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Speaker 1: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything

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Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren

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Speaker 2: came in. Hey, y'all, what's up.

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Speaker 1: It's Laura l Rosa and this is the latest with

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Speaker 1: Laura le Rosa. This is your daily dig on all

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Speaker 1: things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations

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Speaker 1: that shake the room. Baby checking in behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: of the Grind because my low riders, y'all know that

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Speaker 1: is how we start the show off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I've just been really learning and utilizing this, you know,

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Speaker 1: one step at a time thing, keeping the main thing,

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Speaker 1: the main thing, and taking my time. I finally feel

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Speaker 1: like I'm getting back to a point where it's like,

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Speaker 1: even when things go go perfect, even when I mess up,

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Speaker 1: I'm girl like, what this is?

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Speaker 2: Your like? You got this?

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's like a it's always like a new

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Speaker 1: girl at school mentality when you're in a new space

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Speaker 1: or things are you know, elevating, and that's a good,

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Speaker 1: good good, you know, just I think nature to have

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Speaker 1: because I want to stay teachable. I want to actually

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Speaker 1: I don't need here's my thing about the whole teachable

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Speaker 1: conversation and accountability. I am very aware of myself. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very aware that, like, I'm not the most teachable

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Speaker 1: person because I've always had to be to be the

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Speaker 1: to do that all the time and how to take it.

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Speaker 2: Either I'll take it.

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Speaker 1: Too internal and you know what I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: just hang it on to myself and it impacts my

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Speaker 1: just don't want to hear it at all. And once

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear baby, it's nothing you can

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Speaker 1: tell me. And I think that there's there's some good

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Speaker 1: in number one, being aware that I am not the

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Speaker 1: most teachable person.

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Speaker 2: I'm teachable, but I am.

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Speaker 1: It's like I pick and choose when I want to

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Speaker 1: be fully like, I'm here, I'm a student, but I

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Speaker 1: think it's a really good place to be that I'm

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Speaker 1: aware of that. But I also think being a person

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Speaker 2: I'm not nonchalant at all. It's either I'm.

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Speaker 1: Very passionate or I have to turn my brain off,

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Speaker 1: and I get to the solution quick, Like it doesn't

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Speaker 2: It's not you personally, but here's the bigger picture.

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Speaker 1: I am really good at that, and I think you

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Speaker 1: need that in business, and you need that in everything

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Speaker 1: that I'm doing, especially because you have so many things

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Speaker 1: But when the podcast was first dropping or our one year,

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Speaker 1: I was pissed at myself because I'm like, girl, how

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Speaker 1: So we got a lot of the extracurriculars, you know,

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Speaker 1: That's the first thing on the lineup, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes of the grind. So that's our check

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Speaker 1: in now. When I come back, it's time to get

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Speaker 1: on into the latest. All right, y'all, So let's hop

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Speaker 1: into the latest now. We talked on our last episode

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Speaker 1: very in depth about America's Next Top Model, the Reality

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Speaker 1: Check documentary that went down on Netflix. It's called reality

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Speaker 1: Check Inside America's Next Top Model. It aired on February sixteenth,

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Speaker 2: In this documentary, you know, we Tyra.

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Speaker 1: Banks is there speaking very candidly, Nigel Barker, j Manuel

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Speaker 1: But some of this stuff, I'm like, she on here

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Speaker 1: our previous episodes here at the latest with Laurna Rosa.

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Speaker 1: It's all there, But there's a new interview that dropped

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Speaker 1: entertainment tonight. Did it exclusive sit down with Miss Jay

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Speaker 1: I found several parts of this interesting because I had

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Speaker 1: So number one, we found out that Miss j is

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Speaker 1: Like it's just I think, even up until this point

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Speaker 2: I didn't have a stroke myself. My mom had several strokes.

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Speaker 1: Because Miss Jay has not posted anything since the airing

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Speaker 1: You would see Miss Jay's Instagram say, oh, you're gonna

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Tyra Banks, as you know, this breakout black, iconic legendary

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was controversial, but then we put

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Speaker 4: You lost your man?

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Speaker 1: Baby, ain't no way, Tyra Banks. I don't care what

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Speaker 1: j Manuel right like, I've had to learn, regardless of

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Speaker 1: And so a job after That's a conversation for a

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Speaker 1: And here's what Jamanuell I had to say, this is

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Speaker 2: Can we talk now about what happened?

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Speaker 3: With you and Jay.

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Speaker 2: I'd prefer I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I should call Jay.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: You know, we got to see a bit of a

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's like at one point I felt like in watching

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Speaker 1: In this docuseries, and that was the only thing that

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Speaker 1: I need to know why, Tyra Banks like what happened?

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Speaker 1: This is the only thing you didn't see here and

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Speaker 2: I want to know why. I want to know what happened, Like,

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Speaker 2: I want to know what.

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Speaker 1: Was the switch for Tyra that when from you're my bestie,

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Speaker 1: You're my best of y'all are helping me. I appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this together. We all in this together. I'm

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Speaker 2: Was the switch? There's a lot more that we still

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Speaker 1: Ta Car text me today and again make sure you're

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Speaker 1: gonna watch the Car's interview that we did. Hear the

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Speaker 2: I talked to Car early.

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Speaker 1: y'all were there, what y'all feel, what's happening? But she

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Speaker 1: So Tyra Banks, if you're watching, First of all, here girl,

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