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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown's Daley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck coming soon to Ohio on FIFESPN Cleveland. Here.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Tigura. Al Right,

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Speaker 1: let's do it live on the first Friday Miracle addition

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Speaker 1: to Cleve the Browns Daily. I'm merely bow he's the

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Speaker 1: great z. How you living, buddy? Well? A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: Number one, Well, all throughout some topics you would say,

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Speaker 1: where do you want to go? All right, choose your

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Speaker 1: own adventure. Wild news of the day of the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. We don't need to go there. I thought

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Speaker 1: you were going somewhere else with that, considering what we

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Speaker 1: just know, I'm saying, no, I like that would be

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Speaker 1: a tough for us to navigate. A Number two, hell

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Speaker 1: of a guide to get us through that. We really

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Speaker 1: would like the river and deliverance like you gotta we

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Speaker 1: need Magua would show us the way, the return of

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Speaker 1: the fruit stand collection back back and better than ever

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Speaker 1: Boulder and then three would be the the Nana Birthday meal.

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Speaker 1: And I can report on my the tenderloind So those

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Speaker 1: that's those are choose your own adventures for the day

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Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, okay, Um, so all of those are titillating.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if should we do we do that or

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Speaker 1: do we do the Brady thing first? Or the wild wild?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean three? Like major things have happened. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but the Brady is the Brady. Steff considered wild. I

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Speaker 1: mean it felt like where there was we did this

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Speaker 1: like anybody thought this was coming. And he was very

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Speaker 1: mad at Jim Gray. He's not pleased with Jim Gray

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Speaker 1: a week ago, but he could be mad and for

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Speaker 1: many of Jim's pastrans because because it's just being Jim Gray, right,

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Speaker 1: being curmudgeon for being Toby. Yeah, its a lot like that.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about Brady in this context. So there

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Speaker 1: we go. So we were we were, we were all

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Speaker 1: men were forty you mean, gibbet And as a kid,

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Speaker 1: like fourth Super Bowls it was almost a mythical number,

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Speaker 1: like the Steelers had four, and it was like, well,

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Speaker 1: even who could ever Well, no, I don't remember that either,

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Speaker 1: And and then you know, the Niners did it. Joe

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Speaker 1: the end of the conversation, that's the guy like that

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Speaker 1: when we have the conversation before that, And in those

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Speaker 1: then when Joe got the fourth, it was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed that The Patriots just retweeted there tweet from

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Speaker 1: the point right away. I'm retiring for good, for real.

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Speaker 1: I know the process was a pretty big deal last time.

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Speaker 1: I won't be long winded like you only get one

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Speaker 1: super emotional retirement essay, and I used my ute last year.

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Speaker 1: So really, thank you guys, so much to every single

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Speaker 1: I thought it was emotional. I thought it was genuine,

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Speaker 1: what it is. It's like when you would get the crayola.

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Speaker 1: It's red orange. There's a little orange to it. It

425
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Speaker 1: kind of looks like the bucks. You're the orange around

426
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Speaker 1: is clouding your vision if you went out there in

427
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Speaker 1: the wild. You tell me that's like Italian tablecloth. Read,

428
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Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. It's a little bit brighter than that.

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Speaker 1: But it is. It's definitely not Buck. I read. It's

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Speaker 1: not he's got buck I read on his shoe, on

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Speaker 1: his socks, so you can see that that's a little

432
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Speaker 1: bit of a deeper red. Correct, it is? This is

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Speaker 1: a bright red. I mean it is. That's who's gonna

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Speaker 1: watch it? Apparently I said that to me. I said

435
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Speaker 1: that ms K we were watching the trailer comes on,

436
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Speaker 1: I go, what is the likelihood that someone who is

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Speaker 1: such a fan of these four women, Lily Tomlin, Jane

438
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Speaker 1: Fonda alive or and cares about the NFL. There's no

439
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Speaker 1: cross section of human that is both interested in watching

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Speaker 1: that them and also interested in the NFL. I don't

441
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Speaker 1: know who it's for. I really don't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's is it for because it's never like dudes, No,

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Speaker 1: it's not for I don't think it's for women. Didn't

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Speaker 1: feel like it. That's what the trailers said to me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a weird. That's a strange young ladies.

446
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: I can see its like a real targeted demographic that

447
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Speaker 1: you're going after. No, that's true. Without a lot of

448
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Speaker 1: ven possibilities, it's very limited. Give me the Nana birthday dinner.

449
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Speaker 1: Oh boy, I saw the images are the images? So

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Speaker 1: we we took to the smoker. So this is something

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Speaker 1: that I'd never done before. I had heard a lot

452
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Speaker 1: about it, never did it before. So I got the tenderloin.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to my guys, taking great care of me

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Speaker 1: over there. Um where where? Well, my guys taking great

455
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Speaker 1: care of me over They know who they are. That's

456
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Speaker 1: all that matters, all right, that's all that matters. All right,

457
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Speaker 1: your guys over there taking care of it, great care

458
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Speaker 1: of me, great care, elite care, elite care. So the

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Speaker 1: recipe called for so I got it right after the show. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I went and picked up the tenderloin about four and

461
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Speaker 1: a half pounds. Nana request this. You have to understand,

462
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Speaker 1: Nana did not, and he trusted for me the whole deal. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Nana did not eat meat for like thirty years and

464
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Speaker 1: then just comes back and it feels like in the

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Speaker 1: last five years, she's back eating terms and legs at

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Speaker 1: Disney requesting a smoked tenderloin for her her birthday. Um,

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Speaker 1: So I get it, and what the rub on it?

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Speaker 1: So the first thing I want to do is lay

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Speaker 1: it out on some flat plastic. This is a trigger recipe.

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Speaker 1: Get a bowl basically a jar of Dijon mannise, a

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Speaker 1: main mustard. I keep calling the man, he's a jar

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Speaker 1: of Dijon mustard, a quarter cup of bourbon. And then

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Speaker 1: I pressed like six garlet clothes with that up into

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Speaker 1: like a paste and then just like sla all over

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Speaker 1: the meat, wrapped it. Tighten the plastic into the fridge

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Speaker 1: for an hour. I did about an hour and a half.

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Speaker 1: Back out, take the plastic off, and then cover it

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Speaker 1: with some kosher salt. And then I had a mixture

479
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Speaker 1: of black, red and green peppercorns and a fresh reminder.

480
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Speaker 1: Covered it with all that, all sides locked out, all in,

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Speaker 1: got the the smoker to one eight in there for

482
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Speaker 1: an hour, out, get the smoker up to four hundred.

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Speaker 1: Back in for about twenty It's thirty minutes, but in

484
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Speaker 1: this case is until the temp hit one thirty was

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Speaker 1: about twenty three minutes. Let it sit for ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: Slice it. Oh baby, it was heaven on the side

487
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Speaker 1: a little. You know, we like to do a little

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Speaker 1: ravioli and pesto. And how did it compare to a

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Speaker 1: souvid tender loin? So great question, glad you asked, Thank

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Speaker 1: you your war flavor. That's the thing with tender loins, right,

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Speaker 1: It is like typically you need a sauce you need

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Speaker 1: because you need itself, does not have amount, does not

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Speaker 1: have this was so flavor. Yeah, you've got a marinade

494
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Speaker 1: tendor loin or you have to on its own it is,

495
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Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot there. You really need to

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Speaker 1: have an aujou or a marination process that takes place.

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Speaker 1: So so this this then amps that up because you

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Speaker 1: have the smoke going through it absolutely and and then

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Speaker 1: the moisture, I think whatever it is with that, the moostard,

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Speaker 1: which I'm not a mustard guy at all, so this

501
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Speaker 1: is a very difficult thing for me to do. Yeah,

502
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: put mustard on beautiful beef, so just keeps the moisture.

503
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Speaker 1: It does and it actually it works well with it.

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Speaker 1: I have a I have a marinade for tender loin.

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Speaker 1: I did one in like a traditional way and then

506
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Speaker 1: one in a marinade that was a combination of of

507
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Speaker 1: of mustard, um soy and worcester Shire that I marinated

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Speaker 1: it in that had a delicious It was very very good.

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Speaker 1: My cousin does one call it. It's a mop. It's

510
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Speaker 1: kind of like a poison mop. So like a plum.

511
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Speaker 1: It gives it an Asian flavor and makes a great

512
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Speaker 1: crust on the outside, and like that's the other part

513
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Speaker 1: you give you the crispy And that's what I got

514
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Speaker 1: with the four Hunter. It was it was right. So Suvie,

515
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Speaker 1: I think I get a better like outside seared, because

516
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Speaker 1: then I finished it right there in like a cast iron,

517
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Speaker 1: like a super high temper and probably nine reason it

518
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Speaker 1: is just booming, Uh, the meat more flavorful here, Suvie

519
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Speaker 1: is easier in the sense that you know, timing wise

520
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Speaker 1: exactly what it is. This is like normal cooking in

521
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Speaker 1: the sense that you're reading the meat thermometer and so

522
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Speaker 1: sometimes it goes faster than you once. Sometimes it doesn't

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Speaker 1: go so but just a delight is very pleased, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very pleased. What about Artie Aarti Buckets her favorite of

525
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Speaker 1: all the tenderly she said at Buckets, I mean to

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Speaker 1: be but find smoked her operation. She is. She's had

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Speaker 1: a lot of very good stuff and from a food standpoint,

528
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Speaker 1: she eats everything, which is well documented on the show.

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Speaker 1: So I was curious her rating of it. She found

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Speaker 1: that I find her rating be valid. The smoked part

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Speaker 1: Tenderland was her favorite part ten lunch has ever had,

532
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Speaker 1: and this was her favorite beef tendan lunch that now

533
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Speaker 1: when I do it, one bite for be nothing zero

534
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Speaker 1: he's partaken, not not just sitting there right in front

535
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Speaker 1: of him. No interest. One bite. He had bucatini from Flower.

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553
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Speaker 1: wild day yesterday was in Denver. So it started out

554
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Speaker 1: reportedly with them making a one final push for Damiko

555
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Speaker 1: Ryan's he said, thanks, no, no, thanks, I'm gonna go

556
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Speaker 1: to Houston, Houston. Then there was Hey, Jim Harbaugh, are

557
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Speaker 1: you interested in in it? We just talked to you

558
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Speaker 1: last week. We came to Denver or Detroit rather to

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Speaker 1: meet with you and have a conversation. No, I don't

560
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Speaker 1: think so. It's kind of the reporting seems to make

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Speaker 1: me believe at that point. And then they ended up

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Speaker 1: with Sean Payton. So yesterday, after we got out of

563
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Speaker 1: the year, it became official Sean Payton the new head

564
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Speaker 1: coach of the Denver Broncos. The Saints are gonna get

565
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Speaker 1: the first round pick from Denver, but it's not. There's

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Speaker 1: it's one that I think went through San Francisco and

567
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Speaker 1: Miami Miami and then for Bradley Chubb for Bradley Chub.

568
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Speaker 1: So it's the twenty nine overall this year. So the Broncos,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the Saints get that pick. They get second

570
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Speaker 1: round selection as well as the future third in the deal. Um,

571
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: so this is less than what you thought it would be.

572
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Initially they were talking about two ones for Peyton and

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Speaker 1: it's not and it's not even Denver's own one because

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Speaker 1: they don't have it. Um. So this is the deal

575
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Speaker 1: that gets done, reportedly between seventeen and twenty million dollars

576
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Speaker 1: on the on the paycheck for Sean Payton, on this

577
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: um all of this. This is a convoluted way to

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Speaker 1: get here. But honestly, if you were going to they've

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Speaker 1: already invested what they've invested in Russell Wilson. There's no

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Speaker 1: way out of it. Is if there was a Russell

581
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Speaker 1: Wilson fixer out there, wouldn't he be the guy to

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Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, they're just obviously put themselves in a

583
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Speaker 1: in a in a really tough spot, right, And they

584
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: give up a one this year, they give up two

585
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Speaker 1: ones next year, and now you're doing Russell and Peyton combined.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's first and second and fifth first, second,

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Speaker 1: and another first and then next year's second plus three

588
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: other players in no offense, Shelby, Harristrew locks. So what

589
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: to get Sean Payton, Russell Williams as well as a

590
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: fourth round defensive end that they picked a year ago.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot. Like it's a lot. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot because of what we saw from Wilson,

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Speaker 1: if you went back a year ago and we didn't

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Speaker 1: see what we saw from Wilson with Nathaniel Hackett, and

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Speaker 1: I told you you have what the Broncos have on

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Speaker 1: defense and what they have on offense, and they don't

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Speaker 1: have Bradley Chubbs, that's certainly taking some of it out.

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00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: But if you go back a year ago and you

599
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Speaker 1: said this is the bounty and you get Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: in his prime and you get Sean Payton to all

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Speaker 1: the plays, you probably I probably would have said, quite honestly,

602
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Speaker 1: well that feels like now you're gonna going to be

603
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender. But you gotta remember that at

604
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Speaker 1: the time of the Wilson trade, like Denver was a

605
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Speaker 1: quarterback away, it was Wilson and it was Rogers, which

606
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: everyone went there going to the Super Bowl, that that

607
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: was it. That's all we talked about. Like, and then

608
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Wilson sucked that the whole operation was approaching matters and

609
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: you saw the Jags what that could do there. And

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson certainly more accompts at this point than Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's wild to me for a couple of ways.

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Speaker 1: Number One, if I'm Sean Payton. I feel like if

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Speaker 1: I waited one more year, I probably have a chance

614
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Speaker 1: at Dallas or the Chargers. See the Chargers. But it

615
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Speaker 1: goes to what I always say, They're not paying him

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars because just that family will fans up

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Speaker 1: paying anybody. That's where you would want to go. I

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Speaker 1: think if he was, if money were, but it is

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Speaker 1: an object. They're they're going to have their own issues

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Speaker 1: with doing the Herbert contract and and they were not.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna pay Staleley not to coach, and they're

622
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Speaker 1: not gonna pay twenty million dollars for a coach to coach.

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Speaker 1: So it was not gonna be there. It was gonna

624
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Speaker 1: be pace. That's the best circumstance. It's just other than ownership. Yeah,

625
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Speaker 1: wild though how quickly that all happened, like pretty late news.

626
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Speaker 1: It was four o'clock for thirty ye both after our

627
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Speaker 1: show to Mecco. Ryan's now and we'll see does this

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Speaker 1: I still I find it. It's amazing to me we

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Speaker 1: still have a vic Fangio firm update unless we do that,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen. Well the crazy thing about that we

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Speaker 1: talked about that yesterday. So was it Pella Saro who

632
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Speaker 1: reported the fourth year option to Miami, and then Mike

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Speaker 1: Silver was like, actually no, my sources Vic Fangio, and

634
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Speaker 1: he's not agreed to do that. He could be waiting out.

635
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Well, I wouldn't think he'd go back to Denver,

636
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: but I would point out it's different ownership, right he

637
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: was that coaching was let go, or he has a

638
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: great affection for Kyle Shanahan and he could replace to

639
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: Mecco with forty. Yeah, so there's still all of those options.

640
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: If I'm NGO, I'm going to the forty nine because

641
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: I want to. I don't want to be in the

642
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: a f C. Wouldn't think I want to be in

643
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: the NFC. I do think it's wild that if you

644
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: think about the major decisions from a either trade, either

645
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: a player acquisition standpoint or coaching standpoint, in the last

646
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: little over a year in the league, all of them

647
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: willingly chose a f C. We just did. Sean Payton

648
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: chose to stay in the a f C. He chose

649
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: to go take on Mahomes twice a year, Herbert twice

650
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: a year. Deshaun Watson chose to come here and play

651
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: in the a f C could have gone to Atlanta,

652
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: could have gone to Carolina. Chose to come here and

653
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: do that. Russell Wilson chose to go to Denver. Like

654
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: it sounds like Rogers is going to choose to go

655
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: to the Jets and they can make that work. They

656
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: just want to stay in Green Bay. I have no idea,

657
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: but it's like the biggest things that have happened in

658
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: this league. They could have shifted the balance of power

659
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: and even it out a little bit. All headed to

660
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: the a f C. In fact, NFC just law Tom Brady.

661
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: That's correct. So the two jobs, there are two jobs

662
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: still open Arizona and in Indie. And Indie's interviewed everybody,

663
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: everybody and anybody eight times. Have we heard much about

664
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: Arizona's process? Lou and a Rumo, the Bengals defensive coordinator,

665
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: interviewed there. But I haven't. I haven't heard anything about that.

666
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think anybody cares about Arizona either, Like

667
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if people in Arizona care about Arizona,

668
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Tyler, But that's a tepid

669
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: fan base, Like nobody cares. But that's a it feels

670
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: like that could be a place where you could have

671
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: a quick springboard if you like Kyler, Yeah, if you

672
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: can reach him, yeah, if you if you could get that,

673
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: that would be a place where you would I mean

674
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: that division is very, very winnable other than San Francisco,

675
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still there's there are questions about forty

676
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: Niners right now, who's playing quarterback? What does that look like? Yeah?

677
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: And then it's you know, from the indie standpoint, Okay,

678
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to step on something. If we have

679
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: it are a little bit later in the show. I

680
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: know we have Tonio two thirty offseason breakdown. Okay, yeah,

681
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: I can get to this. So did you see the

682
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: story today from a Brier that the Bears are trading one.

683
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: They're keeping fields, they're trading one. Their their intent is

684
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: to trade the number one pick in the draft, and

685
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: the're gonna build around and and the Bears are are

686
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna build around fields. They have a hundred million

687
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: in cap space, and so they're gonna build around fields,

688
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna put the number one pick

689
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: up for auction. In doing so, you would I would

690
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: if I were them, I would say I want to know.

691
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: I want this deal done before the new league year,

692
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: before free agency, so that we can figure out how

693
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna build this and where we're gonna be picking

694
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: it wherever we're picking. So I would put a timetable

695
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: on it and say give me your best finals now,

696
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: we want this done. Um. When when did we trade

697
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: the Wentz pick? That happened right around the new year?

698
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: That happened very tampering it was, and even the when

699
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: Washington moved ahead of us. That happened the r G

700
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: three year as well. There was that the Rams right, yeah, yeah,

701
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 1: that happened right around the So you if you're the Bears,

702
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: you say best Final now, boy, I remember that Carson

703
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: went for him. It was announced by their team's website

704
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 1: while we were on air. How'd that go? Read it?

705
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: Officials said? The Eagles are saying it pretty sure. Feels

706
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: like they're officials. So. Um, so that that that ties

707
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: into the Indie pick potentially because they the best package

708
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: I would think that the Bears could get would be

709
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: from Indie and they could still get who they would

710
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: most likely still get who. They would take it one.

711
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: They will get it for, They'll get it for so

712
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: the thinking would be kid from either the kid from Georgia,

713
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: the kid from Alabami, either Will Anderson or the Jalen Carter.

714
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 1: So you can do if you if you do that deal,

715
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: you would get four. You'd get there too, so that

716
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: would replace the two you gave up for Claypool and

717
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: then there one next year. It seems like the minimal,

718
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: minimal asking price for Indie to move up to number

719
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: one overall. Um. The other teams that would want to

720
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: do that would probably be Carolina because temper and he's

721
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: not afraid, like he's bold. So and if you're Houston,

722
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: do you just want to secure the bag? That's where

723
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: I was going because because Houston, you blew it boy

724
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: in your last game as big as you can blow

725
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: it Bigley, they went from controlling the draft to not overnight,

726
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: I want a true So it's funny. So I was

727
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: in the in the gym h Monday with one of

728
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: our coaches who had played in the league, and we

729
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: were talking about that that game and what had happened,

730
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: and he was like flabbergasted. Yeah, that I even thought

731
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: it was like a reasonable thing to make sure you

732
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: did not win that game like blown away and I

733
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: was like, what don't we understand here, because he's like,

734
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: how can you can't go? And he's like, you lose

735
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: locker room. He got fired. Anyway, you had a whole

736
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: year to build it back, a whole new team. That's

737
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: what I said. I said, first of all the rosters

738
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: turning over, you know that first general, you're superstars. I

739
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: think would be very much aligned with you saying okay,

740
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: now we can get you the quarterback. It's gonna help

741
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: us and get the superstars Brandon, they don't have anything

742
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: like Tunsil, like I'm guessing right. But my point was

743
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: just at the top ten people will be on on board.

744
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: And so you just like, could I can wrap it? No?

745
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: And I said, you gotta think about it. You don't

746
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: have to win every battle. You want to win the war,

747
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: and so this is one that maybe it makes sense,

748
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of strategic advantage to lose this

749
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: to win that. He's like, I gotta win every battle.

750
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: I gotta win Everyward said, okay, I said, I'm gonna

751
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: hate you right now with what At the time, you know,

752
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: it was a very very fun movie, but I didn't

753
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 1: realize it possessed deep philis optical qualities. And I'm talking

754
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: about the fine film starring Woody Harrelson, Rosie Prez white

755
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: Man can't hup Wesley Snipe's terrible basketball player, as it

756
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: turns out, turns out indeed he was. There's a scene

757
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: where Rosie's talking to Billy and she says this I

758
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: thought was poigned. Sometimes when you win, you really lose,

759
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: and sometimes when you lose, you really win. I also

760
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: want to say, sometimes when you win or lose, you

761
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: actually tie. So I hit him with that and he

762
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 1: said respect. So Damiko. Ryan's went from picking who he

763
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: wanted it one overall to now being at the mercy

764
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: of whatever the Bears do or they ever they traded.

765
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: And the one thing I'll say being around this is

766
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: as long as I have and having the privilege doc

767
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: to many general manner like there never is a case

768
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: where they feel like the two quarterbacks are the same,

769
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: never are the same. Prospect we will get the same

770
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: out of it, like we're a finding the way. Never never,

771
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: they always have. Everybody's got a favorite. Yes you might

772
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: be wrong, you may be misidentified totally. But you went

773
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: from being able to pick your favorite to maybe not,

774
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: which goes back to the ridiculous arguments we used to

775
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: have in the year two thousand and eighteen draft. Just

776
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: take se Kwon one and then whatever quarterbacks there for

777
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: your fine? No, no, no, no, you get one chance.

778
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: You get one chance. Yeah, but you want to it. Yeah,

779
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: you can blow it absolutely, but you you've done the

780
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: work you want at least you want to pick the

781
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: guy you believe in. Yeah to do it? Um all right? Uh.

782
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: NFL Free Agency countdown Top fifty available players will hit that.

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00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: with the Bears, Like if this was done because he

786
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: knew he was getting fired for the Yeah, if that

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, here we are. Here's who's available four this

795
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: free agent class. Lamar's number one, but he won't be

796
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: because he's got to sign it, right, He's got to

797
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: sign it. Yeah, or and Oh Brown with Kansas City

798
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: on the so defensive tackles, Javon Hargrave at a Philly

799
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: and Doron Payne. That would be a guy right there.

800
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: Give me Payne at twenty six, Give it to me,

801
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: Give it to me and Jack Or I take Hardgrave too,

802
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: And that's those guys are very appealing. As I'm going

803
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: through this list, I mean it's some names, you know,

804
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, I'll tell you what. One more one more

805
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: commentary on just the uh quick comment on like the NFC.

806
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: As I'm looking through this, like the Eagles are gonna

807
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: be an entirely different team next year. Yeah, you're just

808
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: saw hard Grave, Barry Bradberry, n C. J. Gardner, Johnson

809
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: all in the top four teen. Yeah, I mean there's

810
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: a ton of them. You know. It's interesting, like you

811
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: gotta go all the way to twenty one to find

812
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers wide receiver, Odell at twenty six, Juju at Um,

813
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: Marcus Davenport's an interesting one. DJ Chark at thirty six.

814
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: I like DJ Chark as a value for the Browns

815
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: and some for reticle speed. Won't cost a fortune, Yeah,

816
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: that's it though. No, it is not a fifty. There's

817
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: not a lot of receivers. It is not a receiver

818
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: rich class in any way, shape or form. Any way,

819
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: shape or form. Yeah, I mean for for us, it's

820
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: you know, like pain would be the home run, Yeah,

821
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: because that's somebody that can be a superstar for you

822
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: for some time. Yeah, that would be the way to

823
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: do that. There's not a lot out there, you know,

824
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: you do. You never know what's gonna happen in free

825
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: agents or in through the in the trade market, or

826
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: but those trades are hard to make in the league.

827
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: They are, they are. But I think you've got to

828
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: be to your point. You you can maybe make a

829
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: splash or two in free agency, but for the most part,

830
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: you've got to be smart and get people who end

831
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: up being better here than they would have been other places.

832
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: Like Chark average seventeen yards of catch six four. That's

833
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: he He'd be perfect for us and one cost a

834
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: fortune because the production hasn't been there. When you say

835
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: his name, can you do anything other than what do

836
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: you think do it? You're already doing. I saw your

837
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: head move and I know what you're doing. Yeah, shared

838
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: do every time I read it by shod baby, shuck daddy. Right,

839
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: that's it, of course, Yeah, for sure, nailed it. Yeah,

840
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: come on, man, we share the same brain. Yeah. So

841
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: that's uh. But but it's it's not a it's not

842
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: a robust and and honest to god buddy at any

843
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: position because Lamar is not getting the free agency, so

844
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: at any position, there's not a whole lot of splash here.

845
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Like se Kwan Barkley is a free agent, but they'll

846
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: sort something out with him. Yeah what, I don't know

847
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: how you do it? Why would you pay him? I

848
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: know I'm not saying you would, but like they will

849
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: keep him. I mean the Bengals have insurance for Jesse

850
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: bates um right well and von Bell both of them,

851
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: they're both both, Yeah, they have, I mean you would.

852
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this from a NFL big picture,

853
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: what's going on this offseason, I'm not sure that there

854
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: is a more intriguing team than Cincinnati because they have

855
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: both safeties. They've got Logan Wilson who they can do

856
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: a deal with they can do te Higgins. They have

857
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: to decide what they're gonna do with that Wilson in

858
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: the middle of their defense. And then Burrow, like Burrows

859
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: hanging over this whole operation and everything I'm hearing down there,

860
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: like Ownership wants to do the Borrow deal now, like

861
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: they want it done. They want to get that, they

862
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: want to extended, they want the number whatever he's getting

863
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: figured out. Why they don't, it's not that he doesn't

864
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: from what I from people I've talked to you down there,

865
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: nobody even really knows what he wants. They don't know

866
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: what his motivation is. I think because of his upbringing,

867
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: because of kind of his brand, if you will, for

868
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, I think some people think

869
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: that he's gonna take less and do team friendly and

870
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: do always stuff. I don't think that he will um.

871
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: But I also think that it's a tricky spot for

872
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: that organization, And I'm glad that they're gonna it's gonna

873
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: be tricky for them because we work at this organization.

874
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: But they've got a lot that they got to get

875
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: sorted out. Like I mean, you think about Higgins, Wilson, Bates, Bell,

876
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean Apple to a lesser extent, I want to

877
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:16,399
Speaker 1: say Hurst, I think Hayden Hurst is a free agent. Yes, yeah,

878
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: that Adam draft in a tight end and many of

879
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: these mocks or some but then you mentioned then you

880
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: didn't even at this point get to Jamaar Chase, which

881
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: is next year, next year, and he is going to

882
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: have to get paid and he'll be top, he'll be

883
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: the number one paid receiver because he's getting him and

884
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson, Will Jefferson Jefferson done now? Right? Because they're

885
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: no the same class, are they? No? No, they're not.

886
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 1: Chase is a year younger. Yeah, so Jefferson will getting

887
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: done this ye, Chase will reset the market next year

888
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: the next year with Burrow resetting like that, And what

889
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: are you gonna pay te Higgins and to Higgins remember

890
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: was the first pick of the second round, so you

891
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: don't have a fifth year option on him and on Burrow? Well,

892
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: how do they decide what the market is? Is the

893
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: market Deshaun Watson? What years? This for Burrow? This was

894
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: his third? Next year's is four? They can always they're

895
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: gonna they have two years. I mean they want to

896
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: get it done now. They want it done now. They

897
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: can fifth year option in Yeah, yeah, they but they

898
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: want to. They can push that, they will, they want to.

899
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: And the other thing on the one minisconception on Burrow

900
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: they could do it. If they do it now, he

901
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: would still play under an eleven million dollar hit next

902
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: year and a seventeen millet neam dollar hit the year after,

903
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: So it's not like the fifty number or whatever it's

904
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: gonna be. That won't be until three years from now.

905
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: So they can kick this can down the road a

906
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: little bit. It's an extension, but there they don't have

907
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: to give him money. They got a lot going on.

908
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: They've got a lot going on the Baltimore Ravens, have

909
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: a lot going on with Lamar Jackson. Um my hunch.

910
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the Chargers, But they'll just do

911
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: the fifth year option on Herbert. There's no way that

912
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: they're going to be I'm sure they would like to

913
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: do a long term thing, but I don't even know

914
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: how you go about that. It just depends what they

915
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: have cash on hand to be able to lock into that.

916
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: You know, silly s grow thing, right. Yeah, So Kyler

917
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 1: was one Andy guaranteed. Sean was two thirty guaranteed. Mahomes

918
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: was one fifty and it was four over ten for him. Um,

919
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: so would just be how do you define how you

920
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: want to reset it? But all of that can happen

921
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: this summer. Yeah, that's gonna be wild. Moral of the

922
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: story here from from our vantage point though, if you

923
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: look at this list, you think of pain and I

924
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: think a shark. Shark, those are the two guys that

925
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: that you that kind of you look at these top

926
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: fifty guys who could be targets. Jesse Bates is an

927
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: interesting one. It's not bad either with Denver the defensive tackle. Yeah,

928
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: smaller though, yeah, smaller, you know, I mean, pain is everything,

929
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: pain the whole operation. Yeah, I look at age and

930
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: I try to think about how would it Trent? You know,

931
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: where would it go? Har Grave is great too, but

932
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: that is a short that's shorter term, you know. Yeah,

933
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: so it's not loaded. So you're gonna you could go

934
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: big game hunting on Pain, medium game hunting on maybe

935
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: somebody else, maybe a receiver and shark, and then you

936
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: gotta hit on the second round. All right, that's gotta

937
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: be a dude that's gonna be a contributor in the

938
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: second round. You needs to be a receiver who can

939
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: get deep, or it needs to be a starter on

940
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Yes, because those two aren't on the

941
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: roster right now. Those are your three biggas needs. Yeah,

942
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: get those things sorted out. Yeah, I gotta get it

943
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: done alright. Second hour of the program up next off

944
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: season position breakdown. What do you know? It hits on

945
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: the defensive ends, the edge rushers. We will get to that.

946
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: You will also get to Joel Botonio coming up at

947
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour from the Las Vegasset to

948
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: Clevelbrounds Daily brought you by Bally Bet, Coming soon, Ohio

949
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:52,880
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951
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: Takes the snap, drops, looks right side. Oh he got buried.

952
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett buried him back at the twenty six yard line.

953
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: Man even I cringed watching that. Follow the gun from

954
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: his own thirty takes the snap and looks he got shot.

955
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett got him off the blind side and pecked

956
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: him back at the twenty five yard line. You know

957
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: he does what does he? You know? Was playing dominant

958
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: out there. He's very difficult for people to block one

959
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: on one, so he gets a ton of attention. And

960
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: when when that happens, others are getting one on one

961
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: pressure coming and he lost the ball, close ball and

962
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: the ponds are wanted. He got it at the twenty

963
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: two yard line. Should they be in clony n get

964
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: out of there? Choral play action fake him comes the

965
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: bricks where they got home. Isaiah Thomas got him back

966
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: at the thirty four yard line. How about that? What

967
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: a sack by the rookie Thomas running near side? Oh

968
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: one on ice play Alex right up on the corner.

969
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: He comes in and wraps his arms around JK. Dobbins

970
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: and knocks him down at the thirty six and a

971
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: half yard line. To work that he put in and

972
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 1: just his will and you know his wanting to get

973
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: to the quarter that you know, just watching him when

974
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: I first came up, it was like unbelievable, Like how

975
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: he could you know, transition and move and you know,

976
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: be nimble and stuff like that. He's got it. He's

977
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: back to pass inside the ted I got ahead of it. Tack,

978
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gontl Scarrot got home all the way back

979
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: in the ten yard line, back to pass. Here come

980
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: the Browns right out right in. They got him, Miles Garrett,

981
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: come him out of the shotgun, looking left, growing left.

982
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: That's tipped at the line of scrimmage. The Browns are

983
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: thinking maybe a fumble. I think that was Miles Carrot,

984
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: and I think that is a sack strip fumble, and

985
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: he will be now with the Browns all time sack leader.

986
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: And look at them come off the sideline. Big play

987
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: from your star when you needed it. It's nice to

988
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: be recognized and an honor. But at the end of

989
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: the day, you know, winners are rememberable, and so I

990
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 1: can have all the individual records I wanted. That'll that'll

991
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: come and go. But winners they they there were many

992
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: parts of people forever, especially in this town. Alright, time

993
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: for the offseason position breakdown. We are on the edge

994
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: on the roster the defensive end. Miles Garrett sixteen sacks

995
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: last season, tied for second in the National Football League,

996
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: thirty seven tackles, two force fumbles in those sixteen games.

997
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Behind him, it gets Dicey Alex right the second rynder

998
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: out of two thousand and twenty two, just thirteen tackles

999
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: in seventeen games. Wild, He had five passes. Defense, he

1000
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: played against the run pretty well, did not generate a

1001
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: lot of pressures, single digit pressures, zero sacks. Now they

1002
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,919
Speaker 1: knew though, to be fair, let me just go be fair.

1003
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: He was considered more of a long term project coming

1004
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: out of Alabama Birmingham in terms of adjusting to the

1005
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: NFL and those concepts. That's what everybody said, come along

1006
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: slowly and eventually you'd wanted to be the big end

1007
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: opposite Miles. Now can he still do that? Us? Will

1008
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: he have to really dedicate himself this offseason. Absolutely, but

1009
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: a talented kid that they very much believe in. It

1010
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: just did not manifest itself as a rookie. And also

1011
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: it can also be all those things and also be

1012
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: disappointing that, I mean, do not have a sack on

1013
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 1: the third rounders? Pretty wild, no doubt. Yeah. Isaiah Thomas,

1014
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: the seventh rounder two did have a sack. Four tackles

1015
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: in just ten games. Uh, Jadeveon Clowney, there's a void

1016
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 1: on that. So I'd be shocked, although who knows, but

1017
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if he would. I think that's done.

1018
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: The ship sailed on that Chase Winovich situation with him

1019
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: with when played good but just injured there at the

1020
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: big sack numbers you wanted, but but the impact was

1021
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: there and he was very noticeable generated pressures consistently when

1022
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: he was in the lineup. He was the one whose

1023
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: pressure led to the pick six against Houston. He got

1024
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: the tip that led to that pick six. Uh, played

1025
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: the run better than they thought. I wouldn't be surprised

1026
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: if if he was somebody they'd be interested in bringing back.

1027
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: As you know in this room, the third fourth type

1028
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: of a guy, you know, that sub package pass rusher.

1029
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: He probably he fits better in a more of traditional

1030
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: three four where he's a stand up outside linebacker, but

1031
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: with Jim Schwartz wide nine, he can get out there wide.

1032
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: And I thought played well, plays hard, gives you all.

1033
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: He's got the injury bug has just bid him the

1034
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: last couple of years. But wouldn't mind to see Chase back.

1035
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: Obviously friend of the show as well, tremendous entertaining character,

1036
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: but somebody who just really gets after it. And I

1037
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: want to go back to IAKA, oh yeah, huge loves

1038
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: all that. Uh. Isaiah Thomas our sevenths around pick he

1039
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: was the one who actually led you know, Oklahoma and

1040
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: sacks each of the last two seasons. His teammate got

1041
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: picked Nick. I want something to be like the second

1042
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: round by the Broncos. He had that stretch there where

1043
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: he had the sack against Cincinnati, he had a fumble

1044
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: recovery and some pressures against Baltimore the week before that

1045
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: was like week seven. Week ame back to back and

1046
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, this guy's got a chance to do

1047
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: something here. Now he got injured, he missed some time

1048
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: as it went on. I'm I think Isaiah Thomas one

1049
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: of those guys where it's gonna always the results be

1050
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: better than maybe it looks. That's how it was for

1051
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: him at Oklahoma. But you've got Garrett Right needs to

1052
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: step up in a major way this year, and I

1053
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: think you need to add somebody, a veteran of some

1054
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: consequence there. You know you could carry the five Garrett right, Thomas.

1055
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: If you brought Winovitch back. You know they like Stephen

1056
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: Weatherly while he was here, he ends up getting hurt.

1057
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 1: Odom's the one they brought into I believe it was

1058
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: was it the USFL that he led in sacks. He

1059
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: led one of those defunction leagues in Sacks was I

1060
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: believe in high school went the high school with Miles something.

1061
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: If I recall that, right, I'll go get my preseason notes.

1062
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: But you don't have the the Miles elite elite somebody's

1063
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: got to step up on right now. You can't go

1064
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: into it saying, you know, Alex Wright starting every you

1065
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 1: know is our number two defensive end. So I still

1066
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: think that's a position that needs to be addressed. Yeah,

1067
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: if you think about that defensive line we had the

1068
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: year that we made the playoffs, and you think about

1069
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: what you thought you were gonna have for a considerable

1070
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: amount of time, or at least what you were building

1071
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: to the way. And I know we're just doing edge

1072
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: right now, but you had young guys you'd invested in

1073
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: in the draft and you just need and I'm sure

1074
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: we'll get to deef tackles tomorrow or whatever, but like

1075
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: you need some of these guys that were mid round

1076
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: picks to go. It's time to go. You think, remember

1077
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: the tack McKinley, when we had Jadevion and we had

1078
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: Miles and we attack and that we were gonna that

1079
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: was that package. We had the two big guys in

1080
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: the middle like that, that type of look of offense

1081
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: defensive line. We're a long ways from that now going

1082
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: into this offseason. Oh, we most certainly are. And I

1083
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: think that's a tough thing. You know, you go back

1084
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: to was Olivia Vernon? Yeah, that's right, So twenty one

1085
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: would have been with and McDowell, Jackson, Lownie and Tack

1086
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: and Miles. Yeah. I mean we're a long way away

1087
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: from that right now. Unfortunately, we are a long long

1088
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: way away from that, And that to me is one

1089
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: of the tough things about the situation that the Browns

1090
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 1: are and on this defensive line is you're right, you've

1091
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: invested third round Jordan Elliott and now he played better

1092
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:00,479
Speaker 1: as the year went on, But you're certainly not saying

1093
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: that's our you know, number one defensive tackle. I thought

1094
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: Taven Bryan had some nice moments for you. But Tommy

1095
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: Toya is it looks it appears that you know, he's

1096
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: maybe on his way out. I don't know, it just

1097
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it's it's happening there. Um, But you've

1098
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: got to be able to get, yes, some interior help,

1099
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: but you're gonna need more help on the edge the

1100
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: other we went to the playoffs, which was h and

1101
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: you talk about it, boy, I would have This would

1102
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: have been a fun one to get you guys on

1103
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: all right real quick. Who is our leading tackler? Lead

1104
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: the team with ninety one tackles? Are leading tackler. That's right.

1105
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: These years run together, man, they do. I'll give you

1106
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: a point if there's I'll give you the if you're

1107
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: out looking at it. Uh. Yes. I would not have

1108
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: had number two. Uh, and you would a nailed it

1109
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: right away number one. Yes. But just because I remember

1110
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: that season, because of a play that happened at the

1111
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: end of the year, I would remember that he was

1112
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: our mic linebacker. That's a good hint. They run together

1113
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: for me. Give it to me, you ready, Gibbey b J. Goodson, No,

1114
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: not d J. Goodson's j. B J. Goodson is not

1115
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: coming out of my head mouth. He was our mic

1116
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: linebacker there. Malcolm Smith was second, Karl Joseph was third,

1117
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: our safety easier than we went to the playoffs where

1118
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: Carl Joseph and Sandejo that's right, Yeah, we're our safeties

1119
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: are lines. That's your grant gets hurt in and then

1120
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: Ronnie comes over, Ronnie comes over and is good. He

1121
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: was really good. Our defensive line was Miles and Olivier Vernon.

1122
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: Vernon had nine sacks that year. He was remember that

1123
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: was people minimize that he was. He really really good

1124
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: before that injury. The other that's the COVID year too,

1125
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: So none of us are in the building like that

1126
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: was wild. Sheldon, Richard s Ever met b J. Goodson.

1127
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: Shell didn't Richard because that's COVID. I don't think so. Sheldon,

1128
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: Richardson and Ogan Jobie were. Sheldon was good. And then

1129
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: remember Adrian Claiborne, I do he was our third then

1130
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: that year out Ohiowa rent from a first round pick. Yeah,

1131
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: I remember. I remember thinking that even in the moment,

1132
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: that people here didn't appreciate Sheldon and Olivier for as

1133
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: good as they were in the moment, Yes, that those

1134
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: guys were both they were pros. They were pros. I love,

1135
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: I love incredible in the middle. Yeah, yeah, those Larry's

1136
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: one you want to talk about got Away he can play.

1137
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: He can play, yea, he can play. Was very good

1138
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati and he was gone. I was gone at

1139
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: that point. But like he's another one that's been a

1140
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: really nice pro. Oh yeah, I was gone the year

1141
01:00:54,560 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: before that for one for one for Eric Murray. Yeah,

1142
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: it's a it is a you know forever, you know,

1143
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 1: you think about you're trying to find something. We've gone

1144
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: into how many drafts since we've drafted Miles saying we

1145
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: get to have some of the opposite Miles and that's

1146
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: what they hope is for, right, But I mean there

1147
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: was the early returns did not indicate that he's gonna

1148
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: explain now some people do. Some people takes a few

1149
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: years and look at Hassan Reddick. And I'm not saying

1150
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: he's a Son Reddick at all, but if you were

1151
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: to look at Hassan Reddick, who right now is maybe

1152
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: at least through the postseason, the most dominant pass rusher

1153
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: in the league, unbelievable. It didn't start like that for

1154
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: him at all. Let's say, if I can pull him up,

1155
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: I think his first years in the league, he had

1156
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: Let's see Son Reddick year one Arizona was a first

1157
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: round pick. Remember that year overall? Son Reddick in his

1158
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: first year still first round pick, two and a half,

1159
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: second year, four sacks, thirty year, one sack. Last year

1160
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: in Arizona twelve and a half goes to Carolina, eleven

1161
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: goes to Philly sixteen. Right, and it's not a coincidence

1162
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: that his biggest numbers come from the playing with the

1163
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 1: defensive line they have in Philly, no doubt. But still

1164
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: three three years in a row, double digit sacks, three

1165
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: different teams. Is now he's on it. Unprecedented in pretty good. Yeah,

1166
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: he's he's absolutely on it in a big part of it. Um,

1167
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: how will the edge rushers look different under Jim Schwartz.

1168
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: We'll see some more wide alignments. You will see those

1169
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: guys be able to move around the line. So not

1170
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: a ton, but too many difference the personnel. The personnel

1171
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: is this be wildly different upfront? I mean I would

1172
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,479
Speaker 1: say right now, Garrett and right are on the roster.

1173
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas, seventh round pick. I like him. I think

1174
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: they like him too. But yeah, it's it could be.

1175
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: It could look completely different here. Uh, And that's a

1176
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: room that you need to deliver. You need guys up

1177
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 1: front who can deliver for you. You know they're really

1178
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: and there aren't free agent answers, and those guys cost

1179
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: a lot of money for a reason. You know, Davenport's

1180
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: a guy that has flashed Marcus Davenborg, the Saints traded

1181
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: up for a few years ago. He's had moments, but

1182
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to stay healthy, and that's one

1183
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: of the reasons why he's likely to be a fridge.

1184
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: It was the fourteenth overall in two thousand and eighteen

1185
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: in he had his best year nine sacks last year,

1186
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: had a half a sack the year before at one

1187
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: point five sex. So no consistency whatsoever. But you know,

1188
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: good tape, good clay per se six six to seventy.

1189
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: But what's he can offense on the open market. I

1190
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: haven't come half a half a half a sack. You know,

1191
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: it's this one. It's gotta look different. It's gotta look different,

1192
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: and it's got to be productive, and there's gotta be

1193
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 1: somebody that can consistently help take pressure off of Miles Garrett.

1194
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about this year and what was

1195
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: so difficult for our team, and it was really simple.

1196
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: Let's just run it down. Let's go through it here.

1197
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett sixteen sacks as give a noted, tied for

1198
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: second in the NFL, obviously led our team. Right. Who

1199
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: was the running buddy for him who who helped him

1200
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: out in that category, Well, the answer was Taven Bryan

1201
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: was second with three sacks. Dion Jones was third with

1202
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: two and a half sacks. Dean Jones played eleven games

1203
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: and joined the team mid season as an off ball

1204
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: linebacker with two sacks. He had Jacob Phillips and off

1205
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 1: ball linebacker who played seven games. So that's from Blitz

1206
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: is Jordan Elliott two sacks, Clowney two sacks. Then you

1207
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: get to Martin Emerson one, Tackie Taki one win of

1208
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: Itch one, Isaiah Thomas one. I mean nobody, nobody else.

1209
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 1: As a group, we had thirty four sacks. Sixteen of

1210
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: them were Miles Garrett and in fact of the defensive line,

1211
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: take Miles out of it. The entire rest of the

1212
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: defensive line he had three from Taven Brian to from

1213
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: Elliott too. From Clin that's seven. Win of Itch one,

1214
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: Thomas one, that's nine. The rest of your defender on

1215
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 1: win for you got a half until you got ten

1216
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: sacks from the rest of your entire defensive line. Parin

1217
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: Winfeyett was robbed of two sacks, by the way, just

1218
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: noted all right, So if you look at this, and

1219
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: you say, how do you improve upon it? You tell

1220
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: me what's wrong about what I'm saying. Adding to the

1221
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,479
Speaker 1: defensive end room. You do that in draft, you're gonna

1222
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna draft a defensive end with one of your picks,

1223
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: and then probably a cheap free agent, a veteran either

1224
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: looking to play with miles and get a good year

1225
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: similar to what I mean. Clowney was the apex of

1226
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: that two years ago. So somebody like that someone or

1227
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: someone who hasn't blossomed, like similar to tack right, the

1228
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: guy who was a first round pick who hasn't worked

1229
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: and had a cheap one someone on a cheap one

1230
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: year deal. So that's a cheap free agent, and then

1231
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna draft one defensive tackle. You've got a draft

1232
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: one and you need to do a free agent. Yeah,

1233
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: I would say that a defensive end. If you brought

1234
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: back let's say Winovich on a cheap deal and another

1235
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: guy that was like a little bit higher rent than him.

1236
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: I think you could get away without drafting a defensive

1237
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: end this year because you've got two guys that are

1238
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: right as very young and Thomas that you drafted a

1239
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: year ago, So you could get away without a draft pick.

1240
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: But you need I think two people need to be

1241
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: brought in, one certainly of consequence, the other with the

1242
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: potential to be of consequence. You need a guy. You

1243
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: tell me what's wrong about this. You need to bring

1244
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: in a guy of consequence at defensive end and defensive tackle.

1245
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. It's accurate. It's gotta have it. Yeah,

1246
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe two. That's why I mean the d

1247
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: tackle thing. It's a second or third round or like, look,

1248
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: it's you gotta hit on it. Defensive tackle. Jordan Elliott

1249
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: and Perry On. Perion needs to become a pro. If

1250
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: he does, he has the gifts to become a very

1251
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: important piece. Elliott, I feel like it is what he is.

1252
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: You need to add a number one and then maybe

1253
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: a specialized number two, which would be just like a

1254
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: beefy space eater for early downs. You can get away

1255
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: with the rotation that had a real number one, a

1256
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: big like space eater, and then lead and winfree as

1257
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: your rotation. You can get away with that. And Taven Bryan,

1258
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: I think you have no problem bringing back as a

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Speaker 1: rotational player, but he's not going to be your one

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Speaker 1: or two. Maybe Ere two if you had a real one. Yeah,

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01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: but you have to do you have to land on

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01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 1: all these things because this you are in the middle

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Speaker 1: of Miles Prime. You have three monstrous needs. You're exactly right,

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01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: and they come. Two of those monsters needs are on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line and the other as a speed receiver. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So those are your those are your off season check

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Speaker 1: Mark's kids. But this is a spot where where one

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Speaker 1: of those boxes needs to be checked. Uh. Luckily we

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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about left guard. That's taken care

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Speaker 1: of and he will join us from Vegas. Coming up next,

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Speaker 1: the Great Joel Betonio. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 1: It was fourteen ish, between fourteen and nineteen degrees this morning. Year. Um,

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: what what are you looking at this morning? Mr? Bretonio?

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01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 1: What what's your temperature like out in the desert? Um,

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01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: it's actually caught chili. I think yesterday was like one

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,640
Speaker 1: of the colder days they've had out here in Vegas. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think we're in the fifties this morning, but I

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01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 1: think we're working our way up to the to the sixties. So, um,

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Speaker 1: you know it's not fifteen to nineteens, but it's it's

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: still a little bit desert chili desert. Put that on

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Speaker 1: a on a T shirt that yeah, yeah, SAMETI fifth

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01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: straight Pro Bowl for you? What's it like now? You've

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01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: you've seen kind of many iterations Orlando, Vegas. What's kind

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01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: of your take on the Pro Bowl and the fact

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01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: that now it's a completely different game or games than

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01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: it ever was before. What's what's this one like for you?

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Speaker 1: Somebody who's seen kind of this recent evolution of the

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01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl year after year after year after year. Yeah,

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: it's definitely different. Um, I think they're trying to make

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: the whole experience a little bit more family friendly for

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01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: the the guys that are they're coming out here and

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01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: making the trip of it. You know, they're trying to

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01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, have more events for the guys and stuff,

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01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 1: and um, you know, Vegas is not the most family

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01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: friendly place anyway, but they've done a good job of

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01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: putting together some events, you know and stuff. We're actually

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Speaker 1: we're on the strip this year. Last year we were

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: kind of off the strip, so guys were a little

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01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: frustrated with that. But they're listening, you know, they're listening

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Speaker 1: to the guys. You know, I'm not sure we haven't

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01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: done the skills challenges and the new it's the Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl games this year, so being a good feeling for that.

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01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: You know. I got told yesterday I'm in the Last

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01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: Man Standing, which is like a I think it starts

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01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: with a water balloon toss, so you know, like the

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01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: good old back backyard games. So me and a partner.

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01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't know my partner yet, but we're gonna be

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: do some waterloon toss and then I think Saturday, I'm

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01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: doing like the gauntlet, which I gotta push a sled

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Speaker 1: for that or something. So I'm preparing, you know, it's

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01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: not football, but I'm preparing to compete, try and get

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm undefeated, you know in Pro Bowl, so

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01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to keep that record going. So how how

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01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: do you how do you how can you be undefeated?

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01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: How how are we deciding a winner and all of

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Speaker 1: this stuff? You know, I don't there's some sort of

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01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: score this time. I'm just saying in the years I've

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Speaker 1: played in the past, it's only been three because of

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: COVID year, but we want on the scoreboard in those games. So, um, here,

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how it is. I know the

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01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: flag football is gonna matter on Sunday, but I think

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Speaker 1: all the they have, you know, some like golf event,

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01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: they have some other things like that. So there's there's

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01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 1: a lot going onto this. Yeah, so this is like

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01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: Battle of the Network Stars old school, Like it's going

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01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: to be an accumulation of points starting Thursday through Sunday. Okay,

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: And so they're exactly, do you sense a kinship with

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01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: your a f C mates to bring home whatever championship

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: is available here? You know, I was talking to um,

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Speaker 1: you know, justin Tucker yesterday and he's doing um, you know,

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: I think one of the golf challenges and like the

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01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,560
Speaker 1: tic tac toe thing where they kicked the ball. You know,

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01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: we were both talking. We're both on the same page

1344
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, we gotta get a win here. So

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: I think the guys are focused. You know. Um, we'll

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01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: see once we actually start competing in these events tomorrow.

1347
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 1: And you can answer this or not answer it. But

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Speaker 1: yesterday there's some news Tyler Huntley named in the Pro

1349
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,720
Speaker 1: Bowl after appearing in six games? Was that like was

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01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: that an he? Was there any discussion of this at

1351
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: the at the Pro Bowl out there of what's happened?

1352
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's going to playing golf and not playing in

1353
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, And this is where we're at. Yeah,

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,560
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit, you know, from my perspective,

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01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: a little bit disheartening, because you want the Pro Bowl

1356
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 1: to mean something, you know, like you want to look

1357
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: at me like I had a great season and I

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01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. And for alignment, you don't have

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: that many opportunities to get awards, you know, so you

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01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: have all Pro you have Pro Bowl. Pretty much what

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: you can get as a lineman, you know, and respect

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 1: your game. And so it's kind of tough seeing like

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Speaker 1: seven quarterbacks drop out in the a f C. You know,

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01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: and some of them are injured, so you get it.

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: Some of them are playing in the Super Bowl. Um,

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01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: you know, some of them are playing golf. So it's

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01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: it's a it's a different world. But you know, I

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01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: think it's definitely disheartening in the sense where we want to,

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01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: you know, we want to make the Pro Bowl account

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Speaker 1: for something, and when it kind of gets into that situation,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely I think everybody looks at it and it's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is a little bit off, like something's

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01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: going on here. We had to, you know, figure out

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 1: a way to at least get guys to come here

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01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, make that decision, Joel. In

1376
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: the old days with the Pro Bowl, it was Hawaii, right,

1377
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,720
Speaker 1: you go to Honolulu, you played Aloha Stadium, you get

1378
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: a week with the family at a rest art on

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01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: the Big Island. In a way you go, um, and

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: and they did away with that. It would would that

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01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 1: be appealing to you again, um, you know, kind of

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01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 1: taking it kicking it back old school to what it

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01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: what it once was. I think. So, you know, I again,

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Speaker 1: I've talked to some of the guys, you know, obviously

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01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas and Marshall Yonda and some of those guys

1386
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: that gott to play in those YI games, and they

1387
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: said the players enjoyed that trip um a lot more

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01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 1: uh then they've had in the past. It is, it

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: is a little bit farther for some guys. Um. I

1390
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: don't know if he ever gets back to like playing

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01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: a game like like full speed. Um, you still want

1392
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: to get injured. You don't want to get banged up.

1393
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 1: Like the season matters so much that like could you

1394
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: imagine going out there and be an O line that's

1395
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: practiced together for like two days and been like, all right,

1396
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: we gotta block Miles t j Um, Chris Jones, you know,

1397
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 1: like like these four like all pro guys and it's

1398
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: like full speed like good luck quarterbacks, Like you know,

1399
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: it's just not possible in the in the time frame

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: that you have. So I think, you know, changing up

1401
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: the style is important, but making event that the guys

1402
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 1: want to go to is also important. Is there. I'm

1403
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: always curious about this because you know, in your head

1404
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: you have you know, like the Pro Bowl as an ideal,

1405
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: and you think, oh, they were playing hard and there's

1406
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: that famous video like Sean Taylor just crushing a guy

1407
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: and you go like, well, you know, can you play

1408
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: football in an exhibition format? Like what is the percentage

1409
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: is where you feel like you're still playing football but

1410
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: also not going to get hurt? Like what is the

1411
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,839
Speaker 1: what is the how can you is there a governor

1412
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: on your effort? How do you do that? Right? It's

1413
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: really like a feel out, especially for oline do you

1414
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 1: line to fill out like kind of sets, like it's like,

1415
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: all right, how is this guy going? You know? And

1416
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 1: it's really the extra stuff. You're not like finishing guys

1417
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: over a pile, or you're not um, you know, taking

1418
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: the extra shot on a guy, or you know, the

1419
01:14:56,880 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: rush is over. You know it's it's it's lows down,

1420
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 1: but it's really guys are are trying to protect themselves,

1421
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: um and so. And you know it's funny because I

1422
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,600
Speaker 1: remember watching Joe Thomas when I was a rookie and

1423
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,759
Speaker 1: he was going and j J. Watt was like flying

1424
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: off the ball and I was like, man, that looks

1425
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: like intent, you know what I mean? Like that looks

1426
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: like a tough, tough game to to play in, but

1427
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: there's so many rules where you can't blitz, you can't

1428
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: do other things that if one guy's going hard, you

1429
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,680
Speaker 1: can kind of slide the line his way or make

1430
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 1: an adjustment in that sense. Just like that, it's just

1431
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: like a respect thing with with the guy you're going

1432
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 1: across from, like how hard are you gonna go? How

1433
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: hard am I gonna go? And you kind of just

1434
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: steal it out from there. I would imagine that's dictated

1435
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: by the defensive guy more than the offensive guy, right,

1436
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,880
Speaker 1: Like what it's always dictated by the always dictated by

1437
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: the defensive guy, but they always think for some reason

1438
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: it's the offensive guy's decision. But you know that's part

1439
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: of it alright. So five straight for you. You are

1440
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: joined now by Nick, Chob, Myles, Garrett, and Wyatt, all

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01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: four of you back to back years. Is that is

1442
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: that pretty cool to see that core of guys kind

1443
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: of repeat and you know the fact that two guys

1444
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: on the line, you're the guy you blocked for there

1445
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, it's awesome. Um, you know, we had

1446
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: some lean years in Cleveland where it was you know,

1447
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,560
Speaker 1: one guy making it or or no guys, and so

1448
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: to have you know, four guys and back to back

1449
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: years is just pretty impressive. And you know, I mean

1450
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: Miles is one of the best in the league at

1451
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: his position. Nick is one of the best. You know

1452
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: why it is one of the best his positions. To

1453
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 1: just have those guys respected and get the honor to

1454
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: to come, um to Vegas and represent the Browns is

1455
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And I think, you know, the more often

1456
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: you come, um, I think you get a respect from

1457
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 1: other teams and you see like, oh, the Brown's got

1458
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: four guys you know coming here and stuff. So it's

1459
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: it's definitely cool. And uh, I wouldn't want to, you know,

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: be here with any other guy. So it's it's it's

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: awesome to have those guys here. You've made a bunch

1462
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: of these now, But um, is there is there somebody

1463
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: from another team who you look forward to seeing and

1464
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: and having this uh and and catching up with you

1465
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: know what's always it's always uh the lineman, you know

1466
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: what I mean, because like because you always want to

1467
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 1: just like you you terrible war stories or and it

1468
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: seems like every old line in the league is the same,

1469
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: like personality wise and so you know, you come and

1470
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: you tell these stories or a coach they played with her,

1471
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 1: another guy they played with and he's got to interact

1472
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: with them. So it's been cool. And this year we

1473
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: have some new guys coming in on the line, which

1474
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: which helps. You know, I met Ben Jones this morning

1475
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: as a center for UM Tennessee and and just a

1476
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 1: good guy and and you get those relationships and then

1477
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: it's nice because when you play those teams, it's like, oh,

1478
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: you remember the Pro Bowl, Like how's it going here?

1479
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 1: And how's it going there? So it was cool. I

1480
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: think when I was early in my career, it was

1481
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: like like I remember getting on the elevator with Drew

1482
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: Brees at the Pro Bowl hotel the first time I

1483
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 1: went there and his kids were there, and I was like,

1484
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean, this is pretty surreal now, like you know

1485
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: what is going on in my life. So there's some

1486
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: moments like that too when I was younger that were

1487
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 1: that were pretty special. And now you're the you're the

1488
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 1: old head there. I mean, it's kind of unbelievable, isn't

1489
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: it like you to think of that that, you know,

1490
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: I was the guy who was like starstruck to being

1491
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: the elevator with Drew Brees and now you're there every

1492
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: single year. You're a staple. So I do have to

1493
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: ask because I thought that was a great question about

1494
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 1: you know, guys you look forward to see. Do you

1495
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 1: guys get to go like break bread and and have

1496
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 1: like big steak dinners on the on the strip at all? Yeah,

1497
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, they've made it now where they

1498
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: have events and they had like yesterday most guys were

1499
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: getting into town. So we haven't even had really like

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01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: a team meeting yet. You know, it's kind of been individual.

1501
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, um, you plan on going. Uh,

1502
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if fans want to see this,

1503
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: but you know, I'll be at dinner with Justin Tucker tonight.

1504
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,879
Speaker 1: You know Baltimore Ravens guy pat Ricardo is a fullback

1505
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: for their them. Um, we'll be there. We have a

1506
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: eight or ten guys coming out, you know, and so

1507
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: it's just you. You know, these guys, you compete against them,

1508
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: but you're all here for the you know, the same reason,

1509
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 1: and you enjoy some food and some time with the families.

1510
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: And I would say in the years past, when you

1511
01:18:58,479 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: actually played a game, you said your three and oh

1512
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: it when they actually played a game, there have to

1513
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: be practices and you'd have to basic plays and you'd

1514
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: have to there's no game like you gues don't need

1515
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: to practice. You're gonna practice balloon tossing. Yeah, what are

1516
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: you guys doing during the days? Are you meeting with

1517
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning to go through your Yeah, Like Joel, I

1518
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 1: really like you on the wheel barrel brother. Today I

1519
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: have a I have a little like walk through thing

1520
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: because you know, to show us what we're doing. Um,

1521
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,560
Speaker 1: So it's definitely not Yeah, we used to have like

1522
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: three practices before we do it, and and and go

1523
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: out to the field and go over the plays. They

1524
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: haven't install of the playbook, so there was a lot

1525
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: that kind of went on. And now it's it's really

1526
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: like your event that you're doing. You have to know

1527
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: and understand. I think I think it is Saturday. We

1528
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,400
Speaker 1: actually have a practice at the stadium, so we're gonna

1529
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: go through everything there. I think they're gonna practice the

1530
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 1: flag football portion of it. Um Sundays, the game Thursdays,

1531
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: the skills events tomorrow. So that's when I think the

1532
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: water balloon tosses. Uh, it's coming out for for me,

1533
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: we'll see if I have some soft hands or not. Um,

1534
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,719
Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting. But there No, there's a different

1535
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 1: events like we're gonna top golf tomorrow night. It's a

1536
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: it's a welcome party. Um. I think twenty one Savage

1537
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: is going to be there. I'm not huge on his music.

1538
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: I don't know his music. I will, but I think

1539
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: that's a pretty big game. So we'll see how it goes.

1540
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: I played that on the way home from third grade

1541
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 1: basketball practice upon request last night, Joel. Not for the kids,

1542
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: not for the not so like do you even have

1543
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: to have a helmet? There are there pro bowled jerseys

1544
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 1: or uniforms this year, Like you don't need your pads? Right,

1545
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 1: Like you don't need pads, do you know? I think Jimmy,

1546
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy and our equipment room said he's sending me two

1547
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: pairs of cleats, a turf pair and uh and UH

1548
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: grass pair, and you know, depending on which one I

1549
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: wanted to use. I did get a Pro Bowl jersey.

1550
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:43,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna wear these ones, but

1551
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: you know they give you, you know, a couple of

1552
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl jerseys to design give out. They did design

1553
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: one Um, but I think we're probably gonna be wearing

1554
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: like Jersey T shirts, you know, for like the Black

1555
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: Game and stuff. I'm wondering it's like they're gonna let

1556
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,639
Speaker 1: lineman like sneak into play some tight end or something

1557
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: like that. You know, during the game, you're gonna go

1558
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: to Peyton and say, hey, I got soft hands here,

1559
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: pal right, I mean his mom probably get like Tyry

1560
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: killed the ball as much as possible. I feel like

1561
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: he's tough to tackle in real life, so flags would

1562
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 1: probably making things even tougher. Shift hips I'd like to see,

1563
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: because Joel's a legendary hoopster, I'd like to see like

1564
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: some hoops element brought in either a three point kind

1565
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: as a dunk contest something like that. I was thinking

1566
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: like you could do like the whole yards day game

1567
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: of like you got ping pong, you got a cornhole,

1568
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: you can do like a horse, shuffleboard, like all these things.

1569
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: Shuffle board. Um, you things that like guys are gonna

1570
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,680
Speaker 1: get really competitive in, but you're not gonna have a

1571
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: chance to get hurt, you know, doing those rights. Right.

1572
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: Would you say shuffle board? Do you feel like your

1573
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: shuffle board would travel? Are you a Pro Bowl shuffle

1574
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 1: boarder as well as a Pro Bowl left guard. I

1575
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: think with the amount I played with j C, you

1576
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: know that like training camp, offseason, I think it has

1577
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: to travel, just that heel of a board, different different stuff,

1578
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: but just having that feel the puck in your hand,

1579
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: I think would give me advantage. I think your first

1580
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 1: ballot off on that. I think you need to. I

1581
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,560
Speaker 1: think you should pitch that. Well, you'll be back. We

1582
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: pitch that, it doesn't pay. Why don't we get that

1583
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: in the games next year? Advantage for the a f C.

1584
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: I like it, Joel, great stuff, Manica grats Yeah, man,

1585
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Uh, one of the best. We love you

1586
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: to death and and thank you so much for joining

1587
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 1: us out there. Pal. Yeah, and not a problem. I

1588
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: always enjoy coming on and discussing this stuff. So it's

1589
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: great and hopefully we can bring the a f C

1590
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: a win this week. Let's go one way or another.

1591
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 1: The great Joel p Tonio, thank you so much from

1592
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: Vegas joining us on the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought to

1593
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,640
Speaker 1: you by Twisted Tea Hard iceed T official sponsor for

1594
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Yeah, I was

1595
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: curious as he was going through all of that, Like

1596
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: I knew that it was a point accumulation, but I

1597
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,600
Speaker 1: didn't know if it was Thursday through Sunday. And is

1598
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 1: it waited? Fag football? Flag football is out the heaviest one.

1599
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: That was a good question, Like does it is flag

1600
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 1: football played with everybody? Like or Joe? Does Joel even

1601
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 1: play in that game? Is it seven on seven where

1602
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: you're just guys going out for passes? I think probably

1603
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 1: the ladder. You want the bigs out there too, Like,

1604
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: have the bigs go out for some passes, some big

1605
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: man touchdowns, it'd be awesome. I just think they don't

1606
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: even need to bring their helmets. That would to me

1607
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:25,679
Speaker 1: was always one of the coolest things about the Pro Bowls.

1608
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: Everybody was in the same uniform, but then the helmet

1609
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: told you that they're what team. And I always thought

1610
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 1: that visually was really cool. How did they do it

1611
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: in the in the in the bygone era where you

1612
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 1: had the actual game and they went to Honolulu and

1613
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: they had the uniforms in the helmet. How did they

1614
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 1: do it to where the guys who played in the

1615
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 1: Super Bowl were also in the Pro Bowl? Because if

1616
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: it was after It must have been like two weeks

1617
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: after the super Bowl or a week after the super Bowl,

1618
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 1: because I remember just from like the Pro Remember Pro

1619
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: set would do like All Pro or the Pro Bowl

1620
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: trading cards. You remember these as a kid, and they

1621
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: would have like the Pro Bowl cards and like the

1622
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 1: year that the Niners won it. Montana was from the

1623
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: game from Rice was in the game to two thousand

1624
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: and nine, the Pro Bowl was usually held the weekend

1625
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: or two weekends after the super Bowl. Yeah, there you go,

1626
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: always after the super Bowl. Always in Hawaii prior to

1627
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. The change was made two and

1628
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: I wonder what the reason for that was. What was

1629
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: the benefit of They probably felt like we had this

1630
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: dead weekend. Let's yeah, but then you don't get then

1631
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: you get what you get. You get nobody in the

1632
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Was there a dead weekend between the championship games?

1633
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 1: And there wasn't always I think it was next week. Yeah, yeah,

1634
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 1: it wasn't always a dead weekend in between. You used

1635
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 1: to be able to that would make sense. This was, yeah,

1636
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's always they're thinking that this is the

1637
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: way to make the most money, right. I think I

1638
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: think this will be fun if you remember it's on

1639
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. I think it'll be fun, Like I think

1640
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: my kids would like it was my guest. Uh Um,

1641
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: I'll check it out. I'm curious. I'll be curious to

1642
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: just see how they execute it because it'll really it's

1643
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 1: really like a rock and jock thing. Slash nice slash

1644
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 1: like Ninja Warrior. What's channel is it on tomorrow? I

1645
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: think it's ESPEN But but I do think that the

1646
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 1: ratings for it will be way down from a game

1647
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But they'll say if we add up our

1648
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: ratings from Thursday and Friday and Saturday, is there is

1649
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: there a multi platform probably and ESPN is probably immune

1650
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 1: to it anywhere, right, but there will Like last year

1651
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: it was six point nine million, So I think that

1652
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: that will take a pretty big hit with doing a

1653
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: flag football game like his appealing as the mannings are

1654
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: and appealing is some of this stuff is to all

1655
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: of us a traditional game, like You're still get you

1656
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: still could get pulled into a traditional game like rather

1657
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 1: than what exactly am I watching? Yeah, the hard part

1658
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: is that I think Joel kind of alluded to it

1659
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: is it would be difficult for an offensive line to

1660
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: deal with these guys without the cohesion that it takes

1661
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: to But how did they do it? For all those years?

1662
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: They did it? They did. You know what's interesting is

1663
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: in the NBA, like the first three quarters are playing

1664
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 1: I think ideally of like what you would like to

1665
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: see in the NBA. They don't play any defense, like

1666
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: they'll score two hundred apiece, like they just up and

1667
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: down but one and they play. I wonder if, like

1668
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: in did the last quarter, did the NFC go try

1669
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 1: and win? Did they go crazy? I have no recollection

1670
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: any other I just remember liking it and I don't remember.

1671
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 1: I remember the lays in there in Hawaiian uniforms. I

1672
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: like you said, like the helmets just bu or red

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Speaker 1: usually Yeah, AFC was red, NFC was blue and you

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Speaker 1: could help and then you had um. I was trying

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01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: to think, though I don't remember there ever being a

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Speaker 1: significant Pro Bowl injury. The only one I remember was

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01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 1: in was but that was flag beach football, beach football.

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01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 1: I was of all the things I remember watching live.

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01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 1: I remember watching that. I saw it too, and was like,

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01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 1: but never in the game. And I've always felt like

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01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: there was an agreement, like you know, tackle soft, and

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01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: Taylor said he was the one who said, forget it,

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it, but like, yeah, I don't know.

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01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: I they did it for years and now they're like

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01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: throwing a bunch of stuff at the wall seeing if

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01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: it sticks. My hunch is that if you actually watched

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Speaker 1: all of this, you'll probably think it's relatively entertaining. But

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01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: my hunch is that overall far fewer. We're gonna need

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Speaker 1: the guy's personalities to really shine through, which I think

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01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: people like because that's the tough thing with the NFL

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01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: that they play in helmets, that you don't really get

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01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: to know who these guys are and see them joking around,

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01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: the jocularity, all of that. You really need like a

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01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: TNT crew on it, Like you need to have people

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01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: selling it making like Kenny sells the dunk contest, Chuck

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01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: sells it like you do the game on Sunday. That'll help,

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01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: But I think you need more of that, and you

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01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: need the Mannings miked like you need, which I'm sure

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01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,560
Speaker 1: they will be new Mike, Yeah, you all of that.

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Speaker 1: Coach Dog, Mr Dog, well in this case coach coach Yeah. Alright,

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Speaker 1: hours in the league, Sean Payton, Tom Brady retired two coaches,

1706
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: only two openings remain. Quarterbacks dropping like flies in the NFC,

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01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: just populating the they really are. They're all popping in.

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01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 1: But Tonio seemed sick see six percent sure what he

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01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: was getting into in the Pro Bowl. An idea like

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Speaker 1: part of the thing that's sad though, is that Joe

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01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: would say one of his favorite things about being there

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Speaker 1: were the practices getting to know the guys and getting

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01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: just see like Peyton Manning throw a football, getting to

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01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 1: see like what that was, Like, Yeah that's all gone,

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Speaker 1: All that's gone, And we're going to the water balloons

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01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: and such. I have a great water balloon story too,

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01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 1: haven't run out of time. I use them to handle

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Speaker 1: wild turkey and geese that feels attack. Is a t

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Speaker 1: rex coming in. We have our plan. I know we'd

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Speaker 1: be okay. I can't speak for you, give he sure

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Speaker 1: would attract I mean I feel like that catches the red. Yeah,

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01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 1: it would seem like red and be infuriated if a

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01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: bull came in here right out. She's straight for give.

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