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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Popper's Perspective, part of the

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Speaker 1: Giants Hubtle podcast, brought to you by Bob's Discount Furniture.

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Speaker 1: So the Giants are playing the Packers, and when you

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Speaker 1: think about the Giants and Packers, you got to go

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Speaker 1: back to the two thousand and seven NFC Championship game

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Speaker 1: and joining us to talk about it is Plexico Burst Fox.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for a couple of minutes. Hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, thank you man. Everything's going real well, all right.

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Speaker 1: So obviously it's nice and warm right now as we're

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Speaker 1: recording this, probably about I don't know, maybe one hundred

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Speaker 1: degrees difference than.

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Speaker 3: That day in Green Bay, easily.

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Speaker 1: When you get off the bus and you get to

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field and you're gonna go out and do your

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Speaker 1: normal pregame routine. What's going through your mind at that

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Speaker 4: You know, every game, you know, me and Eli, we

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Speaker 4: run through the whole route tree. We like to get

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Speaker 4: there like probably three three and a half hours before

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna run the whole route tree from

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Speaker 3: both sides of the.

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Speaker 4: Field, and we get out there at our normal time

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Speaker 4: and there's nobody in the stadium, Like there's not even

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Speaker 4: a game going on that day, so it's nobody in

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Speaker 3: And so we get out there.

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Speaker 4: You know, he throws me hitching a slant and I

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Speaker 4: catch both of them and I waved them both. I said,

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Speaker 4: he man, we got a problem. He said, what's wrong?

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Speaker 4: I said, I can't feel my hands. So we go

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Speaker 4: back in and we started getting ready for the game.

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Speaker 4: And I'm saying to myself, I've never even been in

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Speaker 4: an element as cold as the Green Bay game was

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Speaker 4: that day, and let alone to be able to go

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Speaker 4: out and play in it and play well, and it

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Speaker 4: was just a day that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with the wind chill, it's minus twenty three,

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Speaker 1: it's it's absolutely brutal. So you go out there, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know, the old linemen, they normally went out and

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Speaker 1: had their routine. Guys came out of the tunnel, went

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Speaker 1: doing anything like they normally did. But now you got

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Speaker 1: to go play in this thing, right and you and

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Speaker 1: Eli Eli targeted you thirteen times in the game, and

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Speaker 1: you had eleven.

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Speaker 2: You had eleven catches.

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Speaker 1: You, guys, as the game unfolded and you started to

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Speaker 1: play in the game, it looked like you and Eli

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Speaker 1: were playing in fifty five degree weather. Why did it

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Speaker 3: I just think the defense that they were playing Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: Had a plan to come out and play man and

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Speaker 4: man and play bumper run against us, And you know,

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Speaker 4: I just took it personally. I think that we had

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Speaker 4: got beaten pretty handily. And week two, when Green Bay

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Speaker 4: came to New York, New Jersey, it be just like

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Speaker 4: forty to sixteen or something, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 3: And I remember after.

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Speaker 4: The game ten myself, I say, I was like, man,

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Speaker 4: the only way that we get to play these guys

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Speaker 4: again is in the NFC Championship. Like we're talking about

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Speaker 4: week two, I mean, everything is so far out that

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Speaker 4: you know, you never know how the season is going

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Speaker 4: to unfold. And I and I had the opportunity to

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Speaker 4: play against him again. And a lot of people do notice,

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Speaker 4: but al Paris is the person is the one that

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Speaker 4: stepped on my ankle and tore my tendon and popped

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Speaker 4: had a little bit to do with my anchor injury.

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Speaker 4: You know, I was stepping on my ankle that game,

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Speaker 4: and you know, I just had the opportunity to play

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Speaker 4: they were just going to come out and just play

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Speaker 3: You know, being in that weather was.

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Speaker 4: So was what it was that we weren't going to

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Speaker 4: you get to that point, I had already lost two

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Speaker 4: and just knowing that you're like sixty minutes away from

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Speaker 4: you know, the way that they were playing defense, and

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Speaker 1: As you're beating him route after route after route. Was

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Speaker 3: Oh man, we were really getting after me and him.

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Speaker 4: You know, he was I didn't make the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 4: that year, so I was really upset about that. A

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Speaker 3: Best in the business.

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to put my stamp on it to

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Speaker 4: he may may maybe first team off for corner, but

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Speaker 4: I think I'm pretty good at myself. And that was

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Speaker 4: the you know, that was the coverage that Green Bay played.

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Speaker 4: They played a lot of man and man up close

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Speaker 3: And you know, like I said, I just took it personal.

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Speaker 1: You know, you told us at the beginning that you

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Speaker 1: mono amano you and Al Harris and gil Bride is

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Speaker 2: Is just feeding you the rock. Did you not feel

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Speaker 3: I was cold.

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Speaker 4: I had these uh these insert warmers, but I had

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Speaker 4: but I had them take to the outside of my foot.

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Speaker 4: And Ronnie Base he was like, plus, you can't do that.

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Speaker 4: You can't take these things to the bottom of the feet.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be it's gonna They're gonna burn your feet.

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Speaker 4: And I say, well, if those days, if these answers

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Speaker 4: running pretty fast. And I didn't feel my feet at all.

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Speaker 4: My hands if they were what they wore, I had.

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Speaker 4: I knew that if I could go out and dominate

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Speaker 4: a zone team playing too high coverage. They were basically

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Speaker 4: Then they're gonna have They're gonna have to make it

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody talked about with that weather that you know,

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Speaker 1: it was Eli who played as if he was used

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Speaker 1: when you think about what he was able to do

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Speaker 4: I think we had a great plan going in and

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Speaker 4: you know we got to the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 4: he controlled the offense, man, it was it was efficient.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we ran the football when we needed to,

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Speaker 3: And it's a difference.

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Speaker 4: Between you know, playing well and you know, having good plays.

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Speaker 4: But he played great in those third down situations where

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Speaker 2: You know, when you.

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Speaker 1: Look back at the game, you know, there's the Bradshaw

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Speaker 2: But it gets called back. You guys controlled this game.

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Speaker 1: Was there any level of frustration and the fact that

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know what, I think the first player of

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Speaker 4: for us to get him into a you know, over

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Speaker 3: This guy just missed the kick to go to the

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Speaker 4: And you get the ball back to Brett Fall and

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Speaker 3: There's this Green Bay miste like really real.

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Speaker 4: And you know r w FHMB was a punt and

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Speaker 4: you know, Antonio makes a great play on the screen

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Speaker 4: where if he doesn't fight through those offensive alignments, the

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Speaker 4: we had an opportunity to win this game and in regulation,

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Speaker 3: Times it caught there a third time and kick the

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Speaker 4: To get there, I mean, you never would have thought

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Speaker 4: that the game would have went the way that it did.

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Speaker 3: To for us to win it.

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Speaker 1: You had so many great games in your career. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know two weeks later you catch the game winning

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Speaker 2: But when you think about games from a.

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Speaker 1: Personal standpoint, is this one of the highlights for you?

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Speaker 1: This game and the way you play it again and

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Speaker 1: Sal Harris considering everything that was the run up going

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Speaker 1: first team All Pro and and all the and he

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Speaker 2: This one of the most satisfying games of your career?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: I would say yes, for for you know, the game

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Speaker 4: that we had, and you know the uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: the competition and one on one battles that we had,

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Speaker 4: and for him to get on television and you know,

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Speaker 4: to say that, you know, I'm one of the best.

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Speaker 4: My best wide receiver was in the National Football League.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's all I really wanted to be recognized as.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I wasn't able to get to the

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Speaker 4: Pro Bowl. And I'm playing against him, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm Sam Madison and Al Harris a great friends. And

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Speaker 4: you know Sam, Al goes to Sam and he's like,

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Speaker 4: tell Plexico, I'm gonna lock him up.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna shut him down for this game.

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Speaker 4: And then he gets on that for television and he

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Speaker 4: says he says the same thing, or Plexico, what he gets,

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Speaker 4: he's going to get when it comes to Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: He's going to get man to man. And I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 4: I mean, this guy's pretty confident in these abilities that

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Speaker 4: he's just really just going to go out there and

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Speaker 3: And it's really the only plan that they had. And

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Speaker 3: I recognized that, and Eli recognized that.

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Speaker 4: And for us to be at the level where we

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Speaker 4: were going that game and how fishing we were in

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Speaker 4: that in that in that environment, in that weather, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, sixty minutes away from a super Bowl, it's

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Speaker 4: probably it goes right up there with one of the

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Speaker 4: best games I ever had.

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Speaker 1: Whenever the Giants play the Green Bay Packers, Giants fans

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Speaker 1: will always remember that NFC Championship game. And you can't

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Speaker 1: talk about that game without talking about Plexico Burst Plexico.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate a couple of minutes. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for joining us and sharing some awesome stories from that

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Speaker 1: memorable day.

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Speaker 3: All right, Bob, thanks man, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Good talk.

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Speaker 1: With you, Plexico Burst joining us on this edition of

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Speaker 1: The Papa's Perspective, part of the Giants Huddle podcast, brought

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