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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by the

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Speaker 1: one and only West Hodkowitz. Were coming to you here

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Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field and West. The pads

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Speaker 1: have gone on here in training camp. We have been

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Speaker 1: witnessed to one padded practice, the uppers, the shoulder pads.

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Speaker 1: We are will be watching our second padded practice when

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Speaker 1: we skt out a lot of the studio here later

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Speaker 1: this morning. I just wanted to get your impressions on

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Speaker 1: the first workout in pads. What stood out to you? Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing I always look for and you and I

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Speaker 1: kind of have a little thing going. It's the most

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Speaker 1: exciting period of any training camp practice from the beginning

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Speaker 1: to the end, when you have the one on ones

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Speaker 1: offensive line, defensive line, and then you got the routes,

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Speaker 1: you know, the one on one's receivers, running backs, all

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Speaker 1: that against against the dbs. Yeah, it's the most Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: happens at the same exact time, so you can only

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Speaker 1: pick one. You were over at the receivers and everything.

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Speaker 1: I stayed back with the lineman and it is every year.

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Speaker 1: It's one of my most favorite things to watch because

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Speaker 1: it really is the monoemano part of this whole process. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not everything. You can excel in the drill and

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Speaker 1: not be that great. You cannot do well in that

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Speaker 1: I think back to Kyler Faker. Everybody gave Kyler Faker

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Speaker 1: one on one Kyler Factro is a legitimate NFL football players,

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Speaker 1: the rubb of the green, so to speak. But what

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Speaker 1: I loved about this was you got a chance to

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Speaker 1: see Josh Myers for the first time taking reps against

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Speaker 1: Kenny Clark with their pads on. Both of those guys

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Speaker 1: two bulls in a china shop going up against each other.

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Speaker 1: I wrote about it an Insider inbox. For Shan Gary,

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Speaker 1: he's always looked like a man in that drill, but

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Speaker 1: I mean this year, you can see the speed to

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Speaker 1: power that he has in his rush, especially as bull rush.

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Speaker 1: But he also can be guys around the edges, some

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Speaker 1: of these young guys too. I'll close on this. This

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Speaker 1: have to offer. Now that might seem really rudimentary, but

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Speaker 1: that's where a guy like Greg Van Rotting back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve started to emerge. That's where you start

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Speaker 1: to notice that Don Barclays of the world, and ultimately

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Speaker 1: then it starts to translate to preseason games. So it

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Speaker 1: was a really fun first day of practice. That's funny

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Speaker 1: that No, that's funny that you that as soon as

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Speaker 1: you said Don Barkley, that was exactly the name I

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Speaker 1: was thinking of. When you talk about those guys there,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're a little later in that one on

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Speaker 1: those undrafted guys, and and yeah, that's when they start

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Speaker 1: to that's when they start to stand out. I made

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Speaker 1: a comment in our three Things video after Tuesday's practice

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Speaker 1: as far as the wide receiver's dbs, because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to see this Juwan Winfrey, because he really was the

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Speaker 1: star of the young wide receivers in the spring. When

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Speaker 1: there's no pads, they're really the jams at the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and all that kind of stuff. Well, now

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Speaker 1: against Eric Stokes, the Packers first round draft pick. Now

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Speaker 1: that being said, with the one on ones and as

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Speaker 1: I think for the one on one in the pass

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Speaker 1: distinct advantage because there's no other traffic right the I

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Speaker 1: mean the the defender can go whichever way he wants to.

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Speaker 1: He's not going to trip over anybody else, right and right.

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Speaker 1: The offensive lineman has to has that much more territory

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Speaker 1: cover zero, right, But that. But that's but because of

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Speaker 1: but so you can't you can't take all of it

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Speaker 1: techniques even if they don't work quite exactly right in

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Speaker 1: for when it's really gonna matter. And getting back to

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Speaker 1: They're always alternating. They'll run the Packers. They've made this

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Speaker 1: also making their own. Yeah, it's fun, it's fun to

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Speaker 1: watch for sure. Well, we heard from quarterback Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. On Wednesday, the Packers had just to walk

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Speaker 1: the media. We did talk to a few players afterwards.

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Speaker 1: In one of those was quarterback Aaron Rodgers. And interestingly,

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Speaker 1: we've been kind of as a media core as a whole,

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Speaker 1: when we talk to them about like, hey, so what's

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Speaker 1: different about Joe Barry's defense? You know, like, are you

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Speaker 1: is adjusting to with Joe Berry's defense is how they

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say surprise, but it's the element

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Speaker 1: more I mean, the whole press conference, all twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: And you think about the heavy fronts that they had

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and also the offensive coordinate or a lot

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Speaker 1: that's that's why I caught my That's why I caught

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Speaker 1: It looks for the upcoming season, these are the practices,

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Speaker 1: what the defense is presenting. It's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why when you hear all these guys talking day after day,

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Speaker 1: press conference after press conference, there's a lot of swagger

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Speaker 1: all three phases to make a championship run. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: and it fits him there. Chris Barnes, I think that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about options. He's a guy that gives Joe

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Speaker 1: settle that defense in the sub packages. Yeah. An interesting

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