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Speaker 1: What's the Broncos Country? Welcome back inside the uc Hell

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Speaker 1: Training Center for today's edition of Broncos Now. A team

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Speaker 1: reporter and host Sidney Jones here and coming up on

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Speaker 1: today's episode, ESPN senior writer Jeff Legwald joins the show.

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Speaker 1: We'll give insight in analysis surrounding the team and Sunday's

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Speaker 1: couple of players as we got their thoughts on Monday

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Speaker 1: following the game. All that more coming up. You're at

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Speaker 1: the uc Hell Training Center. The players had the day off. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: there was no practice and no media press conferences. So

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Speaker 1: for today's episode of Broncos Now, ESPN A senior writer

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Speaker 1: Jeff leg Wald is here joining me inside the Broncos

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Speaker 1: podcast studio to give his insight and thoughts on the team. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining Broncos Now today. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Well, let's dive right into it. Then.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Broncos got their second win at home

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Speaker 1: this weekend. Again, it wasn't the prettiest up wins. We

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Speaker 1: why do you think that they've been struggling so much

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Speaker 1: and what do you think really clicked on that scoring

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Speaker 1: drive for them? Well, Sydney, I would say this is

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Speaker 1: not a new phenomenon with new coaching staffs. The unique

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Speaker 1: think on the offensive side of the ball, it's more prevalent,

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Speaker 1: so there's gonna be a learning curve there no matter

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Speaker 1: you don't have a a presence of a of the

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Speaker 1: Dom Capers on the defensive side of the ball or

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Speaker 1: The quarterbacks new Russell Wilson's very used to doing something

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Speaker 1: of it. So common expected, but concerning nonetheless, because it

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Speaker 1: they can be thankful their defense is very very good

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Speaker 1: They only had three offensive penalties in the game, one

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Speaker 1: So okay, that improved not you know, now red zone

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Speaker 1: your job. Agreed, Well, Jeff, let's dive a little bit

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