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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi, everybody, welcome in. 12 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: We're going to go to Cleveland Mary K. Cabot today 13 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: to Seaun Watson. He's getting heckled. He's now willing to 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: accept an eight game suspension. What about ten or twelve? 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo stories, all of it coming up with a 16 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: great reporter, Mary kay Cabot. You know, I was thinking 17 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers yesterday was critical of his young Green Bay 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Packer rookie receivers and it would eventually come. He said, 19 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: there's too inconsistent, there's too many drops, too many bad routes. 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: And I've said this before, Jamar Chase is an outlier. 21 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup really didn't hit until about year four. That's 22 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: usually the case now more so than ever. It's a 23 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: weapons league, but wide receiver is a timing position, and 24 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: if the quarterback has a bad left tackle or the 25 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: quarterback has less time to throw, it disrupts everything. And 26 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: the green Bay offensive line this year has two guys 27 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: coming off acl tears. Plus they're tight end, so they're 28 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: going to need a really good run game and they're 29 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: going to need their whiteouts to be important. So here's 30 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: the good news for the Packers. And I'm not anti 31 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: green Bay, but I have Minnesota winning the division. The 32 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: good news for them is that they get a lot 33 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: of go either way games at home take out their 34 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: division games. They get let's say, Patriots go either way 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: game home, they get the Cowboys go either way game 36 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: at home, they get the Rams, go either way game 37 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: at home. They get the Titans a go either way 38 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: game at home. So that's the good news with a schedule, 39 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: a lot of go either way games at home, and 40 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: they do get some really weak quarterbacks. They face Daniel Jones, 41 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: they'll face Justin Fields, twice in division. But what's interesting 42 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: is they face a lot of high powered offenses and 43 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay will all acknowledge this, This is not going 44 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: to be as dynamic and offense would Dante Adams, And 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: this is what's interesting. So Matt Lafleur is viewed as 46 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: an offensive guy, right since he's arrived with Aaron Rodgers 47 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: and Davante Adams. Do you know what the Packers offense 48 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: ranks thirteenth? It's reasonable to assume without Davonte Adams it's 49 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: not quite as dynamic. And if you start looking at 50 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: their schedule this year, they get the Vikings weapons twice. 51 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: The Lions are flawed, but DeAndre Swift, T. J. Hawkinson, him, 52 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: Amron sat Brown pretty DA's offense. They face the Buccaneers 53 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: and Brady's offense. They face the Rams offense, they face 54 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, Carson Wentz and the Washington offense. They face 55 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys offense, they face the Dolphins offense. Fairly high 56 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: powered offenses. So this is one of my criticisms of 57 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Matt lafle Shanahan mcvah and Matt Lafleur would consider sort 58 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: of the three Musketeers. They work in Washington, they all 59 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: go and get head coaching jobs, whereas McVay has created 60 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: stars from lower round draft picks Cooper Cup where he 61 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: is saved o BJ's dying career, where Shanahan has made 62 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: six round picks like Elijah Mitchell or a fifth round 63 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: pick like George Kittle. Stars, Matt Lafleur, inheriting Aaron Jones, 64 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams, David Bakhtiari. Thirteenth ranked offense. What 65 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,799 Speaker 1: is their identity? It's going to be interesting this year. 66 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: The Packers get a lot of go either way games 67 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: at home, but outside of maybe the Bears and the Giants, 68 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: they face a lot of teams that are significantly more 69 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: dynamic with weapons, with more than competent quarterbacks. That's why 70 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they win the division this year. Conversely, 71 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota has every go either way game at home except Buffalo. 72 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: I like the Vikings to win the division. I'm not 73 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: anti Green Bay, but Super Bowl windows do close. We 74 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: saw it with the Seahawks. They close a lot faster 75 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: than people think. We saw it with the forty nine 76 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: Ers in Kaepernick, they close quickly. We saw it with 77 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers and Big Ben about three years sooner than 78 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: anybody predicted. The offensive line went downhill and Ben aged fast. 79 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: I think the Packers window has closed. And Matt Lafleur 80 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: since he's been there McVan shanahan part of that troika. 81 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: They have developed young offensive players who's Lafleur developed. Green 82 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: Bay does not have a number one or a number 83 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: two receiver. They had to go out and get Sammy Watkins, 84 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: go get again Randall cob So. I just think a 85 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: lot of high powered offenses, a lot of good weapons, 86 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: and I don't think Green Bay wins shootouts this year. 87 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers yesterday complaining about the inconsistency of young receivers, well, 88 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: of course he is. He's a Hall of Famer and 89 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: they're twenty two years old. Wide receiver is a timing 90 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: position and Aaron Rodgers is great at it, and rookie 91 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers generally are not. The other quarterback story I 92 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: like is that Kenny Pickett, rookie first round draft pick 93 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: at quarterback, the only one this year, took first team 94 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: reps with the Steelers. So there's four teams in this 95 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: league right now, Carolina, Seattle, the New York Giants, and 96 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: the Steelers where they're splitting reps. And I really have 97 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: nothing against Mitch Drubisky. I think he's probably one of 98 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: the better bridge quarterbacks in the NFL. But I kind 99 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: of feel like, if you're the Steelers, if you look 100 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: at this season, Burrow and Lamar are significantly better than 101 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: any quarterback you have, and Deshaun's probably going to miss 102 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: the season or a majority of it, right, And so 103 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: you're looking thinking to yourself, why not give Pickett sixteen 104 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: starts and figure out right now, if you've got him, 105 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: do you have a guy? Because think about it, you 106 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: can start Trubisky, but you're kind of wasting live bullets 107 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: for Kenny Pickett. And this is the year, let's be honest, 108 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you're catching a break with Cleveland. So by next year, 109 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Deshaun plays, Lamar plays, Burrow plays. Wouldn't you want to 110 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: know going into the season we have the fourth best quarterback? 111 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: Or do you want to go into next season thinking 112 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm not sure you get kind of a break with 113 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: the Cleveland mess this year. I would want to cut 114 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: to the chase. And here's the other thing to consider 115 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: about Kenny Pickett. 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I have 191 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: been asking Mary kay Cabot to join me multiple times 192 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: wherever I've been in my career, and you were in 193 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: the news again this week with the Jimmy g story. 194 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: So there's conflicting reports. And I said today on the 195 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: air or yesterday that I felt like you were kind 196 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 1: of punting on this season if you didn't consider Jimmy G. 197 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: Now you've got multiple offensive line injuries. Jacoby Brissette is 198 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: a bridge quarterback who's completed sixty percent of his throws 199 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: and is an eighty three passer rating in as with 200 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow Lamar and the Steelers, you're punting the season. 201 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: Now you have online injuries. You're perilously thin at wide receiver. 202 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: If Amari Cooper is hurt, this is a rough wide 203 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: receiver unit. It's really thin. So that Ian Rappaport says, 204 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they're really interested, which again feels like 205 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: a punt to me. And I think I think this 206 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: roster's too good to punt on the season, especially with 207 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: the Steelers having kind of a transition at quarterback. So 208 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: what is the latest, Mary Kay on Jimmy G. Well, 209 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: it's not something that is front burner, and I really 210 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: did not present it that way. The way that I 211 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: wrote it last week was that in the event that 212 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is out for the season or is even 213 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: out double digit games, it would be something that they 214 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: would consider and consider is a far cry from actually 215 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: going out and making this happen, but they would have 216 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: to at least have the conversation. It doesn't mean that 217 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: it's front burner. They do believe in Jacoby Brissette. They 218 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: do feel like he can win games for them and 219 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: hold down the fort for as long as he needs to. 220 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: But I do believe that it would at least have 221 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: to come up in conversation, and would come up in 222 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: conversation in the event that you know that Deshaun is 223 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: out for the entire season. And again, it's not something 224 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: they're clamoring for. I've been writing for months and months 225 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: and months that Jimmy g was not somebody that they 226 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: were interested in. They really didn't think that Deshaun would 227 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: be out for very long, you know, six to eight 228 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: games at the most probably, But if that changes, I 229 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: think it's something that, you know, you have to at 230 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: least talk about. But of course they don't want to 231 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: spend a ton of money on this. They're already on 232 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: the hook for a bunch of Baker Mayfield money, so 233 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: it's just not something they're going to invest some draft 234 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: capital or a lot of money in. So Deshaun was rough, 235 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: he was heckled. It's interesting he has now accepted from 236 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: six to eight games, which tells me he'd probably consider 237 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: ten to twelve as long as the fine was lower. 238 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Is your sense there was a story, it may have 239 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: been from you, that Cleveland believes he's going to be 240 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: suspended for the year. Do you think he has some 241 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: wiggle room ten to twelve games, accepting that if maybe 242 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: the fines bigger. The league says, okay, twelve, we want 243 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars back. Do you think he would consider that? 244 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, I would have to think that there are 245 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: negotiations going on right now. I mean, why else would 246 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: it be taking so long to hand down this decision. 247 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: There's not that much. There's no new information. It's really 248 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: just going over the documents and going over the briefs, 249 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: and the only thing at issue here is the suspension 250 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: and or the fine, which they can impose both of 251 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: those things. So I would have to think that they 252 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: are having some back aneled discussions, that nobody's really leaking 253 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: out there right now too much, and that they are 254 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: trying to come up with something that everyone can live 255 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: with so that it doesn't have to end up in 256 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: the courts, and it doesn't have to be more contentious 257 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: and ugly than it already has been. I think one 258 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: of the sort of unintended consequences of the new way 259 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: of doing things under the Personal Conduct Policy is that, 260 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, there became a very public battle between the 261 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: NFL and the NFLPA, and I think it basically, you know, 262 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: it's set the standard for how that's going to go 263 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: in the future, because now they're just going to, you know, 264 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: play out these battles publicly as they move forward. You know, 265 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: Mary kay for a variety of reasons, not simply Jess 266 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, but it was a really toxic last several years. 267 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: Coaches fired, gms fired, and then you bring into Shaun Watson, 268 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: and let's be honest, once again, it's the most toxic 269 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: quarterback situation in the league. And I do wonder there's 270 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: a lot of good guys in this locker room, and 271 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of veterans and a lot of promising careers. 272 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: If you sense a little bit of fatigue of this 273 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of four year toxicity kind of hovering over the franchise, 274 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: I think they thought they were getting out of it 275 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: to some degree, with Baker, it's louder now. I just 276 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: don't pro sports. That's really hard to overcome constant noise. 277 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, you're you're very right about that. I mean, look, 278 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: if you look at this franchise over the last how 279 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: many every years and you think about the Johnny manziel 280 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Era and the Josh Gordon and then the Baker Mayfield, 281 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it really has been one thing after another 282 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: and not a lot of it positive. And you're right, 283 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: this is you know, this is probably the biggest one 284 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: of all of them. And the fan base I can 285 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: tell you is, you know, they're growing tired and weary 286 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: of this. They don't know how to feel about their 287 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: football team a year and you know, so that's really 288 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: really difficult. But in terms of the players, yes, I 289 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: do think that there will be some players where the 290 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: wind will go out of the sales to a certain 291 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: degree in the event that Deshaun is out for the season. 292 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: There are players that came here just to have that 293 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to go to the Super Bowl and to play 294 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: with DeShawn. Jadavian Clowney is one of those players. Joel 295 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: Betonia we talked to him the other day and I 296 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: don't know, I just felt like I saw some signs 297 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: of distress on his face, a little bit that you know, 298 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: oh no, you know, here we go again into another 299 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: controversial situation, and this is going to be tough. So 300 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: I do think that there is some of that going on. 301 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: But however, I will add that I think Kevin Stefanski 302 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: is really good at navigating these turbulent waters. I think 303 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: he's unflappable, he's got ice in his veins, and he's 304 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: really trying to set the tone. But no matter how 305 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: you slice it, this one's difficult. Yeah, I think Stefanski actually, 306 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: I think his demeanor. Listen, Mike Zimmer was intense, and 307 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, he worked very well with Mike Zimmer, and 308 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer was not for everybody. Kirk Cousins struggled, some 309 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: players struggled with Mike Zimmer, and Stefanski was great with him. 310 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: So I do think Andrew Barry also, I don't know Andrew. 311 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: I know people who know him very well, and they 312 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: speak in the same terms high emotional IQ, Stefanski high 313 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: emotional IQ. Realistically, with Jacoby Brissette, the numbers are he's 314 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: an eighty three passer rating quarterback barely two to one 315 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: TV interception ratio. He is what he is, He's a 316 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: backup or a really good bridge. What's a realistic season 317 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: if you if you ask the average Cleveland Brown fan 318 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: or privately Kevin Stefanski, Baltimore and Cincinnati are very good. 319 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: We may not love the Steelers quarterback situation, but Tomlin 320 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: and that roster, it's pretty good. And now they found 321 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: a suit, they found a star receiver, another one in Pittsburgh. 322 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: That's what they do. So what what feels right to 323 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: you this year? You know, it's such a hard question 324 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: to answer when you don't know how many games Deshaun 325 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: Watson is going to be out. That makes it very 326 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: very difficult. If he comes back for the last eight 327 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: or nine games of the season, I still think they 328 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: have a chance. I mean, those are the important games. 329 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: That's when you have to be winning and playing your 330 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: best ball down the stretch. So if he comes back 331 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: for those games, I think it's realistic that they can 332 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: contend for the playoffs. Now, if you're looking at Jacoby 333 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 1: Brissett starting twelve games, fourteen games, then I think you 334 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: know it's another story. Because the quarterbacks, not only in 335 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: the AFC, are so amazing. Now, but the AFC North, 336 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, I mean, the AFC North is so tough, 337 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: and no one can ever write off the Steelers. Mike 338 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: Tomlin has never had a losing season, and their defense 339 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: is so good that no matter who's playing quarterback, they're 340 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: going to reek havocs. So you know, you just can 341 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: never count those guys out either. So yeah, if Jacoby 342 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: plays the whole season, I do think that, you know, 343 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: I think that it's going to be a lot tougher 344 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: to accomplish the goals that they want to, but they 345 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: do have. I think it's going to be a dominant 346 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: defense this year in Cleveland, I really do. And I 347 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: also think obviously they have the running game. They have 348 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: an amazing running game, and you can accomplish a lot 349 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: with those two things, you know, Mary Kays, I look 350 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: at the schedule. The Browns do get, to your point, 351 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: they get a hell of a scheduling break. So in 352 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: the first several weeks, Carolina, Okay, battle line could really 353 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: struggle against the Browns defensive front. Then it's the Jets. 354 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: We don't even know. If Zach Wilson plays or Flacco, 355 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: then it's the Steelers. We may have rookie Kenny Pickett 356 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: on the field. Then it's the Falcons Marcus Mariota. Okay. 357 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: Then you look two weeks later, it's New England where 358 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia's calling offensive plays. It heats up in late October, 359 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: early November. They get Miami at home. Miami's got some push, 360 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: but again that's at home, warm weather Miami, cold weather Cleveland. 361 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: But to your point, it's about week ten then you 362 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: start facing the josh Allen's and Lamars and the Bradies. 363 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: So I think, to your point is I wonder if optimistically, 364 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: like when you cover these guys, I could see Stefanski saying, God, 365 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: if we could just get a ten game suspension, if 366 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: we could get to twelve, and we could be near 367 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: five hundred, because Cleveland faces a lot of young quarterbacks 368 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: and dysfunctional offenses and rebuilding offensive lines. If you know, 369 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: you have to navigate when Baker was there. You were 370 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: very early on this where Stefanski was Baker was wearing 371 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: him out, and you were pretty early on this, like 372 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: they were over him last year about week six, week seven. 373 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: They have to be very supportive of Deshaun Watson. As 374 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: you navigate this story, do you sense stress with Stefanski. 375 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: Do you sense any of that in the building management 376 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: executive Stefanski. I don't, and it's so hard to believe that, 377 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: I know, but he is built for this kind of thing, 378 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: and I think that was one of the reasons why 379 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: they hired him. I mean, he you know, he grew 380 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: up around sports. In fact, I mean Ed Stefanski, who 381 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: is you know, as an NBA executive his entire career. 382 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: There's just something about Kevin Stefanski, even just for his age. 383 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he really is unflappable and he's just a flatliner. 384 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: And I do think that I think he's handling it 385 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: all very well. Usually I can see those signs of 386 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: distress on someone's face, you know, you can. He does 387 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: have a little bit more you know, salt and pepper 388 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: in the beard now, but but for the most part, 389 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: you know, he seems he seems okay to me. I mean, 390 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: he just you know, controls what he can. And I 391 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: think it sets the right tone for the football team 392 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: because most of the players are, you know, buying into 393 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: that party line that you know, we're going to out 394 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: there and we're gonna win games. And you know, a 395 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of coaches would not have been able to handle 396 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: this the way that he has so far. This week's 397 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Gold Medal performance goes to a star NFL quarterback who 398 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: will soon be getting the bag. Lamar Jackson reportedly wants 399 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: the Deshaun Watson fully guaranteed contract, and it's kind of 400 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: hard to disagree with him. He's got his critics, but 401 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: in four years he's thirty seven and twelve All Pro MVP, 402 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: a playoff win. The bottom line, football, unlike baseball, is 403 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: about winning now, not history. Lamar is a winner. 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Well, 420 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: there are a lot of challenges in covering this story. 421 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: There are so many challenges because there are a lot 422 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: of layers to it. You know, you really have to 423 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's a minefield to walk through, it really is. 424 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: And so I think you know, anybody covering it right now, 425 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's basically almost a no win 426 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: situation no matter what you try to say or do. 427 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: And you know how we talk about players having to 428 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: block out the noise when you know, I've had to 429 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: do that for a long time because of you know, 430 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: just Twitter and you know, some Baker stuff and all 431 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So I'm used to that, but 432 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm really having to do it now, just like a 433 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of other people are too, because no matter what 434 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: you tweet, no matter what you write, You're going to 435 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: have a segment of the population that is going to 436 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,239 Speaker 1: come down really, really hard on you. It's difficult in 437 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: many ways, just because you know, just from a standpoint 438 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: of you know, you don't want to not give all 439 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: due respect to the accusers. I mean you really have 440 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: to do that. By the same token, you have to 441 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: try to maintain some type of ability to cover the 442 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: quarterback that is involved in this situation. And so it's 443 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: just it's it's hard all the way around. And and also, 444 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of information is it's hard to 445 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: come by. I mean, we're kind of new to this story. 446 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: There have been people that have covering this, have been 447 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: covering this story out of Hughes for a long long time, 448 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: and then you know, he shows up on the Brown's 449 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: doorstep in March, and you know, you have to try 450 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: to quickly develop relationships and sources and do the best 451 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: you can with it. So it's been challenging from that standpoint, 452 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: But more so than anything, it's been very difficult to 453 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: just to walk that fine line down the middle of 454 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: you know, who's who's going to be, you know, hurt 455 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: or upset by all of this. Does Baker Mayfield still 456 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: have a allies in the city. Yes, I would say so, yeah, 457 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: he does. I mean a lot of people have jumped 458 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: off the bandwagon, but I will tell you we have 459 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: been covering his practices pretty much on a daily basis 460 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: in Carolina for Cleveland dot Com. I mean not in 461 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: person or anything, but you know, we kind of write 462 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: about them each day, and there's some of the most 463 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: well read stories on the site every single day. So 464 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: people still have an appetite for base Mayfield. Part of 465 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: that might be because the Browns are playing him. In 466 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: the opener, were like, how can you how can you 467 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: have a better storyline than that from the from the 468 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield saga. It's it's really kind of uncanny, but 469 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: but yeah, so that's part of it. But yes, there 470 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: are people here that that really still feel for Baker. 471 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Maybe well, I mean, listen two time walk on underdog quality. 472 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland's felt beat up. I think for decades in sports 473 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: by the national media, the reputation, there's a certain symmetry. 474 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: I thought with Baker in Cleveland, I just thought I 475 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: said this early, he was just too snarky. I always 476 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: feel like you can't win the press conference as a quarterback. 477 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: You just have to sometimes fall on the sword. Baker 478 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: always felt like he had to win the press conference, 479 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: and some of that's just he's a young, twenty five 480 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: year old guy. He's a kid, and so part of me, 481 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: I do think he'll win that job in Carolina, and 482 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a bad oldline. So you know what 483 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: I feel bad about Baker, Mary Kay is a lot 484 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: of times in life you get a great opportunity and 485 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: you're not ready for it, and you never get a 486 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: second great one. Lane Kiffen he just wasn't ready for 487 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders in USC, but he's a really smart coach. 488 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: He got a second opportunity in the SEC and he's crushing. 489 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: He's a great coach. Steve Sarkisian wasn't ready for the 490 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: USC job, personal issues. He got a second opportunity. Where 491 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Baker is I'm not sure he's 492 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: ever going to get that offensive line or he's ever 493 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: going to get Nick Chubb. I mean, it was really, 494 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: Mary Kay. It was really built for a quarterback, did 495 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: it was? It was almost the Niners offense. It was 496 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: quarterback friendly, not quarterback centric, And part of me thinks, oh, Baker, 497 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: you had it those kind of offensive lines because he 498 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: didn't make any money. They don't exist. You can't go 499 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: buy a right tackle right right. And the ironic part 500 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: about this whole thing, And I think about this sometimes, 501 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: what would have happened if Baker Mayfield had not asked 502 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: to be traded the day after or the day the 503 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns went down to try to court Deshaun Watson. 504 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: What if he would not have asked to be traded? 505 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Would he be still the starting quarterback of the Cleveland 506 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: Browns right now? You know, I mean there's a world 507 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: in which that's possible, and you know, so, I don't know. 508 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: It's just weird the way that the whole thing worked out, 509 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: because at that point, you know, negotiations opened back up, 510 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: and they opened up those purse strings and they threw 511 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty million dollars guaranteed at Deshaun Watson, 512 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,239 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the team that he had 513 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: supposedly ruled out was his first choice and here he was. 514 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: So I just have to wonder what would have happened well, 515 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: And also listen, easy for me to say, but you know, 516 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: if somebody you feel like somebody lies to you, it's 517 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: like somebody cheats on you, it's hard for people to 518 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: take it back. And he you know, he was told 519 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: you're our guy, and then a couple of weeks later, 520 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: you're not our guy. And for me, I said, suck 521 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: it up. You're never going to get a better old line. 522 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: You're not going to find Nick Chubb, Kevin Stefanski one 523 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: coach of the year. You've got really good tight endplay Baker, 524 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: suck it up and go back to Cleveland. But I 525 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: get it. Did you ever think there was a moment 526 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: that he would suck it up and come back? You know, 527 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: I knew all along, and like you said, I was 528 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of on the disconnect between Baker Mayfield and Kevin 529 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: Stefanski early on, but you know, from October I had 530 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: been hearing that, you know, it just wasn't right between 531 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: those two, and that Baker did not feel comfortable, he 532 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 1: did not feel that he was being used properly. You 533 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: and I have talked about that before on this podcast, 534 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: and so I always felt like like the end was near. 535 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: I just didn't know if it actually would be able 536 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: to be pulled off quite like that. But I do 537 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: think that this would have been the best opportunity for 538 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield to rebuild his career and to get back 539 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: on track and to find something after this year was 540 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: to come back here and try to do something with 541 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: this team in this offense. Cleveland dot Com The Plain Dealer, 542 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: Mary Kay Cabot breaking news. This is what she does. 543 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: It's great seeing you. I love the mood lighting in 544 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: this sort of lounge space. If your husband walked in 545 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: there and you had a cocktail, I'd be like, yes, 546 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: that's where you're going out tonight. Yeah. Well I'm still 547 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: at work. I'm here at the Browns Studio and I'm 548 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: just doing the best I can with the atmosphere. So 549 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: thank you. You've got Mary Kay, Thank you so much. 550 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Take here all right. The Volume. Make sure to check 551 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: out the dram On Green Show. 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