1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm excited today we 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,319 Speaker 1: have Miranda Divine. She is an award winning winning columnist 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: at the New York Post. Miranda, thank you so much 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: for being on today. 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: Pleasure to be on with you, Tudor. 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Your ears must have been ringing recently because the former 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: first son was chatting about you again. He doesn't really 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: like you. Have you noticed that? 9 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder why. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: I actually have the clip. I want to play it 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: really quick because I want to get your reaction. So 12 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: this is Hunter Biden. He's a little mad about the 13 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: laptop thing, still still his fault. But here it is. 14 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: Here, here he goes, there's. 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: No ethics in what, you know, like someone as horrendously 16 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: ugly as Miranda Divine physically and in terms of her uh, 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: in terms of rathics, it does. I mean she is 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: you know, a and and and that goes for you know, 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: you know, I mean daily mail and you know, but 20 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: I mean they're horse, I mean their horse for money. 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: And you know she does it because she makes money. 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: And you know when when she goes to sleep at night, 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: and I'm sure she sleeps just fine. You know, I 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: don't know anybody that's going to be more than her 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: when she's gone. 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: I think, person, first of all, you're gorgeous. Secondly, it's 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: so funny how you actually do report for money. That's 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: called a job, but Hunter might not know what a 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: job is. 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. I hadn't thought of that. Yeah. 31 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: I mean, look, he's he's a damaged, broken person, and 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: he's lashing out, and he's now decided that because his 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: father's no longer relevant, that he's going to try and 34 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: grab some limelight by going on these podcasts. And I'm 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: not sure what he's doing to support himself or whether 36 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: he's got you know, hidden pots of money somewhere. But 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: you know, I don't wish him any harm. I understand 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: he you know, he's upset about the way his father 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: was dispatched and the way things turned out for him. 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: But he got a pardon. You know, his father gave 41 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: him a pardon going right back to twenty fourteen, and 42 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: you know, he made tens of millions of dollars off 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: his father's name with his father's help, influence, pedaling around 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: the world, causing great damage to America's good name and 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: potentially to America's national security. So I just don't really 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: have much time for any of the bidens. I've written 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: as much as I could, you know, find out about 48 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: them in two books and all my reporting. I think 49 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: that at least the American people now know that Joe 50 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: Biden who he really was or is not, you know, 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: honest Joe, modest, Joe the poorest man in Congress, as 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 2: he made out he was a great father, that none 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: of those things is true. So I think for history, 54 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: at least, you know, even if no one's going to jail, 55 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: at least people know really the full story about Joe Biden. 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: And you make such a good point. He's upset about 57 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: how his father was pushed kind of out of the presidency, 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: but it's not because of the laptop. That's the interesting 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: part about it. He actually, after this was all revealed, 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: his father still got elected. He still had the mainstream 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: media that covered, I mean, and they really covered and lied, 62 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: and then they continued lying. For Kamala Harris, that's the 63 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: thing that shocks me is that he could say anything 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: when they have this. Anybody who reports the truth is 65 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: a whore, but anybody who covers for them is their 66 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: best friend. 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: Yes, and pure of ethics. Y. Yes, I mean yes, 68 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: the story of the laptop. We didn't have all of it, 69 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: but we had. You know, Rudy Giuliani had been given 70 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: the hard drive copy of the laptop by the Laptop 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: Prepare shop owner John Paul macaaac. A hero. Rudy's a hero. 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: And you know, we reported what we could and what 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: we had at the time. Three weeks before the election, 74 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: My brilliant colleague, Emma Joe Morris, who's now moved on 75 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: to bigger and better things, but she and Gabrielle fon 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: Rouge pretty much laid out the tale of the laptop 77 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: and the most egregious or some of the most egregious 78 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: elements in there that were very damaging or should have 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: been damaging to Joe Biden because he'd told us throughout 80 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: the campaign that he knew nothing about his son Hunters 81 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: overseas business dealings. And you know, our very first story 82 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: on October fourteen of twenty twenty was about Joe Biden 83 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: meeting with Hunter's Ukrainian business partner in Washington when he 84 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: was vice president, and Joe Biden never you know, admitted 85 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: to it at the time, and the rest of the 86 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: media covered up and Big Tech censored us and the 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: dirty fifty one fifty one former intelligence officials were asked 88 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: by Anthony Blincoln, who was then Joe Biden's campaign senior 89 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: campaign official, to write this dishonest letter saying that the 90 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: laptop and therefore our reporting was Russian disinformation. And it 91 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: all went away and Joe Biden suffered no consequences and 92 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: he won the election. Well, he became president, let's say, 93 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: thanks to you know, these dirty tricks, and then they 94 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 2: just covered everything up. And it's really egregious that even 95 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: now the media hasn't fully you know, that sort of 96 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: August institutional media like the New York Times and the 97 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: Washington Post has never really come to grips with the 98 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: lies that they told about the laptop, about Russia Gate, 99 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: the Russia Gate hoax, the complete cart launch they gave 100 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: to Donald Trump's enemies in the CIA, in the FBI, 101 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: the sort of deep state operatives who are undermining him 102 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: from day one, even before he was elected, and concocted 103 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: the lies about Russia. And you know, I think ultimately 104 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: the failure of the media is as big a story 105 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: here as the malfeasance of the deep state, and these institutions, 106 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: and also I think the weakness of many Republicans, and 107 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: you're better placed to talk about that, but I just 108 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 2: see now with the seditious six that there are Republican 109 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: members of Congress who are defending people like Mark Kelly 110 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: and Maggie Goodlander and others who who you know, just 111 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: were inciting the military and the intelligence community to be 112 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: insubordinate at the very least and defy orders from the 113 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: commander in chief, President Trump. 114 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: Well, this is I mean, we have people doing videos 115 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: on it now. I mean, this is a normal thing 116 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: for members of Congress now to say go against the 117 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: commander in chief. We just saw Alissa Slakin doing this, 118 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: and now we have Mark Kelly and people are saying 119 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: this is fine. And I I still can't believe that 120 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: this is where we are, that we are accepting of this, 121 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: and that Democrats don't push back on this and say 122 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: if you do this now, this will happen when we're 123 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: in church. They don't care. And I just want to say, because. 124 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: It won't happen because the Republicans don't break the rules 125 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: and they don't play dirty. They still there are some 126 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: Republicans who still think that they have to play by 127 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: the Marquis of Queensburry rules and do everything by the 128 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 2: book and abide by tradition, such as, you know, not 129 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: abolishing the filibusta. And it seems like they still think 130 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: that we're in sort of twenty twenty fifteen. Everything's changed, 131 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: And so. 132 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: I want to talk about how even because I think 133 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: this goes into this whole story that you've been reporting 134 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: on with Thomas Crooks, there is a lot of information 135 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump that we were 136 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: not told, that was hidden. And the interesting part about 137 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: this is that I see people going wild about the 138 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: Epstein files, and yet we had an attempted assassination on 139 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: our president and at the time, a former president and 140 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: a candidate for president, and a man was killed, two 141 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: other men were shot. There is a ton of information 142 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: about this. He was young, a young man who did this, 143 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: and yet this hasn't come out. And the fact of 144 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: the matter is he should have been underwatch, and he 145 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: should have been he should never have been able to 146 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: get to the president. 147 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: Well, yes, and I mean the catastrophe of choices made 148 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 2: by the Secret Service, their uttering competence, if that's just 149 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: what it was, that allowed that twenty year old Thomas 150 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: Crooks to get onto a roof above a rally where 151 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: President Trump was speaking in Butler, Pennsylvania and fire off 152 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: eight shots before he was shot dead himself. It kind 153 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: of defies belief. But then sort of compounding that problem 154 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: is why was Thomas Crooks never picked up as a 155 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: potential threat when he was online in public forums using 156 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: his own name Thomas Crooks on seventeen different platforms that 157 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: our source has found. 158 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: But we were told there was no there was no 159 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: footprint online of this guy, which that was what shocked me. 160 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: And I read that not only was there a digital trail, 161 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: but it was of violent threats and extremist ideology and 162 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: he had already talked about murder and assassinations and he 163 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: was like regularly talking about this. 164 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know where the idea came from that 165 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: he had no digital footprint, because even the past FBI 166 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: Biden's FBI in the two weeks after Butler, we had 167 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: Christopher Ray testify and also paul Abate, then the deputy 168 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: director of the FBI testified, and Paula Bate did say 169 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: that they had found some social media of Crooks with 170 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 2: more than seven hundred comments, which I assume is the 171 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: YouTube that our source found because there are like seven 172 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five some odd comments from Crooks on there, 173 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: so I assume he's talking about that. So I don't 174 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: think the FBI was specifically saying there's nothing. But what 175 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: Paula Bate did that I think was very misleading to Congress, 176 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: and you know, a lie by omission was not to mention. 177 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 2: He sort of gave the impression that Crooks was just 178 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: this sort of far right, anti Semitic, you know, pro 179 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: Trump person or not. You didn't say pro Trump, but 180 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: andti Smidic, you know, far right person, and so, you know, 181 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: just didn't like government. And so I think that's misleading 182 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: because what you see from the digital footprint that was 183 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: discovered by our source is that sure that was Crooks 184 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: up until December of twenty nineteen. For you know, when 185 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: he was fifteen, sixteen seventeen, posting all the time, he 186 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: hated Ilin Ohmer, he hated the squad, murder the Democrats, 187 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: all these vicious violent ways. He wanted them all to 188 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: die and be killed and murdered. That was all very open. 189 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: But then in January twenty twenty, he flips and he 190 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: goes from being really pro Trump, just saying he's the 191 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: definition of patriotism and what a great guy he is. 192 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: And then January twenty twenty, he suddenly becomes harshly critical 193 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: of Trump. He's anti Trump. And then he becomes increasingly 194 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: more violent in his rhetoric and starts talking about you know, 195 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: there's a post long post where he talks about assassinating 196 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 2: politicians and political leaders, and he's saying, you know, you 197 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 2: can only get power through the muzzle of a garnetc. 198 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: And he's talking about using an AR fifteen. Now, all 199 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: of those should have been flashing neon lights to the 200 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: multiple intelligence agencies, seventeen of them that Americans pay billions 201 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: of dollars every year to fund, and all there at 202 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: the intelligence divisions of all the different law enforcement agencies, 203 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 2: including the Capitol Police, that should have been on the ball. 204 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Capital Police says its own intelligence division, which does use 205 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: web crawling type software to look through public comments. 206 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: So this is something that we when we are just 207 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: writing out on our social media, all these posts, they 208 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: are actively being watched by the government. This is not 209 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: like now, if you see something extreme, it's going to 210 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: be found. 211 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, not when watched like cash Betellis said, Oh, we 212 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: can't spy on people. This is just software that just 213 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: looks through public information, not looking at your private email. 214 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: It's looking at when you post. 215 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: When you post. 216 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: Thomas Crooks posts publicly on YouTube for anyone in the 217 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: world to see. You've got this web crawling software that 218 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: looks for names of the Capitol Police Intelligence Division, looking 219 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: for names of members of Congress five hundred and thirty five, 220 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: whatever they are, and their families. They're supposed to be 221 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: protecting them, so look for their names, particularly members of 222 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: the Squad. I'm told, members of the Squad, members of 223 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: the Freedom Caucus who are very prominent, volatile, sort of 224 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: controversial say and any any words associated with them that 225 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: are violent, like that Crooks used murder, you know, hang, burn, body, death, kill, assassinate. 226 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: Those words associated with the names of members of Congress 227 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: should at the very least have triggered some warning inside 228 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: the Capitol Police. 229 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 230 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. You're saying that there is this 231 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: software software that is protecting members of Congress, that you've 232 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: heard that the squad is more actively searched than others 233 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: because of their kind of their I guess rhetoric is 234 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more heightened, so they're watching that for 235 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: that more closely. I just want to quite not quite okay, 236 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: what are you saying, because I'm like, they're telling us 237 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: like we don't need the police, but they have some 238 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: even monitoring social media. 239 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: Yet there is an intelligence division of the Capitol Police, 240 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: and I'm told by a former high level Capital Police 241 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: person that they actively have as a priority they protect 242 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: all members of Congress, but as a priority, the more 243 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: volatile ones who do get death threats, et cetera, they 244 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: are you know, they're somehow elevated to even more protective status, 245 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: and that this person didn't know exactly what the software is, 246 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: but said, all law enforcement uses web crawling type software 247 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: and they're different names for them. And it just twenty 248 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: four seven. No one's looking at it. It just goes 249 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: through and if it finds it's like when you do 250 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: a Google search for a particular term and it just 251 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: sends you updates. Oh we just found Tutor Dixon's name 252 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: in this story, right, so same thing. So it's very benign. 253 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: It just goes through public posts, but if it finds 254 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: the combination. It's just simple. You go, like with the 255 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: Google search, you go elan Omer and and then you 256 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: just have all these words that might indicate a threat. 257 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: And if it comes up positive, as it would have 258 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 2: in the case of Thomas Crooks a million times over, 259 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: then that should flag extra scrutiny for Thomas Crooks. And 260 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: it's not just the Capitol Police which should have been 261 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 2: flagged because of elan Omer. You know, the FBI. I 262 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: don't know it with it as much detail because they 263 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: won't talk to me about it. But what the FBI does, 264 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: but you know, we're told that from the Secret Service 265 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: and the FBI that Thomas Crooks never came on their 266 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: radar before. Butler if he. 267 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Didn't, but he should have, Yeah, because he he had. 268 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: He threatened before. He when he liked Trump, he threatened 269 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: the squad and openly threatened the squad. When heed he 270 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: hated Trump, he went against him and he threatened him. 271 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't actually stay I want to kill Trump. 272 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 2: But he talked about assassinating political leaders and military leaders. 273 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: And so if you looked at his rhetoric in the 274 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: month in the months between January of twenty twenty and 275 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: August of twenty twenty, you could assume that he was 276 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: going to go. If he was going to kill anybody, 277 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: try to kill anyone, it would be likely that President 278 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 2: Trump would be on his list of victims. But I mean, 279 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: I've only got a you know, the minimal amount that 280 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 2: was discovered by my source using open source, and you 281 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: know the sort of tools available to private investigators. We 282 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: don't have the story. We don't have you know, Thomas 283 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: Crook's devices, his Google searchers, his encrypted apps, all of 284 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: the information that the FBI has. And I don't understand 285 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: since Thomas Crooks is dead, since the FBI is telling 286 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: us and has always told us, that he acted alone, 287 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 2: since they're saying there's no foreign involvement, and effectively the 288 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: case is closed, although cash Bettel says it's sort of, 289 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,959 Speaker 2: you know, en dormant pending if more information comes in, 290 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: but they're not actively investigating. So I do not understand 291 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: why more information, a full report has not been given 292 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: to the American people, and particularly two members of Congress, 293 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: like Senator Johnson, like Pat Fallon, like others who have 294 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: complained about being quote stonewalled by the FBI, including Trump's FBI. 295 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: And you know, the fact that Ron Johnson in July, 296 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: on the twelfth month anniversary of Butler, had to actually 297 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: subpoena Cash Btel because he was so frustrated that he 298 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: hadn't received any of the information that he'd been asking 299 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: for for a year is pretty telling. And I think 300 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: the reaction of Cash Betel and Dan Bongino to people 301 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 2: like me in terms of trying to discredit us and 302 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: shoot the messenger while at the same time confirming everything 303 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: that we've said after the fact that we've reported, I 304 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: think is also questionable. I don't, I honestly do not 305 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: understand it. And I think that you know, at the 306 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: very least, the President, Helen Comparatory, the widow of Corey, 307 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: and the two men who were badly injured by Thomas 308 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: Crooks deserve more information. And I also think that this, 309 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: as Chris Wecker has said former I think he assistant 310 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: director of the FBO or senior official, as he has said, 311 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: this should be a learning moment and a time for 312 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: the FBI to teach the public about what to look for. 313 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: You know, when these young men go off the rails, 314 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: and we've had several of them commit all sorts of 315 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: you know, assassinations and school shootings, et cetera. And they 316 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: all seem to fit a similar pattern. So you know, 317 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: what are the websites they're going on. What should parents 318 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: look for? We're all in the dark, and you know, 319 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: I don't think we can expect that the FBI is 320 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: going to be everywhere, but you've got the American public 321 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: all the eyes and ears that should be there able 322 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: to give, you know, give a warning if somebody like it, 323 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 2: Thomas Crooks is sailing under the radar. 324 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, almost seems like there should be a new department 325 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: within the FBI that is just researching these weird threats 326 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: that seems like, I mean, it does generally seem like 327 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: it's young men. I'll just ask you one more thing 328 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: before I let you go. I know we're in a hurry. 329 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: Did it seem odd that his body was they got 330 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: rid of the party as quickly as they did. 331 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, did, And certainly Clay Higgins thought it was really odd. 332 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: Cash Battell addressed that in He's done two interviews in 333 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: the last few days, and he said, would you say 334 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: he said, I think it was Cash. I might have 335 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: been Dan Bongino. Anyway, what they said was they have 336 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: to release the crime scene, and they you know, they 337 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: had to look at some point, they've got to release it, 338 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: and they released it in normal They've got all the 339 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: forensics they needed, and so they needed to wash the 340 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: blood off, you know. So I mean, fair enough, maybe 341 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: that is the case, and but I'm glad that they're 342 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: telling us that. But I don't know why it's taken 343 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: sixteen months to tell us when you know, all the 344 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: conspiracy theories have flowed, and that included the cleansing of 345 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: the roof and the fact that the body Crooks's body 346 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: was cremated a few days later. Again, I think either 347 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: Cash Battel or Dan Borgino's addressed that in just the 348 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: recent days, saying again that they had to release the 349 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: body after the autopsy to the family and they decided 350 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: to cremate it. Fine, I just I just think that 351 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot of questions also about the actual autopsy. 352 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 2: I haven't I haven't actually been able to check this 353 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: out properly yet, but you know, I have been contacted 354 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: by a couple of doctors who find that the autopsy 355 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: results into into Crooks are missing something. So I don't 356 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 2: know why that would be or if that really is 357 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: the case, trying to trying to track that down before 358 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: I report it out. But you know, again into a vacuum, 359 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: all these questions come, and sometimes people, you know, answer 360 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 2: questions and they're completely wrong and it becomes a massive 361 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: conspiracy theory, and I think we should all try to 362 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: avoid that. So maybe there just isn't a mechanism yet, 363 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: and there should be a mechanism to answer these questions. 364 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 2: I know in Australia and in England, there's a thing called, 365 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, a coronial inquest in these kind of deaths 366 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: or these like a Thomas Crook's death or Charlie Kirk's death, 367 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: and that operates in parallel to any law enforcement investigation 368 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: and actually tracks down all the circumstances of the death 369 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: and then puts that out publicly so that people can 370 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: see exactly what happened and that allays fears and prevents 371 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: these crazy conspiracy theories. 372 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: Well, Miranda Devine, we are so blessed to have you 373 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: because you are always chasing it down. And forget about 374 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, he doesn't know what he's talking about. We 375 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: are so thrilled that you are the person that puts 376 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: the facts out there, and I'm so grateful for you 377 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: that you came onto the podcast today. Thank you so much, 378 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: thank you Tudor absolutely, and thank you all for joining 379 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Make sure you join us next time, 380 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: and have a blessed day.