what I mean? 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.440 Um No, I hear you. Happens all the time, you know, 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:23.200 apparently go if you remember? Yes, thank you so much. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.040 Are all of these questions uh, derived from the help 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.760 I sucudating Instagram? Uh? Yeah, I mean a majority of 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.120 them are. I mean, like some questions I have, but 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.160 my questions are. Listen, I'm gonna go easy on you, 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.240 all right, because you're a friend. So I'm going to 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.440 ask about like some paradise questions, and like I'm definitely 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.160 gonna ask about the wedding bands, like in the specifics 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.400 of like were you guys like leaning into the marriage 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.000 angle of that and not disclosing whether you guys were 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.079 married or not. And so some of those are your questions, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.240 some of these are their questions. Yeah, nice little blend 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.720 of both, you know. Cool. I wonder if maybe Marker 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.880 Easton or Becky have questions as well. Oh. Also that 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:07.800 reminds me, unfortunately through of my own fault, we got 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.320 back from uh palm springs too late. On Sunday. So 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.760 we didn't get to see Becky and Mario last weekend, 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.280 but we do want to have an update from Becky 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.600 about her date with to Mario. And for the listeners 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:20.839 out there, I'm sure you've been following along and Becky story, 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.040 we'll get to it later. But she met a young 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:28.120 gentleman through the podcast and he came out to California 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.400 to see her for the weekend. So, uh, also, stay 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.079 tuned for that. If you're not gonna stay tuned for 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:35.280 for Klin, at least stay tuned for Becky and Tomorrio 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.720 because you're not gonna want to miss that either. But 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.160 what do you say you want to? Yeah? Absolutely, I 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:42.600 just want to know if Becky's gonna invite us to 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:45.199 the wedding. I mean, granted, be seeing how we were 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.600 the ones that really kind of made this whole relationship 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.520 begin because he was a fan of the podcast. I 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:55.280 feel like it's only deserving that you and I are equal. 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:56.960 I'll be the maid of honor and you could be 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.800 the best man. That seems fitting. Yes, And if we 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.400 don't at least officiate, maybe be ring bears. There has 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.640 to be some sort of involvement in the wedding as well. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.719 I think that is definitely very important. We can we 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.120 can touch on that later with her as well. Uh, 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.040 but let's get kylea Earn here before we do that. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:13.360 Is there anything else you want to add? Should we 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.080 take a quick break and then bring her in? I 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.360 think we should just take a quick break. Brother, sounds 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:29.920 good to me. Stay tuned, little beer back all right, 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:34.199 and we are back to help I suck at dating. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.640 We started this podcast as two and we continue on 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:42.000 as three because, uh, the young Kayla Miller Keys and 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.240 actually Patty So I guess for have joined us for 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.280 the rest of this episode. Um, kaylhen you were here 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:52.560 last episode, I'll be honest as a couple of beers deep. So, uh, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.800 you know, as a little field feeling a little lucy goosey. 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.400 Today is a little different. We're just hanging out in 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.960 the department in Santa Monica. But Jared's got some question 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.120 for us, So, I don't know, does there anything you 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.319 want to say before we dive into this or I'm 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.040 just a little nervous. Yeah, don't be nervous. They're very 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.400 easy there, their softball questions. Let's be honest, We're not 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:12.560 gonna go too hard on you. But like Kaitlin, how 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.720 do you feel that your Dean's punishment. I feel like 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.959 you should be seen as Yeah, you're absolutely right, I 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.280 should be seen as your gift. But I was listening 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.720 in the other room to what you were saying, and 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.600 I agree. I think we've done a good job of 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.520 I don't know, not doing joint interviews, and now we're 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.040 like in a strong place in our relationship. It's time 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.079 are in a strong place in our relationship. We're in 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:40.000 a very weak place in a relationship. Should I leave? 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.559 Should I give you guys a couple of minutes to 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.640 discuss amongst yourself? You need for the record for the record, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.439 In my opinion, Caitlin obviously can disagree with this. I 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.360 don't think it's I don't think it's a it's time thing. 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.240 I think it's a this is a one off experience 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.720 because I lost to you in fantasy football. We're not 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.720 going to just like start doing a bunch of interviews together. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.120 This is this is the one an only time until 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.040 next year when you beat me again in fantasy football. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:05.959 I was about to say, what happens if we we 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:08.320 play each other again in the regular season or playoffs, 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:13.200 and I beat you again, Calin part two. Anyway, let's 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.400 go bridge when we get to it, So, Calin, Calin, 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:20.520 my dear, uh, let's rewind the clocks. So I'm curious 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.640 when you first met Dean because you you wanted to 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.880 meet Dean in Paradise. Correct. Hm, well, I was one 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.680 of the people she wanted to be in. Well, we 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.840 all give multiple people, but Dean you were one of 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:38.320 those guys. So Calin, when you first met Dean? Did 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:46.240 he was he everything you expected or the complete opposite? Oh? Um? Well, 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:50.040 So I first met Dean in West Hollywood, like briefly 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:55.320 for like two minutes, and I was like, oh my gosh, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.760 he's so handsome and he just like has this I 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:03.040 don't or about him. He's very charismatic, he's very nice 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:07.760 and sweet. And then he came down to Paradise and yeah, 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.520 very different from what I expected. But even like when 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.400 we were dating in Paradise, it was always you know, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.760 this is going to end soon, you know, and so 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.200 like him telling me that, and so, yeah, he's very 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:23.160 different now than he was in Paradise because we're in 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.560 a committed relationship. And then it was like all right, 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.160 you know this could end any day. But just because 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:30.920 one thing changed about my mindset about a relationship doesn't 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:34.120 mean things are very different. Yeah, okay, you're right, You're right, 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:40.240 I'm wrong. Well, it's not no a relationship. You're the 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.640 same person. You are the same person, just the relationships 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.360 my mindset, and one thing has changed. Um in Paradise, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.600 they made it seem like, uh, like you were a 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:54.200 little torn between Connor and Dean. And so my question is, 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:59.120 did Connor ever even have a chance? No, no chance? 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.520 It was. I tell Deean this all the time. My 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:05.000 favorite moment, I'm not even joking, in the entirety of 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.040 the Bachelor franchise that I have ever seen, was when 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.080 Dean came back. And I tell him this all the time. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.480 First of all, he looked like a damn stud on there, 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.840 like his long hair, he shaved his mustache, he had 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:16.880 a tan, he had that blue button down on. I 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.640 was like Connor, legitimately, no chance and then no offense. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.320 Connor seems like a very sweet man, but uh then 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.640 he's Connor sitting on the bed while you and Dean 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:29.040 are talking. And then Connor and Christina are talking and 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.640 Connor's like, I'm not worried, Like me and Caitlin have 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.000 a good thing going. And then Christina looks over at 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:38.080 Connor and goes, have you met Dean? And he goes no, 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.400 and She's like yeah. And then I was like, oh 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.680 my god, that is the greatest moment I've ever seen 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.680 because it was the realist thing, like, legitimately, I love you, Dean. 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.320 But if you ever like pre Kalin Pree, actually, if 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:52.840 you were like going after my girlfriend, I'd be like, 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:57.960 I'm like, I got no shot um. Anyway. Uh So 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:03.240 when you guys left Paradise because Caitlin, were you thinking 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.320 that you could truly have a future with Dean because 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.200 of everything that he kind of outlined and was very 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.480 truthful to you about. He wasn't sure about his future. 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.879 He wants you know, he he was truthfully living in 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.080 a van. He really wanted to travel. Do you you 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:20.040 know did you see that as compatibility? No. I knew that, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.800 like I knew we had a super strong connection, and 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.560 I was like, there's no way I could leave this 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.080 speech with anyone else like it's Dean and I knew that, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:32.040 But I was also hesitant because he had just dumped me. 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.840 He was a little bit afraid of commitment, it seemed, 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:39.280 and I don't know, our lives seemed very different. So 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:41.600 in the beginning of our relationship, I was just like 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:47.440 walking on eggshells almost and like scared, essentially scared of him. 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.199 We went to Europe together and I wasn't I was 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.000 just always on edge and you know, whinsaken and dumped 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.480 me or what am I going to say the wrong 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.520 thing or do the wrong thing? And then we slowly 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.320 got to know each other better and outside of the show, 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.639 and our relationship just kept growing and I was like, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.960 oh wait, this is this is real. Yeah, listen, I'm 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.520 a pretty scary guy. I don't know, Caitlin, what's the 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:14.160 biggest thing you've seen change indeed over the past year 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.560 year and a half that you've been with him? Yeah? 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.720 What a great question. That is the biggest thing you've 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:24.919 seen change besides my hair? Decide your hair? Um? I 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.479 don't know. Deans always a very loving and kind person, 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.159 but I think them were the more comfortable we've become 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:36.480 in our relationship. I don't know. I don't really think 0:18:36.480 --> 0:18:38.760 you've changed. Honest, you can talk crap about me if 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.280 you want. I probably got like messier. I probably played 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.439 more video games like all the little all the little 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.719 things that you like make sure you're on top of 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.560 when you first started start dating someone like um All 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:53.359 Gone the Wind else series between. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:57.720 know you just like slowly start to uh lean into 0:18:57.760 --> 0:18:59.400 him a little bit. And I'm sure there are plenty 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.280 of that. Actually, you used to never far in front 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.120 of me, and now it just constantly smells like as 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.639 in this apartment. Dude. Ever since the first time I 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.360 farted in front of Calein, I just let him rip 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.760 all the time. It's fantastic. But I still get to 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.040 hear one of her parts. I still I refused to 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.760 believe that she farts, but I actually believe that. I 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:23.000 don't think Calin farts. Um, so, what's your what's your Well, 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:24.800 I know you didn't answer that question, but I know 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.640 you're said it's kind of a hard question to answer. 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.239 But can you think of one thing? You just think 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.359 of one thing? Come on, I mean, I don't know. 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.359 I don't really think you've changed in any way. Well, 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:37.840 let me give you an example of how I think 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:42.320 Dean's changed a little bit. I think Dean has always 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.919 been very scared of commitment. Granted, I'm speaking from an 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:52.520 outsider's perspective, but I think with you. In my opinion, 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:57.040 Dean has actively put a lot of effort and work 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:02.480 into making you feel like he is a percent committed 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:06.240 in this relationship. Yeah, I can agree with that. And 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:08.680 he does a really good job of making me feel 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:15.080 fully secure and confident. And we're step together basically. I mean, listen, 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:16.879 We've got a cell phone playing together, we got a 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.640 joint bank account together, we got our freaking old dog together. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:23.680 You're right, he does a really good job of that. 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:25.240 And that's something that I was so scared of in 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:29.080 the beginning. Is even I remember Demian Paradise pulled me 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.040 aside and she was like, what the hell are you doing? 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.320 Like this guy is going to break your heart? And 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:35.600 I was like, no, it's just casual, it's fine. And 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.560