1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your home of the Black 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. I'llcome back up Dale Ally here. 3 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt Buddy Johnson, trade Turner, Dan Moore, 4 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: and Arthur Mallette did not practice for the Steelers. Name 5 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: Molletts an illness, but he just came off the COVID list, 6 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: So can't be that, Yeah, right, right, Okay, Well, I 7 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: mean you're not gonna see a ton of three receiver 8 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: sets from these guys for Alette, but he's a good player. 9 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: Like every team, they're gonna trot three out there at times. 10 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: And Bateman's come on a little bit, and Marcus Brown. 11 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean they're a big two back team. I mean 12 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: they play a ton of fullback, a ton of you know, uh, 13 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two, that type of thing. But still 14 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: you'd like that milette you'd like to I think they will. 15 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I don't see that being a problem a couple of 16 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: days for the Ravens today. Does straight Towner worry, by 17 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: the way, Maybe not really. Yeah, if you get if 18 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: Datson's back, you can bump the glue to the right 19 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: and you know where you can you can still you 20 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: still have hag Um, they have options here. Um zack 21 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: banners back so they can mix and match. Eight. We 22 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: could maybe see the starting offensive tackles the way they 23 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: meant to see them this year. You know that. Yeah, 24 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: you never know, right right, There's all kinds of things 25 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: that they could do there. If you're looking at the 26 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Ravens today, well, Lamar Jackson did not practice again today. 27 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: He's not playing. He's not playing. They also, uh, Marquise 28 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: Brown did not practice. He's now dealing with an ankle. 29 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland, Uh, there are their guards head injury. Uh 30 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: practiced yesterday and all of a sudden has a head injury. 31 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: Head injury usually means concussion, especially this late in the week, 32 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: doesn't sound promising. Devonte Freeman did not practice. They say 33 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: that was rest related. Patrick McCarry didn't practice yesterday. He 34 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: bumped up too limited today. He's the right tackle, he said, okay, 35 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: Um Ben Powers and other of their guards was limited 36 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: again today. Uh as if their oline isn't in bad 37 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: enough shape to begin with. They also they rested the 38 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: Alejandra Villaneueva and Brandon Williams um and then if you 39 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: look at the other guys who did not practice, Uh, 40 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: Anthony of Rhett did not practice again for the second 41 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: second day. He's right now there, number one quarter right. 42 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean he was actually playing when everyone was healthy. 43 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: And then uh, Tyler Huntley was a full he'd been 44 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: dealing with an illness. Uh and uh outside linebacker Oh 45 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: d f Owa did not practice, did not practice any day. 46 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: He's dealing with a foot as has been powers. I 47 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: mean my takeaways there are Brandon Williams, Freeman al, they're 48 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: just old dudes. Yeah, they played, but you're missing interior 49 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: lineman as what I say, But the old line McCary, 50 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what his situation is. The two guards are, 51 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: you know, probably out or at least the head injury 52 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: with Cleveland, they're old lines. Mccary's a hand and somebody 53 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: might say, man, what what the difference does it make us? 54 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: An offensive lineman has a hand hand injury. Be curious 55 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: is his left or is right? That matters? You know? 56 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean, how if the favorite can you can you 57 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: get one one hand outside your body and strike with it? 58 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: I mean, and if that's if it is, let's say 59 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: it is your your left hand and I'm so I'm 60 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: lining up if I'm if I'm the pass rusher. I'm 61 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: gonna rush to that. I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna 62 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: dike you to the outside and spin to the inside. 63 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: You can't get a hold of me. And I'm sure 64 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: I have every one knows this, but I mean, just 65 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: think of just regular punches, you know, two hands together, 66 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: thumbs together, punches. I mean, that's gonna hurt like crazy, 67 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: I would wink. And of course they're not always I 68 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: mean cold, but a lot of holding over the jersey. 69 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: You know, your hand's gotta be able. If your hands 70 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: are inside, you're okay, you're grabbing cloth, you know. I 71 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: mean that's a real problem. It's a bit of an issue. Yes, 72 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: And plus watch such a good hand fighter too. I 73 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: mean he has those chopped moves, he swipes the hands 74 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: away and attacks people's hands, and he has quicker hands 75 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: than them as well. Yeah. I do not like hearing 76 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: that from a McCary standpoint, from a you in the standpoint. Yeah, 77 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, I I don't know if people understand how 78 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: good T. J. Watt is with his hands. It's phenomenal. Yeah, 79 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean he's he is like a I don't even 80 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: want to say he's like a counterpuncher. It's almost like 81 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: watching jujitsu, jiu jitsu or you know, um martial arts. 82 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, with the great hand the usage that those 83 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: guys have and how quick they are and how they 84 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: counter off it and um, you know those type of things. 85 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: And it's a lot of practice. I mean, people have 86 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: patented moves. I mean he has like this cross chop 87 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: he uses a lot, and he rips well and all that. 88 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: But not knowing what's coming is part of the battle there, 89 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: and he's really good about that. Yeah, there's no doubt 90 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: about that. Uh, since we brought it up, there have 91 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: been this season six and thirty one holding penalties called Okay, 92 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: we talked about this a lot last season or up 93 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: from last year. So last season one last season that 94 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: number was seventy seven. Wow, So that's equal amount of 95 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: weeks who basically basically you're looking at like ten per 96 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: week across the league. Yeah, that's a game. They've already 97 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: played their sixteen games this year. It's like the season's over. 98 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: So last year was a problem though. I mean it 99 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: was like if you if you look at what t. J. 100 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: Watt did last year, fifteen sacks last year led the NFL. 101 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: That might be the same as nineteen this year, eighteen 102 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: this year, and he's got twenty one and a half. 103 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: That's the difference. You know, if you say, well, you 104 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: know what, why wasn't you know, why wasn't he is 105 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: this effective last year? I thought he was equally as 106 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: impressive last year every bit, but holding was legal, legal, right, 107 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: didn't have crowd noise, offense was up in general. I 108 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: mean last year was a strange, strange year, and this 109 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: year is two in a little ways. I mean, like 110 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: we talked fantasy a lot, the quarterbacks aren't producing the 111 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: same fantasy numbers they have the last couple of years. 112 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the offense is down a little bit. They're 113 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: they're calling holding again. There no longer legal. That's a 114 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: big part of it. I think probably significant number. You've 115 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: seen a lot a lot more too high safety to 116 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: take away the big plays things like that too, But 117 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: that's a significant number. I mean it's a huge number. 118 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: That's a big difference. And for a week basically, I 119 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: mean basically one per game, that's one less, you know, yeah, 120 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean you all of a sudden, now first and 121 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: your first and ten was first and twenty. We bring 122 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: this up a lot too, I mean drives. It's almost 123 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: like an inning of baseball. If you get to play 124 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: nine and I get to play eighth, I really like 125 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: your chances, you know what I mean. It's not the 126 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: home field walk off and not you know, let alone 127 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: you know the position that puts your offense in then, um, 128 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, if you're starting off at your twenty or 129 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: twenty five hold, you take a hold, that's that's ten 130 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: yards off. Now you're deep in your own territory. That 131 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: is significant. That's different than baseball. You're giving the opponent 132 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: to a really good now you're giving him a runner 133 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: on second in their bottom of the in they're part 134 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: of the four out right exactly. So yeah, that is 135 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: a big deal, I mean, without question. So I just 136 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: thought to bring it up since we talked about it 137 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: so much last year. We did. Then, I don't know this. 138 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's others in the neighborhood, but what had 139 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: to be near the league lead and holds. It would 140 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: have got called in two thousand twenty one that weren't 141 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty. That's why my my favorite what 142 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 1: sack this year was the one where the two the two, 143 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: uh just two weeks ago, and he's swimming through through 144 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: both of them. They get their arms basically together, like 145 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: playing Red Rover Red Rover. I left t J come 146 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: on this kind of swimming and he got he still 147 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: got another. I was watching that one live in fact, 148 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: because I said I watched him. I'll just focus on 149 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: him to see what's going on. And I'm like, oh, man, 150 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that one before. That's a highlight. For sure. 151 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: That'll be on his Hall of Fame real or whatever, 152 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: if it ever gets to that. You know, I bring 153 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: it up as well because you know who is second 154 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: in the league in holding penalese this season? Now, that 155 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: would be your Baltimore Ravens with nine. The Vikings lead 156 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: the league with thirty. The Ravens are at twenty nine, 157 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: as are the Dallas Cowboys. The Ravens not only allow 158 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: the most sacks, that's a lot of negativity, and that's 159 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: how you know you you struggle offensively when you have 160 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: a weapon like justin Tucker. Typically you crossed the fifty 161 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: and you're at least in Tucker's. You could think about 162 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: field goal here, how many that's an interesting point, you know, 163 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you could study it after the season. 164 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: How many drives that would have been a Tucker attempt 165 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: that he hits more than most people turned into a punt. 166 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: That's a lot of three point games. Fifty I think 167 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: his fifty three sacks they've allowed in twenty nine holding penalties. 168 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: That's a lot of negativity out of your offensive. And 169 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: they run the ball one of the highest percentages in 170 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: the league, by the way, you know, so wow, there 171 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: are lines a real problem. I mean, big picture for 172 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: their sake. I mean, I hope Stanley comes back and 173 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: as the player he was, but I don't know how 174 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: encouraged I'd be with that. And it's not like they 175 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: have answers galore across there. There's some just some you know, 176 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: throwing guys. I mean, with all respect that Villanueva, and 177 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: where would they be without him? He's not a long 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: term answer. The team with the fewest holding penalties is 179 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons with eleven. Matt Ryan's probably going you 180 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 1: guys could hold a little bit more. I'm trying to 181 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: think why they'd even be that. They don't run the 182 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: ball that much. They don't run the ball that much, 183 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: and I think the teams that run the ball more. 184 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: I think i'd like to do this study. You know, 185 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: I think if you look at it, a lot, a 186 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: lot of the teams that run more outside, I think 187 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: you're it's harder to hide it, yeah, because you're getting 188 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: you're getting your offensive lineman out on the edge. They're 189 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: gonna get caught from. Yeah, they're gonna get seeing your 190 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: hands outside the pads. Yeah, it's just not as much 191 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: can it's not as congested in there for the people 192 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: to see it. A lot of times still, you see 193 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: those holding penalty even if an offensive lineman can just 194 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: dominate the block and drive the guy into the ground, 195 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: then it looks like a hole because you know, destroyed them. Yeah. 196 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm also sitting here thinking, I bet the Steelers are 197 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: low on the holding penalty They've got, yeah, the middle 198 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: of the pack, because I think some of it is 199 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to think. You know, why 200 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: would Atlanta be the best? And I think some of 201 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: us having a veteran quarterback and he's going to be 202 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: in the pocket, yeah you know what I mean, and 203 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: players don't break down as much knowing where the quarterback 204 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: is for better or worse. I mean, you'd love Ben 205 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: and Ryan to run around more and make you know, 206 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: impromptu stuff. But they run the play right. That's kind 207 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: of If you look at the Eagles, who lead the 208 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: league in rushing, they've only got seventeen holding penalties. I 209 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: think that might be the best offensive line. They're pretty good. Yeah, 210 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they're paying them a lot of money, so 211 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: that's what they're built to do. I mean, even like 212 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: Kelsey is still playing really well, Lane Johnson stayed healthy. 213 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: Um Dickerson, who we really loved, has inserted himself a 214 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: guard and has been a star Um and then one 215 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: of the best draft picks really in the last couple 216 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: of years. He's a seventh round pick on Jordan Alatta, 217 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: who's a massive human being, was a rugby player. Well 218 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: he figured out this football thing pretty quick. An they 219 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: got a left tackle that's massive on the cheap, I mean, 220 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: so that's one thing they don't have to worry about. Yeah. 221 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting, uh, but the team's at the 222 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: top of that Minnesota with thirty, Baltimore and Dallas with nine, 223 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: the Raiders with Kansas City with twenty six, in Houston 224 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: and New England with each I'm sure it doesn't say 225 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: it there but I'm curious, are one of those teams 226 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: heavier in protection with hold calls versus run. Baltimore is 227 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: the one that really comes to mind, because they allow 228 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: so many sacks and their quarterbacks hold the ball a 229 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: little longer, and when Lamar was there, they pushed the 230 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: ball down the field a lot my hunches even though 231 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: they throw the ball less than they the most teams 232 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: I've been a big percentage of their holds are in 233 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: the passing game. Dallas is actually, if you look at it, 234 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: had the most penalties. They've had thirty six of them 235 00:12:55,480 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: called against them. Seven have been declined against their defense. 236 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: Against their offense, they have holding penalties, but seven of 237 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: them have been dismissed. If you look at the the 238 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 1: Vikings have thirty, but only one has been declined. The 239 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: Ravens situation or you know, but only three of them 240 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: have been declined. Usually he got they get the first down, 241 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna take take the penalty yards. Thank Yeah. Um, 242 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: I guess that doesn't surprise me about the Ravens, though, 243 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: definitely up around the league. Yeah, I mean, a bad 244 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: offensive line plus a lot of holding, a lot of 245 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: running leads to their backs aren't great. Young quarterback in 246 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: there too. I mean, you don't know where to go 247 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: to the football all the time. And I would bet 248 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: Lamar also contributes to holding calls just because of how 249 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: long he can start moving around that kind of stuff. 250 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: Offensive lineman, you would think you'd love the pass block 251 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: for Lamar or vic Are guys like that, but you 252 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: can't see them and you don't you can push them 253 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: right into the quarterback if they're scramble around like crazy, 254 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: like they're my homes. And Lamar doesn't do a ton 255 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: of that really, I mean, victed a lot of it, 256 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: of crazy spins and you know super you know, but 257 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: it's awful hard to pass block for someone you can't 258 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: see if you don't know where they're at. You know, 259 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: you expected the ball out, you know it's now where 260 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: is he? Like? That was one of the yeah, um 261 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: I heard uh on the postgame show Charlie Batch talking 262 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: about that with Stan Savereign that the Steeler's offensive line 263 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: when Ben Roethlisberger came in in two thousand four, A 264 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: lot of those guys have been there when the Steelers 265 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: had Cordell Stewart and the and the right wide receivers 266 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: as well, and so it was a difference you had 267 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: to learn. You know, when Cordell Stewart tucked the ball, 268 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: he was running, yeah, and scared the heck out. When 269 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: Ben started moving around, He's still looking down field, trying 270 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: to make a make something, a better example than vic 271 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Or Lamar. Early Early Ben was a lot I'm gonna 272 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: run around on. My eyes are still downfield. So the 273 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: ride receivers have to learn, Okay, when when the order 274 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: back tucks the ball down and starts moving around back there, 275 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: I gotta get open. I'm not blocking. I'm not. I'm 276 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: gonna I'm not you know, blocking downfield, you know, glued 277 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: to My guy in the offensive line has to learn 278 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: that when he starts moving around, you're gonna start looking. 279 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, if he rolls right, he could be back 280 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: on this side real quick. And I can't really push 281 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: my guy. My guy can see Ben. I can't. Yeah, 282 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's an advantage there to the defense, which 283 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: makes what Ben did all the more impressive. But I mean, 284 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: for our young listeners, there wasn't really anyone of his 285 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: era that I can remember that extended plays. He was 286 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: the best longer. He was the best second plays right, Yeah, 287 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: And often you know, directing traffic while he did it, 288 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: you know, pointing trug the guy off and right. I 289 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: mean the time and time again some of the stuffer. 290 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: Go back if you if you haven't seen early Ben, 291 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: and you've only seen Ben like the last five years, 292 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: go back and look at the like the pre two 293 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: thousand twelve tape. Bring my son up all the time 294 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: because he's fifteen and the last five years he's had 295 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: a pretty some clue about football and learns a lot 296 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: a lot more year and year. But the seven year 297 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: version of Michael Williamson didn't know what Ben. I told him. 298 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: I was like, go watch the early season. He's like, wow, 299 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: that was awesome. You know, yeah, you forget what he 300 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: really was? Yeah he was. He was not a pocket passer. 301 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: I think I brought this up yesterday. I mean two 302 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: or three people have asked me this week is the 303 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: style of quarterback that Roethlisberger is a dinosaur? I'm like, 304 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: do you remember what he was? You know? I mean, 305 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: he's exactly what you want now. He could he could. 306 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: He was Josh Allen. I remember when Josh, when Josh 307 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: Allen was coming out that year, a couple of years ago, 308 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: it was more accurate than Josh Allen. Yeah. I mean 309 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: I remember watching the tape and thinking, you know, because 310 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: of the size, oh yeah, and in the arm um. 311 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: You know, that was the comparison for a lot of people. 312 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: He's He's Ben Roethlisberg. I'm like, been through the ball 313 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: better than I thought. The best comparison for him was 314 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: Cam Newton Allen, yeah, because I mean he was a 315 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: real erratic pastor and he got better and better. But boy, 316 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: he's a big, hulking guy and fast, and both those 317 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: guys are probably faster than Ben in a race, even 318 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: nineteen year old Ben. But Ben moved pretty darn well 319 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: compared to most quarterbacks and and way compared to most 320 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: quarter anyone his side. I always say, you know, when 321 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: when people say you Ben, he should have taken better 322 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: care of himself, blah blah blah, And I'm like, I 323 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: call him little Ben. Like you know, there's plenty of 324 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: pictures out there of me standing next to Roethlisberger interviewing him, 325 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: and my wife always says, like he's big because I'm 326 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm six one, two hundred five pounds. I'm 327 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: not a little a little guy, and I looked little 328 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: next to Ben Roethlisberger. I don't see him nearly as 329 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: often as you do, and it's still shocks me his 330 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: bone structure. You know, how big he is naturally, and 331 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: it's not like he's built like a bodybuilder or anything, 332 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: but he's just long and thick. And I joke all 333 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: the time. I'm like, if he want to give him 334 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: a hard time about knocking, not taking care of himself 335 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: or whatever, if he wanted to let himself go, he'd 336 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: be three fifty in a heartbeat. I mean, if he 337 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: just decided to sit on the couch and drink beer 338 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 1: and he pizza for the next ten years, and they 339 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 1: retire his number ten years from now, and he goes 340 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: strolling out on the field, he could be a humongous 341 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: human being. Yeah, you know what I mean. Here's his 342 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: wide shoulders and long arms, and you know he could 343 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: really pack on aunds good or bad there without a doubt. 344 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, but he's a big boned, big strong I mean. 345 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: It played to his favor a lot of times, but 346 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: it also led this. You know, when you look at 347 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: the sack totals that he had, this he's the most 348 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: sack quarterback in the history of the league. You know. Yeah, 349 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: and he's played like and part of that is because 350 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: of him, you know, he is. Randy Feakner used to 351 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: say he would put the Superman cape on, you know. 352 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: I mean Brady, as you would expect, there's a second 353 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: most sack guy in the league. And I think Brady's 354 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: played like fifty more games, right, I mean Benvicet time 355 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: over the years. They needn't last quite as long, you know, 356 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: but Brady's the outlier. Brady almost doesn't count in. Yeah, 357 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: you can't sacks per game situation, Brady's probably really low 358 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: on the list. Yeah, he's not gonna extend it or 359 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: he gets rid of the football. It's like man and 360 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: trying to sack Peyton Manning. It's just he's going to 361 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: throw the ball away or you know, you're not gonna 362 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: get there. And the other thing those guys do, which 363 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: I'm not giving them a hard time about, is when 364 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: they when they know the sack is coming, they just 365 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: crumble and go down. They don't take the hit. Ben 366 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: would take the hit and then try to go run 367 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: through the hit, try to hand it out, struggle the 368 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: guy off or whatever, and did it well. Yeah, for 369 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: a lot of he still shrugs. Some guys off even now, Yeah, 370 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean not easy to get on the ground. But um, yeah, 371 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I don't I don't know what style 372 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: of quarterback the Steelers the Steelers will want, I judging 373 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: from some of the things that Mike Tomlin has said, 374 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: like when they were in their bye week, he talked 375 00:19:53,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: about researching how looking into how mobile quarterbacks have changed 376 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: things on what he calls possession downs, third downs, third 377 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: and third and fourth downs, how they've how they've they've 378 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: changed the game a little bit because of the mobility 379 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: faction influx over the last ten years, or at least 380 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: they're given a chance now. So mobility will be a factor, 381 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: but it can't be the loan factor. It's funny to 382 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: me too, because when Brady went to remember the offseason, 383 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: Brady's leaving the Patriots, who knows where he's gonna go? 384 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: I said, over and over, I'm not as interested where 385 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: Brady lands. I'm more interested to see what does Belichick 386 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: do to replace him. Belichick said a lot of things 387 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: about what we hate to play against Lamar and Brady 388 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: couldn't have been any more different. Well, he went with 389 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Camp for a while and that didn't work, and the 390 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: last year they just kind of spun their wheels and 391 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: then they found well, maybe we'll go back to the 392 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: Brady style. You know, does that mean the Steelers will 393 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: go back and try to find someone like Ben. Of 394 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: course they could find someone like Ben. They would do 395 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: that in the heart beat. Yeah. Yeah, the Ben coming 396 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: out of Miami, Ohio was the first pick in the 397 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: draft this year. You know, you right to get that, 398 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: you know, right, So, I mean, but mobile mobility should 399 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: be part of the equation. It shouldn't be the only 400 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: part of the equation. The one thing I've said is, 401 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: ideally I want my quarterback to have Burrow or better 402 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: mobile mobility. You know, certainly can take a wide open 403 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: running lane, um, light enough on your feet. You don't 404 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: have to be a superb athlete. But I mean Burrow 405 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: is a really good basketball player. I mean, he's the 406 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: line might even be lower than that. I used to 407 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: say Mayfield, and the Mayfield is not good enough athlete 408 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: for me, A guy like Burrow would be more than 409 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: a good enough athlete. Is a jumping off point, and 410 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily forty time. No, I don't really don't 411 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: care about that. Yeah, I mean, that doesn't matter. It's 412 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: how you move in the pocket, how you feel the pressure, 413 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: you know when knowing when to take off and when 414 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: the you know when not to. I mean, a big 415 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: thing that hurts Roethlisberger is if everybody plays man and 416 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: they turn their backs to you and there's an easy 417 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: six yards there, He's gonna get you. People, cat job, 418 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, at least give me what 419 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: you got and that's a lot more first downs over 420 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: the course of a year, you know, I'll be honest. 421 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the reasons why I feel 422 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: differently about Mason Rudolph right now than I did at 423 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: the start of the season. Brought that up a lot. 424 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: I think it's a good point, and he does. He's 425 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: shown he could do that because if you think back, 426 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't I think they told him not to run, 427 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: because there were times in that season where he could 428 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: have taken off and didn't threw the ball away or 429 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: or tried to, you know, make something happen down the 430 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: field when he could have gotten ten yards and easily. 431 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: And this year I saw him take off a little 432 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: bit more and they were they weren't just I'm gonna 433 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: go get eight yards and get down. They were actually, 434 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, looked like a football player running with the football. Yeah, 435 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: a dad run. Yeah, I wonder I think you're probably 436 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: right about them coaching it out of him and too. 437 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: I mean, when they didn't know what Duck Hodges was. No, 438 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: I said, I don't think they wanted Rudolph get hurt 439 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: the with all respect of this defense. That defense was elite, 440 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, and I remember two thousand nineteen, 441 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: you and I do in the show, and I said 442 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: every every week that if I was the opposing head coach, 443 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: I would do my first team meeting and say, if 444 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: we don't turn the ball over against these guys, will 445 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: probably win, you know, but good luck trying not. Yeah, 446 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: good luck trying not to do it because the offense 447 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: couldn't run away from you. And they don't want Rudolph 448 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: taking hits and the ball popping out and those type 449 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: of things. So yeah, there might be something to that. Yeah. Now, 450 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, I don't know that he is 451 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: ever going to be a you know, elite pass or 452 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: anything like that. I guess not. I thought he was 453 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: an elite runner. I mean, we know he's not. He's 454 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: not that yeah, and I don't know that he's the 455 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, guaranteed quarterback of the future, any of that 456 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. He'll be in the mix. And you know, 457 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: I had he's here than he's not, right right, That's 458 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: why I look this story coming out of Cleveland today. 459 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: You know, Baker Baker Mayfield might want out of Cleveland 460 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: because he, you know, doesn't feel Stefanski's using him the best. 461 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: And then that they start talking about Mary Kay Cabot 462 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: wrote the story and starts talking about who could be 463 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: if if that's the case, who's the Browns next quarterback? 464 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: And it's all the same. You know, Well, they could 465 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: go get Kirk Cousins because he would love to be 466 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: reunited with Stefanski. I'm like, okay, do you think Cousins 467 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: will look at that? Go let's see, I've got I've 468 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: got a great running back. I've got to Jefferson, I 469 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: got the Eland and Jefferson. But I can go to 470 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: I can go to Cleveland where I'll get to work 471 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: with Stefansi again. But they don't have any receivers. Yeah, 472 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: oh yeah, sign me up for that. I want to 473 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: do that. I mean, unless it's out of his hands. 474 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: In Minnesota Fires just want to get rid of everybody, 475 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: and which is possible. But you know, I mean, if 476 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: you're if you're picking your situation as a quarterback, that 477 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: one's not the one you want to go to. You 478 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: don't put up big numbers your run first team, their 479 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: pass catchers are definitely bottom third in the league, from 480 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: maybe bottom three. Ye I bet there there's a first 481 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: round pick pass catcher probably in the mix somewhere receiver. 482 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: But still, I hear what you're saying. I mean, that's 483 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: that's not an ideal situation. Well, you mean I get 484 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: the hands off thirty five times and throw it twenty five? 485 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: What's such on the the Mayfield thing? Real quick? Like, 486 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: I mean, who's gonna trade for him? He has no 487 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: value right now. He's guaranteed eighteen and a half million 488 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: dollars fully guaranteed. Yeah, I mean, it's just like it's 489 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: like he signed a one year deal that's guaranteed. Yeah. 490 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: So if he'll be coming off of a shoulder surgery. 491 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: Now it's just left shoulder, but still there's rehab involved there. 492 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of bad tape in two thousand twenty one, 493 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: he's not gonna I had the labor surgery as we 494 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: all know. Ye it was three or it was three 495 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 1: or four months of of pretty intensive rehab where if 496 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: you're going through that, you're not gonna be on a 497 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: practicing football And then that's just to get back to 498 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: doing what I do alone, doing what he's like, he's not. 499 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: You know, you're not gonna have him for any mini camps. 500 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: You're not gonna have him for O t A s 501 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: like if he might be ready to be get you know, 502 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: take off the non contact jersey in training camp maybe 503 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: and you're gonna tea him a new offense, a new 504 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: offense and count on him to be the savior. I mean, 505 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: if you're Denver or Carolina, I could make the argument 506 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: I'd rather a Mayfield than Darnald or Bridgewater, sure, but 507 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: maybe not that version of him At eighteen million in 508 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: the third round pick or something like seventeen touchdown passes 509 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 1: and thirteen interceptions this year, right, he could have had 510 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: way more Like he's not the mentor for Davis Mills 511 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: or next year's first round pick. I mean, like, I 512 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: just don't know where he fits in. He's a he's 513 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: a square peg, you know, in a big way. YEA 514 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: I wonder how many teams would have taken him number 515 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: one overall. I bet few. Yeah, I mean I think 516 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: most would have taken to Donald, which wouldn't have been 517 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: great either, But I mean, well, I mean, you never 518 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: know with the different situations. You never know how those 519 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: kind of things work out. Like you always worry about, 520 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: you know, is the quarterback being ruined? That's what the 521 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: same Trevor Lawrence, Zack Wilson, Like everybody would take Lawrence, Yeah, 522 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: and it probably would have gone better than this. I mean, 523 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: I thought Tim Couch was a was a talented quarterback 524 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: who landed in a bad situation in Cleveland that ruined him. 525 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: The dudes I worked with in Cleveland would often say, hey, 526 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: we've made our share mistakes. He was that guy was yeah, 527 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: right right and never had a chance, never had a chance. 528 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: But we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson. 529 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: I am Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here 530 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, we'll pick 531 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: our Saturday. We'll do that right after this.