WEBVTT - MEGA Top 50 Big Board Breakdown | Ticket to the Draft Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.960 In today's episode of Take It to the Draft Podcast, 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.680 we got Russell Wilson, Justin Field, Sam Howel, to Seattle, 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.480 all these quarterbacks, all these picks moving around the NFL. 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:09.879 What does it mean for the Commanders? Stay tuned to 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:10.239 find out. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.440 And we got big boards, Top fifty, Zach Selby, Fretzmoot, 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:15.760 just the Guy Jason, and I give you our top 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:18.840 fifty players and how these top fifty players. 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:20.400 Fall in this trap. Make sure you check that out. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.200 It all starts right out. 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:29.080 Welcome to the Ticket of the Draft podcast, presented by Seek, 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:32.240 the official primary taking partner of the Washington Commanders. I'm 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.720 Logan Paulson here with the eclectic group of talent evaluators, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:39.199 Fred Smoot, Zach Selby, and Jess the guy Jason, who 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:40.760 I think we're gonna start calling him? What'd you call 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:41.800 it mel Kuiper last week? 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.560 No, No, Jason Guiper, Jason. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:48.320 I think we're just a combine Jason Paulson, Yeah, yeah, 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:48.800 coming in. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.400 He came back a different guy. 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.080 So I got in here at nine when we're all 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.400 supposed to get here on time today, unlike the rest 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.720 of you guys, and Jason. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.200 Was in here grinding tape at I. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.040 Got in a little early because I was looking at 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:03.880 my list that we're gonna do. We're gonna do the 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.640 top fifty on our personal big boards today and I 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.800 was looking at it and I was like, is this right? 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.679 So I just started pulling up film to see, Like. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.200 That's what telling evaluators do, all right, That's what you 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:19.240 do anytime you have a feeling that something ain't right, 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:20.080 you go back to the feed. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.520 Everything written in pencil until definitely exactly right. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.959 Yeah, everything is written in pencil. So as Jason said, 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.280 we're gonna do our we each did a big board today. Yep, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:29.880 We're gonna go through those in a little bit. But 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.400 first we cannot escape the quarterback talk. Dunt dunt, duh. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.680 It's a little bit different quarterback talk today though, right, 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.280 because we got trades. We got Russell Wilson and Justin 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.319 Fields to the Steelers, obviously Sam Howell to the Seahawks. 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.839 So let's start with the Pittsburgh Steelers, right, bringing Russell 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.760 Wilson in and then adding Justin Fields for a six 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.040 round pick. I know we were in our production meeting, Fred, 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:53.880 you had some strong feelings about it, So why don't 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:54.360 we start with. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.080 You yeah, and just kind of say you think it's 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:56.840 a good move that they did. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.280 I think it's a great move. Now they don't have 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.240 to trade up to get a quarterback. It's set of 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.560 them at quarterback. They got two options. They got the 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.000 veteran who won the Super Bowl already, who's trying to 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.760 rebuild his career. They got the youngster who's trying to 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:12.760 find himself that could be your future. Like I think 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:17.160 in that quarterback room, they're set, and Russell might not 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:18.200 start after. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.959 Week ten if things go downhill. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.840 But I think with Justin Fields, what they have there 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:26.680 is a guy that you could easily pick up his 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.600 fifth year option. He brings a lot to that offense. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.119 You got pickings on the outside, you got Washington and Title, 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.239 you got guys fire tight, you have guys that you 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.000 got a running game to protect him. I think Justin 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.560 Field has been dealt the worst hand of any quarterback 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:42.200 in his draft. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.680 He went to Chicago Bears coach got fired, and he. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.359 Had to learn the whole new office and now even 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.520 had to learn another new offense. I'm glad with this 0:02:49.680 --> 0:02:52.560 new offense he gets to sit behind rush though and 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:53.680 problem solved. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.760 While he figures out how to play in his offense. 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.240 No, I think it's that if there's anything such as 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.240 eatier and having it too, it's having Russell Wilson and 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.960 Justin Fields because one Russe Wilson. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:05.679 Is not getting paid that much. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.600 So you can exercise Justin Fields fifth your opting if 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.240 you really really want to and not have to have 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.160 to go into a whole lot of cap space issues, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:13.359 and you can. 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:14.639 You can let him learn. 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.239 But also Justin Fields is a highly talented athlete. You 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:20.520 can possibly even resign in a couple of years if 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.120 you're really to want to, if you really think he's 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.400 got the opportunity in the ability to do so. Now 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.120 with Russ, like there's he's obviously not Seattle Russ anymore. 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:32.519 Like that's very clearly, yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's no longer 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:34.600 he's not worth cooking what he needs to be cooking anymore. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.560 But I think he still has enough to kind of 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.200 give you some as more of a transition maybe, yeah, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.440 but almost like he could be even a bridge quarterback 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.000 now if you really need a quarterback. 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:43.360 Exactly. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:43.680 Yeah. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.440 So, and I think he can win you some games, 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:47.720 he can keep them competitive while also letting justin Field, 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.640 sit back, and learn, because I still think he can 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.240 do a lot of that early in his career because 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:52.680 he's still got a lot of the things he can 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.480 grow and develop in his in his skill set. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:59.360 And think about this Pittsburgh Cuffs playoff team with a 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.520 quarterback that didn't throw ten touchs down, Like, so when 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.400 you bring in Russell and you bring in Justin Fields, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.280 I think that makes you more dangerous at the quarterback position. 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.360 And don't forget this is a team that puts all 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.760 their money on the defensive side of the ball, So 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.160 don't forget between the running game and the defense, which 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.320 you have a quarterback starts we'll be protecting. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.240 Yeah, it's interesting though, Like you know, I think about 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.960 it from a team building perspective, and is there like 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.200 what's the value for Fields for the six round pick, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.039 especially because you do have to give him the franchise 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.520 you do have to give him if your option right. 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.279 And I do think like one of the reasons you 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.279 draft a guy is because you kind of reset that 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.200 quarterback clock. And I don't know, is the value worth 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:38.680 it for a guy you're not going to really get 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.000 a good read on because he's going to be the 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.440 backup quarterback, you're gonna have to make. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:42.560 A decision about his fifth year option. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.840 You're really just getting a rental for this one year 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.120 of cost control Justin Fields, and then you're kind of 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.600 back in the rat race of quarterback potentially because because 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.240 obviously Russell Wilson will be up, Justin Fields will be up. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:56.600 So are they kind of lighting that six round pick 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.359 on fire. And again, six round pick is not like 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.320 a tremendous value. It is an interesting kind of thought 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.680 experien I know a lot of people are very high 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.920 in this move, but for me, it's like, you really 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:06.560 just watch you a year and then you got to 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.839 make a decision about to get to give him an extension. 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.440 I guess you could go to the Green Bay route 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.040 and say, hey, you know, like you haven't played, we're 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:15.640 gonna give you a We're gonna like renegotiate your contract 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:17.080 structure to kind of something. 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:17.840 Outside of that fifth year. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.480 But I do think it's interesting, you know, I think 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.000 a lot of people in the media are really high 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:24.720 on it. When I talk to people around the NFL, 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.760 they're like, yeah, just In Fields, They're like, not like 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.120 super geeked about the whole you know, what I'm saying, think. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:31.880 About this logan how much money out of spending in 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:33.640 the quarterback room in Picksbury. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:37.560 Right, but they got us. What I'm saying is like 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.000 you're you're buying yourself a year of quarterback points. Yeah, 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.680 but then Rustles up, right, I'm assuming, and then Fields 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.039 is up or you gotta make a decisionless with your 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.679 Ruster and all of a sudden that room can become 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.599 very expensive. And so that's the thing that I get 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.600 is like, what are you actually getting from these decisions? 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.560 I mean, you get Fields in the building, You get 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.400 an opportunity to evaluate him and kind of see how 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.800 he fits in your in the structure of your your building. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.080 But is that I don't know, is long term like 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:02.960 what is like what's the play? 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:03.160 Well? 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.400 I feel like it's a low risk, high reward situation 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:07.760 because I mean it is still I mean, all draft 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.600 pics are important, but it is just a sixth ron 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:11.920 pick at the end of the day. And if you 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.200 potentially hit on Justin Fields, because we've seen what he 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.240 can do, right, especially with his legs, and you've seen 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:18.800 you've seen him kind of grow a little bit as 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.280 a passer. If he continues that development and you're like, hey, 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:22.320 we only got like a six. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.080 Front pick for this guy. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.640 Like, yeah, that's great, And I think I think, I 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.440 think if you feel like you can take that game, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.159 I feel like a lot of teams would actually do 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:29.880 that well. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:31.560 One of the things about that that I find really 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.400 interesting also is like both of these guys are kind 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.920 of outside the numbers throwers, right, they kind of create 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.719 off schedule with their legs. And then this Arthur Smith offense, Yeah, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.800 like they throw play action passes over the middle of 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:46.960 the field, which justin fields doesn't do particularly well, which 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:50.520 Russell Wilson has not done very well. Yeah, and so 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.920 it just seems like kind of a weird fit. And again, 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.000 I do think there's value with the fields thing, because 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.719 Arthur Smith and Marcus Merrio did a great job in 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.120 Atlanta kind of elevating that rushing attack. And do you 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.080 already alluded to this, like they're a team that's built 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.240 on defense running the football, and if you get the 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.280 quarterback out of cost effective number, then you're gonna be 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.080 in a good spot. But again, I don't I think 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.120 they're basically my conclusion after looking at this is there 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.040 gonna be in a quarterback. They're gonna have to make 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.000 another decision on quarterback next year. They might have to 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.000 draft a quarterback next year, and you're gonna have to 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.160 extend one of these guys next year. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:19.800 Poulf a pound. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.680 Is it one of the best quarterback rooms in the league? 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.640 Is it any one to two punch pot is stowing 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.840 quarterback backup that compares to these like the I don't 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.720 think I can think of as Kirking maybe behind a 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:31.960 key down in Alta. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.800 I think everyone gets caught up with the name with 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.000 fields is the game, man, I think like you got 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.320 to think about what, like what's just just what's just 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.120 transpired in terms of value for him? And I think 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:43.800 if it was if it was another guy like, you 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.920 know whatever, Joe Schmoe guy like, I think we'd be like, 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:48.840 oh yeah, they just moved a guy that no one's 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:49.280 that exciting. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.320 But I think that's a lion Pole's problem because I 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.640 think when he said we're gonna trade him and make 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.720 it good, he dropped the value or to pick Dan 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.200 because now I know. 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.840 You haven't which may or may not be true, but yeah, but. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.880 I just feel like Dean, you set yourself up for failure. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:04.640 Because now I know you have to move this guy. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.920 You've made everybody understand that you're taking Caleb Williams number one. 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.040 I'm not finna give you the I'm not finna give 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.760 you a second round pick for Jason Field when I 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.880 know you have to move them. So I think the 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:17.120 Chicago Bears their self front office tied their hands on it. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:17.600 Well. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.200 I think the other thing, too, is like, there's so 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.640 many unknowns about what Russell Wilson is now that I 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.720 can't really I can't have confidence late it's a pound 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.800 for pound, a good year. Last year's a better year 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.040 than he did the year before, but was still, like 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.920 we said, he's not Seattle Russ anymore at all. I mean, 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:34.920 and like you said, he could not be the startup 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.240 by week ten or even sooner, honestly, So it's kind 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:39.679 of hard for me to say that he's like, by 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.959 far and away, like the best li option that you have. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:43.240 Plus justin Fields. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:44.959 Too, So we have a Steelers fan in the building 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.079 and in turn, Caroline and one of the things she 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.880 was saying when she came in was that the play 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.880 for these guys doesn't necessarily match the name. The logan's 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.160 point and The issue that she feels she's going to 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.400 run into as a fan is a minute one struggles, 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.520 you're gonna want the next ten and it's going to 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.680 just be this constant like, well, who should be going 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.000 back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, because 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:09.199 there's no alpha right now there. But I really like 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.280 Justin Fields, and I know I was texting with Logan 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.280 about this, and for a six round flyer on Justin Fields? 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:18.800 Why not? Because he was not great in Chicago to 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.360 start out, got a little bit better, got better because 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.840 the team was getting better, and now they're shipping them 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:25.880 out when the team could be really good. So we 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.520 don't know what Justin Fields could be. And coming over 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.120 with Mike Tomlin and the defense that the Steelers have, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:35.480 and like you've said, Fred, they are ten pass not 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.280 even ten touchdown passes and they're in the playoffs. Like 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.559 he could be something here, and if he is for 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.120 a six round pick, you struck gold. But if not, 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.520 you are back in the quarterback hunt. But you're not 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:47.839 in the quarterback hunt. But you're not in it this 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.040 year because they're picking so far back their package. To 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.719 have to trade up to get a quarterback in this 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.120 draft would be so much more than the flyer for Field. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:57.800 I'm not saying that, but like you're gonna have to 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:00.400 make a decision on Justin Fields's salary. You're not gonna 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.800 get see him play probably this year, like assuming Russell 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.520 Wilson's is the starter, right, so you're gonna have to 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.199 like it. Just I don't know he's in the building. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:08.480 I guess you get to kind of get a feel 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:09.040 for the guy. 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:10.680 Going to play. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.679 He's going to blink. I think he's going to play, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.480 like I think. I think it's a one hundred per 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.559 cent think about it. They don't if they have a 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.120 losing record, he's gonna play. If they have a renting 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.240 record and Russ is not playing, whee they they go 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.800 for a reason to put Jason stuff. 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.440 You just I think about the stuff you just talked about. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.199 They're a defensive lead team that runs the football, and 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.960 you asked Russ to make the occasional play, right, You're 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:37.800 not going to get a true kind of read on 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.480 where Russ is at because he's going to be so 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.280 insulated by the team. And I think that's like, ultimately 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:43.839 what I rest on is like he's not going to 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.960 do enough bad stuff in that Arthur Smith offense, which 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.720 again like if you have a quarterback that can move 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.360 around a little bit, do the own read, do the 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:55.079 keeper game, low leverage, easy like high completion like opportunity 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:55.679 throws for him. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.520 Yeah, I think you're gonna be okay. So that's the thing. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.920 It's like everyone talks about. You're saying the system, is 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.480 the environment so good for fostering quarterback growth? Like how 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:04.760 is he gonna screw it up enough? 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.560 Because Justin Field would most definitely star at the year 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:10.199 with a package. You know, they're not gonna have him 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:12.760 as the better runner and not have a gold line 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.079 justin Field package smart. It's gonna be like if you 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.000 off as a coordinator, I have to whiponize your legs 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.760 when you know, because think about it, I got these 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.359 two quarterbacks in the buildings too, you know, established quarterbacks. 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.880 To keep Justin Fields out on the prize, I have 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.240 to put a package in for him to let him know, 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.120 regardless if rush start, you're going to play almost every Yet. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.640 I'd be curious to know how big that package is 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.000 going to be for Justin Field. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:44.360 And sprawl speculator, so you know when Arthur, when Arthur 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:46.480 was in Tennessee and they had Tannehill and Mariota for 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.880 that one year, Mario had a package. 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.880 Well he was I think Marioda played for like three 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:53.679 plays after he was benched, like it was not a 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:55.600 hole and it's mostly red zone stuff. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.520 So I don't think that. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:11:59.880 To me, based on history, I don't think there's gonna 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:02.120 be many plays for justin field, especially like what we 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.640 know about Pittsburgh, they're always competitive and then they're never 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.240 gonna do much is going to like screw them up 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.080 as far as like draft is er game, the playoffs, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.480 like that's and that's exactly what you think is going 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:10.880 to happen. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:11.920 Active with Russell Wilson. 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:13.439 Well, we don't think they're going to go undefeed, and 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.320 we don't think they're going to be leading every single 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.439 game that they're in. So at some point Russ is 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:18.959 going to have to make a play and he's not 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.760 going to do it, and that's when justin fields hits. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.040 But then I don't know, I think I think that's 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:24.760 how it works, but I think no, But I think 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:28.240 like I think there's there I don't know. It sounds 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.160 like everyone in here is much higher on justin fields 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.800 than I am, and I don't think. I don't think 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.720 he's he's over the course of his time in Chicago, 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.040 I think it's been romanticized to a certain extent. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.559 And I'm not a Justin Fields. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.400 Hater, Like I think he's got talent, he's got ability, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.360 but in terms of playing the quarterback position consistently, he 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:44.920 just hasn't done at a high level. So that's the 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.199 thing that I come back to. It's like, yeah, you 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.480 got a guy who's very talented, our six round pick. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.959 I love that. But in terms of like what is 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.839 he going to be this year for them? Yeah, I 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:54.439 thinks maybe the backup quarterback, you know. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.400 And and I think, like, you're going to be in 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.200 this position where it's like, hey, do we like him 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.880 enough to extend him next year? And that's kind of 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.439 the the player you're gonna run into it. And I 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.400 don't know, I think he's ever gonna get back. I 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.840 don't know it in to see if he ever gets 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.040 back to being in that like starting kind of count, I. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:09.079 Think I think he is. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.480 I think he will have a legit chance to do this, 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.439 and I think Pittsburgh is the perfect stop for him. 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:18.199 Pittsburgh ain't one of those places where they just looking 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.920 to replace everybody. They believe in continuity. And one thing 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.640 that he will have at Stowing next year regards if 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.880 he plays not or not, he would know the playbook. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:30.319 He'll be cheap all right. So at the end of 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.040 the day, he will be the perfect mix for them. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.880 And if they see any growth at practice, any growth, he. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.600 Will be the staring quarterback next year because because Russell 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.400 is only there for one year, and I think I 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.079 think he would take a monumental balling out year for 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:45.920 him to get an. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.120 Extension, Like I really do. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:48.439 I don't. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.000 I don't, cause especially when you have a guy like 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.959 in justin fields are they believe in you know you 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:53.840 we hope and like you think that you can turn 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.600 him into something even better. Four years old exactly, he's 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:58.520 still so young. Yeah exactly. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:00.760 I'm just sorry. It's just so much hope there. And that's. 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:03.040 His Bonnicks. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:04.920 He's twenty five years olt. 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.720 So where where did Canny Pickt go the Steelers? 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.079 Did he just got Philadelphia? 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:12.600 Philadelphia? 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:12.880 Yeah? 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:14.439 So I don't able to play a gee. 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:15.719 That's what I'm saying. So why are we all of 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:16.280 a sudden. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.320 Pickett couldn't play last year, Like we're talking about a 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:19.880 guy that shows. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.720 But I think, I think it's so interesting that when 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.680 you look at completion percentage, throes of the middle of 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.600 the field, Kenny Pickett is significantly better than Justin Fields 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:29.880 and those statistical categories. 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.920 But I have eyeballs he stinks. 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.080 Kim Pickett stink. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.120 But what I'm saying, though, is in terms of production, 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:38.680 everyone talks about how Justin. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.720 Field has improved. He's improved to like a bottom, Like 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.920 I think he's a twenty fifth quarterback in the NFL 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.120 in terms of those kind of advanced Kenny Pickett's thirty two. No, 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:48.800 but I'm saying Kenny Pickett was better. 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:50.880 So and again I'm not saying it's exactly a one 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.720 for one, same situation, But people have this narrative about 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.680 these two players because of the because of the excitement 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:00.320 one brings as a runner, and I'm not again like 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.360 that brings his ceiling and I get it, but like, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.600 I think it's important to keep him where he needs 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.560 to be kept, you know what I'm saying, Like it's like, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:11.600 don't put these lofty expectations. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.760 He sells a lot of growth to do. And I 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:14.200 do think Fred. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:15.920 You bring up a good point, he'll be in the building, 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.000 he'll have an opportunity to grow, and then you never 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.560 know what happens next year. But I just think there's 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.520 this this romanticization. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:23.840 Whatever that word is. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.560 I would don't exist. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.320 We've also seen a year of what a canny picket 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.400 let offense is. It's stale and stagnant. Is that we've seen, 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.720 And justin Fields is can we all agree? 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:36.680 Can we all agree? 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:39.640 How do you characterize more? 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:40.000 Though? 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:40.480 Is that thing? 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:40.920 No? 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.520 No, What I'm saying is, let's talk about each of 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:45.360 these guys floor who floor is lower? 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.440 And I will say Kenny Piketts whose ceiling is. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.880 Higher justin Fields because of the leagues, because he's on 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:55.680 the stronger because I'm willing to invest a little bit 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.760 more in him than I would the other project. Like 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:04.680 Kenny Piggy has shown me flashes of nothing a good 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.520 backup quarterback in his NFL. That's what Kenny pick. 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.280 Do you think the Fields could be a starter with. 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:09.960 The right coach? 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.520 Ceiling is way higher with dustin Fields? I think your 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.360 ceiling you almost damn you hit your ceiling with Candy Picking. 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:17.480 Cool. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.000 So another team that needs a quarterback, right, the Vikings 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:21.920 go ahead logan. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:23.880 Logo. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.160 No no, there's a lot of not commanders talk on it. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:27.640 No, no, no. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.800 But I think that's I think that's good. I think 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:30.320 that's good. 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.800 It's good for the Commanders to think about to right 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.640 in terms of quarterback decisions, because like, there is an 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.040 opportunity here with the Vikings right where it's like the 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.280 Vikings have traded up with the Houston Texans. They've got 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.200 eleven and twenty three is correct, right, So obviously they're 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.200 packaging something to move up in the draft. And I 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:47.800 think a team that they could potentially move up with 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.160 is the Commanders. And I think the Pittsburgh Steeler conversation 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:53.080 is important because one of the things they're going through 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:56.480 right now is this quarterback limbo. Right and right now, 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.560 the Commanders have an opportunity to pick a quarterback, but 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.400 they could also trade back and crew more picks developed 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:04.520 the team. And I just like for the Vikings who 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:06.280 are in this kind of desperation mode to find a 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.760 quarterback after Kirk Cousins leave, what do you think their 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.240 play is here? And who do you think would trade 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:11.480 with them given the opportunity. 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.440 Yeah, I do think the Commanders are that they could 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.359 be in play for sure, because I mean, draft capital 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.040 is so import especially in this draft w it's so 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.800 top heavy, and you can still get if you really 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.480 want to get J. J. McCarthy, or you want to 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.760 get like O Nicks or any the other guys, you 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.840 could get those at eleven or twenty three. The Cardinals 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.760 are also I could also see them moving up. With 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.440 the Cardinals because they have Kyler Murray and I don't 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:32.960 think they're going to move on from him. 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:33.600 At least this year. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.120 They will. Harrison, I don't think they've moved. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.760 I mean, yeah, I agree, But at the same time, 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:42.280 like draft picks, that matters. So I do think, like 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.080 Amy were in that top five, I think it's very 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:46.920 well possible that they could move up and try to 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:47.560 get somebody there. 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.560 First of all, number five is the golden pick that 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:50.119 they're looking for. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.280 You talking about the LA Chargers and you're talking about 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.440 Jim Harbaugh got it wants to add more cheap talent, 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.480 young talented team that he could shape and mold, and 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.440 you're giving him the number five PI you take the 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.280 number eleven pick, you still can get Brock Bowels hit 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.680 number eleven if you Hogebo. Now you still got the 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.280 twenty third pick. Now you can ask you offensive tackle 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.760 like you can do so much if you the charges 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.560 right there. I think the golden pick right there is 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.199 the Charges. It's not the Washington Commanders because we are 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.920 quarterback home Gry team. When now look at the quarterback 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.920 of Home the team that's not Home Greyen. Now the 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:23.480 Chargers stick out because they got Justin Herbert. So I 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.760 think that's the golden pick right there at number five. 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.399 So for me, I think I don't disagree with you. 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:28.960 I think that's a really nice trade up spot. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:30.560 But the problem that I have with that is, like 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:32.560 you are trading up if you go, what is that 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.280 five or six there at six right five? 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:38.040 Day at five five, you're trading for the fourth quarterback. 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:38.960 You know what I'm saying. 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:41.760 You're trading up for jj Orboda whoever it is, right 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.720 and I and I don't think you packaged three first 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.520 round picks to get the trade up for the fourth guy. 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.000 Where you do if you feel like next year's quarterback 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.480 draft is not this year's quarterback draft, Like you know 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:54.760 what I'm saying, It's like they. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.520 Pay people panic people make panic move but. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.520 I think if I'm if I'm them, I want to 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.439 give myself the like I think, I look at San 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.000 Francisco a couple of San Francisco the forty nine ers 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:06.879 couple years ago as the model, like where they traded 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.200 up to two or trade up to three to get 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.680 the second guy, and I think, like, that's ultimately like 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.680 what you're looking at here, right, It's like how high 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.000 can I get to ensure that I get the most 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.280 valuable player at the position. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:18.760 That I'm looking for? Right? 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.960 I don't want to be like boxed into the fourth player. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:23.960 Does that make sense what I'm saying, Yeah. 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:24.560 Totally understand. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.359 But then it has to be a New England trade 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.000 because they feel like they got too many holes to 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.560 just throw a quarterback up in there. 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.600 And I think that's to me, that would be the move. 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.159 True for here too. I feel like we do have 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:37.480 a lot of holes that we're filling in free agency, 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.320 but we're still in team building mode to me, unless 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:44.920 you're if you're two or three with or four? 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.680 Yeah, four is Arizona, Arizona. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:49.840 You're not four, so fun, But Arizona I think could 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:50.280 trade out too. 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.400 But well, I say three or five is the Golden locks. 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.720 Right, if you're not falling in love with whoever that 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.320 pick is going to be, whoever that quarterback is going 0:19:58.359 --> 0:19:59.879 to be, then back up, like why not? 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:00.720 Like you? 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.119 In my opinion, you have to be in love with 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.920 either Drake may or Jena Daniels or JJ McCarthy to 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:06.760 not move back. 0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.399 Well, that's the thing. JJ is who everybody's following in 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.240 love with. He's the odd man out of the top three. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.800 Talk he's like, think about the Tour Draft, think about 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.680 the Joe Burrow Draft. That draft right there, you could 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.639 get a good quarterback and you didn't have to be 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:24.480 at number one like this. The thing is, I think 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:29.840 people feel like, from Cayleb Williams to Michael Pennix, anybody, 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:31.359 I feel like these guys, if they get with the 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.800 right team, right coach, in white situation, then all these 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:36.159 guys could secede in the NFL. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:37.120 Do you feel that way? Yeah? 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:38.520 But if that's true, then why don't you just stand 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:39.000 picking a up? 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:39.200 Yea? 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:40.760 Because I think JJ will be there at eleven. 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:43.000 I don't know that. 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:48.280 But to Freend's point, BO or Pennix or JJ potentially 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:50.399 like it's not outside their own possibility, but one of 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.119 those three dudes will be there at eleven. Yeah, and 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.119 so if you think that's true of all those guys, 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.000 then you don't need to package that twenty third pick 0:20:57.080 --> 0:20:58.760 to move up. But it does feel like that they've 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.080 kind of identified a talent and from you know, the 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.200 rumor mill given. You know, give that the due credit, 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:05.639 you know it deserves it. Like I don't know all 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:08.359 the yes, all the asterisks possible, Like they say they 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:08.960 want Drake May. 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.359 So if you want Drake May, you got to come 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.239 to two. You got to you got to come to two. 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.680 And I think like that's as much as we want 0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:16.720 to talk about, not. 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.920 Three, not three, because everybody's saying to ensure it, you 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:20.600 have to get there. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.440 You have to hope that commanders take. 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.640 But a consolation prize of jayde Daniels is not that bad, 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:28.600 you know, if you if you get to three, you know, 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:29.000 I'm just. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.160 Saying no, and I think we're all saying the same 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:31.439 thing here. 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:32.879 But I guess for me, if they want to get 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:37.320 all the way up to that to their guy apparently 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:39.600 is Drake May, you got to get to two. And 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.840 so I think for the commanders it's really interesting because, 0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:44.000 like I look at teams that have been very successful 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:45.960 of the last couple of years, and you know they've 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.359 there's two models. One is you have Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:51.560 or Josh Allen. The other model is either the San 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.879 Francisco forty nine ers or the Philadelphia Eagles before they 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.200 paid Jalen Hurts, right, where the team is so saturated 0:21:57.280 --> 0:21:59.960 with talent that they can support and insulate and protect 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:02.520 a quarterback. Right, It's kind of the same thing we're 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.159 talking about Pittsburgh. Is it worth it to build that 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.639 kind of like quote unquote super team and then just 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:10.680 be able to put kind of whoever you want in there, 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.560 Put justin fields, put Kenny pick at, guys that aren't 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.040 necessarily top flight players but are elevated. 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:19.320 By the roster in good point calling. Yeah, I don't know, 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.280 And I think when you look at the history of 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:26.120 that elite quarterback guy, anybody who doesn't have the elite guy. 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:27.480 So if you're Peyton. 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:29.000 Manning, you're looking at your outside looking in a lot 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.040 of years, Aaron Rodgers outside looking at a lot of years. 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.480 When you're looking at this group with Patrick Mahomes and 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.639 you've got Josh Allen looking in, Joe Burrow looking in, like, 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:38.800 is it better? Is a more viable option to get 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.520 you to a super Bowl in five years? Build up 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.240 the roster so that you can't lose that last game 0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:45.880 and you give yourself a shot against the best player 0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:47.840 in football. Like that, That's what I come to here, 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.120 and like that's essentially the argument you're having in terms 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.240 of how to build this thing out, Like do you 0:22:52.359 --> 0:22:55.080 think Drake may or Jane Daniels or even Caleb Williams 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.240 can be a top five player at the position, because 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.760 then the roster is less important. If you don't believe that, 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.040 then the roster has to elevate to elevate that position. 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.800 Let me give you all a hypothetical and give me 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.000 your percentage and the chance that something like this could happen. 0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.280 Let's say the Vikings want to move up to two 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:13.840 with us, so we trade back. We trade back to eleven. 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.320 We grab their eleventh pick, their twenty third that they 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.200 just got from the Texans, We grab their second round 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.679 in a first round. It's probably what it's going to take. Ye, 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.560 that's a lot, right, But we still want a quarterback. 0:23:24.640 --> 0:23:27.880 Let's say we're happy with the fourth guy whoever that is, Yeah, 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.280 JJ McCarthy Bonix. The Chargers want to move back, so 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:33.560 we move from the eleven back up using some of 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.360 the capital, not all of it that we just got. 0:23:35.840 --> 0:23:39.040 So now you're getting a starting quarterback at five that 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.280 you're happy with, and you still have a nice haul 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:47.560 of picks, complete built, complete building this roster. That feels 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:53.040 like a lot, right, Like everybody has to be willing 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.920 partners in this, Like we can't just madenforce trade this, 0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.640 but that feels like something possible. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.440 Fluid draft day is possible. A fluid a day'll come 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:05.800 in and say, you know what, we got to pose 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.600 the field. Let's manipulate the draft in our own way. 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.200 If you manipulate the draft by going down and coming 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:14.400 back up. Now you got the pedal to the metal 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:18.480 at that time. First of all, you understood that the 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.160 second and the fourth quarterback are not that different. That's 0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:23.680 what you're saying. Like in your eyes, you're saying that 0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.480 these guys are really jumbled together. So it don't matter 0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.560 which one of these guys I get. I want more players, 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.960 all right, So it's all about what who is that 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.520 second person in the first round that you just I 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:36.040 gotta have. 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.520 Is it a lot too a lot to the past Russia? 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:41.159 Or is it verse? Is it a tackle? 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.159 Like who is making you force your hand to do this? 0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.520 To say, you know what, I need both of these 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.560 guys and the only way to get them is to 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:50.600 trade out of the top two. 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.600 Yeah, No, I think that's a that's a great point. 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:55.840 And like, honestly, I think when you like sit down 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:57.320 and parcel it out, I don't know if there is 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.200 that big of a discrepancy between you know, the third 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.640 guy and the fourth guy, like it's it's situation dependent 0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.879 for sure. But if you could add again, like on 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.000 a roster right now, that is kind of re retooling, rebuilding, 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:10.520 whatever do you want to use there. I do think 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:13.000 the extra draft capital would be extremely valuable, and especially 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.280 if you think that again, like this is what you 0:25:15.400 --> 0:25:16.600 have to think as an evaluator. 0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:17.560 And I don't know if I'm. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.440 There yet, but that Jade, there's not that big of 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.040 a difference between JJ and Drake May. And there are 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.040 some people like you can find them look on the 0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.120 internet and you can find them anywhere and they'll give 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.040 you that they'll say that that's how they feel about 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.880 the quarterbacks. Obviously Minnesota doesn't feel that way. 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.760 So I do think you're kind of expediting your your 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:35.520 team building if you kind of do both of those 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.600 that you trade down in trade beck up, Because yeah, 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.399 you are also because like you said, this team does 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:40.840 have a lot of holes even though they've been added 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.160 about a billion players in free and so they still 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.760 need a whole lot of other key players there. But 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:47.840 you also if you can trade back up and get 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:50.720 a guy that maybe isn't didn't have as high a sealer, 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:52.960 isn't as talented as maybe some other guys out there, 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:54.840 like you still and you feel like you still win 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.080 with them, Like I feel like that's definitely a possibility, 0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:58.320 especially if you feel like you can know a bit 0:25:58.320 --> 0:25:59.159 the roster around them too. 0:25:59.240 --> 0:25:59.400 Yeah. 0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.200 Onder, but I really feel good about what Peters is 0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.360 doing for to me, he's peeling the onions slowly. 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.280 He bringing all these free agents to build a roster. 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:13.040 Then he drafts and over the years he lets the 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.480 free agents go and replaces them with draft picks, and 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.840 that's how he builds his team. So we had to 0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.960 have this big flurry to get these guys on his roster, 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:25.320 and he bringing in guys this x first rounders and 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.960 guys that you know what, if they do catch fire, 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:29.760 I found this diamond in the rough. 0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:31.879 So I like the slow. 0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.320 Progression that he's doing, but it's to me, it's still 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:37.600 pedal to the metal, Like it's not slow building. To me, 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.200 he's fast cooking in the crock pot. But he also 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.840 understands where he wants to get to. And that's a 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.480 draft laden team build by the draft, but this year 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:47.159 it had. 0:26:47.080 --> 0:26:48.520 To be built through free agency. 0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:50.040 Yeah, let's talk about that real quick. 0:26:50.080 --> 0:26:51.520 So obviously one of the moves they made was they 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:55.520 moved on from Sam Howell and they acquired fourth round 0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.520 the third round pick, yes seventy years there ago. I 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.920 was reading my It's trung, So I just wanted to 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:03.640 talk about that real quick because you got, like fred 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.920 Ya hit that perfectly right. He's trying to kind of 0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:10.080 lay the foundation with some good leadership, some older players, 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.160 not long term solutions, and then build through the draft. 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.080 I talent through the draft, I guess the way to 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:16.639 put that. And so how do you feel about this 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.840 moving on from Sam Howell for the acquisition of draft capital, 0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:21.520 especially in the top one hundred of this draft. 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.400 I think your hand with force, because you know you're 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.720 bringing in a young quarterback. I can't have young teaching 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.960 the young, blind leading the blind. I need a veteran 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:32.159 in here to help coach and help more support this 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:36.600 young guy. I was shocked that Sam got so much 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.199 more than a jesting Fields. I was very shocked at 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.119 his quiety, his worth. But then I thought about it. 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.720 Seattle was in love with Sam out of the draft. 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.439 They wanted him. Then he didn't do no better than 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.280 he went up there in the game and lit him up. 0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:53.560 So yes, I think they looked at him as a 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.600 viable starter, like I think they traded with a purpose 0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:01.000 for Sam, like I think everybody else thinks he just 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:04.320 Gino schmilts back up. I think Seattle is looking at 0:28:04.359 --> 0:28:08.280 Sam like he's our future. Like, don't forget Matt Hasselback 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.919 came to Seattle in the same similar fashion, and if 0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.520 you look at his skill set is very met hassle Beck. 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.080 Like I think they browse Sam there for a reason. 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:19.600 I think Sam is their future story. 0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:22.400 So I think that so interesting because like the Justin 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.959 Fields thing, comparison to Sam, how I think is really viable. 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:26.679 One of the things I want to point out here 0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.639 is Sam is under contract. He's price controlled for the 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:31.480 next three years, right, Yeah, And I think that's the 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.240 one thing with Justin Fields that I keep coming back 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.320 to again. I think Justin Fields is a dynamic player. 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.000 I really do like he's a talent, right, but he's 0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.280 not price controlled after this year, and so you're going 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:42.720 to have to either extend him. 0:28:42.880 --> 0:28:43.760 Or move on from him. 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.880 And with Seattle, the value is the talent that Sam presents, 0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.640 but also that he's under a rookie deal for the 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:51.360 next three years. 0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.160 You know that you got the leverage on Justin Fields 0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.120 because you have had this rocky story, Like, I don't 0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.400 have to pay you top of the market. 0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:00.520 But I think that's the concern if you're like if 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.080 you're Chicago, for example, Like let's just say, like if 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.200 they didn't trade him, you have to make a decision 0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.800 about him financially. Let's say they were to keep him, Yeah, 0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:13.400 in In you know forty what is that twelve months basically, right, 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:15.520 And I think that when you look at it from 0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.440 that perspective, you might not need. 0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.040 To pay him top of the dollar, top of the 0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:19.640 market value. 0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.720 But a quarterback is expensive and I'm not sure that 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.000 you could get him cheap, you know what I'm saying. Like, 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.760 so that's so that that's why in this situation moving Sam, 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:32.800 he's price controlled value. There you can be in your system. 0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.360 You can protect him, you can insulate him, you can 0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.920 foster him, you can grow him. Unlike Justin who is 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.920 there for a year and then you've got to make 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:40.040 make a contract decision. 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.880 Well no, and don't forget they have to make a 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:44.160 decision on that fifth year in like two months. 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.360 Yeah, it's like it's in the fifth year. Don't you 0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:47.360 worry about that? Now? 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.200 What they will do is do a clean sleep Keen 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.720 slate deal, just a short deal, two to three year deal. 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:56.320 Like trying to get him on an extension. 0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.960 Yeah, because I think Pittsburgh understand as long as he's 0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.000 in the buildings a to us to let him out. 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.760 Count down the Packers there with Jordan love Ye, I'm. 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.560 Going to say, it's up to us to let him out. 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.440 But we got him now and we'll be best in 0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:11.400 line to negotiate with him because especially if we don't 0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.320 play him, like if we don't play him in Russ plays, 0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:16.920 how easy is it going to be to negotiate with 0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.040 Jason fields as a store in quarterback. It's gonna be 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:19.480 very easy. 0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:20.960 It'd be really astuted to see. But yeah, I do 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:21.280 think that. 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:22.680 I think that's one of the reasons you see the 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.520 discrepancy there in value. So let's talk about some Washington footballer. 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.040 What do you think, Jason, Yeah, I think that's a 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:31.360 good idea. We're going to do our top fifties on 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:33.160 our big boards. Each of us is going to go 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.960 through and give them. So here's Washington's first six. 0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:38.800 Picks in the draft and why the top fifty is 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.640 important here for our listeners. So we have a first 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:43.960 round number two overall, we have the number thirty six, 0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.160 the number forty from Chicago that was the Montes Sweat trade. 0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.719 We have the sixty seventh trade. We have this seventy 0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:53.800 eighth sixty seventh pick, seventy eighth pick from Seattle that's 0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.440 from Sam Howe. And then we have the number one 0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.560 hundred from San Francisco that was Chase Young. 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:01.360 Chase Young. 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.880 So when we do these top fifties, good chance some 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.000 of these players might be here on the Washington roster. 0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.920 A very good chance, very very good chance. Yeah. 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.320 So the point of this exercise is to show that 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:21.080 for every single talent evaluator from somebody that really grinds it, 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:25.040 like Logan, former players like Fred, a staff writer like Zach, 0:31:25.200 --> 0:31:28.520 and just a guy like me, that we all value 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:32.080 things differently and how the player falls on our big 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.760 board is different than how we think they will be drafted. 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.920 That is a very clear something I need to say, 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.520 very clearly, right, this is not the order we think 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.840 they're going to go in the draft. This is just 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:50.080 how we personally rank these players, no doubt, very very 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.600 important to keep in mind. We'll ever fans get all there. 0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.360 This is the first time like i'd ever like made 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.800 a big board. So I was looking for like some inspiration, 0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:58.640 you know, and the time that I was looking at 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:02.280 and like everyone's i'd YoY on. It is completely I 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:05.360 mean I've seen somewhere they value all the quarterbacks in 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.000 like the top ten, some some similar, a little more, 0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.840 a little more spread out. Like it's it's it's almost 0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:13.880 like you know, you mad drafts are kind of eventually 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:15.040 all everyone kind of picks. 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.680 The same people at some point. Yeah, it gets closed. 0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.200 Yeah, but but big boards, it's like it's like in 0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:21.760 Jurassic Park when they're trying to like close the doors 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.440 for the velocirapher get then it's like a sea of data. 0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.560 That's exactly what big boards are like, cause they're all different. 0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.000 Right, exactly. So that's a good place to start, Zach, 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:32.880 why don't you tell us what how did you craft 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.480 your big board? What did what were the things that 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.640 you were thinking about when it's like why this guy 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:38.280 over this guy? 0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:41.040 Well, so essentially what I was doing was I was 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.520 I was trying to figure because out I will say, okay, 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:44.840 who who are you go at the top? Who the 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.120 guys are thinking at the bottom, and who are some 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:47.600 guys I think are kind of in the middle, right, 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:49.960 And so I would separate it by fives, so I 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.840 would go these are top five, these are bottom five, 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.320 and then I worked down from there and eventually, you know, 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.040 I would I come up. I'm kind of almost like 0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:57.400 a scatter point thing, right, I'd to say, all right, 0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:59.360 this guy goes here, this guy goes here. And then 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.440 as the more players I got on there like well, 0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.239 actually I think this player goes above, or I think 0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.960 this guy goes a couple of couples posts below, and 0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:07.520 then obviously some guys like hey, I don't really know 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:08.960 that too much about him. So let me watch some 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:10.600 film on him, let me like do some little bit 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.280 of reading under see where he goes. And I think, oh, 0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:13.680 like he goes a little bit higher. 0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.080 Maybe a little bit lower. So it was definitely an 0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.320 interesting exercise to do for sure. 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.040 And you know, I'm curiously which I'll think about it, 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.600 but I think I've got a pretty solid obviously, you know, 0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.920 as a former offensive lineman, Like, I've got a lot 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:30.640 of offensive linemen on my board, which is also good 0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:32.240 because this year's draft has a lot of good ones 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.240 on there. But I'll say there's a lot of edge 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:35.920 players out there that I really like, a lot of 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.000 receivers obviously, the quarterbacks are stuff around there in the 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.240 top twenty. So but yeah, I'm, like I said, I'm 0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:42.720 very curious. 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.320 See how everyone's going to react to this? 0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:45.640 Do you make curious? 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:47.400 So yeah, for me, I go like, kind of what 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.680 I think is like a surefire prospect or as close 0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:51.120 to surefire as you're going to get. So I have 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:52.920 like a group of like one to four at the 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.719 top of my thing, and then I go kind of, well, 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.760 who has who are like high floor players that I 0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:59.479 think are going to be good pros, like right out 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.080 the gate, and I've got between five and fourteen are 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.040 those kind of that chunk of players, and you know, 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.600 like obviously there's some flex there, like as the process 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.279 goes on, I might add one to the top group 0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.239 or take one away or whatever it is. And then 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:11.960 there's like kind of the guys that I think are 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.480 potentially like home run players, but there's a question with 0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.120 their game, you know, like there's an issue with the evaluation. 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.720 They all have issues, but there's like pretty glaring questions. 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.759 Like just as an example, fifteen to twenty three, I've 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:25.640 got JJ McCarthy in there because I think. 0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:26.600 His ceiling's very high. 0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:28.640 I think he's very, very talented, but you know, he 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:30.680 hasn't thrown the ball ton, so I don't know for sure, 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:32.800 right And then I've got kind of like guys that 0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.160 I think it'd be solid, like solid starters at the 0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.000 NFL level, but there's more questions as you go down 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:39.840 the list, there's more questions, and I try to clump 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:43.440 them together in a way that kind of meets my brain. 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:44.319 Function, you know what I'm saying. 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.200 So like from twenty four to forty, kind of guys 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:48.360 that I think are going to be good players in 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.839 the NFL. And then guys that I think forty one 0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.560 to fifty that I think are talented that right now 0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:56.440 probably aren't starters, but I think have the work ethic, 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.640 the physical profile to be something more. 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:00.480 So that's kind of how I broke it up. And 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.319 it just kind of gets down the list. 0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:03.880 So as you go down the list, there's just more 0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:06.680 and more questions about a player, and as you go 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:08.359 up to the top there should be fewer and fewer, 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:10.920 especially from the film, which is our evaluation tools. That's 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.320 kind of my my process. 0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:16.160 Yeah, this is my first big board too, and I 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.759 think I want to say sorry for is every year 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.600 I do this, I'm always like, this is the most 0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:22.719 subjective thing of all time. 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:25.400 Yes, exactly, yea, every year I do it. That's exactly 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:27.960 what I was going to say. This is completely subjective 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.600 when I was making my big board, because I wanted 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.960 to be true to myself and what I saw, and 0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.200 like it was hard for me not to get pulled 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:38.719 to like what Daniel Jeremiah sets or what PFF says 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:40.960 because I look at their boards to be like, am 0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.640 I like way off basic? And every now and then 0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.880 I would be and I'm like I had to fight it, 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.360 and a part of me was like, well is it 0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.080 confirmation bias? And I'm fighting So it's just an internal 0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:52.239 struggle to make this. 0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.600 Look it's looking at a piece of art like there's 0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:59.520 technically no wrong answer, but there's also like, clearly you're 0:35:59.560 --> 0:35:59.919 off base. 0:36:00.200 --> 0:36:01.440 Why certain thing? 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:04.080 If Kayla Williams is like my tenth best player, like 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.560 what like I can't even like take that serious, right? 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.520 So what I what I did to try and mesh 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.440 these two this conflict that I was emotionally having with 0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.160 this was I tried to do like a tier system, 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:18.359 right basically, first, like, these are guys that I think 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.239 are going to be very good players, maybe not right away, 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.480 but they have the ceiling to be very good players 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:28.160 with little downside, so high floor, high ceiling, right kind 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.960 of thing. And then then I would put in the 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.840 tiers of like, well, the home run hitters could be 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:36.839 in here, or they could not fan out, or they 0:36:36.880 --> 0:36:39.080 could be solid. It's it's kind of that middle group. 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.920 And then guys that like show a trait or a 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.560 couple of traits that are like wow, if that hits, 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:46.960 that's good, or they have a lot of good things 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.399 and there's one glaring trait, like you said, Logan weird. 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.480 It's like, maybe that doesn't work out. And then once 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.120 I made those tiers where they're in no particular order, 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.759 then I went in and I just like, I just 0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.840 trusted myself. I was like, based on if I was 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:04.439 having to take this guy or this guy, who would 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:07.319 I take? Everything equal, not looking at how a team 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.239 structured Alex Pitcher anything, just who would I take? And 0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:12.160 I had to go back to the film a lot 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.560 because I would look at two guys next to each 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:17.000 other be like, why do I like you more than 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:20.319 the other? And I couldn't answer that except kind of dead. 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.080 So I had to go back and rewatch it. And 0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.400 that's what I was doing this morning. I had to 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.719 rewatch some stuff just to feel confident about this. 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:28.279 And Fred, and to that point, I literally just made 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:28.719 a change. 0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.000 Yeah there, you know this is going to be ever flowing, 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:34.919 ever flowing our big boards? Fred, how did you create 0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:37.440 your big board? I try to look at guys and 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:40.320 I do tears, like you said, I do my tears. 0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:42.600 I do who do I think could be a future 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:43.200 pro bowler? 0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:43.920 Superstar? 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.120 I do Who's going to be a Day one starter, 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:50.920 who could develop into a starter, and who is pretty 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:52.760 much probably gonna be a backup. 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.200 All right, So we know this, and I think this 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:58.120 is what really blows the draft away. 0:37:58.680 --> 0:38:01.319 No matter how close we get to getting these picks right, 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.120 all these players won't be good in the NFL. 0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.759 And I think that's the scared report about it. 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.640 No matter how good they measure, no matter how good 0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.000 they look at the combine, no matter how good the 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:15.480 film look, all of these guys will not be good pros. 0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.840 So I try to group guys together. And when I 0:38:18.880 --> 0:38:20.800 start to do that, I create a tree. 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.200 And once I started at the top of the tree 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.960 with my Caleb Williams the start of the tree, and 0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.560 I get to the bottom of it, and it'll lay 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.239 these guys out. So I just lump them together and 0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:33.480 make sure I try to I try to look at it, 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.800 not what you did in college. How's it gonna translate 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.160 to the NFL. And a lot of this, and I 0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.120 hate to say, it has everything to do about where 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.160 these guys get drafted in It's kind of out of 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.520 their hand because you could be a good player to 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.879 get drafted in Chicago and you got a new head 0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:52.320 coach next year. Like, so it's so many variables in 0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.520 this so I try to be as fair as possible, 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.560 but also try I keep my feet on the ground 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:58.480 and understand that all these guys won't be good. 0:38:58.760 --> 0:38:58.960 Yeah. 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.399 Absolutely. So here's how we're gonna do this process. We're 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:06.080 gonna count down from fifty to one, and uh, we're 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.800 just gonna fred you can start. Then it will be Logan, 0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:11.759 so be me, and then the next time we'll talk about, hey, 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:13.680 what are some surprises where you see here? 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:16.160 What's a guy that sticks out to you here? Next 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:17.600 started out with oh, stat. 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.560 Is that concernative? All right, So that's where we're gonna Yeah, 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.200 we're gonna go fifty to thirty six, so roll right 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:22.600 on through. 0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.960 So okay, so fifty I got Xavier Worthy Robins, You're 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.000 out of Texas forty nine, Patrick Paul Tackle out of Houston, 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:34.040 forty eight, Jordan Morgan tackle out of Arizona, Marshall Neelan 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.799 Edge Western Michigan forty six, Roman Wilson Robinsteriver, Michigan forty five, 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:44.280 Ricky Piersoll from Florida, Kean Coleman from FSU, Cooper Baybay 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:51.480 from Kansas State, Uh, Devandre Sweat Texas to Tavian Sanders 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:58.520 from Texas, Brandon Fisk from FSU. There's Zach Frazer from 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:03.320 West Virginia at Drian cooper A and m Troy Franklin 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:07.480 from Michigan from Oregon, and then kool A McKinstry from Alabama. 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:12.040 Nice, very nice. Yeah, yeah, so a little surprised. I'm 0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.560 not surprised. I shouldn't be surprised. I actually forgot to 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.759 put Cooper Bebe in my list. He's a guy that 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.239 I think is really talented on the inside playing guard. 0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:22.880 How did you come to him? Like being in your 0:40:22.960 --> 0:40:25.080 top fifty and like what was the thing that was like? 0:40:25.200 --> 0:40:25.799 This is the guy? 0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.279 I think his footwork is really really good. I think 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.600 he's like I'm just so in love with what he pulls, 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:31.400 Like it's. 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.360 It's you mentioned the poll in the last show. Its 0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.880 like there's nothing there's more to playing guard than pulling. 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.719 Yeah, it's it's so gorgeous. I know, I know, but 0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:40.080 like it's such a good I like him too. 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:45.200 He's very physical, he finished his blocks like, uh, he's 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:47.600 on film. Like when I watch him, I think I 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.320 just smile every time I watch him, because like, I 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.200 just think that's a damn good rep. Every time I 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:52.759 see him. 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:53.960 I think he's a heck of a football playing when 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.120 I think I mentioned this when I talked to some 0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.080 people at the Combine Molo line coaches, they were like, 0:40:57.160 --> 0:40:59.600 he's it was like, you know the guys you think 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.320 it was like Troy uh Fatano and all these guys, 0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.000 but then and like Grant Barton, and then it was 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.320 like Cooper Beabay was the third guy. You know, it 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.520 wasn't like Christian Haynes. It was he was very very 0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:12.120 high people sowards. The other guy was Sanders from Texas 0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.240 to tight end making your top fifty. 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:19.080 Why I think his ability as a receiver is obviously 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.319 is really what I'm hoping for. Right He still needs 0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.800 to really work on his blocking, I would say, but 0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:27.680 I think in today's NFL, I think you kind of 0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:29.799 want you especially not as a number one tight end. 0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:31.560 I think you can you can work with him as 0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:34.000 a receiver and kind of let him develop as a 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.120 blocker in time, I think, which is why he's not 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:37.400 like he's still kind of. 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:38.600 Sort of low on the fun of fifty. 0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:39.840 Yeah, what was he what was your number one. I 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.640 think he was forty one forty one. 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.440 Yeah, yeah, so I think I like, I like the 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:45.880 potential of what he could be. 0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:46.359 Yeah. 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.200 For me, it's interesting because like all these tight ends, 0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.719 even even what's his name block bowers to a certain extent, 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.160 like what is your role at the next level? Like 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.040 because you're not like he didn't run as well as 0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:56.600 I was hoping Sanders didn't run as well as I 0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:59.120 was hoping. You're on like a four six nine four 0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:02.040 seven one. Yeah, so like you're not like a blazing 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.279 fast guy. Are you a big slot because you can't 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.600 really compete in line? Like what's your usage pattern? And 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:08.960 I think that's what's scaring me off of guys like 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.080 that in my top fifty obviously block buyers in my 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.120 top fifty spoiler alert, But it makes me a little 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.200 bit unsure, is like, how do teams use you when 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:20.160 there are so many talented receivers that have different skill sets? 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:23.120 Like what I prefer him or Johnny Wilson to play 0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:24.840 the big slot, you know, just as a comparison, I 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:27.359 get Johnny Wilson probably in the fourth round, maybe third round, 0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.719 depending on how you value him. But it just makes 0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:31.799 me think for the value of the pick in terms 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.359 of big slot player that can run a full route tree. 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.960 There's other guys like that that I may be like 0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:38.520 a little bit more. Jase, you want to go through 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:39.440 your fifty. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:40.719 Yeah I can. I want to say Zach that what 0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.920 I think is interesting is the wide receivers. Obviously, there 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:45.800 are a lot of good wide receivers in this class. 0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:48.400 And I'm just curious on the back end here of 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.719 our top fifty, who's going to make the cut for 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.239 each of us individually, Because I have a lot of 0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:55.640 wide receivers. They're not the same as yours. Here is 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:57.360 not the same as mine. There are a couple of overlaps, 0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.320 and it's just the wide receiver talk to me, is 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.040 just going to be really interesting once I hear what 0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:04.000 Fred and Logan also have to say. But we agreed 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.480 on number fifty because I started with Xavier Worthy from 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:12.040 Texas to surprise the speedster. Yeah, he just snuck in. 0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.839 It's the forty. The forty pushed him in. I'm still 0:43:15.920 --> 0:43:19.640 concerned about his route running, the ability he's small with right, 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:22.680 but yes, but there's something to that speed. It can 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:25.279 be used and the whole Tank Dell thing kind of 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.480 like throws a monkey wrench into evaluations. It can be good, 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:31.120 all right. I have Ennis Reckchell Junior, the cornerback from 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:34.600 Zer at forty nine, Patrick Paul the tackle from Houston. 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:37.040 At forty eight. Jarvis Brownlee Junior, a guy I fell 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:38.600 in love with at the Senior Bowl and just have 0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:40.920 been impressed with ever since. He's a cornerback from Louisville. 0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:45.520 Eighty Mitchell the wide receiver from Texas. Forty six, Devandre 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:50.960 Sweat another Jason guy have forty five. Michael Pennix, the 0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:55.240 quarterback from Washington. Forty four Jonah Ellis and edge from Utah, 0:43:55.719 --> 0:44:00.480 Christian Haynes from Yukon, Javion Bullard the safety for Georgia. 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:04.440 Mike Sandersill. He is a corner that is probably gonna 0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.520 be in slot, right, going to be in slot. I 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.080 found myself surprised that I had him so high, considering 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.120 he's kind of a specialist. 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:14.239 And he's also small. But he's good football, Yes, very 0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:15.120 good football player. 0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:19.360 Chop Robinson, penn State. I have at thirty nine bo Nicks. 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:23.359 Your friend's already mad I bo Nicks at thirty eight. 0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:27.400 Peyton Wilson, the linebacker from Incy State. And then rounding 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:32.040 out this fifteen here I have Lad McConkie wi really 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:32.720 from Georgia. 0:44:32.760 --> 0:44:35.200 Thirty six, Yes, thirty slower than I thought you'd have it, 0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:36.160 a little lower than. 0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.520 I thought he would go, but the right. That's why 0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.959 I wanted to talk about wide receiver. It's surprising because 0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:42.879 the ones I have in front of him, I think 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:45.759 are I think you're maybe a little better better, so 0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:47.680 we're a little higher stealing. 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.200 The one that I was surprised about there is Brownly 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.160 from Louisville. And again he's a guy that you mentioned 0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.879 this on the last podcast. Film just okay, fine, It's 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:58.880 like he does some good stuff, but it's nothing. He's 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:03.120 had a great post season process. Senior Bowl was awesome, 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.520 Combine was awesome. How do you weigh that in relation 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:07.279 to what his film is. 0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.160 Yeah, this is one of those ones where I had 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:12.399 to be true to myself. Right, Like I've heard all 0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.440 the time, do not fall in love with a guy 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:18.560 based on the combine or like the outside football stuff. 0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.920 And he was okay right, Like I even I look 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:24.000 back at my notes. When I first watched him, I 0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:26.879 was like, yeah, good player, right, And then when he's 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.960 at the Senior Bowl one on one good looked really good. 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:35.239 So it's like, uh, I see the something there, and 0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:37.400 this is kind of where like he does a lot 0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:41.320 of things, well nothing great, but then I saw great 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:44.080 at the Senior Bowl. So I'm not sure where to evaluate. 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.520 Maybe it was a scheme thing, but maybe if it 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:49.640 hits like I think he's about here. 0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.600 Just to give you an example, that's like why Darius 0:45:51.640 --> 0:45:52.840 Robinson has shot up boards. 0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:53.000 Right. 0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.080 You saw traits, you saw physicality, you saw heavy hands, 0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:57.400 you saw a pursuit. 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.200 It put you in uncomfortable positions. 0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.720 But basically your point is he was playing five technique Missouri. 0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.239 He plays a true edge kind of stand up player, 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:08.880 and he looks like that dude, So I think like 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:10.799 maybe they're just using him differently at the Super Bowl 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.200 and you see different skill sets, Fred, you got your Yeah, 0:46:13.560 --> 0:46:14.480 the thirty six. 0:46:14.520 --> 0:46:17.239 Fifty to thirty six fifty is Patrick Paul. 0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:20.960 We got his brother here in his uh and don't 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.719 make me and it's Ray kraw I got him at 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:25.920 forty nine. I got bow knicks at forty eight. I 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.320 know this shock shot because y'all think I hate on 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.479 bow knicks. I was attack because I think I played 0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:31.160 against his daddy. 0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:32.160 Now think about it. 0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.560 You think I got Brandon Fisk at forty seven, all right, 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:39.960 Zach Frasier guard forty six a zaber look get because. 0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.920 None of y'all had him in y'all top fifty. I 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:44.279 got him at forty or five? 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:50.640 Accurate, he does, I got him at forty four. Malachai 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:56.560 Crawley Cory. Yes, I think he is a faster Deebo 0:46:56.719 --> 0:46:59.560 Samuels like I think I think when he gets in 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:04.960 the lead. I'm telling you it's something about this kid. 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.400 Forty three. I got Chris Jenkins forty two, key young Coleman. 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:09.960 I know he ran the slow forty, but I think 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:13.399 he's a football player. Numbers don't do anything for him. 0:47:13.719 --> 0:47:17.120 Forty one Braylan Trice. I think he gonna actually have 0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:19.719 a better pro career than he had college career. 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.200 Ed forty I got TJ. Tempa cornerback. 0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:23.640 All right. 0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:24.560 That's what I like to do. 0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.359 I like to make sure the cornerbacks is in there. 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:28.760 And he's a guy that earned it, all right. Thirty 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.640 nine Ricky Prorell that's his name, Prorell. 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.640 Uh piersong song peer So why. 0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:40.399 What looked like me? Like Perell what like this, whatever 0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:41.200 y'all want to call him. 0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:43.960 I think he's gonna most definitely be a better pro 0:47:44.520 --> 0:47:46.200 than a college player, all right. 0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.680 I got Mitchell or Donald Mitchell at thirty eight. 0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:53.080 I got Kingsley uh seem Matalia at thirty seven, and 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.760 at thirty six, I got Michael Pennix junior. 0:47:56.320 --> 0:48:00.120 Nice. So I like that Bylan Trice. Braylan Trice think 0:48:00.120 --> 0:48:00.640 you had him at. 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:04.000 Four Ragland Trice and forty one forty one. 0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:08.160 So interesting guy because I really really like his film. 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.360 But he had like a disastrous combine. 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.680 Yeah, you noticed a couple of my guys. I had 0:48:13.840 --> 0:48:14.680 terrible combine. 0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:18.040 And I don't think everybody is good as being on 0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.359 the stage and showing up for people in times. 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:22.719 He just made some weird decisions, Like he weighed it 0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:24.480 ntil he was a two seventy five that's what he 0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:27.520 played out in college, big power ad dresser. Yeah, came 0:48:27.560 --> 0:48:31.640 in at two forty to forty, so like you. 0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:35.799 Lost what thirly pounds? And then but then he ran 0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:39.400 a four to seven one, so you're like, okay, what happened? 0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.080 And then he didn't listen to instructions very well in 0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:42.840 the team drills. 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:47.000 So that's my type. I animal he plays good foot 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:50.600 past me, but Bud he plays again. 0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:52.759 I was so high on him and then he goes 0:48:52.800 --> 0:48:55.480 to the common I'm like and just just the decision making, 0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:57.919 like you lost thirty five pounds from when the season 0:48:58.000 --> 0:48:58.279 you just. 0:48:58.360 --> 0:48:59.879 Got one me for over hype. 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:01.440 I know, but that's a weird time. 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.560 That's a weird decision. Guy, that's a weird decision though. 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:05.959 It's weird the decision making. 0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:07.640 I like the. 0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.400 Randicism of this guy because it tells me all I 0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:16.760 could do is play football, Like I love. 0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.360 I love guy. I love like that, Like, hey, hey, Bryce, 0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:22.480 do you want to go on the trip to France? No, 0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.359 they don't play football all over it Like he more 0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.040 of a run pain guy like pay Like, what you 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.319 want to do? Football? You got anything you like doing? 0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.680 Season football? Trice Is didn't. 0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:34.600 So he was the guy that was borderline for me 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.920 top fifty, but again just on the outside looking in, 0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:40.440 because I'm like, who's advising what's happening there? 0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:43.200 I mean, at least so for me, he's probably like 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:44.960 a top sixty five player, But yeah. 0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.920 He's right there. We all have Patrick Paul in this 0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:47.919 in this area. 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:51.680 Yeah, So I got Marshall Kneeland, the guy from Western Michigan, 0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.319 good motor, good player testedbut Patrick Paull at forty nine, 0:49:55.000 --> 0:49:57.360 Mike Sanders still from Michigan to and Andre Sweat at 0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.880 forty seven. For me, that's a jacent guy. Xavier like 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.719 at fred forty six, TJ. Tampa the probably the best 0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:04.759 tackling corner in the class, a little uncertain about his 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:08.200 role forty four, key On Coleman forty three. Kamari Lasser 0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:09.520 and no one else had him on their list. Again, 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.520 a guy that didn't test well, but the film's really good, 0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:14.520 so I'm a little bit unsure about whether he deserves 0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:16.160 to be in or not. But he's in forty two. 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:19.920 Brandon Fiskey forty one. Peyton Wilson from NC State, And 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:21.359 that is kind of my bottom tier. 0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:24.040 You get up there, tell me hot what was it 0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:26.400 the comebine. They put him up there because the film 0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:29.000 in the comebine don't match out there, So I so 0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:29.480 let me. 0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:30.040 Finish my list. 0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:32.399 So that's forty one, alcome back Edrian Cooper forty, Jordan 0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:34.800 Morgan thirty nine, Xavier Worthy thirty eight. The Tech of 0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:38.040 the Receiver from Texas Kings assumatia, same as Fred thirty seven, 0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:42.440 kool Aid mckinnistry thirty six. So with regards to Peyton Wilson, 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.879 I like his film a lot. I think he runs well. 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:48.640 He's got that sideline, the sideline ability to meet, the 0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:51.680 injury history, and the fact he has thirty inch charms 0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:53.880 and it shows up on film when he's taken on blocks. 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:56.400 I just am not the most confident that that athletic 0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.000 profile is going to translate. That's why Adrian Cooper is 0:50:59.000 --> 0:51:01.319 a spot ahead for me. Yeah, because he's got thirty 0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.360 four inch arms, He's violent to the football, he sheds 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:06.919 blocks in in a way that's translatable to the NFL level. 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.479 So that's kind of how I made that distinction. But again, 0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:11.000 I think he's a good football player, but he is 0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:14.479 in a different tier for me than Edric Cooper. 0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:15.080 For example. 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:17.239 I think those kangaroo oms is gonna hurt him in 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.239 the league. I agree, I just really do. I think 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:20.719 guards are going to get on him quick. 0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:23.120 I think his I think his best thing is if 0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:26.040 he plays in the defense where he got a nose 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:28.480 going over top of him and just allows him to 0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:29.400 run sideline. 0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:31.759 Sounds almost better, like to your point as like a 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.120 true will like where he's almost out of it, like 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:36.719 almost like a strong safety type player. Yeah, because he 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:39.360 has a really hard time, and I think about like 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.840 Cooper bebe getting on him like he like there's no 0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.759 way he could. There's he has no tool right to 0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:46.759 get off with his hat and hands. He's just not 0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.200 strong enough in his upper body. So that's why he's 0:51:49.239 --> 0:51:51.000 down there for me. All right, So now we're doing 0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:53.919 what are we doing? Thirty five one one? 0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:57.200 Yeah, all right, so I'll start out with Kingsley Sue 0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.160 Maataiah dude, Yeah. 0:51:59.160 --> 0:51:59.799 Thirty five. 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.440 I've been coming around on him. 0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:03.520 It's to me. 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:05.560 I watched more films last night, and he's a mess. 0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:08.439 Sometimes he's a mess, but he is an athletic freak. 0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:11.160 He's an athletic freak and like you just can't. There's 0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:13.080 like not that many people that are six five and 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.560 three twenty they can run afi walking around on the street. 0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:19.239 He's my like I'm a as as a form, like 0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:21.279 I said, I'm a stickler for the technique one not 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:22.040 very technical. 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:24.680 No, this is my attempt at him. 0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:28.839 He's he's Morgan Moses coming out of Virginia. Yes, he's 0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:30.400 Morgan Moses when he came. 0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:33.359 Out, all right, that's pretty good, bright actually coming out 0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:35.000 of nowhere. That one nice. 0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:39.320 Thirty four Christian Haynes at a Yukon. 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:40.440 That's high for him. 0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:41.759 Yeah, I don't know. 0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:43.440 I don't mean like in a bad way, but like 0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:44.080 I like him. 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:50.120 Yeah, thirty three ly get Wow, Yeah, thirty two they're 0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:51.880 Han Newton, Illinois. 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:56.920 Yeah, Darius Robinson edge, I love it. 0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:57.480 J C. 0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:03.640 Latham Okay, Yeah. Then you got Michael Pennix Junior. 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:04.680 What pick are you own? 0:53:05.080 --> 0:53:05.520 Twenty eight? 0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:05.880 All right? 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:06.359 Twenty eight? 0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.200 And we got Graham Barton twenty seven, we got that 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.920 coming twenty six, Chop Robinson, we got it in come 0:53:13.040 --> 0:53:18.880 twenty five am, Marius Mimes twenty four, Brian Thomas Junior. 0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:20.680 Did you look at my paper? 0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:22.200 It's probably copied the cent? 0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:28.560 That's all what co GM's Yeah, let's see all right. 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:32.319 We got Nate Wiggins Clemson. What number twenty three? 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:39.080 Bo Nicks quarterback, Morgan and Cooper Jean twenty one? Yeah, 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:39.600 twenty one. 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:43.240 Wow, we ain't this? You and I am not so different? 0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:46.560 I gotta ask you. JC Latham. I don't know where 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:46.759 he was. 0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:49.040 What was the number it was lower the thirty thirty. 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:52.759 Why so low or why relatively they're compared to consensus 0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:53.719 a little bit lower? 0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:56.080 On him, I think I want to look at him. 0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:58.359 I think he's look when I watch him as all right, 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.520 this guy. I read all the stuff about it. Everyone's 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.080 in love with him, think he's great. And I watched him, 0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:04.640 I was like, oh, he's he's. 0:54:04.520 --> 0:54:07.200 An average Alabama Okay, Like. 0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:10.120 I wouldn't say like he does the job. I think 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:12.680 it does it fine. I never look at him like 0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:13.120 with Cooper. 0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:13.440 Baby. 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:15.920 I look at him and I'm like, wow, that is awesome. 0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:18.680 As for lath And I'm like, Okay, that's a win, 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:19.239 that's that's a. 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:20.279 That's a solid rep. 0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:22.280 I don't think you like motor. 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:23.640 No, not necessarily. 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:25.759 I don't love his motor either, But I don't think 0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:29.160 you can underrate at the college level just dominant, getting 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:31.560 on getting on base. No, yeah, like you just got 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:33.239 to win the ones you're supposed to win. And I 0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.800 think there's some inconsistency to his efforts, some inconsistency to 0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:39.480 his like mental but when he is physically going in 0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:41.840 the right direction, like he's a special guy. And I 0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:43.520 was talking to a Scott at the combat about him 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:45.400 who it was his number one tackle and I was 0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:48.080 not there and I'm not there now. But I think 0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:50.319 when you just just like this is what I did 0:54:50.440 --> 0:54:52.960 last night talking about stuff. I watched every offensive lineman 0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:54.640 in order of all the film I could find ye 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.000 just down the list, And when you just compare them 0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.200 apples to apples like that, you see that he's a 0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:01.319 little bit better asp then you think he's a little 0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:02.960 bit stronger than you think, he's a little bit bigger 0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:03.160 than you. 0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:04.239 Think, heavy hands heavy. 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:07.279 There's value there. But again I don't disagree. Thirty is 0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:08.520 I think very reasonable. 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:10.760 I think the big thing is like I was expecting 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:13.640 high expectations. I wanted to be blown away, and yeah, 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:15.440 I just didn't necessarily see like that. 0:55:15.719 --> 0:55:17.400 I kind of went through a similar process, and I 0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:19.840 think we're just I'm like a month ahead of you. 0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:21.640 So you'll come back around on it, and then you'll 0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:23.160 get out of him again and you'll go back and 0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:23.719 forth like you do. 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:25.080 So Fred who you got because you guys have the 0:55:25.080 --> 0:55:26.400 same muster parent You. 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:29.239 Know what, Hey, he stole my recipes and now he's 0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:32.880 still in madrev list. At thirty five. I got Kamari 0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:36.880 Lasston uh At thirty four, I got a Cooper Edrian Cooper. 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:39.280 At thirty three, I got xab You're worthy. 0:55:40.160 --> 0:55:40.279 Uh. 0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:43.160 At thirty two, I got Newton d tackle. This is 0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:44.640 what we had in coming right there. 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:49.440 Uh. At thirty one, I got Sweat d tackle tixas. 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.560 At thirty I got Cooper Baby this. I love it, 0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:59.120 bab Fred, I like, I love him. Man, you remind 0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:02.240 me of pack Man. He just goes around just chumping 0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:04.480 up defensive line and just eating them apart. 0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:07.000 I don't like that. That's a good comp it's a 0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:10.239 good cop. I'm not being facetious. He kind of looks 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:10.400 like that. 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:13.839 No, Like, did he just eat this dude? 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:15.359 Yeah? Yeah, he's that dude. 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.080 He's mean a right. Twenty nine, I got Darius Robinson. 0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.960 I love that dude all right. Twenty eight I got 0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:25.520 Jordan Morgan offensive tackle. Twenty seven Why no, no no. 0:56:25.800 --> 0:56:29.080 At twenty seven, I got Graham Barton at twenty six, 0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:32.840 Chop Robinson twenty five, Nate Wiggins. 0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.800 I love skinny Conels and he is skinny as it 0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:36.880 is and I love it. 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:39.120 Hey, by the way, he put on ten pounds first 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:43.000 Pro day. So waiting at one seventy two with ye. 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:45.160 Yeah, how about that. 0:56:45.600 --> 0:56:49.520 Yeah, all you got to do is drink yolks yolks 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.640 and you'll get there. At twenty four, I got Brian 0:56:52.719 --> 0:56:55.239 Thomas Junior. All right, most definitely, I think he's going 0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:57.200 to actually be one of the better receivers. 0:56:56.840 --> 0:57:01.040 In his draft. At twenty three, I got tearyan On I. 0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:03.840 At twenty two I got j C. 0:57:04.040 --> 0:57:09.000 Layton, And at twenty one I got for Shannu oposite 0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:09.879 tackle pin State. 0:57:10.400 --> 0:57:12.799 All right, so let's ask you about Jordan Morgan. Real cool. 0:57:12.800 --> 0:57:16.040 We haven't talked about him a ton. Yeah, so you're fred, 0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:16.360 go ahead. 0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:17.320 He's a dancing bear. 0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:19.280 He doesn't. He's a good athlete. 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:22.680 He's a dancing bear. I'm talking about yogi. He's one 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:25.960 of these guys, big body, light feet. I could take 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:26.640 that in attack. 0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:29.040 So I just for context, I have him at thirty nine, 0:57:29.120 --> 0:57:31.960 so I see the athlete. But I have some questions, Zach, 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:34.160 and I can see your face all screwed up. 0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:36.400 I just I'm just not that impressive. 0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:40.919 Yeah, his physicality I think is an issue for me. Yeah, 0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:44.520 like you mentioned Cooper, bebe like dude, no question about 0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:47.360 his physicality. Jacy Latham, no question about his physical with Morgan, 0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:49.680 You're like, you can hit this guy hard if you want. 0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.080 That's on the table. And again, good athlete. 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:53.440 Like the way he moves, and I think he'll go 0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:55.800 high because of that, because you can't find big guys 0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:56.440 that move well. 0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:58.760 Yeah, but I'm always had. 0:57:58.680 --> 0:57:59.960 Some Brian McKinney in him. 0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:03.320 He has these Like I watched Brian McKinney dominate in 0:58:03.360 --> 0:58:07.120 the NFL because not because he was so vicious, because 0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:08.480 he just invoked people. 0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:09.560 He enveloped the he. 0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:12.640 Can literally did because he hugs people a lot. 0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:15.320 Yeah, but he was also dominated. 0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:18.600 But Brian McKinney is I think he's six eights, like 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:22.200 six seven year for like three seventy five. Jordan Morgan 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.280 is six ' five, He's got thirty two inch arms, 0:58:24.320 --> 0:58:26.800 He's like one hundred and three hundred and ten pounds, 0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.600 so not the same stature. I feel like he's gonna 0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:30.480 be a guard the next level. 0:58:30.560 --> 0:58:31.520 But I think so too. 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:34.680 But yeah, like the guy that is mixed mixed reviews 0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:38.240 apparently just had to work out with with the Dallas Cowboys, 0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:40.920 and his agent put out that the Cowboys think he 0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:41.600 can play tackle. 0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:45.320 I think that's agent talk, But yeah, who you got Jason? 0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:48.160 All Right, I'm ready for a lot of wows. Well, 0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:50.720 I'm gonna fight. I'm gonna fight you guys here, all right. 0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:55.320 So thirty five Darius Robinson Missouri, Kingsley Sua Mattia follows 0:58:55.400 --> 0:58:58.280 him up from BYU. Chris Braswell from Alabama. 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:01.080 Want to put him in it high? 0:59:01.120 --> 0:59:05.520 Wow, amarus Man's thirty two probably a little none of 0:59:05.560 --> 0:59:06.120 you have said him. 0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:07.480 Yeah American, we got. 0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:11.600 Him, got him right, That's what I'm saying. Twenty five Okay, okay, 0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:16.480 Tyler Newman safety from Minnesota, Graham Barton from Duke DJ Tampa, 0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:21.600 Fred and good player st. Xavier Legett I have at 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:24.680 twenty eighth. I really like Leg. 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.640 I like Leg like I do. He's a monster man. 0:59:28.280 --> 0:59:31.439 Yeah yeah, yeah, Nate Wiggins, Fred, you and I both 0:59:31.640 --> 0:59:35.720 like him. The skinny corner, but doesn't like to tackle that. 0:59:35.920 --> 0:59:38.600 Ry when you guys kissed the ball that you don't. 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:40.120 That's why he's down here. 0:59:40.680 --> 0:59:43.880 I was going to say, probably, no, not probably the 0:59:44.040 --> 0:59:48.480 best coverage player in the class, but doesn't doesn't tackle 0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:49.600 very smooth. 0:59:49.600 --> 0:59:51.520 You know what I ta college, But you know they 0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:55.840 say his cumpy is men. 0:59:54.360 --> 0:59:56.440 He'll be then he'll be a good player. But you 0:59:56.960 --> 0:59:57.959 would mix up, man. 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:00.480 What I'm saying. But he does it. 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:00.960 He will. 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:03.680 He doesn't mix get how he needed to write coordinator 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:05.800 to say, you know what, you don't tackle, you don't play. 1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:09.080 I hope he gets that. Yeah, Ricky who is that? 1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:17.120 Fred Pearson? I call him Ricky Rick wide receiver twenty six. Yeah, 1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:19.600 Jared Verse, that's real. 1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:23.720 I mean I'm with that a little bit. 1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:29.760 Yeah, a little Tyler Geiton, Oklahoma. Yeah, Jersine Newton from Illinois, 1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:31.720 kool Aid McKinstry. 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:36.640 The Cornerbackliday that though you got to make twenty two? 1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:38.960 Yeah, a little high. Yeah, I can talk about him 1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:41.080 looking and then Brandon. 1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:44.240 Fisk is it fiskysis Fisk. 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:45.360 That's why I love him. 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:49.040 I I'm prepared to depend motor, but also I love. 1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:51.640 I love the motor, I love the violent hands. 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:54.240 I just he's so just the first one I want 1:00:54.280 --> 1:00:56.800 to talk about was t J. Tampa. Okay, why do 1:00:56.880 --> 1:00:57.400 you like him? 1:00:57.600 --> 1:00:59.360 And you're pretty high on him because I had him 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:02.000 him at him at forty five, So I like him 1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:02.360 a lot. 1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:06.440 The Knicks coming of Antioine Winfield Senior, he feels like 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:07.720 tweezy will I know. 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:11.280 But can he to me? He's not scheme agnostic necessarily 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:13.640 like he is. He's big. I think he's six one 1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:15.720 and a half six to two tennis. 1:01:16.040 --> 1:01:16.240 Yeah. 1:01:16.640 --> 1:01:18.720 I love how he hits, Love how he plays that 1:01:18.840 --> 1:01:21.240 cover three like Seattle coverage. You know what I'm saying. 1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:24.000 Yeah, he's got he's got really long arms, right, and 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:26.680 he uses that length to be disruptive even if he 1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:29.600 can get behind a little bit and doesn't have the 1:01:29.640 --> 1:01:31.600 best recovery speed. 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:32.000 Yeah. 1:01:32.080 --> 1:01:34.560 Right, But I think he has really nice movement for 1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:38.240 his size, and he's really he's willing to mix in, 1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:39.320 like he's. 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:43.520 A willing player. I can see him playing some safety 1:01:43.560 --> 1:01:44.640 too later on in his career. 1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:45.400 It's kind of what I got to. 1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:45.800 Yeah. 1:01:46.000 --> 1:01:48.000 I like him as a player, but I that's one 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:49.560 of this that's one of those ones where like he 1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:53.280 could be the sixtieth player on someone's board, yeah, and 1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:56.960 like the twenty fifth yeah, because schematically he's not going 1:01:57.040 --> 1:01:58.080 to be for every everybody. 1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:01.400 I do have some negatives, like the negatives I marked 1:02:01.440 --> 1:02:03.280 down or the cons that can be worked through, is 1:02:03.560 --> 1:02:05.120 it looks like every now and then he can get 1:02:05.160 --> 1:02:08.640 turned around a little bit lost and they played lots 1:02:08.640 --> 1:02:11.880 of his own coverage, so he for me to figure 1:02:11.920 --> 1:02:13.880 out me play it was hard. 1:02:14.120 --> 1:02:15.680 I think I think you can play moddle to see 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:17.040 him at the Cedar Bowl for that exactly. 1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.520 And it's okay for me to nickname Brandon, I mean 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:21.720 Braidon Fist. Could I name him the King pen. 1:02:27.720 --> 1:02:28.960 Kind of like a mist. 1:02:31.000 --> 1:02:32.720 So the other thing about Bradon Fist is I like 1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:33.200 him a lot. 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:35.040 He's like one of my favorite players in the draft, 1:02:35.160 --> 1:02:38.800 but I have reservations about his ability to play consistent. 1:02:39.280 --> 1:02:42.320 Now yeah, yeah, because he's got short arms, he's not 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:45.040 under he's not undersize, and so he's you know, he's hard. 1:02:46.320 --> 1:02:46.760 You can't. 1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:51.360 Though, like because my mar Mike was a little bit shorter, 1:02:51.400 --> 1:02:53.520 and you feel that on a down to down basis, 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:55.240 Like I don't feel you know, you got you got 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:57.560 a crazy long But I'm saying like it is a thing, 1:02:57.960 --> 1:02:59.440 and there are guys that can overcome it. But I 1:02:59.440 --> 1:03:03.360 don't know if I saw that, like Elijah Cantsey, twitchy 1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:06.360 kind of you know, jitterbug moves. He's fast and he 1:03:06.480 --> 1:03:09.000 plays hard, but like I feel like that's a pretty 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:11.919 well that's his ceiling is is I don't know twenty 1:03:12.080 --> 1:03:12.760 what is it twenty one? 1:03:12.800 --> 1:03:13.200 You had him? 1:03:13.440 --> 1:03:15.200 I don't think it's happened pretty high. I have been 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:18.320 pretty high. I think he's got a high floor. I 1:03:18.360 --> 1:03:21.320 would say. I know you're talking about like the arm length, 1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:24.000 but I just love the motor. I love that he's 1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:26.120 violent with his hands, Like these are the things I 1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:28.600 look at that I'm like, well, maybe he can overcome some. 1:03:28.640 --> 1:03:29.720 Of these, That's what I'm saying. 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:32.720 And maybe like his if his ability to go hard 1:03:32.800 --> 1:03:34.080 and you know, and get a lot of effort, is 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.160 that gonna be enough to overcome some of his physical limitation. 1:03:36.240 --> 1:03:36.720 Yeah, I don't know. 1:03:36.960 --> 1:03:37.400 I hope so. 1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:40.280 But so then that risk that question, Zach asked, that's 1:03:40.280 --> 1:03:43.280 why for me, he's down in kind of that bottomish 1:03:43.400 --> 1:03:45.480 teer for me, you know, like in that thirty to 1:03:45.720 --> 1:03:46.760 thirty five range for me. 1:03:47.240 --> 1:03:49.400 But I have questions about it. But again I don't 1:03:49.400 --> 1:03:52.120 disagree with your analysis. Yeah, want me to go real quick. Yeah, 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:53.080 this is thirty five. 1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:56.280 Zach Fraser from West Virginia the center, Darius Robinson defensive 1:03:56.360 --> 1:04:01.200 end from Missouri, Ricky pier Saw, Florida receiver him love 1:04:01.320 --> 1:04:05.600 him tested really well. Michael Pennick Junior thirty two, Cooper 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:07.520 Dejen thirty one. I think of it more is a safety. 1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:09.360 That's why he's so high on my list. Lad mcconchney 1:04:09.400 --> 1:04:12.640 at thirty, Graham Barton the center guard tackle from Duke 1:04:12.960 --> 1:04:15.120 Chop Robinson twenty eight. This one hurt my soul a 1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:16.560 little bit. I didn't want to put him at high, 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:20.320 but I did. Bo Nicks at twenty seven, Jackson Powers 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:22.240 Johnson twenty six. I know that's really different from where 1:04:22.280 --> 1:04:25.800 Jason has them. Jazer Newton from Illinois the defensive tackle 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:28.680 twenty five, Nate Wiggins twenty four, And that to me 1:04:28.880 --> 1:04:31.160 is like that tier of guys that I think can play, 1:04:31.640 --> 1:04:34.040 that could be a starter at some point, but aren't 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:36.880 quite there yet. And then the next tier for me 1:04:37.080 --> 1:04:39.400 are guys that I think have like home run nobility. 1:04:39.800 --> 1:04:41.520 So these next three guys keep that in mind when 1:04:41.560 --> 1:04:42.080 I read them off. 1:04:42.480 --> 1:04:42.760 J C. 1:04:42.960 --> 1:04:45.480 Latham twenty five, There twenty three if he gets in 1:04:45.520 --> 1:04:49.040 the right spot. I wanted to put Amarus Mims so 1:04:49.360 --> 1:04:53.280 high because when you watch his games, it looks like 1:04:53.400 --> 1:04:54.240 dude sleeping out there. 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:55.720 It looks like he's playing with a bunch of high 1:04:55.720 --> 1:04:56.200 school kids. 1:04:56.320 --> 1:04:56.720 Twenty two. 1:04:56.800 --> 1:04:57.640 He only played seven games. 1:04:57.680 --> 1:04:59.400 But if you watch him against Ohio State last year, 1:04:59.600 --> 1:05:02.520 you watch against Alabama this year, Like, those are NFL 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:03.800 players and he. 1:05:03.920 --> 1:05:06.080 Just is like throwing them up and speeding them out. 1:05:06.120 --> 1:05:08.560 I'm just like this, someone is going to fall in 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:10.040 love with this dude. But the fact that only played 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:11.760 seven games had to put him down here. And the 1:05:11.840 --> 1:05:15.600 next guy on my list is Olu Fashanu from Penn State. 1:05:15.760 --> 1:05:19.800 Interest kind of love it is low, but I'll tell 1:05:19.840 --> 1:05:22.240 you why. I don't know why why. So one thing 1:05:22.280 --> 1:05:25.120 about Forshano, I love the athlete. He's a tremendous athlete. 1:05:26.400 --> 1:05:30.000 One right, he was twenty But again, like I, I 1:05:30.160 --> 1:05:33.160 tear these a little differently. Like for me, like this 1:05:33.320 --> 1:05:35.440 is a guy that I would for sure draft, no 1:05:35.560 --> 1:05:36.960 doubt about it. He's going to get a shot to 1:05:36.960 --> 1:05:39.960 start a tackle. I just have some reservations about his 1:05:40.160 --> 1:05:43.720 hip height. He has a really hard time sinking his hips. 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:46.400 He's got very tight ankles, which makes it hard for 1:05:46.480 --> 1:05:48.000 him to connect at the second level. 1:05:48.160 --> 1:05:50.480 And when he gets an elite bull rusher, he has 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:52.160 a hard time sting down the ball. 1:05:52.520 --> 1:05:55.680 So I again love the athlete, love it, but I 1:05:55.800 --> 1:05:58.439 just those are questions that are gonna make it really 1:05:58.480 --> 1:06:00.320 And he's a young player. He's going to develop like 1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:02.240 right system, and he's a nerd for football from what 1:06:02.280 --> 1:06:04.880 I understand, But those are some questions that I'm like, 1:06:05.080 --> 1:06:07.360 So if you look at all those guys, right, Oliviashano, 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:08.880 I think could be a home run. I think he 1:06:08.960 --> 1:06:13.360 could be a generational guy. But there's four significant questions. 1:06:13.400 --> 1:06:17.000 So Maryusmims, same thing, but he's only played seven football games. 1:06:17.040 --> 1:06:18.040 Can he stay healthy? Right? 1:06:18.280 --> 1:06:21.120 JC Latham? Can we get your motors started? And can 1:06:21.200 --> 1:06:23.360 it stay going for a whole game? And are you 1:06:23.560 --> 1:06:26.480 athletic enough and twitched up enough to vertical past at 1:06:26.560 --> 1:06:27.000 von Miller? 1:06:27.560 --> 1:06:28.720 So that's why I love those guys. 1:06:28.760 --> 1:06:30.560 But that's the that's what That's where like coaching is 1:06:30.600 --> 1:06:32.160 really going to have to play a big role in 1:06:32.280 --> 1:06:34.840 like getting trying to get Forashano's hips to go down. 1:06:34.960 --> 1:06:37.200 So because he's not getting blown away into a quarterback. 1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:39.360 I want to talk about Mims real quick for a second. 1:06:39.400 --> 1:06:40.600 Have you brought him up yet? Zach? 1:06:40.760 --> 1:06:40.960 Yeah? 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:42.760 I got him at twenty five? 1:06:42.840 --> 1:06:43.720 And where did you have him? 1:06:46.240 --> 1:06:46.520 All? Right? 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:47.760 So you can talk about him in a second, but 1:06:47.880 --> 1:06:49.440 I want to talk about Mims because I had him 1:06:49.440 --> 1:06:53.720 pretty far down comparatively, and it's because I just don't 1:06:53.760 --> 1:06:56.320 feel we have enough data points and we're just looking 1:06:56.400 --> 1:06:58.600 at like the measurements of a guy built in a lab. 1:06:58.760 --> 1:07:01.760 Yeah that's good. Coaches and gms excited. 1:07:01.920 --> 1:07:04.400 But this isn't a draft. But it's clean. 1:07:04.640 --> 1:07:07.240 It's clean, sleek with a sheep. With him, I'll tell 1:07:07.240 --> 1:07:08.520 you right, no bad habits. 1:07:08.600 --> 1:07:10.880 Even though he hasn't played a lot of games, he 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:13.720 han't picked up bad habit. It's a clean slate protocol 1:07:13.840 --> 1:07:17.920 with him. And you cannot go into a gym and build. 1:07:17.760 --> 1:07:21.560 Six, eight, three and fifty. I'm sorry that moves the 1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:22.680 way this guy moves. 1:07:22.960 --> 1:07:26.320 And the one thing Logan said, the only problem I 1:07:26.400 --> 1:07:27.959 got with him, and that's why I got him higher, 1:07:28.840 --> 1:07:30.200 is can he stay healthy? 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:34.160 Like other than that, I'm sorry, I have to get 1:07:34.240 --> 1:07:35.840 him on my team by any means. 1:07:35.920 --> 1:07:36.160 That's it. 1:07:36.440 --> 1:07:38.640 So yeah, the one the one thing i'd say to you, 1:07:39.080 --> 1:07:40.919 as you know, like in terms of in the games 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:43.240 you've watched, if you watch all seven games, there's not 1:07:43.320 --> 1:07:45.800 a lot of bad Like he has a great ability 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:48.960 to kind of get this his feet separated vertically, you know, 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:51.880 to get that vertical kit slut. He understands his relationship 1:07:51.960 --> 1:07:54.760 to the quarterback in pass pro. He uses his length well, 1:07:55.080 --> 1:07:57.760 he can sink, he can move in space, and he. 1:07:57.760 --> 1:07:59.560 Can have the speed and he can hand the speed, 1:07:59.640 --> 1:08:01.960 the power power to speed, and he's so big. 1:08:02.120 --> 1:08:03.680 And again, like when I say he's out to lunch, 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:05.280 it looks like he's sleeping. It just looks like it's 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:07.560 easy for him. And you know, Fred said this to 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:09.240 me about corners, and I think the same thing is 1:08:09.240 --> 1:08:10.360 true for offensive lineman. 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:11.240 You want it. 1:08:11.360 --> 1:08:14.120 You want pass pro specifically to look easy, and I 1:08:14.200 --> 1:08:16.639 think with with Mims it looks easy. And again he's raw, 1:08:17.200 --> 1:08:21.200 but man, there's a lot there. And again it's the 1:08:21.240 --> 1:08:24.080 same thing with Fashan, who like I like Fashan, who's tape. 1:08:24.160 --> 1:08:26.200 Yeah, you're swinging for the fence here and you've got 1:08:26.320 --> 1:08:27.479 all He's got a nice swing. 1:08:27.640 --> 1:08:27.800 Yeah. 1:08:27.840 --> 1:08:29.400 And so that's what I'm saying, Like these to me 1:08:29.479 --> 1:08:31.639 are guys that I this is for me. It's twenty 1:08:31.680 --> 1:08:34.960 three to fifteen where I'm like, I like the athlete, 1:08:35.040 --> 1:08:36.840 I like the ability, but there's some questions about what 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:37.360 they got going on. 1:08:37.560 --> 1:08:39.600 So it's sort of similar to you know, I was 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:41.599 looking it was writing the mock track money, which, by 1:08:41.600 --> 1:08:44.840 the way, check it out on Commanders Dot Common. And 1:08:44.920 --> 1:08:47.639 I was looking at Trevor Sikima's he had us getting 1:08:47.640 --> 1:08:51.200 Austin Booker out of Kansas. Now there's there's really one 1:08:51.280 --> 1:08:54.880 really good year for Austin Booker, but there's almost nothing. 1:08:54.640 --> 1:08:59.439 Else on him. So it's a I thought it was 1:08:59.600 --> 1:09:01.080 under anyway. 1:09:02.200 --> 1:09:04.760 Yeah, so, yeah, there's not a whole lot of film 1:09:04.800 --> 1:09:06.840 to look on, but the film is so freaking good, 1:09:07.360 --> 1:09:08.840 just like you have to take a chance on this guy. 1:09:08.880 --> 1:09:10.840 Same thing with the Mary Smails, like, yeah, there's not 1:09:10.920 --> 1:09:13.040 a whole lot out there, but I won't him, but 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:15.680 you want him because the film that is out there 1:09:16.080 --> 1:09:17.360 is damn good. 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:19.519 Yeah, all right, all. 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:20.240 Right, so I love it. 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:22.640 Marriagemans. By the way, I was just, I was just 1:09:22.760 --> 1:09:24.439 My argument was just the data points. 1:09:24.800 --> 1:09:27.000 It's a good talking point, but it's again it's like, 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:29.360 that's the question. There's a reason he's not he's here, 1:09:30.080 --> 1:09:32.719 he's not top ten, right, Like, there's a reason he's down. 1:09:32.600 --> 1:09:36.320 There top twenty, Logan, why don't you go you So I. 1:09:36.320 --> 1:09:39.599 Got Adami Mitchell at twenty, I got Tyler Guidon at nineteen. 1:09:39.720 --> 1:09:42.679 I got JJ McCarthy at eighteen, I got Brian Thomas 1:09:42.760 --> 1:09:45.799 Junior from LSU. At seventeen, I got Jared Versu at sixteen, 1:09:46.080 --> 1:09:49.439 and Dallas Turner at fifteen. And then that's my kind 1:09:49.479 --> 1:09:52.160 of mid tier there that I've been established, and my 1:09:52.240 --> 1:09:56.000 top tier guy fourteen Terry and Arnold thirteen, Byron Murphy 1:09:56.080 --> 1:09:57.680 from Texas defensive tackle. 1:09:57.720 --> 1:09:59.880 Twelve Lat too lat too or LAT two lat too, 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:03.160 excuse me? And eleven brock Bowers from Georgia. 1:10:03.479 --> 1:10:06.560 Nice, very nice, And what was that from twenty to 1:10:06.640 --> 1:10:07.920 twenty twenty to eleven? 1:10:08.120 --> 1:10:12.000 Yea twenty eleven all right. At twenty, I got Tyler Guiden. 1:10:12.200 --> 1:10:15.559 I love him, damn dog. All right at nineteen Jackson 1:10:15.600 --> 1:10:22.600 Powells Johnson eighteen, Lati seventeen, JJ McCarthy sixteen. 1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:25.560 Cooper Gen I am in love with this guy. I 1:10:25.640 --> 1:10:28.320 think he is. I think he's one of the best 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:29.880 defensive playmakers in this draft. 1:10:30.439 --> 1:10:35.960 Fifteen I got Jared Verse fourteen, Marius Mems thirteen, Queen 1:10:36.760 --> 1:10:40.840 Mitchell twelve, Byron Murphy eleven. 1:10:42.000 --> 1:10:47.519 What's his name? F U A G A. Yeah, I 1:10:47.560 --> 1:10:49.559 ain't on a butcher butchered enough Dames. 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:54.320 All right, cool, I'll go in then you can go Zach. 1:10:55.000 --> 1:10:56.800 I have that twenty I have Cooper de Gene. We 1:10:56.840 --> 1:10:58.880 should definitely talk about it. We haven't talked about him 1:10:58.880 --> 1:11:03.040 on other pods. Nineteen is JJ McCarthy, eighteen quinnyon Mitchell, 1:11:03.360 --> 1:11:07.280 seventeen Jackson Powers Johnson, the best name in this class 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:10.479 for it just fits. Look at him, You're like, yeah, 1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:10.960 that's your name. 1:11:11.120 --> 1:11:12.120 He sounded like a chipping Dale. 1:11:12.200 --> 1:11:12.400 Yeah. 1:11:14.000 --> 1:11:18.599 Sixteen is Byron Murphy the second, the tackle from Texas, 1:11:18.680 --> 1:11:22.720 defensive tackle from Texas, Terry and Arnold, cornerback from Alabama, 1:11:22.920 --> 1:11:27.600 Jaden Daniels from LSU. I have at fourteen, Troy Fatanu 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:32.040 from Washington, at thirteen, Dallas Turner from Alabama. And then 1:11:32.400 --> 1:11:34.920 I round this one out with Brian Thomas Junior, the 1:11:34.920 --> 1:11:37.879 wide receiver from LSU at eleven. 1:11:37.960 --> 1:11:41.360 Wow, you feel very I'm high on him. I don't 1:11:41.360 --> 1:11:43.400 know aboutam dead high on him, but I'm high. 1:11:43.280 --> 1:11:47.639 On so twenty Taly Geiden, then he got nineteen Jared 1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:53.519 Vers eighteen, Byron Murphy, seventeen, jad McCarthy sixteen, Jackson Powers 1:11:53.600 --> 1:11:57.400 Johnson another again, all time great name. Fifteen Terry and 1:11:57.520 --> 1:12:03.000 Arnold fourteen Troy Fatanu, thirteen Quinon Mitchell these last year, 1:12:03.000 --> 1:12:05.000 I kind of went back and forth on twelve Dallas 1:12:05.080 --> 1:12:06.840 Turner and then eleven layout to Lattu. 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:09.080 All right, yeah, I like it. 1:12:09.400 --> 1:12:10.360 We have a lot of the same. 1:12:10.880 --> 1:12:11.639 It's not surprised. 1:12:11.680 --> 1:12:12.840 Yeah, this is like kind of the meat. 1:12:13.160 --> 1:12:14.479 So A couple of things I want to touch on 1:12:14.600 --> 1:12:16.680 there is how did you guys make your decision on 1:12:16.880 --> 1:12:19.200 edge rusher? Who was the number one edge rusher, because 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:20.680 that's one that I think people kind of go back 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:23.639 and forth on. Mine was lat Too, followed by Dallas 1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:26.920 Turner than Jared First are fifteen sixteen so interchangeable basically, 1:12:27.680 --> 1:12:29.000 And then how did you guys make those. 1:12:29.120 --> 1:12:31.800 Dallas Turner was my number one guy off of help 1:12:31.800 --> 1:12:34.840 alone health help alone. I think a lot too is 1:12:34.880 --> 1:12:37.760 the most talented. I think he's the longest. I think 1:12:37.800 --> 1:12:40.600 he has the most upside. But I think plug and 1:12:40.720 --> 1:12:44.360 play ready right now. Dallas Turner is ready to give 1:12:44.400 --> 1:12:45.400 you high level football. 1:12:45.520 --> 1:12:48.360 Yeah, and I flip flopped it, but had the same 1:12:48.439 --> 1:12:51.400 reasonings as Fred, if that makes sense. Like I haven't 1:12:51.439 --> 1:12:53.519 even I haven't gotten the lat Too yet, but he's 1:12:53.640 --> 1:12:58.200 my top edg rusher. Dallas Turner is second. I would 1:12:58.720 --> 1:13:03.439 I think is the better player. That's why he's higher here, 1:13:03.760 --> 1:13:06.919 but I would not draft him over Dallas Turner, probably 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:10.280 because of the health concern, but I think he's I 1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:12.280 think he's by far the best edge rusher. 1:13:12.600 --> 1:13:12.800 Yeah. 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:15.320 I think I'm going on straight up talent. He has 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:18.000 a full leoti lot has a full like a full arsenal. 1:13:18.040 --> 1:13:20.000 And when you're able to get these premier, premier tackles 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:22.800 in the NFL, you you're gonna need every single one 1:13:22.840 --> 1:13:24.480 of those tools in the toolbox. 1:13:25.120 --> 1:13:28.000 And the key next out Because if I got Dallas Turner, 1:13:28.200 --> 1:13:30.320 who hasn't been used in all these pass mood that 1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:33.000 I could teach now, he becomes even more deadly win. 1:13:33.120 --> 1:13:35.880 I think it's I think people overestimate how easy it 1:13:36.000 --> 1:13:37.559 is to teach someone pass rush. 1:13:37.760 --> 1:13:37.920 Yeah. 1:13:38.720 --> 1:13:40.160 So that's one of the things with Dallas Turner. 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:43.519 He's productive, but he's productive because he's a big, freaky athlete. 1:13:43.560 --> 1:13:45.840 You know, he's got thirty thirty four and a half 1:13:45.880 --> 1:13:47.840 inch arms. I think he had a forty inch vertical. 1:13:47.880 --> 1:13:49.599 He ran a four to four to seven in the combine, 1:13:49.680 --> 1:13:51.960 Like he's a freak athlete. Yeah, but you see a 1:13:52.000 --> 1:13:55.160 little bit of inconsistency with his technique, with his awareness 1:13:55.200 --> 1:13:58.560 his football iques a little bit like it's not not 1:13:58.640 --> 1:14:01.479 super high and so's it's like, you know, and I 1:14:01.560 --> 1:14:03.479 think that's the thing that makes me kind of go like, 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:07.200 there's a level of risks there because it's you, the 1:14:07.560 --> 1:14:11.840 the athletes there, but the the mental football stuff and 1:14:11.960 --> 1:14:14.479 that kind of the nuance of it is not always there. 1:14:14.720 --> 1:14:15.880 And then he's Jared Verse. 1:14:15.880 --> 1:14:17.000 I kind of feel the same way, like I like 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:19.759 Jared versus lot great power, rusher, good, feel good instincts 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:22.800 place hard. So he's so tight in the hips. I 1:14:22.880 --> 1:14:24.800 wonder if he'll be able to kind of turn the cone, 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:26.120 turn the corner at the NFL level. 1:14:26.200 --> 1:14:28.120 You guys watched Jean claud Van Damn movies. 1:14:28.160 --> 1:14:28.960 Oh yeah, yes, I did. 1:14:29.200 --> 1:14:29.880 Was it wasn't? 1:14:30.000 --> 1:14:32.040 Yeah, yeah, that's what layout to you, lat too looks 1:14:32.080 --> 1:14:34.000 like to me is Jean Claude right when they just 1:14:34.120 --> 1:14:36.080 come in him and he just uses his hands and says, 1:14:36.800 --> 1:14:39.040 the guy just loses balance, it goes off. That's what 1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:42.479 it looks like with him. He's just his karate master almost. 1:14:42.800 --> 1:14:45.880 His hands are so good, his counters are so good. 1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:49.320 His and then he bends and moves so well that 1:14:49.560 --> 1:14:52.720 it's the only the only thing is the health risk. 1:14:52.960 --> 1:14:57.000 I mean, being declared you can't play anymore medically. It's 1:14:57.320 --> 1:15:00.439 c LA's like, ah, you're fine, a little concerned. 1:15:00.640 --> 1:15:03.479 It's just a nick in itself, that's the concerned part. 1:15:03.520 --> 1:15:05.000 But man, is he tow The other thing I. 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:08.679 Want to ask about real quick, there is Jaden Daniels safe, 1:15:10.280 --> 1:15:13.519 said Jason. Yeah, okay, so so and again like this, 1:15:13.720 --> 1:15:16.000 just to be clear, like it doesn't mean he's I 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:18.840 want him to be drafted. I understand, but I don't. 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:21.600 Just to be clear, I don't disagree with this. Like 1:15:21.920 --> 1:15:23.400 there's certain times when you see her here something and 1:15:23.439 --> 1:15:26.439 you're like, that's impossible. But I think when you talk 1:15:26.479 --> 1:15:28.880 about some of the nuance of Jade and Daniel, you 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:30.880 can get here, but you can also get to two 1:15:31.160 --> 1:15:33.040 the second best plays. Absolutely know what I'm saying. 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:36.400 Very very high ceiling, very high ceiling. I am scared 1:15:36.439 --> 1:15:38.439 of how low the floor could be for him. That's 1:15:38.479 --> 1:15:41.519 what I'm scared of. Why I'm scared of his frame 1:15:41.560 --> 1:15:43.760 and his running. I know there are counter arguments to it, 1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:47.080 so I'm afraid of injury with him because I've seen 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:51.600 it before with quarterbacks built like him, especially here his 1:15:52.560 --> 1:15:54.760 I was trying to talk through this with Logan at 1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:58.000 one point. He has good arm strength, but it doesn't 1:15:58.080 --> 1:16:00.560 look like he like it doesn't look like he's zipping it. 1:16:01.080 --> 1:16:05.320 There's not The fastball just isn't quite fast. 1:16:06.000 --> 1:16:07.680 If I was going to articulate it. He's got an, 1:16:07.840 --> 1:16:10.599 he's got excellent mechanics. He's got a very quick release, 1:16:10.920 --> 1:16:13.040 and he relies on the release more than. 1:16:13.000 --> 1:16:16.880 The velocity, so he doesn't throw over the middle of 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:17.680 the field as much. 1:16:17.920 --> 1:16:19.200 Much. Wasn't x to you. 1:16:19.680 --> 1:16:22.360 It wasn't asked to But I can be like, well 1:16:22.560 --> 1:16:23.439 that maybe that's. 1:16:23.280 --> 1:16:25.479 Why, because well and also if you look at you, 1:16:25.560 --> 1:16:25.840 that's why. 1:16:26.000 --> 1:16:28.720 What's the down there? And uh in l s what's 1:16:28.760 --> 1:16:31.240 his name? I forget his name, but they have iterations 1:16:31.280 --> 1:16:33.000 of the offense where they do throw over the middle field, 1:16:33.040 --> 1:16:34.840 so obviously they spoke to his skill set there. 1:16:34.960 --> 1:16:37.720 Yes, also didn't didn't Lamar Jackson not throw to the 1:16:37.760 --> 1:16:39.519 middle of the field whenever he was you, no. 1:16:39.560 --> 1:16:40.559 No, they was. He was an approach. 1:16:41.240 --> 1:16:42.439 He ran a pro style offense at he. 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:45.200 Went a PROWN office. Now he go to differ between 1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:48.600 Jayson Danis and Lamar Jackson. Both of these guys can 1:16:48.680 --> 1:16:52.120 get to running wise, get to zero to one hundred. Yes, 1:16:52.280 --> 1:16:55.240 the one thing about Lamar he can stop. The one 1:16:55.320 --> 1:16:57.280 thing about Jaye danis he has a little bit on 1:16:57.400 --> 1:16:59.240 G three and them where it takes them four or 1:16:59.280 --> 1:17:02.080 five steps to stop. So if you look at any 1:17:02.080 --> 1:17:04.439 of those bast tackles he gets, it is because he 1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:07.720 can't stop. I've watched him on the sideline running to 1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:11.599 people back because he couldn't stop, because he's running so fast. 1:17:12.000 --> 1:17:12.720 That scares me. 1:17:12.960 --> 1:17:15.839 Yeah, so this is nippicking what I'm doing. I'm nitpicking 1:17:16.080 --> 1:17:18.880 because his ceiling is way up there and at number 1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:21.559 two overall, if Washington decides to take them, I'm thrilled 1:17:22.000 --> 1:17:25.160 because the Grand Slam is that I can see it. 1:17:25.520 --> 1:17:27.760 I can see it happening. But I can also see 1:17:27.800 --> 1:17:30.639 these other things that make me go that the players 1:17:30.680 --> 1:17:33.200 ahead of them, I don't feel have as low as Florence. 1:17:33.439 --> 1:17:37.000 That's all Jackson. This is come. I say, it's more 1:17:37.120 --> 1:17:39.559 Lamar Griffin than it is Lamar Jackson. 1:17:40.320 --> 1:17:41.720 I think he throws the better than I think he 1:17:41.760 --> 1:17:44.439 throws better than RG three. But yeah, the the other 1:17:44.479 --> 1:17:45.880 thing I'd say there the thing that gets me with 1:17:45.960 --> 1:17:48.280 him is the throws over the millfield and just they're 1:17:48.360 --> 1:17:51.160 not there like that really makes me super super. 1:17:51.000 --> 1:17:53.920 Nervous splitting the NFL. Hell yeah, all right, so let's go. 1:17:54.080 --> 1:17:56.200 What do we got? We're going ten two, yeah. 1:17:56.160 --> 1:17:57.200 One, ten to six. 1:17:57.520 --> 1:17:59.280 We're gonna save the top five to six. 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:01.360 I thought I jumped the gun just. 1:18:01.400 --> 1:18:04.200 Producing it here is try and keep their listeners engaged a. 1:18:04.160 --> 1:18:04.760 Little very now. 1:18:05.720 --> 1:18:07.599 So ten to six, Yeah, who's going? 1:18:08.880 --> 1:18:09.240 I can go? 1:18:10.040 --> 1:18:10.320 All right? 1:18:10.360 --> 1:18:15.560 Talisa Futaga from Oregon State. Sorry, Drake May, this is 1:18:15.560 --> 1:18:18.559 where he falls at number nine, ol Fashanu, I'm very 1:18:18.640 --> 1:18:21.960 high on him from Penn State. Brock Bowers tight end 1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:25.200 from Georgia. This is where I had let Latu from 1:18:25.280 --> 1:18:27.800 U C l A. And then oh that's it. I'm 1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:29.040 stopping there, yep, stopping. 1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:30.479 That's my next you go, all right? 1:18:30.560 --> 1:18:35.080 So ten Talisa Fluaga got nine old Shanu eight, Drake 1:18:35.200 --> 1:18:39.240 May seven, Brock Bowers six, jayde Daniels. 1:18:40.479 --> 1:18:45.840 That's not too bad, right, alright, A T and I 1:18:45.960 --> 1:18:50.519 got a joy for I guess this is for fun. 1:18:52.280 --> 1:18:55.759 At nine, I got Dallas Turner. I got Dallas Turner 1:18:55.840 --> 1:18:59.160 at nine. At eight, I got Brock Bowers one of 1:18:59.160 --> 1:19:00.720 the most elite with Busins draft. 1:19:00.800 --> 1:19:04.360 It's seven, I have mister Jaydon Daniels. It's six. I 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:05.559 have elit neighbors. 1:19:06.360 --> 1:19:09.560 And I got Drake Mayott ten. I got Jayden and 1:19:09.600 --> 1:19:15.519 Daniels at nine, Troy Fatanu at eight. I got Quinjon 1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:16.759 Mitchell at seven. 1:19:16.920 --> 1:19:17.439 That's high. 1:19:17.720 --> 1:19:19.800 And I got Joe Alt at six. 1:19:20.000 --> 1:19:21.880 So why are you so in love with Quinna and Mitchell. 1:19:22.360 --> 1:19:24.639 So we went back and forth like him and Taron Ronold, 1:19:24.720 --> 1:19:26.840 and I kind of was like, oh, I think Tarron 1:19:26.920 --> 1:19:29.760 Ronold is like an excellent football player. He tackles well, 1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:32.639 he's got good field, he's got controllery, quickness. I don't 1:19:32.640 --> 1:19:34.599 know if he's got the horsepower to play outside corner, 1:19:34.800 --> 1:19:37.080 Like that's my question. Like when you watch his highlight tape, 1:19:37.560 --> 1:19:41.400 he's not jumping off, he's always he's often in trail 1:19:41.600 --> 1:19:45.479 and saved by bad throws. And so quinnyon like got 1:19:45.520 --> 1:19:47.240 to seem a senior le We got seem at the combine. 1:19:47.439 --> 1:19:50.120 Watched a lot of film in his He is everything 1:19:50.200 --> 1:19:52.679 you want in a number one corner from an athletics standpoint. 1:19:52.720 --> 1:19:55.200 He's also got the physical toughness and makeup. So am 1:19:55.240 --> 1:19:57.639 I doing a little bit of a projection here, Yes, 1:19:58.160 --> 1:20:00.880 But just every time we every I've seen him att 1:20:01.120 --> 1:20:04.519 he succeeded expectations. And I think the physicality that he 1:20:04.560 --> 1:20:07.519 plays with and the physical tools that he has are 1:20:07.600 --> 1:20:08.599 just too good to pass up. 1:20:08.520 --> 1:20:09.040 At the position. 1:20:09.280 --> 1:20:10.840 So that's kind of how I feel about him. To me, 1:20:10.880 --> 1:20:13.280 that's why he's number one as opposed to Taron Arnold. 1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:15.759 I got Cooper gen How did Arnold? 1:20:15.920 --> 1:20:17.680 Yeah, so let's talk about Cooper de Gene because that's 1:20:17.680 --> 1:20:20.240 a guy that I have it. I have it thirty one. Yeah, 1:20:20.320 --> 1:20:21.599 I don't know where you have him, Jason. 1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:23.240 I got him at sixteen. 1:20:24.680 --> 1:20:26.479 Got a control you were in that you were in 1:20:26.560 --> 1:20:26.960 that area. 1:20:27.160 --> 1:20:31.479 Yeah, I got him at sixteen. And listen in because 1:20:31.880 --> 1:20:32.320 the color. 1:20:32.880 --> 1:20:36.760 He has a lot of adjacency horn in him, but 1:20:36.920 --> 1:20:40.639 he also has a lot of just electric Like first 1:20:40.680 --> 1:20:43.360 of all, he ran the one hundred. People do't understand 1:20:43.360 --> 1:20:43.600 he's a. 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:46.000 Trecks just a good athlete play basketball. 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:47.000 Like three star guy. 1:20:47.520 --> 1:20:50.240 He I could always tell when the athlete got his 1:20:50.720 --> 1:20:53.519 his hand on the post of sports. This dude is 1:20:53.560 --> 1:20:56.160 a football player. This dude, I can see this dude 1:20:56.200 --> 1:20:59.760 playing fourteen years in the League, Pro Bowl, might be 1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:01.400 a Hall of Fame, and he get to the White team, 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:03.880 where I put him safety or corner, I put him 1:21:03.880 --> 1:21:06.000 in both. I play him everywhere I play him. I 1:21:06.160 --> 1:21:08.519 play him the same way you play the honey Badger. 1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:10.639 Okay, I will play him. 1:21:10.760 --> 1:21:13.280 The same way as Tying Matthews. Sometime he'll be in 1:21:13.320 --> 1:21:15.400 a nickel, Sometime he'll be in the middle of field. 1:21:15.560 --> 1:21:17.920 Sometime he'll be outside checking the tight end with im. 1:21:18.000 --> 1:21:20.040 I need him to be He's my joker. 1:21:21.640 --> 1:21:22.120 Interesting. 1:21:22.640 --> 1:21:24.760 That's how I view him too. I just don't. I 1:21:24.960 --> 1:21:28.280 just don't view his value as like I think it's 1:21:28.360 --> 1:21:30.040 high as high because I think he's. 1:21:29.920 --> 1:21:31.679 A good I agree. I think he's good football player. 1:21:31.680 --> 1:21:33.400 Think he tackles well. I think he's got good instincts. 1:21:33.760 --> 1:21:36.280 There's a little bit lacking in his like clicking clicking 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.559 clothes ability. You know, he gets a little bit gummed 1:21:38.640 --> 1:21:40.280 up with his hip. So so I think moving inside 1:21:40.280 --> 1:21:41.920 it's gonna be a better move for him. And I 1:21:41.960 --> 1:21:43.680 think at I think at thirty one, I think he's 1:21:43.680 --> 1:21:45.120 a heck of a football player. You know, I think 1:21:45.120 --> 1:21:47.720 he's going to make a team significantly better. Kind of 1:21:47.760 --> 1:21:50.559 reminds me a little bit of like Kyle Hamilton ish 1:21:51.000 --> 1:21:53.200 but not quite the same frame, you know, just in 1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:54.840 terms of what he brings. And I think the Honey 1:21:54.880 --> 1:21:57.160 Badger is a good comp but yeah, like just because 1:21:57.160 --> 1:21:59.800 he's switching positions kind of moving inside, he didn't do that. 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:00.680 He did that at. 1:22:00.640 --> 1:22:04.120 Iowa played linebacker. Yeah, yeah, And I just worry about it. 1:22:04.360 --> 1:22:05.880 Just the thing that gets me, like if he came 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:07.400 out this is so dumb, but if he came out 1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:10.640 and ran and jumped, well, I would have him in 1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:12.599 the top twenty, which is no, he'll run and jump 1:22:12.640 --> 1:22:15.320 with but he hasn't done it, and on film, I don't. 1:22:15.640 --> 1:22:17.439 In film, I'm not. I have questions about it. And 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:19.599 if I had the GPS data, i'd probably feel differently. 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:21.920 But I don't know how athletic he is. Like I 1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:24.560 watch him against Ohio State covering Marvin Harrison Junior, and 1:22:24.640 --> 1:22:27.360 Marvin Harrison Junior's a beast, but at times it looked 1:22:27.400 --> 1:22:28.800 like he wasn't on the same field with him. 1:22:28.960 --> 1:22:30.519 Yeah, and that's hard for me. 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:34.519 Player for me, Like, I do definitely see all the 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:36.680 versatility in but like I would like him to start 1:22:36.720 --> 1:22:39.200 out having like a home first, like whether it's like, 1:22:39.240 --> 1:22:40.840 you know he can, he can play safety and plays 1:22:40.840 --> 1:22:42.560 those parts. I liked him to have a majority of 1:22:42.640 --> 1:22:44.800 like one spot, just so he can because you know, 1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:46.920 it's not it's not easy to learn all those different 1:22:46.920 --> 1:22:49.240 positions as in secondary like in the NFL. I mean, 1:22:49.680 --> 1:22:51.559 there are a lot of players out there who've tried 1:22:51.600 --> 1:22:54.080 it and they're sort of okay at in the NFL, 1:22:54.120 --> 1:22:56.640 but they're not always really what you expect them to be. 1:22:56.720 --> 1:22:59.360 I'd rather him start off at a position in one 1:22:59.400 --> 1:23:02.400 position first, and then as he grows, then he can 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:03.040 start to do that. 1:23:03.160 --> 1:23:05.479 I think, I think think of him as a faster 1:23:05.720 --> 1:23:07.040 version of Andreo Row. 1:23:07.840 --> 1:23:09.400 Yeah, but I mean, like that's the thing. Is he 1:23:09.479 --> 1:23:11.720 a faster version of Anshove? I think I know that 1:23:12.360 --> 1:23:15.599 play with this, but for me and I just needed 1:23:15.680 --> 1:23:16.519 I wanted to see him run. 1:23:16.520 --> 1:23:17.160 He hasn't run yet. 1:23:17.160 --> 1:23:19.400 I think he's gonna have a private workout in April sometime. Yeah, 1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:21.880 but until then, he's gonna be kind of in that 1:23:22.479 --> 1:23:25.160 twenty five to thirty five range. For me, again, if 1:23:25.240 --> 1:23:27.680 Washington drafted him, I'm doing backflips. I think he's an 1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:29.679 awesome football player, it's just value. 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:33.240 Top five Logan top five Talisi Fuaga, number five Tag 1:23:33.320 --> 1:23:35.519 from Morgan State, and that kind of ends my like 1:23:35.680 --> 1:23:38.960 second tier there and then my top tier, no surprise, 1:23:39.000 --> 1:23:40.479 And these guys could go in any order. This is 1:23:40.520 --> 1:23:41.439 just the order that I did it. 1:23:41.760 --> 1:23:44.920 Number four of Elite Neighbors, three Roma Dunze from U 1:23:45.040 --> 1:23:49.080 dub Marvin Harrison Junior, and then Dunt dunt dug Caleb 1:23:49.120 --> 1:23:51.559 Williams quarterback from USC number one. 1:23:51.960 --> 1:23:58.639 So five Romadunz, four, Joe Alt three Milite Neighbors, two 1:23:59.000 --> 1:24:03.120 Marvin Harrison Junior, and surprisingly to literally everybody in the world, 1:24:03.200 --> 1:24:03.839 Kady Williams. 1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:06.880 Yeah, Rama Dunesay is five for me and Elik Neighbors 1:24:07.000 --> 1:24:09.080 is four and they are very close to me, like 1:24:09.240 --> 1:24:11.960 Razor thin. I could switch them back and forth. Three 1:24:12.120 --> 1:24:16.280 is Joe aught, two is Harrison Junior, and one Caleb Williams. 1:24:16.920 --> 1:24:20.840 We are not so different you and I guys at five, 1:24:20.960 --> 1:24:26.679 I got mister Drake May at four, Joe I at three, 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:30.880 Rome Doomsday, I love you, dude, Marvin Harrison Junior at two, 1:24:31.200 --> 1:24:34.479 Kayler Williams at one on your list, where. 1:24:35.880 --> 1:24:40.479 On my list he was in the last section, Yeah, yeah, 1:24:40.520 --> 1:24:41.439 he was number six for me. 1:24:41.600 --> 1:24:44.879 So why did you have him below May, and because 1:24:45.040 --> 1:24:47.519 I think Drake May is going to be way better 1:24:47.600 --> 1:24:50.120 than people think he is. When I see Drake May, 1:24:50.640 --> 1:24:56.880 I see Josh Allen, I see a hybrid of UH 1:24:57.439 --> 1:25:01.320 Detroit's quarterback Herbert, I see something and I don't think people. 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:03.879 I think people judge him so hard because North Carolina 1:25:04.040 --> 1:25:07.160 just wouldn't. I'll let it as a school. I just 1:25:07.280 --> 1:25:09.559 take you in, showed me the player, let me watch 1:25:09.640 --> 1:25:11.960 some film on him. I tell you, does it translates 1:25:11.960 --> 1:25:13.840 to the next level. I think he translates. And I 1:25:13.920 --> 1:25:16.639 think because everybody putting him behind the eight ball, they're 1:25:16.680 --> 1:25:18.400 gonna have a lot to do with how he comes 1:25:18.479 --> 1:25:19.240 out blazing. 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:21.439 Yeah. I think only My only concern with him is 1:25:21.520 --> 1:25:23.439 just like these there's inconsistent moments. 1:25:23.560 --> 1:25:25.840 Oh, his bad moments are bay yeah, and that's fine. 1:25:25.720 --> 1:25:28.400 Yeah, and every player has them, but he's just has 1:25:28.479 --> 1:25:30.840 come at weird times like when they probably shouldn't. And 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:33.519 then again, the highs are really high, and it's part 1:25:33.520 --> 1:25:34.759 of the reason why I think he has the highest 1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:37.080 ceiling outside of Keller Williams, of any quarterback in the 1:25:37.120 --> 1:25:39.800 class because he throws the ball so aggressively. But those 1:25:39.840 --> 1:25:42.040 inconsistent moments scare me a little bit. I also wanted 1:25:42.040 --> 1:25:44.960 to ask you, two guys, Joe Alt's best sackle on 1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:47.240 the board, why I have Teleisi Fogg. 1:25:47.280 --> 1:25:50.400 Obviously, for me, it kind of goes back to what 1:25:50.479 --> 1:25:52.240 we were saying about some of marius Men stuff like 1:25:52.360 --> 1:25:54.240 somebody just looks kind of like he's asleep and that 1:25:54.400 --> 1:25:56.559 is easy for him. I feel like that's a lot 1:25:56.640 --> 1:25:58.680 of the same stuff with Joe Aalt. Like he's just 1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:02.639 technically sound, He's very physical. I think his punch is great. 1:26:02.760 --> 1:26:04.400 I think he waits for his defense wind to come 1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:04.880 and get him. 1:26:04.760 --> 1:26:05.400 In pass pressure. 1:26:05.400 --> 1:26:08.200 I think he's he's very methodical in what he does. 1:26:08.280 --> 1:26:10.639 I think it's it's some of the most beautiful things. 1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:14.120 So he's an vintite Notre Dame tech. 1:26:14.320 --> 1:26:16.160 Yeah, when you when you draw up a no no 1:26:16.280 --> 1:26:18.240 to Dame tack and just put at on the back 1:26:18.280 --> 1:26:20.960 of his jersey. Because I have seen him before. I've 1:26:21.000 --> 1:26:23.439 seen him ten years ago, I seen him twenty years ago. 1:26:23.920 --> 1:26:27.800 It feels like Wisconsin Guard, like sometime you know what 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:29.280 you're getting. I don't have to put a name on 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:33.480 the back of the jersey. He feels Notre Dame tackle fifteen. 1:26:33.240 --> 1:26:36.400 Wildly nasty. I think it's a good what they say. 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:40.680 Is religiously nasty, you know, because he's a good religious guy, 1:26:40.800 --> 1:26:42.200 so he religiously nasty. 1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:47.000 And then Jason, he feels he feels like the safest 1:26:47.080 --> 1:26:49.960 bet at that position, like the Flora is the highest 1:26:50.200 --> 1:26:52.320 and he has a high ceiling as well. But like, 1:26:52.600 --> 1:26:55.880 even if he doesn't turn into the great prospect that 1:26:55.920 --> 1:26:58.840 you would want, drafted him to pace maker the Flora 1:26:59.000 --> 1:27:01.360 solo like Fred saying, we've seen this guy and we've 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:04.400 seen it work. Yeah, he's so big, he's still young, 1:27:04.760 --> 1:27:08.519 he's very strong, and he just bullies people and he's nasty. 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:10.720 There is a nasty side to him that I think 1:27:10.760 --> 1:27:13.200 people tend to not talk about as much. But he's 1:27:13.280 --> 1:27:16.000 got to me, he's got all those things. Yes, there 1:27:16.040 --> 1:27:18.200 are things that he can work on. All of these guys, 1:27:18.400 --> 1:27:21.160 all of them do. But the floor is way up there. 1:27:21.360 --> 1:27:24.360 So when you get him, I feel like he's starting 1:27:24.439 --> 1:27:25.600 for you and you feel good about it. 1:27:25.720 --> 1:27:28.880 What everybody loves Marvin Harrison Junia and it's rightfully, So 1:27:29.720 --> 1:27:32.479 what is the gap between him and Rome and dudes 1:27:32.520 --> 1:27:35.960 David Yap Because to me, it ain't it ain't really 1:27:36.080 --> 1:27:36.800 no gap to me. 1:27:38.400 --> 1:27:41.360 I'll start this off. I think Malik Neighbors and Rama 1:27:41.400 --> 1:27:44.200 Dunzay are very close, and they're actually pretty close to 1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:47.280 Marvin Harrison the more I think about it, because, like 1:27:47.479 --> 1:27:49.960 Joe aut the reason that Harrison I have so high 1:27:50.080 --> 1:27:52.040 as a receivers because I think it's floor is really 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:56.560 really high. Yeah, I could see Rama Dunes being a 1:27:56.720 --> 1:27:57.400 better player. 1:27:57.479 --> 1:27:59.680 I definitely think Molik Neighbors of those three has the 1:27:59.720 --> 1:28:01.040 highest ceiling of the other group. 1:28:01.240 --> 1:28:04.439 Absolutely could yeah, absolutely, But the floor. 1:28:05.000 --> 1:28:05.719 Who would you'all. 1:28:05.560 --> 1:28:08.040 Comparison to elite Naghbors there? If you had to compare 1:28:08.120 --> 1:28:10.760 him to any former player player of Prayer playing. 1:28:10.560 --> 1:28:11.479 Now, who would it be? 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:15.720 Because when I see Rome Doomday, I literally as much 1:28:15.760 --> 1:28:18.880 as I keep watching him, I see Jamar Chase and 1:28:19.000 --> 1:28:20.840 I feel like Jamar Chase is. 1:28:20.920 --> 1:28:23.320 One of the best wide receivers in the league. 1:28:23.439 --> 1:28:25.960 They body bill is the same, they run the same, 1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:30.000 almost the same speed, strong hands like when I watched 1:28:30.240 --> 1:28:31.800 when I watched Jamar Chay for the first time, the 1:28:31.800 --> 1:28:33.880 first thing I noticed was him just ripping the ball 1:28:33.960 --> 1:28:36.439 out there and nobody ever knocking the ball out of 1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:38.479 his hand. When I watched Doom Date. I see the 1:28:38.640 --> 1:28:43.240 same exac thing. So I say, Jamar Chase, when y'all 1:28:43.240 --> 1:28:44.840 see elite nables, what do y'all think? 1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:47.240 What comes to mind with y'all? Because it's been hard 1:28:47.240 --> 1:28:48.320 for me to place him. 1:28:48.520 --> 1:28:50.960 Like Odell Beckham's type of guy. I think with a 1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:53.280 little bit better yard like yard Jeffley catch, like he's 1:28:53.320 --> 1:28:56.320 got some real juice, and I think like he's got 1:28:56.360 --> 1:28:58.320 a competitive edge to him. I think the thing with 1:28:58.880 --> 1:29:00.640 a dude say that I always come back to is 1:29:00.720 --> 1:29:03.639 I don't he doesn't separate the same way like Jamar 1:29:03.760 --> 1:29:05.920 Chase did coming out of college. He doesn't have the 1:29:05.960 --> 1:29:08.040 same like diversity of rob training. That's not his fault, 1:29:08.040 --> 1:29:10.400 it's more of the offense. But I think he's he's 1:29:10.439 --> 1:29:12.400 got you know, he ran like a four four four seven, 1:29:12.560 --> 1:29:14.600 which isn't like super fast, so he's kind of like 1:29:14.680 --> 1:29:19.519 this ultimate possession receiver and I think, yeah, like that's 1:29:19.680 --> 1:29:20.960 that's a comp I like a little bit better. And 1:29:21.000 --> 1:29:23.280 Jamar Chase ran a four three six or something like that. 1:29:23.439 --> 1:29:25.880 He was scooting, So when I look at him, I 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:28.479 just say, Milik Neighbors has more home run ability. I 1:29:28.520 --> 1:29:31.800 think roma Dunze has a professionalism, has a consistency to 1:29:31.880 --> 1:29:33.200 his game that is going to make him a good 1:29:33.240 --> 1:29:35.639 pro for a long time. And I think Marvin Harrison 1:29:35.720 --> 1:29:37.720 Junior is kind of in that same boat, just with 1:29:37.840 --> 1:29:41.040 a little bit more juice, you know, and a. 1:29:41.160 --> 1:29:42.080 Little bit more often. 1:29:42.880 --> 1:29:44.760 It's kind of what I think. So they are really close. 1:29:44.800 --> 1:29:46.600 But that's why I think like Molik neighbors to me, 1:29:46.720 --> 1:29:49.320 when I watch him, it's the yards after the catch. 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:51.200 It's the way he attacks the football, it's the way 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:53.280 he can kind of there's something there. Now. 1:29:53.320 --> 1:29:55.040 He's not a perfect prospect, which is why I think 1:29:55.080 --> 1:29:57.280 his floor is also very low. But I think those 1:29:57.360 --> 1:29:58.280 three guys are. 1:29:58.640 --> 1:30:00.800 And in them shocked, which you because you'd like to 1:30:00.840 --> 1:30:02.559 cross your teens and that your ass. 1:30:04.160 --> 1:30:06.120 Rome is a better blocker than elite. 1:30:06.400 --> 1:30:06.760 He's great. 1:30:07.120 --> 1:30:09.599 He's very block and that whole all. Every every receiver 1:30:09.680 --> 1:30:11.599 from me, dub is very excellent. But again, like that's 1:30:11.600 --> 1:30:14.720 where it me schematically, like where do you go? Like 1:30:14.840 --> 1:30:17.240 are you going to San Francisco? Like just hypothetically where 1:30:17.280 --> 1:30:20.040 you have to block Miami and we can find you 1:30:20.120 --> 1:30:21.840 a spot, like we can get you open on play 1:30:21.880 --> 1:30:22.479 action stuff. 1:30:22.520 --> 1:30:23.960 You don't have to be the best like. 1:30:24.040 --> 1:30:27.800 Hey, yeah, hey, hey, like go win this one on one, 1:30:28.160 --> 1:30:30.400 Like just be bigger, stronger, faster, like go be Mike 1:30:30.439 --> 1:30:32.479 Evans out there. So I do think there is something 1:30:32.520 --> 1:30:34.680 to that for sure. But yeah, I think like the 1:30:35.240 --> 1:30:37.240 that's why they're in my top group is like if 1:30:37.280 --> 1:30:38.680 any one of them was on my team, I'd be 1:30:38.720 --> 1:30:40.760 super stoked. And I think they're all fairly close and 1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:42.920 like Kayleb Williams is in their more quarterback. I want 1:30:42.960 --> 1:30:44.720 to just touch on the Joe All thing real quick 1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:47.600 before we go. So I one thing about Joel and 1:30:47.680 --> 1:30:49.400 I felt the same way you guys did, and then 1:30:49.400 --> 1:30:50.920 I had a couple of conversations with the combine, went 1:30:50.920 --> 1:30:53.680 back and watched the film. He's not the athlete that 1:30:53.760 --> 1:30:56.200 I thought he was, and he's not and he's again 1:30:56.240 --> 1:30:59.479 he's young. He's a young guy, so he's a little 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:01.639 stiffer than I thought, not the athlete that I thought. 1:31:01.720 --> 1:31:03.640 So there are there is some reservation there. And you 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:06.040 mentioned high floor. I think the kid from Oregon State 1:31:06.080 --> 1:31:08.400 has a higher floor. I do think Joelt has a 1:31:08.479 --> 1:31:10.960 higher ceiling, if that makes sense. Like I think I 1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:12.400 think if you had to say who's going to start 1:31:12.479 --> 1:31:14.280 Day one, right now and be a better like kind 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:16.839 of plug and play guy. No, I think it's fuaga 1:31:17.360 --> 1:31:19.559 can I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. I'll 1:31:19.600 --> 1:31:21.439 tell you why. He's got a little bit more. He's 1:31:21.479 --> 1:31:24.080 got a better physicality to the run game. He understands 1:31:24.439 --> 1:31:26.559 how to get vertical in his set a little bit better. 1:31:26.840 --> 1:31:28.719 Like if you want to go watch Joalt do it tonight. 1:31:29.080 --> 1:31:31.400 He does not set vertically. He sets on a forty 1:31:31.479 --> 1:31:34.120 five with everything, which some teams like, and that's important, 1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:37.960 But can you physically set vertically? Because when you watched 1:31:38.040 --> 1:31:40.439 him at the combine in the vertical set drill, he 1:31:40.640 --> 1:31:42.240 was unable to do it. And now that might have 1:31:42.280 --> 1:31:44.040 been a coaching thing, but I look at that and 1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:48.000 I say, if when you set like that against a big, 1:31:48.200 --> 1:31:52.519 powerful rusher with some juice off the edge, you anna 1:31:52.720 --> 1:31:55.160 you are gonna collapse it outside shoulder or if they're 1:31:55.200 --> 1:31:57.400 running a game, you're in trouble. So that's where I 1:31:57.520 --> 1:31:59.880 was like, big as he is, this is a good question, 1:32:00.240 --> 1:32:02.680 and I so to me, to me, the issue with 1:32:02.800 --> 1:32:07.519 this this argument is Amarius Mims has to set vertically 1:32:07.560 --> 1:32:09.479 to if you're getting a stunt, right, So, if you 1:32:09.520 --> 1:32:11.479 have a three technique and a nine. I have to 1:32:11.520 --> 1:32:14.479 set vertically to post the three for the for the TT, 1:32:14.680 --> 1:32:17.000 for the for the ET excuse me right, and tackle stunt. 1:32:17.680 --> 1:32:19.759 If you can't do that, that's gonna be really challenging. 1:32:19.800 --> 1:32:21.680 I think he's an excellent football player, but he's not 1:32:21.840 --> 1:32:24.400 quite as physically developed as I thought he was. Now 1:32:24.479 --> 1:32:27.640 he's younger than everybody. He's like twenty, He's like Fashanu, right, 1:32:28.040 --> 1:32:30.920 So he's going to grow up and be something pretty special. 1:32:31.400 --> 1:32:33.479 But how long is that going to take? Is that 1:32:33.560 --> 1:32:35.479 going to take two years? Is that gonna take a year? 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:37.600 Is that can take three years? So that's where I 1:32:37.720 --> 1:32:40.639 come out. I'm like, yes, he's a good player, Yes 1:32:40.720 --> 1:32:43.400 he's a good prospect, but in terms of floor day one, 1:32:43.880 --> 1:32:46.160 I just think there's a physicality to Filuaga. 1:32:45.800 --> 1:32:46.320 That is nice. 1:32:46.600 --> 1:32:48.680 Sorry, Zach, and I would I would say that, like, 1:32:48.920 --> 1:32:51.400 I don't have the nuances of the position that you 1:32:51.479 --> 1:32:53.160 guys do to be able to break it down like this, 1:32:53.640 --> 1:32:57.320 but I would say that as athletic as he is, 1:32:57.840 --> 1:33:00.080 as young as he is, and then any use to 1:33:00.120 --> 1:33:02.560 play tight end point and then they moved him, Like 1:33:03.040 --> 1:33:06.240 I feel confident he's coachable and I feel confident he 1:33:06.280 --> 1:33:09.840 could learn this and it is if it is a flaw, right, 1:33:09.880 --> 1:33:12.320 which I'm trusting you, right, it's a flaw because I 1:33:12.400 --> 1:33:15.960 can't see that stuff that I'm I'm betting on his 1:33:16.200 --> 1:33:18.840 history that that is something that can be good. 1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:19.080 Right. 1:33:19.120 --> 1:33:21.519 But I guess, like to me, like when I when 1:33:21.560 --> 1:33:24.320 I first watched him, I was like, lay up easy, right, 1:33:24.800 --> 1:33:27.040 And then you see some of these holes. You talk 1:33:27.040 --> 1:33:28.800 to guys of the combine and they bring that up, 1:33:28.920 --> 1:33:31.280 you know, like unsolicited, like I'm not as high on 1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:33.280 them as other people, Like I like this player better. 1:33:33.560 --> 1:33:34.439 And it wasn't Fuaga. 1:33:34.520 --> 1:33:36.200 Some people said to Mariusmims, you know what I mean, 1:33:36.360 --> 1:33:38.640 Like there it's and it's again. I think it goes 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:39.439 back to the point of. 1:33:39.439 --> 1:33:43.799 This exercise that this player specifically is. It's flavor, it's style, 1:33:44.120 --> 1:33:46.920 it's what you value and what you think you can coach. Right, 1:33:47.040 --> 1:33:48.360 Like the guy I was talking, he said, I don't 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:50.559 think I can coach physicality in the run game. 1:33:50.960 --> 1:33:52.600 So who's he going to prioritize more. He's going to 1:33:52.640 --> 1:33:56.439 prioritize because Waga is going to eat you alive. Right, 1:33:56.520 --> 1:33:58.640 that's like his deal. You got penalties this year for 1:33:58.720 --> 1:34:01.120 being too too physical the run game. Some people say, 1:34:01.200 --> 1:34:02.960 I want guys that can vertical set. You're gonna prioritize 1:34:03.040 --> 1:34:04.960 various memps because we don't care about outsides on run. 1:34:05.200 --> 1:34:08.840 It's flavors right, Troy Ftane right, or his ability to 1:34:08.960 --> 1:34:11.160 move and play outsides on think about him with Kyle Shanahan, 1:34:11.520 --> 1:34:13.240 like on what he could do with him on screens 1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:16.360 and like it just it's this is just like the quarterback, 1:34:16.720 --> 1:34:20.360 the offensive line, the receivers. Styles make fights, man, And 1:34:20.479 --> 1:34:23.600 I think however you see these players and however you 1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:25.720 value them within your organization is going to cause you 1:34:25.800 --> 1:34:27.920 a big board to look drastically different. 1:34:28.080 --> 1:34:30.360 So as someone who like I said, I'm a stickler 1:34:30.400 --> 1:34:32.560 for the technique, like I'm not as worried about the 1:34:32.600 --> 1:34:34.160 foty time degree. I don't think as much as you 1:34:34.280 --> 1:34:37.559 because it's I feel like that's just I'm more curious 1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:39.519 if that's just like a habit because of coaching. 1:34:39.960 --> 1:34:42.080 If that's the case, then that should be it should 1:34:42.080 --> 1:34:43.080 be easy to fix. 1:34:43.200 --> 1:34:44.760 But to me, the thing that got me was when 1:34:44.760 --> 1:34:46.320 he went to this, when he went to the combine 1:34:46.360 --> 1:34:47.719 and they do a drill where they have to vertical 1:34:47.760 --> 1:34:48.599 set it's. 1:34:48.439 --> 1:34:52.320 A forty Remember, I think that's is that habit or 1:34:52.400 --> 1:34:54.120 that just because again I think. 1:34:54.040 --> 1:34:56.200 It's more of the more and I'm not disagreeing. But 1:34:56.439 --> 1:34:58.439 when I watch the film with Floago, he can forty five, 1:34:58.520 --> 1:35:01.040 you can vertical, he can jump, and so in terms 1:35:01.080 --> 1:35:03.280 of floor, and that was the comment you guys made, 1:35:04.080 --> 1:35:06.080 I think has got to higher floor now in terms 1:35:06.080 --> 1:35:08.240 of ceiling, I don't think there's any argument. I think 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:10.280 Joel has a higher ceiling, Okay, because I think for Waga, 1:35:10.360 --> 1:35:11.960 like he's got thirty three in Charms, he kind of 1:35:12.040 --> 1:35:13.760 is who he is as a player. Yeah, he can 1:35:13.840 --> 1:35:15.080 come in and start today, but he's going to be 1:35:15.520 --> 1:35:17.960 that guy his whole career, you know what I mean? 1:35:18.160 --> 1:35:20.840 And I think Joe All could progress into something so 1:35:20.880 --> 1:35:22.679 and that's why you're taking him as a top five 1:35:23.040 --> 1:35:23.719 guy in the draft. 1:35:23.800 --> 1:35:24.000 Yeah. 1:35:24.240 --> 1:35:26.880 So, well it's three versus one, so we're right, you're wrong. 1:35:27.120 --> 1:35:29.080 Yeah, that's all right. But I thought it was a 1:35:29.080 --> 1:35:31.160 good conversation. That'll know, it's a great conversation. That will 1:35:31.160 --> 1:35:33.439 probably change. That will probably change before the draft comes. 1:35:33.520 --> 1:35:34.200 Yeah, it happens. 1:35:34.280 --> 1:35:35.920 The more film you watch, the more opportunity you have 1:35:35.960 --> 1:35:36.360 to look. 1:35:36.280 --> 1:35:38.800 It can probably change all all our lists could change tomorrow. 1:35:39.000 --> 1:35:41.439 Just to be clear, it almost changed that this morning, 1:35:41.640 --> 1:35:42.720 just to be clear, almost change that. 1:35:43.040 --> 1:35:45.640 I encourage our fans to make their own big boards here, 1:35:46.040 --> 1:35:49.160 like to go in right down. Yeah, compared to what 1:35:49.320 --> 1:35:51.920 we're doing, what others are doing, and yeah, it's a 1:35:51.960 --> 1:35:54.760 great exercise. Especially when all we do is talk about 1:35:54.760 --> 1:35:57.320 the quarterbacks. It like helps you kind of like slide 1:35:57.479 --> 1:36:00.280 figure out where exactly they line up with the rest 1:36:00.320 --> 1:36:02.360 of the talent in the draft is there are positions 1:36:02.400 --> 1:36:03.200 that can get overlooked. 1:36:03.200 --> 1:36:05.439 But it also make your own big bulls shows you did. 1:36:06.680 --> 1:36:08.280 It's just not a lot of talent that. 1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:10.280 There's well, there's not a lot of surefires. 1:36:12.280 --> 1:36:14.360 When you started to go through it, you're like, Okay, 1:36:14.640 --> 1:36:15.680 how many dudes in this. 1:36:15.960 --> 1:36:16.920 A three day gamble? 1:36:17.600 --> 1:36:19.280 And I think the one thing that I come back 1:36:19.360 --> 1:36:22.720 with is like, there are talented things, but I think 1:36:22.760 --> 1:36:25.160 it's just important to identify the questions. Like Joe Walt 1:36:25.360 --> 1:36:27.519 is a great prospect, but I have questions about him. 1:36:27.880 --> 1:36:29.760 Woga is a great prospect, I have questions about him. 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:32.400 Caleb Williams is a great prospect. Question I think I 1:36:32.520 --> 1:36:34.000 texted him, but I have questions, and if you go 1:36:34.120 --> 1:36:37.439 through everybody, maybe outside of Marvin Harrison Junior, you're gonna 1:36:37.439 --> 1:36:39.680 have pretty glarying questions about their ability to translate to 1:36:39.720 --> 1:36:41.479 the NFL level. And that's why this is such a 1:36:42.200 --> 1:36:43.760 That's why hit rate in the Draft is such a 1:36:43.800 --> 1:36:46.160 crafts show because it's not only how do I develop 1:36:46.200 --> 1:36:48.800 a quarterback? But how do I develop an Amarius Mims? 1:36:49.160 --> 1:36:50.960 You know, how do I make sure he's maximized to 1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:53.000 my system? And where's the location for that? And I 1:36:53.080 --> 1:36:55.360 keep going back to that, so fans, it's not about 1:36:55.400 --> 1:36:58.519 the guy, it's about how the guy fits the offensive 1:36:58.600 --> 1:37:00.920 defensive coordinator vision for the team. 1:37:00.960 --> 1:37:01.120 Yah. 1:37:01.160 --> 1:37:04.240 It's like dating. Yeah, yeah, you find someone in there 1:37:04.400 --> 1:37:06.280 the questions are you okay with That's that? My wife 1:37:06.360 --> 1:37:06.840 she's perfect. 1:37:06.880 --> 1:37:07.240 Yeah, yeah. 1:37:07.280 --> 1:37:08.320 You can't get everybody. 1:37:08.600 --> 1:37:09.599 You can't date everybody. 1:37:09.720 --> 1:37:11.920 It is what it is, absolutely so I think that's 1:37:11.920 --> 1:37:13.600 going to do it for today. Thank you guys so 1:37:13.720 --> 1:37:15.920 much for joining the Ticket of the Draft podcast and 1:37:16.000 --> 1:37:17.760 make sure you tune in. Are we doing one next week? 1:37:17.920 --> 1:37:19.400 Is that we're doing We'll try We'll try to do 1:37:19.439 --> 1:37:20.960 one next week. Makes you tune in, Thanks guys. 1:37:21.320 --> 1:37:21.600 That's it. 1:37:22.080 --> 1:37:22.360 That's it