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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Coy and today we have very special

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Speaker 1: guest reality star mister Rays in the Building.

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Speaker 2: Star og Media Moguls is in the building.

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Speaker 3: Man of many titles and many jobs. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And that's kind of how the industry is, right.

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Speaker 3: That's how LA is. You can't just be a one

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Speaker 3: trick The rent is always do. You got to be

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Speaker 3: able to make it move when when jobs ain't moving.

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Speaker 1: And if you're a millennial, you've been through so many

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Speaker 1: shockwaves from like you know, COVID, the writers strike. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's just there's always something. You know, before that there

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Speaker 1: was the Alway crash of real estate. So now you

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Speaker 1: just you know, you have to have multiple jobs.

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Speaker 3: We have to be able to adapt and improvise and overcome.

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Speaker 3: Like when I was doing reality television, then COVID came

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Speaker 3: and nobody was swimming anything. So I went to grad school,

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Speaker 3: got my master's and I wrote a book that ended

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Speaker 3: up being a bestseller on Amazon. Uh. Then when the

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Speaker 3: writer strike happened, there was no more TV happening again.

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Speaker 3: So I went and learned how to be a producer,

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Speaker 3: so cause there were still projects being produced, but there

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Speaker 3: was no actors acting. So I was able to learn

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Speaker 3: how to be a talent producer and learn the you know,

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Speaker 3: the inner workings of how to warn a production thanks

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Speaker 3: to Hellionaire Productions. Shout out to Jamie. And then even

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Speaker 3: when things got back to normal, I decided I wanted

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Speaker 3: to work in the community and do stuff, you know,

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Speaker 3: help give back and help some Los Angeles students go

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Speaker 3: to school so they can have the same kind of

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Speaker 3: HBCU experience that I had. So I've been working with

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Speaker 3: United Negro College Fund and the Black College Expo and

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Speaker 3: just I just God has blessed me to be multi

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Speaker 3: talented and be able to exist in a lot of spaces.

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Speaker 1: Since we talking about a lot of spaces. Yes, don't

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Speaker 1: you tell me what you're gonna feed me. I am starving, guys.

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Speaker 1: It is lunchtime over here, so I will be eating

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Speaker 1: the full dish and the little crumbs.

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Speaker 2: So what are you gonna have me eating today?

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna make mister Ray's tacos. Since we're in

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Speaker 3: LA and everybody eats healthy out here, We're gonna use

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Speaker 3: checking oh excuse, We're gonna use turkey meat. We're trying

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Speaker 3: to eat healthy, eat right for our blood type out here.

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Speaker 3: So we used turkey. I got some secret ingredients. We

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Speaker 3: got our tomatoes, our onions, our cheese, our lettuce, our sauca.

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Speaker 3: This is a special hot sausa. If you have sinuses,

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Speaker 3: this will clear you out. Okay, in both ways, I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm scared that what are your secret ingredients?

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Speaker 2: Come on?

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Speaker 3: So anywhile broke in college, I ate on a budget,

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Speaker 3: but I came from very humble beginnings. But I still

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Speaker 3: ate well. And then of course when you get to college,

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Speaker 3: my dad was like, okay, you on your own. You

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Speaker 3: need to get you a job or you know, work

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Speaker 3: on campus, get some extra money because we're paying for

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Speaker 3: you to be in school. So I wanted to eat

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Speaker 3: how I ate it home, So I had to improvise

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Speaker 3: with a couple of things. So there was a top

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Speaker 3: China carry out right near us. There was the grocery

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Speaker 3: store right near of food. It was called food Line

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Speaker 3: in Virginia shout out to Virginia State University. So I

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Speaker 3: would go get the meat, the tacos. We would watch

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Speaker 3: Park and I would make tacos for us to eat

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Speaker 3: and then we would go back to schools. Back then,

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Speaker 3: in college, I was the mascot, so we had band practice,

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Speaker 3: like that. So we would eat tacos, watch one O

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Speaker 3: this was my version of a gourmet taco. Well, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: so I use soy sauce. I know it sounds crazy,

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Speaker 3: but I had so many soy sauce packets from eating

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Speaker 3: Chinese food to go in college. I used to use

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Speaker 3: it as a seasoning because I was like, it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, So my hands are clean.

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Speaker 2: Go for it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're not gonna end up touch the meat a

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Speaker 3: lot though, right, No, I'm not touching that I've seen.

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Speaker 1: It's actually put their hands on the meat and then

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Speaker 3: Those are the same people who probably don't know the

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Speaker 3: So you know, chicken cooks, turkey and chicken, all those

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Speaker 2: So you don't need the oil, right because it's I

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Speaker 2: guess it has its own fat.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna use a little bit of oil, not a lot,

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Speaker 3: just a drop, because it's yeah, it's a little bit

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Speaker 3: on that side, that's a lot, right, Well, you gotta

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Speaker 3: get it cooking. Now, we don't see I'm judging.

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a I'm a side side host.

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Speaker 3: I want to see when the soy sauce.

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Speaker 2: When when the soy sauce enters the pan? So he

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Speaker 2: got the Okay, I'll narrate. So, Okay, he's he's brown

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Speaker 2: in the meat taco seasoning.

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Speaker 3: See, when you're not using beef and you're using like

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Speaker 3: turkey stuff like that, you really have to season your meat.

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Speaker 2: And we like good meat, right, a whole packet. We

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Speaker 2: learned on one episode that we're not supposed to use

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Speaker 3: Some chef I'm from I'm from Virginia. We cook, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we seasoned, we cooked, We brown our meat. Make sure

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Speaker 3: it tastes great. It's supposed to be a party in

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Speaker 3: your mouth. Yeah, exactly like that. Good all right.

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Speaker 1: So take me back to what was going on in

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Speaker 1: the tackle making days.

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Speaker 3: So in Virginia State University, I was in school. I

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Speaker 3: was a mass calm major. I'm just using a little

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Speaker 3: bit of a little onion powdered.

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Speaker 1: Little onion powder after he added the entire taco seasoning.

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Speaker 2: Packet Italian power. Are you gonna add garlic powder?

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Speaker 3: No, we ain't doing all that now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I feel like those two are married for life.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, college was a great time. It was the

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Speaker 3: best four years of my life. Figured out who I was,

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Speaker 3: came and started living in my truth. I think that's

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Speaker 3: where mister Ray was developed. Know. I grew up in

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Speaker 3: a pretty conservative family. You know, I'm the young this

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Speaker 3: best friends. My grandmother and I are best friends. I

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Speaker 3: grew up in Virginia with my father and my mother

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Speaker 3: was actually here in California. So every summer, every summer,

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Speaker 3: fall break, Christmas break, spring break, I was out here.

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Speaker 2: So wait a minute, So your dad raised you by himself.

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Speaker 3: I have a stepmother as well. Yeah, yeah, I have

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Speaker 3: ain't new to La. I been here. I'm a co native,

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Speaker 3: uh since nineteen You're the youngest, I'm the baby, I'm

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Speaker 3: my mom's only Oh, my dad has other children. I

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Speaker 2: Siblings, but you're the youngest.

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Speaker 3: I'm the baby of all.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm.

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Speaker 3: Guessing they separated.

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Speaker 3: Separated, and then my father remarried, and my mother moved

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Speaker 2: Oh he's at in the soil, a little bit of

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Speaker 3: Now, this is the college hookup we had used to

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Speaker 2: They gonna see this.

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Speaker 3: Man. I hope it's delicious. It's amazing. It is amazing.

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Speaker 2: That much.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. I hate dry meat.

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Speaker 3: I just caught that. But No, in college, we were

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Speaker 3: And because my grandmother retired from Compton High School, she

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Speaker 1: So you said that in college you discover your true self.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I grew up in the era of

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Speaker 3: doesn't already know about good, bad, embarrassing, whatever. We talk

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Speaker 3: It was a little feisty about it, and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: what do you matter. What do you care? This is

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Speaker 2: Were they mad because you said it on national television?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they had to deal with You know again,

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Speaker 3: I came from I was from Virginia, so everybody knew everybody.

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Speaker 3: So it was It's not that it was a secret either,

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Speaker 3: shocked at all. I don't ever, You're not gonna make

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Speaker 3: it started late. I started thirty seven. Well, see, this

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Speaker 3: My nieces and nephews are my kids. Yeah, I'll trust me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sell you on that responsibility. So what

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Speaker 3: Are we? So we're gonna get a taco?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I gonna I'm gonna get two.

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Speaker 2: To it's not at all.

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Speaker 3: I told you it's good right, It's the meat. It

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Speaker 2: Other one, thank you? Okay, So we just freak stout

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Speaker 3: Let it melk. Let me taste the meat.

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Speaker 3: No, that was the that was my secret ingredient. But

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Speaker 2: Let me just tell you something, guys, the soy sauce

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Speaker 3: I told you the.

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Speaker 2: Secret ingredient isn't a secret ingredient anymore.

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Speaker 3: Right, the world now knows that mister Ray's the hot.

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Speaker 2: Sauce with me taco the soy sauce.

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Speaker 3: I say, a hot sauce. Oh no, we haven't got

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like, yeah, someone's house right now.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we're sitting like you comfortable here. I'm

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Speaker 3: very comfortable to add sour cream to this. You know what,

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Speaker 3: I don't mind salt so like. I do have friends

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Speaker 3: It comes it's so hot tall so oh my god.

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Speaker 3: You put a lot in Chicago and this place called

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Speaker 3: And then, oh my god, it's amazing. Dad. It don't

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Speaker 2: That's so Jesus.

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm hungry, guys. I know you want to hear.

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Speaker 3: The story, but hung I want to see how you

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Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna like it. I'm gonna I'm enjoy

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Speaker 3: M mm hmmm the meat alone, me have the golk cup.

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Speaker 3: It's the green. Oh no, it wasn't the green like

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. You killed it on the meat.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that the best taco meat I've ever had. Oh

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Speaker 3: my goodness, thank you. See I'm in my cooking era.

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Speaker 3: I'm in my traveling era. I'm trying to get engaged. Era.

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Speaker 3: Chased the green. It's a kick to it.

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Speaker 2: Who you know what? I like it.

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Speaker 3: That's flavor. It's hot, but it has a flavor to it.

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Speaker 3: But just put a little dabs on it.

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Speaker 3: We don't want any Ecco cameratersbody to eat.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna eat for a second, and I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: But this is why everybody came over to my apartment.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys were back. Sorry. The food was so

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Speaker 2: We was really hungry, and I ate.

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Speaker 1: But it actually makes it a lot more softer and

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Speaker 3: Your notes will be so clear. If not afternoon delicious tacos.

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Speaker 1: So now that we have the tacos out the way,

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Speaker 2: Sorry guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, so you do your first reality show, BT

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Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, we have the footage. It's airing next week.

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Speaker 3: Like back then? Because we were the first black reality

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Speaker 1: And then when they say it will take care of you,

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Speaker 2: And during all of this going on.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so after that whole experience, what was your

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Speaker 3: I went to work at Beet in the corporate communications department.

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Speaker 3: money involved. Back then, I was getting paid as talent

437
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: after work, getting paid as an employee during the day.

438
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 3: Then who I've done so many things from b ET.

439
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: I went and actually worked with my father. My father

440
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: retired from Amtrak in DC. A lot of people don't

441
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 3: know this, and I was living in DC. Nobody knew

442
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 3: what I was doing because you know, I had, you know,

443
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 3: working on the train and working at Amtrak. You can't

444
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: It's in our union guideline that you can't post yourself

445
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 3: and post you know, train business. Yes, so I mean

446
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 3: some people who occasional would post themselves in a uniform.

447
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 3: I personally was not trying to post myself in a uniform.

448
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 3: I didn't want to draw a lot of attention that

449
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: I was, you know, in DC and working. But people

450
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,239
Speaker 3: knew that I had a government related job. So I

451
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 3: did that. And while I did that, I worked out

452
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 3: of New York at WeTV as well, So I was

453
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 3: just digital hosts and correspondence so the Braxton Family Values,

454
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 3: swv LA Hair, all those shows. I was like the

455
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 3: wee TV Andy Coo when I interviewed everybody. I did

456
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: the digital reunions, I hosted the award shows. I was

457
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 3: execut produce all of those things. I edited most of

458
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: those things. We TV paid very well because did you

459
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: have to pitch yourself for that or did they just

460
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 3: reach out to me. I was in a bar and

461
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: I met this lady that she was over listening. She

462
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: was listening to my conversation. I was talking about the

463
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 3: Braxton Show, the Braxton Family Values, and she kept laughing

464
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 3: and like button in my conversation. She was like, you

465
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: are so funny. Here's my car. Can you call me

466
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: on Monday? So I looked at the car and I

467
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 3: said we TV. I was just like we TV. So

468
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 3: I called my sister. She was like call them people,

469
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 3: see what they talking about. And it was like she's like,

470
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: I'm the head of original programming and in digital marketing,

471
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 3: and she said, and I would love to have you

472
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: like commentate. All of our shows will pay you, you know,

473
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: per episode, will bring you up to New York. I said,

474
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm work the trade for free girl. So I was hustling.

475
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: I was working. When I was free, I was doing

476
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 3: we TV and it was great money. It was a

477
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 3: good time. I got to meet some of everybody, and

478
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: that's how befriended my gird girlfriend, Tracy Braxon, who unfortunate

479
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 3: is no longer here with us. But I got to

480
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: work with my childhood icons s WV. They had a show,

481
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: so it was just it was a good time. So

482
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: I was being professional, had a corporate nine to five

483
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: with benefits, and then I was still pursuing my passion,

484
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: and that's all my dad wanted me to do. Pursue

485
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: my passion. But make sure you got some savings, make

486
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 3: sure you got benefits, because you know, as we get older,

487
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 3: we get sick. You know, I never would have thought

488
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 3: COVID would have happened back then, but like, I'm glad

489
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 3: I have health insurance. At what point did you quit Amtrak?

490
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: When I got the call to come and do love

491
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: and hip hop Hollywood, so I was already I came

492
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: out here to visit my mother. My mother was having

493
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: some personal things going on, and I wanted to be

494
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: out here just to be of support for her, and

495
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: she was having she had something was going wrong with

496
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 3: her heart and she had to have a surgery, and

497
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 3: I wanted to come out here just be near her.

498
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: And I started thinking about it. I was like, you know,

499
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: I've been doing this sweet TV stuff. It's going really well.

500
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: I make just as much money there as I do

501
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: it Amtrak. Maybe it's time for me to yeah, oh

502
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: shoot it. I love that you kept a hustle.

503
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah going, So then you.

504
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: You entertained quitting, right, So walk me through that.

505
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: My boss found out that I was in l A,

506
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: not that I was found out. I took a leave

507
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 3: of absence. My boss called me and said, you need

508
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: to report to work tomorrow morning. At eleven am. I

509
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: was sitting in Studio City at Cafe Rue smoking a hookah.

510
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: It was like six o'clock. I will never forget this day.

511
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: I said, I'm in Los Angeles. I would have to

512
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: fly back, get a flight, fly back to where I lived,

513
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: and then get to DC. They said, if you can't

514
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: be here, we're riding you up. And you were on

515
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 3: a leaf I was leaving. I was, I was. I

516
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 3: took like a thirty day leave absence to be here

517
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: with my mother. This was like the twenty ninth day,

518
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: Like thirtieth. Going into the thirtieth, I said, you know what,

519
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 3: it was like, I will ever forget y'all. It was

520
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 3: like Halloween. I was like day before Halloween. I was like,

521
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 3: fuck this job. I called my UNI rap I said,

522
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 3: I quit. I ain't coming. I quit.

523
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: Now. Did you think you were reacting on emotion or

524
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: you were just I.

525
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: Was already fed up with that situation working at Amtrak.

526
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 3: I think Amtrak is an awesome company. Unfortunately, the people

527
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: that they had in management I thought were idiots. They

528
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: were there was a that's nice, they don't watch this interview. Okay,

529
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: most of them fired for their idiotisms. You said they

530
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: have been fired. Yes, you keeping up with the current events. Yeah,

531
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: I still because I still friends with the people that

532
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: I came in with and I worked the railroad. I

533
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: just was at a point in my life where I

534
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: was like fuck that, Like, no, you're not gonna talk

535
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: to me like that, and then you're not FNNA. It

536
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: was just a hostile work environment across the board for

537
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 3: everybody from upper management to us, and I was just like,

538
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: you know what, fuck this. I'm about to be on

539
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: love and hip hop yeah and the table. Yes, I

540
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: was like I was already thinking about because I was

541
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: trying to transfer to LA and they were making it

542
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 3: difficult for me to transfer. I was trying to keep

543
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: my job and come to LA and do the same thing,

544
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: because what I do outside of work shouldn't it doesn't

545
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: affect No.

546
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: But I am definitely curious. What were you doing for Amtrak?

547
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 3: I was in customer service, so I was basically like

548
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 3: the one board customer service manager. You would say, so no, no, no,

549
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 3: So I would actually be on the trains. I was

550
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 3: in charge of the dining car cruise.

551
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, ride Amtrak. I don't know if I had.

552
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: I worked at the long distance Trains. My regular train

553
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 3: went from DC to Chicago. So I would leave on

554
00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 3: a Friday, be there Saturday morning, leave Chicago that after noon,

555
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: be back to DC Saturday Sunday morning. So yeah, n trains,

556
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 3: so you wouldn't even know I was gone. I would

557
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: leave Friday and be back Sunday for brunch like nothing happened,

558
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 3: you know. So that's my friends. I always joking me,

559
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: like you don't want to have a job, like you're

560
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: always at an event still, And I was like, because

561
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 3: the way I work, Wow, we work three on three

562
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: days on you still track?

563
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: No, I want to try am track.

564
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: I think after that last phone call I had with

565
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: them over the track, they don't want to hear from

566
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: Meuse that.

567
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: The last time you were was that the last time

568
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: you were actually on the Amtrak train?

569
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: Oh No, I got back on the train road the

570
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: train plenty of times after. What they gonna do to me?

571
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: How much is an Amtrak ticket?

572
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: It depends where you're going. So like if you take

573
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: the exceler that's more of the high speed and that's

574
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: the more expensive ticket, so you can get from DC

575
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: to New York in like three hours. But if you

576
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: take a regional train that's like more of the old

577
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: school cars that you see in movies and stuff, that

578
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: could be like a five six hour train.

579
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 2: Which one is the nice one? Don't they have like rooms?

580
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: Excel? Oh that's the sleeper cars. The sleeper see the

581
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: sleeper cars and they have deluxe rooms. Get me saying

582
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: this stuff like I.

583
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so yeah, google your Amtrak.

584
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: I am a railroad baby, though I'm a proud third

585
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,239
Speaker 3: generation railroad baby. My grandfather worked on the railroad. My

586
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: father was a conductor on the railway. He was there

587
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: forty two years, like conductor as he drove it. Well,

588
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: no conductor, he was in charge of the train. So

589
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 3: the engineer drives the trade. But my dad he also

590
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 3: started the human rights and diversity department for Amtrak, and

591
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: I think that and that was after I came out

592
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 3: on television, So I think by our situation helped him

593
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: see things differently and able to share with other employees

594
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: across the country how you can deal with diversity in

595
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: the workplace because he was dealing with it in his home.

596
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: Nice.

597
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: Okay, so you get the love and hip hop offer.

598
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we ain't trying to promote amtrack just so you

599
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: guys knows the show. But anyway, so you get the

600
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: love and hip hop offer, You're like, f the day job.

601
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: Peace.

602
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: You tell your dad right away. Oh, I was excited

603
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: to call me. I was. He already knew I was.

604
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 3: My dad knows me, and I'm gonna tell you where

605
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: to go and how you can get there. When I

606
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: get to that point and I was like, Daddy, i

607
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: quit amstrak And I was like, damn, damn them, I'm

608
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: done with it. I'm about to be on this show

609
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: and whatever I need to do to do to make

610
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: it work. I'm gonna make it work.

611
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: And what did he say?

612
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: He was like, you grown, okay, cool, He wasn't mad.

613
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: He already saw things that I was experiencing because I

614
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: wasn't rare. We call them railroad babies. They felt I

615
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: was getting special treatment, I implied for those jobs I

616
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: interviewed for those jobs. I was qualified for those jobs.

617
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: And because my father was such a big name at

618
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: the company, I often got heat for that or they

619
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: felt I wasn't deserving of it, but they would still

620
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: want me to train the people there was less qualified

621
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: to do the job. Okay, So what did your mom

622
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: think about you staying? She was happy? I don't think

623
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: she was happy. What I think my mother was more so,

624
00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 3: Oh you're doing TV again? Like this again? Like you know,

625
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: my mom is a is a very studious person, so

626
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: she want to you know, she's in the medical field.

627
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: So TV and people being in your business and being

628
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: out and around a bunch of people, that's not my mother.

629
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: She's a total opposite. My dad is me. We're socialites,

630
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: like to be everywhere, busybodies. That is not my mother.

631
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: So she was like, none of that sounds interesting to me.

632
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: But if you want to do it. Okay, Love and

633
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: Hip Hop wasn't my best chapter, but it definitely reintroduced

634
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: me to people ten years later.

635
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta ask, is Love and Hip Hop scripted?

636
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: I think certain cities and I think certain scenes are

637
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: I think. Let me not say, I think. I can

638
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 3: only say I think about other franchises. I can only

639
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 3: speak for Hollywood, and I feel like with Hollywood and

640
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 3: now I feel like I know with Hollywood there was

641
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: truth in every scene, but everything was exaggerated. Yeah, a

642
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: lot of surprises though, but stuff you would expect, you know.

643
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: So okay, so what's the day in the life when

644
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: you're shooting like a Love and Hip Hop?

645
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 3: So the best part for me because I was only

646
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: get guy on the cast. Well, no, it was others,

647
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: but I was the one that got glambed. So they

648
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 3: would come to the house, they would do your makeup,

649
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: cut your hair.

650
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: Only, Oh, you're the only guy that got glam Yeah,

651
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: I don't think.

652
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: I don't think the other gentleman got glam like that,

653
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: not that I know of the haircut, get your face

654
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: done up because I'm like, want be on TV TV.

655
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: Then they pick you up an SUV take you to

656
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: the scene. I this is in a contrary to what

657
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: people say, Oh they get you drunk, they don't get

658
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: you drunk. I asked for drinks, like if I got

659
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 3: to be in here with these people talking about I

660
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 3: don't know what we've about to talk about. I don't

661
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: know who about to pop up. I don't know what's

662
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: about to pop off. Let me at least be relaxed.

663
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: Let me let me hit my little pan right quick.

664
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: Let me get it. Let me get like folk shots

665
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 3: and Hennessy so I can be relaxed. You know, they

666
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: never bent your arm to make you do so when

667
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: people say they make you drink, they give you the

668
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: option enjoy it. Yeah, we enjoy it. Yeah, you got

669
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: a light liquor option at the dark liquor option, whichever won,

670
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: because at end of the day, were all over twenty

671
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: one where adults were grown. If you don't want to drink,

672
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: you don't drink.

673
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: Now do you ever put parameters on like who you

674
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: will and won't pay.

675
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: With once you get to be in the senior position

676
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: on the show? So I did it for three seasons.

677
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: So by the time my third season rolled around, I

678
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: could say that I'm gonna feel comfortable with X, Y

679
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: and Z and then they'll try to rework it and

680
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 3: rearrange it. But honestly, but don't they love those scenes

681
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 3: the most. They love them. But I can tell you

682
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: that it was difficult for Love and hip Hop because

683
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: my first two seasons we were produced by one production company.

684
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 3: My third season, which was the last season of Loving

685
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: hip Hop, we had a whole brand new production company.

686
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: We shot for ten months. So these are brand new

687
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: people who don't know us, They don't know who got

688
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: beef for who, they don't know anybody's backstory, who they

689
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: might have been beefing with last year, but they're cool

690
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: with this year, or they were cool last year, they

691
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: not cool this year.

692
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: A long time.

693
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: It was because it was a brand new cat. It

694
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 3: was a brand new production company. Oh my god. They

695
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: were trying to figure out different ways to shoot because

696
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: even the style and which way the way that we

697
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: shot was different. Like we went through three different green

698
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: screen looks that season. The lighting was off so we

699
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: had to redo it again, or this had they were

700
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: adding cast members in and things were just coming up

701
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 3: on the blogs and we had to like go back

702
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: and redo things. And when I said redo things like

703
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 3: we back then would shoot a scene and something would

704
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: go down, and we would go online texting and tweeting them,

705
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, this just happened. They tried it, and

706
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, blah blah blah, and that was that night.

707
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 3: Would go on and on back and forth online and

708
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: then they'll be like, hey, we need to capture that.

709
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: We need to do another scene, and you recap what

710
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: happened that night after you finished it filming, talk to

711
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: them about what happened and what y'all were talking about.

712
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: So you gotta go back in that moment again. I

713
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: don't miss it.

714
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: You don't know.

715
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: That wasn't the best chapter of my life. I didn't

716
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: like necessarily my edit, and it's nothing that I can

717
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: say that I did wrong, And they didn't make me

718
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: look a certain way. I just didn't like the lack

719
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 3: of what they showed. They only showed me. They wanted

720
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 3: to make me the confrontational gay character that argue with

721
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: all the other gay characters and only got in women's business. Well,

722
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: our show is eighty percent women. I'm the gay guy.

723
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: I'm friends with the women. So if they're talking to

724
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: me about it on an off camera. I'm gonna talk

725
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: about it. It just was. It was stressful. I got anxiety.

726
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: I have alopecia. My hair fell out while we were filming,

727
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 3: so one part of the season I looked like mister Egghead.

728
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: I had no eyebrows, no bear, no hair. I'm like,

729
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: of all the shows, I'm on, Lord, why would my

730
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: hair fall out while were filming this? And you know

731
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't love to hip hop have

732
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: different demons within them. And dealing with people's energies and

733
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: their demons, and dealing with your own demons, it gets

734
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: to be a lot because you know, we can't at

735
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 3: the time, we can't say what's real, what's not. It's exaggerated,

736
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: what we talked about, what we really don't care about.

737
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: You know, we have to stay in character and promote

738
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: the show cause we need the ratings so we can

739
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 3: get paid, so we can come back and do another season.

740
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 3: And you just get in that cycle of just being

741
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: in character, and it bleeds over to your real life.

742
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 3: I've lost relationships, I've lost some friends. I got into

743
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: it with some relatives over things, just from the frustration

744
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: anxiety of coming from out of that space ten months

745
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: is a long time.

746
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that was ten months for one s one

747
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: particular sea.

748
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 3: That was one particular season. But most of the time

749
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 3: we filmed six to seven months.

750
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: Geez. And then we're during when you're off season, what

751
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: are you doing?

752
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 3: You really only off from Thanksgiving to the top of

753
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 3: the year because at that point you're waiting for your

754
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: renewal notice. So you wrapped, You've done the reunion, all

755
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: that's airing. It's like when we wrap, we're st we

756
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: pretty much when the show premieres, we're still filming, and

757
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 3: then the reunion raps about. It was always in the fall,

758
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: so from Thanksgiving, I remember always going home to Virginia

759
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: f cause I needed to just air my spirit out.

760
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 3: I will be home from Thanksgiving to Christmas or maybe

761
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: New Year's. Around Christmas time, they'll start calling you like, hey,

762
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: what's going on? Who are you talking to? Have you

763
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: seen this online? January we would get our pick up notices.

764
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 3: That's when you gotta go through your contract and negotiate

765
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: your pay and we be filming by March, so you

766
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: were it was a quick turnaround.

767
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: Now are they paying enough to like where you don't

768
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: need any other side hustles or anything.

769
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: Everybody's salary varies on Love and Hip Hop. Some people

770
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: come in and making bare minimum. Some people come in

771
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: making because of who they are and their name, They're

772
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: making super high. Someone like a Ray J and a

773
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: Kay Michelle, They're doing great. I was a new cast member.

774
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 3: I came on with Keisha Cole and Brooke Valentine. I

775
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: always say season four was the best season outside of

776
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: the first season. But I came on I was already

777
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 3: doing WE TV, and I already had a name, and

778
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 3: I was already had a following from Love and Hip Hop.

779
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 3: So Rape, my episodic Rape, was way different from what

780
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: I heard some other people who came on with me,

781
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: they were new as well, And then it depends on

782
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: who your lawyer is. You got to negotiate.

783
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so, but you didn't have any of

784
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: the side gigs outside of.

785
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: Love and Hip Hop. I overlapped. I did WE TV

786
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 3: for the first two seasons as well with Love and

787
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: Hip Hops. It benefited them, and it benefited the shows

788
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 3: getting I mean, who else was getting promoted on two

789
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: networks like that.

790
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: And it's a smart move for week Yeah, it was great.

791
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: It was awesome. My last season, I just did strictly

792
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: Love and Hip Hop because I mean it was very

793
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: time consumer.

794
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: Because you are between two different cities right for WEE TV,

795
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: and I was.

796
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: Still doing my stuff out of New York and then

797
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: filming out here, and then I actually did a digital

798
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 3: talk show for we TV while we were filming Love

799
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: and Hip Hop. So I was filming in Santa Monica

800
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: then going wherever they had us filming for the show.

801
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: It was a lot. And then COVID came and I

802
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: finally got to sit my ass down.

803
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: And that's when you started writing.

804
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: Right started writing, I had, I think it was doing

805
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: the show and dealing with the different adversities that I

806
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: had to deal with on the show. Because as you

807
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 3: can see, I'm a very friendly person. I'm my energy

808
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 3: is amazing, but on the show, I had to be

809
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 3: confrontational to secure my spot. I had to speak on

810
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: things that I really didn't care about. I had to,

811
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: you know, be in competition with people that I normally

812
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: would never even deal with or be around. You know.

813
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: So once I only got to sit down and just

814
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: relax and just get my life together and figure out

815
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: what I was gonna do next. COVID was in full swing.

816
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: So I was like, I'm gonna get my master's. I

817
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: have one, always wanted to go back get. I'm the

818
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: minimum degree in my family right now. Most people in

819
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 3: my family have two or three degrees. I was sitting

820
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: on that one and I was like, Okay, I can

821
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: go to school. Let me. It's all remote. Everything's remote

822
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: during COVID. I'm gonna get my master's in media management.

823
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: That's what I have been doing. And then I wrote

824
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: a book about my life. I mean, just me being

825
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: from Virginia moving to Hollywood, being the first black gay

826
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 3: reality start on beet for the first ever black reality series,

827
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 3: like that will always be my calling card. I love it.

828
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: I'm proud of it. Now I understand it. Just back then,

829
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: I did not understand what it meant to be a

830
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 3: voice for a community that I didn't identify with yet.

831
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was that was gonna be my next question.

832
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: So back when it first happened, how did it hit?

833
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: It was so fast, Like did you go through any

834
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: type of depression or.

835
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: No? Back then we had MySpace and black players, So

836
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: my inbox was full because back then it was just

837
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: Corambo and I were the first two. It was just

838
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: us he was on MTV. I was on BET. We

839
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: was having fun. I had fun. So I lived. That's

840
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: another book, but no, I've lived and I had a

841
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: great time. I went to all the Black Prides. I

842
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: was able to go to high schools. I did the

843
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: BT wrap It Up campaign, from all the HIV STD awareness.

844
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: I got to meet so many people at such a

845
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 3: young age. I did so many different things, from on camera,

846
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 3: behind the camera, working at BT, working with e TV,

847
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: like I've mastered my meeting.

848
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: And then, what was your original major? I'm sorry, so

849
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: your original major was public relations? No matter what you

850
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: were going to end up in entertainment.

851
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: I felt it because I was on the radio when

852
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 3: I was in my senior year of college. I was

853
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: on Power ninety two. It was the afternoon drive co host. Okay,

854
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 3: so I felt it. I always knew something was gonna happen.

855
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure everyone in your family also didn't weren't

856
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: surprised at all.

857
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: I don't think they were, some of them, LA, I know,

858
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: how did you not know? I mean, come on, I

859
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 3: could look at all pictures of me with my hand

860
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: on my hip, like, come.

861
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: On, no, I'm talking about you being in entertainment though.

862
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 3: I was a character. My family would definitely tell you

863
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: I was a colorful character, always did my own thing

864
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: and was always getting into something. You know, I've definitely

865
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: matured since then, but Little Ray was something okay, okay.

866
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: And so now after the pandemic, you you write the book,

867
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: You write the book during the pandemic. How hard was

868
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: it to put it out? What was those steps? Looking?

869
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: Like? I did it through Amazon. I had a publisher

870
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: help me, but we did it through Amazon, and it

871
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: ended up being number one for six consecutive weeks on

872
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: four different like Amazon book charts, E book and physical

873
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 3: book Like I had a number one best seller out

874
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: the gate and mind you, this is no love and

875
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 3: hip hop. We're in COVID. Nothing's going on. My book

876
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: stayed on the Amazon bestseller list for almost a year

877
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 3: and a half.

878
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: And then what was the ch Like, how did you

879
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: I wanted monthly? Yeah, you get paid monthly, but I

880
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: want to know the whole experience of like you put

881
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: you take a chance on yourself, you get this book.

882
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: I didn't think anybody was gonna read it because I'm like,

883
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: I'm not one of those overly large reality stars like

884
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 3: I don't even consider myself a reality star. I was

885
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: on two very popular reality shows, one in which I

886
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: was a main character and the other I was a

887
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 3: co character. But I was a part of two different

888
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: eras of two different types of shows that were monumental.

889
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: And I always say, if I go back on television,

890
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: it has to be bigger than what the last thing

891
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: I did was. And I was like, you know, I'm

892
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: not out here wild on the blogs doing all that craziness.

893
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: They're not gonna want to read my story. And they did.

894
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: They read my story. I talked about everything. I talked

895
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: about my party boy days. I talked about the days

896
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 3: where you are in LA and you don't know what

897
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: the next gig is and you don't know how your

898
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: rent's going to get paid until you get something stable,

899
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: and then you know. You see your friends around you.

900
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 3: Some of them are elevating and some of them are declining.

901
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: That's that's I think one of the trickiest.

902
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: Waters to battle.

903
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: I think it's seeming like some people go and maybe

904
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: they're not even friends, because I think friends are more

905
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: happy for Yeah, when you see someone and you don't

906
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: really know their story or the intricacies of it, and

907
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: you're like, Wow, this person's past me and I'm still

908
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: trucking along. What like they just woke up, you know.

909
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's a hard battle, especially if you've

910
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: been it for a long time.

911
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, and my family is really a huge part of

912
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 3: my life. You follow me on any of my socials,

913
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: I'm always talking about my family, Dad, my mother, nieces, nephew, sisters, cousins, grandparents.

914
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: And I never allowed myself to wild out to get popular.

915
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: I never wanted to do anything where my family would

916
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: be embarrassed. I never did anything where I would hate

917
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 3: for my nieces or nephews a google on their path

918
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: and be like, oh, this is my uncle looking at

919
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: you know. I'm always self conscious of the projects I

920
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 3: do and the things I participate with because I know

921
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 3: I got other people looking at me. That's important to me.

922
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 3: I don't worry about what the stranger says. My family

923
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: is watching me. I want them to be able to

924
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: promote me and them to be proud of me, you know.

925
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: So that I feel like that kept me from doing

926
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: a lot of things a lot of other people were

927
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 3: doing to go viral and be popular and be out there.

928
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: But I don't see them now.

929
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 2: So it's going back to the book.

930
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 3: You produce the book.

931
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: Look at us, we're trying to pick at it.

932
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 3: Where's the tackle shells? Keep the back.

933
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: So you produce the book, it becomes a bestseller. Are

934
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: you shocked at like how much money you're making taking

935
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: a chance on yourself.

936
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 3: That book really surprised me. No, it was just crazy

937
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: because the hot sauce too. But the most amazing thing

938
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: was that I was I learned a lesson. I was

939
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: always I was doubting myself at that time. I'm not

940
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: doing the same things these other people are doing to

941
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 3: be out there. Though I'm on that platform, I'm on

942
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: these platforms, I'm verified on everything, but you know, I'm

943
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 3: still at this. I felt like a stagnant level. And

944
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: my Instagram had gotten hacked, so I had no Instagram.

945
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: Uh there was. I was at zero. I had to

946
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: start all over while the book, the book had just

947
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: came out, the book still so I got made a

948
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: new page, built it back up to what it is now.

949
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: That book sold, People supported it, They bought it, took

950
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: pictures of it, sent it to me. People will call

951
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: me and not minister to me, but talk to me

952
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: about things that they were going through, they related to

953
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: my book and like I said, for it to be

954
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 3: for me to be who I am. And there were

955
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: some other reality stars, but books out way bigger shows,

956
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 3: way bigger names than me. Mine outlive them all and

957
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 3: outsold them as well. And that just goes to show

958
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: the type of people that follow me and support me

959
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: and who I am and where I stand in this business.

960
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: And then now receiving the checks, let's talk the money part.

961
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 3: Now. Books are interesting because when you do a book

962
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: through a publishing company, you got to give them their

963
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: money back that they put into marketing as well.

964
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so they marketed a book, so you you

965
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: you got to.

966
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 3: Pay them their back, their part back, and then after

967
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: you once you give them, once they get their cut back,

968
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 3: everything else is yours.

969
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

970
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: Now, do you ever go back and thinks in your.

971
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: Head like, damn, I wish I would have just done

972
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 2: it self published or do you feel.

973
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, you really could do self published book

974
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: on Amazon? But you really can. I see so many

975
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: and they do well. But it was just it was

976
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: a learned it was something. It was my therapy. I

977
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: needed it.

978
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: No, I get that, and I'm not trying to hold

979
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: them under the bus. But I am genuinely curious, like,

980
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 1: do you think that having it published for them made

981
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: a difference?

982
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 3: You know, because I did all the promotions.

983
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: That's why I want to know.

984
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: So looking back at it, I could have done it myself.

985
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 3: But I will say, even though the Amazon website takes

986
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 3: you through it, how to upload it, how you can

987
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: change your titles, I mean your cover title, how you

988
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: can go in and edit, you know, do the edits.

989
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: It's still a learning process. I say. If you are

990
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: going to do a self edit, take time to learn

991
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 3: that site about self publishing, so you know how to

992
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: get the barcode correct, how you know how you because

993
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: you can really set your book up from your iPhone

994
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: if you wanted to just upload the manuscript. That's the

995
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: main thing, is the manuscript. Make sure a spell right.

996
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: But they have a proof checker who go through it

997
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 3: and you, yeah, just pay for the service.

998
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: You heard it here first, guys, there's award winning publisher

999
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: top number one.

1000
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: You said six.

1001
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: It was a best seller for six weeks on four

1002
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: different in charge. It was for college or university student life,

1003
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: a l LGBTQ and for black biographies. Like I could

1004
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: not believe it.

1005
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1006
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 3: But we were in COVID. We were all at home,

1007
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: like we had nothing to dow anyway. Well it's still

1008
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: it's still a huge fee. It's yeah, those good money.

1009
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: And trust me, during COVID, people everyone made their own decisions.

1010
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: I always go like, damn, did I make the right

1011
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 2: decisions during COVID. We did produce eating while broke during COVID.

1012
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: I was in Atlanta during COVID. We was outside. You know,

1013
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: Atlanta did our clothes, they just put them all they

1014
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 3: told us they put the thermometer to your head and

1015
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 3: just made sure you wasn't hot. And that was it.

1016
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: Eighty five South we did. We taped down there LA

1017
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: five South Lake, Chico and DC and all those guys

1018
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: down there were like we were on break for about

1019
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: a week.

1020
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 3: Right.

1021
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: LA was shut down for two years.

1022
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: Man. I came back to LA and Hollywood looked like downtown. Yeah.

1023
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, LA was shut down for so long that I

1024
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: got married and had a baby.

1025
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't think.

1026
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: I didn't think, you know, I knew we were gonna

1027
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: eventually go outside, but it started to become a real norm.

1028
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: But to hear Atlanta had a whole differ experience.

1029
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: We were outside, we would get you could get drinks

1030
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: to go from the restaurants. We was at. Shout out

1031
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: to sea. What was I don't think they're opening to

1032
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 3: Atlanta anymore. We were at sea. What's smoking? Hookah? Dad

1033
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 3: said the clubs was open.

1034
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 2: LA was none of that.

1035
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: We were open. So when I flew back here, you

1036
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: back here, I was like, oh, hell no, I got

1037
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: to go back to Atlanta.

1038
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: When New York had all the horror stores, people in

1039
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: New York was it was scared straight.

1040
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: You couldn't get them to open the door for nothing. Man, listen,

1041
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: step back from the bag, drop it off, step back.

1042
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 3: When I went home to visit my parents in Virginia

1043
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 3: for KRIB we drove up from Atlanta to go because

1044
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: we were to go spend New Year's in DC. My

1045
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: dad and my stepmom had masks. When they was like,

1046
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: can't come in the house, but we when to come outside.

1047
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 3: I talked to you the driveway, y'all stay in the

1048
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 3: car like we really had Christmas through the window. Like

1049
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 3: then they put their gins in the trunk and I

1050
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 3: gave them theirs. COVID was a crazy time.

1051
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember getting a Thanksgiving we was in Detroit.

1052
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: We got Thanksgiving dinners and the cars. We ate it

1053
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: for ourselves and where we were staying and thank you.

1054
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: COVID looked like a different world being in Atlanta because

1055
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: I was also that was also the election with Trump

1056
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: and Biden and Kamala, so I was outside helping promote

1057
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: Kamala and Biden. Back then we were trying to it

1058
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: was black Lives Matter. It was so many things going

1059
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 3: on during COVID and being in Atlanta and it being

1060
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: open and everyone outside that way, but looking at the

1061
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: news and seeing how LA was shut down and boarded

1062
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: up up north everyone had like fifty masks on and

1063
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 3: not outside and the people that were actually passing away

1064
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 3: from COVID, and then the whole uproar of the vaccine

1065
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 3: and then the election results and then the insurrection on

1066
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: the It was so COVID was so dramatic. It was

1067
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 3: it was that's a book right there.

1068
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 2: That's a book right there.

1069
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: And so now after COVID, you have this successful book,

1070
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: what's your next play?

1071
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: So after COVID, and.

1072
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing your audio audio biography, realizing this is this.

1073
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: Is picking u where the book left off so I

1074
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: got into TV film production. I worked with Heillionaire Productions

1075
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: and we did a movie called Mama's Boy, which starred

1076
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 3: Lawrence Robinson. He's everybody's favorite IG crush person. He was

1077
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: in it with the young lady name right now and

1078
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: that's coming out later this year. And then we also

1079
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 3: did a film called The Influencer, which aired on All

1080
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 3: Black earlier this year, and that was my first film

1081
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: I did. When I met her the day of came

1082
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: right on set. I was an extra. She and I

1083
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: hit it off. She went to family, I went to

1084
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 3: Virginia State where both D nine and we just started

1085
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 3: working together. And then I went to Houston with her

1086
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 3: and filmed the Christmas movie that I actually ended up

1087
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: having a roll in with the Braxton sisters. So that

1088
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: was like a whole little three sixty moment and it's

1089
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 3: called Christmas Cover Up and that will be out later

1090
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: this year at Christmas.

1091
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: So, wow, you been busy, busy, I don't see you.

1092
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: You're not going back to reality TV.

1093
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: You know what I have. There's been a couple of

1094
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 3: things that I have been approached about through my management.

1095
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 3: One of them was actually I was really considering it.

1096
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 3: It would have been the third season of that show. Unfortunately,

1097
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: that show got put on pause and it ain't been

1098
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: play ain't been pressed yet, so I'm assuming it's canceled.

1099
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 3: And then a show that I actually helped create had

1100
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: went through the whole pitch process and unfortunately, when the

1101
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: strike happened, all the network shut down and that project

1102
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 3: pretty much got shelved. But it was about to be greenld.

1103
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 3: I was super excited, Well it might come back. I

1104
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: don't know the timing for me now it fits for me,

1105
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: but I would love to work with those gentlemen again

1106
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 3: and put some money else in my spot because there

1107
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: was definitely something there. It was gonna be amazing. And

1108
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: as of recent something has come up that I'm interested in,

1109
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: but my focus is in TV right now. I have

1110
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: the name, they know who I am. I really am

1111
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: just advocating for HBCUs, especially now with this current administration

1112
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: and all these DEI things. They're wiping you away and

1113
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: trying to do away with I say, black education. It's

1114
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 3: very important for me to share my platform and inform

1115
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 3: people of types of financial aid so the children can

1116
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 3: go to HBC's Because hbcs were creative, creative for a

1117
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: specific reason things that are going on now is why

1118
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: we have HBCUs and they are important, they are relevant.

1119
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: I had the best transformative four years of my life

1120
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 3: in Virginia State, and I would love for kids, especially

1121
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: from southern California, to get to go down south and

1122
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: find out other things. You can put us out of taco.

1123
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: You know, exactly, exactly exactly, Okay, all right, so right now,

1124
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: your passions is definitely community service.

1125
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: Being a brother of Alpha Phi Alpha for.

1126
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: T and that's how that's how I ended up meeting

1127
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: you at the Do you remember we met Christmas Prey

1128
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: prey but it was a park.

1129
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 3: It was a bunch of us. It was Ray J

1130
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: torriy Omar Gooding.

1131
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Omar was on the show did Man.

1132
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: When I first met Omar, I was like, that's the

1133
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: guy from Baby Boy. It's so cool with meeting people

1134
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: in person that you grew up watching and now we're

1135
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: in the same business, same industry, got the same management,

1136
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, what's up. You were trying my

1137
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: soy sauce tacos.

1138
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 1: Them things are slamming. So no, it's nice to hear

1139
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: that you are in your community service era. And that's

1140
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: actually where I met you.

1141
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was doing you were doing community.

1142
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 3: I love it. It's fulfilling. I've had an awesome forty years.

1143
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: I've twenty eighteen specifically working in entertainment, and I just

1144
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 3: feel like part of my legacy and what I want

1145
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: to start building is that, you know, I met these people,

1146
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: I've had these opportunities, but somebody gave it to me.

1147
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 3: So if I can be a blessing to someone else,

1148
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: I know I'll get something later in life.

1149
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1150
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: So that's where I am with that.

1151
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: I like that you heard it here first everybody, And

1152
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: please don't judge us for our taco eating break because.

1153
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: We fin go get some more them. Tacos was delicious.

1154
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna be eating tacos for dinner tonight.

1155
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Okay, don't forget when you make your tacos at home

1156
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: to add soy sauce to it.

1157
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: I definitely think it does make the difference.

1158
00:53:59,040 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: Shout outs to.

1159
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: Miss the Red for the secret ingredient and not being

1160
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: stingy and sharing.

1161
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 3: It with us. Right, Guccie, I gave her some good

1162
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: tea good tie.

1163
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: And where can everybody keep up with you besides on

1164
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: the mainstream Because you have a lot of stuff coming out.

1165
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Instagram is the best place to catch me.

1166
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: It's m I S S T E r r A

1167
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: Y eight oh four. I'm forever eight oh four boy,

1168
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: but I'm a Dina boy at HART. I definitely want

1169
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: to give a special shout out to everybody in Altadena

1170
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: Pasadena and everyone who has contributed to their relief efforts

1171
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 3: out there. Our community is still building day by day.

1172
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: Some people are just coming home seeing their place for

1173
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: the first time and just trying to figure out how

1174
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: to get it together. As it rains.

1175
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: Now, as it rains, I know, finally, yeah, exactly. All right, Well,

1176
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking time out of your day.

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00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: To feed me.

1178
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, that was good.

1179
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: You know you're more than welcome to feed me anytime.

1180
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: And then if I have a holiday, you're more than

1181
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: welcome because she.

1182
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 3: Do crab legs for her holidays, you know, black folks

1183
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: from the DMV, we love a crab leg.

1184
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: You know, I gotta do it that way, all right,

1185
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 2: Peace out, y'all. For more eating while broke from iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: and The Black Effect, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

1187
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