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Speaker 1: Welcome to Moss the territory, Ladies and gentlemen. Thank goodness

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Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots, because if they lost against

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Speaker 1: the Chargers this past weekend, that might have been one

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Speaker 1: We are all still reeling over Alex Brugman going to

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Speaker 1: The more we start to hear about Bregmann going to

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Speaker 1: And you know what, you know, we've had a couple

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Speaker 1: over the last couple of days really don't feel any better.

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Speaker 1: And the front office right now, they are not looking

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Speaker 1: Absolutely Bregman should have taken that deal. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: will say it starts not a free agent, not a trade.

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Speaker 1: I think it starts within. Obviously they got to look

426
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Speaker 1: at themselves in the mirror, but you also have to

427
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Speaker 1: have the talent within the organization take a step forward

428
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Speaker 1: next year. And I hate to put the pressure on

429
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Speaker 1: Roman Anthony, but listen, the Red Sox obviously value him highly.

430
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but he is going to

431
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: have to take a big step forward right because it

432
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: feels like to me, the Red Sox are putting a

433
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Speaker 1: lot of stock into him, and that's not his fault.

434
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Speaker 1: You know, he's obviously very good. But you know, hopefully

435
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Speaker 1: Roman grows into being that excellent player that we all

436
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,479
Speaker 1: think he's going to be. That in my personal opinion,

437
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: what I know he's going to be the guy is amazing.

438
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Speaker 1: And I did ask about, you know, where he could

439
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Speaker 1: bat in the lineup this coming year. Here's the clip.

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Speaker 2: One topic with you has been where do you bat

441
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Speaker 2: in the lineup? You did great in the leadoff spot

442
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Speaker 2: this past year. Would you like to stay there or

443
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Speaker 2: what do you think?

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Speaker 3: Wherever they put me? Yeah, as long as I'm in

445
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 3: the lineup doesn't matter to me. You know, Luckily enough

446
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: for me, I hitting the one hole, I hitt the

447
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: two hole, I hitting the three hole, hitting the five hole,

448
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: hitting the nine hole, and spring like hit everywhere. So

449
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: as long as I'm in the lineup with the guys,

450
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Speaker 3: you know, wherever that may be is is out of

451
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Speaker 3: my reach. But I'll do my best.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think you were so great leading off?

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Speaker 3: I think for me, uh, as a lead off, Luckily

454
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Speaker 3: I got to get some experience in the minor leagues.

455
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Speaker 3: But you know, when you're the leadoff hitter, you got

456
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Speaker 3: to you know, kind of buy into a different role

457
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: of of you know, doing everything you can and fighting

458
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Speaker 3: in the box in every which way to just find

459
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Speaker 3: a way on.

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Speaker 2: And so for.

461
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Speaker 3: Me, I was super bought into that, just trying to

462
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Speaker 3: see as many pitches as I can, you know, for

463
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Speaker 3: the guys behind me, trying to grind out AB's, grind

464
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Speaker 3: out my walks and do damage on pitches that I

465
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Speaker 3: should do damage on. And I think I did a

466
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Speaker 3: good job of that in the lead off full, but

467
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Speaker 3: I I, you know, took a lot of pride and

468
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of getting the boys going and being

469
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Speaker 3: in the lead off full and being the spark plug

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Speaker 3: in a sense.

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Speaker 1: All right. So you know, for me, I do think

472
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Speaker 1: personally that Roman should bat lead off, But depending on

473
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Speaker 1: how this plays out, you know, who knows, maybe Roman

474
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Speaker 1: ends up maybe batting in that three spot possibly, you know,

475
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Speaker 1: maybe if Duran is still with the team, maybe you

476
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Speaker 1: have Duran lead off again. I know he was a

477
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Speaker 1: bit inconsistent there last year, but if you need a

478
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Speaker 1: bit more production in the middle of the order there,

479
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Speaker 1: maybe Roman ends up batting third. You know, you have

480
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Speaker 1: Duran lead off, and then a story bat second Roman

481
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Speaker 1: bats third. You know, that's pretty good protection for story,

482
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: I'll say that. And then you have Wilson Treres batting fits. So,

483
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, I could see a situation like that where

484
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Speaker 1: even though Roman was so good leading off, you kind

485
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: of wonder if without Bregman, maybe he would be better

486
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Speaker 1: served batting more in the middle of the order to

487
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Speaker 1: really help with that run production. Right, We'll see what

488
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Speaker 1: ends up happening. But I thought that was I thought,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting what he was saying there.

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Speaker 1: He was just seemed very dialed in explaining how he

491
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Speaker 1: felt in the leadoff spot. So Christian Campbell, I'm definitely

492
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Speaker 1: hoping Christian Campbell can bounce back this coming year. With

493
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Speaker 1: Christian Campbell, obviously he fell off this past year, but

494
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: you got to remember coming in to twenty twenty five,

495
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: there was a lot of hype around him, and yes,

496
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: I understand, you know, where is he going to play?

497
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: I think eventually that will figure itself out. I do

498
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: believe that, But he is going to have to get

499
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: back to what he was doing. This guy soared through

500
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: the minor leagues. He's got to get that bat right.

501
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, he's put on some way. I did talk

502
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: to him in that in the media scrum this past weekend,

503
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: and he definitely looks good. He looks like he's added

504
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 1: on some good weight. He's definitely looking a little thicker.

505
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: I'll say that, he looks like he's growing more into

506
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: his frame. It's it did seem like he was starting

507
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: to Obviously the numbers speak for themselves, but you could

508
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: see where, you know, he just seemed a little I

509
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: guess it was tired as the season wore on, right,

510
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: he just had so much energy in that first you know,

511
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: month of the season. Then you just started to see

512
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: where you're slowing down a little bit, right, things are

513
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: looking wonky at the plate, and you know, combine that

514
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: with the fact that pictures are starting to figure him

515
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: out a little bit. You know, it just ended up

516
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: being a perfect storm for him. But if that back

517
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 1: gets going again and it gets back to what we

518
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: were expecting it to be this past year, that's gonna

519
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: be a huge lift for the Red Sox. Right. Remember

520
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: we're all talking about Christian Campbell, you know, being the

521
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Speaker 1: everyday second baseman for years to come. You know, who knows,

522
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe that could end up happening again at

523
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Speaker 1: some point down the road of the Marcelo Meyers or

524
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: third basement. And you know, stories are short. We'll see.

525
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Speaker 1: But whatever it is, I think Campbell bouncing back this

526
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Speaker 1: this coming year is going to be a big key,

527
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Speaker 1: regardless of what they do. And then you're looking at

528
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: Marcela Meyer as well. I mean, obviously I'm talking about

529
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: the big three prospects here, but Meyer is gonna have

530
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: to stay healthy. He is gonna have to figure that out, right.

531
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: He looks like he's in some pretty good shape. He

532
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: had some good vibes of Femway Fest. I spoke with

533
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: him a little bit. He's looking pretty good. But the

534
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: key he has gotta stay healthy this year, right, gotta

535
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: work on that swing and miss a little bit. Did

536
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: talk with Peter Fatsi at Famway Fest and he said, really,

537
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: it just comes down to the swing decisions, right, you know,

538
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: just kinda thinking about where he's at in the count obviously,

539
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, being able to recognize certain pitches right and

540
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Speaker 1: just get a better feel. That's kind of the the

541
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Speaker 1: perception that I got from Peter Fatzy talking about it. Right,

542
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: just comes down to the decisions at the end of

543
00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 1: the day. But besides the internal up. There's my timer.

544
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: Here's my timer. But besides the internal improvements that they

545
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: got to have, and not just with those three guys, right,

546
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: you would like for Cassas to get healthy, maybe contribute

547
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: in the second half at some point. Right who knows,

548
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, he can bring that power back to the

549
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: lineup a little bit. We'll see what ends up happening

550
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Speaker 1: with him. You know, I'm not gonna have any big

551
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: expectations of him, but that would be a nice surprise

552
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: if he could come back at some point and start

553
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: doing some damage there, start getting some guys taking some

554
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: steps forward, especially within the pitching staff as well. So

555
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunities for guys to take step

556
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: forwards and bounce back this coming year that could help

557
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: make up that production there. We'll just wait and see.

558
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: Remember there still is a lot of talent within this organization.

559
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: But of course you still need to go make another move.

560
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: You gotta do it and option A optionee you know?

561
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: I you know again or I don't. I want to

562
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: say Option A, Option B, Plan B. Plan A for

563
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: me was Bregman. When now I got Plan B and

564
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: uh we'll call it planed bo Bashett, Plan B B

565
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean, of course he's gonna be planned b. Now,

566
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: do I expect the Red Sox to go after him? Yeah?

567
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: Do I expect the Red Sox to sign him? Probably not.

568
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: Their activity within free agency has been lackluster. I hate

569
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: to say that. I really wish that I could say, Man,

570
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: I have confidence. I feel like they're gonna really make

571
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: a push and and they're gonna have a shot. I

572
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: don't have confidence with that. They didn't want to go

573
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Speaker 1: to the distance of Bregman. You go back the last

574
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: couple of years, you go back to Freed last year

575
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: they let him go to the Yankees, right, they did

576
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: pivot to Crochet obviously, you know, you just go back

577
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: a couple off seasons ago the only guy they landed,

578
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: which it was Gielito. You know, I just I don't

579
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: have the confidence with it. Could again, could this be

580
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: a wake up call for them? Maybe until I see it.

581
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna believe until I see it.

582
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: But obviously with Bashet, he is the clear replacement for

583
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Alex Bregman. And uh, I mean, listen the offense that

584
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: he brings to the table. It would be huge for

585
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: this team. It would be massive. Now defensively, who knows

586
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: what that's gonna look like, whether that's at second base,

587
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: third base, whatever, I don't know. I don't know what

588
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: to say about that. The defensive short has him been good.

589
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: The range has not been very good. Maybe he could

590
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: be a better fit of third base, but I'm not

591
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: sure about the reaction times with him out there. I

592
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: don't know. Who knows, but you do know that Bat

593
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: is going to be very good in this line. I mean,

594
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: he basically just replaces Bregman. He did miss some time

595
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: this past year. He also had he had a knee

596
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: injury caused him this time in the postseason. So you know, offensively, yeah,

597
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: that could be pretty good. Defensively not. I'm so sure

598
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna cost a lot of money. I'm not really

599
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: sure what to even think of that. You know, when

600
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: it comes to what the contract could look like, I'm thinking,

601
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of looking at let me

602
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: actually go here. I did post this the other day.

603
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Let me go, I did look at some numbers. I

604
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: did crunch some of it. Lumberloney he was saying, here,

605
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: let me zoom out there. I cannot hold on a second.

606
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm really zoomed out, all right, So Lumberloney,

607
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Speaker 1: I believe he said nine and three point fifteen. I

608
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: put eight two seventy nine and a half. So let's

609
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Speaker 1: just say eight at two eighty. I factored in if

610
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: you were to get an eight year deal. I believe

611
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: he could put up a twenty seven wins above replacement

612
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: over that time, A four war over the first three seasons,

613
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: three and a half in twenty twenty nine and twenty thirty,

614
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: a three war in twenty thirty one, and then I

615
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: dropped it down to a two and a half in

616
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Speaker 1: twenty thirty two, twenty thirty three. Uh, mix in some

617
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: market bidding that could up the price. I put around

618
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: fifteen percent. That came out the war value. That came

619
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: out to around two hundred and forty three million, and

620
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: then add fifteen percent of that, which was thirty six

621
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Speaker 1: and a half million. That came out to eight and

622
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Speaker 1: two seventy nine and a half million. Lu Malone said

623
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Speaker 1: nine three fifteen. He's been pretty good at the contracts,

624
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: So I think you know around that, I think you

625
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: probably end up seeing if it does get to that length.

626
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: I think you do see at least the mid two

627
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: hundreds somewhere getting close to the three hundred mark if

628
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: it is. If he does get nine years, I do

629
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Speaker 1: think it goes over three hundred million. I don't know

630
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: if the Red Sox are gonna do it. I would

631
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: love to say it, ladies and gentlemen, I really would,

632
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 1: But how could we at this point, I don't I

633
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it could be a wake up call,

634
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna bank on it now. Chris Catillo,

635
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: Sean McCadam. They did have an article here what We're

636
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: hearing and what's next for the Red Sox after losing

637
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: out on Alex Bregman. Now, the one name that seems

638
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: to be floating around as of right now is Eugenio Suarez.

639
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: And you know, because you think of obviously Bobashat's gonna

640
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: be very expensive. But with Uhenio Suarez, you kind of

641
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: wonder if that's the guy that fits more into their

642
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: comfort zone when it comes to contracts. Yes, he just

643
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: turned thirty four years old, or he's just about to

644
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: turn thirty four. Probably not gonna get a long term deal.

645
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna get what maybe you know, two three years.

646
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: Based off of the Red Sox activity that seems to

647
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: be what they go for. I could see something around

648
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: that twenty five, you know, maybe twenty two to twenty

649
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: five million per year. I could see something like that.

650
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: With Suarez. The plate discipline is not good. It is

651
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: terrible with him. He strikes out a ton. Yes, he's

652
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: gonna give you a ton of power, but you wonder, Yes,

653
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: he is thirty four years old. He is gonna be

654
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 1: turning thirty five at some point in twenty twenty six,

655
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: so you just wonder as he starts to get older,

656
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: when is that power gonna start coming down? And with

657
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: the bad plate discipline that he has, I mean, I

658
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: don't know. It doesn't sound like a recipe for success.

659
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: Maybe he can get one more good year out of him,

660
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: maybe two. I think you could still get a good

661
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: amount of power with him for one year. But what's

662
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: that gonna look like in twenty twenty seven. I don't know. Personally,

663
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of it. Yes, I love the power.

664
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: I think it'd be pretty fun to have all those

665
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: moonshit Famway Park and wherever they go, But I hate

666
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: the strikeouts. Right, he had I believe a thirty far

667
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: right around a yeah, thirty percent this past year with

668
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: the Mariners and the Diamondbacks, it's a lot of strikeouts.

669
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: Maybe the Red Sox could tweak something, Maybe they could

670
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: help them with something. I don't know. You know, they

671
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: haven't been the greatest organization when it comes to cutting

672
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: down the case. I mean, Roman came into the fold,

673
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: and I mean they changed the game there. I mean,

674
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, they did help Roman with a couple of

675
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: things play discipline wise over the last couple of years.

676
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they could tweak something with Suarez. I'm

677
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: not so sure. I'd rather have bo I guess I

678
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: would be okay with Suarez, but you know, I'd feel

679
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: a little underwhelming and it just has a weird feel

680
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: to it. But I also wonder if so if you

681
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: think about Bregman, right, he ended up getting with the

682
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: deferrals right around thirty million per year, I would imagine

683
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of you know, that's obviously where the Red

684
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: Sox are going to be read around as well. So

685
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: if you think it, okay, where could we spread out

686
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: that thirty million dollars? Well, Suarez, let's say, you know,

687
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: let's just say maybe you know, twenty four, twenty three

688
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: to twenty four millions something in that range. Well, that's

689
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: where maybe you can look to the trade market for

690
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: a picture a guy that's not going to cost much

691
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: salary wise. You look at a guy like Freddy perraulta

692
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: making eight million dollars this coming year. Maybe the Red

693
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: Sox could revisit something with Joe Ryan. We did talk

694
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: about this, right, we talked about it earlier in the offseason.

695
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: Maybe the Twins were playing that leverage game. Nah, we

696
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: don't really need to move Joe. I don't know why

697
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: everyone's yapping about Joe Ryan getting traded, like, you know,

698
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: like we have to trade him. They don't have to

699
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: trade him. He still has a couple of years until

700
00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: free agency. So maybe the Red Sox could approach them again.

701
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, Mackenzie Gore, you know, you could do

702
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: something there. That's where I kind of wonder if they

703
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: go spend on someone like Suarez, I think they would

704
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: have a little bit more wiggle room to add a

705
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: guy that's in arbitration, right, and you're kind of around

706
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: that thirty to thirty five million dollar mark. With a

707
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: combination of those two and wins above replacement wise, it's

708
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: around the same salary or that as Bregman, right, but

709
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: Win's above replacement wise, you know, you're probably gonna get

710
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: more than what Bregman would give you a loan. So

711
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: that's kind of where you could spread it out between

712
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: a couple of guys but end up paying the same amount, right,

713
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: So I could see that. Another problem with Suarez is

714
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: not just the strikeouts, is the defense as well. I

715
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's funny with Suarez because he

716
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: has had some good defense in the past, but this

717
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: past year it just didn't look good, right. I don't know.

718
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: If he was just focusing on the power, I don't know,

719
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: but it's you look at the age he's getting older,

720
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, did he was he just not feeling great

721
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: in the field this past year or just starting to

722
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: slow down? I don't know. So you do worry about

723
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: that defense at third base. I mean, they'd be terrible

724
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: going from Rafi to Bregman, which is a huge improvement,

725
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: and then back to Suarez. You know, it's like, oh,

726
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: kind of wonder about that, you know, I mean, could

727
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: you do a situation where you know Suarez is mostly

728
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, your DH cut ties with Masa, I don't know,

729
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: could you trade an outfielder. I don't know. I don't

730
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: know about that. I don't know, but to me, I

731
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: think if you're bringing Suarez, the most likely spot would

732
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: be third base. I don't know, unless they got creative

733
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: with the roster. Now, another option, you could trade for

734
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: Suarez or a sorry. You could sign Suarez and then

735
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: trade for an upgrade in the rotation, or you could

736
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: do vice versa. So this is where I'm looking at.

737
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Play C one, which is Suarez in trade for a picture,

738
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: or playing C two you could trade for a bat

739
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: and sign a picture. Esak paratus they've been connected to

740
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: a big bodied guy, doesn't move great at third base,

741
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: but you know, for the most part, he'll get the

742
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: job done. He'll give you some decent pop. He had

743
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: twenty home runs. He did miss time this past year

744
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: over one hundred and two games. He did hit twenty

745
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: home runs. So that's a guy that you know could

746
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: probably approach thirty home runs for you at Famway Park,

747
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: and he did it in Tampa back in twenty twenty three,

748
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: hit thirty one. You know, he's got that pole swing

749
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: fits pretty well at Firmway Park. You know, he had

750
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: the hamstring injury though he is good to go for

751
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: spring training this coming year. So you know, it's something

752
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: you just got to think about with him. But you know,

753
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the worst option in my opinion. It's

754
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: lower on the totem pole for sure. You know who knows,

755
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, what the astros is going to be asking

756
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: for at that point. I would imagine they would try

757
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: to get Peyton totally Connolly early. I don't think that

758
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 1: they would be able to get those guys. But maybe

759
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: you could do something a little lesser. Let's actually pull up,

760
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: you know what a trade for Paradis could look like.

761
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: Let's take a look. See. So with Parade you know,

762
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: with Paradis, he's got a couple more years of control.

763
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: You're gonna have him for twenty twenty six and at

764
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. So if we're looking here at the

765
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: values on BTV, you know, it's not really as much

766
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: as you would think. The median value on baseball trade

767
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: values as of right now is eleven and a half million.

768
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: You know. And the thing with Artus is another thing

769
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: to think about too, is he's gonna make a decent

770
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 1: amount in arbitration if actually go to the payroll here

771
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: with the Astros. He is scheduled. He made I believe

772
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: it was around like seven or eight million this past year.

773
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: That's probably gonna get near around nine and a half million.

774
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: So he's not gonna be like a cheap addition, you know,

775
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: nine million compared to the big bats out there, not

776
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: that much, but still that is a chunk. No, I

777
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: don't think it matters all that much. Just something to

778
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: think about. But because of the higher salary in his

779
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: arbitration years, that is going to lower his overall trade value,

780
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: right because you subtract the project you subtract the salary

781
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: from the projections, so he wouldn't cost all that much

782
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: in terms of talent. So, you know, the Red Sox

783
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: they've been trading away guys. You know, they've been trading

784
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 1: away a lot of depth, like Hunter Dobbins, h Richard

785
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: fitz right, some you know, prospects in that mid to

786
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: lower range, you know. So for Paradus, you know, I think,

787
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm the Red Sox, let's take a look.

788
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: You know who's Who's a couple of guys you could

789
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: possibly send back. Now you gotta I'll talk about the

790
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: astros point of viewing just a second. You know, you

791
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: kind of wonder, like, you know, I don't think you

792
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: would have to part with any of these top guys.

793
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: I really don't. I you know, maybe could send back

794
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Harrison, you know, if the Astros wanted another picture,

795
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: could Kyle Harrison possibly be a guy that you send

796
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: back right again, that's another depth guy, Kyle Harrison. Maybe

797
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: send back like Mikey Romero something like that. You know,

798
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 1: then you're maybe on the right track there for Paradus maybe,

799
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: But if you were to trade for a bat, Paradis

800
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: could be an option. You got Brendan Donovan out there.

801
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna cost a lot more than Paradis, I'll tell

802
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: you that. And I kind of wonder with Donovan. I'm

803
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: not sure if I like I've talked about Donovan, I've

804
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: talked about the fit before, but because you don't have Bregman,

805
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking more so Bregman and Donovan, you know,

806
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: if you were to go that route, because I do

807
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: like the high contact bat of Donovan, but with Bregman

808
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: he gives you a bit more pop there. Donovan is

809
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: more gonna be a straight up bat to ball kind

810
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: of a guy. He's gonna give you some decent speed.

811
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna give you a ton of versatility in the field,

812
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: you know. But you could look at it where Donovan

813
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: if you bring him in, Yeah, you would have lefty

814
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: lefty to start things off. Donovan is not great against

815
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: left handed pitching, so that is something to think about.

816
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: But against righty's you'd have Roman Donovan and then uh,

817
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, have the guys behind him right So then

818
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: again you kind of look at like, would Duran bat

819
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: third son? You have three straight lefties, you know, so

820
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of where like, I'm not so sure about

821
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: Donovan unless you had another right handed bat. So I

822
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like I've leaned more, I've leaned

823
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: less towards that over the last couple of days. I

824
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: hate to do this, but Nolan Aeronauto I would laugh

825
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: if the Red Sox made I know, Donovan's with the Cardinals,

826
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: but Donovan's different. He's just a much better player who

827
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have a big salary. I would laugh if the

828
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: Red Sox got Aeronado. I really would. If you got

829
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: Gray Contreras and Aeronado in the same offseason contracts that

830
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: were underwater with the Cardinals, like that'd be hilarious to me.

831
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of Eronado. At this point last year,

832
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: you you could have convinced me I was speaking of

833
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: the positives of Aeronaudo. But that was after one down year.

834
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: He's coming off two down years now. Yes, he had

835
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: a shoulder injury this past year, but you know he

836
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: started to getting towards his mid thirties. Now he's almost

837
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: thirty five. So Aeronatto at this point, you know, sure

838
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: of the defense and it'll be fine. I don't, okay,

839
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to stay fine. It'll be good at third,

840
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: But what would the bat even look like? Could you

841
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: even get creative and maybe figure out a way to

842
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: get Brett Baty? You know Batty, he's a guy that

843
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: can play second or third base. I don't know why.

844
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me. I'm probably completely wrong about this.

845
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: He kind of almost reminds me of like Jed Lowry

846
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: in a way that's probably not a good comparison. I

847
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: just I don't know why. I just see Jed Lowry

848
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: for some reason. You know, speaking of the Cubs, you

849
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: know that of the Cubs have taken Bregman for you,

850
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they got a couple of guys here, Nico

851
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: Horner right, you know, Nico Horne is gonna be a

852
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: free agent soon. You know, there's question marks right now

853
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: with the Cubs. What's gonna happen with they're infield? Now

854
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: that Bregman's at third, where are they gonna put Shaw?

855
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Where are they gonna Horner is at second base right now?

856
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: So is Shaw gonna be your utility guy? Or do

857
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: you move Horner in a separate trade and then you

858
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: got Shaw as second base? Or could Matt Shaw be available?

859
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: The Red Sox were connected with Shaw in the draft.

860
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: They were definitely looking at him, and then the Cubs

861
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: ended up taking him before he got to the Red Sox.

862
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: So that'd be pretty funny if you ask me. I'm

863
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: a big Matt Shaw fan. The player that he was

864
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: in college reminded me a lot of Dustin Bedroia. It

865
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: just really gave me that kind of energy, like a

866
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: high energy kind of a player, a gritty kind of

867
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: a player. He was very inconsistent this past year getting him.

868
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: At this point, you're looking more at the potential, So

869
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if this would be something the Red

870
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: Sox would value. There's more upside at this point than floor.

871
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: We'll see what ends up happening. You know, I don't

872
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: think the I don't think Nico Horner or Shaw make

873
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to the Redis because Horner he's

874
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: gonna be more of a contact kind of a guy,

875
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: is a right handed bat. You know, maybe you can

876
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: get a little bit more pop with the Monster there

877
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: play some wallball. But he's gonna be a free agent

878
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: after next year. And Shaw, I feel like the Cubs

879
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: would want to hang on to him because he's got

880
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 1: multiple years of control left. However, you know, the Red

881
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: Sox there are some trade options, right and then if

882
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: they make a trade, maybe they could go spend a

883
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: good amount of money on a picture. Sorry to bring

884
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: up Frae Ravaldez with all the problems that he's had

885
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: this past year with the cross up situation, look like

886
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: he really hurt his market with that, but he is

887
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: a guy who's been very good. That could be a

888
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: big upgrade for the rotation right there. Now, could the

889
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: whole cross up situation maybe help the Red Sox. I

890
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: don't know what his market even is at this point.

891
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't heard anything about Framber unless

892
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: it's the Mets and the Orioles. So maybe the Red

893
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: Sox could look at that and be like, hey, uh, well,

894
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: you know, we got to figure out what the heck

895
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: happened with him and his catcher. But uh maybe Framber

896
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: could be an upgrade behind Crochet. If not him, maybe Ranger.

897
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: Suarez a guy that has had a lot of success

898
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: in the postseason. He's been a very solid guy. He's

899
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: had a couple of things throughout the years where you know,

900
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: something you know, like with his back or whatever. He

901
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: seems to just get like some kind of a nagging

902
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: injury every single year. He's always around like one hundred

903
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: and forty to one hundred and fifty innings pitched. But

904
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: Suarez is a guy where you know, he's had a

905
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: lot of success. You know, he's thirty years old, just

906
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: turned thirty, where Framber's thirty two. So is Framber thirty two?

907
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: He's thirty two, So I don't know, Maybe Ranger, maybe

908
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: you can get him on like a four year deal.

909
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: You know, I wonder at this point if either one

910
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: of those eyes could be under five years. We'll see.

911
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: Zach Gallon had a pretty bad first half last year,

912
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: but it did look a lot better in the second half.

913
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: He's had a good, good track record before this year.

914
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three he was a five war pitcher. Twenty

915
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty three he was over a

916
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: nine fangraft war and then twenty four he was right

917
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: around a three. This past year obviously, he really you know,

918
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: the numbers came crashing back down. He's given up a

919
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: lot of home runs, He's giving up a lot of

920
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: hard hits, the strikeouts were down. You know about the

921
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: Red Sox, they have been able to work magic before

922
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: where they can tweak a couple of things and you know,

923
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: maybe get some success and maybe he can get Gallen

924
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: on some kind of a cheaper deal. But that could

925
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: be playing C two trade for a bat and then

926
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: sign an upgrade for the rotation, you know, and that

927
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: could still when you look at the cost overall of

928
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: what the you know, compared to the aav of Bregman,

929
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: that could be right around the same. Or could you

930
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: do something with Jaron Duran. Obviously Jaron Duran, we've been

931
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: talking about trades. You know, what could we where could

932
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: we trade Duran? What could we get back for him?

933
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: To me? I think there's two destinations for Duran. I

934
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: think it's Kansas City or Cincinnati. Kansas City. I think

935
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: the only way that works is they do Cole Reagans.

936
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: To me, if you could do Duran and a couple

937
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: other solid guys to go along with him, and go

938
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: get Cole Reagan's I'm doing that all day, I'm doing it,

939
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: and I think that's what the Red Sox would want

940
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: to do. We still got a lot of off season left.

941
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: We have another month before pictures and catchers report. Keep

942
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: your eyes out for Duran man. You know, you never know.

943
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: If they could get Reagans, that would be amazing. Now

944
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 1: the Reds, I mean the Red Side. You know, they

945
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: still want to add bats. They have not really been

946
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: able to do all that much. They added JJ Bledet

947
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: and Dane Myers, but that's not really a needle mover

948
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: for this Neither of those guys are needle movers for

949
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: the lineup. They still got some good pitching over there.

950
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: Remember we talked about Hunter Green with felt like ten

951
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: years ago. At this point, got Abbott, you got Lodolo,

952
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: Maybe you could do something there. Yeah, So there are

953
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: ways to improve this roster. There are ways, and I'm

954
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: getting back here, circling back to the first option. I

955
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: don't know why my gut is starting to tell me

956
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: that Suarez could be the guy. It just feels like it.

957
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: I see you in the chat Green Monster nineteen, Sharon

958
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: stays all day, I will say this. I forgot to

959
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: mention this. Thank you, Green Monster. I will say this

960
00:53:54,480 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: about Duran. I do feel like at this point with

961
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: Bregman Gahn, I feel like you probably should keep Duran

962
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: at this point and you share the DH spot with Roman.

963
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: To me, I mean you just lost a good bat.

964
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like you need to keep Duran.

965
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: The only way I'm trading Duran is if I get

966
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: a stud guy Reagan's or Hunter Green Like, that's the

967
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: only way I'm getting rid of him. I just think,

968
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: to me, Duran in the three spot last year, he

969
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: was so good. He was a lot better in the

970
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: three spot last year. I actually want you know if

971
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: you actually go to the splits with Duran in batting

972
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: third last year, he hit two sixty six over twenty

973
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: five games. But if you look at the WRC plus

974
00:54:52,880 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: he was he had a one thirty eight.

975
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 4: Hold on a second he had a one thirty eight

976
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 4: WRC plus and he had an eight sixty three ops

977
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 4: with a four seventy nine on the slugging, so it

978
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 4: seemed like Duran.

979
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: Was a lot more comfortable there now. Granted he was

980
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: behind Bregman, you know, so he was offering that protection.

981
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: But to me, I think at this point it probably

982
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: makes more sense to keep Duran, especially now that Bregman's

983
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: not coming back. So that's kind of the way I feel. Again,

984
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: the only way I'm even doing it is if you

985
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: get Reagan's or Hunter Green, that's it. So that's why

986
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna circle back to Suarez, and I feel like

987
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: he is pro I don't know, I don't want to

988
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: predict it, but based off of feel, it does feel

989
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: like he's the guy, you know, and then you go

990
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: after maybe you make a trade for a picture or

991
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, again, it could be the other way around.

992
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: Sign a bat, trade for a picture, or trade for

993
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: a bat, sign a picture. I wonder, but you kind

994
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: of look at the Red Sox the way their activity

995
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: has been, you kind of wonder if they're just gonna

996
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: wait and see what falls in their lap, you know,

997
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: are they gonna keep playing this game of you know,

998
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: hey whatever, you know, we want our cake and we

999
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna eat it too. So is is that what's

1000
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen here? They're just gonna wait for whatever to unfold.

1001
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see it as a little frustrating.

1002
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, though. I mean, I don't think it's

1003
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I'm not very confident in it. I hope

1004
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I hope Bo is the guy. I

1005
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be the guy. I hope he is,

1006
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: but I don't see it. You got the Phillies there,

1007
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: I mean they jumped into the picture. Dave Dombrowski, John Middleton,

1008
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: those guys are you know, I've called them the two

1009
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: headed monster. When they want someone over there, they have

1010
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: more success than not. I mean, look at all the

1011
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: guys they've been able to bring in. I mean, brought

1012
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: back Schorebro this past year. You signed Trey Turner, Bryce

1013
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: Harper back in twenty nineteen. You know, the Phillies are.

1014
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: They're just so good at being able to land guys

1015
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: and they got a very talented team there. You know,

1016
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: if Bo gets a good offer from them, why wouldn't

1017
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: he go there? So to me, the Red Sox would

1018
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: have to beat whatever they would offer, I think by

1019
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: a good amount. And I don't. I don't believe. I don't.

1020
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to say I don't believe in their

1021
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 1: ability to do so. I think they could, I don't

1022
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: believe in their willingness to do so. That's the problem.

1023
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: That's where again I think about Suarez. We had this

1024
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: here from Chris Catillo today. I forgot to mention this earlier.

1025
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: According to a source with knowledge of Suarez's market, the

1026
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: Red Sox have indicated they like Suarez and there's an

1027
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: expectation that he will soon find out whether or not

1028
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: they plan on being serious bidders. About a month ago,

1029
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: they viewed him as a fallback option if Bregman, Polanco

1030
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: and Marte came on the board. So we'll see, we'll see.

1031
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: But uh, obviously everybody, it's uh, you know, we're still

1032
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: reeling over here. We're still trying to get ourselves together.

1033
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: We're still trying to pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off,

1034
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: and get back on our feet. But man, oh man,

1035
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: this was a tough one. Lots of fallout, lots of

1036
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: reaction the front office. They're getting pummeled, and rightfully so,

1037
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: I think rightfully, so I think they should be. And

1038
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: I really hope, I'll say it one more time. I

1039
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: really hope they got a slap in the face. I

1040
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: really hope they got a wake up call. Do I

1041
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: believe that they did. I don't know. Probably not, but

1042
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: who knows. I hope they look at themselves in the mirror,

1043
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: because they really got to start. They gotta stop playing

1044
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: these games, and they got to just go start going

1045
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: after guys and putting the best team on the field.

1046
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say. But everybody, I am out

1047
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: of here. That's all I got here for tonight. I

1048
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: know I rambled there. I know I was kind of

1049
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: bouncing back and forth, you know, you know, my potato brain.

1050
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: That tends to be how I work. But hopefully I

1051
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: went over as many options as I could. If you

1052
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: have any other options, let me know down below in

1053
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: the comments after the show is over. If you kind

1054
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: of the way out, hit the like button for me.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe if you're new, really helps out. We actually also

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Speaker 1: got to six K subscribers this past weekend, so thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. Do appreciate that. That's awesome. Let's kind

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Speaker 1: of get to seven k. Can we get to seven

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Speaker 1: k by opening day. Maybe we'll see the seven k

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Speaker 1: is the next goal. Everybody, go, have yourself a great night,

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Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you next time. Down b