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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, and Louie Scruggs.

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Speaker 3: Alright here we are Players Counch on a Thursday, five

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Speaker 3: minutes late. I don't know how some people made in

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Speaker 3: the league. I do know how they made it, made

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Speaker 3: the league of giving up the heck Ma Harrison. These

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Speaker 3: are all facts here since eight thirty eight thirty eight

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Speaker 3: thirty legend Trey Moore is here, no rocket, Barry Church

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Speaker 3: is here on his own time, no man. So the

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Speaker 3: wild the wild thing is Church are not coming down

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Speaker 3: the same roads?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. He drove out, He drove out the

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Speaker 4: crib and was like, I know the.

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Speaker 3: Roads you're traveling down. Bryan Shanheimer hired on Monday.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, let's get it now.

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Speaker 3: That it's happened. I'll start with you Churchill, go round

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Speaker 3: the table.

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Speaker 4: Can we start?

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Speaker 5: Because I heard I heard, I heard some people telling

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Speaker 5: me something. What I mean, what about?

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Speaker 4: I want know? Young mostots.

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Speaker 6: Like big from what are you doing passed the reverse

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Speaker 6: Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 3: He did HBCU Hall of Famers was like, ask what

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Speaker 3: he thinks?

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Speaker 4: That's that's what? That what I heard.

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Speaker 6: You will keep it a beat, you Hall of Famers,

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Speaker 6: But you know I gonna say, day that's up man. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Like like all of y'all, it probably took you back.

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Speaker 6: You probably had to figure out what the hell is

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Speaker 6: going on? How did this come down to pipeline? How

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Speaker 6: was a guy that nobody else interviewed now the front runner.

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Speaker 4: For the Dallas Cowboy job?

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Speaker 5: And after much anticipation for it to be be put

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Speaker 5: out into the public at nine o'clock at night, it

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Speaker 5: finally comes down to wire.

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Speaker 4: Friday, Friday night, Friday night at the bar. You're sitting

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Speaker 4: there the market.

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Speaker 5: Next thing, you know, oh yeah, wow, you know, unceremoniously,

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Speaker 5: ceremoniously we got a coach. And you know, look, man,

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Speaker 5: I like many people don't know anything about Brian Schoenhammer

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Speaker 5: as a coach, as a head coach. He hasn't been

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Speaker 5: you know, twenty five years as an assistant and also

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Speaker 5: someone that has been a.

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Speaker 4: Liaison just go between.

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Speaker 5: When it comes down to the teams that he has

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Speaker 5: been on, I don't want to be one of these

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Speaker 5: negative people that's gonna pile on Brian Schottenhammer because I

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Speaker 5: don't have any time proof of consistency to go off of,

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Speaker 5: and so it's easy to be negative in a situation

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Speaker 5: where you don't have anything to go off of. All

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say is, damn if if if this is

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Speaker 5: the guy that you after watching the press conference, if

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Speaker 5: this is the guy that you're gonna go with, and.

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Speaker 4: Now I mean that, is that a good damn or bad?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 5: I think after after I was watching it, you know,

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Speaker 5: and it was it was one of those ones where

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Speaker 5: you're you're sitting and I was waiting on the press

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Speaker 5: conference like everybody, I want to see what Jerry has

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Speaker 5: to say, well, Steven has to say, and and I

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Speaker 5: think what I took away from what Jerry was saying

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Speaker 5: is that I'm sitting in meetings and Shoty is given

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Speaker 5: his you know advice to to Mike and h well,

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Speaker 5: mark that down.

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Speaker 4: That's a pretty good advice, you know.

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Speaker 5: Oh look at him going against the saying something contrary

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Speaker 5: to what Mike was saying. And I'm thinking to myself,

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Speaker 5: the next Dallas Cowboy head coach, if I'm shoty bet

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Speaker 5: not nobody say a word in the meeting.

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Speaker 4: Room with Jerry is a road by Ben, shut your mouth.

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Speaker 5: If you got something to say, say it after the meeting,

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Speaker 5: because don't you be doing a double interview with Jerry

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Speaker 5: in the building. Like It's just it's one of those

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Speaker 5: questions and ask to how this coaching staff is going

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Speaker 5: to be any different from the one that you just

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Speaker 5: let go. How is it going to be different? How

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Speaker 5: is the culture going to be shifting from what you've

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Speaker 5: All of those things, it's just gray areas and questions.

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Speaker 4: Give him an opportunity. Chur you would roll that had

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Speaker 4: some but they say food for thoughts. Man.

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Speaker 7: First of all, if I'm shoddy, the way that I

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Speaker 7: would have did it on Friday.

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Speaker 4: What shout out to go little What she say is

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Speaker 4: nine pm Friday.

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Speaker 7: No head coach and the head coach they got me,

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Speaker 7: they got Cowboys. Y'all just have shoddy regardless as far

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Speaker 7: as what I feel about him, Like I said, y'all

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Speaker 7: seen the show last week. For all y'all that didn't

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Speaker 7: But I said it. Former players have spoken very highly

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Speaker 7: of thee and it's not just one player. It's been

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Speaker 7: multiple players. And I'm not going to put their names

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Speaker 7: out there. But I can't put one guy name out

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Speaker 7: there because he told me to. But for Richard Sherman,

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Speaker 7: stand on the table and beat the drum for this

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Speaker 7: guy for the Cowboys. Obviously they got a rally around him,

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Speaker 7: but I'm seeing a lot of players rally around him.

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Speaker 7: But I would be remiss if I didn't say there

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Speaker 7: that because it wasn't the big name coming to quote

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Speaker 7: unquote America team that's another conversation for later. Are they

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Speaker 7: still America's team? But it's a big pressure on you.

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Speaker 7: This is the crock pot of the NFL right now,

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Speaker 7: because they do have a history of winning, they do

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Speaker 7: have the history of having an owner that is very involved.

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Speaker 7: Who is your GM? So can you handle that? And

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Speaker 7: so for me, I guess that's where the question is,

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Speaker 7: is like will Shoddy be able to handle that? And

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Speaker 7: that was the first question that I asked all these

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Speaker 7: But I'm telling you right now, you get a trump

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Speaker 7: go in there, Hey, Bobby Bands, you ain't gonna really

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Speaker 7: talk to Bobby like that, but you'll talk to Doug Baldwin. Hey,

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Speaker 7: cut your mouth. Like guys that had no filter for

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Speaker 7: them to stand on the table like that. I am

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Speaker 7: overly ecstatic because I just want to see what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna give us good conversation.

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Speaker 7: So we'll see what they say, pressure bus pipes and

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Speaker 7: make diamonds. Man, I want to see if he a

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Speaker 7: VVS one.

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Speaker 5: You know, we'll see most of the time it's just

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Speaker 4: Most of the time.

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Speaker 7: I just write two times throughout the day and before

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Speaker 7: I pass it to my dog, Barry. I got one

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Speaker 7: little question that we'll get back to maybe in the

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Speaker 7: next segment. But I heard you when you said in

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Speaker 7: your conversation, if I'm shoddy and learning from what I

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Speaker 7: learned with Mike McCarthy and him learning from under Hill,

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Speaker 7: that if I come in here that now anybody in

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Speaker 7: this staff, if y'all say anything while Jerry is going on,

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Speaker 7: you alluded to the fact that it shut your mouth.

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Speaker 4: You feel like that happened before he ow the mind.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what to really think about this, you know,

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Speaker 6: because it's the unknown. Like y'all both said. This man,

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Speaker 6: you know, he's been coaching for a long time, you know,

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Speaker 6: quarter of a century, twenty five years. He's been you know,

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Speaker 6: other teams this offseason, you know when you talk about

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Speaker 6: sure what to think about it. You know, obviously, you

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Speaker 6: know Dak went out there and said what he said.

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Speaker 6: You know, they're tied together for the next four years,

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Speaker 6: And obviously, for what Dak said, you know him and

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Speaker 4: But to me, when you look at it as a.

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Speaker 4: For a couple of years and Zimmer this year.

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Speaker 6: Now you're gonna have another defensive coordinator in iber Fluz,

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Speaker 6: I worry about that part of a little bit of it.

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Speaker 6: But when you talk about a leader of men and

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Speaker 6: to run through a brick wall, hopefully that's what Schachdenheimer can.

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Speaker 4: Bring to the table, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I want to see him do what Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 6: there so they can run through a brick fall for him.

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Speaker 6: Go out there, call the plays, all right, go out

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Speaker 6: there and put your stamp on this offense and let's

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Speaker 6: see what you really have as a head coach since

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Speaker 6: you finally got the opportunity to do it. In my opinion,

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Speaker 6: it was shocking. I'm kind of what the heck. It

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Speaker 6: But you know, I don't want to spew more negativity

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Speaker 6: on it. Just give the guy the benefit of doubt.

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Speaker 6: See what he can do out there, and we'll see

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Speaker 6: what happened at the chips fall where they fall.

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Speaker 7: But why is everybody being so negative like right now,

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Speaker 7: like just because it's not the name, because the Cowboys,

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Speaker 5: you talk about Brian Schaenhamer and the running la Danian Thomason,

438
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Speaker 5: where's he you know, I mean beast mode, where's he going?

439
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Speaker 4: I mean all of the guys that he had.

440
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Speaker 5: So it's like, when you have that kind of success,

441
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Speaker 5: it brings me back to the Ben Johnson's of the world,

442
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Speaker 5: that those guys that have success with players that are

443
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Speaker 5: quote unquote almost Hall of Fame level players. But then

444
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Speaker 5: you come to a situation where the covers are bare,

445
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Speaker 5: you don't have any of that. Then we're going you

446
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Speaker 5: know what you're going to be saying in the fall,

447
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 5: the carpenter doesn't have his tools, and it's gonna be

448
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Speaker 5: eerily reminiscent of what we've already experienced on the defensive side.

449
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Speaker 5: And now it's going to be two years of trying

450
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Speaker 5: to wait on him to actually get those components so

451
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Speaker 5: that he can run his scheme.

452
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Speaker 4: Does he have that kind of time?

453
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Speaker 3: This is where the ownership, if they want to do

454
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Speaker 3: something for the fans and get people on board, go

455
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Speaker 3: out and give the man help. Free agency draft. You

456
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Speaker 3: got to help Brian.

457
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Speaker 4: Shine, you got to. You got to.

458
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Speaker 7: You gotta go out there and give him help. But

459
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Speaker 7: you also have to put him in the best position.

460
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Speaker 7: And so that was a great take that you just did.

461
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Speaker 7: But I can't sit here and help. But think, like

462
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Speaker 7: what new he said earlier, Jerry, what made you say, Hey,

463
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Speaker 7: I'm sold on this guy historically speaking, and he's a

464
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Speaker 7: run first, play action pass. This is what the Cowboys

465
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Speaker 7: has had submit in the past and years prior to

466
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Speaker 7: their success. But for you to not have these tools

467
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Speaker 7: here for you to go interview this guy and know

468
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Speaker 7: that that is his scheme, and then it's like okay

469
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Speaker 7: in my head for him to be the most successful guy.

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Speaker 7: Unless I'm just doing this just because this was the

471
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Speaker 7: last minute higher, but I'm gonna put you the best position. So, like,

472
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Speaker 7: is this the year that the Cowboys go out there

473
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Speaker 7: and sell it all during free agency? And right now

474
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Speaker 7: there's a lot of questions out there. Everybody's trying to

475
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Speaker 7: call and get an inference. The only thing solid that

476
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Speaker 7: we can say that the Cowboys and the front office

477
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Speaker 7: no disrespect that they have done that has excited the

478
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Speaker 7: Cowboys is extending Will McLay like you extend him. He's

479
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 7: he's shown in the past that he can go out

480
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Speaker 7: there and go get those guys. He has the makeup.

481
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Speaker 7: This front office has the makeup to go up there.

482
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Speaker 7: They didn't put what potentially in the last few years.

483
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Speaker 7: Get me right with the numbers and newly you know

484
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Speaker 7: you're a fat guy, But how many Hall of famers

485
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Speaker 7: have they had on this office on line? How many

486
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Speaker 7: people have they brought in? So I'm looking for them

487
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Speaker 7: this year to go in there, like you said, go

488
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Speaker 7: get him the tools.

489
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Speaker 4: I don't like.

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Speaker 7: It's like a coach saying you show up the practice

491
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Speaker 7: like something, why you ain't got to help me? Like

492
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Speaker 7: remember the Titans when people tried to run in there.

493
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Speaker 7: Right now, we don't have a helmet, and so that's

494
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Speaker 7: why I want to know, like do they gotta do

495
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Speaker 7: they guys Spaulding or something back there?

496
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Speaker 5: Let me ask you, there's completely wrong if you were

497
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Speaker 5: on if you were playing defense line for the Giants

498
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Speaker 5: last year and you come to a game versus the

499
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Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys where you're gonna honor play action money. I mean,

500
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Speaker 5: it all sounds good until you're out there and everybody's.

501
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Speaker 4: Looking at your off. But that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: If you so, if you've done all this other stuff

503
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Speaker 7: and all knowing we can all see it black and

504
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Speaker 7: white clears, That's why it kind of makes me say, like, hey,

505
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Speaker 7: unless you just got the blinders on, you're gonna go

506
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Speaker 7: out there and do something.

507
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Speaker 4: You're gonna go get this man a running back.

508
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Speaker 7: You're gonna go get this man an old line to

509
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Speaker 7: make him successful, like or are are we planning for

510
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Speaker 7: something later on down the line to come get a

511
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Speaker 7: first round draft pick for the next year. So, like

512
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Speaker 7: I said, when I seen somebody on social media, they said, oh,

513
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Speaker 7: this is gonna be really good shot, he's gonna do

514
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Speaker 7: good or the Cowboys will being monioacal and planning to

515
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Speaker 7: have the first first round pick, first draft pick for

516
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Speaker 7: the next two years.

517
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Speaker 3: This is where gets tough for me.

518
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Speaker 6: That's where it's because this team is not a one piece,

519
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Speaker 6: two piece, three pieces away like this is a this

520
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 6: is a roster that's I'm not gonna say it's void

521
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Speaker 6: of talent, but it's you need some help, time help.

522
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't say last year, I said it was a rebuild.

523
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Speaker 6: This year it's soft rebuild. They got it, They got

524
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Speaker 6: some boards. You're looking at offensive line, you're looking at

525
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Speaker 6: running back.

526
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Speaker 4: Who's your wide receiver? Number two? Tight end was a

527
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: big drop off this year.

528
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Speaker 6: Defensive line, who's gonna be in your second level with

529
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Speaker 6: the linebackers?

530
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Speaker 3: Overshawn's got two devastating knee injuries. His Kendricks coming back.

531
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Speaker 3: Diggs just went through another surgery on his knee.

532
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Speaker 4: George Lewis is a free agent.

533
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Speaker 3: Your safeties, you got them signed, But are we saying

534
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Speaker 3: they were good last year? Like this is just some

535
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Speaker 3: of the things that this and that's not even including

536
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Speaker 3: the depth pieces that this team needs.

537
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Speaker 4: Because we all understand the season is long.

538
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Speaker 3: You could have need to schedule where they got the AFC.

539
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Speaker 4: North exactly what you're talking about.

540
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Speaker 3: The division, the opposite Parsons, the law coming off injury.

541
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Speaker 3: Is he playing again? Sam Williams coming off of a

542
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Speaker 3: c L.

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Speaker 4: What do we have we.

544
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Speaker 7: People, Carl Lawson, Carloson if we bring him back. We

545
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 7: just hired to just d line coach. We thought we

546
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Speaker 7: was gonna talk about the assistance.

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Speaker 4: With all Carl, don't all do but don't do that.

548
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Speaker 4: Let's keep it. He's a role player. He's a role player.

549
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Speaker 5: He was, He was a bridge player of the injuries

550
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Speaker 5: that you had.

551
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Speaker 4: Let Carl Lawson was not in camp. Carl.

552
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Speaker 5: Last we were looking at videos of Carl Lawson working out.

553
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Speaker 5: Fair to say, is just a guy. Yes, it's okay,

554
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 5: it's okay, it's okay.

555
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Speaker 4: Expect on him, there's no disrespect on him. But let's not.

556
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Speaker 4: Let's not Sam. Sam Willis didn't have the a somebody

557
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: gotta be back.

558
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Speaker 5: If and Kneeland didn't tear, you know, have his knee problems,

559
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Speaker 5: he wouldn't have been.

560
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Speaker 4: We wouldn't We wouldn't have had.

561
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Speaker 3: If you're depending on Carl, not depending on him. You know,

562
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Speaker 3: if you're depending on Carloston as a depth piece, that

563
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 3: is an indicator that you're not as good as you

564
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: need to be.

565
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Speaker 4: Everybody get better, everybody can get better. I'm just saying, like, come,

566
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Speaker 4: let's give them a little slack.

567
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: No, and not even be a cutthroat here. The fact

568
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 3: that you had to go get him and and the

569
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: other boy from Minnesota, Josh Right, showed you once again that.

570
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Speaker 5: He was a beat back then the right right, they're better,

571
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 5: Their best days were behind them.

572
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Speaker 3: And once again, you know something everybody else in the

573
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: league don't know because they're sitting out there.

574
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 4: The Cowboys have got to get better at that.

575
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: And if you're telling me one more time that you

576
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: bring it back, Lynn, Belle, Joseph and Carl lost that

577
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: you can't tell me that, and you and you're like,

578
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: it's gonna be hard to win it. It's gonna be

579
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: hard to win. And they they have got to get

580
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: better at the draft picks and you know, not having

581
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Speaker 3: the fourth round picks, they went out there mingo, that's

582
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Speaker 3: the thing that's gonna hurt you that where you needed

583
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Speaker 3: to get better there and you know, I'm this is

584
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: just the bare.

585
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Speaker 4: Facts up there, man.

586
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Speaker 3: Right now, it's just like you're looking at me like

587
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: there's a lot of questions that can't be answered in

588
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 3: one draft.

589
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Speaker 6: And then to add insult to injury, you have a

590
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 6: new coach, a new which would defensively now you're seemingly

591
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 6: in a new scheme where you are already struggling from

592
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 6: guys that couldn't learn the scheme that Zim had and

593
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 6: he had to revert back to DQ scheme and it

594
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 6: was all disjointed. I mean, so how do we how

595
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 6: do we come into this next season and say, oh,

596
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 6: we're gonna have a better one tech? Are we going

597
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 6: to say he's going to be better in his third year?

598
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: Now?

599
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Speaker 4: I got Mazie. Are we gonna say that?

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Speaker 2: Come on?

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Speaker 5: Now? I mean we say in the facts that when

602
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Speaker 5: you say we're not just one, two, three pieces away,

603
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Speaker 5: especially on your defensive line, you know you have a

604
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Speaker 5: ton of guys that were missing and a lack of talent.

605
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Speaker 6: One side of the football's got it, You've got to

606
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Speaker 6: make short one side is right. And if I'm shindy,

607
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 6: I'm making sure that offense is right because you have

608
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Speaker 6: more pieces on that offensive side than you do the

609
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Speaker 6: defensive side of ast me a twenty fourteen. All right, defensively,

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Speaker 6: you know we were I was out there, you know,

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Speaker 6: Sean Lee and then you had you know, George Selvis

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Speaker 6: and Nan Sea's like, we were a hoshpodge of defense.

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Speaker 6: But we knew that offensive side of the football was

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615
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Speaker 6: But you don't have And I'm so sad you that's

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Speaker 6: so instead of you know, like I said, instead of

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Speaker 3: Brian shot high head coach. On Monday, Matt Iberflus has

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Speaker 3: been named the defensive coordinator. The special teams coach is

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Speaker 3: the former forty nine ers d C from last year,

686
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Speaker 3: Nick Sourson. Defensive pass coordinator is Andre Curtis. He was

687
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Speaker 3: in Chicago with eber Flus. He was also interviewed as

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Speaker 3: the Rooney Rule candidate, so they could hire eber Flus

689
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Speaker 3: linebacker coaches Dave, Yeah, you had to, Yeah, you had to.

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Speaker 3: I mean Jill about to say, but Dave like Phonsie Barganzi,

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Speaker 3: Dave Borganzi who was here in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 3: So Church, you can go ahead and give us a

693
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Speaker 3: little lowdown on him. Defensive line coach Aaron White Cotton

694
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: from the Jets, and they are interviewing Clayton Adams, according

695
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Speaker 3: to Jonathan Jones of CBS Sports, as the offensive coordinator.

696
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 3: He's the old line coach in Arizona. So what can

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Speaker 3: you tell us about young Dave? Yes, Dave Burganhi. So

698
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Speaker 3: when I was here, Berganzi was. He was a part

699
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Speaker 3: of that Ryan crew. So I believe it not Rob?

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Speaker 4: Was it Rex? Yeah? Yeah? Rex? He was a rob. Yeah. Rob.

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Speaker 6: So he was a part of that that regime with

702
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Speaker 6: Flues and all those guys.

703
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Speaker 4: But when I was here, he was more of like

704
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Speaker 4: a quality control.

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Speaker 6: He was a guy that kind of held up the

706
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: scout cards, make sure everybody's doing they you know, things

707
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: on scout team, and I'm assumed he worked his way up.

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00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 6: So he was a young guy, energetic guy, you know,

709
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 6: got along with everybody in the in the linebacker.

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Speaker 4: Room that he was a part of.

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Speaker 6: Sean Lee spoke very highly of him when he was,

712
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 6: you know, working with our defenses.

713
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Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see what he got. But that's

714
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 4: a strong room. You gotta to me when he was here.

715
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,479
Speaker 4: This could have changed. This was you know, eight years ago.

716
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Speaker 4: It could have changed.

717
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: But he was very.

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Speaker 6: Similar to how I see kind of Kellen Morrish when

719
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Speaker 6: it's kind of like, oh yeah, guys, he ever, you know,

720
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Speaker 6: we're gonna do this. He wasn't a strong president. He

721
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Speaker 6: wasn't a strong presence, but that was back then. Like

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Speaker 6: I said, he was a quality control type guy. And

723
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Speaker 6: you know, you got to earn your stripes and I

724
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Speaker 6: get all that. So back then he was kind of,

725
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Speaker 6: you know, not the strong. He might have got some

726
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Speaker 6: like you know what, I can control this room because

727
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Speaker 6: when he wasn't a position coach back then, you know,

728
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Speaker 6: I ain't got your own room. You're telling grown men

729
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Speaker 6: what to do, so you gotta kind of say it

730
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Speaker 6: with your chest. And hopefully he's he's learned that over

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Speaker 6: the years.

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Speaker 4: We know that can go one or two ways.

733
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Speaker 7: It comes back to either you overcompensate for it and

734
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Speaker 7: now that you're saying it with your yest because people

735
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Speaker 7: have this preconceived notion of you to where you're like, yo,

736
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Speaker 7: it's not gonna work, or you can get your voice

737
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Speaker 7: to where it's like I'm still calm, collective and the

738
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Speaker 7: same guy. But get my point across.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask.

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Speaker 5: I had a question about the guy from Chicago. He's

741
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Speaker 5: the he was the dB coach for Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Andre Curtis.

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Speaker 5: Andre Curtis, it's the guy that the coach that gave

744
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Speaker 5: up the hell Mary to the commanders.

745
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Speaker 4: I understand me. It was his rule this game and

746
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Speaker 4: then the help.

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Speaker 3: Wow he was you know, can I give Andre a

748
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Speaker 3: little bit of nobody coaches at he is. Nobody goes

749
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Speaker 3: out there, hey man, get out here and go mess

750
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Speaker 3: with the crowd. Then when when the play happens, go

751
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Speaker 3: run do everything we tell you not to do.

752
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Speaker 4: To tip it up and lose the game. Yeah, he

753
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Speaker 4: doesn't coach that.

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Speaker 3: I'm so so, I mean, I know what you're saying, like, really,

755
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Speaker 3: oh you that guy that mean's a great question to

756
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Speaker 3: ask him.

757
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: When he's coming what what happened? We want to know.

758
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 5: And then because we needed that, we needed that, we

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Speaker 5: needed that hel help get fired.

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Speaker 3: So so yeah, was it a rookie that did that.

761
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Speaker 4: In the corner? Wasn't a rookie? I thought he was

762
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Speaker 4: the second year, second and third year about bor go

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Speaker 4: back to bor guns. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The last linebacker coach was Scott McCurry. A lot of

765
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: players here had a lot of issues with So my

766
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Speaker 3: my thought on that is, I don't know if it

767
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Speaker 3: get worse from what we've did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 6: I'm always you know, he can't get much worse to neck,

770
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Speaker 6: you know, put me on there was all right, nobody

771
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 6: ran out here said boy, I'm miss him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It was one of those that's a nice way

773
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Speaker 4: of saying it was a lot.

774
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Speaker 3: Of you didn't You didn't hear you, Michael Parson ain't

775
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Speaker 3: on the podcast say I'm miss him.

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Speaker 4: See that's and that's the thing. That's the thing.

777
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Speaker 3: But what do they not saying?

778
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Speaker 4: That's what.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Sometimes the things you don't say is the loudest

780
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 7: things in the room.

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00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: A good brother once.

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Speaker 5: Told, well, do you feel like ibra Flus When we

783
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Speaker 5: asked the question last week about being a what if

784
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Speaker 5: does his coach need to be more Romo Dak friendly

785
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 5: or or Michael friendly. Do you feel like ibra Flus

786
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 5: is is the defensive coordinator specifically for the talent.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he can handle it. Yeah, he's one of those guys.

788
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 6: He can handle the room. You know, he was in rooms,

789
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Speaker 6: you know, with d Wear with all those guys. He

790
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 6: can handle the talent and he can get the most

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Speaker 6: out of players.

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Speaker 4: He's an ex and O guy.

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Speaker 6: But he's also a guy that you know, will let

794
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Speaker 6: his players do what they gotta do, you know, to

795
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 6: get the most out of them. He's kind of He's

796
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Speaker 6: not a guy that's going to be like you gotta

797
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 6: be two yards outside dash at not but the football now,

798
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 6: he's gonna let you flow a little bit as long

799
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Speaker 6: as you're making plays. And from when I was here,

800
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 6: he held guys accountable. Now, you know, it was a

801
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 6: much older team we had back then, and you had

802
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 6: those leaders that also held players accountable. And that's the

803
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 6: that's the thing with this with this defense, it's real.

804
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: Young, but it's real young.

805
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Speaker 7: Not to overtalk you, but I can speak on that

806
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Speaker 7: because I also have Iberflus here at my tenure, and

807
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 7: when I was here, the defense was relatively pretty young.

808
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 7: I mean, you have a couple guys that have been

809
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 7: here established as far as Skandrick, but you had d

810
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Speaker 7: Law who was just kind of still emerging. Randy Grevgory

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Speaker 7: that really wasn't in the building, so even though it

812
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Speaker 7: was his fourth year, it was really like a rookie year,

813
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Speaker 7: so he was just not coming on the year. Afterwards,

814
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Speaker 7: you had Taco Charlton who was the first round pick

815
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Speaker 7: and deal had the strong personality that he had and

816
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Speaker 7: entitlement to where you had all type of different personalities,

817
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Speaker 7: a lot of young guys but a few older guys.

818
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Speaker 4: Kendrick you know how he is within his.

819
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Speaker 7: Own self, and Iberflus coached everybody from top to bottom.

820
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Speaker 4: It didn't matter.

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Speaker 7: Like I remember him specifically calling me out because I

822
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Speaker 7: wasn't supposed to be a guy that made the roster,

823
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Speaker 7: but he was like, yo, I'm not here for x's

824
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Speaker 7: and oo's. This is what we're going to do in technique.

825
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Speaker 7: But the most important thing that I need from y'all

826
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Speaker 7: is effort. Effort, effort, effort, and what d Moore is

827
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Speaker 7: giving me chasing to the ball and this and that.

828
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Speaker 7: Some of y'all better get ready because we got a

829
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Speaker 7: transfer rule, Taco. You think just because your first round

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Speaker 7: pick de long like we we we drive this competition

831
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Speaker 7: factor and so.

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Speaker 4: I bring that. I bring that to say that.

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Speaker 7: Mind you, we know that people don't talk the first

834
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Speaker 7: round picks like that in their first year. He single

835
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 7: handedly called this man out and said, no, you're gonna

836
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 7: play special team. You haven't earned the right to be

837
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 7: a starter on this team. So the best is going

838
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 7: to play. And that's what I.

839
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 4: Flew saw so excited he saw what he called it.

840
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: He said, you get your transfer paper quick.

841
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Speaker 3: So before we head out of here. Berries other teams

842
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville another coach, another coach tradition, Jacksonville, Prescoon was another coach.

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Speaker 3: Chris played a sound bite and Liam coach worse than

844
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Speaker 3: I even the first one, dude ball, He's like trying

845
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Speaker 3: to whisper.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, at the same time, I just can't do

847
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Speaker 4: the most politely aggressive thing and go on to the

848
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Speaker 4: Night and Tron.

849
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Speaker 3: They're gonna put you on the Titan.

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Speaker 4: Trawing and Duvall Jacksonville, you're gonna do vall, How can

851
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Speaker 4: you let him do that?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 7: Like your head coach has the embody, And that's what

854
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 7: we talked about with shoddy embody. What you're bringing to

855
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 7: the city and you're telling me that, Hey, for a

856
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 7: franchise that has been doing.

857
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: Bad, haven't been doing good? That defense in there. You

858
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Speaker 4: bring somebody in there that's cupcake. He's just you know what,

859
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: he's one of those He looks like a socially awkward guy.

860
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's not maybe not it's

861
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Speaker 4: not his his his ministry. Man. You know, it's the

862
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 4: question ones you got to watch it's to be a coach. No, no,

863
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: but he's probably like you know, it's probably good in

864
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Speaker 4: the room with Street.

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Speaker 7: So you're basically saying he's that nerdy guy that you

866
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 7: walk in there and when you're playing mad and you'll

867
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 7: be like, oh, I'm about to dog walk him, and

868
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Speaker 7: then all of a sudden he pulled everything out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The next thing is hearing Kellen Moore when he gets

871
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: named head coach.

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Speaker 6: Bro doing Kellen man do that killer got by the way.

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Speaker 6: But that next week, that next week, yeah, we got.

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Speaker 4: Right now speaking you know I know who you know

875
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 4: what you know what I was wrong. I was wrong.

876
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: The Eagles made it to the Super Bowl. Man, you weren't.

877
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: You didn't pick the n f C.

878
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: You picked the n f C East champion to go

879
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 3: face the can see the Chiefs and Super Bowl.

880
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Speaker 4: Did hurt young one, It hurts you, but it's all good.

881
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: I hate your good baby Many I'm not going.

882
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Speaker 7: I'm here, Hey, bttle friends, before this is over with.

883
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Speaker 7: He's got been talking all this trash. You know, I

884
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 7: was the new guy and I tried to let it

885
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Speaker 7: go before we end. He's been talking about this q

886
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Speaker 7: dog quarterback I.

887
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Speaker 4: Mean running back. I mean, I'm sorry, mister Schools in

888
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: his box that has how many times has he thrown

889
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 4: over two hundred in the last nine Gamespens September.

890
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Speaker 7: It's on the same hand, I can tell you that

891
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 7: I know the number, but I'm waiting for the fact

892
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Speaker 7: checker to take it.

893
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Speaker 3: But he's not.

894
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: But that's what that being said. So I hope, I hope.

895
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you like this, if your boy killing

896
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 7: our former teammate can do what he's been doing and

897
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 7: leaning on his tools, but do not try to go

898
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Speaker 7: out there and create a quarterback. Because you've seen him

899
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Speaker 7: make the comment, Oh, I feel like I got on

900
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Speaker 7: the straight jacket. Why would you say that? And you're

901
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Speaker 7: in the super Bowl. What ain't fixed, ain't broken, So

902
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Speaker 7: go ahead. I hope that he can be the quarterback

903
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Speaker 7: and he does what you say and put on. But

904
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Speaker 7: if he does not and do what everybody else is

905
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Speaker 7: thinking that he's gonna do, it's gonna be a bad

906
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Speaker 7: day for you. Buy Anthony Richardson to go ahead.

907
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Speaker 4: What ain't rich On? He plays? He plays at the

908
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Speaker 4: end of the season and doesn't count.

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