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Speaker 2: started by Verballers and for Verballers. Dan so on today's show,
Speaker 2: as you know, this is sort of in the wake
Speaker 2: of the college football playoffs. Both games were played yesterday,
Speaker 2: so we're going to go through those at the very
Speaker 2: top of the show. We're also going to recap a
Speaker 2: bunch of the other bowl action that has been going
Speaker 2: on since we last spoke.
Speaker 1: And I believe we have five other.
Speaker 2: Games on like a Bowl Mini Barge that we need
Speaker 2: to address before we part ways here.
Speaker 1: The Tug Bowl. Oh, that sounds weird. That sounds very weird.
Speaker 1: Not crazy about it, but I think we stick with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we start with the big stuff up front.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is college football. It's all big stuff.
Speaker 1: But let's start with the playoff. And I know you
Speaker 1: have a number of thoughts. Let's go through all of
Speaker 1: the action. I believe it's the Gasparilla Bowl was where
Speaker 1: we left off recapping. We have those few games that
Speaker 1: opening Saturday, but we have not recapped since because I've
Speaker 1: been on the road, You've been busy with the holidays,
Speaker 1: and we wanted some time to breathe. But we've got
Speaker 1: a lot to rifle through, a lot to rifle through.
Speaker 2: So let's start at the very top here with number
Speaker 2: one LSU and number four Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Dan.
Speaker 2: This was a game you might remember, point spread about
Speaker 2: fourteen points. I think when we previewed it it was
Speaker 2: a little bit less than that. We both said, Wow,
Speaker 2: that seems soon. That seems like a lot of points
Speaker 2: for a really good, really good Oklahoma team with a
Speaker 2: solid off. It's been of a questionable defense, but nonetheless
Speaker 2: they can they can put up points.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Final score here LSU sixty three, Oklahoma twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, like I generally like to avoid just reading
Speaker 2: off stats and calling that a game recap because our
Speaker 2: fans are smart enough that they can go out to
Speaker 2: a box score and read a game cap and figure
Speaker 2: it out on their own. But I just have to
Speaker 2: read some of these stats if you could let me.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow twenty nine of thirty nine for ninety three
Speaker 2: and seven touchdowns. Seven touchdowns, mind you, in the first
Speaker 2: fricking half. Yeah, yeah, that's passing touchdowns. By the way,
Speaker 2: he threw it in a one on the ground for
Speaker 2: good measure early in the second half. That's right, seven
Speaker 2: passing touchdowns he was responsible for eight because of the
Speaker 2: rushing touchdown. Four of his passing touchdowns went to Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 2: who also had a monster game with fourteen grabs for
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty seven yards. There were only two
Speaker 2: LSU drives that did not result in points. One was
Speaker 2: a punt on their second drive, the other was a
Speaker 2: missed field goal. Dan just an incredible offensive showing by LSU.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they made it to seven hundred yards.
Speaker 2: It felt like one hundred and seventeen million yards in
Speaker 2: this game. Yeah, but wow, what a showing. You've somehow
Speaker 2: sold LSU's performance. I know and that's the thing that's
Speaker 2: such go ahead, continue, But that is such a good point.
Speaker 1: It's it was in an credible watch, and it almost
Speaker 1: wasn't surprising. It was surprising that they won by so
Speaker 1: many in that Oklahoma was just unable to respond within
Speaker 1: any sort of consistency. They did get what it was
Speaker 1: seven all the long past to ceedee Lamb gets them
Speaker 1: down to the three. Kennedy Brooks punches it in after Lsu.
Speaker 1: I think it was a three play opening drive with
Speaker 1: a short field. Yep. What Lsu was able to do,
Speaker 1: it almost reminded me a little bit of and I
Speaker 1: don't know how much you watched, like when Steph Curry
Speaker 1: was at Davidson Sure playing like Georgetown Wisconsin. We're like,
Speaker 1: you knew what was about to happen, you knew that
Speaker 1: there was very little you could do. You just sort
Speaker 1: of had to hope to weather it and do your
Speaker 1: own thing at the same time. And even still even
Speaker 1: knowing what was you know, there's a storm common even still,
Speaker 1: what LSU was able to do was so unbelievable on
Speaker 1: a stage like this. Granted Oklahoma's defense with its own
Speaker 1: struggles and even with some improvement in the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: Obviously personnel wise, you know, they lose a corner to
Speaker 1: talk marketing, it's just the depth wasn't there, The talent
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Obviously the suspension's hurt as well up front.
Speaker 1: But what LSU was able to do, and granted they
Speaker 1: have a Blitnikoff Award winner who was largely held in check,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter because Thad Moss, Terris Marshall and
Speaker 1: obviously Justin Jefferson counting off the touchdowns in the end
Speaker 1: zone as he's scoring them is more than enough. And
Speaker 1: it also be relatively easy to overlook the fact that
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire makes no difference in this game because
Speaker 1: of hamstring injury. Chris Curry does a nice job, especially
Speaker 1: in the second half stepping in. It was Davis Price
Speaker 1: as well got some carries that didn't matter. That the
Speaker 1: depth of what LSU was able to do and what
Speaker 1: you can only do, I guess in terms of praying
Speaker 1: against Joe Burrow, like this is a conversation we'll have
Speaker 1: ahead of the National Championship game. But all you can
Speaker 1: do to defend Joe Burrow and this passing attack and
Speaker 1: these receives and these coordinators is hope for drops because
Speaker 1: if you're flushed, if you flesh him out of the pocket,
Speaker 1: he might even be better. If you try to confuse him,
Speaker 1: it probably won't work. If you give him time and
Speaker 1: can't generate a pass rush, that's it. That's it for
Speaker 1: LSU and your hopes against them. I just I came
Speaker 1: away so thoroughly impressed with the fact that they just
Speaker 1: continue to get better, the fact that the defense put
Speaker 1: constant pressure on Jalen Hurts in this Oklahoma offense, which
Speaker 1: when you have to keep up with LSU and your
Speaker 1: defense isn't able to do its job, Oklahoma's offense had
Speaker 1: to had to do something beyond perfection to hang with LSU,
Speaker 1: and they were underwhelming. That's nowhere near good enough. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up. So two things.
Speaker 2: First off, you're right the box score only tells part
Speaker 2: of the story. Yeah, it felt like an even bigger
Speaker 2: mismatch somehow watching the game live. And secondly, on the
Speaker 2: point of the defense, the LSU defense continued. I think
Speaker 2: it's upward trajectory. They've gotten better throughout the course of
Speaker 2: the year, and granted this was a runaway train. This
Speaker 2: game was a runaway train. But the defense I thought
Speaker 2: did a superb job here against one of the better
Speaker 2: offenses in the country. I sort of half expected a
Speaker 2: late surge from Oklahoma where they'd come back, maybe not
Speaker 2: to win the game, but to try and challenge the
Speaker 2: point spread, because that's what some of us, our friends
Speaker 2: in the desert might care about.
Speaker 1: Misrepresent the final score to.
Speaker 2: Be up forty nine to fourteen at half, as LSU was,
Speaker 2: and maintain that intensity, maintain just that composure. That's a
Speaker 2: hard thing to do. That speaks to character, that speaks
Speaker 2: to coaching, that speaks to whatever the hell magic potion
Speaker 2: edwar Zaran has found this year. Because they were really good,
Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be completely glossed over
Speaker 2: because of the offensive output, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: At one point, Jalen Hurts was four of fifteen, I
Speaker 1: think deep into the first half, as Joe Burrow had
Speaker 1: more touchdown passes than Jalen Hurts had completions. You had
Speaker 1: that weird segue, what was it, Sean McDonough And who's
Speaker 1: the analyst for this game? Blackledge? Yeah, it was Todd
Speaker 1: Blacklish talking about like, well, Jalen Hurts is a pretty
Speaker 1: good shot of succeeding the NFL thanks to what Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson has done in opening doors for dual threats and
Speaker 1: forming NFL. No, Jalen Hurts wasn't doing it against LSU.
Speaker 1: The NFL is harder. The NFL is harder than LSU.
Speaker 1: You had that weird sort of aside in the game,
Speaker 1: and obviously the incomprehensible, incomprehensibly tragic element with Carly McCord
Speaker 1: Steve Ensminger, the LSU offensive coordinators daughter in law in
Speaker 1: that plane crash. And you know this is not I'm
Speaker 1: not positioning this as like overcoming the adversity of what
Speaker 1: Steve Ensminger did. It's just I can't imagine the emotion
Speaker 1: going through him. The fact that he was even able
Speaker 1: to be in the stadium is brutal. I can't I
Speaker 1: can't even wrap my head around how awful everything you know,
Speaker 1: as a as a story happening on the same day.
Speaker 1: I just so so awful. So that was tough. That
Speaker 1: was an incredible story with LSU moving on to the
Speaker 1: National championship, putting a punctuation on just an incredible season.
Speaker 1: But man, the clouds over LSU's day were crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thoughts terrific thoughts out to the Enspinger family. That's
Speaker 2: a tough one to hear that news shortly before kickoff
Speaker 2: on our way to the gaming list, which is just brutal.
Speaker 2: But LSU does win in resounding fashion sixty three to
Speaker 2: twenty eight in your first playoff semi final. Obviously set
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of Peach Bowl records winning that football game.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, LSU punched its ticket. They
Speaker 2: are installed, I believe early as a five or five
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite over the Clempson Tigers. Wow,
Speaker 2: Clemson will be going back to the National Championship game
Speaker 2: to defend their title. They won semi final number two
Speaker 2: out at the Fiesta Bowl by twenty nine to twenty
Speaker 2: three margin. This is a fun game through and through.
Speaker 2: Ohio State jumps out to an early sixteen to nothing lead,
Speaker 2: and I thought looked really really good, felt like they
Speaker 2: had a good handle on this game. Yeah, But nonetheless,
Speaker 2: Clemson comes back. They make it sixteen to fourteen at half,
Speaker 2: goes to twenty one to sixteen I believe midway through
Speaker 2: the third quarter, back and forth the rest of the way,
Speaker 2: Clemson scores with about two minutes left to go up
Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty three, and Ohio State had a shot.
Speaker 2: Dan They really truly had a shot to win it.
Speaker 2: But Chris Olave breaks off his roote.
Speaker 1: I think o'lave came back to he thought Fields was scrambling,
Speaker 1: so he tried to peel back to help block.
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is looking for the post, Nolan Turner was
Speaker 2: looking for the interception and the end of the game. Effectively,
Speaker 2: he falls on the ball in the end zone and
Speaker 2: Clemson marches on Dan Out's standing game all around.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here? How do you feel?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: I have so many? First of all, let's start with
Speaker 1: you talk about Ohio State going up sixteen nothing with
Speaker 1: an asterisk in that it felt like it was thirty
Speaker 1: one nothing. It did it felt like you have incredible
Speaker 1: play from JK. Dobbins with was Dann here seventy yard
Speaker 1: It was on the first play of a drive, right,
Speaker 1: a seventy yard touchdown run, and it sort of underscored
Speaker 1: the element of JK. Dobbins where I was trying to
Speaker 1: think about what like a real life comparison would be
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out how to deal with JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins in the open field, and all I could come
Speaker 1: back with was like if there were a runaway jukebox
Speaker 1: coming down a hill at you and you somehow had
Speaker 1: to tackle it and stop it dead in its tracks.
Speaker 1: I just JK. Dobbins is that incredible of a player,
Speaker 1: and the explosive, the explosive plays in this game came
Speaker 1: to define the outcome, you know, along with some other things.
Speaker 1: So Ohio State, you know, he has the drop. JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins has the drop on a screen. He has the
Speaker 1: pass that ultimately hits the ground that looked like it
Speaker 1: was in the immediate aftermath of touchdown but ruled an
Speaker 1: incomplete pass. I'm sure Ohio State fans, with all of
Speaker 1: their emotions saw that and said, even with how good
Speaker 1: they've been, how great they've been, how good they've been
Speaker 1: in the second halves of games, you know, against Wisconsin
Speaker 1: both times really pouring it on, and Clemson's a different
Speaker 1: animal that you see those missed opportunities, and I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, having the same emotion with Oregon both against
Speaker 1: Ohio State and the National Championship game early on with
Speaker 1: missed opportunities, and even Auburn this season, we're like I
Speaker 1: understand that they have the lead, but they need every ounce,
Speaker 1: they need nose to tail success against a team like
Speaker 1: Clemson that you can't leave points like that on the field,
Speaker 1: And so I imagine the trepidation and fear in the
Speaker 1: hearts of Ohio State fans at that point, even still,
Speaker 1: even with the momentum if you believe in it, changing
Speaker 1: run from Trevor Lawrence before the half, another seventy yard
Speaker 1: run which is just incredible, incredible, even with that, even
Speaker 1: with it was Travis Cten. It was a long screen
Speaker 1: pass to take the third quarter. Yes, even with that,
Speaker 1: even with what's his name, Sean Wade getting ejected for
Speaker 1: and no Ohio State or Clemson fan will be happy,
Speaker 1: no matter how anybody discusses this targeting penalty and ejection.
Speaker 1: Even with that, which I felt was sort of a
Speaker 1: letter call but not a spirit call, if that makes
Speaker 1: any sense, says Trevor Lawrence was sort of ducking his head,
Speaker 1: and I didn't feel like Wade was launching himself maliciously
Speaker 1: in the way that like Oklahoma's corner was ejected for
Speaker 1: that for the hit he had on Clyde Edwards Hilaire.
Speaker 1: Even with that, even with the fumble return for a
Speaker 1: touchdown that's called back and god, it kind of looked
Speaker 1: like a cat. We're gonna have to talk about that one.
Speaker 1: We will got more detail. Even with that, even with
Speaker 1: with Clemson driving the field like they did for that,
Speaker 1: it was a go ahead touchdown with what a couple
Speaker 1: minutes left in the game. Even with all of that,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying going against Ohio State, but even having
Speaker 1: to overcome a number of things that set Ohio State
Speaker 1: back from where they thought they should be. Whio State
Speaker 1: was in this game, Ohio State had the opportunity, had
Speaker 1: the ball in their hands. You mentioned the play at
Speaker 1: the end of the game, the interception, but I thought
Speaker 1: it was just a remarkable comeback from Clemson going down
Speaker 1: like they did and coming out as listless. You know,
Speaker 1: just the passing game seemed off. They really didn't seem
Speaker 1: to be getting Travis etn involved t Higgins leaves for
Speaker 1: a wide stretch of this game. Even with all of that,
Speaker 1: For Clemson to come back like they did, for Ohio
Speaker 1: State to adjust like they did, even though the second
Speaker 1: half wasn't great offensively for the buck Eyes, I thought
Speaker 1: it was just an unbelievable watch it was a great
Speaker 1: TV show perspective.
Speaker 2: A great game, and especially given the fact that so
Speaker 2: many of these semi finals of not being competitive, this
Speaker 2: one did not all fit that mold. Two things, Yeah,
Speaker 2: two things that jump out at me. Ohio State with
Speaker 2: just nine points in four trips to the red zone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Okay, that's a. You
Speaker 1: can't do it against these excellents. No, just can. And B.
Speaker 1: I thought Ohio State's defense was really good. For the
Speaker 1: most part.
Speaker 2: It seemed like Clemson receivers were having difficulty for the
Speaker 2: majority of this game getting open, but there were a
Speaker 2: couple big plays that were killer. Credit to our friends
Speaker 2: over at eleven Warriors for these stats.
Speaker 1: Listen to them.
Speaker 2: Five passes of more than twenty yards, four runs of
Speaker 2: more than ten yards, and three touchdowns three touchdowns of
Speaker 2: thirty or more yards. You'll remember, going to the season
Speaker 2: when Ryan Day took over one of the things they
Speaker 2: were trying to fix on defense. They gave up way
Speaker 2: too many explosion plays a year ago, and that seemed
Speaker 2: to be fixed for the majority of the season until
Speaker 2: last night. Last night, Clempton was able to take advantage
Speaker 2: some of those big explosion plays, and I think that
Speaker 2: was ultimately what ended up making the difference here. Let's
Speaker 2: go back to that controversial call late in the third quarter.
Speaker 2: So if you didn't see it, I'm sure you can
Speaker 2: find it on YouTube or somewhere out there in the interwebs.
Speaker 2: But justin Ross for Clemson appears to catch a ball
Speaker 2: and fumble it. That's how it was ruled on the
Speaker 2: field led to a scoop and score for Ohio State.
Speaker 2: But then they took another look at it. They overturned it,
Speaker 2: saying that he did not complete the process of the catch.
Speaker 2: I I don't know, Like I was trying to listen
Speaker 2: to the explanation from the TV ref I forget his name, right,
Speaker 2: and he was basically saying that, look, a lot of
Speaker 2: these calls are banged, banged, They're going to look so
Speaker 2: much different in slow motion than in real time, and.
Speaker 1: Which is true, which is thank you, captain obvious. I
Speaker 1: get that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sort of the point, right, You can't really
Speaker 2: use that logic when every other review, literally every other
Speaker 2: review throughout the course of this game, in every game,
Speaker 2: relies heavily on slow motion, right, So I'm with John
Speaker 2: Legend and his angry tweets on this one, Dan oh.
Speaker 1: I didn't see this. What did he say?
Speaker 2: He said he took three steps with the ball. He
Speaker 2: took three steps he did. It would seem like that
Speaker 2: constitutes possession and it should have been ruled a scoop
Speaker 2: and score for Ohio State. Nonetheless, the drive ends with
Speaker 2: a Clemson punt. On the ensuing possession, Ohio State gets
Speaker 2: it back, they throw a pick, and just another one
Speaker 2: of those things that could have gone Ohio State's way didn't.
Speaker 2: Clemson was ultimately able to capitalize in all the important
Speaker 2: ways and they march on to the championship game.
Speaker 1: We probably need to have a sub when we did,
Speaker 1: like a breakoff show, maybe about Isaiah Simmons by the way,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everywhere he lined up for Clemson's defense. And granted,
Speaker 1: I just didn't watch a lot of Clemson this year.
Speaker 1: I watched Clemson while games were close, but I'm not
Speaker 1: watching you know, a full half of garbage time against
Speaker 1: you know, wake Er Austin College, so you know, he
Speaker 1: doesn't really get to display what he does against great
Speaker 1: teams when Clemson just plays in a conference without that
Speaker 1: many great teams. What he was able to do playing
Speaker 1: center field, playing against slot dudes, filling run fits whatever.
Speaker 1: He is an incredible, incredible player.
Speaker 2: And I was watching this game with my cousin and
Speaker 2: a close friend, both of whom were less familiar with
Speaker 2: Isaiah Simmons' body of work. Sure, and I was just
Speaker 2: pointing out that as the Giants fan in the room,
Speaker 2: or one of two Giants fans in the room, yeah,
Speaker 2: Isaiah Simmons would fit real nice. Where would he fit
Speaker 2: real nice?
Speaker 1: Said?
Speaker 2: Just about anywhere. You could play him pretty much anywhere
Speaker 2: you won at all three levels of the defense. And
Speaker 2: in this game he had the interception. You could see
Speaker 2: him out there as like a nickel corner. He was
Speaker 2: playing safety linebacker and saw his hand on the ground
Speaker 2: a couple times. So he's a versatile modern defender who's
Speaker 2: going to go very high in the draft and will
Speaker 2: no doubt be a terror for LSU trying to game
Speaker 2: play around him. I don't know how much it matters
Speaker 2: because the LSU offense is so good, but that is
Speaker 2: a topic for another day.
Speaker 1: Even on those long Ohio State runs, it was Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons passing the Clemson DBS, fast dudes passing them in
Speaker 1: the open field. Yeah, hopelessly trying to catch JK. Dobbins,
Speaker 1: who happens to be just another ten yards. He catches
Speaker 1: Dobbins of course. Yeah, Chad Smith has a monster game.
Speaker 1: The linebacking corp for Clemson in general was terrific. And
Speaker 1: you know, you hear coaches ahead of games like this,
Speaker 1: you know it's come down to you know, who wins
Speaker 1: the turnover battle. We got to generate takeaways, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: all true, all important. The chunk plays I feel like
Speaker 1: decided this game for better and war for better and
Speaker 1: for worse. Justin Field's downfield was fine. Uh, he didn't
Speaker 1: use his legs a lot, but when he did a
Speaker 1: couple of times it worked out really well. But it
Speaker 1: was Chris o'lave, it was Austin Mack, it was kJ
Speaker 1: Hill not really getting down down field to open up
Speaker 1: the offense that ultimately I think was a pretty huge
Speaker 1: fact or for Ohio State, not you know, pouring it
Speaker 1: on in the second half the end with just that
Speaker 1: that late touchdown in the fourth quarter, so a really
Speaker 1: incredible watch, and I just I came away needing to
Speaker 1: come down. It was that midnight Eastern when this game ended,
Speaker 1: and I just needed to take a few breaths. I
Speaker 1: just needed I needed a second, like, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, it's over. So now we get an all
Speaker 1: Tiger national championship. I like the Tigers here.
Speaker 2: So yeah, LSU minus five against Clemson. Yeah, that's how
Speaker 2: it looks right now in your college football playoff national
Speaker 2: championship game. Clemson takes advantage of big plays. Ohio State
Speaker 2: had it, they had it, they had opportunities, but they
Speaker 2: were not able to capitalize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they made themselves. By the way, I mentioned
Speaker 1: Clemson doing good job against Ohio State's receivers preventing downfield activity.
Speaker 1: Clemson's receivers terrific receivers. T Higgins goes out didn't open.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get open. They couldn't get going downfield either.
Speaker 1: They relied on those two basically huge, huge plays from
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and travistn Etn on his screen and Lawrence
Speaker 1: on the ground. And I thought Trevor Lawrence, by the way,
Speaker 1: and we see a lot of these offenses that are
Speaker 1: built around the threat of a quarterback run justin fields
Speaker 1: didn't keep it as much. I think he had what
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen carries ultimately, but that includes sacks. What
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was able to do on the ground, you know,
Speaker 1: getting eight yards on first and ten, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: it was a breath of fresh air sometimes when we
Speaker 1: see sometimes quarterbacks tighten up or told not to run
Speaker 1: it or choose not to keep it when they probably should.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence just giving everything for this game, along with
Speaker 1: justin fields. But to see what he was able to
Speaker 1: do to propel this team, not just with his arm
Speaker 1: but with his legs was damn wow. He's good. He's good.
Speaker 2: So he's going to get another crack at a national championship.
Speaker 2: That game will be played on what January BA BA.
Speaker 1: Thirteenth, something like that, a couple of weeks away.
Speaker 2: We will preview that game in the next couple shows elsewhere.
Speaker 2: If we could, Dan, could we travel back in time
Speaker 2: for a second. But b it a bunch of bowl
Speaker 2: games here that we want to leaf through give you
Speaker 2: results and any instant feedback. We won't go into it
Speaker 2: with the same level of depth, obviously, but let's start
Speaker 2: with the bad boy Mowers Gaspa Ria Bowl, Dan Gasparella, Yeah,
Speaker 2: UCF forty eight, Marshall twenty five, I don't have thoughts.
Speaker 1: We said it looked like a mismatch. It turned out
Speaker 1: it was a mismatch. Yeah, it was a really nice
Speaker 1: performance from from Dylan Gabriel, something we've come to expect.
Speaker 1: That were good on the ground. It was a complete
Speaker 1: offensive performance. Marlon Williams was really nice through the air.
Speaker 1: I rifled through this game very quickly, but I had
Speaker 1: I think this was a forty one er. This was
Speaker 1: my most confident outcome and it came true. So nice.
Speaker 1: Nice double digit cap including the postseason to a somewhat
Speaker 1: impressive season, especially given the promise of Dylan Gabriel moving forward.
Speaker 2: In the SOFI Hawaii Bowl Hawaii thirty eight BYU thirty four,
Speaker 2: Cole MacDonald four touchdowns, nice showing on Christmas Eve had
Speaker 2: one of those touchdown passes with about a minute left
Speaker 2: to grab the win. So nice hometown triumph for the
Speaker 2: Hawaii squad.
Speaker 1: In Hawaii's fifteenth game of the season. Correct. Yeah, Nick
Speaker 1: Rolovich has done a wonderful job in Honolulu with Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Cole MacDonald continues to impress. A fun game, a fun
Speaker 1: back and forth. Loved watching what I saw quickly.
Speaker 2: All right, get ready for it. The Walkuns Independence Bowl.
Speaker 2: Your final here was Louisiana Tech fourteen, Miami zero, Goosegg
Speaker 2: neil Nada. Casey needed any confirmation that Miami just wanted
Speaker 2: to get this whole thing over with. Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the drive charts, so well, before I
Speaker 1: go into the drive chart, just one, Danny nos was
Speaker 1: summarily said, yeah, we're good, We're good, after your The
Speaker 1: phrasing that has been used in a couple of different
Speaker 1: places of it's sometimes mutually agreed to part ways, sometimes
Speaker 1: will not be retained. But there was something like very
Speaker 1: funny if I can use that word about being relieved
Speaker 1: of his duties as if he's being asked to give
Speaker 1: his badge in Detective Nos right right, please give us.
Speaker 1: It was a nightmare, a nightmare and offense for Miami,
Speaker 1: which is nothing really new, given how the Canes finished
Speaker 1: out the year. And I guess a nice enough performance
Speaker 1: on defense from Miami. Shaq Quorterman I think started his
Speaker 1: like fifty second game for Miami. See a number of
Speaker 1: the guys Greg Russeau had been very good for Miami
Speaker 1: this year. You know, to give that sort of effort
Speaker 1: in this game and to come away with nothing. So
Speaker 1: I guess, good for Louisiana Tech. Good good for law Tech.
Speaker 1: But back to the Enos thing. You'll remember that was
Speaker 1: a big deal when you hired him. That was like, wow,
Speaker 1: they got dan ENO's nice hire has not worked out,
Speaker 1: to say, turns out Miami doesn't have Tua. No turns out.
Speaker 1: So this is And I was watching the pregame stuff
Speaker 1: going into this game because I'm not far from Miami.
Speaker 1: This was what Miami was able to do on national
Speaker 1: TV with I don't think any other games going against it.
Speaker 1: You ready to tie? I'm ready? Please punt punt, punt, fumble,
Speaker 1: punt punt, really fumble fumble, punt interception, punt interception and
Speaker 1: mercifully and of season. Yeah, hey, law Tech got to
Speaker 1: ten wins.
Speaker 2: Good for them, law Tech got to ten wins, all right,
Speaker 2: Quick Lane Bowl pit thirty four Eastern Michigan thirty.
Speaker 1: Nobody puts Kenny Pickett in the corner? Did I mean
Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan in the corner? For most of this game
Speaker 1: they sort of did.
Speaker 2: Pitt needed a twenty five yard touchdown pass with just
Speaker 2: forty seven second left to grab the lead in that
Speaker 2: sweet sweet Quick Lane Bowl Trophy, Dan But this was.
Speaker 1: A little bit closer than I expected. Same. This was
Speaker 1: such a strange season for Pitt by the way, yeah
Speaker 1: they have. It's what Mauric's French is probably one of
Speaker 1: the great underrated receivers in the country, and that's because
Speaker 1: the pit offense wasn't that good this year. He was
Speaker 1: the bright spot. As much as you think Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: is plucky because of what he did a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, Mauric's French is the story. And that's French
Speaker 1: with two s. By the way, that is French with
Speaker 1: two f's elsewhere in the Holiday Bowl. I didn't watch
Speaker 1: any of this game. Oh I did.
Speaker 2: IOWA forty nine USC twenty four, so I need I
Speaker 2: need sort of your breakdown here, But it looks like
Speaker 2: it was close for three quarters and then suddenly I
Speaker 2: refreshed my app and I was like, wait what they
Speaker 2: scored forty nine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so iowa drop basically fifty two of those touchdowns.
Speaker 1: One was on a long kick return from ism Amir
Speaker 1: Smith Marsette. Another was on a pick six late in
Speaker 1: this game, So Iowa I was offense only he scored
Speaker 1: thirty five, which if you do, if you do some
Speaker 1: sort of translation that's fifty points for Iowa. Thirty five
Speaker 1: is the equivalent of fifty for the twenty nineteen Iowa offense.
Speaker 1: They couldn't run the ball that well, and it didn't
Speaker 1: matter as much as USC had struggled this year stopping
Speaker 1: the run. The fact that you get out gunned by
Speaker 1: Iowa when you have Michael Pittman, Tyler Vaughan's Aman, Ross
Speaker 1: Saint Brown, Drake London, all of these guys in an
Speaker 1: air raid with retaining Graham Harrell is Wild is wild
Speaker 1: and USC relieved Clancy Pendergast and John Baxter, the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and special teams coordinator, of their of their duties
Speaker 1: shortly after this game. But Keton Slovas goes down in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, which certainly affected things. Matt Fink was
Speaker 1: largely ineffective. Luckily, the injury to Slovas, I think is
Speaker 1: pretty minor. It's just a sprain. They were worried it
Speaker 1: could have been something a lot worse. But the story
Speaker 1: here was really im for for Iowa. Just with the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, he made plays, he gets he
Speaker 1: scores a touchdown through the air and in the return
Speaker 1: game and was the offensive force in this game. And
Speaker 1: Nate Stanley. Pretty good game, but yeah, Iowa scoring thirty
Speaker 1: five is against a ranked team, no less, is an accomplishment.
Speaker 1: Great way to finish out the season for Iowa as
Speaker 1: they get to their tenth it's a nine to three season.
Speaker 1: I'm really big on your record is what you do
Speaker 1: in twelve games, but really really strong finish to the
Speaker 1: season for Iowa. Who they beat They be Minnesota near
Speaker 1: the end of the year, yep, yep, they beat are
Speaker 1: fighting a lion i near the end of the year.
Speaker 1: And to finish out beating USC on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: nice feather in their cap.
Speaker 2: In the Texas Bowl, the best eight and five team
Speaker 2: in the country went down fourteen to nil early. I
Speaker 2: had some an and M folks tweeting at me in despair.
Speaker 2: But fear not, fear not the best eight and five
Speaker 2: team in the country. They stayed the course, kept their composure,
Speaker 2: kept Chewba Hubbard from killing them, which is essential in
Speaker 2: a game like accomplishment, and they scored twenty four consecutive points.
Speaker 2: He ended up winning, thank he Ford to twenty one.
Speaker 2: That's Texas a and m over Oklahoma State in the
Speaker 2: Texas Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was all it was good bad. Kellen Moond
Speaker 1: in this game struggled to throw the ball consistently against
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, but ran the ball really well. Had that
Speaker 1: it was almost a seventy yard touchdown run. I believe
Speaker 1: on a keeper and the defense for A and M
Speaker 1: really stepped up after going down fourteen to nothing, really
Speaker 1: tightened up against Oklahoma State, who starts Drew Brown. In
Speaker 1: this game. Backup quarterback Spencer Sanders, I think saw some
Speaker 1: time and think he had a couple carries, but really
Speaker 1: didn't affect the passing game at all. And you know,
Speaker 1: the youth of Texas A and m's defense impressive. I
Speaker 1: just saw what jay Sean Corbin is transferring to Florida
Speaker 1: State after having to sit out most of the year
Speaker 1: with an injury. But yeah, A and M next year,
Speaker 1: I don't know what their schedule looks like. I don't
Speaker 1: know who they have consecutively to end the season, but
Speaker 1: Kellen Mond should be starting once again. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I think. I don't know what their ceiling is
Speaker 1: in the SEC with Kellen Mond being counted on to
Speaker 1: throw passes for four quarters. But a gutty effort from
Speaker 1: Mond in A and M, as you know they beat
Speaker 1: an old big twelve fo.
Speaker 2: In the Military Bowl. UNC fifty five Temple thirteen Man
Speaker 2: Carolina Carrie, Carolina just drilled him. Yeah, Rod Carry keeps
Speaker 2: on carry and yeah Carolina was up twenty to six
Speaker 2: at half, and somehow it only got worse from there.
Speaker 2: A really nice game from Sam Howe, who we've loved
Speaker 2: all year. Also two ridiculous touchdown catches for Daz Newsome.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw those.
Speaker 2: I did, indeed, one that he bobbled and somehow got
Speaker 2: a foot down in the back corner of the end zone.
Speaker 2: Another he caught in the back corner of the other
Speaker 2: end zone with two guys draped all over him. Beautiful
Speaker 2: throw from Sam Howe again, your final here, fifty five
Speaker 2: to thirteen, A really nice capper to a surprise season
Speaker 2: for UNC.
Speaker 1: Didn't things get out of hand against Duke last year
Speaker 1: for Temple in their bowl game as well, and that
Speaker 1: kind of led to Daniel Jones getting drafted in the
Speaker 1: top ten, among other things that may have helped. Yes.
Speaker 1: Sure so, yes, things got out of hand pretty quickly
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, and it was a complete effort.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just North Carolina and Sam Howll on offense,
Speaker 1: the defense had a really nice job stepping up. Granted
Speaker 1: against a Temple offense. It's been pretty awful all season long,
Speaker 1: but nice momentum for the Tar Hills going into the offseason.
Speaker 2: Pinstripe Bowl we had Michigan State twenty seven, Wake Forest
Speaker 2: twenty one. Nice game here for Brian Lawerkie and a
Speaker 2: Watch Collins.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need it. I mean it's one of those like,
Speaker 1: if Michigan State can get to twenty points, twenty five points,
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good shot that they'll win the game.
Speaker 1: But that's that enormous, enormous say if Wake Forest offense
Speaker 1: just not the same without stage thurrat So. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch much of this game. I scrubbed through it pretty quickly,
Speaker 1: but nice to see Michigan State come back. They were
Speaker 1: down at the half, I think twenty one to twenty
Speaker 1: and hold on in the fourth quarter. I can't say
Speaker 1: it's a great way to go into the off season,
Speaker 1: but at least they didn't lose to Wake in New York.
Speaker 1: I guess they did not lose to Wake. Okay.
Speaker 2: We had in the Cheese It Bowl Air Force thirty one,
Speaker 2: Wazoo twenty one, air Force threw for thirty yards and
Speaker 2: a pick. They also rushed for three hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: one yards and four touchdowns. Dan they had twenty seven
Speaker 2: more minutes of possession in this one.
Speaker 1: I think we both picked air Force, didn't we I
Speaker 1: definitely did.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: They finished ten and two on the regular season, get
Speaker 1: their eleventh against Wazoo. This was a rough watch, just
Speaker 1: if you wanted entertainment, because Washington Washington State would throw
Speaker 1: the ball pretty well and then get inside, you know,
Speaker 1: the five yard line and just struggle, struggle on short yardage.
Speaker 1: You know, turnovers were an issue. I got and all
Speaker 1: that aside. Washington State, with what three weeks to prepare
Speaker 1: for air Force's option, what they put on the field
Speaker 1: was nowhere near acceptable. What they what they they just
Speaker 1: they looked like they were lining up wrong. They couldn't tackle,
Speaker 1: they couldn't figure out how to get guys in the
Speaker 1: area of the option. They just air Force ran all
Speaker 1: over them. It seemly it was what Remsburg. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: watched this after the fact that I just every time
Speaker 1: I would look up, it was like Remsburg for eight,
Speaker 1: Remsburg for six, Ramsburg for twelve. I just I don't
Speaker 1: know how you finished. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Washington State was doing these past few weeks. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess yeah, well, Anthony Gordon, another good
Speaker 1: game in a losing effort. Yeah, other than that, Other
Speaker 1: than that fumble, I would say in the red zone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's move to the Cotton Bowl if we could. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Penn State fifty three, Memphis thirty nine. So Penn State
Speaker 2: hired Kirk Shiraka to be their new offensive coordinator. They
Speaker 2: hired him away from Minnesota. I think in light of
Speaker 2: this game, job number one is going to be Sean Clifford.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's good or not. I felt
Speaker 2: better about him at the start of the year than
Speaker 2: I think I did at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's somebody behind him that'll push him
Speaker 1: in the fall. Maybe Will Levis. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know either. I don't know how
Speaker 2: I feel about that. Clifford did not look very good
Speaker 2: in this game at all. No, in the end, it
Speaker 2: didn't matter because they rushed for almost four hundred yards,
Speaker 2: pretty much ran it at will. They should have run
Speaker 2: it more than they did. Journey Brown goes over two hundred,
Speaker 2: Noah Kane, Ricky Slade, they all look pretty good, and
Speaker 2: Brady White had a fantastic four hundred and fifty yard
Speaker 2: game in his own was an effort. So I thought
Speaker 2: a lot to be excited about regarding Penn State moving forward.
Speaker 2: And this was a good Memphis team that I've been
Speaker 2: all about all year. I think you picked Memphis to
Speaker 2: win this game, didn't you.
Speaker 1: I did pick Memphis to win this game. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I obviously regret it, but I figured that
Speaker 1: with the momentum that they had, or with the confidence
Speaker 1: they had even losing Mike Norval, with how they finished
Speaker 1: out the year, and Penn State, you know, being the
Speaker 1: team that has to face the G five school on
Speaker 1: New Year's six game, it's not always a motivational moment
Speaker 1: for teams. But look, I want to you sort of
Speaker 1: mention you started off with some not so positive evaluations
Speaker 1: of Sean Clifford, and you know Penn State's defense. I
Speaker 1: suppose you know, via the Memphis offense and success that
Speaker 1: they had through the air, Penn State did a good
Speaker 1: job bending but not breaking. Whoever the hell Memphis kicker is?
Speaker 1: Holy hell? How does Memphis have an amazing kicker? Good
Speaker 1: for them. He's incredible. He hits what a couple of
Speaker 1: forty to fifty yarders. I think he had what six
Speaker 1: field goals? Yeah, no big deals, no big deal, no
Speaker 1: big deal because Memphis only got in the end zone
Speaker 1: three times, so that was ridiculous. I don't know if
Speaker 1: the city of Memphis did something to Micah Parsons, but
Speaker 1: he took it out on this team. Michael Parsons finishes
Speaker 1: with fourteen tackles and I know you saw the moment
Speaker 1: where Memphis tried and end around and he was just there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he just ended the life of that play like
Speaker 1: a very angry spurned assassin. Michael Parsons is an All
Speaker 1: American linebacker. Michael Parsons is the best player on this
Speaker 1: team right Yeah, and I can't I mean good asked
Speaker 1: to play next year. I hope the defense is better
Speaker 1: built next year in terms of the secondary. And they
Speaker 1: had some definite lapses this season, and we saw it
Speaker 1: against Minnesota, Indiana, Memphis, and the Penn State pass rush
Speaker 1: seemed to come and go throughout the season. But whatever
Speaker 1: the hell the city of Memphis did to Micah Parsons
Speaker 1: please apologize because he just wreaked complete havoc and is
Speaker 1: a total joy to watch. And yes, Penn State on
Speaker 1: the ground, it was weird and we were texting about
Speaker 1: this that Penn State could do whatever they wanted against
Speaker 1: what seemed like a pretty undersized Memphis front who gave
Speaker 1: the Penn State offensive line some fits in pass protection.
Speaker 1: But my god, did Penn State push around Memphis up
Speaker 1: front and Journey Brown Noah Kane, you were saying like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're getting twenty yards a rush, but they're not always running.
Speaker 1: It doesn't fully make sense. So hopefully the new offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator puts his own stamp on things and helps develop
Speaker 1: Sean Clifford as well. Nice performance from Penn State going
Speaker 1: into the off season.
Speaker 2: And finally, let's go to the Camping World Bowl. Notre
Speaker 2: Dame thirty three, Iowa State nine. It will be very
Speaker 2: interesting to see what Notre Dame does at offensive coordinator now,
Speaker 2: because Tommy Reese called a nice game here and defensively,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame's defense pretty much shut down. Iowa State is
Speaker 2: a good Iowa State team. I was at the beer
Speaker 2: distributor grabbing a few adult libations.
Speaker 1: Where's that right up the road here.
Speaker 2: I was at the beer distributor grabbing a couple six
Speaker 2: packs before the playoff games, and I was listening to
Speaker 2: hooligans talk about Notre Dame and Iowa State.
Speaker 1: Who's Iowa State?
Speaker 2: And it's always at that moment, and I'm sure you've
Speaker 2: experienced it where it's like I know more about Iowa
Speaker 2: State than pretty much anyone on Earth right now, and
Speaker 2: I could flex those muscles and make a total of
Speaker 2: myself pretty legit. I could make a fool of myself
Speaker 2: talking about Brock Party and of course Broctoberfest.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I just bought my beer, went to my car,
Speaker 1: and whatever, dude, whatever turns out they were right. It
Speaker 1: turns out they were right. Nice twenty four point win
Speaker 1: here for Notre Dame. Yes, I came away more than anything,
Speaker 1: as well as what Tony Jones played, as well as
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool just was unguardable in this game. And it
Speaker 1: was nice to Ian Book go downfield the Notre Dame defense.
Speaker 1: This is not a bad Iowa State offense. No, it's
Speaker 1: not a bad team. No, I would say, move the
Speaker 1: ball against pretty much everybody. The Baylor game was pretty
Speaker 1: awful for the Clones, but this was a it's a
Speaker 1: legitimate offense Brock party and experienced quarterback, a playmaker. Breist
Speaker 1: Hall came on midway through the season. I thought Deshantae
Speaker 1: Jones was pretty impressive at times this year, and for
Speaker 1: what Notre Dame was doing up front, forcing turnovers? What
Speaker 1: it was Jeremiah owusu cora moa, how he pronounced it?
Speaker 1: Got it? You got joker j Okay, just in the
Speaker 1: face of Iowa State all day long, the forced fumbles,
Speaker 1: it was just he was mister Havoc for Notre Dame.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what the future of Clark Lee holds,
Speaker 1: but a great promotion that Brian Kelly made now a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. And I know it's Iowa State.
Speaker 1: I know it's what the Camping World Bowl, but really
Speaker 1: impressive way to finish out the year to maintain focus
Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. I don't know what they host Clemson
Speaker 1: next season. I believe yeah, they gonna go to that game. No, okay,
Speaker 1: you got a podcast to do on staying here. This
Speaker 1: was wall to wall irish, So nice way to finish
Speaker 1: things out in front of a national TV audience. For sure.
Speaker 1: So I think that's it. I think that covers pretty
Speaker 1: much all the Bowl games that were can I also mention,
Speaker 1: by the way, I tweeted this out, what Memphis was
Speaker 1: wearing the all grays on a green field. Don't even
Speaker 1: talk to me about those uniforms in my color blindness.
Speaker 1: I don't have that color blindness my eyes. I wear
Speaker 1: glasses a lot of the times, but I don't have
Speaker 1: that specific color issue. Whoever said, yeah, you can wear
Speaker 1: a darkish gray against in State's darkish blue on a
Speaker 1: green field should be relieved of their duties those because
Speaker 1: those unwatchable game. Those Memphis uniforms, to me.
Speaker 2: Were virtually invisible set against the backdrop of that green field.
Speaker 1: Same it was. It was. It was a tough watch,
Speaker 1: just visually. And Memphis does not wear those a lot.
Speaker 1: They have you know, whites and blues, whatever one. They're
Speaker 1: just heinous uniforms. I compared them to just awful gym class.
Speaker 1: You know that heathered gray look awful awful uniform. No contrast.
Speaker 1: There needs to be something like listen, I know people
Speaker 1: have a lot leaders have a lot of strong opinions
Speaker 1: about the Oregon uniforms. You can always see them. You
Speaker 1: can always differentiate the Oregon players from the other teams players.
Speaker 1: This was a visual travesty of a game to have
Speaker 1: sometimes green. Though they do wear greens on a green field,
Speaker 1: they don't do a lot green on green on the
Speaker 1: green field. And I know it's happened, but they're bright enough,
Speaker 1: they're like an apple green that it's contrasting enough, the
Speaker 1: muted grays against the muted green of the field, and
Speaker 1: just contrasts. I'm saying, players contrasting with each other, like
Speaker 1: if Oregan's wearing green on green on a green field,
Speaker 1: they're playing its team wearing white jerseys. I'm far from
Speaker 1: a uniform traditionalist, but this can't happen anymore. Sorry, that
Speaker 1: was my old man rant, and you felt the same.
Speaker 1: You agreed. Oh, I couldn't see him. No, I couldn't
Speaker 1: see anything. It was ridiculous. All right.
Speaker 2: Well, we've got five other games here that we have
Speaker 2: not previewed yet. We thought maybe we would rifle through
Speaker 2: those very quickly. We don't have a bull barge sound
Speaker 2: because it's more of a mini barge, he said, the
Speaker 2: tug Bowl.
Speaker 1: We comfortable with that. I am. Yeah, the sponsors won't
Speaker 1: drop us for Tug Bowl. Okay, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Tickets smarter Birmingham Bowl. This one is on January second
Speaker 2: on ESPN. It is ten and three Cincinnati. It is
Speaker 2: six and six. Boston College Bearcats are a seven point favorite.
Speaker 1: I am gonna go Sincy.
Speaker 2: I'm twenty eight confidence points because BC's been a mess
Speaker 2: all season. Then they fired their coach and they're also
Speaker 2: going to be without their best player, AJ Dillon.
Speaker 1: Yeah. First of all, let's talk about very briefly Boston College,
Speaker 1: who finishes the season losing two of three. What if
Speaker 1: you had told me before the season, Yeah, Boston College
Speaker 1: is going to beat Virginia Tech, Pitt, Syracuse and NC
Speaker 1: State and fire Steve Dazio because the season was unacceptable.
Speaker 1: That would be very confusing to me. Yeah, and probably
Speaker 1: Boston College fans. But they finished the season losing two
Speaker 1: of three. But did Pete beat Pitt at Pitt. The
Speaker 1: offense was largely fine. You know, they lose a quarterback
Speaker 1: halfway through the season in Anthony Brown, who was pretty good.
Speaker 1: AJ Dillon was typical, really strong AJ Dillon defense turned woeful.
Speaker 1: Max Richardson is a stud at linebacker. Some good linebacking
Speaker 1: play but yeah, it was. It was a rough year
Speaker 1: for Boston College overall. In Cincinnati, I think is a
Speaker 1: good pick. They lose their last two, both to Memphis
Speaker 1: after a repeating in the American Championship Game. They rip
Speaker 1: off nine straight after that. Ohio State just abuse through
Speaker 1: it out oh Man. But they finished the season defending
Speaker 1: the run really well, a nice linebacking corp themselves. It's
Speaker 1: just the offense was pretty lackluster. I still have Cincinnati
Speaker 1: by about ten. Here the gift suite tie. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: getting a coin, you're getting that History of the Bulls book,
Speaker 1: you're getting a bucket hat. But if you're heading to
Speaker 1: this game from Boston or Cincinnati and you're not used
Speaker 1: to really strong food, which both those cities have good food.
Speaker 1: The Highlands Bar and Grill is the James Beard Award
Speaker 1: winning best restaurant in America. Okay, that's pretty good. Saws Barbecue,
Speaker 1: I think they have white sauce, which is an Alabama thing.
Speaker 1: Carrigan's Hattie Bees I think has a location if you
Speaker 1: want some hot chicken in Birmingham. I've heard good things
Speaker 1: about Jack Brown's for burgers, and of course our friends
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Speaker 1: but I think you can find Druid City check their
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Speaker 1: I want to make the move to their brewery in
Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa not far away. Find where you can get some
Speaker 1: Druid City on tap.
Speaker 2: Shout out to our boys Dad at Druid City. Yeah,
Speaker 2: huge for ballers. I chalk murals really a bucket hat though.
Speaker 2: That's like the best we're doing with this.
Speaker 1: That's what we're seeing here. Okay, see I don't maybe
Speaker 1: at the gift sweet Rules and there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: cool stuff in there. Tax Slayer Gator Bowl.
Speaker 2: Also on the second, also on ESPN, it is Tennessee
Speaker 2: at seven and five. It is Indiana at eight and four.
Speaker 2: Tennessee is a two point favorite here. So I sort
Speaker 2: of boxed myself in and I'm stuck putting twenty five
Speaker 2: confidence points on this game, which.
Speaker 1: Was like entirely not by choice.
Speaker 2: I'm not very confident, but twenty five is what it's
Speaker 2: going to be, you know, Like both these teams are
Speaker 2: good stories for different reasons. Indiana's I think been pretty
Speaker 2: decent all year. There are four losses were to Ohio State,
Speaker 2: Michigan State, Penn State, and Michigan. The problem I have
Speaker 2: with them is teams they beat, and it's really tough
Speaker 2: to figure out how they compare it to Tennessee, because sure,
Speaker 2: the best team they be. Honestly, it's either Nebraska or Purdue.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, Tennessee beating the heavyweights that they beat makes
Speaker 1: this an easy choice then right oh wait, now now
Speaker 1: I'm seeing here they did not They beat Kentucky. Yeah, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have a soft spot for Lin Boden
Speaker 1: in Kentucky. But yeah, so it's not terribly different.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to switch my pick to Tennessee. I've
Speaker 2: gone back and forth thousand times. Here I'm gonna go Tennessee.
Speaker 2: I'm jumping aboard your tennis sance winners of five straight
Speaker 2: to end the year, definitely some good momentum down the stretch.
Speaker 2: I think a good job in the coaching department down
Speaker 2: the stretch as well, So I'll go Tennessee. I think
Speaker 2: close game may be a fun one to watch, but
Speaker 2: twenty five on Tennessee, I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: More specifically, a nice improvement job from Jarrett Garantano. The
Speaker 1: back half of the season, the defense for Tennessee did
Speaker 1: show some fight, especially in preventing bigger plays. Darryl Taylor
Speaker 1: definitely worth watching for Tennessee as the Balls win their
Speaker 1: final five. It should be noted that Juwan Jennings, who
Speaker 1: is a stud at receiver, is suspended for the first
Speaker 1: half of this game for stomping a Vanderbilt player's face
Speaker 1: on return. Which, if you're gonna be associated with Tennessee
Speaker 1: and you're gonna do something horrible, just after Albert Haynsworth,
Speaker 1: do not stop somebody's face. Aside from just you shouldn't
Speaker 1: do that in the first place. Indiana, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, they lose their final two of three, but
Speaker 1: they did throw the ball. Well, I think I'm actually
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Hoosiers here by five it out
Speaker 1: with your Hoosiers. Not super high confidence, but in the teens.
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Speaker 1: I like that Maui Jim sunglass is with fitting you get,
Speaker 1: I guess custom fitted sunglasses. I'm on board with that
Speaker 1: fossil watch backpack and that bowl book. And if you
Speaker 1: are heading to Schames of Jacksonville for good things about
Speaker 1: Maple Street, for biscuits, there's a new Cuban place called
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty eight which piqued my interest. And V pizza
Speaker 1: the letter V Pizza so and just don't get yourself
Speaker 1: in trouble in Jacksonville seems easy to do.
Speaker 2: The famous Idaho Potato Bowl h January third. Also ESPN,
Speaker 2: we got Ohio at six and six, We've got Nevada
Speaker 2: at seven and five. Ohio is seven and a half
Speaker 2: point favorite. So, for what it's worth, of all the
Speaker 2: bowl games, my numbers claimed that this was one of
Speaker 2: the biggest mismatches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so have that down too. Who am I to
Speaker 1: doubt the metrics? Who am I in general?
Speaker 2: But let's go Ohio for twenty six confidence points here the.
Speaker 1: Ohio at six and six building up the resume against
Speaker 1: some truly awful teams. The bottom of the mac is horrendous.
Speaker 1: This year. A nice offense. It feels like Nathan Rourke
Speaker 1: has been there forever a nice running backfield in general
Speaker 1: for the Bobcats. The defense for Ohio is the really
Speaker 1: awful thing for them in Nevada. Strange year. They finished
Speaker 1: their their season winning three of four, including beating San
Speaker 1: Diego State. Somehow, their offense and their defense are both
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I guess they're okay against the run, which
Speaker 1: is important against Ohio. Dom Peterson is worth watching, an
Speaker 1: All Mountain West talent at defensive end. I have Ohio
Speaker 1: here by double digits because bad Nevada is truly, truly horrible.
Speaker 1: The gift suite includes a ful Achiever computer backpack, a
Speaker 1: Herschel's Supply Company hit pack, which I think is a
Speaker 1: fancy way of saying fanny pack, a beanie, and a coin.
Speaker 1: And if you find yourself in Boise, it will probably
Speaker 1: be cold. I've spent some time in Boise. Good friend
Speaker 1: of mine is from there and lives there. Goldiees for breakfast,
Speaker 1: for sure. There's a gastro pub called Bitter Sweet Bitter Creek.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, I've been to the Westside driving for an
Speaker 1: ice cream potato in which they carve a or fashion
Speaker 1: a chunk of ice cream that looks like the inards
Speaker 1: of a potato and then rub it in cocoa to
Speaker 1: make it look like a skin. Pretty good, and burger
Speaker 1: belly for burgers. Can you please recite the name of
Speaker 1: that backpack again? Fool th h L Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: We finally got him on one. What is it? It's Toully?
Speaker 1: Is it really? It is Toully? Yes, we finally got
Speaker 1: a long last Osama Dan Lawden. We got him.
Speaker 2: Dan's Globe Tomato Final two, Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl.
Speaker 1: They better be get a missile in this game or
Speaker 1: something cool. Please do not give football players missiles.
Speaker 2: January fourth, ESPN two Lane at six and six, Southern
Speaker 2: Miss at seven and five, Tulane touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's Thu Lane, shut up, we got.
Speaker 2: Tulane lost their last three. Southern miss lost their last two.
Speaker 2: The best team that either of these guys beat was Army.
Speaker 2: Statistically about the same, though Tulane's got a much better
Speaker 2: offense here.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bite my lip and say TWU Lane for
Speaker 2: oh gosh, I have twenty seven points on this Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's too late at this point, so we'll
Speaker 2: just go tu lane twenty seven.
Speaker 1: What the hell? This game should be very entertaining because
Speaker 1: both of these defenses give up a ton of big plays,
Speaker 1: Southern Miss through the air and Tulane just in general,
Speaker 1: it was a somewhat disappointing year. I think we had
Speaker 1: some high hopes for Tulane as one of the better
Speaker 1: G five defense, especially with what they brought back up front.
Speaker 1: They did run the hell out of the ball, like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, and Southern Miss threw it pretty well. They
Speaker 1: couldn't run, so you're getting a good contrast of styles here.
Speaker 1: I think they should be entertaining. Fort Worth heard good things.
Speaker 1: Haven't spent a ton of time there. I'll go in
Speaker 1: food in a second. But the gift suite includes, but
Speaker 1: may not be limited to that. There's one hundred and
Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary coin, college football anniversary, a beanie, a neck
Speaker 1: pillow that's nice, football nine line apparel, patriotic athletic where Okay,
Speaker 1: fort Worth I have been yelled at before for writing
Speaker 1: off Fort Worth as a food town. And you know
Speaker 1: what I've done some more investigate and asked some questions
Speaker 1: of friends who spent time there. There's a new place
Speaker 1: for biscuits called hot Box, which looks very good. I
Speaker 1: think it's called I'm him for barbecue. I maybe heem heim.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I apologize for miss pronuncia. See, I'm
Speaker 1: in your head now, I am in here, now you
Speaker 1: are well. I'm gonna get this one right. Shinjuku Station
Speaker 1: for all things Japanese, especially Ramen, looks bonkers amazing. Who
Speaker 1: do you pick here again? I'm going I didn't say
Speaker 1: my pick. I'm going with two lane too little digits here. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And finally, on January the sixth, it is the Lending
Speaker 2: Tree Bowl on ESPN. The Louisiana Raging Cajun's at ten
Speaker 2: and three, the Miami Ohio Ridhawks at eight and five.
Speaker 1: Louisiana by Guy Chuck Martin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Louisiana is a fourteen point favorite. It's a big number,
Speaker 2: and I think that's because the Raging Cagen's actually pretty good.
Speaker 2: They had a really good season ten and three. Their
Speaker 2: only three losses came against Mississippi State and app State twice.
Speaker 2: They've got a really efficient rushing attack, one of the
Speaker 2: best in the country. They've got a forty year old
Speaker 2: up and comer in Billy Napier as their head football coach.
Speaker 2: He's been rumored for big jobs. Eventually he's going to
Speaker 2: get one of them, just not yet. Miami won the
Speaker 2: MAC over Central Michigan. But for what it's worth, you know,
Speaker 2: our friend Bill Connolly over at ESPN now, she tracks
Speaker 2: something called second order wins, which basically what it tells
Speaker 2: you is whether a.
Speaker 1: Team is more lucky than good.
Speaker 2: Right, and by that measure, Miami's a four win team.
Speaker 1: So let's go raging.
Speaker 2: Cagen's here to the tune of thirty two confident this points, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have them by about seventeen points here and yeah, Louisiana.
Speaker 2: They win six of their final seven. They do lose
Speaker 2: to app State in the Sun Bolts Championship game. They
Speaker 2: ran the hell out of the ball. Levi Lewis at quarterback.
Speaker 2: A very fun watch if you watch that Sun Belt
Speaker 2: Championship game. Their defense not great, but they were okay
Speaker 2: against the pass and it's stopping big plays. Miami's offense,
Speaker 2: Miami Ohio's offense, I guess, really any Miami's offense mostly dreadful.
Speaker 2: The pass defense was pretty good. Cameron Butler a very
Speaker 2: fun watch for Miami up front, But yeah, I have
Speaker 2: Louisiana comfortably. This is the lending Tree Bowl, and lending
Speaker 2: Tree I'm not going to recommend that service. That doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like a good thing to do. My sponsor, not
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Speaker 1: The gift suite includes personalized noise canceling headphones and a
Speaker 1: charging bank, So that's solid. Thanks lending Tree for that
Speaker 1: fossil watch and a Herschel Supply Company backpack. I think
Speaker 1: this is a very solid gift package, especially if there's
Speaker 1: more in that gift suite. If you find yourself in
Speaker 1: UH I think this game is in mobile, Yes, Noble
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Speaker 2: Yeah all right, Well, I think we covered a lot
Speaker 2: of ground in this show.
Speaker 1: I would agree.
Speaker 2: I think we covered a lot of ground in this show.
Speaker 2: So what you have to look forward to in the
Speaker 2: coming days and weeks. We obviously have a bunch of
Speaker 2: Bowl games that we will recap after we have results
Speaker 2: that we can read. We do have to preview the
Speaker 2: National Championship game. There is some just general college football
Speaker 2: news which we will get to and cover as soon
Speaker 2: as we can. And then, of course there's the big game,
Speaker 2: which I believe. Did we firm up the plans? Are
Speaker 2: we going to be watching this together?
Speaker 1: We are going to be watching this together.
Speaker 2: We're going to be watching the championship game together and
Speaker 2: then recapping the game on Tuesday morning, will drop our
Speaker 2: normal Tuesday morning recap of the National Championship before we effectively.
Speaker 1: Head to the real, real offseason. When was the last
Speaker 1: in person show we did together. It would probably be
Speaker 1: back in August when we were in DC. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a live show, I'm saying, like the
Speaker 1: last regular, not fantasy thing show.
Speaker 2: I guess maybe when we went to North Dakota, when
Speaker 2: we went to North like three year ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even that's sort of like not a regular show,
Speaker 1: not an ordinary show. We were recapping our visit there.
Speaker 1: So it's been a while. It might have been pre
Speaker 1: season twenty eighteen in my apartment, but yes, all baby
Speaker 1: came along, so we didn't go to the National Championship Game,
Speaker 1: not going to New Orleans this year because of some obligations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have been that time I lost my voice.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember you and Bill came to my
Speaker 1: apartment when we did nineties Internet things right, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you were at my apartment. So looking forward to doing
Speaker 1: these shows. We'll do a two's cruise to finish out
Speaker 1: the season and we'll recap everything. Some news real quick. Tie,
Speaker 1: you don't need to play any sounds I did see.
Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald turned down an interview request from the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers at Northwestern mentioned USC firing defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast
Speaker 1: and special teams coordinator John Baxter. Baxter a particularly noted recruiter.
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt has fired each of their offensive and defensive coordinators.
Speaker 1: Mike Norvell has been making some higher Steve Greatwood to
Speaker 1: me legendary offensive line coach. He spent much of his
Speaker 1: career at Oregon. He's retiring after I think three seasons
Speaker 1: at cal Otherwise, I mean we mentioned the dan Enos
Speaker 1: thing at Miami. He is out, so Miami will be looking.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Kirk Shirakairaka Shiraka, who did a terrific job
Speaker 1: with Minnesota and before that Western Michigan with PJ. Fleck.
Speaker 1: He is in at Penn State as Ricky Ronnie leaves
Speaker 1: to take a head coaching job. You know we've talked
Speaker 1: about Jeff Scott, so he hires Charlie Weis junior Okay
Speaker 1: from fau as Lane Kiffin leaves to be the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and quarterbacks coach with some it appears some promise.
Speaker 1: Kendall Briles is at Arkansas. So two I think seemingly
Speaker 1: pretty strong coordinators in Arkansas for Sam Pittman in Kendall
Speaker 1: Briles and Barry Otom. Marcus Arroyo hired away Casey Dunn
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma State. Casey done the longtime receivers coach and
Speaker 1: co offensive coordinator. If you look at the receivers who
Speaker 1: have come through Oklahoma State during his time there, you
Speaker 1: can't help but come away impressed. He will be the
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator at UNLV from Marcus Arroyo. Otherwise, I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's anything. I mean, Mike, You're sick.
Speaker 1: Appears to be the guy to take over at offensive
Speaker 1: coordinators Texas now that Ohio State's season is over. That
Speaker 1: looks like it's all but official. Chris ash is obviously
Speaker 1: official at defensive coordinator for Texas. I think that's all
Speaker 1: I have right now we've had some We'll do more
Speaker 1: draft stuff as we get close to that, and mentioned
Speaker 1: all the guys that are leaving early and not playing
Speaker 1: in bowl games. I think we've hit a lot of
Speaker 1: those already. But I think that's the big stuff here.
Speaker 1: And if I can, and I really really trust me,
Speaker 1: believe me, I don't mean to tag this on as
Speaker 1: like a and also one more thing, but I think
Speaker 1: it would be unfair not to and sort of didn't
Speaker 1: feel right not to discuss it. We weren't friends with
Speaker 1: ed Aschoff. We didn't know him all that well. I
Speaker 1: think we may have met him a couple times at
Speaker 1: national championships and so forth. There was something about his
Speaker 1: passing tie that was just devastating to me. The fact,
Speaker 1: the fact that I mean to calm a blogger isn't
Speaker 1: necessarily he was at ESPN. He was a reporter. I mean,
Speaker 1: most recently he was national reporter for ESPN, but he
Speaker 1: was He helped to run the old SEC blog that
Speaker 1: when ESPN had the Conference blogs. Thirty four years old
Speaker 1: on his birthday, engaged to be married in the spring,
Speaker 1: and just a really out of nowhere health situation. He
Speaker 1: had pneumonia that developed into HLH and I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. I just I feel like we're part
Speaker 1: of this digital college football, weird media world and it
Speaker 1: hit me, and I just I just want to say
Speaker 1: everybody seems to have loved him that had had come
Speaker 1: across him, you see, like all the reporters that were
Speaker 1: friends with them wearing the lapel flowers at bowl games
Speaker 1: to honor him and his style. But everybody could not
Speaker 1: help but say extraordinarily nice things about him. And so
Speaker 1: in a very strange way, I feel like in this world,
Speaker 1: we lost somebody that was that was pretty significant. So
Speaker 1: thoughts out to everybody that was affected and friends with
Speaker 1: him and close to him, and man, I just it
Speaker 1: was it was pretty heartbreaking stuff the way it all happened.
Speaker 1: So suddenly a.
Speaker 2: Shock to see that news on Christmas Eve, to say
Speaker 2: the least. And like you said, I mean, we haven't
Speaker 2: had it on the show, but to be part of
Speaker 2: the college football media sphere in any sense, you kind
Speaker 2: of get familiar with these names and Twitter handles and
Speaker 2: however you interact with people in this day and age,
Speaker 2: and yeah, that was that was incredibly sad news. Shocking
Speaker 2: news to say the least, and again. You know, we
Speaker 2: hate to have shows with bad news, but two bits
Speaker 2: of it here in this show. First thoughts obviously go
Speaker 2: out to the n Springers, and secondly to the ash
Speaker 2: Offs and all friends of ADS because that's a tough
Speaker 2: one to say the least. So yeah, with that being said,
Speaker 2: we do appreciate everyone for stopping on buy, for downloading
Speaker 2: the show, for taking part in our weirdness here as
Speaker 2: a college football podcast. We will be back very very
Speaker 2: soon talk more college football. We've got much to discuss
Speaker 2: here as the season plods forward, just a few games remaining.
Speaker 2: Dan and I will be back in due time to
Speaker 2: talk about that championship much much more. Daniel, enjoy the
Speaker 2: rest of your stay in Florida.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your New Year's ish time.
Speaker 2: For that guy over there, Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Ty Hildebrand,
Speaker 2: thank you so much again for downloading the show.
Speaker 1: We will talk to you all soon.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, stay solid, Heid