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Speaker 1: Title contenders? Who are they? How big is that bubble?

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Speaker 1: Here we go. We've got an entirely new game that

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Speaker 1: at conference championship games, maybe even a super Bowl, and

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Dude, Garrett Nussmeyer's about to win a super

430
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Speaker 1: Bowl Before fill in the blank. Guys that went much

431
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Speaker 1: higher than him, k Klubnick, Drew Aller, Carson Beck's a

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Speaker 1: guy I think probably a little bit closer to his

433
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Speaker 1: ceiling in terms of potential than those other guys. But like,

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Speaker 1: take Carson back, all right, if I dropped him in

435
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 1: a Seattle Seahawks type situation right now, there aren't many

436
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: of those, I'll grant you that, but if I were

437
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: to put him in that kind of environment, like, Carson

438
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Speaker 1: Beck could be a high level quarterback in the NFL

439
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Speaker 1: because of what he's being asked to do and what

440
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: he's not being asked to do. Luke Altmeyer like, what

441
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: could he be at the next level? Taylor Green in

442
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 1: the right offensive system, what could he be at the

443
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: next level? Baron Morton's on this list. Miller Moss is

444
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Speaker 1: on this list. Sawyer Robertson is on this list. There.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they would classify this quarterback draft.

446
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,959
Speaker 1: I would even go as far as to say they

447
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Speaker 1: probably don't look at it as a star studied quarterback class.

448
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: Fair enough, but I do think that's more fun for

449
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: people like me because that means there aren't as many

450
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Speaker 1: headline names that you're gonna hear on night one. That

451
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Speaker 1: does mean that there are names that you and I

452
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Speaker 1: are fluent in speaking the language of that are day

453
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Speaker 1: two and in some cases day three, which ironically gets

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Speaker 1: me more excited than you know talking about Fernando Mendoza

455
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Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. Again, all due respect to Fernando Mendoze.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I look at the draft. I don't

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Speaker 1: really look at it as fit. I noticed I didn't

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Speaker 1: mention a single NFL team outside of the Seahawks, and

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Speaker 1: that wasn't even about their draft specifically. I look at

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Speaker 1: it from a college perspective. Let's move on. Got a

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00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: question from Gadston Alabama, boy, they love Lincoln Riley, and

462
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Speaker 1: Gadsten he said, do you believe Lincoln Riley is the

463
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Speaker 1: right fit at USC? I find myself wondering if he

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Speaker 1: runs a program that can win a national title. I

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00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 1: still believe in Riley and his pivot on the defensive

466
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: side of the ball is encouraging. But I'm just wondering

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Speaker 1: your thoughts. USC feels like they're in that territory Miami

468
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Speaker 1: was in up until recently. I grew up, and when

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Speaker 1: I was a kid, Miami was dominant, So you don't

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Speaker 1: have to tell me about what Miami can be. When

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Speaker 1: I was a kid, USC was dominant, So you don't

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Speaker 1: have to tell me about what USC football can be.

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Speaker 1: So when Lincoln Riley went to USC, you didn't have

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Speaker 1: to tell me what could happen if he reignited that program.

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Speaker 1: But when I make the comparison to Miami, what I

476
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Speaker 1: mean is, obviously we've got a ton of high schooling,

477
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Speaker 1: like early college age folks who watched the show and

478
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: listen to the show. So let's say you're nineteen years

479
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Speaker 1: old right now. Sometimes it dawns on me the way

480
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Speaker 1: I look at a program's potential is not the way

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Speaker 1: that you look at a program's potential. If you're twenty

482
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Speaker 1: years old, you live in Joplin, Missouri, you haven't lived

483
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Speaker 1: coherently in a world where USC was dominant. You haven't

484
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Speaker 1: coherently lived in a world where Miami was dominant. You've

485
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Speaker 1: never taken them serious as national, perennially contending type programs.

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Speaker 1: So it's crazy to you when you listen to me

487
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Speaker 1: talk about a world where, once upon a time, at

488
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Speaker 1: any given point, respectively, those two programs were the most

489
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Speaker 1: feared in college football. But once upon a time, usc

490
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Speaker 1: was the most feared program in college football. It wasn't

491
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Speaker 1: just that, man, they're going to beat us, much like

492
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Speaker 1: Miami in their heyday. It was they're gonna embarrass us,

493
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Speaker 1: and guys, they didn't just do it and out of

494
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Speaker 1: conference early season games like they hung fifty five nineteen

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Speaker 1: on Oklahoma in a national championship game one year. So

496
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get back to that point, I'll grant you.

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Speaker 1: But the question was just do I think Lincoln Riley

498
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Speaker 1: can win a national title? He could win it by

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Speaker 1: one or one hundred. Can he win a national title?

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Speaker 1: I've shared my theory on Lincoln Riley here, I'll do

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Speaker 1: it once more. There's a non small part of me

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Speaker 1: that still believes in Lincoln Riley. Haven't sold my stock

503
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Speaker 1: on Lincoln Riley. Haven't given up on it. I know

504
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: some people have totally fine, I'm gonna hit that in

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Speaker 1: just a second. I'm gonna address that in just a second,

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Speaker 1: because there may even be some people and maybe you're

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Speaker 1: even a Southern cal fan who when you hired him

508
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Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. Oh, it was a huge story. It's one

509
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Speaker 1: of the biggest stories in the history of this show

510
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Speaker 1: is when Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma to go to us CE.

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Speaker 1: Just one of the bombshell stories of the decade. Okay,

512
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: when he went there, maybe you bought in, but then

513
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: maybe three years in you looked and you said, man

514
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: was fool's gold. It's just not going to happen. And

515
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: then maybe especially last year, you looked and you said nope, nope.

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Speaker 1: And then the Bowl Game, which I don't particularly care about,

517
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: but some people use it anecdotally just serve to further

518
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Speaker 1: validate your feeling that nope, they're never going to win it.

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00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: That's not where my head's out on Lincoln Riley, but

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00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: I do get if your head is there. My theory

521
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: on him is, let me try and put this in

522
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: the proper, the proper order. My theory on Lincoln Riley

523
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: has always been he's capable of winning a national championship.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't. Then my theory is also he got to

525
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: USC and basically committed a false start as a head coach.

526
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Speaker 1: He did not start the program out on the right trajectory.

527
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: They did not staff well, especially defensively, and therefore the

528
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Speaker 1: DNA of the program was beneath that of being championship caliber.

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Speaker 1: Then there's a critical moment a few years in where

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Speaker 1: he acknowledges the mistakes, he admits the mistakes, and he

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Speaker 1: tries to course correct. Now that's my theory that he

532
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: properly course corrected, But even proper course correction at that

533
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: point was going to require a minimum of two years

534
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: to really start to see results, Which brings us to

535
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Speaker 1: the year twenty twenty six. This is the year where,

536
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: if my theory is correct, Lincoln Riley's got to provide

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Speaker 1: some affirmation for me. Therefore, their season this year has

538
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: to provide some affirmation, or to state it more plainly,

539
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: for me to continue to believe in Lincoln Riley. They

540
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: got to be a playoff contender minimum this year. They

541
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Speaker 1: got to be a Big Ten title contender minimum this year.

542
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: And I know, if you've been watching college football recently,

543
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: that sounds really weird, Like, why would you be using

544
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: that kind of language about a program that hasn't even

545
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: made the playoff yet? What's because this is kind of

546
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: what they've built to So if you're a doubter in that,

547
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: it's a very weird spot for people like me because

548
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: people like me believe in Lincoln. But people like me

549
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: also have to look at the doubters and acknowledge that

550
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: you're totally valid in feeling the way you feel. Because

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00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: while I maintain hope, I completely get where people are

552
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: coming from who do not maintain hope because you're looking

553
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: at it and you're looking at what Kurt Signetty just

554
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: did at Indiana, and you're saying, if he can do

555
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: that at Indiana in year two, why in the world

556
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: would anyone need half a decade to do something similar

557
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: at the University of Southern California. I have no pushback

558
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: on that. It's a great point. I have no pushback

559
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: on that. My only pushback was when he hit the

560
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: when we had their great reset of USC football last winter,

561
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: I said, people have to make up their minds right now.

562
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: You have to make up your mind right now whether

563
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: you're willing to go along with this. If you're not

564
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: willing to go along with it, state your case now,

565
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: and you're just out on Lincoln Riley and USC and

566
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: he might as well be fired right now, which was

567
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: not reasonable, but it was a reasonable stance to have

568
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: if tens of millions of dollars worth of money wasn't involved.

569
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: But what I said was, if you're like me and

570
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: you do feel like he is sincere, and you do

571
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: feel like this reset is sincere, you've got to take

572
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: the added step of admitting I'm willing to give him

573
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years, because if you were just willing

574
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Speaker 1: to give him six games, that's not how a reset works.

575
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: So this is the kind of year where I got

576
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: to see it from them, and there's no reason that

577
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be in the mix. They got a third

578
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: year quarterback, They've got four or five returning on the

579
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: offensive line. I kind of low key love their secondary.

580
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: If anything, the biggest questions on that team may be

581
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: defensive line, but it may be wide receiver. And you know,

582
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone would blame me if I kind

583
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: of just blindly trust Lincoln Riley's ability at wide receiver

584
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: to get enough production there so at the end, yes,

585
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: I do still feel like Lincoln Riley can win a

586
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: national championship. He would be in my bubble, he would

587
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: be in my survivor bubble. Just because he hasn't doesn't

588
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: mean he can't. And I also want to say, like, yes,

589
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: some times people say so and so can't do something

590
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: just because they hate that so and so so. Lincoln

591
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: Riley has got a lot of detractors. Lincoln Riley's got

592
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people who cast permanent judgment on him

593
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: because of the way he left Oklahoma, and right or wrong,

594
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of belief out there that he ducked

595
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: competing in the SEC. The reason people say that is

596
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: because he was rumored to be tied to LSU and

597
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you find out, oh, Lincoln

598
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: Riley is leaving Oklahoma, but he's going to USC which

599
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: at the time was in the PAC twelve. And so

600
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: the perception, which of course he would push back on,

601
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: but the perception exists nonetheless, that he tried to duck competition.

602
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: Then lowel behold, he's sucked into Big ten. Anyway, people

603
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: feel like that, and anyone who feels like that's going

604
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: to doubt Lincoln Riley. No matter what what I'm saying is,

605
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: you don't have to have an axe to grind against

606
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. There's a lot of valid, just legit criticism.

607
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot of legitimate, logic based reason to doubt,

608
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: not part of the doubter camp. Yet, that's all I'm saying.

609
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Let's roll on. I think the best thing for everyone

610
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: to do is just calm down and take a chance

611
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: on love. To roll the dice on love. You know what,

612
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,239
Speaker 1: make a note Jesse. Probably don't have time for it

613
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: this year, seeing is hour four days from Valentine's but

614
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: that would be a good T shirt idea next year.

615
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: Listen to me. Every one of you has a heart.

616
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: I know good and well you do. Therefore, every one

617
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: of you should at least give a cursory glance to

618
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: the Valentine's Day collection over at peytstatematerial dot com. These

619
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: things are beautiful, especially the Hugging and Chuggin collection, which

620
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: is not a collection, it's just it's a hat and

621
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: we got some shirts. But Huggin and Chugging is a

622
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: great great Valentine's motto for us here at Pate State.

623
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: Also the Peate State logo with the heart and the

624
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: arrow through it, I think is very very solid design work.

625
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: So you can go there right now. Valentine's Day collection

626
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Peytstatematerial dot Com as I said the other day, And

627
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: it takes a big man to endorse his own store,

628
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it. As I said the other day,

629
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: I would wear this stuff after Valentine's Day. That's however,

630
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: green the spirit of these items, not merch of these

631
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: items are even by Bradley One. All right, let's move on.

632
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: So we played the game earlier in the show, which

633
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: I think was a dangerous game. Not the most dangerous game,

634
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: but a dangerous game. Nonetheless, Carlos from Hickory, North Carolina

635
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: hit us up and he said, Penn State and Clemson

636
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: an LSU, those were all preseason top tens last year

637
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: and they completely had the bottom fallout. We all remember, Carlos,

638
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: We all remember, brother. He continues, who are the three

639
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: teams this upcoming season that basically just have disaster thrust

640
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: upon them? Well, if you're asking me for three top

641
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: ten teams that are gonna fin unranked, Jesse, did all

642
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: of those teams finish unranked? They all finished outside the

643
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: top twenty five. That's tough to do. But I assume

644
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: that the basis of the question is it's going to

645
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: happen somewhere. So obviously we got to shave the list

646
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: down a little bit. And for the sake of argument,

647
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: like we could go over to on three dot com.

648
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: We could look at the preseason top ten that they compiled.

649
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: We could look at the top ten list that I compiled.

650
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: They're basically similar, Like everyone's top ten is roughly similar

651
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: right now. So if we're asking, and I want to

652
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: very very very clearly preface this is no prediction from me.

653
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: The whole nature of this stuff is it's impossible to

654
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: see that coming. Hey, I'm sitting here in February of

655
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I still don't regret my preseason rankings

656
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty five. I had every reason to have

657
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: Clems in top ten. There was every reason to have

658
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: Penn State top ten. It's just stuff happened. Things went

659
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: off the rails. What if Penn State wins the Oregon

660
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: game it went to overtime. What if they win the game,

661
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: I highly doubt the rest of their season goes the

662
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: way it did. So anyway, like sometimes the parameters are

663
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: in place and it just doesn't come to fruition. Sometimes

664
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: the ingredients are in the kitchen and the meal still sucks,

665
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: is what it is. But when you're doing preseason rankings,

666
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: all you have to go on is the ingredients. You

667
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: don't know how the meal is gonna turn out. It's

668
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: just your best guess. So I have no regrets about

669
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: last year, but this year, like Notre Dame's clearly going

670
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: to be a top ten team. If you're trying to

671
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: find the high risk teams, man, I guess I could

672
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: throw Notre Dame at you because I guess the premise

673
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame being my preseason number one. I mean

674
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: I had them number one the other day. So no

675
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: one's higher on Notre Dame than me. It's impossible, but

676
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: if you told me there are gonna be top ten

677
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: teams that finish unranked, I guess my premise for having

678
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: Notre Dame number one is I believe they finished last

679
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: year as a top ten caliber team. They didn't make

680
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: the playoff, but I would have power rated them way

681
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: up there. I think I had them six or something

682
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: like that. So if my premise is they finished that

683
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: lofty and that they're kind of picking up where they

684
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: left off and they're maybe even a little bit better

685
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: because they're more experienced at quarterback. That's all well and

686
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: good as long as I'm right. What if I'm wrong

687
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: about the caliber of team they were when they finished

688
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: the season. Theoretically, my entire premise could be built on

689
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: a lie. What if they were only pretty good to

690
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: end the year but we didn't know it because they

691
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: didn't face the caliber of opponent that it would take

692
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: to expose them. I guess theoretically that could happen, But

693
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: look at Notre Dame schedule. Even if that is the case,

694
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: who's going to expose them? Now? I do know we

695
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: went down this road with Penn State last year, Like

696
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: we said, Oh, Penn State's the safest bet to make

697
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: the playoff. How would they ever lose more than two games? Yeah?

698
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: But Notre Dame schedule is easier than Penn States was

699
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: last year. There is no organ on this thing. The

700
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: closest they get is they play Miami at home in November.

701
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Other than that, that's just it would really, really really

702
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: have to go sideways for Notre Dame to lose. I

703
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: guess that have to lose minimum of three, if not four,

704
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: games to finish unranked. I don't know how in the

705
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: world they lose four games, but this is a tough

706
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: game to play. Georgia would be another one that I

707
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: would throw at you. That's a little easier with a

708
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: team like Georgia, not because I think they're going to

709
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: be a bad team. I'll have them preseason top ten too.

710
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 1: But if you're telling me the bottom is going to

711
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: fall out for someone, it could theoretically be that Georgia

712
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: last year goes eleven and one, and that's how we

713
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: remember them. They win the SEC championship and they go

714
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, and that's how we remember that team. Therefore,

715
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 1: where they left off last year, it's pretty conventional rankings

716
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: wisdom to think, all right, well, I'll just start them

717
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: kind of where they left off. So Georgia is going

718
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: to be a preseason top ten. Yes, technically, there's a

719
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: world where Georgia goes like eight and four this year

720
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: and it shocks everybody. But then in retrospect, when you're

721
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what happened, you look back on

722
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: two five and you say, huh, I know they went

723
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: eleven and one, but you know, maybe they weren't nearly

724
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: as good as their record said they were. Maybe I

725
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: should have played paid closer attention to the fact that

726
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: Auburn stoned him in the first half and they had

727
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: to go to overtime to beat Tennessee, and they beat

728
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: Florida by four points, and Ole Miss led them by

729
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: what one or two possessions I think an eight point

730
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: game or something like that in the second half in Athens,

731
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: and they had to come from behind to beat them.

732
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, they were eleven and one. They could have

733
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: been eight and four last year. Maybe it shouldn't shot

734
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: me that they just went eight and four this year.

735
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: And the difference with Georgia is Georgia's got to play

736
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: Bama and at Auburn and ol Miss in Florida and Oklahoma,

737
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: they got a play tough competition more frequently they go

738
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: to Old Miss late in the year, I go South

739
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: Carolina got Missouri in there. So yeah, I guess it

740
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: could happen with Georgia again, not predicting it to happen.

741
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: And I'd say the same thing about Texas. The Texas

742
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: will be everyone's preseason top three. I would assume minimum

743
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: think I had them up there too. Texas could lose

744
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: really early. They could lose week one or week two

745
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: this year when they play Ohio State, because that's kind

746
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: of what happened with some of these teams last year.

747
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: Clemson lost in Week one, LSU ended up losing early,

748
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: Penn State loses the Oregon game, so they have early

749
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: losses and they can't rebound from them. Well, Texas could

750
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: lose in Week two and then they go to Tennessee

751
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: in Week four, and then they got ou after the

752
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: bye week in Dallas. But they've got Florida, they got

753
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: Old miss They go to Missouri and LSU back to back.

754
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: They go to A and M. They got three or

755
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: four on the road to end the year. And I

756
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: know they upgraded it running back, and I know they

757
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: upgraded at wide receiver, and it's a total title or

758
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: bust mentality there. What if their offensive line can't protect

759
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: any better than they did last year? What if I

760
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: just say that could theoretically be a world where you

761
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: got three losses and remember Penn State last year, Yes,

762
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: it was title or bust. The trade off there is

763
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: when they lost early, mentally, the entire thing came up unravel.

764
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't expect that to happen at Texas. But if

765
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: it was gonna happen to someone, Texas would be one

766
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: of like three teams that it could happen to. I

767
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: mean most most teams don't have title or bust expectations,

768
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: So the potential pool of candidates for that's extremely small.

769
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: Any given year, they're watching us in Charlottesville, Virginia, Lawton, Oklahoma,

770
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: Jasper Tennessee. Appreciate you guys so much. Speaking of law

771
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. Kind of a semi close tie in to

772
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: my answer to this question. We had a friend of

773
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: the program from Cleveland, Ohio hit us in the mail bag.

774
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: He said, what's the biggest story that no one's talking

775
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: about going in the next season to keep our eye on.

776
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: I think it has a lot to do with hiring.

777
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: I thought about this. I could go on the field

778
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that. We got six months until

779
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: the season kicks off. I'll tell you what it really

780
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: is right now. It's hiring a University of Oklahoma to

781
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: be specific. I know most of you didn't follow the

782
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Athletic director search. Jokestig, longtime friend of the program, retired,

783
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: and they had sort of a true nationwide search for

784
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: his replacement, and they hired Roger Denny. Most of you

785
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: are saying, hoopst. Roger Denny, he was the deputy ad

786
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: at Illinois, and most of you are still saying hoomst.

787
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: There are a lot of Illinois fans who didn't know

788
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: who Roger Denny was. That's okay. In a perfect world,

789
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: your deputy athletics director probably isn't well known. It means

790
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: he's doing his job at a high level. The reason

791
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: I say that this is a big story no one's

792
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: talking about is because I think even if you don't

793
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: care about the hire of athletic director at Oklahoma, what

794
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: you probably do care about is college football and the

795
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: health of college football. And anytime that you have a

796
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: problem with college football and you're talking to your buddies

797
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: over lunch at a barbecue joint somewhere, it probably doesn't

798
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: take you too long to say something like, man, leadership

799
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: sucks in college football. Man, the people who are driving

800
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: the bus in college football have no clue what they're doing.

801
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: And you have good reason to say that, because case

802
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: by case, there are a lot of cases you're right.

803
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: It probably wouldn't shock you to know that a lot

804
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: of people who have athletic director jobs in college football

805
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: are ill equipped to be athletic directors in twenty twenty six.

806
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: They may have been perfectly equipped in twenty sixteen or

807
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, but see, the skill set needed

808
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: to be an athletic director in twenty twenty six is

809
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: different than it was ten years ago, just like the

810
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: skill set to be a head coach in twenty twenty

811
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: six is different than it was ten years ago. Now

812
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: you and I and everyone can watch and see how

813
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: the game may have evolved or devolved and sort of

814
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: moved itself out of the wheelhouse. I think about Dabo Sweeney.

815
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: Dabo Swenny was perfectly cut out to win championships ten

816
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: years ago. Dabo Sweeney has struggled mightily to adapt to

817
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: the new world. Hey, he's got good reason. The new

818
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: world kind of sucks in a lot of ways, so

819
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: I don't even blame him, but he's failed to adapt well.

820
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: When it comes to a coach, it's easy to see

821
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: because you see it on the field every week. How

822
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: is a fan in el Reno, Oklahoma really supposed to

823
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: gauge the success rate of his athletic director or know

824
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: when they've properly or improperly hired at ad you probably don't.

825
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: This is the beauty slash horror of what has led

826
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: to a lot of ineffective decision making in leadership in

827
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: college football. Not to be clear, I loved the guy

828
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 1: that was in the eighties chair at Oklahoma, Jokistigliom. Thought

829
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: he was one of the best in the game. He retired,

830
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: which was the reason the job was open. So I'm

831
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: speaking very generally instead of specifically here. Most of the

832
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: time you don't really have a good feel for the

833
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: job an athletic director is doing much less. Do you

834
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: have a feel for his roles in duties or her

835
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: roles and duties. And the reason this is a big

836
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: story right now is because there's this big sort of

837
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 1: circular logic void in college athletics. Since it kind of

838
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: sounds something like this, Since there's very very little transparency,

839
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: since the public at large has very little clue what

840
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: we're doing behind the scenes, we can just afford to

841
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: maintain the same incestuous, failed practices that we always have.

842
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: And you scratch my back and I'll scratch your back,

843
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: and neither one of us hit the edge. But that's okay,

844
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: because we'll just keep scratching each other's back. We're just

845
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: not going to let anyone else in the room who

846
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: has actual fingernails, because then if they come in the

847
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: room and they actually show, oh, I could scratch both

848
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: of your backs, we may be out of a job.

849
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: I've just described the majority of the college football rot

850
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: that exists not just in college football but all levels

851
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: of collegiate athletics. Right now, there's not nearly as much

852
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: transparency as there is in the pro game, and so

853
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: as a result, you get a lot of glad handing

854
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: and backslapping and good old boying, and you got guys

855
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: and girls who have jobs they have no business having.

856
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: So why is this a big story at Oklahoma. Well,

857
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: it's because I happen to think Oklahoma killed it on

858
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: the hire. I think that that was validated when I

859
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: started to get feedback from a lot of people. Some

860
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: of them are peers of Roger Denny. Some of them

861
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: are sort of in the infrastructure that has maintained their

862
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: legitimacy through making sure the chaos goes unchecked. There are

863
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: a lot of beneficiaries of sort of that incestuous, failed

864
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: practice of hiring at all levels of college athletics. Because

865
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: of those people hating on the hire of Roger Denny,

866
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: my antenna went up, and that is why I started

867
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: asking more questions about Roger Denny. Because you get one

868
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: person who says, man, Oklahoma kind of just whiffed on

869
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: the ad hire. That's fine. When you get about half

870
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: a dozen people who say that and they're specifically seeking

871
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: you out to say it, then you start to realize, uh, oh,

872
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: we got a table full of middle school girls over here,

873
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: and they're all telling me the new girl in town

874
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: is terrible. I might need to look into the new

875
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: girl in town. She may be terrible, or she may

876
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: be a threat. Roger Denny. I don't think it's terrible.

877
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: I think he's a threat to the very existence of

878
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: a lot of these people. A lot of these folks,

879
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: whether it be a search firm member or whether it

880
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: be a sitting ad, but especially sitting ads. A lot

881
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: of these people they outsource their decision making your jobs

882
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: to make decisions, and in a lot of cases, I mean,

883
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: when you're talking about licensing deals, when you're talking about

884
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: revenue sharing, when you're talking about very very nuanced, complex

885
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: legal terminology, and the legal landscape, the media rights landscape.

886
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: This is not the wheelhouse of a former head coach

887
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: or player who rose to the level of athletic director.

888
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: God bless them. I probably loved them as a former

889
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: coach or a former player. They're not of this world.

890
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: Fifteen years ago, you didn't need to be. Now you

891
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: do need to be. Roger Denny. You go look at

892
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: his background pre Illinois and you can see he swam

893
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: in these waters for a long time. I think Oklahoma

894
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: was pretty overthinking with how they hired him and that

895
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: they hired him, And I think it threatens a lot

896
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: of other people who know deep down when they lay

897
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: their head on their pillow at night, I'm ill equipped

898
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: to have the job I have, But that's okay. I

899
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: won't be exposed as long as everyone else has no

900
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: clue what they're doing. The worst thing to happen for

901
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: someone who has no clue what they're doing and who

902
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: is ill equipped to hold their current job is when

903
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: one of the peer positions opens and someone who is

904
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: equipped to have the job gets the job. It's a

905
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: very scary thing. It's a very scary thing. This is

906
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: something to pay attention to because this can happen in

907
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: ad hires, this can happen in coaching hires. And I

908
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: would just tell you I don't know Roger Denny. I've

909
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: never met him in my life. Maybe when we go

910
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: out to norm in this spring slash, if we do,

911
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: I will But in the meantime, I'm just telling you

912
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: from a distance, I think I love the move Oklahoma

913
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: just made. I'm pretty sure I love it. Now we

914
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: got we got to do our own background check on

915
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: Roger Denny. We got to go make sure he checks

916
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: the boxes. So you know, we need we need to

917
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: look him in the eye ourselves. But I kind of

918
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: think I like what Oklahoma did. We'll see because you know,

919
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: the ultimate the ultimate deal is is Oklahoma well positioned

920
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: for the future. Does Oklahoma end up winning on and

921
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: off of the field long term? That's really what we'll

922
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: decide that. I just think they better positioned themselves to

923
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: do that. That's all I'm saying. Back to matters on

924
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: the field, we had another question about scheduling that I

925
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: thought we should dedicate a couple of minutes to here,

926
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: Mike from Inola, Pa Jesse, You ever been there Inola?

927
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: Beautiful part of the country. Oh wow, Okay, well some

928
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: kind of statesman, Jesse is he said, what team or

929
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: which team has the toughest schedule in your opinion? Now, Mike,

930
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: as you may or may not know, we do sort

931
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: of like a forensic audit of this every spring, but

932
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: we haven't done it yet. So right now I have

933
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: to use the good old fashioned eyeball test to see

934
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: who we think has the toughest schedule. It's probably gonna

935
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: come from the Big Ten or the SEC. Just just

936
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 1: stating facts here. I guess I could say Florida State

937
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: could be in this group if I were gonna go,

938
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: maybe a non SEC or Big Ten, but it's all

939
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: SEC Big ten teams to me. In the SEC, I

940
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: think Texas has a pretty tough schedule Texas. Texas has

941
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: got a pretty tough schedule here because they play Ohio

942
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: State on top of an SEC nine game league schedule,

943
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: and their first four weeks they got Buckeyes and then

944
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: at Tennessee. So they could go into that bye week

945
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: they could be two and two, they could be four

946
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: and oh or they could be three and one and bleeding.

947
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: But then they got ou coming out of that bye week.

948
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, there are no more buys after that.

949
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: So Texas finishes with eight in a row, and they

950
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: got OU in Dallas and Florida and Ole miss coming

951
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: out of that bye week, and then they wrap up

952
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: the season at Missouri, at LSU back to back road

953
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: games Arkansas, and then at A and M three of

954
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: four on the road in November to end things. And

955
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: you remember how shaky Texas was on the road last year.

956
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: So I think that's a tough schedule. But I think

957
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's got a tough schedule too. Oklahoma, just like Texas,

958
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: plays a huge, big ten out of conference opponent in

959
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks when they go to Michigan

960
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: in week two. They go to Georgia in week four.

961
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: So by the time OU gets to their bye week,

962
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: they will have already played in Ann Arbor and Athens,

963
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: and then they got to go to Dallas to play

964
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: Texas coming out of the bye week. Look at their

965
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: final five games, because they got to play eight in

966
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: a row to finish the year too. Their final five,

967
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: it's South Carolina and then at Florida, and those are

968
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: two total wildcard teams, could be five win teams, could

969
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: be nine win teams, and neither would really surprise me,

970
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: but Ole miss A and m at Missouri back to

971
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: back to back, and really those five games back to

972
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: back to back to back to back, it just makes

973
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: it a really really tough finish to the season and

974
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: then over into Big Ten. Look, I it's very hard

975
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: for Ohio State to ever have the toughest schedule in

976
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: the Big Ten because Ohio State's normally one of, if

977
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: not the best teams in the Big Ten, and it's

978
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: impossible for them to play themselves. So it's very hard

979
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: for Ohio State to have an overly tough schedule. This year,

980
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State has an insanely tough schedule and they're not

981
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: even on their schedule, but I'll tell you who is

982
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 1: Texas and they got to go there in week two.

983
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: And then you add in the fact that they play

984
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: at Indiana, at USC, at Nebraska, at Iowa, and they're

985
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: throwing Oregon and Michigan into the mix coming to Columbus.

986
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: This is a really, really difficult schedule. It's the most

987
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: difficult Ohio State schedule that I remember in several years,

988
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: to the point where I know it's early. That's the

989
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: kind of team, that's the kind of schedule that makes

990
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: you start saying, I could see a three loss Ohio

991
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: State being inn You guys wanted to expand the playoff,

992
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 1: not me. I'm just telling you because of the expanded playoff,

993
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: that's the kind of conversation that could exist around the now. Arkansas.

994
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: Just to swerve back over here, to swerve bro for

995
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: just a second, to the SEC. This is an annual tradition.

996
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: Anybody who lives in Arkansas, anybody who's an Arkansas fan. Yes, yes,

997
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: we all kind of suffer together here because you've got death,

998
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: you've got taxes, and then you've got the SEC League

999
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: office just putting a branding iron on Arkansas's face every

1000
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: year when it comes to scheduling. But here's the thing,

1001
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 1: how can I get mad at the league office when

1002
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: someone in Arkansas's own building said, Hey, let's go to

1003
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City this year, let's play at Utah in

1004
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: week two. You're gonna tell me they're playing Utah and

1005
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: Georgia back to back. That's a real thing that's happening

1006
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: this year. Okay, So they go to Utah, then they

1007
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: got Georgia, they go to A and M. A couple

1008
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: of weeks later, utter brutality. They've got Tennessee, They've got

1009
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: at Vandy, SO at A and M. Tennessee at Vandy

1010
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: is back to back to back, and their final five

1011
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: games are Missouri at Auburn, South Carolina at Texas LSU.

1012
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: And I keep repeating, this is a one by week year,

1013
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: so there aren't two reprieves. So there are several of

1014
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: these SEC and Big Ten schedules where someone's just got

1015
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: to rattle off like eight games in a row and

1016
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: there's no You'll also notice there's no FCS team in there,

1017
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: like there's no cupcake, there's no break, there's no time

1018
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: to breathe. But none of it, to me is as

1019
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: bad as Northwestern. This is the Northwestern Memorial Show, even

1020
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: though they're still alive for now because they play South

1021
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: Dakota State in Week one, then they get a bye

1022
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: much needed break in early September, and then the Big

1023
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 1: Ten has scene fit to make Northwestern death march their

1024
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: way to eleven consecutive games to close the season. They

1025
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: play at Indiana, they play at Oregon, they play at

1026
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State. They play Penn State at home. They play

1027
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: Iowa at home, they play Illinois at home. They're gonna

1028
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: mix Colorado in there and out of conference play. I

1029
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: didn't even mention just at Minnesota in late November. They've

1030
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: got Illinois at home to end the year. Illinois is

1031
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: a good team. You get half a dozen opponents deep

1032
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: on Northwestern schedule, you haven't even mentioned Illinois yet, and

1033
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: that'll be their eleventh game in a row. God blessed Northwestern.

1034
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,959
Speaker 1: There's not much to say. We said all we needed

1035
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: to say on that. The other day, Let's move on.

1036
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 1: Earl from Houston asked a question that I can answer

1037
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. He said, would you ever consider doing play

1038
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: by play or color commentary on Saturday. No, I wouldn't

1039
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: because I don't think I'm qualified to do it and

1040
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody should be offering me that job,

1041
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: and by the way, they haven't. The only thing I

1042
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: love doing, Earl, is I love watching games and I

1043
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: love talking about them. And the only rub that I

1044
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: ever want on broadcasts is doing what we did during

1045
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game, because that was awesome and huge.

1046
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 1: Thanks to ESPN and Pat McAfee and the crew there

1047
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,320
Speaker 1: for letting us do the altcast and that was great.

1048
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: Me Will Compton, Taylor Lawan, Harry Douglas. We're just standing

1049
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: on the field basically having our own show during the game,

1050
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: and we're just talking through the game. Now, that's fun,

1051
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: But to be doing what Sean McDonough is doing, there's

1052
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: ever a world where Sean McDonough and I are doing

1053
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: the same job, We've badly gone off the rails. If

1054
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: there's ever a world where Lewis Rittick and I are

1055
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: doing the same job on Saturday, we have completely lost

1056
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: the plot when it comes to college football broadcast coverage. So,

1057
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of opportunities that we've

1058
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: had because of the partnership with ESPN and even before

1059
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: that at CBS, where we've gotten to do sort of

1060
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: shoulder I call it shoulder content in conjunction with game broadcasts.

1061
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: I love that, and I love doing this show first

1062
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: and foremost, and I'm all for all that, and I'm

1063
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: all for doing the alt cast concept. I love that too.

1064
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Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap up with this. It's a helpy

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Speaker 1: exercise that we do the mood trackers. Back tonight, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about Texas. The mood tracker

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Speaker 1: is very simple. We take the most positive and negative

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00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: minded portions of the fan base and we respectfully ask

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Speaker 1: them to sit this one out and we're left with

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Speaker 1: like the middle eighty or so percent of a fan

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Speaker 1: in this case, it's Texas, And what we want to

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Speaker 1: do is we want to identify the mood of that

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Speaker 1: talk about why they feel that way. What do you

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Speaker 1: think the mood is amongst Texas fans right now, because

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Speaker 1: this one is simple to me. It's a term that

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Speaker 1: gets overused. It's a phrase that gets overused, but not here.

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Speaker 1: It fits here. The Texas mood very simply is championship

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Speaker 1: or bust. Many many fan bases say that, and they shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Texas fans can rightfully say that. This year, Steve Sarkusan

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Speaker 1: is entering his sixth year, so the entire program has

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Speaker 1: long since become a reflection of him and him alone.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember this time last spring? This time last spring,

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Speaker 1: sark himself was on the show and he said, this

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Speaker 1: year and the years to come, you know, those are

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Speaker 1: kind of the periods we've been building for. Everything in

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Speaker 1: the building is how we want it, everything about the personnel,

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Speaker 1: it's our way of doing things. All the systems are

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Speaker 1: in place. Everything is Texas football the way we wanted

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Speaker 1: to find Texas football. Well, they missed the playoff last year,

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Speaker 1: so if they were to atone for that with a

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Speaker 1: title this year, no one cares about last year. That

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Speaker 1: was just a step, that was just another rung on

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Speaker 1: the ladder. But I think sometimes, really most of the time,

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Speaker 1: when fan bases have a title or bust mentality, it's

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Speaker 1: not fair. They're heaping disproportionate expectations on a situation, thinking

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Speaker 1: that they can just expect their way to a title. No,

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Speaker 1: Texas should be in a position to compete for a

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Speaker 1: title this year. And you got to give several hat tips.

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Speaker 1: You got a hat tip, Sark, You got a hat

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Speaker 1: tip Brandon Harris and his entire department over there in

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Speaker 1: the player personnel world, the nil world for putting together

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Speaker 1: I think pound for pound maybe the best portal haul

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Speaker 1: out of anyone. I know. The on three rankings would

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Speaker 1: have them stacked maybe a little bit differ diferently, but

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Speaker 1: when you go pound for pound based on need, Texas

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Speaker 1: just utterly killed it. And they always recruit very well,

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Speaker 1: so you're stacking that on top of recruiting. And I look,

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Speaker 1: we were browsing earlier today just kind of trying to

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Speaker 1: get a sense, kind of get a vibe check of Texas.

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Speaker 1: RT Young over at Inside Texas had written a really

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Speaker 1: good column about the expectations there, and he was talking

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Speaker 1: about the season ticket renewals that had been sent out,

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Speaker 1: and Texas kind of puts the slogan into the mailer,

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Speaker 1: into the mailer that they send you to renew your

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Speaker 1: season tickets, and that slogan for this year was nothing

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Speaker 1: less than legendary. I guess that could have been the mood.

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Speaker 1: As it turns out. I don't want to steal though,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, legendary at Texas means you're winning a national championship.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you bow out in the corner finals

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Speaker 1: and they call that legendary. I just don't think that's

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Speaker 1: how the mood would go down there. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to be perfect. So Ohio State two years ago changed everything.

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Speaker 1: iiO State two years ago was this loaded team. It

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Speaker 1: was this loaded program that freely admitted it's a championship

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Speaker 1: or bust year for us. We were there in the spring.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to Mark Pantonio in the spring. I

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Speaker 1: was talking to or Mark Pantoni. Not Pantonio's talking to

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day in the spring. And it was sort of

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Speaker 1: an off the record moment at that point. But they

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Speaker 1: were adamant we're all in on this season. We were

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Speaker 1: as all in as you could be, and they won

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Speaker 1: a national title. That's how history remembers it. But history

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Speaker 1: needs to also remember, yeah, they barely made the playoff.

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Speaker 1: They lost their final game. That was their second loss,

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Speaker 1: they were a flawed team. Only because of the playoff

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Speaker 1: expanded did they get in the playoff, and once they

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Speaker 1: got in they peaked. Well. The lesson there is you

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Speaker 1: just got to make sure you're in good enough position.

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Speaker 1: That's part one and part two is peak at the

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Speaker 1: right time. That's what Texas has to be able to do.

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Speaker 1: But in the event that this doesn't happen, like in

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Speaker 1: the event that somehow maybe they underachieve, or maybe their

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Speaker 1: schedule just really is as tough as we think it'll

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Speaker 1: be and they have a lot of close losses. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they're fourteenth this year, fifteenth this year. Think about how

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Speaker 1: the arch Manning era would be remembered. That would be

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Speaker 1: one of the craziest, weirdest times in the history of

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Speaker 1: college football. Because you'd be looking back on a guy

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Speaker 1: be looking at a guy shore fire first rounder in

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Speaker 1: the draft. Therefore, he lived up to his five star billing,

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Speaker 1: and he was never out for a significant period of time,

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Speaker 1: we're assuming, and yet Texas never even made the playoff

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Speaker 1: with him as their starting quarterback. That would be one

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Speaker 1: of the bigger indictments in the history of high level

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Speaker 1: college football. You can't have that. You can't even be

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Speaker 1: missing out on the fourteen playoff if you've got that

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Speaker 1: kind of caliber order back multiple years starting for you,

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Speaker 1: much less missing out twice on the twelve teamer championship

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Speaker 1: or bust titl er bust mentality. That's the mood at

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Speaker 1: Texas this year. My mood is I'm hungry, so we

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Speaker 1: need to wrap the show so we can go eat.

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Speaker 1: And my mood is also to request humbly that you

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Speaker 1: the YouTube channel, and a lot of you listen on

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Speaker 1: podcast exclusively, which is fine. Keep doing whatever you do.

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Speaker 1: I just appreciate that you consume the show. Do me

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Speaker 1: right back out. Appreciate you, guys. I may drop a podcast,

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Speaker 1: sort one of those Pate State Extra episodes, which is

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Speaker 1: podcast only. I may drop one of those later this week.

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Speaker 1: The schedule is kind of weird. I got to go

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Speaker 1: over to Arkansas. I get to go over to Arkansas

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Speaker 1: for the Royals Award. Look forward to that every year,

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Speaker 1: and so I may drop you one on Thursday or Friday.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for that. Otherwise we will be back Sunday.

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Speaker 1: That's when our next full live show will be. So

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys so much. Until next time. For

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