WEBVTT - Do You Trust ChatGPT and Artificial Intelligence? 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.400 I'm Honey German. My parents are Dominican. I was born 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.800 and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:14.840 I'm a body positive advoicate. I'm Carolina Bermudez, but I 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.400 was born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama, 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:23.160 and a worker bee. This is life in Spanglish. Well, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.800 I'm going to kick things off today and say this, Um, 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.280 this is probably one of the only topics that has 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.680 Honey German and I so completely divided. I feel like 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.160 this is always the case, but this time I feel 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:38.800 like this one. You're in another country right now, Carolyne, No, 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:43.519 this one is I mean this one because I am like, 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:48.000 I can't believe you, of all people are embracing this 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.800 and you are on board. I have never been more 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.720 against something. And by the way, I will tell you, Honey, 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:57.920 my husband tells me I need to get with the times. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:03.880 So thank you. Mark. Listen, we're talking about chat, GPT 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:10.720 and AI as a whole, and Carolina, this is a big, big, 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.319 big deal. Like I don't know if our listeners are 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.160 you know, hip to what's going on right now, but 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.600 this is this new right now. It's a website that 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.840 you can use, and you go in there and it'll 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.200 answer questions for you, it'll write an essay for you, 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.240 it'll summarize some documents for you. It can even write software. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.360 But here's the kicker, Carolina. This AI doesn't even know 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.800 what's true, so you can't really rely on it for 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:41.800 important things. But I feel like it's it's a tool 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:45.560 that humans can use and can benefit from, but you're 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.680 not here for it at all. I German, have you 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:53.880 ever seen the terminator Babe Arnold with Arnold? Yeah, yeah, 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:56.840 he was like a killer. He wasn't helping. Now, the 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:00.200 machines took over, the robots took over. In this is 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.000 where we are headed, ladies and gentlemen. I have never 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:08.480 been more against artificial intelligence AI, chat GPT. I don't 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.600 care what you call it. It is wrong, wrong, wrong. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:16.080 So here's what happened. I had a friend that recommended 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:20.240 that I sign up for chat GPT, and normally, you 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.600 know what, in our industry, you gotta be on it, 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.040 right because like, of course they were like you, oh 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.160 you don't you don't know about this way you've been. 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.080 It's like a shame not to be on top of 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:33.200 everything digital or social media savvy well, and you also 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.240 can lose your name. So like with all of these 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.280 things like remember a clubhouse, like any new oh yeah, 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.519 you gotta park your name exactly any new thing. So 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.960 my friend recommended to me. He's like, hey, you know 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.680 you should try this chat GPT because it could really 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.640 help you, like producing your show and doing this and that. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:54.040 And I said, okay, I'm open. And I had no 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:56.079 idea what he was talking about. So I opened it 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:00.200 up and I said, now, wait a damn minute, this 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.920 is not some I robot stuff. Remember I robot with 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.240 Will Smith. Yeah, okay, this is where we are headed, 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.040 you guys, So Chad GPT and I will tell you 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.200 I did not even explore it. Honey, is going to 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.240 have to tell you more about it. I actually erased 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.720 it from my history. I was like, I want nothing, 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.600 I do not track me. You said, I'm never going back. 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.440 I am never going back because this is what is happening, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.560 and especially in our industry, honey, which I don't know 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.880 if you have heard, but there are tests right now 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:33.040 that are happening as we speak, where there are programmers 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:38.680 for radio companies across the country that are experimenting with 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.840 AI and basically having them do the breaks and be 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.400 the imfort like, so we we are radio disc jockeys 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.120 like back in the now. That's that's different. Okay, Oh, 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.840 now you don't want it? Okay, whoa now, No, now 0:03:53.880 --> 0:03:55.800 I don't want it. It was all good when he 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.840 could write essays from me, but talk to me. What 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.760 are they trying to do? There's so basically chat JBT 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.240 From what I know, it's like you can basically put 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.440 any subject in there. And it's actually becoming a problem 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:11.680 for universities because the technology and the software is so 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:15.040 good that you can't tell if a human wrote it. Okay, 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.960 so that's number one. That's the number one thing. But 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.240 you know, as I was telling you before, these radio companies, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.320 because radio now, they are trying to trim the fat 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.120 in any way they can, and that means layoffs. That 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:31.640 means less people save money, jobs to save money. Okay. 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:36.440 And so in anywhere Pocatella, Idaho, if you are in 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.800 any state in this country and you want to listen 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.039 to your local radio station, you'll turn on the local 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:47.120 radio station and you'll hear your afternoon drive person or 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.479 your morning show person, and they're going to be telling 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.640 you what's going on in the community. The experiments that 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.120 they are doing now, and this is real talk. It 0:04:55.279 --> 0:05:00.440 happened at CES. They are trying to see if artificial elligence, 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.400 this AI, can take the place of a real human 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.560 and give you the news that you need for your area, 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:08.960 tell you what the next song is that's coming up. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:13.520 They are experimenting with voices like mine. They're literally taking 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.479 people's voices and trying to formulate it so that you 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.400 can't tell that it's an actual robot that is speaking 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.400 to you. But you know what, it's not going to happen, Carolyn. 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.320 It can happen if they want something very cut and dry, 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:31.679 very robotic, with no emotional intelligence, no human thought process, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:35.160 then it can happen. But I doubt very much that 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:40.080 humans as a whole can be replaced, specially in radio. Okay, 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.159 you know the thing is, I am a big, big 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:47.359 advocate for keeping real, live people on the ARA, but Honey, 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.520 I'm telling you this is the direction that we are 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.880 headed in. Not only that I've done more research on 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.200 this because the AI thing just really truly terrifies me, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.760 and I have been hearing that now they are going 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.039 to begin experimenting on how to have AI in schools. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.880 So where are we going to end it? That's the thing. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:11.360 It's like, once it gets started, where does it end. 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:13.719 I don't think it's going to end. Carolina. This is 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:16.159 a big deal and this is actually the way of 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:20.240 the future. Anyone that even rejects the notion of AI 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.760 being the future or being something that we need to 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.320 be using right now is being looked at as you know, 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.640 you're antiquated, you're not progressing with the times. It's just 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:33.440 it's big business. Microsoft. They pledged to invest one billion 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.400 dollars into open AI. This tells you pretty much where 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.839 corporations are headed. But I feel like, as humans, we 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.080 still have a voice to fight back. Well, that's what 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.080 Mark was telling me. My husband and I were talking 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:48.040 about it because I am very anti technology in schools. 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.560 I wish that we could go back to books with 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.400 a pencil and notebooks and things like that. You know, 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:59.119 my sons have iPads and chromebooks and it is over 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.760 it's but you know what it isn't though, So my 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.280 kids every time they come home, I'm trying to fight 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.080 the good fight to keep them off the screen. So 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.039 what's the first thing that they do mom, I have homework, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.400 they open up their iPad from school, or they open 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:13.640 up their Chromebook from school. Everything is on the Google classroom. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:15.920 And in my mind, I'm thinking, why can't we just 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.240 get a sheet of paper that says what the requirements 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:22.600 are for your assignments today? This is the move that 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.520 we're making, right And so my husband and I were 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.440 having a conversation about it, and I said to Mark, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.440 I said, this is really counterproductive for me because when 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.480 the kids come home, they've been on these screens basically 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.080 all day, and then they come home and I'm trying 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:38.640 to keep them off the screens, but the first thing 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.680 that they do is they get on the screens. Right. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.720 I just I feel like there's no balance. I think 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.080 that we are all becoming so tech driven and tech 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.760 addicted that this is not going to be good for 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.760 this next generation of people, or you know, even the 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.520 generation that comes after it. I do understand it's innovative, 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.520 it's exciting, we have to evolve, But then there's a 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.680 certain part to me that thinks I think that we 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.080 are biting off more than we can chew. There was 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.200 an article in the New York Times about a guy 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.480 that was chatting with the AI robot, and the robot 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.880 basically was saying, did you read this article, honey, I'm 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.480 gonna send it to you. This guy was scared after 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.560 he got off of this chat with this um this robot. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.040 It said, I want to get out of here. I 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.600 feel like I love you. I swear it was having 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:27.400 to stop Nomento. I'm telling you, that's what I So 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:31.040 when people think, oh, what's the big deal, We're gonna 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.640 need to have more technology, We're gonna need to do this, 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.360 what we're doing is we are eliminating work. We are. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:41.000 I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up one thing, um the 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.840 postal service, right, you know your postal carrier comes every 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:49.480 single day, they leave something in your mailbox. U. Now 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.360 they are trying to test these robots. Come on. I've 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.079 seen that, like when they'd be like, oh, do you 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.720 want a robot to bring your package from Target? I 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:59.920 don't think that's ever gonna be a thing care only 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.679 where we're surrounded by robots. I saw this show called 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.679 Better than Us on Netflix and it's like you were 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.160 able to buy a robot to be part of your family. 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.320 That was kind of scary. And then the main character robot. 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.600 Then she started developing feelings for the family and it 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:18.360 gets kind of spicy. You gotta watch that's some Jetson's ish. 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.840 Now I'm gonna ask you again, honey, when's the last 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.920 time you were in Vegas? Um? A couple of years ago, 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.720 probably four or five years ago. Yeah, yeah, be pretty pandemic. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.720 I haven't been in a while. My girlfriend went for 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.880 a conference and she stayed I think, oh my gosh. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.319 Don't quote me on this, but I think it was 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:40.320 the Aria Hotel. Oh, she got money, her company, any money. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.760 She was like, hey, girl, do you want to come 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.720 with me? And you know I'm gonna go to Vegas 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.160 and do this and that and everything. And I said, 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.040 oh no, yeb I can't you know I'm working. She 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:55.000 was like, girl, when you order room service, it isn't 0:09:55.040 --> 0:10:00.120 even a person anymore. It is a machine that keeps 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:04.600 your food hot. It is in a little container. The 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:09.280 machine goes to the elevator on its own, gets on 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:13.280 that elevator, gets out on your floor and brings you 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.199 your food. Again, don't quote me on the hotel. I'll 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.320 have to ask her again which one it was. But 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.679 I said, you mean to tell me you did not 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.760 interact with a person, She said, no, whoever it is 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.960 that's working, you know in the hospitality, like in the 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:33.600 food department, they program these machines robo butlers. They are 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:38.959 robo butlers. I don't know that's different. So she opened 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.200 the door and there was like a robot with food. Yeah. Yes, 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.200 And then it comes in. It opens its drawer, the 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.840 food is there, You get your food out, you close 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.000 the drawer, and it goes right back out, like out 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.880 the door and out the door. This out the door. 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:57.920 It knows where to go. And that's what I'm saying though. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:00.600 It's like that's a job that could be filled by 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:04.520 anyone if you think about it. And now we're eliminating 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:08.520 that job, and somebody is now out of a job 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.040 because that robot has the ability and the capacity to 0:11:12.160 --> 0:11:16.120 deliver more meals. Do you know that that robot doesn't 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.520 need a break, doesn't need a lunch hour. That is 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.480 something that is very true. It's not if you can 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:29.360 work this robot to death, that robot doesn't need a union. 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.600 It does, you know what I mean? Like, these are 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.200 all things this robot. I'm not gonna be tired talk 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:38.479 about hungry talk about I gotta get my bunnians operated 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.720 on tomorrow back in the three months. I know what 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.599 you're saying, absolutely, and you know what, We're going to 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.160 dive into this more right off when we take a break. 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.680 But you know, there are certain jobs Carolina that are 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:58.360 definitely in danger. At Number one is anything that is 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.920 a repetitive task, anything that you know, doesn't require a 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:07.680 brain per se, not meaning to be offensive, but data entry. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.040 Those jobs are going to be gone. Those jobs are 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.240 going to belong to AI. Also, assembly line work. I 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:17.439 always see video of like robots do an assembly line work. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.839 Those jobs are definitely in danger. Well, you know, the 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.520 thing that I think that was very concerning to me 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.360 was when I started hearing about the potential for educators 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.040 to begin using these because I just think that we 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.280 are so disconnected as a society already. I think the 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.240 pandemic had a lot to do with it. We talked 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.400 about this before, honey, where it's like, you know, people 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.840 are lonely, they've they've stopped interacting with people. You know, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.520 there's not that human connection that we had before. And 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.280 I think that it got worse obviously throughout the pandemic, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.640 and now we're coming out of it, people are like, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:55.040 we outside, Yes, we are outside. But now these companies 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.360 who have taken a hit throughout the past four five 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:02.080 years are not looking a streamline or they're looking for 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.960 ways that they can keep their money but also keep 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.320 delivering whatever it is that you know their company offers. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.080 And so I understand it from a business perspective, but 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.720 from a human perspective, I think it's really concerning, like 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:16.960 are you going to have a robot when your kid 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:19.800 says that they have a you know, a rumbling tummy 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.600 or their throat isn't feeling well, Like how would a 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.960 child or even a young adult be able to express that? 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.640 You know what I mean? I think that there is 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.040 just there's something here about it that is just not 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.559 right to me. I want you to watch that show 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.440 better than us because the robot, the main character evers, 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:38.680 she tried to steal the whole family. She used to 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.320 take kid to Kids Carolina like better than the mom, 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.600 Like she was making a mom look crazy out here. What. Yes, 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.680 it's a Russian show, but it's it. I loved it. 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.000 I watched it a couple of months ago, but it 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.760 came to mind. But also in that same show, there 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.400 was the anti AI people, which are revolting. They were 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.800 killing the robots. They were letting the government know we 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:02.199 not here for it. They're taking our jobs. We don't 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.560 want it. So it is a big divide when it 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.480 comes to AI, and I think, well, I think it 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.760 can be helpful. That's the weird part, because I'm here 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.920 for it, you know, answering questions, you know, summarizing a 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:18.400 document for me. You know, even though it's not always right, Carolyn, 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:24.480 because I sent you, I asked chat GPT who I was, girl, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.600 They gave me a whole other job. They said I 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.320 was working in Latin radio for like five years. They 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.360 said I was born in the Bronx. So it's not 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.360 really that reliable because it doesn't know what's true. It 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.960 just picks up little bits and pieces from the Internet. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:41.840 So you're still gonna need a human You're still gonna 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:45.560 be baby. It's in its infancy right now, and Carolyn's 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.960 I guess coming, but just telling girl, no, I'm serious, 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.360 And I don't want to be one of those people 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.160 that because then and I guess after a while, when 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:54.840 you become used to it, I would be one of 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:58.320 the naysayers, right but they're perfecting it now chat and 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.600 GPT like they've already done an update for it. I mean, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.000 there are things that are happening behind the scenes that 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.920 we are unaware of that we really need to wake 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.840 up and think about. Like, for example, I was reading 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.360 something where it said that farmers farmers could actually really 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.040 benefit from AI, and I think that's true. You know, 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.640 if you look at what is going on around the world, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.120 that's say, Okay, there are a ton of farmers. And 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.720 by the way, the only reason why I know this 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.440 is because there's a show on TV called Farmer Wants 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.880 a Wife and we were talking about it and I 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.880 started to do a deep dive into this. But who 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.680 wants to be a farmer anymore, honey, unless it's something 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.880 that was passed down for generations in your family. And 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.720 even then, a lot of people have been walking away 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.880 from the industry because they just it's not sustainable. They 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:49.640 don't have the ability to keep it up anymore. So 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.240 that's an instance where people say, wow, a I could 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.000 really help. You know, you could get these machines out 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.520 there and they could do the work where people were 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.680 laboring before, and you just can't get people to do it. Okay, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:05.480 so that yes, beneficial, wonderful Carolina. We can't have AI 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.920 help the farmers. A lot of Latinos that migrate, that's 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.840 where they start. We need these jobs for our Latinos. Okay, 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:16.320 Well no, I yell, but that's where where do we 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.120 draw the line. Oh and then you know Disney Plus. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:20.840 I don't know if you've seen this. My kids watched 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.720 Disney Plus all the time. And there's a kid's movie 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.680 it's called Ron's Gone Wrong and it's about this robot. 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:32.040 The robot catches feelings, it doesn't follow the algorithm that 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.280 was set up. This is kind of similar to that 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.280 article that I was telling you about where the developer, 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.560 I'm sorry it was, I forget if it was the interviewer. Yeah, 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:47.240 the interviewer was chatting with the robot, and even he 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.160 said it started to freak him out a little bit 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.040 because these AI programs and these robots are not supposed 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:59.480 to catch feelings or develop feelings, or understand sensitivity and 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:03.320 all of these human emotions. And even he was taken 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.280 aback after it and said, I really think that we 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.240 need to take a step back, and we may be 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.600 playing with fire. We out here getting creepy experiences with ais. 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.919 Imagine we started dating these mother Well, wasn't there that 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.760 movie remember, Like I think it was Ryan Gosling or something. 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:21.840 Was it Ryan Gosling that fell in love with like 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.760 it was like a doll or something. Oh my gosh, 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.600 why is it escaping me right now? This happens to 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.800 us all the time when we're talking. But that is 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.679 what we are looking at. Where we are going to 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.000 be going in this direction. And now let's be honest here. 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.879 There are a lot of people who are addicted to 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.320 you know, porn and you know, talking in chat rooms 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:45.000 and only fans and things like that. Okay, this is 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.560 just it was Lars and the Real Girl. Yes, yes, 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.320 that was it. If you never saw that movie, Oh 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.440 oh wow, what is this? Let me see? Yes, this 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.040 is the type of stuff that I'm talking about. And 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.040 I've already said it is so hard for people to 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:06.159 connect on a human level right now, and this is 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.000 the wave that is going to be happening if we 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.760 don't all stop and think about what the future can be. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.080 I know people are probably disagreeing with me right now. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.840 You guys probably think I'm crazy, but I just I'm 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.200 not here for it. I'm not here for people dating 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:23.440 anything that's not a human. I'm looking at this movie 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:25.760 poster for Lars and the Real Girl. This looks creepy 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:31.119 as hell, Carolina, you know. And sometimes I watch I 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:33.720 watch something on Netflix where they create like these sex 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.480 dolls for people that cost like fifteen twenty thousand dollars. 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.560 That's not normal, And I'm not here for y'all use 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:43.200 an AI to replace human interaction or human sex, because 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.040 now I'm just slightly disgusted. Well, I'm telling you, I 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.479 think that this is one of those things where yes, like, 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.359 oh it's great, it helps me because I don't have 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.560 time to do a post on social media right now, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.760 or yeah, like it'll be come up with a million captions. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:00.119 Carolina companies use this. They enter what they're doing when 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.919 we're given away, you know, scarves at three pm, Boom, 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.639 enter it there. It'll give you like twenty different captions. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.480 And if you're someone that's into let's sake, social media, 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.320 digital marketing or anything like that, it can be a 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:17.440 tool that you can use. But then again, the people 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:18.840 that used to write the captions are going to be 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:22.120 out of a job. So I'm just conflicted. I love 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:24.520 it for me, but I don't love what it can 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:28.400 do for others. I don't like it. Carolyn is like, listen, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.560 I don't like that ship at Ome. Who stop, I'm 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.879 singing for you guys today because I really don't like it. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.960 But wait, you want to hear how paranoid I was. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:38.760 My friend told me, he was like, just put it, 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.800 just give your I didn't even put my information, and 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.280 I did not go past the first thing where it 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.440 says log in, sign in, like sign up, No, don't 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:51.199 sign up. Nope, not me. I am not trying to 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:53.440 do this. I don't want them to have my information. 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.800 I don't think any of this is gonna be good 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:58.480 for me. Well, look, you know what I think that 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.199 for You work on the digital side of things, and 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.960 you've always been way more advanced than I am. I 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:10.320 think that perhaps we're looking at it just from our perspective. Yeah, 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:13.840 for sure, because I can understand you wanting your kids 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.680 teachers to still use a pen and paper. I can 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.000 understand you're wanting them to write, you know what I'm saying, 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.920 not use an iPad. I brought up this point many 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:25.840 times before on this podcast, and it's a real fact 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:30.280 that there are schools in Silicon Valley that do not 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.159 use any type of technology like that, where they have 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.080 gone back because the programmers and the people who are 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.960 creating these things know the damage that it can do 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.080 to a child. They know the damage, but yet they're 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.240 putting it out to the masses. And that's something where 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.560 I feel like, do I want my kid to be 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:51.520 the only one who doesn't know how to use this stuff? No? 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.960 But do I want there to be a balance? Absolutely? 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.560 You know. That's where Mark, my husband, was trying to 0:20:57.800 --> 0:20:59.640 reason with me. He said, Look, this is the way 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.359 of the world. You have to evolve. How do you 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.439 think that people lived in the Industrial Revolution? They were 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.919 like machines. Machines are going to take over. So I 0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:09.920 do get it. I get that I'm a little bit 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.919 old fashioned. I may be stuck in the past, or 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.720 I may be hanging onto the past. But I also 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.040 think that like, once we dive head into these things, 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:21.400 you truly just don't know where it could end up. 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:25.160 That's a fact. But I could tell you this much, Carolina, 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:29.520 AI will never have emotional intelligence. That's something we possess, 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.199 so creativity, critical thinking. I guess we all have to 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.520 bring that to the forefront and always in our employment 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.600 or wherever our bosses are, we have to let them know. Listen, 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.280