WEBVTT - Growing Up a Gamer with Ronnie 2K

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Sloan. I'm fifteen years old, and I love

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. Today, we have a very cool guest Storms.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the man behind all the awesome NBA two K

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<v Speaker 1>video games that everyone loves to play. He's always hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with all the coolest influencers and playing in the

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<v Speaker 1>gaming world. And today he's hanging out with me. How

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<v Speaker 1>cool is that we're talking to the one and only

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie too, kat So, Ronnie, I'm fifteen years old and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in ninth grade. Okay, but sometimes when you're in

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<v Speaker 1>ninth grade or when you're fifteen, you can be in

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<v Speaker 1>tenth grade, so both ways. But I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>like think about Ronnie when he was fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in eleventh grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, wow, look to you a little prodigy. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I skipped a grade when I was in first grade.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, me me at fifteen, okay, so this is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be very hard to believe. I'd say at thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>I was the shortest kid in my class. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, wow, I was four foot like eight and

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<v Speaker 2>then I had a tennis grosper in ninth grade ten inches, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then another like eight inches in eleventh grade. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I had another one in college. Did you like me?

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<v Speaker 2>I had to grow to the two feet that I

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<v Speaker 2>to make six six? Now yeah, you're six six, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like six five six six.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling schedule about this. I think you were two.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if this is real, fact checkers. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I may have to Yeah, I'm only five four, which

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<v Speaker 1>is okay. Like I don't think I need It's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like going to pursue a career, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife is four eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>There's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, it's fine. Whatever. We all grow to our

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<v Speaker 1>own that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>She's still wedding for her gro exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So because you were four eight, but then six two

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe apparently six six, did you play basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>What was that like?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I picked up basketball late. I picked it

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<v Speaker 2>up in sixth grade, and I really fell in love

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<v Speaker 2>with the game to the point where I was playing

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<v Speaker 2>like four hours a day, like any game that I

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<v Speaker 2>could find. And then in high school, I was a

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<v Speaker 2>late bloomer. And I think a lot of it had

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<v Speaker 2>to do with every time I shot the basket got

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<v Speaker 2>closer because I was growing yeah, Like so I my

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<v Speaker 2>game kind of evolved a lot, like late high school,

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<v Speaker 2>in early college and then early college like my second

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<v Speaker 2>year I tore my MCL so I never played again

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<v Speaker 2>after that, like on a collegiate level. But up until

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<v Speaker 2>that point, like I had a good, like two three

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<v Speaker 2>year window where I was playing high school and college

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<v Speaker 2>at a high level. But uh yeah, like I I

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<v Speaker 2>sucked in ninth tenth grade even before that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think my thing, which is kind of like funny because

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<v Speaker 2>my career was the same way, like I had to

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<v Speaker 2>like work and work and work and work to be

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<v Speaker 2>a really good player. That worked out, Like yeah, do

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<v Speaker 2>you play au or no? I played cyo in middle

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<v Speaker 2>school again, wasn't as good as the you kids, and

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<v Speaker 2>then and then yeah, then I played in high school

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<v Speaker 2>and then I played at UC San Diego and.

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<v Speaker 1>Grew up a worseman. Or you grew up in Northern Californa.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in northern California. But like I was

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a forty nine Ers fan and a San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>Giants fan. But with the with basketball, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>I never connected with a team. It just never happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And I still actually am not connected to a team

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<v Speaker 2>I always followed, like certain players that I really liked,

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<v Speaker 2>So my early days was Michael Jordan. I know you're fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you know I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Familiar with.

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<v Speaker 2>Shaquille O'Neill also familiar, yes, and then Kevin Durant most recently,

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<v Speaker 2>so like wherever Katie goes. That's that's the team that

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of like root for.

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<v Speaker 1>And were you a gamer? Like, did you like video games?

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<v Speaker 2>I was a big gamer, though I may era when

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<v Speaker 2>I was fifteen, Nintendo sixty four. I still can go

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<v Speaker 2>back and destroy anyone in most of those games, Mario

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<v Speaker 2>Kars Smash Bros. Like I literally I put this out

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<v Speaker 2>there because I feel like if I could have played

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<v Speaker 2>those games competitively, I was really that good. But I

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<v Speaker 2>was a huge fan of Zelda. So I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 2>next month's Tiers of the Kingdom release. Uh And so,

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<v Speaker 2>like I maintained being a gamer, but for a long

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<v Speaker 2>time it was Nintendo products and then early Xbox like

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<v Speaker 2>Halo and you know those games, And that's when I

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<v Speaker 2>got to play a lot. Just like high school college,

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<v Speaker 2>you play, you know, you get a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you gone to Mario Kart World at Universal.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Seriously, I'm can you take I really want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to go to ask the wife. It's

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<v Speaker 2>our six month wife.

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<v Speaker 1>That's her name.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name is cecc Bring me.

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to go. It can be a trial.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be your little kid. Great. Great, you can put

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<v Speaker 1>me in the stroller. Will be fun. I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to try. Like they have these like bread bull thingies

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<v Speaker 1>and you can like I don't know how it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>literally the only thing I know, Like, I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what they like.

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<v Speaker 2>The japan experience where you could drive around the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt that it's like Universal Studios, that's a small area.

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<v Speaker 2>I should they do it eventually. I'm I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 2>do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely the k world like an amusement park. Yeah, sick,

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<v Speaker 1>I can help you start that.

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<v Speaker 2>If you like, I'm excited. Were brainstorming?

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<v Speaker 1>Great, I'm glad if fifteen year old you start yourself. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what would the reaction be because you've had a career

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<v Speaker 1>path that is filled with many surprises? So how is

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<v Speaker 1>that we.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely shocked the fact that like to do this thing

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<v Speaker 2>in sports and gaming two things that I really loved.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was fifteen is pretty exciting. Maybe I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been like, oh yeah, of course, because like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>at fifteen, it's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do. But no, that wasn't the goal.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like I had a lot of pressure, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as an Indian first generation kid. You know, my my

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<v Speaker 2>parents put a lot of pressure on me to go

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<v Speaker 2>to post graduate school. I was the first one in

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<v Speaker 2>my family to go to college. And uh so, like

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<v Speaker 2>it was computer science or I was being a doctor

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<v Speaker 2>or was being something like that. I settled on law

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<v Speaker 2>after a little while, and thank god I didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>that because that would have been terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>What type of law?

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<v Speaker 2>I really wanted to be a sports agent, so staying

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<v Speaker 2>in the sports thing. But like I was inspired by

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry McGuire.

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<v Speaker 1>What that is I do? Ronny, I'm just going to podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, yes, But so you've been working with

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<v Speaker 1>two K since twenty ten, right or like since two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight? Okay, I was sorry, I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>was there so at that time, so I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry that was wasn't that the year you were born?

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<v Speaker 1>I was on in two thousand and seven. But September,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I was like, scarely. Yeah, it's sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>tell players, I'm like, yeah, the year you were drafted,

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<v Speaker 1>I was not alive.

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<v Speaker 2>So my career can almost drive. That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, speaking of that, I got my permit. I had

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<v Speaker 1>my gradulations driving lesson last week. I didn't hit anything,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was big.

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<v Speaker 2>You have plenty of time to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, oh don't worry, I will. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to come. I feel very bad for Los

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<v Speaker 1>Angeles County when I when I start to.

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<v Speaker 2>Drive Hodger, Everyone's houd your kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. Ye, I'm scared. But which cover since two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight has been your favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean most connected obviously with two K eleven because

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<v Speaker 2>like that was the first time we put Michael Shore

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<v Speaker 2>on the cover, and like obviously he was my idol

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<v Speaker 2>growing up and so that was really exciting. I'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>like the best, like aesthetically, it was either the two

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<v Speaker 2>K twenty cover with Dwayne Wade where you know that

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of these colors, like the Miami Miami colors,

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<v Speaker 2>or the year before with Lebron with the black and

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<v Speaker 2>goal with the words I'd like him very like words

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<v Speaker 2>on covers to tell stories, like I'm really connected with

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<v Speaker 2>those two for those examples, there was Easter eggs and

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<v Speaker 2>both of them, Like, I think we did a really

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<v Speaker 2>good job in those. Recently we've gone back into like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like the iconic hero shots, which are great,

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<v Speaker 2>but like as a marketer, as a storyteller, like I

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<v Speaker 2>was connected with those a little bit more so.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we talked about how you're like pretty smart,

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<v Speaker 1>it's impressive, law school. Cool. Cool. But here's my question

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Okay, so there's thirty teams in the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>and each team plays eighty ten games. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>how many total games there are?

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<v Speaker 2>And you're trying to trick me, of course I am. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is your math. It takes two teams to play, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it takes so that means eighty two divided by two

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<v Speaker 2>is forty one times thirty is twelve thirty? Is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god? Wait you you must have known that.

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<v Speaker 2>I got an eight hundred on my math essay. Two

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<v Speaker 2>do they do sat stad I We're going to keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>See we know no. Like when I wrote that question,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is gonna be so fun. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just something that's crazy. H wow, look at you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can I hire you to be my yes tutor?

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<v Speaker 1>And you were that honored?

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<v Speaker 2>Could I could? I was like, really really good at algebra.

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<v Speaker 2>You already done algebra.

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<v Speaker 1>But honored algebra two. I'm scared, I do, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm questioning it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had younger brothers, so like, I know, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you have calculus after that. Yes, I sucked at calculus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a math person. But now that with my

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<v Speaker 1>new tutor, I'm so.

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<v Speaker 2>Excited for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see how this does problem. But onto the one thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred thirty games. To give ratings out to every

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<v Speaker 1>single NBA player, that's a pretty impressive thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>How many of those games do you think you watch?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, well, we have a team that does the writing

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<v Speaker 2>stuff beyond me. But I'd say i'd say that I

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<v Speaker 2>probably watch right around maybe like one hundred games a year.

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<v Speaker 2>I watch a lot. I used to watch a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more when you know, like there's a lot of distractions

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<v Speaker 2>these days between getting married and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>But coming on amazing podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Great podcasts like this one. Yeah, so like probably one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and i'd probably go to like maybe twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>thirty games a year, all over the in every market

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<v Speaker 2>this year. I've been to Madison Square Garden, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>the Phoenix, I've been the Sacramento. I've obviously been to

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<v Speaker 2>Chase Center. I've been to Staples for both teams. Uh, crypto, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never I'm never going to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels so unnatural.

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<v Speaker 2>Never, I'm never going to call it crypto.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>For a long time, I did the same thing, like

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<v Speaker 2>Candlestick turned did the three Colm Like, what what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what three comm is?

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<v Speaker 1>But Candlestick at the same.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Candlestick was like an iconic name. But it's yeah

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<v Speaker 2>again before.

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<v Speaker 1>Your time, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I meant the Niners won. The Niners won five Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowls when it was called Candlestick time.

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<v Speaker 1>That that doesn't seem like it's going in a good direction. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>for like the new stadium, does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have a team that Yeah, I don't like the.

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<v Speaker 1>New stadium or just what about the team?

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<v Speaker 2>The team's great. The teams should have won the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl two in the last three years and blew it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think they'll win this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's positive. That's not what I've been hearing from others,

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<v Speaker 1>But let's see how that goes. So can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>to the listeners, you know, like the process behind your

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<v Speaker 1>team in choosing the rating for each player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so there's like thirty plus mini attributes, everything from

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<v Speaker 2>like the tangible things like shooting percentage and all of that,

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<v Speaker 2>to like the the kind of like you know, IQ

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<v Speaker 2>things like the mental aspect of the game, health, stamina,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's a variety of things that kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>put together in a formula and spit out a number.

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<v Speaker 2>There's subjectivity. It's all based on like what you do

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<v Speaker 2>on the court will translate to what your rating is

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<v Speaker 2>in the game. Obviously, over the years, that's kind of changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Like i'd say too, there's two huge changes, right. The

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<v Speaker 2>game itself has changed, Like when I watched when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger, when I was fifteen, obviously, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>much more two point game, a lot of stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>the paint, Like a lot of the great players were

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<v Speaker 2>like post players. That's obviously changed, you know with Steph

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<v Speaker 2>Curry and Dame and everybody else. And so that's been

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<v Speaker 2>an evolution. But I'd say the other evolution is the

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<v Speaker 2>way our game has changed. So like my first few

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<v Speaker 2>years a two K, we didn't have any legends in

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and then all of a sudden we added

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<v Speaker 2>every you know, almost every legend in the game from

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<v Speaker 2>the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties and odds, right, and so

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<v Speaker 2>like we had to all of a sudden compare all

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<v Speaker 2>of these players against each other, so that like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stretched out. There aren't any current ninety nines, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the only ninety nine in the game is ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five ninety six Michael Jordan, and so like everybody kind

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<v Speaker 2>of follows and trails behind that. So that's that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like changed things for us. But yeah, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>goes into it, and it's really funny because like these

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<v Speaker 2>players care so much. They get so mad at me,

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<v Speaker 2>they get so mad in general. But the great, the

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<v Speaker 2>great thing about it is it's something that they control, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like you them, go ball out, go do your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's amazing. Obviously, it's a great marketing vehicle

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<v Speaker 2>for us and gets a lot of people talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure, it's exciting. So I like to ask players,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what was your welcome to the league moment?

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<v Speaker 1>But for you sort of what do you think your

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<v Speaker 1>I made it moment was like when did you just

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and you were like, this is just sick.

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<v Speaker 2>I Mean There's been a lot of moments that have

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<v Speaker 2>been like just things that I'd never imagined doing, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>playing celebrity games and doing that. But I'd say the

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<v Speaker 2>one that like stands out to me because it was

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<v Speaker 2>like early in like the thing like I had had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of moments, but like I had maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five thirty thousand Twitter followers at the time, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a Sunday game I think it was NBA

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<v Speaker 2>two K fourteen. Hassan Whiteside had got a triple double.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe he's been playing that long. That's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>now to think about it. Anyway, he uh he got

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<v Speaker 2>a triple double, uh with blocks, no, not not assists, points, rebounds,

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<v Speaker 2>blocks and uh. It was a naturally televised game and

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<v Speaker 2>they asked him like, hey, why'd you play so well,

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<v Speaker 2>and He's like, oh, I got my I was just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get my two K rating up on national TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And like for us, like now, that happens all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>but like at that moment, it was like a really

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<v Speaker 2>kind of wow, like yeah, why this guy played well

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<v Speaker 2>because he was worried about his two K rating. The

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<v Speaker 2>next day he went on Mike and Mike and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, who are famous? People said that reached out

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<v Speaker 2>to you because we saw Rihanna reach out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw YadA, YadA, YadA, the list one left and right.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like and he said me and my Mike

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<v Speaker 2>and same conversation. Yeah, it was like Mike and Mike

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<v Speaker 2>were like, like they went silent because I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>at the time they knew who I was. But obviously

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<v Speaker 2>for him to you know, like react that way, that's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of a one memorable moment. There's been many

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<v Speaker 2>over the course of you know, the past fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was that one was pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 1>That is pretty cool. So, I know you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how you don't necessarily have a team that you specifically

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<v Speaker 1>love and how you're more like a player guy. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I was in your shoes, I think I would

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<v Speaker 1>have a really hard time separating, you know, being a

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<v Speaker 1>fan and loving all these guys from actually trying to

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<v Speaker 1>put out these real legit ratings. How do you separate this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that that's the bias that you can't have, right,

0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Like you can't be a polarizing figure and like lean

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<v Speaker 2>towards one team. You just have to be a professional.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why it's worked, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really have affiliations with teams, and even where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people know who I'm friends within the league,

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<v Speaker 2>and like I wouldn't say they have gotten any preferential treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, it's been harder for them, so to be

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<v Speaker 2>a professional. Of course, we're all fans. Of course we

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<v Speaker 2>love what we do, but we need to maintain some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like professionalism to like, you know, not be

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<v Speaker 2>kind of swept up by the system. As a podcaster,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you deal with the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I'm not afraid to talk about my

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<v Speaker 1>Warriors fandom, but you know, I try to keep it

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<v Speaker 1>a little down low when I'm talking to Cats guys

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think they're gonna win the championship?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I think Andrew coming back is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be really helpful. I think Gary Payton the second

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<v Speaker 1>being back is a huge win. And I just think

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<v Speaker 1>I think they'll get out of the West, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just think that the West.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, really, this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a hot taket.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a hot take. Actually, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are saying they'll say that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that the West is sort of inexperienced,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm I'm sort of a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>Nuggets hater in the way that I respect Jokic, I

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<v Speaker 1>respect Jamal Murray, but I feel sort of that they

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have enough experience. They just haven't been there

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<v Speaker 1>enough time, sort of saying with the Grizzlies, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Kings definitely don't have enough experience, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Suns have barely played together. So I mean then

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like those are the top four and.

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<v Speaker 1>The Clippers on it, Paul George, So yeah, you're stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with my voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that's a good way of thinking of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that Phoenix, like even though they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have as much depth maybe as the Warriors, they are

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<v Speaker 2>better defensive squad and they're definitely a better offensive squad.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, that's that's what you're that's yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, like those four guys, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have the wars winning last year. I think

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<v Speaker 2>their their defense is gonna be an issue this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. It will be interesting to see Andrew's impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the defense, sure, because you know.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen Gip for sure, for sure, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean we've seen games where Andrew's been you look at

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<v Speaker 1>him and you're like, that's the first team all defense

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<v Speaker 1>got He's just insane. And then there's games where he

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<v Speaker 1>barely shows up, you know, So I think that that's

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<v Speaker 1>and Steph's you know, Steph has this that I think

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<v Speaker 1>people don't realize is that he's sneaky good on defense, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and if that shows up, but as an.

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<v Speaker 2>Off ball guy, right, like, you still need your stoppers.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Clay has been amazing this year, but like

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<v Speaker 2>after people don't remember with him, like an ACL is

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<v Speaker 2>tough to come back from and it takes two years

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<v Speaker 2>usually and he's done in like a year year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half, which is so damn impressive. But you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell he's a half step slower on defense first, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay, Like he's I mean, he just hit three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred three, so he just he had more three pointers

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<v Speaker 2>than he's ever had. So what he's done this year

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<v Speaker 2>has been tremendous and hopefully that carries the words over.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think that where they fall short

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<v Speaker 2>might be a little bit on the defensive side.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hopefully we'll see. So it's great that we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about like a semi hot take because this is

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<v Speaker 1>what my favorite segment is. So Kelly Ray Junior, right, yeah, beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful man. So this segment. You know, Steven A. Smith

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<v Speaker 1>has some pretty hot takes, but his takes aren't hotter

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<v Speaker 1>than Kelly you Brad Junior necessarily, but you know who

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<v Speaker 1>takes are harder than Kelly you raguingr yours in mine

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<v Speaker 1>in one second? Okay, so really hot? Like think about

0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.080
<v Speaker 1>those green eyes, Like think about when he just like

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<v Speaker 1>goes up for the poster and he just comes down

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<v Speaker 1>he Like you've thought about this all Oh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>about this every day every night. They have to be

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<v Speaker 1>hot like tattoos, the whole thing, tsunami poppy type takes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna get into it. Okay, ready, ye gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be hot? You promise sure, I don't know, we'll see. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>on a scale of one through ten, how good are

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<v Speaker 1>you at two K nine? Really? Do you think others

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<v Speaker 1>would agree with that or that's that's your.

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<v Speaker 2>Personal I think that like people want to think that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm worse, and I probably I'm not as good as

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<v Speaker 2>I used to be, Like I don't have as much

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<v Speaker 2>time to play. But I just went on this tour

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<v Speaker 2>around the NBA. I played twenty NBA guys around the

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<v Speaker 2>country and really good players. I'm sure we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some of the best ones. And I went

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen and one. Wow, And then we just had this

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<v Speaker 2>thing to sew. I did like a marketing thing where

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<v Speaker 2>we have like fans come from at All Star actually,

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 2>and everybody was expecting to like just run over me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went I went eight. Don'tough, So like I

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<v Speaker 2>still know what I'm doing obviously, Like I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>as much time to play in our game is just

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.800
<v Speaker 2>so amazing because it's it's so large, right, Like there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many ways to play. You know, you can play

0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:23.920
<v Speaker 2>in the park, which is different. You can play my team,

0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.040
<v Speaker 2>which is different. You can play a quick game which

0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.120
<v Speaker 2>is different. So like, to be really good at the game,

0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:30.600
<v Speaker 2>you have to be really good at all of those.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just I don't know that many people that

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<v Speaker 2>are better than.

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<v Speaker 1>Me onto that which NBA player is the best?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I always said Paul George and then I smoked

0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 2>him by twenty points a couple of weeks ago, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not I'm not sure anymore. No, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably probably him. He is. He is really good. I

0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 2>know he plays the city all the time. You Know.

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<v Speaker 2>The funny thing is we can look up all the

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.400
<v Speaker 2>players of you know, like all their hours, right, so,

0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.520
<v Speaker 2>like I get a lot more information. And then than

0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.920
<v Speaker 2>most people. He plays a lot. Uh DeAndre Aden plays

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:08.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot, Jamal Murray plays a lot. Yeah, it's it's

0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like we're talking about some of the best

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:12.920
<v Speaker 2>players on each of these teams. Kevin Durant plays a lot.

0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 2>So but yeah, I would I would hold up, oh

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. You know, Like I actually think it works

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<v Speaker 2>both ways, right, Like they have an advantage because that

0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.920
<v Speaker 2>playbook gets beat into their brains of practice, like over

0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.280
<v Speaker 2>and over every single day, and like our game is

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:31.280
<v Speaker 2>so authentic that that's what they kind of are ingrained

0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:32.880
<v Speaker 2>to see. So I think it helps them. Like they

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.959
<v Speaker 2>see off ball movement, they see like kind of sets

0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:38.200
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, they see they know what plays

0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.920
<v Speaker 2>coming before because our ai is so good that I

0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.560
<v Speaker 2>think it definitely helps them. And then it obviously inspires

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<v Speaker 2>them to you know, take that to the court. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like a symbiotic relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>You should get a ring for that, because like if

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<v Speaker 1>they if they're you know, the final.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a ring. I've actually got a Warrior's ring.

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<v Speaker 1>You how much? How much for it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't pay for it?

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<v Speaker 1>No, can I pay for Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the first one actually, wow, the first championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah cool, Yeah, that's very cool. It was very nice

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<v Speaker 2>of them, miss give me one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what okay, what's like your favorite out of the

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<v Speaker 1>last four years of the Warriors rings? You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>all of them have like new things on them, Like

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<v Speaker 1>some of them have like the different diamonds. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite or the one that you have, you'd have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay, I have to I'm not saying that business is

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<v Speaker 2>the one I had. I think it just meant so

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<v Speaker 2>much to that town, right, like you're never gonna they

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<v Speaker 2>were so bad for so long and they hadn't won

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<v Speaker 2>in forty years, and uh, that first one was special.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on you know, like part of the parade

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<v Speaker 2>like that. That whole ride was so much fun. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>having just worked with Steph on our cover a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years before that, like U or right right around

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<v Speaker 2>that time. Actually we were working with Steph as our cover,

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<v Speaker 2>so like all of that just kind of like working

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<v Speaker 2>together in my city. Like it was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, who is the best shoe game? But also which

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<v Speaker 1>NBA player has the best shoe?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow?

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<v Speaker 1>And and for all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The best shoe game. I mean, Chris Paul's got a

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<v Speaker 2>legacy there and people don't even know, Like he's got

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<v Speaker 2>grails that you would not believe. So he's up there

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of shoe game, best signature shoe. It depends

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<v Speaker 2>on what you mean, like if you're playing If to

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<v Speaker 2>play basketball, I would say toss up between Kobe and PG.

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<v Speaker 2>But the best looking shoe, I mean there's different. So

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<v Speaker 2>whatts I think? The new Lebron twenty is actually pretty sick? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>after a couple of years where I was like, eh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really get the direction that they're going. The

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron twenty is really dope.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you rate your shoe game one through ten?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I used to have seven hundred pairs of shoes

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<v Speaker 2>and I have I have a bunch of grails. I

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<v Speaker 2>also have ones that were like samples like that were

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<v Speaker 2>made for me for some a variety of reasons. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd probably rank up there.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a I just saw this video on TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>where it's this kid and he's in ninth grade, also fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the biggest shoe size like ever, it's bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than Shacks and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And under three.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah an under armour like made him his own shoe.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that that was so.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, super dope, and it was so cool as Shack

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<v Speaker 2>to send him those shoes. Oh yeah, that was he

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<v Speaker 2>speaks to hell awesome. I'm a fifteen Okay, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I feel like that's I wonder what the

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<v Speaker 1>median NBA size shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like maybe fifteen right around there probably probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Something like that. Who do you think is the funniest

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<v Speaker 1>NBA player?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably Carl Anthony Towns. Really, I feel like people don't

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<v Speaker 2>say people don't know him?

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<v Speaker 1>Who aunt Anthony Edwards?

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Edwards, Yeah you don't know this. I don't know. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, look, I've obviously have spent time. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Ansidon opened up to me as much, but like

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<v Speaker 2>kat like you get to know him. He is real hilarious, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>super funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying you learned something new every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm like gonna look at kat in a whole

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<v Speaker 1>different light totally. Is there a certain NBA player that

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<v Speaker 1>you really feel a close bond with? You guys are

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<v Speaker 1>just besties?

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<v Speaker 2>Him? For sure. He was one of my groomsmen for

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<v Speaker 2>my wedding, so that him definitely. There were all three

0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.240
<v Speaker 2>other NBA players that were at my wedding or were

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>invited into my wedding, Katie, Paul George, and Harrison Barnes

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<v Speaker 2>and then kat So those are the four.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, okay, so this is going to get really

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>this could get hotter than Kelly. Just to get hotter

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>than Kelly. What rating in two k would you give

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<v Speaker 1>my podcasting podcasting skills?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I'd say potential rating is like you have ninety

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<v Speaker 2>eight probably potential Okay. I think right now you're like

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<v Speaker 2>a solid eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm fine with that because, like McHale, I'll probably

0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>get traded to the Nets and then I'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Just give me the story. I've got it.

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<v Speaker 1>So now for this last segment, we go Muggsy or

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Manu Uggsy Bogues really short, mane Ball really tall. We're

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:49.800
<v Speaker 1>teammates at one point. So it's just like a this

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:51.920
<v Speaker 1>or that type action, but we got to go fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Being a lawyer or being a video game.

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<v Speaker 2>Icon, I'd just say, like a little bit video game.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a tad bitch, Okay, that's fine playing video games.

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<v Speaker 1>Are going to a game?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow these days, probably video games. It's so hard

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 2>for me to go to basketball games now, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's insane.

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>It's really difficult because your mind's just running.

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 2>No. Well yeah, but also like I love seeing the fans,

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<v Speaker 2>but it gets a little like overwhelming a game sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that dunks are three pointers.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always dunks.

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<v Speaker 1>Winning a Super Bowl or winning a Champions League.

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<v Speaker 2>Final, winning super Bowl for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like the rest of the world would say champions.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in America, Well I.

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<v Speaker 1>Would say Champions League. Okay, so I have a different diversity, Yeah,

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>because I'm different like that. You know, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a ninety eight no Instagram or TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably TikTok love it.

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.639
<v Speaker 1>Everyone says, well, yeah, I guess that's probably a given.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably has I feel like that has written all.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a lot of fun on TikTok because I

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<v Speaker 2>like like have kind of calm back to what was

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<v Speaker 2>so great about my social media at the beginning of

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 2>my career, which was to self deprecate or like deprecate others,

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>like not in a mean way, but like like kind

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>of clap. Tiktoks allows me to do that a little

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:12.640
<v Speaker 2>bit more than.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's run that up on TikTok. Let's definiteat I love

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>it watching a game in real life or at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. I mean, it's still amazing to watch the game

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<v Speaker 2>in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. There's some of those guys where I think

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 1>it's so fun when you see these people and you're like, wow,

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't realize how incredible they are until you see

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<v Speaker 1>them in person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then it's like the sometimes the size and

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<v Speaker 2>the speed of the game, the speed especially, it's just

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 2>like this is another level.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Kawadim is one of those people where, of course

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 1>we know how amazing he is, but there's something that

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<v Speaker 1>when you're sitting in Crypto Beastly Stables, Crypto, when guys

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>just sort of bounce off of him and you don't

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>really see that on the TV and in person, it's

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's crazy to be able to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, Zion or Jaw now or eventually, but you

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<v Speaker 2>probably mean eventually, Yeah, eventually. One's so close.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's easy. I'm the first run.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really close with Zion, so I'll take Zion.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, New York or LA for what?

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<v Speaker 2>Basketball for life?

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<v Speaker 1>Just living out of the town New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Really I'm confused by Okay, it's just there's something about

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<v Speaker 2>New York. I don't know. Every time I go out there,

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Wow, I would never live there, I don't

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 2>think so it's just too much.

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<v Speaker 1>And where would you rather live?

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Where'd you rather where? I'd rather live as LA, but

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 2>where I'd rather go for a week New York. Yeah,

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:35.719
<v Speaker 2>but that's also probably because the grass is screen right,

0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 2>like if you live here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I always I feel rinaldo or messy.

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, you can't go wrong with out of those

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 2>guys who probably just messy because of the the recency.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, okay, final question me or Doris Burke. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we know his.

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Answer me, yes, sure, we'll go great.

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