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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sloan. I'm fifteen years old, and I love

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Today, we have a very cool guest Storms.

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Speaker 1: He's the man behind all the awesome NBA two K

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Speaker 1: video games that everyone loves to play. He's always hanging

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Speaker 1: out with all the coolest influencers and playing in the

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Speaker 1: gaming world. And today he's hanging out with me. How

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Speaker 1: cool is that we're talking to the one and only

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Speaker 1: Ronnie too, kat So, Ronnie, I'm fifteen years old and

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Speaker 1: I'm in ninth grade. Okay, but sometimes when you're in

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Speaker 1: ninth grade or when you're fifteen, you can be in

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Speaker 1: tenth grade, so both ways. But I need you to

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Speaker 1: like think about Ronnie when he was fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I was in eleventh grade.

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Speaker 1: Actually, wow, look to you a little prodigy. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I skipped a grade when I was in first grade.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, me me at fifteen, okay, so this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be very hard to believe. I'd say at thirteen,

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Speaker 2: I was the shortest kid in my class. So I

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Speaker 2: was like, wow, I was four foot like eight and

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Speaker 2: then I had a tennis grosper in ninth grade ten inches, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then another like eight inches in eleventh grade. And

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Speaker 2: then I had another one in college. Did you like me?

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Speaker 2: I had to grow to the two feet that I

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Speaker 2: to make six six? Now yeah, you're six six, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like six five six six.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling schedule about this. I think you were two.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if this is real, fact checkers. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I may have to Yeah, I'm only five four, which

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Speaker 1: is okay. Like I don't think I need It's fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like going to pursue a career, so I

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Speaker 1: think it's fine.

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Speaker 2: My wife is four eleven.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Wow, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: There's that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's fine. Whatever. We all grow to our

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Speaker 1: own that's right.

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Speaker 2: She's still wedding for her gro exactly.

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Speaker 1: So because you were four eight, but then six two

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Speaker 1: and then maybe apparently six six, did you play basketball?

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Speaker 1: What was that like?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I picked up basketball late. I picked it

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Speaker 2: up in sixth grade, and I really fell in love

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Speaker 2: with the game to the point where I was playing

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Speaker 2: like four hours a day, like any game that I

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Speaker 2: could find. And then in high school, I was a

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Speaker 2: late bloomer. And I think a lot of it had

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Speaker 2: to do with every time I shot the basket got

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Speaker 2: closer because I was growing yeah, Like so I my

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Speaker 2: game kind of evolved a lot, like late high school,

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Speaker 2: in early college and then early college like my second

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Speaker 2: year I tore my MCL so I never played again

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Speaker 2: after that, like on a collegiate level. But up until

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Speaker 2: that point, like I had a good, like two three

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Speaker 2: year window where I was playing high school and college

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Speaker 2: at a high level. But uh yeah, like I I

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Speaker 2: sucked in ninth tenth grade even before that. But I

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Speaker 2: think my thing, which is kind of like funny because

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Speaker 2: my career was the same way, like I had to

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Speaker 2: like work and work and work and work to be

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Speaker 2: a really good player. That worked out, Like yeah, do

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Speaker 2: you play au or no? I played cyo in middle

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Speaker 2: school again, wasn't as good as the you kids, and

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Speaker 2: then and then yeah, then I played in high school

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Speaker 2: and then I played at UC San Diego and.

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Speaker 1: Grew up a worseman. Or you grew up in Northern Californa.

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Speaker 2: I grew up in northern California. But like I was

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Speaker 2: definitely a forty nine Ers fan and a San Francisco

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Speaker 2: Giants fan. But with the with basketball, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: I never connected with a team. It just never happened.

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Speaker 2: And I still actually am not connected to a team

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Speaker 2: I always followed, like certain players that I really liked,

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Speaker 2: So my early days was Michael Jordan. I know you're fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I hope you know I'm.

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Speaker 1: Familiar with.

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Speaker 2: Shaquille O'Neill also familiar, yes, and then Kevin Durant most recently,

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Speaker 2: so like wherever Katie goes. That's that's the team that

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Speaker 1: And were you a gamer? Like, did you like video games?

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Speaker 2: I was a big gamer, though I may era when

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Speaker 2: I was fifteen, Nintendo sixty four. I still can go

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Speaker 2: Kars Smash Bros. Like I literally I put this out

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Speaker 2: next month's Tiers of the Kingdom release. Uh And so,

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Speaker 2: like I maintained being a gamer, but for a long

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Speaker 2: got to play a lot. Just like high school college,

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Speaker 1: Have you gone to Mario Kart World at Universal.

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Speaker 2: I'm going on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Seriously, I'm can you take I really want to go.

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Speaker 2: I really want to go to ask the wife. It's

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Speaker 2: our six month wife.

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Speaker 1: That's her name.

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Speaker 2: Her name is cecc Bring me.

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Speaker 1: I really want to go. It can be a trial.

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Speaker 1: I'll be your little kid. Great. Great, you can put

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Speaker 1: me in the stroller. Will be fun. I really want

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Speaker 1: to try. Like they have these like bread bull thingies

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Speaker 1: literally the only thing I know, Like, I don't even

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Speaker 2: The japan experience where you could drive around the streets.

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Speaker 1: I doubt that it's like Universal Studios, that's a small area.

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Speaker 2: I should they do it eventually. I'm I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely the k world like an amusement park. Yeah, sick,

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Speaker 1: I can help you start that.

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Speaker 2: If you like, I'm excited. Were brainstorming?

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Speaker 1: Great, I'm glad if fifteen year old you start yourself. Now,

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Speaker 1: what would the reaction be because you've had a career

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Speaker 1: path that is filled with many surprises? So how is

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Speaker 2: Definitely shocked the fact that like to do this thing

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Speaker 2: in sports and gaming two things that I really loved.

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Speaker 2: When I was fifteen is pretty exciting. Maybe I would

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Speaker 2: have been like, oh yeah, of course, because like everybody

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Speaker 2: at fifteen, it's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do whatever

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Speaker 2: I want to do. But no, that wasn't the goal.

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Speaker 2: You know, Like I had a lot of pressure, you know,

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Speaker 2: as an Indian first generation kid. You know, my my

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Speaker 2: parents put a lot of pressure on me to go

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Speaker 2: to post graduate school. I was the first one in

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Speaker 2: or was being something like that. I settled on law

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Speaker 1: What type of law?

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Speaker 2: I really wanted to be a sports agent, so staying

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Speaker 2: in the sports thing. But like I was inspired by

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Speaker 2: Jerry McGuire.

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Speaker 1: What that is I do? Ronny, I'm just going to podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, yes, But so you've been working with

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Speaker 1: two K since twenty ten, right or like since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight? Okay, I was sorry, I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 2: Sorry that was wasn't that the year you were born?

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Speaker 1: I was on in two thousand and seven. But September,

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Speaker 1: so like I was like, scarely. Yeah, it's sometimes I

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Speaker 1: tell players, I'm like, yeah, the year you were drafted,

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Speaker 1: I was not alive.

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Speaker 2: So my career can almost drive. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of that, I got my permit. I had

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Speaker 1: my gradulations driving lesson last week. I didn't hit anything,

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Speaker 2: You have plenty of time to do that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, oh don't worry, I will. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's going to come. I feel very bad for Los

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Speaker 2: Drive Hodger, Everyone's houd your kids.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Ye, I'm scared. But which cover since two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eight has been your favorite?

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Speaker 2: I mean most connected obviously with two K eleven because

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Speaker 2: like that was the first time we put Michael Shore

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Speaker 2: like the best, like aesthetically, it was either the two

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Speaker 2: like kind of these colors, like the Miami Miami colors,

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Speaker 2: or the year before with Lebron with the black and

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Speaker 2: on covers to tell stories, like I'm really connected with

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Speaker 2: both of them, Like, I think we did a really

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Speaker 2: good job in those. Recently we've gone back into like

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Speaker 2: but like as a marketer, as a storyteller, like I

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Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about how you're like pretty smart,

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Speaker 1: it's impressive, law school. Cool. Cool. But here's my question

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Speaker 1: for you. Okay, so there's thirty teams in the NBA

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Speaker 1: and each team plays eighty ten games. Do you know

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Speaker 1: how many total games there are?

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Speaker 2: And you're trying to trick me, of course I am. Well,

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Speaker 2: so this is your math. It takes two teams to play, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it takes so that means eighty two divided by two

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Speaker 2: is forty one times thirty is twelve thirty? Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Wait you you must have known that.

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Speaker 2: I got an eight hundred on my math essay. Two

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Speaker 1: See we know no. Like when I wrote that question,

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be so fun. I'm

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Speaker 1: just something that's crazy. H wow, look at you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, can I hire you to be my yes tutor?

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Speaker 1: And you were that honored?

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Speaker 2: Could I could? I was like, really really good at algebra.

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Speaker 2: You already done algebra.

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Speaker 1: But honored algebra two. I'm scared, I do, Like I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm questioning it.

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Speaker 2: So I had younger brothers, so like, I know, and

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Speaker 2: then you have calculus after that. Yes, I sucked at calculus.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a math person. But now that with my

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Speaker 1: new tutor, I'm so.

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Speaker 2: Excited for it.

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Speaker 1: Let's see how this does problem. But onto the one thousand,

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Speaker 1: two hundred thirty games. To give ratings out to every

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Speaker 1: single NBA player, that's a pretty impressive thing to do.

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Speaker 1: How many of those games do you think you watch?

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Speaker 2: Uh, well, we have a team that does the writing

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Speaker 2: stuff beyond me. But I'd say i'd say that I

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Speaker 2: probably watch right around maybe like one hundred games a year.

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Speaker 2: I watch a lot. I used to watch a lot

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Speaker 2: more when you know, like there's a lot of distractions

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Speaker 2: these days between getting married and everything else.

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Speaker 1: But coming on amazing podcast.

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Speaker 2: Great podcasts like this one. Yeah, so like probably one

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Speaker 2: hundred and i'd probably go to like maybe twenty five

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Speaker 2: thirty games a year, all over the in every market

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Speaker 2: this year. I've been to Madison Square Garden, I've been

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Speaker 2: Chase Center. I've been to Staples for both teams. Uh, crypto, Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I'm never I'm never going to do it.

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Speaker 1: It feels so unnatural.

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Speaker 1: That is pretty cool. So, I know you talked about

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Speaker 2: him by twenty points a couple of weeks ago, so

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not sure anymore. No, I'm just kidding.

436
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 2: Probably probably him. He is. He is really good. I

437
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,800
Speaker 2: know he plays the city all the time. You Know.

438
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 2: The funny thing is we can look up all the

439
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,400
Speaker 2: players of you know, like all their hours, right, so,

440
00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 2: like I get a lot more information. And then than

441
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 2: most people. He plays a lot. Uh DeAndre Aden plays

442
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 2: a lot, Jamal Murray plays a lot. Yeah, it's it's

443
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean, like we're talking about some of the best

444
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 2: players on each of these teams. Kevin Durant plays a lot.

445
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: So but yeah, I would I would hold up, oh

446
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: for sure. You know, Like I actually think it works

447
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 2: both ways, right, Like they have an advantage because that

448
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,920
Speaker 2: playbook gets beat into their brains of practice, like over

449
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: and over every single day, and like our game is

450
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: so authentic that that's what they kind of are ingrained

451
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 2: to see. So I think it helps them. Like they

452
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,959
Speaker 2: see off ball movement, they see like kind of sets

453
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, they see they know what plays

454
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,920
Speaker 2: coming before because our ai is so good that I

455
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: think it definitely helps them. And then it obviously inspires

456
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: them to you know, take that to the court. It's

457
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a symbiotic relationship.

458
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Speaker 1: You should get a ring for that, because like if

459
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Speaker 1: they if they're you know, the final.

460
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Speaker 2: I've got a ring. I've actually got a Warrior's ring.

461
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Speaker 1: You how much? How much for it?

462
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Speaker 2: I don't pay for it?

463
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Speaker 1: No, can I pay for Oh?

464
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Speaker 2: It was the first one actually, wow, the first championship.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah cool, Yeah, that's very cool. It was very nice

466
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Speaker 2: of them, miss give me one.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what okay, what's like your favorite out of the

468
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 1: last four years of the Warriors rings? You know, like

469
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Speaker 1: all of them have like new things on them, Like

470
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Speaker 1: some of them have like the different diamonds. You have

471
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Speaker 1: a favorite or the one that you have, you'd have to.

472
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Speaker 2: Stay, I have to I'm not saying that business is

473
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Speaker 2: the one I had. I think it just meant so

474
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 2: much to that town, right, like you're never gonna they

475
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: were so bad for so long and they hadn't won

476
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: in forty years, and uh, that first one was special.

477
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: I was on you know, like part of the parade

478
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 2: like that. That whole ride was so much fun. You know,

479
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: having just worked with Steph on our cover a couple

480
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 2: of years before that, like U or right right around

481
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: that time. Actually we were working with Steph as our cover,

482
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Speaker 2: so like all of that just kind of like working

483
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Speaker 2: together in my city. Like it was really cool.

484
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Speaker 1: Okay, who is the best shoe game? But also which

485
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Speaker 1: NBA player has the best shoe?

486
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Speaker 2: Oh wow?

487
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: And and for all of it.

488
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: The best shoe game. I mean, Chris Paul's got a

489
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: legacy there and people don't even know, Like he's got

490
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 2: grails that you would not believe. So he's up there

491
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: in terms of shoe game, best signature shoe. It depends

492
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Speaker 2: on what you mean, like if you're playing If to

493
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: play basketball, I would say toss up between Kobe and PG.

494
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Speaker 2: But the best looking shoe, I mean there's different. So

495
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 2: whatts I think? The new Lebron twenty is actually pretty sick? Yeah,

496
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Speaker 2: after a couple of years where I was like, eh,

497
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Speaker 2: I don't really get the direction that they're going. The

498
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Speaker 2: Lebron twenty is really dope.

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Speaker 1: What would you rate your shoe game one through ten?

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Speaker 2: Well, I used to have seven hundred pairs of shoes

501
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: and I have I have a bunch of grails. I

502
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: also have ones that were like samples like that were

503
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: made for me for some a variety of reasons. So yeah,

504
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: I'd probably rank up there.

505
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Speaker 1: There was a I just saw this video on TikTok

506
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Speaker 1: where it's this kid and he's in ninth grade, also fifteen,

507
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: and he's the biggest shoe size like ever, it's bigger

508
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: than Shacks and everything.

509
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: And under three.

510
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah an under armour like made him his own shoe.

511
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Speaker 1: I thought that that was so.

512
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: Cool, super dope, and it was so cool as Shack

513
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: to send him those shoes. Oh yeah, that was he

514
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: speaks to hell awesome. I'm a fifteen Okay, that's.

515
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I feel like that's I wonder what the

516
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Speaker 1: median NBA size shoes.

517
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe fifteen right around there probably probably.

518
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: Something like that. Who do you think is the funniest

519
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: NBA player?

520
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 2: Probably Carl Anthony Towns. Really, I feel like people don't

521
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: say people don't know him?

522
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: Who aunt Anthony Edwards?

523
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, Yeah you don't know this. I don't know. Well,

524
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Speaker 2: I mean, like, look, I've obviously have spent time. Maybe

525
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: Anthony Ansidon opened up to me as much, but like

526
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: kat like you get to know him. He is real hilarious, Yeah,

527
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: super funny.

528
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: Saying you learned something new every day.

529
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: I love that.

530
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Speaker 1: Now I'm like gonna look at kat in a whole

531
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Speaker 1: different light totally. Is there a certain NBA player that

532
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: you really feel a close bond with? You guys are

533
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: just besties?

534
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 2: Him? For sure. He was one of my groomsmen for

535
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: my wedding, so that him definitely. There were all three

536
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: other NBA players that were at my wedding or were

537
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: invited into my wedding, Katie, Paul George, and Harrison Barnes

538
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: and then kat So those are the four.

539
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, so this is going to get really

540
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: this could get hotter than Kelly. Just to get hotter

541
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: than Kelly. What rating in two k would you give

542
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: my podcasting podcasting skills?

543
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 2: Uh, I'd say potential rating is like you have ninety

544
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Speaker 2: eight probably potential Okay. I think right now you're like

545
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: a solid eighty seven.

546
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm fine with that because, like McHale, I'll probably

547
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: get traded to the Nets and then I'll.

548
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Speaker 2: Just give me the story. I've got it.

549
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Speaker 1: So now for this last segment, we go Muggsy or

550
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Speaker 1: Manu Uggsy Bogues really short, mane Ball really tall. We're

551
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: teammates at one point. So it's just like a this

552
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: or that type action, but we got to go fast.

553
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: Being a lawyer or being a video game.

554
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Speaker 2: Icon, I'd just say, like a little bit video game.

555
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: Just a tad bitch, Okay, that's fine playing video games.

556
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: Are going to a game?

557
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: Oh wow these days, probably video games. It's so hard

558
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: for me to go to basketball games now, Like it's

559
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: just it's insane.

560
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: It's really difficult because your mind's just running.

561
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: No. Well yeah, but also like I love seeing the fans,

562
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 2: but it gets a little like overwhelming a game sometimes.

563
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: I get that dunks are three pointers.

564
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm always dunks.

565
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Speaker 1: Winning a Super Bowl or winning a Champions League.

566
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Speaker 2: Final, winning super Bowl for sure.

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like the rest of the world would say champions.

568
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: We live in America, Well I.

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Speaker 1: Would say Champions League. Okay, so I have a different diversity, Yeah,

570
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Speaker 1: because I'm different like that. You know, I'm gonna be

571
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Speaker 1: a ninety eight no Instagram or TikTok.

572
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Speaker 2: Probably TikTok love it.

573
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: Everyone says, well, yeah, I guess that's probably a given.

574
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Speaker 1: Probably has I feel like that has written all.

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Speaker 2: I've had a lot of fun on TikTok because I

576
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Speaker 2: like like have kind of calm back to what was

577
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: so great about my social media at the beginning of

578
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: my career, which was to self deprecate or like deprecate others,

579
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: like not in a mean way, but like like kind

580
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: of clap. Tiktoks allows me to do that a little

581
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: bit more than.

582
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Speaker 1: Let's run that up on TikTok. Let's definiteat I love

583
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: it watching a game in real life or at home.

584
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: Uh. I mean, it's still amazing to watch the game

585
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: in real life.

586
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 1: For sure. There's some of those guys where I think

587
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: it's so fun when you see these people and you're like, wow,

588
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: you don't realize how incredible they are until you see

589
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: them in person.

590
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's like the sometimes the size and

591
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 2: the speed of the game, the speed especially, it's just

592
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: like this is another level.

593
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Kawadim is one of those people where, of course

594
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: we know how amazing he is, but there's something that

595
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: when you're sitting in Crypto Beastly Stables, Crypto, when guys

596
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: just sort of bounce off of him and you don't

597
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: really see that on the TV and in person, it's

598
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy to be able to see that.

599
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: For sure, Zion or Jaw now or eventually, but you

600
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: probably mean eventually, Yeah, eventually. One's so close.

601
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's easy. I'm the first run.

602
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm really close with Zion, so I'll take Zion.

603
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: Okay, New York or LA for what?

604
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: Basketball for life?

605
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: Just living out of the town New York.

606
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 2: Really I'm confused by Okay, it's just there's something about

607
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: New York. I don't know. Every time I go out there,

608
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, Wow, I would never live there, I don't

609
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: think so it's just too much.

610
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: And where would you rather live?

611
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: Where'd you rather where? I'd rather live as LA, but

612
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: where I'd rather go for a week New York. Yeah,

613
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 2: but that's also probably because the grass is screen right,

614
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: like if you live here?

615
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I always I feel rinaldo or messy.

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00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you can't go wrong with out of those

617
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: guys who probably just messy because of the the recency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, final question me or Doris Burke. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well we know his.

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Speaker 2: Answer me, yes, sure, we'll go great.

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