1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: pleasure of sitting down with cornerback Rock you scene today, Rock, 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. I want to start here. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean Rock. I mean, there's no better name than 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Rock for a football player. It doesn't get a Pepe, 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: you know, no shade on Pepe, but rock player is 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. Your given first name is Abdu rah Men. Yeah, 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: I say, I think I think I got closed. And 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: so where did where did Rock come from? Can you 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: tell us the backstory? 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 2: Well, I was I was wrestling. 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: I had a coach, Keith Johnson, great you know, legendary 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 3: high school coach in Georgia. Yeah, but I mean like 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: kind of brass guy, you know. So you know, we 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 3: started wrestling and I came in the first date and 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 3: I beat some of the starters on the team. And 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: after a while he was like, you know, hey, man, 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 3: what's your name? Blah blah blah, you know, and I 19 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 3: was like, he was like, huh man, he started trying 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: to say my name. 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: Was butchering it. He's like, I'm just gonna call you Rock. 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 3: And then like from tenth grade, I mean through college 23 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: and now in the NFL five years in, Like rocket 24 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: is just stuck and it's like more people call me 25 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: rock than actually called men. 26 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, so is it just when you go home? 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Family, family, family, close friends I grew up with. 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: But outside of that, like people that haven't met me 29 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: in the last you know, five or six years, it's 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: just rock for them. 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I would assume you embraced. You're like, 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: this is kind of cool. 33 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, problem with that's cool? 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: Well, you're obviously you come here from a new team. 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: It's just a new start start. And you look at 36 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 4: the secondary talented group. You got Marlo Humphrey on the 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: other side, you got Marcus Williams behind you, Kyle Hamilton. 38 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: What's it like to step in and be part of 39 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: this secondary? 40 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean it feels great, man. 41 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: I mean, coming in, competing with these guys, learning from them, 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: the chemistry we were building, I mean, the way, like 43 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: the work ethic in the room, the attitude in the room, 44 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: the effort every day, like you know, the detailed, the 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: straining to get better. I feel like, you know, everybody's 46 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: going to elevate their games just by playing with each 47 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: other and you know, learning from each other and competing 48 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: every day. 49 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 4: And part of that is also the guys on the 50 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: other side, and the Ravens made some big investments on 51 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 4: the receivers this year. They added you on the defensive side, 52 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: they added some big receivers, say Flowers, Odell, Beckham, Nelson, Aguilar. 53 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 4: How does going against those guys help sharpen your tools 54 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: every single day? 55 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 3: I feel like the number one thing it does is 56 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: build confidence. I mean you're going against a guy like 57 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: Ob you know, Jay Flowers, Nelson, Shot Baby when he 58 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: gets out there. I mean they have you know, pro, 59 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 3: I may can go down the line of really good players, 60 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 3: you know, accomplished players in this league, and you out 61 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: there compete against those guys, you know, winning reps, you know, 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: learning to getting better by the time you get to 63 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: game time. You have like a certain amount of confidence, 64 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: and confidence comes from demonstrated ability. So if I demonstrated 65 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: my ability to myself, I go out there and compete 66 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: with Ob or a Ja or Nelson or Shot or 67 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: Pro or I. 68 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: Mean I can go down the line of all those guys. 69 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: If I demonstrate my ability that I can compete with 70 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: those guys, I feel really good about where I am. 71 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Impressions OBJ and Z Flowers. 72 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: What's your take, Well, uh, ob. 73 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: Is ob they think that they call him the human 74 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: joystick or whatever that yeah, kind of it kind of 75 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: fits them. 76 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 4: It's interesting here you talk about the confidence piece, because 77 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: that is so big for really any player, but I 78 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: think especially for corners, and when you're going up against Odell, Like, 79 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: something that's stood out to me since he got here 80 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: is just all eyes are on him, like every time, 81 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: and so I feel like as a corner, like you know, 82 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: if you're lined up out there on an island like 83 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: a stadium practice or out here, everyone's looking at you 84 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 4: for sure, and they're like and and fans want to 85 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: see him make a big play. 86 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: Like how do what he wants to have? The one hand, 87 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: like like you're you. 88 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: Know that everyone's watching that rep for you, and how 89 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: does that affect your mindset? 90 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: It's just like in the game, you know, you're out 91 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: there on the island, you're in the boundary whatever. 92 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: You know. 93 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: Playing this division, there's really good ex receivers in this division, 94 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Just like the fans in 95 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: the state in our stadium, I wur probably want to 96 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: see the receiver win. Fans in the state didn't want 97 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: to see that receiver win, you know what I mean, Like, 98 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: it's just it prepares you for that, you know what 99 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 3: I mean, for those moments, for the kind of pressure moments, 100 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: like when it's a lot on the line, even though 101 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: it's just out there competing, like that stuff means a 102 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: lot to us, you know what I mean. We're just 103 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: trying to get better. Same thing in the game, you 104 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like it's high pressure, it means something. 105 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 3: It's a lot on the line, you know what I mean, 106 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 3: So it kind of prepares you for that. 107 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 4: It's awesome. 108 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Is it weird when when a wide receiver catches the 109 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: ball in practice and the fans cheer and you're like, 110 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: wait a second, you know I'm on this team too, 111 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: What the heck? 112 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: Man? 113 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: You just know it's like it's an offensive league, you 114 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like everybody everybody loves offense. Man, 115 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: Like the casual fan, like ninety nine percent of the 116 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: fans I may love offense. They once he touchdowns, they 117 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: want to see ob dancing and stuff. So I mean, 118 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised by it at all. 119 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: This is kind of the time of the year where 120 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: defensive players started giving us a hard time. About posting highlights, Like, 121 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: all you're doing is posted the receiver highlights here? Can 122 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: we get some defense highlights here? 123 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: Do you only post the interceptions? And how often is 124 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: It's like you don't really want to post then interception? 125 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: Like does someone want to post the Martha in an interception? 126 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 4: It's it's it's you know, the deck is the deck 127 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: is stacked against you, guys. 128 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: I feel that it's kind of it's kind of what 129 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: sales though, I mean, you know what sales that's the most. 130 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Retweets, Like, so you know how the game works. 131 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: I understand that now. 132 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: I remember when you were coming out in the draft 133 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. I really liked you, Like you reminded 134 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: me kind of a bigger version of Taevon Young. You know, 135 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: another Temple guy, another scrappy like physical dude, you know, 136 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I like this rocket scene guy, 137 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: what do you How do you describe your game? Like 138 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: what do you feel like you bring to the Ravens. 139 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 3: I feel like it's competitive, you know, like detailed, you know, 140 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 3: like a strain to get better every day, you know, 141 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: like a god has focused. You know, a guy that is, 142 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: like you said, scrappy, You know, physical, a guy that 143 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: you know wants to compete and win. You know, that's 144 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: kind of my mentality. It's kind of my game. That's 145 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: how it's been, you know, throughout my time in the league. 146 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it feels like raven that is like 147 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: defines a Raven. What was it? Was it that mentality 148 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: that led you to signing with the Ravens? What was 149 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: it that that landed you? 150 00:05:58,440 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 3: Hear? 151 00:05:58,800 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 152 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: Just heard about the culture here, man, Like the locker 153 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: room it's filled, you know with those kind of guys. 154 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: God's competitive hungry, you know, guys that will fight and 155 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: claw and you know, and compete to win. And then 156 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: I mean the players here. I mean, I don't think 157 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: there's a better player in the lead than Lamar Jackson, 158 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Then you got I mean, 159 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: like you said, all the investments on the offense at 160 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: the receiver position, I mean, then you got the defense. 161 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 3: I mean, oh my god, at all three levels, the 162 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 3: D line, the linebackers, and then in the secondary, I 163 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: mean like it's star studded, you know, really accomplished players 164 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: and players that are just just like hitting their stride 165 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 3: and they're gonna be like really really good players. 166 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: For a long time. 167 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: So I'm excited for I'm excited for the year, Excited 168 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 3: to be here competing and learn with these guys, and 169 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: excited to go to war with and win a lot 170 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 3: of games. 171 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 4: So, ruck, what are the last couple of years been 172 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 4: like for you? You come into the NFL, you step 173 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 4: in and you're playing well, you're starting, and then you 174 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: end up getting traded to the Raiders. It's part of 175 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: the unique and way trade. Obviously you spend some time 176 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: here too, And so what was how did you kind 177 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: of process all that? You go from one team to 178 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 4: the next and you learn about the business side. Sure, 179 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: you probably feel like you feel like I'm kind of 180 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: settled in here, like I'm one of the I'm one 181 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 4: of the guys. Then all of a sudden You're not. 182 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: You know, like, what was that like? 183 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: Honestly I kind of saw it coming just because. Okay, 184 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: So my first year of the league, I had decent 185 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: rookie year. I was on a vague team. I played, 186 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 3: I started a lot of games, played pretty well. Second 187 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: year I had some struggles. Third year again I turned 188 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: a corner, you know, started games played well, you know, 189 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: like and then after that third year, I kind of realized. 190 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: I looked at the locker room and I saw like 191 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: that for this team to compete, we need certain pieces. 192 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 3: We needed an edge rusher, we need a quarterback, we 193 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: needed things like the serious pieces. And I was looking 194 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: at Okay, like, who's young, you know, ascending? 195 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: Playing pretty well? Second you seriously I was, I was 196 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: prom candidate. 197 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: I told my mom, told my little brother, uh, I 198 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: told my sister. I told like a lot of my 199 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: family that like I'm probably gonna get traded. 200 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, And they were like, wow, you had to 201 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: your best season, Why would you get traded. I was like, 202 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: that's why. 203 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: So when Chris called me and told me I got traded, 204 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: you know, I wasn't surprised at all. I was kind 205 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: of more like relief because I was like I knew 206 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: this was coming, not finally happened, you know what I mean. 207 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: And then going to Vegas, I mean, it was a 208 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: good experience. I felt like I got It was a 209 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: good experience because it had me. It forced me to grow, 210 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: you know, like get out of that comfortability of being 211 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: an indie team that drafted me, been there three years, 212 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: go somewhere new, learn a new system, being around new coaches, 213 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 3: a new culture, you know what I mean, And I 214 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: feel like it prepared me for free agency, you know 215 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, like having to not be worried about 216 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: all that. But it's the only person I've ever been. 217 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: Was it Like other places, it's like you adapt to whatever, 218 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you went from two 219 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 3: totally different cultures, two totally different systems, two totally different 220 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: head coaches. 221 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: I mean, two totally different locker rooms. 222 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 3: If I can go from any locker room to the 223 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 3: Vegas locker room, I can go to any locker room. 224 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 2: That's how I felt, you know, so it really it 225 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: prepared me. 226 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: Really why was it? Was it just that? 227 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 4: Was it the city that was part of it? Or 228 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 4: was it the guys? Like what made the locker room 229 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 4: so different? 230 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: The culture that are just different? 231 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: Man Like Indie is like really really blue collar, you know, 232 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: like a lot like everybody's the same. In India, It's 233 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: like everybody's the whole locker room was the same. Everybody's 234 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: the same kind of guys, you know what I mean. 235 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 3: If you're different, you're like kind of an outlier. But 236 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: in Vegas, it's like every locker is a different guy. 237 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 3: You know, this got from here, this background, that background. 238 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: You know, I'm just kind of loud, quiet, you know, 239 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: enthusiastic to hisself, you know, like just it's different. 240 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: But in Indie it was everybody was one way. 241 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 3: It had a mold for players and mentalities that they like, 242 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: and that's that's what it is there. The Ravens like, 243 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: it's I mean, you might get you know, you might 244 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: get a blue collar guy, you might get a guy 245 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 3: from private school, you might get a god inner city 246 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's just just like different kind of guys, 247 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, tough guys. This is really 248 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 3: a different kind of locker room. And then like the 249 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: biggest difference, I feel like it was the head coach, 250 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: you know, Frank w Reich, Fir Josh mc daimes are 251 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 3: like complete opposites and people, you know what I mean, 252 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: It's very. 253 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: Different kind of people. 254 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: Not good and good, not good at bad either way, 255 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: but just different kind of people and the way they 256 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: run things is just totally different. 257 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: So then you come here to Baltimore and like, what 258 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: is your impression when you look at the locker room 259 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 4: here and you've been to these different places and different cities, 260 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: and you're kind of assessing. All right, how's this going 261 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: to stack up? What are these guys going to be? 262 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: Like I've heard about Raven's culture played like a raven. 263 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 4: So what do you think of the atmosphere here? 264 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: I feel like it's a great atmosphere first of all. 265 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: I mean I think coach Harve's you know, is like 266 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 3: a good leader, you know, and he's a leader of men. 267 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: You know, people respect him and listen to what he 268 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: has to say. And the locker room it is like 269 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: it's a mix between those two. You got some blue 270 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 3: collar guys, got some guys that are a little bit different, 271 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: you know, you got some variety of. 272 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: Guys what you need. 273 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 3: You need energy. You got some guys who are quiet, 274 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 3: you know. You got guys who are like super super leaders. 275 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: And you got guys who are good leaders but are 276 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: willing to follow, you know. Like it's like a good, 277 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: great mixture in this locker room here. It's interesting. 278 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, Marcus Peters was in your position, should be 279 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: for you, and you strike me as a different kind 280 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: of energy than markets. Yeah, what do teammates tell you 281 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: about Marcus? Is there any kind of thing in your 282 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: head about like knowing that's the guy I'm replacing and 283 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: up in Vegas. 284 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: Crazy, crazy, but market. I mean, I've like Washington played 285 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 3: for a long time, really good player. I mean, probably 286 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: one of the best corners in our era, you know 287 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: at taking the ball away great and turnovers, whether there's 288 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: force fumbles or interceptions. I mean, I mean, he's he's different. 289 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 3: I got a lot of respect for him as a player. 290 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: But coming here, man, they talk about him, he's like 291 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: he was a guy who was enthusiastic, a lot of energy, 292 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like really like an intelligent 293 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: football player, you know what I mean, a guy that 294 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: was a leader and kind of brought guys with him, 295 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: you know, less like I'm more I'm a little bit 296 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 3: more quiet in some some situations, I speak up and 297 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: talk when I need to, But in some situations I'm 298 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: more like like reserved him. 299 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: He's not. 300 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: You don't say I've seen that You're not gonna go 301 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: on the Titans logo. 302 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 4: It's it is funny that you say, like you're you're 303 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: kind of quiet. Remember when first speeding you and you know, 304 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: you know You're I'm kind of reserved the times, but 305 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 4: like on the field, I feel like you talk more 306 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 4: than I expected you to. 307 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, not on the field because you have to 308 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: man playing a corner because you know, like calls come 309 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 3: into the middle of the defense out there on the island, 310 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: you got to make sure you communicating like hey, are 311 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: we're on the same page, because you know, things get 312 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: lost in translations. You say, so, like it's really important 313 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: for me to be yelling and making sure. And like 314 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: another thing about our defense is like you know, it 315 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: requires our corners to communicate things, you know what I mean. 316 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: So it's it's it kind of brings that out of me. 317 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: Like like like I said before, like I'll speak when 318 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: I need to, you know me, you know, or communicate 319 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: when I have to. But more so, I'm a reserved, 320 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: like my personality is reserved personality, especially outside of football. 321 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 3: Inside doing you know, it's it's kind of hard. It's no, 322 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 3: it's something casual or reserved about playing football. But outside 323 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: of football, I have like a reserved, quiet personality. 324 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: You're talking about Vegas. I mean, you're off to a 325 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: good start in Vegas. You're playing really well. 326 00:12:59,559 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: Man. 327 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: You suffered the knee and which which obviously is really hard. 328 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: What what was it like for you to go through that? 329 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: How did that change you as a player as a man, 330 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: and then to be kind of out on the free 331 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: agent market, you know, not knowing what's next. Was that 332 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: a challenging process? 333 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, like I was telling somebody, 334 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 3: somebody asked me about Vegas last year. I felt like 335 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: it was like a year of growth for me. Like personally, 336 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: I grew as a player, as a person, as human being, 337 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: you know, as a son, as a I just felt. 338 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: Like I grew in a lot of different ways. 339 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: You know, my faith kind of was tested, you know, 340 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 3: because you sit there first, you know, seven eight games, 341 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: I'm playing like kind of lights out, you know, in 342 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: my in my own I felt like I was playing 343 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 3: lights out, and then you suffered. I suffered the injury. 344 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 3: I try to battle back, but whatever whatever end up 345 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: on inj your reserve. And then so kind of like 346 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: from the highs to kind of the lows of being 347 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: an injury reserve first and season injury reserve, and then 348 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: going to free agency not knowing what to expect. But 349 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: you know, I was telling my agent, man, I was 350 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: telling him from the beginning, I was like, bro, I 351 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: want the right situation. I'm being patient, man, like, whatever 352 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: God has for me, it'll be for. 353 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: Me, like I'm not worried about it. And you can. 354 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: I mean, you can ask anybody that was close to 355 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: me if you were asking me, like what is you 356 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: gonna do? Are you gonna do this? Are you gonna 357 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: do that? Whatever God got for me? 358 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I'll be ready, you know, 359 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 3: whenever I get that call or whenever my you know, 360 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: my number is called. But until then, like I'm just 361 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: hand of my business on my end. I wasn't you know, 362 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: frantic or losing my mind at all. 363 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: You talk about your faith and uh, you know it's 364 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: your Muslim and I'm just curious how that you know, 365 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: faith has shaped you clearly as you went through this process. 366 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: It's something that you leaned on yea and ultimately landed 367 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: you here. I'm just curious how that faith has shaped 368 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: who you are as a man. 369 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like like through and through man, 370 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: like through my DNA. Like I feel like every decision 371 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: I make or you know, all my interactions, like everything 372 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: I do, because it's it's shaped by and by religion 373 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: just because like being a Muslim is not so much 374 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: like a religion war so a way of life. Just 375 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: think about like the first thing you do you wake 376 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: up as you clean yourself and you pray. 377 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. One of the last things 378 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: you do before you go to sleep is you clean 379 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: yourself and you pray. You know what I mean. 380 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: Throughout the day, have to stop whatever you're doing, make 381 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 3: sure you're going pray, you know, like you always constantly learn. 382 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: And then like the interactions with people and stuff is 383 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: like every time I meet a person, always want to 384 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: make a good impression because that's it might be the 385 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: only impression they have of meeting a Muslim, you know 386 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: what I mean, They might that are besides what they 387 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: see on TV, you know what I mean. So I'm 388 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: always trying to make a good impression. That's what we 389 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: should be as Muslims. You know, Like I feel very 390 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: about that. You know. A nothing I love about Baltimore 391 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: is so many Muslims here. I mean, it's like a 392 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: huge Muslim community, a lot of you know, a lot 393 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: of different moths that I you know, attend and stuff. 394 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: So I really I really enjoyed. 395 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: I would imagine growing up in Georgia where you grew 396 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: up there weren't wasn't a large Muslim community. 397 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: Or well it was only in certain spots. Though only 398 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: in certain spots. Spots, man like the Georgia as a state, 399 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: not a large you know Muslim canmmunity. But the thing 400 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: I love about the northeast of the United States, I 401 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: mean it's a melting pot for everybody, right, So many 402 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: different cultures here. You can find, you know, any any 403 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: kind of culture religion here. 404 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: Do you have a spot here in the facilia you 405 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: go and pray during the day, ye. 406 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: I do. I do. 407 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: Either I use the quiet room, you know, I praying 408 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: there some time, or doctor Tricia, she lets meet her office, 409 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 3: I go in there and prayer. 410 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: So that's awesome, That's very cool. So I guess just 411 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: take us through your childhood a little bit. What was 412 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: it like in your background growing up in Georgia. 413 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: So I grew up on the East side of Atlanta, 414 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: single mom, five brothers and sisters. I was like, I 415 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: was the oldest boy. So I was kind of always 416 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: the man at the house, you know, challenging, you. 417 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 2: Know, growing up. I mean I enjoyed it. 418 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: Looking back on it, you know, I see the challenges 419 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: we had, But like while you're you know, living it, 420 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: I didn't see the challenges I mean, I was just 421 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: a happy kid that loved playing and learning and being 422 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: around my siblings stuff like that. You know, I was 423 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: homeschooled up until eleventh grade. I'm sorry, tenth grade. I started. 424 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: My first introduction to sports was like in seventh grade, 425 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: I started wrestling. 426 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 427 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: I ended up being a pretty good wrestler. I ended 428 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: up winning two state titles in high school. I got 429 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: a couple of scholarship offers, and that. 430 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 4: You kind of downplayed it, like I was okay, I was. 431 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 2: Decent want. 432 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 4: Hips. 433 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: I was. I wasn't a couple of scholies A couple 434 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: of couple remember that being for your draft profile. There 435 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: was a lot of buzz about that. Coaches love like wrestlers, 436 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: accomplige wrestlers. I think they love the mentality. 437 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, because wrestling is like one on one sport and 438 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: then playing court sometimes you know it's a team sport. 439 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes you on that I you had had that that 440 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: that confidence to be able to go out there and 441 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: trust yourself. 442 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: One on one. 443 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: I find something I really learned from wrestling, man, and 444 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: I took them with me into football. I started playing 445 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: football in the eleventh grade. I ended up getting a 446 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 3: couple of scholarship offers, not not not really much. But 447 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 3: I went to committed to Presbyterian College in South Carolina, 448 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: played there for three years. Then I transferre up to 449 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: Temple University in Philadelphia, played there. 450 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: My senior year, end up being drafted and the rest 451 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: is history. 452 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, So when you're you're good Presbyterian, like, are you 453 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: thinking at that point of NFL's I'm going to the 454 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: NFL one day. 455 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, And this is like I 456 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 3: didn't say. I was like because like I said, I'm 457 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: not like a one thing I think about, Like you know, 458 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: your goals and your aspirations and stuff. A lot of 459 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: times it better just keeps yourself because people will shoot 460 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: them down and tell you like like Tony, people told 461 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: me all the time, like why are you working so hard? 462 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: Brother, Like you're a Presbyterian. You're not going anywhere, you know. 463 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 4: What I mean. 464 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: But I would just like whatever whatever, But I wouldn't 465 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: like put that on blast like I'm going to the NFL. 466 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 3: Like it was just I do it in my head 467 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: because I came on my visit. I was telling the 468 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: strength Colde. I said, do y'all do y'all do like 469 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: combine prep like do y'all you know, scout how to around 470 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: forties and five ten fives. 471 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: Looked at me like huh. 472 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, cause like in twenty nineteen go 473 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: to the draft, he's looking at me like like okay, yeah, 474 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: I kind of not like it was just like as 475 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: an eighteen year old kid coming in there, you haven't 476 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: done anything. They look at you like big dreams, you 477 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: got Conrad, you know what, I'm sure, But I was. 478 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: I was dead serious about it. And you can ask 479 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: anybody that's known me man like I worked for that, 480 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: Like you know, I prayed for it, and I worked 481 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: for it like constantly. It was never like I never 482 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: wavered in that. It just worked hard and hard and 483 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: it just kept pushing. Thankfully, God blessed me to you know, 484 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 3: make it. 485 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: To the NFL. 486 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: I read a story about you that said, when you 487 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: were in high school, you would have your coach like 488 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: turn on the car like the football field. 489 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 2: A nice serious story, bro like that. 490 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: That kind of like I look back up that, bro, 491 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 3: because we were practice, you know, and then like you know, 492 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: high school practice is not so much learning and stuff, 493 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: it's more just egge rift of the game. After practice man, 494 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,239 Speaker 3: I would just stay out there. My mom she got 495 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 3: off work kind of late, you know, maybe eight or nine. 496 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: She wouldn't get me to maybe like nine o'clock. And 497 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 3: you know, like and coming to December and stuff, the 498 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: days get shorter, so it's dark outside now. 499 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: So I would do it all year. 500 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: But then, like you know, once the day started getting shorter, 501 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: you know, I would just be out there sometimes I'll 502 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: be out there to be kind of dark almost. And 503 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: Coach Rollerson, man, he he would he saw me doing that. 504 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 2: One day. 505 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 3: He just stayed ever since day and every day after 506 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 3: probably he was just stay and leave his lights on 507 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 3: and let me work until my mom came and got me. Man. 508 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: It was like that was crazy, bro. 509 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: Where's that work ethic come from? For you to grind 510 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: like that? 511 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: I think both my dad and my mom. Man, Like 512 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: see my dad work even though like I saw him 513 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 3: he was like my parents were together when I was young. 514 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: They did divorce me like six or so, but like 515 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: when I was young, my dad took me to work 516 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 3: with me own like a slaughter house or like a 517 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: meat plan or whatever. I saw, like the hours he worked, 518 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 3: how hard he worked, man like, day in day out, 519 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: like he was like, he's probably the hardest work I've 520 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: ever been around. And then you know, growing up seeing 521 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: my mom like work hard, you know, like never complain, 522 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: never ask for a handout, just put her head down 523 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: and work, you know. So I could see my dad 524 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 3: in his older years or him you know, working his profession, 525 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: and then my mom doing the same, like you know, 526 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: it was only right that I do the same, you know, 527 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 3: especially as a younger person, you know what I mean, 528 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: like and to take care of them as they took 529 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: care of me, you know what I mean. 530 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 4: So you said you were the oldest of five, I 531 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 4: was the older son son, but of six six okay, 532 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: of six okay? And so as you are, you know, 533 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 4: working and work for these scholarship offers, like I gotta 534 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 4: believe that you are. You're hopeful, you know, to your 535 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 4: point about like I knew I was going to go 536 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: to the pros, but like you're you're hopeful. But that 537 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 4: work ethic like has to kind of shape everything that 538 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 4: you do. And just during that time when you're in 539 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: high school, as you're working in whether it's in wrestling 540 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,719 Speaker 4: or football, how did that work ethic, I don't know 541 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: materialize And I guess whether it's watching them or whatever 542 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: it is. 543 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, in a lot of ways, 544 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: I feel like it translated over to like me, like 545 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 3: working actual jobs. 546 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: In high school, always had a job, and then what was. 547 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: Your first job. 548 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 2: My first job was working with a long cair company. 549 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: Man, that's hard work, that outdoor time right there. 550 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: But then when I went to college, I ended up 551 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: like I had like in the summertime, I worked like 552 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 3: three jobs man bro. Yeah, because you know we were like, 553 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 3: this wasn't. 554 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: N IL money, Yeah a little different. 555 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a Presbyteria in college, no rent checks, nothing, 556 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: so you know, I needed that to you know, help 557 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 3: my mom and then also take care of myself. But 558 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: I worked at UPS, i worked at LOWS, and I 559 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: also was a certified nursing assistant. 560 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I did a little bit of everything. 561 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did at everything, but it's awesome. I feel like, 562 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: you know, like I always had good grades, I worked 563 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: hard in the classroom, yeah, you know. 564 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: And then like even when I was in college, like 565 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 3: I was a premid bio major my first three years 566 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: of college knowing like okay, like I'm working for the NFL. 567 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: It doesn't happen I have to have like a backup 568 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: plan to still be able to, you know, take care 569 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: of my family, help myself, you know, heavy course. 570 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: But I ended up. My sad thing is my transfer. 571 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: I lost I think twenty seven of my biology credits, 572 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: so I had to change my majors psychology of the Temple. 573 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 3: But graduate, graduating from Temple with a psychology degree, got you? 574 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: Gotcha? 575 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: Well? 576 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: I think that the incredible part of your story in 577 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: part is you know, you go from Presbyterian to Temple, right, 578 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: and then you have one year there and then you're 579 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: the thirty fourth overall pick, right, And I think I 580 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: read that you said that when you went from Presbyterian 581 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: to Temple you went with like twenty dollars in your pocket, 582 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: like like it was not and then to go to 583 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: the thirty fourth pick and you're getting a signing bonus 584 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I mean talk about a massive 585 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: life change in eight months. I mean incredible. 586 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: And that's that's like a real story. Man. 587 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: I really I drove up the Temple with I remember 588 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: getting there, right, and I was I drove it simple 589 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: like on the way, you know, you're buying gas and 590 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 3: stuff whatever. Man, I was like, sold, I had nothing, man, 591 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 3: and the guy named Ranil Renel Williams. He was like 592 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 3: a graduate assistant. He's a he's a coach for the 593 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: for the Eagles. Now, really good dude, man. He took 594 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 3: me a Walmart and like he bought me a lamp, 595 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: you know, like just bought me a couple of things 596 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: I needed. 597 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: You know. 598 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: It kind of looked out for me my whole time. 599 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: Really a templately looked out for me. Man, A really 600 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: really good dude out at dude, you know everything. But 601 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 3: he just you know, he looked out for me. But 602 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 3: I really like I really drove up there with twenty. 603 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 3: I looked back on him like, wow, that's crazy. Yeah, 604 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: Like let's talk about like a leap of faith. Yeah, 605 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: pay dollars in your pockets in Philadelphia. 606 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 2: Seriously, bro, I look back on it like it's no way, man. 607 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: But I really did that. That's crazy. 608 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: That's incredible. 609 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: And did you, like, did it register to you at 610 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 4: that time, like this is crazy or did you not 611 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 4: think you just were going because this is the opportunity, 612 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 4: Like what was your mindset of that time? 613 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 3: I was just going because of the opportunity. I don't 614 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: even think twice about it. Man like it was like 615 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 3: I was, like. 616 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: It's now or never, like I have I feel like 617 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: I had. 618 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: To do that, you know what I mean, Like it 619 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: was no other options, Like that's that's kind of how 620 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 3: I am. Like I look at a goal, I just 621 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: go for the goal, like I do whatever it takes 622 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: to to reach that. 623 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 624 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: I have like put the blinders on. I don't hear, 625 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: don't see any distraction, anything going around. It's just just 626 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 3: that goal. 627 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: And that's kind of how that situation played off. 628 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: So then when you're the thirty fourth pick and you 629 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: get a signing bonus and a big payday, like, how 630 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: does your life change? 631 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: Well, I was in My life didn't change so much, ma'am. 632 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: I feel like my family's life changed, you know what 633 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: I mean. My mom I retired, my mom, you know, 634 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 3: take care of her, take care of my family memberge 635 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 3: and stuff with myself. 636 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: I still live in a pretty regular life, you know 637 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: what I mean. 638 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: I live in a regular house, drive a regular car, 639 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: you know, wear regular clothes. 640 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: I live a pretty regular life. 641 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: It's just you know, throughout the week I practiced and 642 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: on Sundays play football. But outside of that, like I 643 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: mean I still be going. I still go to the 644 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: mosque and pray and hang out with the people. And 645 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I just my life didn't change as much, 646 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 3: you know what. I maybe, like the way people looked 647 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 3: at me and viewed me changed, but like my how 648 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 3: I viewed myself and how I carried myself, it didn't 649 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 3: really change. 650 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious, like, when you've had the success that you've had, 651 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: you know, not only being drafted thirty fourth, but you 652 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: know now the career you've had in the NFL since, 653 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: how do you still tap back into that grinder mentality 654 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: of practicing on you know, your coach's car lights on 655 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: the field in the darkness. 656 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: I feel like it's just in me, man, I feel 657 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: like it's in my DNA just to be that kind 658 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: of way because I know, like just how you know, 659 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 3: God blessed me with it, He can take it back 660 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: from me, you know what I mean. So like me 661 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 3: working hard and doing right is like you know, me 662 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: showing my appreciation for what God's blessed me with, you 663 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So like, you know, if if 664 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: I were to just almost be a terrible person, that's 665 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 3: like that would be wrong, you know, because God blessed 666 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 3: me with such a great blessing, and then likewise God 667 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: gave me this opportunity, and I just I'm lazy. I 668 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 3: don't work hard, I don't take it serious. That's again, 669 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: that's that would be wrong, you know what I mean. 670 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: So I feel like that's just like part of my DNA, 671 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: just to be that that way, you know what I mean. 672 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 4: So that's one for me. Rock, You goals are clearly 673 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: something that are on your mind. You know you talked 674 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: about having that laser focus. Do you have any goals 675 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: you want to share. 676 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: With us for what you see, I'll tell all the 677 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: team goals. 678 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: You know. You don't want to win, you know, I 679 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: want to win. I want to be a product great secondary. 680 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: You know. I want to I want to dominate. 681 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: You know. I want to talk. 682 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: I want That's all I. 683 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 4: Got for you. 684 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: That's fair. That's as much as you're getting fair. I understand. Well, Ron, 685 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: we're really excited about it, man, You're you're looking grand 686 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: on the practice field. Excited to see you play this year. 687 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: Man, appreciately, thank you for coming on. 688 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: Appreciate it Man, Well big thanks to Rock your scene 689 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: for stopping by the seat. 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That's a pretty big role, very 705 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: big role. 706 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: And I think that, you know, hopefully Ravens fans got 707 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 4: a chance to just know who he is a little 708 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 4: bit more. I thought it was interesting just to learn 709 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: his mentality, his make up, his faith, all of that. 710 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: See why the Ravens are interested in signing him. I mean, 711 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: this dude screams raven right. I mean just like a worker, grinder, physical, tough, 712 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: you know, the mental mental side of it. Just like 713 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: you see why why they were so interested in bringing 714 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: Rocky Scene in here. 715 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and to get him for you know when they did, 716 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: like he this is a guy who was at ascending player. 717 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 4: Then he gets traded and then hurt right, and then 718 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 4: all of a sudden he's just available and it's kind 719 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 4: of under the radar a little bit. But I think 720 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 4: that like this is going to be a move that 721 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 4: when we look back on it at the end of 722 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 4: the season, you're like, man, how did the Ravens get 723 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: him for such a good deal? Like that was a 724 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: home run, home run acquisition. And I think the early 725 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: returns have been very positive. I like what I've seen 726 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 4: from him. He practices hard, He's high energy on the field. 727 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: I just I just think it's going to be a really, 728 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 4: really good addition to this defense. 729 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. So you have some fan questions, yes. 730 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 4: As always, you can email us at the lounge at 731 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 4: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Got some fan questions A 732 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 4: couple different people who have been here at training camp, 733 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: which if you're here at training camp. Always enjoy listeners 734 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: Nick and Nick here. Nick said hello, Yes, I said, 735 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: it was super nice to meet both of you. Actually 736 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 4: taking time. So he is his question is who's going 737 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,959 Speaker 4: to lead the Ravens and touchdown catches catches this season? 738 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: This is tough. We've debated, like we've said this before 739 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: in past years where we've talked like, you know, catches, receptions, yours. 740 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 4: You've just gone the clean sweep for Mark Andrews. I 741 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: don't know that I'm going to go clean sweep this year. 742 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: You know, I might go Odell. Touchdown catches. I think 743 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: if there's one category where Mark could be usurped, that 744 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: one will be the one I would point to. 745 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: You think that catches over yards? You think you think 746 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: Mark still the. 747 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: Later yards, still might be the leader in yards? 748 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 749 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 4: Interesting, Yeah, I think it's I think it's between Odell 750 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: and Mark. Yeah, that would those would be the two 751 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: guys at the top of my list. I'm gonna go Mark, 752 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 4: but I could, like it would not shock me at 753 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 4: all if you if the season ends and Odell has 754 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: eight touchdowns like that, I could see that being the case. 755 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 4: And actually during the stadium practice, the live show. 756 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: We talked a. 757 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 4: Little bit about Odell's ability in the red zone. He 758 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: had the touchdown red zone target. He also had another 759 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: one where he made a great kind of extended catch 760 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 4: caught about the five yard line. I just think that 761 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: he's he's shifty, he's got great hands, of course, but 762 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: he's got like a feel and that shiftiness which is 763 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,239 Speaker 4: going to pay dividends around the red zone. I mean, 764 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 4: that's really like when he was at the Rams, that's 765 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 4: where he was making a huge impact. 766 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well really, I mean there's there's no denying the 767 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: fact that the Ravens have to make pretty big strides 768 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: in the red zone as compared to last year. Yeah, 769 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: and I really like the assortment of weapons that they 770 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: have generally speaking, but particularly when you really look at 771 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: how good are they going to be in the red zone? 772 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 4: Right? 773 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: And I really like Odell for the reasons you're saying, 774 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: just that that fuel for the game getting open, making 775 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: clutch plays. I mean, dudes made a lot of clutch 776 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: plays in his career, totally big. As we were talking, 777 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: uh this circumference to land comforts of race Catus, that 778 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: was a joke. I remember his big catcher radius, you know, 779 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: you can throw it high to him, you can throw 780 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: it anywhere. 781 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, right. 782 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: And then I also like Zay in that he's so 783 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: quick and to get separation in tight spaces. I think 784 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: that he's going to be really good in that way. 785 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: And then Nelson Aguilore, I mean we saw him elevate 786 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: in practice on Monday and go up really climb the 787 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: ladder on Brandon Stevens and catch one. And the Ravens 788 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: have you know, Ravens fans, I feel like have been 789 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: talking for so long about we need that big bodied 790 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,719 Speaker 1: receiver to go up there and win jump balls and 791 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: be that red zone guy. Nelson Aglore isn't like the 792 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: biggest body guy. He's got some height to him, but 793 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: he can elevate. 794 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 4: I'm always I've always felt like that's a bit of 795 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 4: a misnomer that like you need the just the jump 796 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 4: ball guy, Like of sure, if you can have all 797 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: of the tools, like there was a reason that Julio 798 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: Jones was one of the best receivers in the game 799 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 4: throughout his career. 800 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: Or aj Green, like sure, sure you got Randy Moss 801 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: throne fades all day. 802 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's great. But like uh, Antonio Brown was 803 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 4: pretty darn good in the red zone. And he's not 804 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: a big guy. Odub Beckham and his career has been 805 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 4: excellent in the red zone. Not a huge guy. So like, 806 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: I think that the ability to get open, having a 807 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 4: feel for just what the moves to make and how 808 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: to set up defensive players, and then the ability to 809 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: make a catch in traffic. I think that is what 810 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 4: really makes a good red zone player. 811 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, and shout out to Nick. Nice to meet you, 812 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: great farmer. Yeah, his backs are great farmer. Yes. Remember 813 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: when so he and Marlon have a little bit of 814 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: a relationship. Yeah, humphrey. 815 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: Huh. 816 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: And do you remember last year when like Marlin like 817 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: sent out a message to the whole company. It was like, 818 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: I have a million grapes and either in the cafeteria, 819 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: come down anybody who wants to take some grapes, So 820 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: come down here and get him. And of course I sprinted. 821 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: I took a ton of grapes home. Yeah, my kids 822 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: ate grapes for three weeks long. It was all thanks 823 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: to Nick. Yeah, Nick sent him a bunch of great 824 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: I have too many grapes on bringing him in. 825 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 4: Yeah they were great grapes. 826 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so thank you. Nick, great to meet you, Thank you. 827 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: And all right, here's another question. This one was from 828 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 4: Aris says, Hey, guys, is Aris a long time says, 829 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: I have email, but I haven't stopped listening. Given that 830 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 4: there's still some uncertainty in terms of the health status 831 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 4: of current running backs, in the state of the running 832 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 4: back market overall, do you think that there's any chance 833 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 4: or doesn't make sense for the Ravens to bring in 834 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: Zeke Elliott on a one year prove it kind of deal. 835 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: Well, they already made this kind of edition with Melvin Gordon, right, 836 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: So no, I don't think they're going to sign another 837 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: running back. I mean, right now, they're really full at 838 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: running back. I mean we all of course assume at 839 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: some point JK is going to start practicing here during 840 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: training camp is the assumption, Gus Edwards, Melvin Gordon, Justice Hill, 841 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: who they just resigned this offseason, and then you have 842 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: a pretty talented undrafted rookie and Keaton Mitchell. So you 843 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: know that's five. Yeah, great, there already And so no, 844 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to bring in another veteran. 845 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: That was really the Melvin Gordon thing. 846 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 4: I think the only way it happens is if all 847 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 4: of a sudden you get start to get injuries or 848 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 4: something like that. But I don't see it. I don't 849 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 4: see that being the move. I agree. I think Melvin 850 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 4: Gordon was the veteran free agent acquisition. Yeah, and that's 851 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 4: why I think it's gonna play out. All right, One 852 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 4: more question here. As always, you can email us at 853 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 4: the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. I got 854 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 4: the chance to come out there to the Castle and 855 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 4: be in attendance for training camp practice. Whether it was 856 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 4: insanely hot and humid. Last week it was insanely hot 857 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: and human. Thankfully this week they've turned down the temple. 858 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: It was very nice. 859 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 4: It's been very nice. So I liked what Edc and 860 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: Scotts have put into place on both sides of the ball. 861 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 4: If everyone stays healthy this year, it could be a 862 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 4: size them up year for the team. I think we'll 863 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 4: add a few more pieces before the start of the season. 864 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 4: But I loved what I saw during the installation process 865 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 4: of camp. This team is only going to get better. 866 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 4: This is from pretty deep, so not a question, but 867 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: just a very optimistic email. And I look, I like, 868 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 4: I know it's easy to say we're drinking the purple 869 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 4: cool a. But I think that, like the optimism is 870 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 4: real around the team. I think I feel out around town. 871 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 4: I think you saw that, you know, strong attendance to 872 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 4: the stadium practice, and it's been high energy out here 873 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 4: every day. And I think that that optimism is justified. 874 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. I mean I wrote this 875 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago that I think this is the 876 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: most talented roster the Ravens have had in quite some time. 877 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: And you would compare it against twenty nineteen. Is the 878 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: natural one fourteen to two, pretty dark good team? Yeah, right, 879 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: and you had multiple I mean, the offensive line was stacked, 880 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: you had Ronnie Orlando Marshall all went to the Pro Bowl. Yeah, 881 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: and so but like you look at the weapons outside 882 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: in particular, drastically better when compared to that team. I mean, 883 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: on defense, you have a lot of studs at every level, 884 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: and I think, like Rock was kind of saying, there's 885 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: also this good mixture of young players who are kind 886 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: of on the verge of breakouts, right, like like at 887 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: Justin Mattebek, Broaderck Washington, guys who have had good years, 888 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: But like, man, are we gonna be looking back in 889 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: four years whatever next off season, could these be some 890 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: of the highest biggest contracts given out this I mean 891 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: rock could rock young ascending player who now coming off 892 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: the injury is kind of like his star isn't as 893 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: bright as it was two years ago because of the 894 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: injury and whatnot. But like, yeah, another good example of 895 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: a young player who's really on the up right. So, 896 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: like I was saying, Matta b Kay broaducka Washing Patrick Queen, 897 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean entering a big year four where he could 898 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: just explode, uh, Kyle Hamilton on the back end, the 899 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: pass rushers David Ajabo uh and and Adoway. So like defensively, 900 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: I think especially you look at it and you're like, man, like, 901 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: if some of these guys boom, not all of them 902 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 1: are probably gonna just boom, but if most of them do, 903 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: what's this defense? This defense could be really nasty additions 904 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: to just the ro Quan's you know, the Marcus Williams is. 905 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: You already know what they are, right like you have 906 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: the Michael Pierce in the front. You know, like you 907 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: know what those guys are. But if some of these 908 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: other young ascending pieces really blossom like special unit, and 909 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: then you flip to the offense side. Tyer Linderbaum, same 910 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: kind of thing, right, you have some young pieces of flowers. 911 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: What if he goes off this year, certainly possible. 912 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 4: JK. 913 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: Dobbins young player who could completely go off, you know, 914 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely you know, go down the list like it's 915 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: not You have some really good star power veterans, but 916 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: you also have this next tier of young players in 917 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: their upper twenties, you know, who are like on the verge. Yeah, 918 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: and so it makes me really think that this roster 919 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: could be the best in a long time. 920 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. I also think and it's hard to put an 921 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 4: exact measurement on this, but I think it's a hungry 922 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 4: team for different reasons. Like I think that Lamar is 923 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 4: still seeking that super Bowl in that playoff success that 924 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 4: is alluded him in his career, and like he has 925 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 4: talking about that, you know. I think, as we said, 926 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 4: the contract is. 927 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: Done and so it just seems like he's in a 928 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: good place. 929 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: Yep, totally. I think Odell Beckham coming back, like you know, 930 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 4: coming back from the injury, he's got questions, you know, 931 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 4: the running backs, and if every running back in the 932 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 4: league has questions these days, like something to prove, you know, 933 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 4: Rock he as we talked to him, like he's got 934 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: something to prove. So I just think that there's a 935 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 4: there's individual feelings of something to prove, and there's also 936 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 4: this hunger that the team has. You know, last year 937 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 4: ending the way it did, where you're so close and. 938 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: Knowing you have a good team, but then Lamar gets 939 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 1: hurt and you fall short. You should have beaten the Bengals, 940 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:39,720 Speaker 1: but you didn't. 941 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 2: Right. 942 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 4: I just think that, like there's just this there's this 943 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 4: hunger that exists on this team, and I think that's 944 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 4: going to serve them. 945 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, I mean I'm pulped. When when do 946 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: we start playing games here? 947 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 3: Right? Well? 948 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 4: Well, I mean pre preseason is right around the corner. Yeah, man, 949 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 4: then obviously you know it's going to be here before 950 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 4: we know it's. 951 00:38:59,640 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: Preseason. 952 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 4: The streak so emails of the lounge at Ravens dot 953 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: NFL dot net during camp. By the way, any press 954 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 4: conference that we have is going to live in the 955 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 4: Ravens Press Pass podcast feed, so every presser media availability 956 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 4: is there in its entirety. So go ahead check out 957 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 4: that feed as well, so you make sure you're subscribe 958 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 4: to both feeds, leave a rating, inter review. So thank 959 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 4: you so much for watching, thank you for listening, and 960 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 4: we'll talk with you again soon