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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: We got first time guest George Duceman with us tonight.

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Speaker 1: George A. Duceman. You can find his information at George

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Speaker 1: Duceman dot com and that is spelled George G E

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Speaker 1: O R G E and then Duceman is d U

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Speaker 1: I S M A N dot com. You'll also see

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Speaker 1: in there who helps him out all the time is

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Speaker 1: Liz Cross. And so that's what you'll see when you

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Speaker 1: go there, and you can learn more about it and

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Speaker 1: have it done for yourself too. What we're talking about

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Speaker 1: is the four minute miracle and also getting into the CTT.

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to make sure you, George,

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Speaker 1: you talk about all you want with the four minute

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Speaker 1: miracle before you go into your CTT. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like you have you know, the four mint a miracle

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Speaker 1: I use for an introduction, and it simply takes people

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Speaker 1: from oh this is an interesting you know a line,

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Speaker 1: to oh my god, something happened. You know that's that's

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Speaker 1: a huge step forward, and and it's really cool. I

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Speaker 1: did it with him. You know you you basically you

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Speaker 1: cross your like me I would cross my arms and

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Speaker 1: I would take my hands and hit them with the

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Speaker 1: top part of the arm and that would be the

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Speaker 1: tapping instead of the tapping of the face, the eyes

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Speaker 1: under all that kind of thing, right, right, and and

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Speaker 1: then you guide me through it. Um. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think of something that I could do and you could

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Speaker 1: guide me through it, but I can't think of something

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Speaker 1: right now. So uh, probably not being not to try

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Speaker 1: one on air because you're going to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit oh um, you're gonna be a little bit different

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Speaker 1: that way. I'd just do it over over the internet

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Speaker 1: with people all the time, and I've done about done

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Speaker 1: about about four hundred Okay, so yeah, you can do

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Speaker 1: it over the phone. You can do it over the internet.

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Speaker 1: You usually do that with zoom or something right or

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Speaker 1: something like that. It was my favorite. Yeah. So then

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Speaker 1: you can record and give it back to them if

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Speaker 1: they want. And I've just seen some of them and

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Speaker 1: people are like, oh my gosh, I don't even remember

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Speaker 1: why I asked you to do this for me. They

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Speaker 1: didn't even remember what the what the problem was that

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Speaker 1: they had. Ye, Yeah, that was really cute with Kattia.

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Speaker 1: I screwed up. I didn't turn the recording round on

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Speaker 1: right away, So the recording is missing about it one

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Speaker 1: minute from it. But I said, you got any think

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Speaker 1: it comes from a simple, single event and she said, well,

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Speaker 1: when I was eight years old, my godmother said you're

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Speaker 1: not the sweet little girl anymore and that hurt. We

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Speaker 1: already hurt. So we started tapping. And we got done tapping,

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Speaker 1: and I said, okay, what's the pain level now? She

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Speaker 1: said it wasn't about an eight I think, and she goes, no,

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Speaker 1: she literally had forgot gotten what we were tapping about.

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Speaker 1: I believe that she was accessing the memory via the pain,

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Speaker 1: and when the pain went away, she couldn't remember. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty darn good. I think that's a good thing. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. And you know, she says, um, no, why

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Speaker 1: do we get a tap on? H Yeah, what were

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Speaker 1: that complaining about? Yeah that's good. I'm stunned like that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was cute. That was cute. That was She's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what, Yeah it was. She was like lost,

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Speaker 1: like well that, huh. That was really good. That was

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Speaker 1: that was pretty amazing. I've seen other people do a

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Speaker 1: lot of tapping stuff. Do you feel I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: with your four minute miracle. You don't feel this way,

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Speaker 1: But do you feel that when all these other people

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Speaker 1: do the EFT and they're tapping around, that they do

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Speaker 1: have to hit all of you know, do all the

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Speaker 1: tapping that they do. You can you know complicated? No? No, Well,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Craig learned tapping from Roger Callahan. Roger Callahan felt

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Speaker 1: he had a muscle test and the exact sequence. Now,

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Speaker 1: Garry Craig one day said, you know, if you could

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Speaker 1: test an exact sequence like that, you could test the

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Speaker 1: winning lottery numbers and win. HM. So if you can

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Speaker 1: muscle test that good, you can win win a lottery jackpot.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, So he just said, we did do

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Speaker 1: an order, and so that's what he did. And then

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Speaker 1: I realized you don't have to take and do anything

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Speaker 1: but two points. And that's you know, You've like you

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Speaker 1: hook yourself. Your one arm falls on your shoulder between

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Speaker 1: the opposite side shouls the same thing and you tap

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Speaker 1: one side and then the other side one one, one

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Speaker 1: it's just there's no reason to do anything else. Why

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Speaker 1: does it work? I don't fully know, but I guess

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Speaker 1: is that what it does is it exercises the corpus colossum,

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Speaker 1: the part of the brain that bridges the two hemispheres.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's said that when people have their hemispheres synchronize,

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Speaker 1: then the other side, then the other side, you're synchronizing

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Speaker 1: to do hemispheres. Do you think you could do that

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Speaker 1: and synchronize the hemispheres for good permanent You're tried to

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Speaker 1: not just that, No, but I believe this is just

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Speaker 1: my belief. This is kind of a wild guess that

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Speaker 1: if you do enough CTT sessions and you get enough

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Speaker 1: jungle cleared up in your soul, you probably can because

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Speaker 1: then you'll always be able to have you know, you

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Speaker 1: nice to have that all the time. Yeah, absolutely so,

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Speaker 1: now did you I think you also mentioned to me

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Speaker 1: that this has cleared up some night driving problems with

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Speaker 1: people in road rage even or oh yeah, yeah. One

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Speaker 1: so she was actually able to tune in for her

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Speaker 1: husband's path life. We did the session where he apparently

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Speaker 1: in a path life had done something wrong and somebody

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Speaker 1: he loved died and he was still angry at himself.

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Speaker 1: And when somebody did something like that, he was furious.

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Speaker 1: And we did the session and she says, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: so nice now they have not had that road rage there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that that went away. What about the night driving

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Speaker 1: is that where they were just afraid to drive at night? Oh,

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Speaker 1: that is really weird. This gal, she could not stand

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Speaker 1: she's just doing everything she can to not have an

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Speaker 1: I guided to her, this is really weird. Guided to

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Speaker 1: her to a past life as a young boy in

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Speaker 1: and he's running for his life, but the jungle bushes

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Speaker 1: becomes dinner. Not being able to see well was a

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Speaker 1: gargantuan trauma for her in her soul. Yeah, that would

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Speaker 1: in four minutes? Oh no, No, it wasn't a four

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Speaker 1: minute miracle. It was a session. Oh it was a

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Speaker 1: exactly more of that in a minute here. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: it wasn't really fully complete that she was able to

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Speaker 1: drive at night without having you know, the panic. But

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Speaker 1: she still wasn't completely comfortable driving at night, but was

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Speaker 1: much much better. Oh okay, okay, So um, well, there

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Speaker 1: is that the same one that was afraid of the

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Speaker 1: A friend of mine had a woman she worked with,

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Speaker 1: go for a walk on the forest. She said. After

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Speaker 1: the session, the woman was blown away, no more fear.

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Speaker 1: She went out for a walk in the forest at night.

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Speaker 1: Well that's let me tell you, it's still scary to

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Speaker 1: night by yourself. It's that's still creepy. Um. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you that firsthand. So you know this is easily taught,

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Speaker 1: but it's the second half. That's a little different, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the CTT, that is the Yeah, this is what

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Speaker 1: you created, the consciousness transformation. Yeah, the key is a

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Speaker 1: principle that I use all the time, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: make good sense to people's conscious minds. So there's a

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Speaker 1: big stick Okay, there's just a stick up. People can't

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Speaker 1: get that their conscious mind doesn't know all the answers.

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Speaker 1: It's really really hard for people to get that. And

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Speaker 1: I finally got that mostly so I'm getting my march

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Speaker 1: to get out of the way pretty well. So okay,

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Speaker 1: so now me, I believe the subconscious knows all. But

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Speaker 1: that's right, Yeah, okay, and the consciousness. You're saying that

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Speaker 1: the consciousness is like going to get out of the way,

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Speaker 1: because usually the ego doesn't let it get out of

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Speaker 1: the way. Right. Well, yeah, I've trained myself to realize

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Speaker 1: the deep mind take over. And it's real Okay. One

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Speaker 1: of the things I do is guiding somebody. I say, okay,

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Speaker 1: next flue. Pretty soon their deep mind will give them

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Speaker 1: the clues they need to connect. It's amazing and simple. Well,

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Speaker 1: not at all. Four minute miracle is something that you

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Speaker 1: know about that came from a simple single event, okay,

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Speaker 1: Victor the PTSD, okay, m he connected with being a

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Speaker 1: some more, and in the angle of war they had

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Speaker 1: they bombed the doorways and they bombed the building. It

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Speaker 1: was chaos and death. They said, he was exactly how

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Speaker 1: they felt, and that's why what triggered is ptsd M.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Some of the other examples of the miracles, Um,

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Speaker 1: I believe if I'm just trying to remember this offhand.

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Speaker 1: Was it insect phobia? Oh yeah, sex addition addiction. You

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Speaker 1: were able also with narcissistic personality disorder. That's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: If you got rid of that, well we think we did.

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Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. You should get five billion dollars for that.

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Speaker 1: Every time you do that for someone. That's excellent. Um Um.

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Speaker 1: There was business ventures and just different fears I remember

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Speaker 1: correctly business adventures that was that was somebody else's input.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly what that was now. Huh. I

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Speaker 1: got one really cool one. You know somebody who knows EFT. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a thing called anorexia where somebody just just can't

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Speaker 1: from starvation. M hmm. Okay. I did work with this

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