Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sloan. I'm fifteen years old, and I love
Speaker 1: the NBA. Today, we have a very cool guest Storms.
Speaker 1: He's the man behind all the awesome NBA two K
Speaker 1: video games that everyone loves to play. He's always hanging
Speaker 1: out with all the coolest influencers and playing in the
Speaker 1: gaming world. And today he's hanging out with me. How
Speaker 1: cool is that we're talking to the one and only
Speaker 1: Ronnie too, kat So, Ronnie, I'm fifteen years old and
Speaker 1: I'm in ninth grade. Okay, but sometimes when you're in
Speaker 1: ninth grade or when you're fifteen, you can be in
Speaker 1: tenth grade, so both ways. But I need you to
Speaker 1: like think about Ronnie when he was fifteen.
Speaker 2: I was in eleventh grade.
Speaker 1: Actually, wow, look to you a little prodigy. Okay.
Speaker 2: I skipped a grade when I was in first grade.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, me me at fifteen, okay, so this is
Speaker 2: gonna be very hard to believe. I'd say at thirteen,
Speaker 2: I was the shortest kid in my class. So I
Speaker 2: was like, wow, I was four foot like eight and
Speaker 2: then I had a tennis grosper in ninth grade ten inches, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then another like eight inches in eleventh grade. And
Speaker 2: then I had another one in college. Did you like me?
Speaker 2: I had to grow to the two feet that I
Speaker 2: to make six six? Now yeah, you're six six, yeah,
Speaker 2: like six five six six.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling schedule about this. I think you were two.
Speaker 1: Let's see if this is real, fact checkers. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I may have to Yeah, I'm only five four, which
Speaker 1: is okay. Like I don't think I need It's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm not like going to pursue a career, so I
Speaker 1: think it's fine.
Speaker 2: My wife is four eleven.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: There's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's fine. Whatever. We all grow to our
Speaker 1: own that's right.
Speaker 2: She's still wedding for her gro exactly.
Speaker 1: So because you were four eight, but then six two
Speaker 1: and then maybe apparently six six, did you play basketball?
Speaker 1: What was that like?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I picked up basketball late. I picked it
Speaker 2: up in sixth grade, and I really fell in love
Speaker 2: with the game to the point where I was playing
Speaker 2: like four hours a day, like any game that I
Speaker 2: could find. And then in high school, I was a
Speaker 2: late bloomer. And I think a lot of it had
Speaker 2: to do with every time I shot the basket got
Speaker 2: closer because I was growing yeah, Like so I my
Speaker 2: game kind of evolved a lot, like late high school,
Speaker 2: in early college and then early college like my second
Speaker 2: year I tore my MCL so I never played again
Speaker 2: after that, like on a collegiate level. But up until
Speaker 2: that point, like I had a good, like two three
Speaker 2: year window where I was playing high school and college
Speaker 2: at a high level. But uh yeah, like I I
Speaker 2: sucked in ninth tenth grade even before that. But I
Speaker 2: think my thing, which is kind of like funny because
Speaker 2: my career was the same way, like I had to
Speaker 2: like work and work and work and work to be
Speaker 2: a really good player. That worked out, Like yeah, do
Speaker 2: you play au or no? I played cyo in middle
Speaker 2: school again, wasn't as good as the you kids, and
Speaker 2: then and then yeah, then I played in high school
Speaker 2: and then I played at UC San Diego and.
Speaker 1: Grew up a worseman. Or you grew up in Northern Californa.
Speaker 2: I grew up in northern California. But like I was
Speaker 2: definitely a forty nine Ers fan and a San Francisco
Speaker 2: Giants fan. But with the with basketball, for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: I never connected with a team. It just never happened.
Speaker 2: And I still actually am not connected to a team
Speaker 2: I always followed, like certain players that I really liked,
Speaker 2: So my early days was Michael Jordan. I know you're fifteen.
Speaker 2: I hope you know I'm.
Speaker 1: Familiar with.
Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neill also familiar, yes, and then Kevin Durant most recently,
Speaker 2: so like wherever Katie goes. That's that's the team that
Speaker 2: I kind of like root for.
Speaker 1: And were you a gamer? Like, did you like video games?
Speaker 2: I was a big gamer, though I may era when
Speaker 2: I was fifteen, Nintendo sixty four. I still can go
Speaker 2: back and destroy anyone in most of those games, Mario
Speaker 2: Kars Smash Bros. Like I literally I put this out
Speaker 2: there because I feel like if I could have played
Speaker 2: those games competitively, I was really that good. But I
Speaker 2: was a huge fan of Zelda. So I'm excited for
Speaker 2: next month's Tiers of the Kingdom release. Uh And so,
Speaker 2: like I maintained being a gamer, but for a long
Speaker 2: time it was Nintendo products and then early Xbox like
Speaker 2: Halo and you know those games, And that's when I
Speaker 2: got to play a lot. Just like high school college,
Speaker 2: you play, you know, you get a lot of times.
Speaker 1: Have you gone to Mario Kart World at Universal.
Speaker 2: I'm going on Friday.
Speaker 1: Seriously, I'm can you take I really want to go.
Speaker 2: I really want to go to ask the wife. It's
Speaker 2: our six month wife.
Speaker 1: That's her name.
Speaker 2: Her name is cecc Bring me.
Speaker 1: I really want to go. It can be a trial.
Speaker 1: I'll be your little kid. Great. Great, you can put
Speaker 1: me in the stroller. Will be fun. I really want
Speaker 1: to try. Like they have these like bread bull thingies
Speaker 1: and you can like I don't know how it. It's
Speaker 1: literally the only thing I know, Like, I don't even
Speaker 1: know what they like.
Speaker 2: The japan experience where you could drive around the streets.
Speaker 1: I doubt that it's like Universal Studios, that's a small area.
Speaker 2: I should they do it eventually. I'm I'm excited to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely the k world like an amusement park. Yeah, sick,
Speaker 1: I can help you start that.
Speaker 2: If you like, I'm excited. Were brainstorming?
Speaker 1: Great, I'm glad if fifteen year old you start yourself. Now,
Speaker 1: what would the reaction be because you've had a career
Speaker 1: path that is filled with many surprises? So how is
Speaker 1: that we.
Speaker 2: Definitely shocked the fact that like to do this thing
Speaker 2: in sports and gaming two things that I really loved.
Speaker 2: When I was fifteen is pretty exciting. Maybe I would
Speaker 2: have been like, oh yeah, of course, because like everybody
Speaker 2: at fifteen, it's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do whatever
Speaker 2: I want to do. But no, that wasn't the goal.
Speaker 2: You know, Like I had a lot of pressure, you know,
Speaker 2: as an Indian first generation kid. You know, my my
Speaker 2: parents put a lot of pressure on me to go
Speaker 2: to post graduate school. I was the first one in
Speaker 2: my family to go to college. And uh so, like
Speaker 2: it was computer science or I was being a doctor
Speaker 2: or was being something like that. I settled on law
Speaker 2: after a little while, and thank god I didn't do
Speaker 2: that because that would have been terrible.
Speaker 1: What type of law?
Speaker 2: I really wanted to be a sports agent, so staying
Speaker 2: in the sports thing. But like I was inspired by
Speaker 2: Jerry McGuire.
Speaker 1: What that is I do? Ronny, I'm just going to podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, yes, But so you've been working with
Speaker 1: two K since twenty ten, right or like since two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight? Okay, I was sorry, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: was there so at that time, so I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry that was wasn't that the year you were born?
Speaker 1: I was on in two thousand and seven. But September,
Speaker 1: so like I was like, scarely. Yeah, it's sometimes I
Speaker 1: tell players, I'm like, yeah, the year you were drafted,
Speaker 1: I was not alive.
Speaker 2: So my career can almost drive. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of that, I got my permit. I had
Speaker 1: my gradulations driving lesson last week. I didn't hit anything,
Speaker 1: so that was big.
Speaker 2: You have plenty of time to do that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh don't worry, I will. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to come. I feel very bad for Los
Speaker 1: Angeles County when I when I start to.
Speaker 2: Drive Hodger, Everyone's houd your kids.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Ye, I'm scared. But which cover since two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight has been your favorite?
Speaker 2: I mean most connected obviously with two K eleven because
Speaker 2: like that was the first time we put Michael Shore
Speaker 2: on the cover, and like obviously he was my idol
Speaker 2: growing up and so that was really exciting. I'd say,
Speaker 2: like the best, like aesthetically, it was either the two
Speaker 2: K twenty cover with Dwayne Wade where you know that
Speaker 2: like kind of these colors, like the Miami Miami colors,
Speaker 2: or the year before with Lebron with the black and
Speaker 2: goal with the words I'd like him very like words
Speaker 2: on covers to tell stories, like I'm really connected with
Speaker 2: those two for those examples, there was Easter eggs and
Speaker 2: both of them, Like, I think we did a really
Speaker 2: good job in those. Recently we've gone back into like
Speaker 2: kind of like the iconic hero shots, which are great,
Speaker 2: but like as a marketer, as a storyteller, like I
Speaker 2: was connected with those a little bit more so.
Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about how you're like pretty smart,
Speaker 1: it's impressive, law school. Cool. Cool. But here's my question
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, so there's thirty teams in the NBA
Speaker 1: and each team plays eighty ten games. Do you know
Speaker 1: how many total games there are?
Speaker 2: And you're trying to trick me, of course I am. Well,
Speaker 2: so this is your math. It takes two teams to play, Yes,
Speaker 2: it takes so that means eighty two divided by two
Speaker 2: is forty one times thirty is twelve thirty? Is that right?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Wait you you must have known that.
Speaker 2: I got an eight hundred on my math essay. Two
Speaker 2: do they do sat stad I We're going to keep
Speaker 2: doing this?
Speaker 1: See we know no. Like when I wrote that question,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be so fun. I'm
Speaker 1: just something that's crazy. H wow, look at you. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, can I hire you to be my yes tutor?
Speaker 1: And you were that honored?
Speaker 2: Could I could? I was like, really really good at algebra.
Speaker 2: You already done algebra.
Speaker 1: But honored algebra two. I'm scared, I do, Like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm questioning it.
Speaker 2: So I had younger brothers, so like, I know, and
Speaker 2: then you have calculus after that. Yes, I sucked at calculus.
Speaker 1: I'm not a math person. But now that with my
Speaker 1: new tutor, I'm so.
Speaker 2: Excited for it.
Speaker 1: Let's see how this does problem. But onto the one thousand,
Speaker 1: two hundred thirty games. To give ratings out to every
Speaker 1: single NBA player, that's a pretty impressive thing to do.
Speaker 1: How many of those games do you think you watch?
Speaker 2: Uh, well, we have a team that does the writing
Speaker 2: stuff beyond me. But I'd say i'd say that I
Speaker 2: probably watch right around maybe like one hundred games a year.
Speaker 2: I watch a lot. I used to watch a lot
Speaker 2: more when you know, like there's a lot of distractions
Speaker 2: these days between getting married and everything else.
Speaker 1: But coming on amazing podcast.
Speaker 2: Great podcasts like this one. Yeah, so like probably one
Speaker 2: hundred and i'd probably go to like maybe twenty five
Speaker 2: thirty games a year, all over the in every market
Speaker 2: this year. I've been to Madison Square Garden, I've been
Speaker 2: the Phoenix, I've been the Sacramento. I've obviously been to
Speaker 2: Chase Center. I've been to Staples for both teams. Uh, crypto, Sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm never I'm never going to do it.
Speaker 1: It feels so unnatural.
Speaker 2: Never, I'm never going to call it crypto.
Speaker 1: It doesn't.
Speaker 2: For a long time, I did the same thing, like
Speaker 2: Candlestick turned did the three Colm Like, what what is that?
Speaker 2: I don't know what three comm is?
Speaker 1: But Candlestick at the same.
Speaker 2: No, Candlestick was like an iconic name. But it's yeah
Speaker 2: again before.
Speaker 1: Your time, I know.
Speaker 2: I meant the Niners won. The Niners won five Super
Speaker 2: Bowls when it was called Candlestick time.
Speaker 1: That that doesn't seem like it's going in a good direction. Then,
Speaker 1: for like the new stadium, does it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a team that Yeah, I don't like the.
Speaker 1: New stadium or just what about the team?
Speaker 2: The team's great. The teams should have won the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl two in the last three years and blew it.
Speaker 2: But I think they'll win this year.
Speaker 1: That's positive. That's not what I've been hearing from others,
Speaker 1: But let's see how that goes. So can you explain
Speaker 1: to the listeners, you know, like the process behind your
Speaker 1: team in choosing the rating for each player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's like thirty plus mini attributes, everything from
Speaker 2: like the tangible things like shooting percentage and all of that,
Speaker 2: to like the the kind of like you know, IQ
Speaker 2: things like the mental aspect of the game, health, stamina,
Speaker 2: Like it's a variety of things that kind of like
Speaker 2: put together in a formula and spit out a number.
Speaker 2: There's subjectivity. It's all based on like what you do
Speaker 2: on the court will translate to what your rating is
Speaker 2: in the game. Obviously, over the years, that's kind of changed.
Speaker 2: Like i'd say too, there's two huge changes, right. The
Speaker 2: game itself has changed, Like when I watched when I
Speaker 2: was younger, when I was fifteen, obviously, it was a
Speaker 2: much more two point game, a lot of stuff in
Speaker 2: the paint, Like a lot of the great players were
Speaker 2: like post players. That's obviously changed, you know with Steph
Speaker 2: Curry and Dame and everybody else. And so that's been
Speaker 2: an evolution. But I'd say the other evolution is the
Speaker 2: way our game has changed. So like my first few
Speaker 2: years a two K, we didn't have any legends in
Speaker 2: the game, and then all of a sudden we added
Speaker 2: every you know, almost every legend in the game from
Speaker 2: the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties and odds, right, and so
Speaker 2: like we had to all of a sudden compare all
Speaker 2: of these players against each other, so that like kind
Speaker 2: of stretched out. There aren't any current ninety nines, right,
Speaker 2: Like the only ninety nine in the game is ninety
Speaker 2: five ninety six Michael Jordan, and so like everybody kind
Speaker 2: of follows and trails behind that. So that's that kind
Speaker 2: of like changed things for us. But yeah, a lot
Speaker 2: goes into it, and it's really funny because like these
Speaker 2: players care so much. They get so mad at me,
Speaker 2: they get so mad in general. But the great, the
Speaker 2: great thing about it is it's something that they control, right,
Speaker 2: like you them, go ball out, go do your thing.
Speaker 2: But it's it's amazing. Obviously, it's a great marketing vehicle
Speaker 2: for us and gets a lot of people talking.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, it's exciting. So I like to ask players,
Speaker 1: you know, what was your welcome to the league moment?
Speaker 1: But for you sort of what do you think your
Speaker 1: I made it moment was like when did you just
Speaker 1: sit down and you were like, this is just sick.
Speaker 2: I Mean There's been a lot of moments that have
Speaker 2: been like just things that I'd never imagined doing, obviously
Speaker 2: playing celebrity games and doing that. But I'd say the
Speaker 2: one that like stands out to me because it was
Speaker 2: like early in like the thing like I had had
Speaker 2: a couple of moments, but like I had maybe like
Speaker 2: twenty five thirty thousand Twitter followers at the time, and uh,
Speaker 2: there was a Sunday game I think it was NBA
Speaker 2: two K fourteen. Hassan Whiteside had got a triple double.
Speaker 2: I can't believe he's been playing that long. That's crazy
Speaker 2: now to think about it. Anyway, he uh he got
Speaker 2: a triple double, uh with blocks, no, not not assists, points, rebounds,
Speaker 2: blocks and uh. It was a naturally televised game and
Speaker 2: they asked him like, hey, why'd you play so well,
Speaker 2: and He's like, oh, I got my I was just
Speaker 2: trying to get my two K rating up on national TV.
Speaker 2: And like for us, like now, that happens all the time,
Speaker 2: but like at that moment, it was like a really
Speaker 2: kind of wow, like yeah, why this guy played well
Speaker 2: because he was worried about his two K rating. The
Speaker 2: next day he went on Mike and Mike and uh,
Speaker 2: they're like, who are famous? People said that reached out
Speaker 2: to you because we saw Rihanna reach out to you.
Speaker 2: We saw YadA, YadA, YadA, the list one left and right.
Speaker 2: And he's like and he said me and my Mike
Speaker 2: and same conversation. Yeah, it was like Mike and Mike
Speaker 2: were like, like they went silent because I don't think
Speaker 2: at the time they knew who I was. But obviously
Speaker 2: for him to you know, like react that way, that's
Speaker 2: just kind of a one memorable moment. There's been many
Speaker 2: over the course of you know, the past fifteen years,
Speaker 2: but that was that one was pretty funny.
Speaker 1: That is pretty cool. So, I know you talked about
Speaker 1: how you don't necessarily have a team that you specifically
Speaker 1: love and how you're more like a player guy. But
Speaker 1: if I was in your shoes, I think I would
Speaker 1: have a really hard time separating, you know, being a
Speaker 1: fan and loving all these guys from actually trying to
Speaker 1: put out these real legit ratings. How do you separate this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's the bias that you can't have, right,
Speaker 2: Like you can't be a polarizing figure and like lean
Speaker 2: towards one team. You just have to be a professional.
Speaker 2: And I think that's why it's worked, you know, like
Speaker 2: I don't really have affiliations with teams, and even where
Speaker 2: you know, people know who I'm friends within the league,
Speaker 2: and like I wouldn't say they have gotten any preferential treatment.
Speaker 2: If anything, it's been harder for them, so to be
Speaker 2: a professional. Of course, we're all fans. Of course we
Speaker 2: love what we do, but we need to maintain some
Speaker 2: sort of like professionalism to like, you know, not be
Speaker 2: kind of swept up by the system. As a podcaster,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you deal with the same thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I'm not afraid to talk about my
Speaker 1: Warriors fandom, but you know, I try to keep it
Speaker 1: a little down low when I'm talking to Cats guys
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're gonna win the championship?
Speaker 1: But I think I think Andrew coming back is going
Speaker 1: to be really helpful. I think Gary Payton the second
Speaker 1: being back is a huge win. And I just think
Speaker 1: I think they'll get out of the West, and I
Speaker 1: just think that the West.
Speaker 2: Wow, really, this.
Speaker 1: Is a hot taket.
Speaker 2: It's not a hot take. Actually, a lot of people
Speaker 2: are saying they'll say that way.
Speaker 1: I just think that the West is sort of inexperienced,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm sort of a little bit of a
Speaker 1: Nuggets hater in the way that I respect Jokic, I
Speaker 1: respect Jamal Murray, but I feel sort of that they
Speaker 1: just don't have enough experience. They just haven't been there
Speaker 1: enough time, sort of saying with the Grizzlies, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean the Kings definitely don't have enough experience, and
Speaker 1: the Suns have barely played together. So I mean then
Speaker 1: you look at it.
Speaker 2: And it's like those are the top four and.
Speaker 1: The Clippers on it, Paul George, So yeah, you're stuck
Speaker 1: with my voice.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's a good way of thinking of it.
Speaker 2: I would say that Phoenix, like even though they don't
Speaker 2: have as much depth maybe as the Warriors, they are
Speaker 2: better defensive squad and they're definitely a better offensive squad.
Speaker 2: So like, that's that's what you're that's yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: for sure, like those four guys, you know, I think
Speaker 2: I actually have the wars winning last year. I think
Speaker 2: their their defense is gonna be an issue this year.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. It will be interesting to see Andrew's impact
Speaker 1: on the defense, sure, because you know.
Speaker 2: We've seen Gip for sure, for sure, but I.
Speaker 1: Mean we've seen games where Andrew's been you look at
Speaker 1: him and you're like, that's the first team all defense
Speaker 1: got He's just insane. And then there's games where he
Speaker 1: barely shows up, you know, So I think that that's
Speaker 1: and Steph's you know, Steph has this that I think
Speaker 1: people don't realize is that he's sneaky good on defense, yes,
Speaker 1: and if that shows up, but as an.
Speaker 2: Off ball guy, right, like, you still need your stoppers.
Speaker 2: I mean, Clay has been amazing this year, but like
Speaker 2: after people don't remember with him, like an ACL is
Speaker 2: tough to come back from and it takes two years
Speaker 2: usually and he's done in like a year year and
Speaker 2: a half, which is so damn impressive. But you can
Speaker 2: tell he's a half step slower on defense first, and
Speaker 2: that's okay, Like he's I mean, he just hit three
Speaker 2: hundred three, so he just he had more three pointers
Speaker 2: than he's ever had. So what he's done this year
Speaker 2: has been tremendous and hopefully that carries the words over.
Speaker 2: But you know, I think that where they fall short
Speaker 2: might be a little bit on the defensive side.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we'll see. So it's great that we were
Speaker 1: talking about like a semi hot take because this is
Speaker 1: what my favorite segment is. So Kelly Ray Junior, right, yeah, beautiful,
Speaker 1: beautiful man. So this segment. You know, Steven A. Smith
Speaker 1: has some pretty hot takes, but his takes aren't hotter
Speaker 1: than Kelly you Brad Junior necessarily, but you know who
Speaker 1: takes are harder than Kelly you raguingr yours in mine
Speaker 1: in one second? Okay, so really hot? Like think about
Speaker 1: those green eyes, Like think about when he just like
Speaker 1: goes up for the poster and he just comes down
Speaker 1: he Like you've thought about this all Oh, I think
Speaker 1: about this every day every night. They have to be
Speaker 1: hot like tattoos, the whole thing, tsunami poppy type takes.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into it. Okay, ready, ye gotta
Speaker 1: be hot? You promise sure, I don't know, we'll see. Okay,
Speaker 1: on a scale of one through ten, how good are
Speaker 1: you at two K nine? Really? Do you think others
Speaker 1: would agree with that or that's that's your.
Speaker 2: Personal I think that like people want to think that
Speaker 2: I'm worse, and I probably I'm not as good as
Speaker 2: I used to be, Like I don't have as much
Speaker 2: time to play. But I just went on this tour
Speaker 2: around the NBA. I played twenty NBA guys around the
Speaker 2: country and really good players. I'm sure we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about some of the best ones. And I went
Speaker 2: nineteen and one. Wow, And then we just had this
Speaker 2: thing to sew. I did like a marketing thing where
Speaker 2: we have like fans come from at All Star actually,
Speaker 2: and everybody was expecting to like just run over me,
Speaker 2: and I went I went eight. Don'tough, So like I
Speaker 2: still know what I'm doing obviously, Like I don't have
Speaker 2: as much time to play in our game is just
Speaker 2: so amazing because it's it's so large, right, Like there's
Speaker 2: so many ways to play. You know, you can play
Speaker 2: in the park, which is different. You can play my team,
Speaker 2: which is different. You can play a quick game which
Speaker 2: is different. So like, to be really good at the game,
Speaker 2: you have to be really good at all of those.
Speaker 2: And I just I don't know that many people that
Speaker 2: are better than.
Speaker 1: Me onto that which NBA player is the best?
Speaker 2: Well, I always said Paul George and then I smoked
Speaker 2: him by twenty points a couple of weeks ago, so
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not sure anymore. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: Probably probably him. He is. He is really good. I
Speaker 2: know he plays the city all the time. You Know.
Speaker 2: The funny thing is we can look up all the
Speaker 2: players of you know, like all their hours, right, so,
Speaker 2: like I get a lot more information. And then than
Speaker 2: most people. He plays a lot. Uh DeAndre Aden plays
Speaker 2: a lot, Jamal Murray plays a lot. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: I mean, like we're talking about some of the best
Speaker 2: players on each of these teams. Kevin Durant plays a lot.
Speaker 2: So but yeah, I would I would hold up, oh
Speaker 2: for sure. You know, Like I actually think it works
Speaker 2: both ways, right, Like they have an advantage because that
Speaker 2: playbook gets beat into their brains of practice, like over
Speaker 2: and over every single day, and like our game is
Speaker 2: so authentic that that's what they kind of are ingrained
Speaker 2: to see. So I think it helps them. Like they
Speaker 2: see off ball movement, they see like kind of sets
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, they see they know what plays
Speaker 2: coming before because our ai is so good that I
Speaker 2: think it definitely helps them. And then it obviously inspires
Speaker 2: them to you know, take that to the court. It's
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a symbiotic relationship.
Speaker 1: You should get a ring for that, because like if
Speaker 1: they if they're you know, the final.
Speaker 2: I've got a ring. I've actually got a Warrior's ring.
Speaker 1: You how much? How much for it?
Speaker 2: I don't pay for it?
Speaker 1: No, can I pay for Oh?
Speaker 2: It was the first one actually, wow, the first championship.
Speaker 2: Yeah cool, Yeah, that's very cool. It was very nice
Speaker 2: of them, miss give me one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what okay, what's like your favorite out of the
Speaker 1: last four years of the Warriors rings? You know, like
Speaker 1: all of them have like new things on them, Like
Speaker 1: some of them have like the different diamonds. You have
Speaker 1: a favorite or the one that you have, you'd have to.
Speaker 2: Stay, I have to I'm not saying that business is
Speaker 2: the one I had. I think it just meant so
Speaker 2: much to that town, right, like you're never gonna they
Speaker 2: were so bad for so long and they hadn't won
Speaker 2: in forty years, and uh, that first one was special.
Speaker 2: I was on you know, like part of the parade
Speaker 2: like that. That whole ride was so much fun. You know,
Speaker 2: having just worked with Steph on our cover a couple
Speaker 2: of years before that, like U or right right around
Speaker 2: that time. Actually we were working with Steph as our cover,
Speaker 2: so like all of that just kind of like working
Speaker 2: together in my city. Like it was really cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, who is the best shoe game? But also which
Speaker 1: NBA player has the best shoe?
Speaker 2: Oh wow?
Speaker 1: And and for all of it.
Speaker 2: The best shoe game. I mean, Chris Paul's got a
Speaker 2: legacy there and people don't even know, Like he's got
Speaker 2: grails that you would not believe. So he's up there
Speaker 2: in terms of shoe game, best signature shoe. It depends
Speaker 2: on what you mean, like if you're playing If to
Speaker 2: play basketball, I would say toss up between Kobe and PG.
Speaker 2: But the best looking shoe, I mean there's different. So
Speaker 2: whatts I think? The new Lebron twenty is actually pretty sick? Yeah,
Speaker 2: after a couple of years where I was like, eh,
Speaker 2: I don't really get the direction that they're going. The
Speaker 2: Lebron twenty is really dope.
Speaker 1: What would you rate your shoe game one through ten?
Speaker 2: Well, I used to have seven hundred pairs of shoes
Speaker 2: and I have I have a bunch of grails. I
Speaker 2: also have ones that were like samples like that were
Speaker 2: made for me for some a variety of reasons. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd probably rank up there.
Speaker 1: There was a I just saw this video on TikTok
Speaker 1: where it's this kid and he's in ninth grade, also fifteen,
Speaker 1: and he's the biggest shoe size like ever, it's bigger
Speaker 1: than Shacks and everything.
Speaker 2: And under three.
Speaker 1: Yeah an under armour like made him his own shoe.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was so.
Speaker 2: Cool, super dope, and it was so cool as Shack
Speaker 2: to send him those shoes. Oh yeah, that was he
Speaker 2: speaks to hell awesome. I'm a fifteen Okay, that's.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I feel like that's I wonder what the
Speaker 1: median NBA size shoes.
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe fifteen right around there probably probably.
Speaker 1: Something like that. Who do you think is the funniest
Speaker 1: NBA player?
Speaker 2: Probably Carl Anthony Towns. Really, I feel like people don't
Speaker 2: say people don't know him?
Speaker 1: Who aunt Anthony Edwards?
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, Yeah you don't know this. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 2: I mean, like, look, I've obviously have spent time. Maybe
Speaker 2: Anthony Ansidon opened up to me as much, but like
Speaker 2: kat like you get to know him. He is real hilarious, Yeah,
Speaker 2: super funny.
Speaker 1: Saying you learned something new every day.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm like gonna look at kat in a whole
Speaker 1: different light totally. Is there a certain NBA player that
Speaker 1: you really feel a close bond with? You guys are
Speaker 1: just besties?
Speaker 2: Him? For sure. He was one of my groomsmen for
Speaker 2: my wedding, so that him definitely. There were all three
Speaker 2: other NBA players that were at my wedding or were
Speaker 2: invited into my wedding, Katie, Paul George, and Harrison Barnes
Speaker 2: and then kat So those are the four.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, so this is going to get really
Speaker 1: this could get hotter than Kelly. Just to get hotter
Speaker 1: than Kelly. What rating in two k would you give
Speaker 1: my podcasting podcasting skills?
Speaker 2: Uh, I'd say potential rating is like you have ninety
Speaker 2: eight probably potential Okay. I think right now you're like
Speaker 2: a solid eighty seven.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm fine with that because, like McHale, I'll probably
Speaker 1: get traded to the Nets and then I'll.
Speaker 2: Just give me the story. I've got it.
Speaker 1: So now for this last segment, we go Muggsy or
Speaker 1: Manu Uggsy Bogues really short, mane Ball really tall. We're
Speaker 1: teammates at one point. So it's just like a this
Speaker 1: or that type action, but we got to go fast.
Speaker 1: Being a lawyer or being a video game.
Speaker 2: Icon, I'd just say, like a little bit video game.
Speaker 1: Just a tad bitch, Okay, that's fine playing video games.
Speaker 1: Are going to a game?
Speaker 2: Oh wow these days, probably video games. It's so hard
Speaker 2: for me to go to basketball games now, Like it's
Speaker 2: just it's insane.
Speaker 1: It's really difficult because your mind's just running.
Speaker 2: No. Well yeah, but also like I love seeing the fans,
Speaker 2: but it gets a little like overwhelming a game sometimes.
Speaker 1: I get that dunks are three pointers.
Speaker 2: I'm always dunks.
Speaker 1: Winning a Super Bowl or winning a Champions League.
Speaker 2: Final, winning super Bowl for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like the rest of the world would say champions.
Speaker 2: We live in America, Well I.
Speaker 1: Would say Champions League. Okay, so I have a different diversity, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm different like that. You know, I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: a ninety eight no Instagram or TikTok.
Speaker 2: Probably TikTok love it.
Speaker 1: Everyone says, well, yeah, I guess that's probably a given.
Speaker 1: Probably has I feel like that has written all.
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of fun on TikTok because I
Speaker 2: like like have kind of calm back to what was
Speaker 2: so great about my social media at the beginning of
Speaker 2: my career, which was to self deprecate or like deprecate others,
Speaker 2: like not in a mean way, but like like kind
Speaker 2: of clap. Tiktoks allows me to do that a little
Speaker 2: bit more than.
Speaker 1: Let's run that up on TikTok. Let's definiteat I love
Speaker 1: it watching a game in real life or at home.
Speaker 2: Uh. I mean, it's still amazing to watch the game
Speaker 2: in real life.
Speaker 1: For sure. There's some of those guys where I think
Speaker 1: it's so fun when you see these people and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: you don't realize how incredible they are until you see
Speaker 1: them in person.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's like the sometimes the size and
Speaker 2: the speed of the game, the speed especially, it's just
Speaker 2: like this is another level.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Kawadim is one of those people where, of course
Speaker 1: we know how amazing he is, but there's something that
Speaker 1: when you're sitting in Crypto Beastly Stables, Crypto, when guys
Speaker 1: just sort of bounce off of him and you don't
Speaker 1: really see that on the TV and in person, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy to be able to see that.
Speaker 2: For sure, Zion or Jaw now or eventually, but you
Speaker 2: probably mean eventually, Yeah, eventually. One's so close.
Speaker 1: I mean it's easy. I'm the first run.
Speaker 2: I'm really close with Zion, so I'll take Zion.
Speaker 1: Okay, New York or LA for what?
Speaker 2: Basketball for life?
Speaker 1: Just living out of the town New York.
Speaker 2: Really I'm confused by Okay, it's just there's something about
Speaker 2: New York. I don't know. Every time I go out there,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Wow, I would never live there, I don't
Speaker 2: think so it's just too much.
Speaker 1: And where would you rather live?
Speaker 2: Where'd you rather where? I'd rather live as LA, but
Speaker 2: where I'd rather go for a week New York. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's also probably because the grass is screen right,
Speaker 2: like if you live here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I always I feel rinaldo or messy.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you can't go wrong with out of those
Speaker 2: guys who probably just messy because of the the recency.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, final question me or Doris Burke. Okay,
Speaker 1: well we know his.
Speaker 2: Answer me, yes, sure, we'll go great.
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