1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Everybody. This is Freddie Rodriguez and I'm Wilmer about d rama. 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to those amigos. 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: This is season two, season two, as we say around 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: this woods, those but welcome back. We're excited that you 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: are allowing us back into your either headphones, speakers, car speakers, 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: maybe your long flights, your road trips. Very grateful that 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: you've stuck with us on this journey as we continue 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: to explore what those amigos means to us. 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: And in the same vein you know, we we. 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: Have a season full of amazing friends and and exciting conversations, 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: and you know you're not only. 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Invited, you're going to be our third amigo. 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: Amigo baby, here we go. How are you woomer? 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: You good? Got you asked? 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:04,919 Speaker 3: That's a great jacket. 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, thank you man. 17 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 3: How I complimented you when I saw you today? 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: Thank you? Yes, you like this jacket. That's a great jacket. 19 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: You thought it was Ralph Lauren. 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 4: Because I remember when we were in Texas that time 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 4: we went to that store you took me to in 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 4: Austin and it had all that great gear and you 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 4: were explaining to me how Ralph Lauren does their own 24 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: sort of line. What's that line called double RL? 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: That's it. I think double RL is very cool. 26 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: It's a it's inspired by so many vintage pieces they're 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: no longer on rotation, so it's like almost like vintage new. Yeah, 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: you know, like you can put on some pair of 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 2: pants knowing that somebody else's stuff was not in it. 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like your your your speakeasy 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: is is that style? 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: It's a little it's like vintage new. But you know, 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 2: the only thing that's like really really vintage is this motorcycle, 36 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: which somebody's stuff has definitely been on that seat, you know, 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: A big shout out to Luke barn you know who 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: let us have this motorcycle. Yeah, you know, as as 39 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: our backdrop. But are you a motorcycle guy? 40 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: Not really. 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 4: I've been married a long time and my wife's not 42 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: crazy about me being on a motorcycle and having kids. 43 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: What about you your motorcycle? 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: Well, like every uh, young Latino in the nineties, I 45 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: wanted a ninja. 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I wanted like. 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: Like a real colorful neon. 48 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah maybe not maybe red black, you know, and I 49 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: you know, I just wanted to wear that outfit. 50 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, what do you mean? Like the whole 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: motorcycle jack. 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: The jacket, the leather pants. It's like speaking of leather pants. 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 2: Not to bring back a social subject, but you know, uh, 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: Freddie has all experience with other pants. 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so have I To be fair. 56 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: It's gonna say I have a feeling you did too. 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: I just got to do my fortune. Uh it was. 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: It's never been historical recorded, So. 59 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to talk to Manda 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: about that. 61 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: But I have more embarrassing stuff in my career that's 62 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: definitely historically recorded anymore, Like could you could you give 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: an example? 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: Ah? Man, did you watch that seventy show? Do you 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: have two hundred half hours to talk about? 66 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: This is brilliant comedic acting is what I show? 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: You had television once before? 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: A little bit before in there embarrassing moment. 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: What's the longest running show? 70 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: You're you've done the longest running Let's see a bowl? 71 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: The show was just on ran five seasons. Six Feet 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 3: Under ran five seasons. Five has been the magic number? 73 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: How many episodes do you do in those? 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: The cable? 75 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: Six Feet Under was it started off as like thirteen episodes. 76 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: That was going to take that time. 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but Bowl it was like twenty two to 78 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: twenty three episodes, which man, it's right. You hit like 79 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: that January point after the holidays and. 80 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: You're just like wow. 81 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: So six Feet Under was nominated for tons of what words? 82 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: Now? It was yeah, yeah, we were actually at a 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 4: certain point. We're in the Guinness Book of World Records 84 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 4: for the most Emmy nominations of. 85 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: All time no way. Yeah, this was like two thousand 86 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: and one or something like that. 87 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: Who had the other record? Would the for us? I'm 88 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: not the lesser show? Who was the lesser show? 89 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe mash Or, I don't know. 90 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 4: But but Game of Thrones dethroned us, I believe. 91 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: But they had VFX and all the categories that didn't 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: compete that you didn't compete in, you know. 93 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we held that record for a while, 94 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: but they I heard that they dethroned us, So I 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: don't know. 96 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of thrown, shout out to Brian Cogman, Yeah, buy 97 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: a great executive producer and writer. Throw four Emmys as 98 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 2: a writer for that show. Crazy, Just an amazing, brilliant 99 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: man and a good guy. 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: So with that show. 101 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: The actors got nominated on that too. 102 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was nominated. Oh yeah, that's what I 103 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 3: was learning. 104 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: You finished my. 105 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was perfect, seguay to talk about award season 106 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: because you had an experience. I only campaign for a 107 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: teen Choice award I wanted, but with the means I 108 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: don't have much experience, but you have, which I'm excited 109 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 2: to talk about because I know, yeah, award season is 110 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: about now. 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: The is uh you know, is a big deal in 112 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: this town. 113 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: And you know, also a lot is defined, you know, 114 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: a lot is is dictated by you know, some of 115 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: some of these academies, right. 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: I mean they're yeah. 117 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: I mean when you when you did your show Six 118 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: Feet Under, what was that like? 119 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: You get a phone call? 120 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: Like, how do you how do first you find out 121 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: that you're nominated, You watch the nominated the announcement of 122 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: the nominations, or you just wake up the next morning 123 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: you got a call from the producer. 124 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: How does that work? 125 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 3: I gotta well, for. 126 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 4: Me, person, I got to call it like five in 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 4: the morning to tell me that I was nominated, which 128 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: is insane. You know, I was like half asleep, you know, 129 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: we were all nervous. It was it was like our 130 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: second season, I believe, and. 131 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: We sort of a second season. 132 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: Yes, it was like first season going into like second season. 133 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: Uh. 134 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: And this was before social media, before any of that, 135 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, it was it was like being 136 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: shot out of a cannon. You know, all of a sudden, 137 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 4: you're you're part of the biggest show on the planet, 138 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 4: you know, and you get nominated. But it's uh, but 139 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 4: it was such a humbling experience. And then you you 140 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: go through these different like luncheons, and you get to 141 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: meet the other people who were nominated. Uh, you get 142 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 4: to go to different parties, you get to I mean, 143 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: I described because I've also gone through an Oscar campaign. 144 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: You didn't even let me you let me go there. No, no, no. 145 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 4: What I was gonna say is is the the what's 146 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 4: similar is is that it's it's very It's what I 147 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: would imagine is is like a like a political campaign, 148 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: like if you're running for office, who who who. 149 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: Are the people you kind of have to you know, 150 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 2: kind of be in community with during that campaign, the voters. 151 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: The academy voters, and so you know, in sixteen hundred's case, 152 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: it was the sixteen unders case, it was different because 153 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: it was such a it was such a phenomenon from 154 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: like from from the. 155 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: It was a very obvious choice for the Yeah. 156 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, So there wasn't much campaigning beforehand. 157 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: But but I did a movie called Bobby and for 158 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: that there was a lot of campaigning. And I describe it. 159 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: I mean, I've never ran for office before, but from 160 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: what I've seen in documentaries and on TV, it was 161 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: very similar to that. You you literally launch a campaign, 162 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: and if you're running for office, right, the campaign is 163 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: vote for me, right, I should be in this position 164 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: in office. 165 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: Right. 166 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: If you're doing it for an oscar, it's the same 167 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: thing you're saying, vote for me, you know, for best 168 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 4: supporting act or best actor whatever it was. 169 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: That's such an interesting campaign because I wonder what gets 170 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: the vote? Is this lobby and actually, you know, you know, 171 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: influential is the proximity at the artist or the filmmaker, 172 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: you know, a favorable moment for a voter. Like I 173 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: think that's the biggest question for me when you think 174 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: about this campaign, like what is effective you know, in 175 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: campaigning in your opinion, you feel like meeting the voters, 176 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: is it about them liking you or is it about them, 177 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: like just being exposed to your process and understanding that 178 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 2: it was deeper than just the nomination that you didn't work. 179 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: For the part. I don't know. 180 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out exactly what gets it done, 181 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: what gets that vote it's it. 182 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: In my opinion, I think it differs every time, right, Like, 183 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: like I was saying, like with six Feet Under, it 184 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: was an obvious thing because it was such a phenomenon, right, 185 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 4: And sometimes even for film as it pertains to the Academy, right, 186 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: sometimes there are particular films there are just such obvious choices, right, 187 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: because they've become phenomenons. And then there's there's sort of 188 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 4: the smaller movies, right that have really good performances in it, 189 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 4: And like the film that I was in, Bobby, and 190 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: that we were sort of vying for that position. And 191 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: then sometimes I kind of feel like, you know, there 192 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 4: are some pretty big name actors in some other films, 193 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: and they want those actors to show up, right, so 194 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 4: so you know, they kind of try to make a 195 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 4: place for those guys to be nominated. It's a At 196 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: the end, what I got out of it was that 197 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 4: it was just this huge balancing act of all of 198 00:09:53,720 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: it you know, of of popularity of merit of and painting, which, 199 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 4: by the way, costs so much money. 200 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: Man, Like, yeah, I know, how do those little movies 201 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: do it? Right? 202 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: Like if you probably get a distributor on the Yeah, 203 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think a distributor that gets one 204 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: of those independent films that you know were made by 205 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: two million dollars and top investors another nine million dollars 206 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: in a campaign or five million dollars in a campaign 207 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: to just ultimately get that second wave of awareness for 208 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: the movie. Because really, the way I look at nominations 209 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: and I look at award shows is that for a 210 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: lot of these movies that are breaking even because they 211 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: only had four hundred screens, so they have maybe just 212 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: six hundred screens across the United States, they didn't make 213 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: their money back. I mean, I feel like this is 214 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: such a crazy gamble. You're trying to get nominated because 215 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: you know that it'll put you on a world stage 216 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: and people could find your movie and also eventually be 217 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: distributed on a wider air because then the secondary window 218 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: and third window of distribution happens after you get nominated. 219 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: But that's a good. 220 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: Question, you know, you know, it's funny you mentioned that 221 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 4: the Golden Globes just happened, right, And like, I think 222 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: his name is Joe Egerton, the actor, right, And he 223 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: was in a movie called Train Dreams and it was 224 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 4: on Netflix, and. 225 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: I thought the movie was fantastic. It was such a 226 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: beautiful film. 227 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 4: But it was a small film, as you were just saying, right, 228 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: And it didn't seem like the budget was that high. 229 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: Didn't seem like they had much of a budget for 230 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: the p and a for the publicity and advertisement. However, 231 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 4: he got nominated for a Golden Globe, and he won 232 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 4: the Golden Globe, right, so it's like, oh, okay, they 233 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 4: really didn't put that much money behind the campaign. But 234 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: nevertheless his performance got found within the plethora of other performances. 235 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 4: But he didn't get nominated for an Oscar. Right, He 236 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: won the Golden Globe but didn't get nominated for the Oscar. 237 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: And I was always such an eccentric thing, right, just like, 238 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: if you win the Golden Globe, it doesn't nesscessarily means 239 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 2: you're even going to get nominated for the Oscars. 240 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: In his case is a perfect example. 241 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 4: You know, did that have to do with maybe they 242 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 4: didn't have the financing to for the campaign to you know, 243 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: you look in variety, right, you know, for your consideration. 244 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,359 Speaker 3: You know, like that stuff costs. 245 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: Money, man, you know, or the billboards that you see 246 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 4: and on Sunset Boulevard or you know, all that stuff 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: costs so much money. The same way would you know 248 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: for like someone running for office, right you know, you 249 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: see someone like Kamala Harris or Joe Biden whatever, You're like, 250 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: they have one hundred million dollar war chest. 251 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: For there they spend up a billion dollars on this campaign. 252 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 4: It's the same thing, man, You know, to a smaller degree, 253 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: brings me full circle to reflecting on some of our 254 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 4: communities and some of our cultures, as you. 255 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: Know, some of them have had the privilege, you know, 256 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: we've had the privilege of having people like you and 257 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: others who hit that stage and actually brings quite a 258 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 2: great deal of pride to see, you know, some of 259 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: these images being considered at the same caliber as some 260 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: of those that iconically will be known for these nominations 261 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: and these wins. Do you feel and I think this 262 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: is a question I guess for both of us, do 263 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: we feel that that it has gotten better and representation now? 264 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: And I and and that's a question with also a 265 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: secondary statement, which is there's tons of studies that says 266 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: we're only six percent of the roles of entertainment period, right. Uh, 267 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: that doesn't reflect on the majority of the consumer's demand, 268 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: which happens to be a lot of Latino communities for 269 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,239 Speaker 2: the opening weekend, you know, for the same day viewership 270 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: and extremely subscription also advertising buyers and things like that. 271 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 2: So when you see the power of the spending power 272 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: and the buying power of this community and when you 273 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: look at what gets made, it doesn't really reflect on that. 274 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: But but based on how long we've been doing this, 275 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: you know, roughly between thirty and forty years each one 276 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: of us combined with almost one hundred years of damn. 277 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: But the idea is that that do you feel that 278 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: it has gotten better since when we started? And then 279 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: for have you seen us on that stage, you know, 280 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: of the award shows as well? 281 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: What do you what do you feel? 282 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: That's a really tricky question. You know, I feel like 283 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 4: it fluctuates every year, right, right. You know, you brought 284 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: up a really interesting point to say that our demographics 285 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: buying power is high, right, and it continually is high 286 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 4: every single year, and so perhaps the awards season should 287 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: reflect that. 288 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: Right. It's basically what you're you're kind of. 289 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: Saying to a degree, right, uh, and it doesn't, right, 290 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: and and and and so their lives the dilemma, you 291 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: know you. 292 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: Or even the the the the quantity of opportunity, yeah, right, 293 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: that will get us a presimity to be noticed on 294 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: one of these you know, world stages. 295 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the quantity, right, which is which is a whole 296 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: other conversation about you know, us getting projects out there 297 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: and and and them being greenlit, some of them being 298 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 4: convertially viable enough to do well so that the powers 299 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: that be go, hey, it made some money. Let me 300 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: give you some money to do another one and then 301 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 4: another one after that. You know, you know you you 302 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 4: you You brought up an interesting point in one of 303 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: our conversations before about it all being sort of an ecosystem, 304 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: right that that. 305 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: That perhaps needs to be. 306 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: Fine tuned maybe a little more, and perfected a little 307 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: more in order for that ecosystem to continue to to. 308 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: And let me follow that rabbit hole there, because I 309 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: think the eco system is an interesting conversation. 310 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: We're yet to really be a part of that ecosystem. 311 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: The ecosystem has now been balanced, right, I mean they 312 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: can you can put odd bets in Vegas about whether 313 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: the movie is going to be number one or not. 314 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: Now you can predict, based on level of awareness a 315 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: week before whether the release is going to get to 316 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: X amount of dollars, right, Like, they can predict that number. 317 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: But what they cannot figure out is how they can 318 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: trust that it will do good merely by saying the 319 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: ecosystem has a healthy amount of not only representation, but 320 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: a real thorough look at like how we consume content, 321 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: how are we invited to the content? You know, I 322 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: dare to say universal, that's a really great job with 323 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: the community. You know, a lot of their movies, you know, 324 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: which are genre, whether it's adventure, horord or action. They 325 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: speak a language and marketing that actually says, hey, this 326 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: is a movie. 327 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: We're inviting you to this movie too. 328 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: You know Most, I think Most and Furious. 329 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: Furious Jurassic Park. 330 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: You know, like when you look at the numbers of 331 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: latinos that show up to those movies, you're like, WHOA, 332 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: is it the genre or is it the marketing? When 333 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: you think about it, you go to the neighborhoods that 334 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: are probably you know, prominent in the Latino culture. In 335 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: Latino culture, you you you realize there's like there's posters, there, 336 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 2: there's flyers, there's like you know, a Jurassic Park, you know, 337 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: you know, candy at just seventy eleven. 338 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Like, you know, they're they're really. 339 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: Infiltrating pop culture for the individuals who really trust that genre. 340 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: I don't know that most studios. 341 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 2: Have really given a kind of scientific look at like 342 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: how do we balance or marketing strategies and then you know, 343 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: and then they think that it's really about just like 344 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: putting up are casting in front of it, right, It's 345 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: really about hitting the notes. It's not just the brown 346 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: face and uh in a beautiful character that takes you 347 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: to an extraordinary circumstance. I think it's to me about 348 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 2: it's about you know what, you know, what notes? What boxes? 349 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 2: Does it check in values right in spirit and trajectory 350 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: and story that actually are relatable to to our specific experience. 351 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying like it has to have Sasa 352 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 2: music and Marakis, right, that's now, that's not how we 353 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 2: relate to content, right, But it is about uniting us 354 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 2: all in the tones and in the boxes. 355 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: Is it the genres right? 356 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: Like people are blown away when they saw Jenna Ortega, 357 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: you know, doing incredible with Wednesday. 358 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: You're like, whoa Wednesday? And you know Luis Gou's Mond. 359 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: Place, you know, the character Like it's a lot of 360 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: this stuff is like really interestingly, you know, subliminately successful 361 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: and they can't explain it why, but it's like it's 362 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: the same thing. It's like, we want to be going 363 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: along with an extraordinary circumstance and we want to be 364 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: able to be part of the part of the character 365 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 2: lineup that actually contributes to win in the day. And look, 366 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: it gets very, very complicated, but we bring a full 367 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: circuit to the awards and the awards season. Do you 368 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: feel like you've seen an improvement on you know, on 369 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: on latinos and minorities as a whole being invited to 370 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: the word shows. 371 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 4: Improvement is a really tricky word. I don't know if 372 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 4: I would say improvement, I would say that it fluctuates. 373 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 3: I would say that there are. 374 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: Certain years where where you do see representation that has 375 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: earned their position in those categories, and there's certain years 376 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 4: that it doesn't that that sometimes there are projects out 377 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: that you point to those projects, and you go, well, 378 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: why was in this person? 379 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: Do you think you have something to do with the 380 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 2: inconsistency of the quantity of opportunities for certain actors to 381 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: be showcased? 382 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think the quantity has something 383 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 4: to do with it, right beca. 384 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: Some years, like Pedro Pascal does three movies and the 385 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: next year he's only. 386 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 4: One, right, right, Well, I think I think, you know, 387 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 4: you talk about quantity, which is an interesting conversation. You know, 388 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 4: I feel like if if we had more quantity, then 389 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 4: we would have more opportunities to be allowed to fail, right. 390 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 3: I think sometimes you have to be allowed fail in 391 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: order to in order to learn from that failure. You know. 392 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: It's just like in any sort of business. 393 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 4: Right, Like, like the more you have, the more uh 394 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: could be sacrificed in order for the others to do well. 395 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: Everybody gets more strikes than we do. 396 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and then so then when we do get 397 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: that opportunity at batman, we we have to hit a 398 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: home run every single time, and sometimes that's not not 399 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: humanly possible to do, right, you know, but that's what's 400 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 4: required of us. 401 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: And you know, I think that's maybe a little unfair. Yeah, 402 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: what do you think. 403 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think that's it. 404 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that we have to continue to 405 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: work on the all the different connecting tissues that make 406 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: Latina entertainment. 407 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: And I'm only saying, and let me really really. 408 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: Deep down on this, double down on this is that 409 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: the Latina entertainment is mainstream entertainment. But I only say 410 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: Latino because it finally comes from us for the world, right, Like, 411 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: if we're creating and developing things and putting things out there, 412 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: we've never been the entertainers of the artists that are 413 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: just like, oh, I'm the brown character, right like, we 414 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: never think ourselves of that specifically the two people sitting 415 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: in this chair, right. 416 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: What I can say is that I think that to. 417 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: Your point, there hasn't been an opportunity to continue to 418 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: cultivate the talent we already have because there's a lot 419 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: of like that bottlenecking and and when when somebody wants 420 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: to make something, there's a usual suspect shortlist that is 421 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: trusted with that stuff, and I don't think necessarily they 422 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: you know, they get it to the next level. Right, So, 423 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: so I think it's about investing in community. 424 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: So by investing in the trust in the audience. 425 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: And in order to do that is you got to 426 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 2: put more, you know, you got to put more on 427 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: that screen that that test is you know what you've 428 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: already tested for decades and decades of content and with 429 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: other you know configurations. 430 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. 431 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 3: There is a short list, you know, and and and that. 432 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: Short list is always expected to to to hit a 433 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: home run, and and and and many many times they do. 434 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 4: But sometimes there's another list of people who may not 435 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 4: always hit a home run, but they be if they 436 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 4: were given more opportunities at bat, that they would hit 437 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: a home run. 438 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: But you brought up an interesting point about Wednesday. 439 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 4: You know, first of all, she was terrific, as she 440 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 4: always is on that show. But what I really loved 441 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 4: about what she was doing, what Louis was doing, and 442 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 4: just the whole construct of that show was that here 443 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: was the show about this family, these people, and she 444 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 4: just happened to be Latina, right, and like Louis Guzman 445 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 4: just happened. 446 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: To be Latino. 447 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: And I don't even think, I don't even know or 448 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 4: think if that's mentioned at all during the series, whether 449 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 4: that's important or not, right, which is a whole other conversation. Right, 450 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 4: Why every time like we're on screen, it's always you know, 451 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: they feel that we have to sort of emphasize ethnicity. 452 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 3: I just feel like they were just people. 453 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 4: There were people who were playing these characters who did 454 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: a great job at it, and they were seen as 455 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: America kids, right. And I think that if we had 456 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: more of that sort of business model on screen, I 457 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: think that I think that we would have more opportunities 458 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 4: to be more commercially. 459 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: Viable exactly to tell to tell the stories that that 460 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: connect with the masses and general audiences. 461 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely right. 462 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 4: I think piggybacking off of what we just said, I 463 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 4: think that's why it's so important with what you're doing, 464 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: for example, you know, with with with your company and 465 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 4: the stuff that you're producing, because I feel like I 466 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 4: feel like the stuff that you're producing is very much 467 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: on track with with what we're talking about. 468 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 2: I feel I feel, I feel that you and I 469 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: have been in this thing long enough to kind of 470 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 2: understand how to how to really help you know, in 471 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: the kitchen, you know, and I think I think, uh, 472 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 2: to be invited to the kitchen is to kind of start, 473 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, cooking up some of that solution, right, Yeah, 474 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, but but I think we've both been you know, 475 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: kind of part of that, you know, kind of early forefront, 476 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: you know, to do that. If I were to ask 477 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 2: myself the same question, is it getting better? 478 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Is it? 479 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 480 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: I said improving. I will tell you that. 481 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: You know, I remember that we both always were the 482 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: only Latino on the whole. 483 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: Network sometimes, right, it's no longer the case. 484 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: Right, So when you look at a network like CBS, 485 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: there's multiple Latinos and different shows. You know, there's African Americans, 486 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: there's Asian community, the Asian communities represented, you know, so 487 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: there's like it feels that there's more organic and you know, 488 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 2: in a more fruitful, you know, kind of interpretation of that. 489 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: That being said, there's not enough shows. There's not enough things. 490 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: We're still like a very small percentage of the storytellers 491 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: and lead characters and shows, which I think has to 492 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: still continue to improve and evolve. I will dare to 493 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: say that I think the students trying to figure it out. 494 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 2: I think there's smart enough to know they really have 495 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 2: to get to the audiences. And I think we're looking 496 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 2: at a very interesting moment of shifting of paradigm you know, 497 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: look coming full circle to like, you know, most importantly the. 498 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: You know, the marketing and how we show up for 499 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: each other. 500 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: We've seen more of us show up for each other's 501 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: premieres and each other's right, you know, as social media 502 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: campaigns for each other's projects than before. Like you post 503 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: something about a movie, immediately I'm reposting it. Like right 504 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: back in the day, we didn't have those tools to 505 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: be able to show up for each other. 506 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: We have to like go to a we have to 507 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: go to a red carpet and be like, I'm here 508 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: supportant ready. So now we can do that. 509 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: But then also there's all the ways in which we 510 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: can support another and I think one another, and I 511 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: think that we're seeing this very uplifting moment where a 512 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: lot of the Latinos I think are showing up for 513 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: each other, at least in the you know, you got 514 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 2: a thing, let's all tweet it. You know, we're getting 515 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: behind it. 516 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 4: And yeah, there's definitely that system in place now where 517 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 4: where that didn't exist before. 518 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: And look at looking with you know, bad money just 519 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: diding this in the in the halftime, you know, and 520 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl a while ago, they you know, 521 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: they you know that the Latino world was like, yes, 522 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: we're all in this thing together. We're all waving our flags, 523 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 2: but one together. 524 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and I think that's what we got 525 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: to do in entertainment to kind of keep it pushing. 526 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there was definitely of that. 527 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 4: Although he is Puerto Rican and a lot and a 528 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: lot of the show focused on very specific intricacies that 529 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 4: revolve around Puerto Rico, it was it felt very unifying, 530 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: you know, and it was wonderful to see people of 531 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: other ethnicities supporting him and supporting. 532 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 2: And we have to translate that energy into all the 533 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 2: different parts of the thing. And uh but you know, 534 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: but I listen, this whole episode was about making sure 535 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: that people knew you were nominated for yeah, and that 536 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: you were absolutely a part of That's what literally what 537 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: this episode was about, especially because. 538 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: You didn't Oscar campaign. So I'm just a nice guy. 539 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you're one of our greates. 540 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: And thank you, my brother, thank you. 541 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: But either way, everyone, thank you so much for joining 542 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 2: us on our first episode of Those Amigos Season Dose, 543 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: Season Dose, and uh, you know, remember it tell a 544 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 2: friend that we're. 545 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: Here to be Uh, we're here Amigos too. 546 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: That's right, the ear third Amigo. This is Freddie Rodriguez. 547 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: And wilmri Valderama. 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