1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hi, this is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show. 2 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: Hi, everybody, Welcome to The Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, 3 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Jim Salisbury, Todd's a lucky, happy Fourth of July weekend. 4 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: Hopefully you are listening or watching us down at the 5 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 2: shore on the beach. If you're not lucky enough to 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: be at the shore, hopefully you are in your backyard, 7 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: on your patio, on your deck, on your porch, manning 8 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: the grill, you have a cocktail or a beer in 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: your hand. Phillies Braves open a three game series Friday 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: night at Truce Park in Atlanta. Kind of a big 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: series relatively speaking for early July. Who better to talk 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: Phillies Braves than Jeff Frankcore, former Brave, former Philly. Jeff 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: is a Braves broadcaster. He is a national broadcaster for TBS. 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Super insightful, super great guy. Shares a lot of great 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: stories of his time with the Phillies. Offers a lot 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: of really great insight on what makes this current Phillies 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: team great. And of course we talk about the Braves 18 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: what they're going to need to do to catch up 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: with the Phillies. We also get into his podcast, Pure Athlete, 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 2: which is geared towards youth sports, something as near and 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: dear to my heart. So sit back, relax, and enjoy. Jeff, 22 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: thanks for joining us, man, it's so great to have 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: you on. We're gonna talk some Phillies braves today, but 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: first I do want to mention you are doing this 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: podcast called Pure Athlete. I founded about a year ago 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: because I have an eight year old, five year old, 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: one year old. My eight year old's in little league, 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: and it is about youth sports. Your co host Brittley 29 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: Brad Williams. It's kind of like helping young athletes and 30 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: parents kind of navigate youth sports. And it is so 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: good and so valuable and so helpful. And I've talked 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: to some other people about some other parents in the 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: little league that my son's in, and they've become addicts 34 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: and listen to it. And you have some great guests. 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: You've had JT. 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 2: Real Muto on Ryan Howard on a lot of Philly 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: connection people, Carly lloyd Is on, Mark Derosu went to 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: Penn Matt Ryan who went to Penn Charter. It's a 39 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: lot of fun and I imagine you have a great 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: time doing it. And you feel like you're helping spread 41 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: the message of trying to make you sports positive and sane. 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: Well for sure, and you know, I love obviously with 43 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: Ruben was able to bring me up in fifteen and 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: Philly and I'll say this, man, I've told I get 45 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 4: a lot of crap down in Atlanta for it, but 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: you know how much I love playing there and the 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 4: way they treat the families, you know, just the whole 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: idea was run first class and so obviously, but the 49 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 4: main thing is, you know, I got four kids on 50 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: my own now, and you get into this thing and 51 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 4: you start seeing the way that some of these other 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 4: coaches and parents are and they're screaming at eight year 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: old kids, They're screaming at nine year. 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: Old kids, and I'm like, what are we doing here? 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's like you're not being paid for this, 56 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: You're not you know, doing this, and it's just I mean, 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: it's kind of people have lost their minds. And I 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: love giving you know, ideas of guys like right, like 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: perfect example, Ryan Howard, right like he didn't go to FSU, 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 4: he didn't go to you know, one of these huge 61 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 4: college baseball programs. You know, we just slowly developed and 62 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: turned into a great baseball player, and like, let your 63 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: kids develop that. Let your kids develop their patch. And 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: you know, I've told it on there. Obviously I love baseball, 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 4: but after a year my son was like completely uninterested 66 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 4: in the game. I found him out there, you know, 67 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 4: looking at all this stuff and didn't care. 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: And I'm like, but do you like this? 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: And he's like no, And like I had to look 70 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: at myself because I'm like, just because I played it, 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: you don't have to play it. And so now he's 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: playing lacrosse, which I know is huge up by y'all, 73 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: and he loves it. I knew nothing about it. Now 74 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: I'm helping his coaches lacrosse team. I've learned all this stuff. 75 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: But like he's passionate about it. So I'm like, let's do. 76 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: It, dude. 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: Like he comes home from school and he has lacrosse practice, 78 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: he's got his gear set out ready. Dude, he'd come 79 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: home for baseball. I'd be like, all right, let's go, 80 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: and he's like, do I got to go today? 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: You know? And it's like but so it's like, let 82 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: your kid drive the ship. 83 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying don't push them, you know, you 84 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: got to work, get them out there do stuff. But 85 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: at the same time, you know, I think we're just 86 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 4: trying to give parents a way to navigate. 87 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: You know. One of the first questions I ask. 88 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: All parents guys, is what do you want out of 89 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: sports for your kids? What do you want out of it? 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 4: And like, for me, I want my kids to learn 91 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: work ethic, discipline, how to be a great teammate, you know, 92 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 4: how to come beside people. And I've always said it, like, 93 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 4: then if you get sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, whatever sport and 94 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to play in college, you know, 95 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: now let's look back. But there's these ten year old 96 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: travel teams that are from Georgia going all the way 97 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: out to California for ten days. 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, how the hell are your parents affording this? 99 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: You know, totally, And I thought when you do have 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 2: some of these athletes and it's amazing how a lot 101 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: of them have similar stories about just not being pushed 102 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: and you know, just. 103 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: Loving the game sports, right, like playing well multi sports. 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: Matt Right talked. 105 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: About it, you know what made me a great quarterback? Dude, 106 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: I was a shortstop in high school. And He's like, 107 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: happened to move side to side being under center. He's like, 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: all that stuff made me better at football, and now 109 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: these kids are special I mean kids are playing one 110 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty baseball games a year. 111 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you know, like, good Lord. 112 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: Not to mention that, not to mention the not to 113 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: mention the injury part of it, too, right, because you're 114 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: doing one thing all the time and your bodies just 115 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: at that age aren't able to really you know what, 116 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: We're able to handle. 117 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: That physically, rub And I love that you said that. 118 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 4: One of our most powerful ones. We had a doctor 119 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: from Emory on doctor Neary and he's one of the 120 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: top pediatric doctors with injuries and sports, and he was saying, 121 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: in the last twenty years, where people used to get 122 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: their first major injury at seventeen is now all the 123 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: way up to twelve years old because of specialization in sports. 124 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: He said, the kids are using the same muscles, they 125 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 4: never get to use anything different, and it's killing them 126 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: and the parents keep wondering. 127 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: Why, you know, and it's like, you know, I tell 128 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the story. Brian McCann. 129 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 4: You know, y'all all love I won a great catcher 130 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 4: hard enough, He pulled his team off a field a 131 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: few years ago because this coach had his guy throwing 132 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty pitches and Brian told him, if 133 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: you don't pull that guy, I'm I'm off. I'm not 134 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 4: I'm not watching this kid. You know, fall apart out here, 135 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 4: and Brian pulled his team off the field. 136 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that those natural breaks when you had 137 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 3: those seasons, right, you played brack basketball, you know, hockey, whatever. Absolutely, 138 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 3: those are really kids. We have the same message. My 139 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: brother and I do the same sort of thing. We 140 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: have the same messages, and sometimes it falls on deaf ears, man, 141 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: but it is what it is. 142 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it welloks like you said, right, like you're when 143 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 4: you were GM, You're not looking at some fourteen year 144 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 4: old kid going, man, this kid, we need to keep 145 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: an eye on him, like no o, nobody cares. Correctly, 146 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: it's your athlete, right, Jeff, it is, yeah, pure athlete. 147 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: And man, we've had some great guests on so. 148 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: You really have You really have had some great and 149 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 2: like heavy hitter guests and they have been really good. 150 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: You know, I'm actually looking forward to we're actually doing 151 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 4: next week before the JEFT is Charlie Condon from University 152 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 4: of Georgia, who's probably gonna be the first, second or 153 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: third pick. But he's a great story, right, he was 154 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 4: a walk on at Georgia. I mean that's for example, 155 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: this kid didn't even get a scholarship. Great story and 156 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: great story. And so my whole thing is I want 157 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: to show parents, like, if you keep working, teach the fundament. 158 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Smoltzy had one of the best. We all know Smoltzy 159 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: can get going. 160 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 4: And you know, but I love what he said when 161 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: he said, I wish more coaches at young age would 162 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: have the stones as he did, say stones, but I'm 163 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: gonna say stones on here. 164 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: You can say balls. You can say balls here. 165 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: All right, perfect. 166 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: I wish you talk about Jim's balls all the time. 167 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: I wish more coaches have the balls to teach development 168 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: over winning at a young age. 169 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: And I couldn't agree more. 170 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 5: With that, Frenchie. 171 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 6: I just want to say, it's really nice of you 172 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 6: to name your podcast after Ruben pure athlete. 173 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: That's exactly right, good point, it was in my mind. 174 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 6: I want to tell you a story, though. I want 175 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 6: to tell you a story, and I'm totally on board 176 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 6: with what you're doing. Positive you want that kid to 177 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 6: look forward to going to the field and going to 178 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 6: the basketball cour on the hockey rink that night and 179 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 6: having fun and growing as a human being. A former 180 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 6: Philly told me a story once that and this guy 181 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 6: was booed in Philadelphia, and he said, booing don't bother me, 182 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 6: because every time I had a bad game as a kid, 183 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 6: my father yelled at me the whole ride home. 184 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 5: It toughened me off. How do you balance that? Well, No, 185 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: I do. 186 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: I think there's got to be tough love one hundred percent. 187 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: Like you asked my daughter, I coach her travel so 188 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: football team. She's ten, and there's days she gets in 189 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: the car after game and I really don't say anything 190 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden she'll be like, man, Dad, 191 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 4: I didn't play real good. 192 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, you suck today. Like let's call 193 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: it what it is now. Does it mean I don't 194 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: love you anymore? 195 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: No? 196 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: And if anything, it means okay, let's go to work. 197 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 4: But I think that's where you find out if it's 198 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: really the kid's passion, Jim, or your passion? 199 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Does it by you know? 200 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: My dad used to say, you know, with my brother, 201 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 4: he get in the car on the way home, and 202 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: if you had a bad game, it was like, oh, 203 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: well where my dad said, you would get in the 204 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 4: car and it drove you crazy, like you wanted to 205 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: get better. And so I think that's good, right, But 206 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: you don't want to just kill the kid where eventually 207 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: they're like, I don't want to do this anymore. Don't 208 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 4: take that away. Teach passion, Teach hard work. You know, 209 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 4: you come watch me coach. I practice hard. But then 210 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: when the game comes along, let them go play. I mean, 211 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 4: you know how hard it is. These parents are yelling 212 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: at their kids. Keep your back, elbow up, you know. 213 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: I'm like, first of all, you know how hard the 214 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 4: game is. Guys, if you're sitting there thinking about all 215 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: these things, you have zero chance. So it's like, let 216 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: the kids at least figure it out on their own. 217 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: You know. 218 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: I don't tell our kids that ten year old girls. 219 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: I don't yell at them during the game. If there's 220 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 4: first and second the ball's hit, I don't tell them 221 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: where to go. I want them to know where to go. 222 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: We work on it. You know, if it's hit to short, 223 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: you can get a quick out a third if not, 224 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 4: flip it the second, like you want them to learn 225 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: that stuff. And if that means you lose a game 226 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: and you don't get a four dollars ring that they 227 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: buy from Amazon, We'll be just fine. 228 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 3: And you make a great point because that's one of 229 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: the things that's happening in player development across baseball, where 230 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: guys are not being allowed to play and figure out 231 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: like where to play. They're they're giving him like these 232 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: little cards. Okay, this is a guy. This is instead 233 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: of watching the game and saying, Okay, if I'm in 234 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: a second basement and I see as a left handed 235 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: hitter and he's pulling everything, I'm going to slide over 236 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 3: to the hole. Imagine that I was doing. It just 237 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: doesn't happen anymore. 238 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: No, And I was doing the Yankees Orioles with Bob 239 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: Costas a couple of tuesdays ago when when Willie Mays died, 240 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: right when he passed away, we were in the fifth inning, 241 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 4: and I remember the one thing that came to my 242 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 4: mind is could you imagine, because we just got done 243 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: showing an outfielder looking at a card, I said, could 244 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 4: you imagine giving Willie Mays a card? You know? When 245 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 4: this guy comes up, you know, and I think about it. 246 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: For me, I played next to Andrew Jones. You know, 247 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: I think, besides Willie Mays, it might have been the 248 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: greatest center fielder. Agreed, and I said, I just watched Andrew. 249 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 4: I said, I could imagine an a guy telling Andrew 250 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: you've got to move over two steps, Like sure, all right, 251 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: I'll be right on. 252 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 6: You know, Willie May is in the fifty four World Series. 253 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 6: Let me see Rick Wartz. How do I play Vic Worts? 254 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: But I agree, you talk about the minor leagues, Ruben 255 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: guys come up now, and I hear it from all 256 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 4: sorts of the you know, I talk to the you know, y'all's, 257 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 4: Phillies coaching staff all the time. I talk to the 258 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 4: Braves and Mett's. And then the number one thing that 259 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 4: I'll say is these kids don't come up and really 260 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: know how to play the game. And that's the most 261 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: frustrating thing to them. 262 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: Because they're not necessarily taught how to play the game. 263 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: They're taught how to maximize their their talent and so 264 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: and so that's a that's a really important element. I'm 265 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: not saying every organization is like that, but there are 266 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: a lot of them, and there's a lot of people 267 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: who are running their organizations who don't understand those at 268 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 3: the essence of what it is to be a winning 269 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: player as opposed to just a player who's going to 270 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: maximize his ability to play. 271 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: You know, and I'll say this. 272 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 4: You know, you talk about the Phillies, Rube, when y'all 273 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: were there and you had Chase and Rob and Jimmy 274 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 4: and Halladay, you had people that love the baseball. People 275 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: ask me about this Phillies team all the time right now, 276 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 4: for the last two three years. I said, they got 277 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: people that love to play. I mean, you know, I 278 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 4: golf with JT. Realmuto all the time. You know, they're 279 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 4: all all the Phillies are coming out to well I 280 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: shouldn't say that, madam. 281 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: A few of them might be coming out play, right, 282 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: got it. 283 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: They do like the golf. 284 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 4: They're coming out to play. 285 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: You know. 286 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: I play with those guys all the time, but they 287 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: love to play baseball. We get out there, you know, 288 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 4: and it's like, I won't bring it up specifically because 289 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 4: I remember it's like, ah, you're playing golf, but what 290 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 4: do we end up talking about for four and. 291 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: A half hours while we play baseball? 292 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 4: And so these guys live and breathe and sleep at 293 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: Bryce Harper. I'll pay him because I know, oh for 294 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: four it matters to him, not the money he gets. 295 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: The money's great, he's gonna make playing, but it matters 296 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 4: to him. Chase Utley when he was there, you know, 297 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 4: he knew he was gonna make plenty of money, but 298 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: that son of a gun hated to lose worse than anybody. 299 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: And so I said, that's the one thing that Phillies 300 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: have going right now. 301 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: They got people that love to play the game of baseball. 302 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 2: They do. I remember talking a couple a couple of 303 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: springs ago, and I asked, like, who do you think 304 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: in this clubhouse loves being a baseball player the most? 305 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: And a couple of guys said Kyle Schwarber, Man, that 306 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 2: guy is always talking about But every time I walk 307 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: by Kyle Schwarber, he is literally talking about baseball. 308 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: And I think there's a lot of guys in that 309 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: clubhouse that do that. 310 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: We can all say we know the long term deals 311 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 4: the last five years that haven't worked out. I think 312 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 4: you know, Rubin, you probably know better, and you knew 313 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: it was going to be a train wreck. Some of 314 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: these guys hated baseball. They're not going to play unless 315 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 4: than one hundred percent healthy. And so then it's like, 316 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, they're not even playing and they've 317 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: made one hundred and twenty million. 318 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: I want to be like, did you not see that coming? Like, 319 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, did you not vet them? Did you not 320 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: find out if they actually liked the game? 321 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: Right? And may you make a great point. You make 322 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: a great point. And you know, some guys, you know, 323 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: get injured, and it's one thing, but but there are 324 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: a lot of guys who who who you see out 325 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: there who are getting paid and uh, and it's just 326 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: so important. It's not it's not necessarily about just the talent. 327 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: It's about their love and passion for the game. 328 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 329 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 4: I remember talking to Alex and Topless about that when 330 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 4: he signed al and Riley, and he said, that's easy 331 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 4: to me. These guys will make every dollar of it 332 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: because they play, they want to play, they show up. 333 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: It matters to them. They're grinding in the cage. They 334 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: want to win, you know. 335 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: And I think back to last year during the playoffs 336 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 4: when the Phillies and Braves, and you know, the Braves 337 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 4: weren't getting a hey hits, and Austin Riley was trying 338 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: to do anything he could to get the guys going, 339 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: and I'm like it mattered to him. You though, he's 340 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 4: gonna be twenty million whether he hits one eighty or 341 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: three twenty, but he cares, he cares what those numbers are, 342 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 4: and those are the types of guys you want on 343 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: your team. 344 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: Frenchie. 345 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: This is a great segue because Phillies Braves series beginning 346 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: Friday night in Atlanta. Braves have so you know, they 347 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: lost to Coony, they lost Strider, They're nine games back 348 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: in the standings as we record this. Is this a 349 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 2: series with any significance? Is it's early July? Does it matter? 350 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: You know, what's what's the feeling like down there in 351 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: Atlanta as the Phillies come to town? 352 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 4: Well, I would think depending on the next three weeks 353 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: and how that goes, this could be significant. Right, Like 354 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 4: if you can cut it back to five or six games, 355 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: you know, going into to the All Star break or 356 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 4: August first, then yeah, you have somewhat of a pennant race. 357 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: But you know what, the fields are playing great baseball, 358 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: and you know they're doing everything they need to do 359 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 4: and they're finally getting starting pitching Ranger Suarez between us 360 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 4: and I. You know, I gave I gave Rob Thompson 361 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: a hard time last postseason. You know, we were in 362 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: his office every day and I'm like, well, you just 363 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: let this guy throw seven innings. 364 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: He's ready to do it. 365 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I remember people would be like, yeah, 366 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 4: our goals, try to get him through five, and I'm like, 367 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: get him through five, He's no hit the Brakes through 368 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: five innings. 369 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: Well we've taken him out, you know. 370 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: But but they have got great starting pitching, and then 371 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: they have What I tell people is I think Zach 372 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: Wheeler is the best pitcher in baseball. I do. If 373 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 4: I had one guy to go start a play and 374 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: it's no disrespect to Garrett Cole. 375 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole is probably my number two. 376 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 4: But if I had one guy right now to go 377 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: into a playoff game, I want Zack Wheeler on that mouth. 378 00:15:55,120 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 6: I wonder, Jeff does it kind of eat the Braves 379 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 6: a little bit that. I mean, Zach Wheeler is an 380 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 6: Atlanta kid. He actually where your stadium is located is 381 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 6: in Smyrna, right. 382 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only like twenty minutes from HAWV Right. 383 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 5: So he actually pitched in the Smyrna the Little League. 384 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 6: Like, does it gall the Braves a little bit that 385 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 6: they didn't make a run in him? 386 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, I would think so. 387 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: But I will say this, if you think about it, 388 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 4: the Phillies have got like a great he is. He's 389 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 4: always been healthy and been able to work. You know, 390 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: with the Mets those years he was hurt, you know, 391 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 4: quite a bit. And so I think when they did 392 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: that sign, it's like this could either go one way 393 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: or could go It's kind of like with Alex and 394 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: Thopolos when he signed Chris Sale to that big thing. 395 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: I remember the two years forty and everybody's like, ah, man, 396 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: but I thought, if he's healthy, which he's done, it's 397 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 4: worth every penny. And it has been so I think 398 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: you got to get a little luck there too. But 399 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: you know, I mean again, he's been incredible. Aaron Nola 400 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: has been so good for so long. I still remember 401 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen, and I'm sure Reuben does you know 402 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: he Aaron Nola is going to Triple A. 403 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: And he scrimmaged us on that backfield that. 404 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: Day and it was me, Chase, Ryan, you know, all 405 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 4: these guys and we faced Nola and he threw like 406 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: five innings, and I remember Chase going, is he gonna 407 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: be our opening disc or second behind? He's like, why 408 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 4: is this guy out with us now? And so, you know, 409 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: they just got a lot of a lot of great players. 410 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: You know, I think down here, though, it's funny. I think, 411 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 4: you know, Braves fans have kind of been you know what, 412 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 4: maybe let's finish fourth this year and try to go 413 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: up to Philly and do what they've done to us. 414 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: Him going, Frenchie, I'm telling you, if the Phillies meet 415 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: the Braves in the NLDS, the Phillies win the division, 416 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: there is gonna be this they might even talk about 417 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: in Philly, but Phillies fans are gonna be nervous as 418 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 2: hell that this this layoff, you know, from between the 419 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: end of the regular season and the NLDS is gonna 420 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: do what you know, do to them, what what the 421 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: Braves thought it did to them. You know, it's gonna 422 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: be that would be It's gonna be on everybody's minds. 423 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 4: No doubt, said, you know what, but right baseball need this, 424 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 4: Like how perfect would that be if it happened the 425 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 4: other way? And you know, and here they are up 426 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 4: in Philly Game one, and it's like here we go, 427 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: you know. And so I actually I told someone the 428 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: other day I think the Braves, even though the offense 429 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: isn't as well hitting as well, they might be poised 430 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 4: to play better in the playoffs if you have Lopez, 431 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 4: Sale and Freed healthy, those three guys to make starts. 432 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I still tell people last year the Braves 433 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 4: offense what they did last year, guys, And you know, 434 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: I took a step back this year, but I did 435 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 4: one hundred and ten games. It was incredible watching that 436 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 4: night in a night out. I mean, it was like 437 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 4: seven eight runs every game. But then they get to 438 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 4: the playoffs, right and you come up to Philly for 439 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 4: Game three. You remember they didn't know who the starting 440 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: pitcher was until like four hours before the game, and 441 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I'm not a good sign when you're 442 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 4: going into a series and you don't know who your 443 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 4: number three is. And Strider didn't throw bad, but he 444 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 4: felt like he had to shut him out to win 445 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: ball games at that point. So I do think the 446 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 4: Braves pitching is better poised this year. So you know, 447 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. But 448 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: you know, I heard Brian Snickers say that, you know 449 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 4: they're not going to give into this at all. You know, 450 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: obviously the Phillies, you know, have a little tougher schedule 451 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: coming up. So I think that's kind of where. You know, 452 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: like I said, I think by the end of July, 453 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 4: you'll have a good idea if this is going to 454 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: be a race or if it's going to be like 455 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 4: you know, the Braves are playing for that wildcard spot. 456 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 6: Do you think I mean we hear that quote about 457 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 6: four hours of hell in Philadelphia. Yeah, you were here 458 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 6: for the postseason last year. What does it feel like 459 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 6: from your perspective the impact that that stadium in full 460 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 6: throat has on an opponent. Did it have an opponent 461 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 6: in effect on the Braves and could it be in 462 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 6: their head if we see Braves Phillies three. 463 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: When things are going good, Yes, I mean I said it, 464 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 4: when when they're hitting home runs and doing what they're doing. 465 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 4: That place is the hardest place to play in baseball, 466 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: hands down. I experienced it myself in O seven, eight 467 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 4: nine in those years, and you know how he would 468 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: come up and the bell would start raining. 469 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, here it goes, you know, and you're. 470 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 4: Just I remember Tim Hudson admitting one time he's like, 471 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 4: he I think you remember. 472 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: I can't remember what game it was. 473 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 4: It was late in the season, and I think he 474 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 4: hit Chase two or three times. No how he hit 475 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: three home runs out play, yes, but I think Tim 476 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: Hudson hit utterly twice on purpose. He said, I was 477 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 4: just sick of hearing the fans yell, and I just 478 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 4: thought i'd put one right in his ribs, you know, 479 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: and he's like, forget it. I was done with it. 480 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 4: But I do think it also though, because if you 481 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 4: remember Game six and seven last year the NLCS, when 482 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: things got a little tight, those fans got quiet and 483 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: they they they did. I think that's where the visiting 484 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 4: team a little bit. You saw the Diamondbacks kind of 485 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: take it. They started stealing bases, which we didn't see 486 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: in Game one and two. And I'll tell you what, man, 487 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: I I remember going to Game seven last year. You know, 488 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 4: you're in the booth and it's you know, tight early 489 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: the four and it was eerily quite like people people 490 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 4: were nervous and tents and they were nervous, and you 491 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: know when when the Diamondbacks won. I remember the first 492 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: thing I did was, you know, I'm up there with 493 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 4: Brian Anderson Ron Darling, and I backed my chair up 494 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 4: because I'm I ain't taking a beer bottle to the face. 495 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: These people too well. 496 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 4: And of course my favorite part was the forty five 497 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: minute ride back to the hotel where we turned on 498 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: the talk radio. 499 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 3: And I'm, oh, my goodness. 500 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just like, holy smokes, you know, and 501 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: we we put I think the whole ride was quiet 502 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: because we just kept listening to every collar calling I've lived. 503 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: Here fifty two years yet. 504 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: You know, oh yeah, and you know our little runner 505 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 4: is a kid named Noah, and he was he was 506 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 4: the one that would drive us back to the hotel. 507 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: Dude, this kid, poor kid. 508 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 4: On the way home after game seven, I was just 509 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 4: praying he didn't drive us off the bridge. 510 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: He was. 511 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 4: I kept telling him, I'm like, Noah, there's brighter days ahead, buddy, 512 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: you know it's gonna be all right. 513 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: You'll get back. 514 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 4: But he because he picked us up game six, right 515 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 4: and it was a slammed Ducks were winning, so he's. 516 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: Like, we're partying the night in Philly. 517 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 4: It didn't happen. So he picks us up on game seven. 518 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 4: I remember thinking, how you doing, no, And he's like 519 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: a little nervous to be honest with you, you know, 520 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 4: but I'll tell you what though. 521 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: It makes it so fun to play up there. 522 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: And I remember the year before SMOLTI of course did 523 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 4: all the games with Fox up there, and he's like, 524 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: next year with TVs. 525 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: He's like, if they're there, man, And of course it 526 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: was awesome. 527 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: Yeah knows this. 528 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: It's awesome till it's not. 529 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 3: You're right about that. 530 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 6: One night, Frenchy when when Jimmy Rollins had his big 531 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 6: hit against Broxton back in. 532 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: Was that nine. 533 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 6: Rubin was in his executive suite and he jumped up 534 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 6: on the counter and was cheering so hard he almost 535 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 6: fell out into the crowd. 536 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: The crowdsurfed him at that point. 537 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: I was big. Then, that was big for a minute. 538 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 3: They liked me for a minute. 539 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 6: They would have padded him on the back. Then a 540 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 6: few years later they want to punch him in the mouth. 541 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: That's right, speaking of that, you know, I was looking 542 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 3: up the numbers after we signed you, and I guess 543 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: the off season of twenty fourteen and you came to Philadelphia. Actually, 544 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 3: I was looking up your numbers. You actually had a 545 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: pretty good year that year, and you were sort of 546 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: kind of bouncing around at that point, right. You played 547 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: for several different ball clubs, but it was nice to 548 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: have you. And one of the reasons why you did 549 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 3: I did sign news because I knew, you know, what 550 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 3: you were about, and what your makeup was about, and 551 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: who you were as a clubhouse, you know, leader type 552 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: of a guy. And so we had a lot of 553 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 3: started to go into that transition of very younger players, 554 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: and then I let go. I got let go, but 555 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: I was looking at the numbers after I got let go. 556 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: It's where I feel like you had some empathy for me, 557 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 3: my friend. 558 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 5: After I got let go, you really struggled. 559 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: You weren't playing like every day anymore. It was like 560 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: you were nine for forty eight with like a one 561 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 3: eighty eight average like before that you were, you know, 562 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: you had a really good year going and then I 563 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: was gone, and you were like, oh. 564 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 5: Man, I lost my guy. 565 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: Rube. 566 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 4: Well you say that, but you know, we knew each 567 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 4: other really well. I knew Charlie really well. You know, 568 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 4: we went to camp and me and Howie worked with 569 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 4: Charlie religiously on those backfields, and I always, I always 570 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 4: appreciate it because when I'd come up and play, you know, 571 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 4: Charlie would talk hitting with me all the time, man, 572 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: and we always talk about Charlie loving home run. There'd 573 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: be like a game, maybe we'd be down six to 574 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 4: one versus Phillies, and I'd be on deck and be 575 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 4: like the eighth inning, you know, games pretty much over, 576 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: and I remember Charlie would look at me kind of 577 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 4: make eye contact and he'd be like, like, hit a home. 578 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: Run, let me see something, you know. And I always 579 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 580 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 4: But I felt comfortable there, you know, and Ruben, I'll 581 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: say this, y'all made me feel needed I help those 582 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 4: young guys. When I was playing, well, I got to 583 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 4: run out there, and when all that kind of you know, we. 584 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: We had talked a little bit before. 585 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: Ruben, you know, was let go about coming back for 586 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: a year or two, and so I, man, I played 587 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: with a purpose. And then after that, you know, it's 588 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: kind of like they're going to completely change this thing. 589 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 4: And I knew I wasn't coming back, and that sucked, 590 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: because I told you, I enjoyed my time up there, 591 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: you know. Todd Jim, y'all talk to me all the time. 592 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 4: You knew it, like I felt. I started like, man, 593 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: I knew when I wasn't playing that, you know, between 594 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 4: Sandberg and Pete, you know, it was like, hey, guys, 595 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 4: if it's a six seventh eighth inning and there's a 596 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 4: big moment, you're a pinch hitter, like you're a guy 597 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 4: that's going up there to deliver a big knock, you know. 598 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: And as a player, I took pride in that. You know, 599 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: I would go down, work, get ready, get. 600 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: My thing in. And when that kind of hit and 601 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: it was changed, I'll be honest, the last month kind 602 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: of sucked, man, because I knew I was on my 603 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 4: way out after the season, and uh, you know, I 604 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 4: didn't really want to be you know, I'd made that known, 605 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: but you know they went in a different way, and uh, 606 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 4: you know that was that. But I I loved it. 607 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 4: I remember Ruben talking on the phone and he said, look, 608 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 4: if you come to camp and do what you should, 609 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: you should be on this team and you should make 610 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: a difference. And so I went to camp, you know, 611 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: put all the work in and and you know, played 612 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 4: a big part. But it just it just one't meant 613 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 4: to be Frenchie. 614 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: You also had a good era, well for one inn, 615 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 5: for one inning. 616 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 4: I tell people that story all the time because it's 617 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: one I'm my favorite, because we'd given up Drum Williams 618 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 4: started that game. And remember if you go look, I 619 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 4: think at the box score, we gave up a run 620 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: every inning until the seventh, when this guy came in 621 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: and went. 622 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: One, two, three. 623 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: And I remember I throwing what eleven or twelve pitches 624 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 4: and I come walking in chest high, you know. I 625 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: remember Cole and Aaron Harang and those guys are sitting 626 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 4: there and I'm like, guys, it's not that hard. 627 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: You just gotta throw fight. I remember. 628 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: So I but I thought I was done right, and 629 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: Rhino comes down. He's like, dude, that was solid. You 630 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: got one more inning in you. And I'm like, one 631 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 4: more inning, I can go nine, Like let's do this thing. 632 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: And so I remember I was throwing ninety to ninety 633 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 4: one and had the two seamer rolling in there, you know. 634 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 4: And but I sat down for those fifteen twenty minutes, right, Well, 635 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,239 Speaker 4: I forgot that when you sit down and lose all 636 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 4: that momentum and then go back out like that's why 637 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 4: starters are starters, and relievers are relievers, and dude, I'll 638 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 4: never forget. 639 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: I went back. I went back out there, and it 640 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: was a disaster. 641 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 4: The first pitch I threw, if you remember at Camden Yards, 642 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 4: it would shoot up like what it was, and and 643 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: Flarity hit Ryan Flaerty hit a home run off first 644 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 4: pitch I threw in that second inning and it said 645 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: change up eighty. 646 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: Three and I was like, no, that was my fastball. 647 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 4: And then of course, you know, freaking Chase is about 648 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 4: to get into it, you know, with pitching coach, and 649 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 4: it was just like with McClure and I'm like, oh 650 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 4: my god, this is this is not good. 651 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 5: Frenchy, And you got to tell you told me this once, 652 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 5: like you actually snuck up into the clubhouse before that 653 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 5: inning and did something give us that the. 654 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: Only time, you know. 655 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 4: I'm so, I've actually, I've actually when I was in Philly, 656 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: I can't remember where you I broke a young kid's phone. 657 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who it was. 658 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 4: But we got in after the game and the first 659 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: thing they did, we got smoked, and he was looking 660 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 4: at his phone and I threw it on the ground 661 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 4: and then I handed him three hundred bucks, and I 662 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 4: was like, I felt bad, but I was like, go 663 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: buy one. I'm sick of watching it, you know, because 664 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: again it mattered to me. 665 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: I cared. 666 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: I knew we weren't the most talented team, but I'm 667 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: only get our face beat in, right, like, let's let's 668 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 4: get after it. And so so I never had my phone, 669 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 4: but I remember the only time in my life I 670 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: called my my my wife, and I said, call my 671 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 4: mom and dad, tell him I'm coming into the seventh inning. 672 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: Turned out to TVR. That was about the fifth inning, 673 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 4: and so I remember the sixth inning, trotting out there 674 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 4: warming up. Man, my heart was pounding. I was ready 675 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: to go. And but yeah, the only time I ever 676 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 4: went to my phone. And that's why I actually when 677 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 4: my wife answered, she thought like something was seriously wrong 678 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 4: because she's, you know, she knows by five o'clock, I 679 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 4: can't get in touch with Jeff. My phone's up. Like, 680 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 4: if I need someone, I'll call the clubhouse guy, right like, 681 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: but that was saying. Then I always tell people the 682 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: funniest part is if you remember, you know, that was 683 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 4: on a Tuesday night, and then we came home to 684 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 4: play the Orioles on a Wednesday and Thursday, and I'll 685 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 4: never forget that. Ryan Sandberg was like, my left ass 686 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: cheek was hurting so bad. I threw forty eight pitches 687 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 4: learning on it, and I couldn't walk. And so I 688 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 4: remember we take the train back home and I was 689 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 4: walking all crippled to the train cause my cheek heard 690 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 4: so about it. And I remember Rhino going, you don't 691 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 4: have to do anything tomorrow, like you have taken it 692 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 4: for the team. You don't have to hit, you don't 693 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: have to do anything. I'm like, thank God, like I 694 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: didn't want to do it. So I get to the 695 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 4: field the next day. I literally I think I spent 696 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: two hours in the hot tub. I think the massage 697 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: guy massage my tail, you know, for me, like it 698 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: was just I wanted nothing. But then what happens is 699 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 4: we get to the ninth inning in Philly and I 700 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: think the Orioles were up one or two and we 701 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 4: had a base runner and Zach Britton was pitching the 702 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 4: old lefty closer Nasty. I think Mina Dubal Horreri were 703 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 4: the only guys left on the bench, and I remember 704 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 4: Rhino coming down to the bench to me kind of 705 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: had his head down. He's like, Frenchie, if I send 706 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 4: a double Herrera up there with you on the bench, 707 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to look like the biggest idiot in Philadelphia. 708 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I haven't taken a swing. 709 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 3: Right all day. 710 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know what, I'll go up there. 711 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: And I remember I grounded out to second and I 712 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: ran to first like Kurt Gibson in that World Series, 713 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 4: and everybody. Of course, the game ends. You know, it's 714 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 4: anti climatic, nothing happened. But I remember walking back in 715 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: the dugout and Rhino just comes down and pats me 716 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 4: and says, thanks, man, that was huge. 717 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 718 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: I've never got congratulated for hitting a ground ball the 719 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 4: second in the game. That was the first. Frenchie, what 720 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 4: can you tell us? 721 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: You know during that game when you pitched, Bob McClure 722 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: and Chase got into it. I mean, was that an 723 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: all timer? How many F bombs and a half? 724 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 4: There were fifteen F bombs being being thrown out there, 725 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 4: and I remember Chase saying, he's done everything you've asked 726 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 4: him to do. And I remember Bob saying, were you 727 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: the pitching coach? I don't think so just play first base, 728 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: because Chase was at first that thing, and I mean 729 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: it was getting pretty serious, and I remember just finally 730 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 4: getting between the two and I'm like, look, stop, like 731 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: one more hitter. I'll do one more hitter. And if 732 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 4: I don't, luckily I got that guy out in the inning. 733 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 4: But man, I was like, we're gonna, you know, the 734 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: season's already not going great. We're gonna have Chase Utley 735 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: and Bob McClure dropping down on the pitching. 736 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: Ma I'm going at it. And I just I remember looking. 737 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 4: Over at but sher Walters and because remember that's when 738 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: the Oriols they were hot. Man, they were good. That's 739 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: when they had all those guys. And I remember looking 740 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 4: over and Bucks like what are we doing? 741 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: You know? 742 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: And I just always walked it. That Actually, the last 743 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 4: two three years, when we would do a TVs. Game 744 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: and I'd go into Bucks office, we would talk about 745 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 4: that situation every single time and he would just laugh. 746 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 747 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it was. 748 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: It was an all time moment and during a really 749 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 2: bad season that needed it needed some levity, it did. 750 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: And don't think that every year on that day, Tom 751 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: McCarthy doesn't send me happy anniversary. You know, he doesn't 752 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: know my birthday, my anniversary, but he remembers the anniversary 753 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 4: of me pitching. 754 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 5: That's funny, Frenchie. 755 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 6: One of the kind of the characteristics of this Philly 756 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 6: team the last few years is their resilience, their toughness, 757 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 6: whatever you want to call it. They lost Harper for 758 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 6: a couple stretches in twenty twenty two. They lost them 759 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 6: to a broken thumb, and they went They played twelve 760 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 6: games over five hundred, So Phillies are a resilient club. 761 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 6: I look at this Braves team. They lose, you know, 762 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 6: they lose Fences Strode, they lose Ronald coun just just 763 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 6: and and and the two guys at the corners are 764 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 6: not having their big you know, Riley is still there. 765 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 5: There's still a good ball club. 766 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 6: You give Brian Snicker a little tip of the hat 767 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 6: for that because he and Rob Thompson they kind of 768 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 6: remind me. 769 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 4: Of each other. You know, it's so funny. I've had 770 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 4: so many people, but he's in Atlanta, text me, when 771 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 4: is Snick gonna go in there and tip a table, 772 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 4: you know, call a team meeting this And I said, 773 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 4: I remember Bobby cox Man, who I you know how 774 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: I love him like he's my second dad. And I 775 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: remember you say team meeting is for losing losers. You 776 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: have team meetings when you're losers. Like, if you have 777 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: the right players in that clubhouse, they will police themselves 778 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: and they'll get through it. 779 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: And I want to give them the opportunity. 780 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 4: And so you know when you talk about Rob Thompson, 781 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 4: I look at him a lot and snit When things 782 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 4: weren't going well last year, the last two years for 783 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: the Phillies, the first three four months, it never was 784 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 4: this like blow up the clubhouse, do it. You have 785 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 4: confidence in those guys that they're gonna pick it up 786 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: and they're gonna do it. And I think that's where 787 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: Snit does the same. You know, with those with those braves, 788 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 4: guys like, look, y'all are good, you have back of 789 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 4: baseball cards, You've done what you can do. At some 790 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 4: point you're gonna turn it around, right, And I think 791 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 4: that goes to show you, though, how hard the game 792 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 4: of baseball is. 793 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Man. 794 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 4: That you know, guys like Austin Riley can have the 795 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 4: year they had last year and they'll spend a month 796 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: where they can't hit, and it's like, this game is 797 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: so tough, man. I mean, Jackson Holliday was a perfect 798 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: example of that, right, Like, I think this guy's gonna 799 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 4: be incredible, But he came up to the big leagues 800 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 4: and they found a weakness, dude, and they exploited it. 801 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: I watched numerous those bats. They were running balls in 802 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 4: on him, trying to get him quick on the inside 803 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: and then going away. And it's like, until you figure 804 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 4: that stuff out. But we talk about it now, right, 805 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: these gms now are given no ability to try to 806 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: build something. Chris Getz, you know who's with the White Sox. 807 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 4: He's one of my best friends. We played together in 808 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 4: Kansas City, we go on vacation. I feel so bad 809 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: because I'm like, are they gonna give him three years 810 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 4: to try to build this thing? Because it's like, you 811 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: can put any manager you want with that team. They're 812 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: not winning a bunch of games. They don't have the talent. 813 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 4: And that's what you know, Chris told me this year, 814 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 4: I'm trying to find out who wants to play, who 815 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 4: can play, who can produce, and who and then kind 816 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 4: of go from there. But again, so what happens Jim 817 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 4: they bring all these kids up, that Braves kid, Hurston, Waltrip, 818 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 4: they brought up last month or whatever, eighty five and 819 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 4: a third innings in the minor leagues, and now you're 820 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 4: expecting him to go get these grown men that have 821 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 4: put these massive numbers up. It might work for an inning, 822 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: it might work for two starts, but if they don't 823 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 4: know how to fail. 824 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: And get back, it's too tough. 825 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: Man. 826 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 3: This this game will beat you up. 827 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 4: I remember when I got me and Brian mccannon our 828 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: first year in minor league ball. I remember Dayton Moore, 829 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: you know who is the Braves head of the minor league. 830 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 4: At that point, Dayton said, y'all are playing the whole 831 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 4: year in Rome. I don't care if you hit seven 832 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 4: to eighty, You're gonna play the whole year in Rome. 833 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 4: I want you to learn bus rides. I want you 834 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: to learn three game series. I want you to learn 835 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 4: day games at ten o'clock in the minor leagues after 836 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 4: you know a night game. But he's like, I want 837 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 4: you to experience a full season. So don't think just 838 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 4: because you're doing well, we're going to move you up 839 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 4: on the fast track, like you will get there when 840 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 4: you get there, and I always appreciated that because they 841 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 4: gave us time to go through a full season. Unfortunately, 842 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 4: the way that these gms and presidents now they feel 843 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 4: like they got a winner. They got to put you in. 844 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 4: They don't give them time that they rush these kids. 845 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's Kyle Wright. Y'all watch Kyle Wright for 846 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: years with the Braves. Everybody kept asking all the time, 847 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 4: what's wrong with Kyle Wright? And I'm like, nothing's wrong. 848 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 4: You don't have experience just because he dealta Vanderbilt. You know, 849 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: he's got to learn how to pitch. And when he 850 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 4: finally learned how to pitch two years ago, you remember 851 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 4: what happened twenty one games he was incredible, ninety five 852 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 4: sinking in you know, obviously got hurt, but I'm like, 853 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 4: he finally learned how to pitch. 854 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 7: And yeah, that was one of the most important things 855 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 7: when we talked about well, you know Cole Hamil's and 856 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 7: Aaron Nola, because you guys can't rush these guys up there. 857 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 3: You have to let them. They have to learn how 858 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 3: to fail, because they basically had not failed ever and 859 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 3: bounced back from failure. Always believe in that. Let's see 860 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: how this guy reacts when he gets beat up a 861 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 3: little bit, because if he gets beat up at the 862 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 3: major league level, he may not bounce back, he may 863 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 3: not figure it out, and it'll be panicking instead of, 864 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: you know, unless he's got a certain level of confidence. 865 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, players are being developed at 866 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 3: the major league level now instead of being developed at 867 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 3: the minor league level, and it's speed up baseball. And 868 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,959 Speaker 3: I think it's a detriment to the game. 869 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: I do too, And that's why you talk about it. 870 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 4: I talked to Freddy Freeman about this all the time, 871 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 4: because you know, we talked about no time in our 872 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 4: game has pitching been more nastier than it is now. 873 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: Guys starting a hundred, just balls going off the thing. 874 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 4: But as Freddy Freeman told me, no time in our 875 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 4: game have the pitcher's ever been stupider. And he goes, 876 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 4: he goes, you know, O two to two. Oh, it 877 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: doesn't matter, you know. And I for perfect example, I 878 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: did the Subway series, you know, last week, and at 879 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 4: City Field and the Mets up nine to one, it 880 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 4: got to nine to three bases loaded, and Rite Garrett 881 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 4: threw through two nasty sliders to judge he took them 882 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 4: both and now it's an O two count, and then 883 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 4: he threw a fastball at ninety nine out over the 884 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 4: plate belt high and he hits the Grand Slam, and 885 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: I remember thinking, I'm like, that's a layup for him. 886 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 4: I mean, you just and that's what Freddy says. Whether 887 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 4: I'm in a two zero count O two, I feel 888 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 4: like there's not counts anymore, Like you just wait for 889 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 4: that pitcher to make a mistake and you capitalize. Now, honestly, 890 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 4: they're two of the better hitters in the game. But 891 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 4: I'm just saying these guys didn't get a chance to 892 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 4: develop down in the minor leagues. This is how you pitch. 893 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 4: This is what you do. So that's what's impressive when 894 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 4: you do get a guy like a Zach Wheeler. You know, 895 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 4: Rinaldo Lopez, what he's doing for the bravest here. When 896 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 4: you've got stuff and the smartness, they know how to pitch, 897 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 4: they're just carving people. 898 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. 899 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 6: Lopez gonna you know, make it for the season because 900 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 6: he's been a reliever and doesn't have that anything, so. 901 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 4: You know, but but he's been a ever but he's 902 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 4: been a starter for a long time, and I think, 903 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 4: you know, that goes to show you sometimes, you know, 904 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 4: And I don't want to call anybody out, but the stupidity, 905 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 4: the fact that this guy hasn't been a starter. 906 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: The whole time, right, what do we do it? 907 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 2: You know? 908 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: Like you, I mean, Ruben knows this. 909 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 4: If you have anybody, if they give me every five 910 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 4: days for thirty starts, I want them doing that. They're 911 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 4: way more valuable than one inning here and there. 912 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: And so I do. 913 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 4: Lopez is a big guy too, man, I I don't 914 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: think he's gonna break. And I think the Braves are 915 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 4: done a good job of you know, a few of 916 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 4: the games he's pitched. You know, he's throwing like seventy 917 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 4: four seventy five pitches and they got them out if 918 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 4: they're up, you know, six to one in the sixth inning. 919 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 4: But I also think something that doesn't get talked about enough. 920 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 4: And one thing I actually do like that the Braves 921 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 4: do is look at you know, Rick Kranitz, who I 922 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 4: love Cranny and he talks all the time about stressful 923 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 4: pitches and he's like, if guy's out there mowing, and 924 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 4: that's what we talk about Wheeler, Right when people how 925 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 4: many games do we watch Wheeler where he'll throw seven ings, 926 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 4: one hundred and ten pitches, but zero stress. I mean 927 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 4: he's not he's not worked up, doesn't care. It's nice 928 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 4: and easy. So I don't think innings is that big 929 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 4: of a deal compared to how stressful. So that we 930 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 4: talk about young kids that come up, right, most of 931 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 4: those innings are stressful for these kids. Man, they're trying 932 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 4: to do it, so that those are the ones you 933 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 4: have to watch. But I don't think guys like that. 934 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 4: I think he'll be fine. 935 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 6: Jeff Alex Santopoulos, we're big fans of him. Once he 936 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 6: cut up his sleeve later this month's trade deadline. 937 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure something. 938 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 4: I know everybody in Atlanta's wondering, you know, what, what 939 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 4: what are you gonna do? But I think one thing 940 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: that he's proven is it's not always the big acquisition, right, 941 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 4: it's the right fit. And I go back to twenty 942 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 4: one when they, you know, won the World Series and 943 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 4: beat the Dodgers. You know, the Dodgers went out and 944 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 4: got Sureser, they got Turner, you know, I got the 945 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 4: big sexy names, and you know who ended up being 946 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 4: the NLCS and World Series MVPs. It was freaking Eddie 947 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 4: Rosario and Jorge Silaire right like they got the right 948 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 4: guys and for not a lot. So I think you'll 949 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 4: see him do something. You know, there's a lot of 950 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 4: talk down here with Shortstop too, because Arcia, as good 951 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 4: as he's been defensively the best finally kind of hit that, 952 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 4: you know, at level a little bit. And so I 953 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 4: think you might see, might see an upgrade there. 954 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be some I would be. I wouldn't be 955 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 3: surprised if mister Boushett finds his way. You know, I 956 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 3: got he's got some He's got some mystery with him too, exactly. 957 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 4: And Alex knows the you know, the Toronto thing, and 958 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 4: and you know, I think a guy like him would 959 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 4: actually fit great in Atlanta too. And I think it 960 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 4: would help Riley. I think it would bring an edge 961 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 4: like that's what we talk about too, like one thing 962 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 4: the Phillies had last year, and you know, and and 963 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 4: I said this, and I think a lot of Brace 964 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 4: fans finally realized it in that four game series, with 965 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 4: the edge the Phillies played with compared to the edge 966 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 4: the Braves played with. And that's what I said. You 967 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 4: you got to you got to have a lot of 968 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 4: guys that that want to play and want to play 969 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 4: the game hard. And you know, you look at that 970 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 4: that you know what Harper and Arcia with the whole 971 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 4: thing when he turned and looked at for baseball people, 972 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 4: you know, you look at you like, this is the 973 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 4: stupidest thing I've ever seen. Like it's nothing, but the 974 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: fans raw behind it. They thought it was the biggest deal. 975 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 4: And so I'm like, yeah, smart, like you got it going. 976 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: You got everybody fired up. 977 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: You know. 978 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 4: So I do think a guy like him, man with 979 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 4: the edge he plays, that could be a great thing. 980 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Good. I think I always believed in this. I mean, 981 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 3: you have to have talent, but you have to have 982 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 3: a little asshole in you too. I mean, I mean, 983 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 3: and that's that's important. I think it's an important that 984 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 3: you got to have a little bit of that in 985 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 3: you and you have to have a little a little 986 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 3: bit of grind. 987 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 4: And I love I sat at his locker numerous times 988 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 4: and told him, you're an asshole man, and he's like, 989 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 4: I know, you know, like you didn't care, I know, 990 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 4: but you have. 991 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 2: We had we had Chase on a few weeks ago 992 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 2: and he told some great series. Do you have a 993 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 2: great Chase story, Chase story that you could tell us 994 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: that you might we might not know, just of him 995 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 2: during a game, or what you admired about him. 996 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 4: Well, I will tell you this one of the great 997 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 4: Chase Utley stories. I remember, and this is early on 998 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 4: in two thousand and six, the World Baseball Classic, And 999 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 4: you know I was on that team. He was on 1000 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 4: that team as the first World Baseball Class and Buck 1001 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 4: Martinez was the manager, and you know, you got all 1002 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 4: these superstars on their a Rod, Bonds, Griffy in this 1003 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 4: And I remember Buck Martinez telling me one time a 1004 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,959 Speaker 4: few years later, and I didn't know this went on there, 1005 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 4: but you remember, like he was that's the hard thing, right, 1006 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 4: you get all these guys. It was like he would 1007 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 4: play Kensler one day or whoever it was Chase the 1008 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 4: next and there was all these things. And I remember 1009 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 4: Buck said, Chase came into his office and told him 1010 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 4: I'm the best player on your team. You need to 1011 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 4: play me everything. 1012 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: I remember Buck going, I'm. 1013 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 4: Sitting here and I got you know, Chipper, Griffy, a Rod, 1014 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 4: and here's this young punk comes in telling me he's 1015 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 4: the best player. He's got And that was the confidence 1016 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 4: that Chase played with, Like like he he got out 1017 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 4: on that field and he wanted you to know that 1018 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 4: he was the best player, and if not, he was 1019 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 4: going to show you why he was the best player. 1020 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 4: Maybe not with a hit, but the way the way 1021 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 4: he played, the way he you know, ran the bases, 1022 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 4: Like that's the one thing I always tell people about 1023 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 4: Chase Atlee. I could truly say I probably never ran 1024 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 4: one hundred percent every time I hit a ground ball. 1025 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 4: Chase Hutley ran the first one hundred percent every time 1026 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 4: you hit a ground ball. He's the only guy I've 1027 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: ever seen do it. And that's a fact. 1028 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 3: He also would take. 1029 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 2: He also like didn't mind getting hit by pitches as well. 1030 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: I mean that guy. 1031 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 4: And that was the thing that I appreciated about Jimmy 1032 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 4: and Chase vic Dono. You know, they got up on 1033 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 4: the plate man and like if you got hit. 1034 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: You got hit. Like they they were up there for. 1035 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 4: A reason, right, Like they never minded getting hit, Like, hey, 1036 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 4: I'm putting a base runner on for Howie or who 1037 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 4: or whoever was coming up. A bay is behind it, 1038 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 4: and so it's like if you hit me, you're gonna 1039 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 4: have to deal with the repercussions of facing the two 1040 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 4: or three guys behind me, and so again it was 1041 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 4: a mindset. And when I look at this Phillies team, 1042 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 4: I tell people, man, last year, you know, I was 1043 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 4: doing Game one in Atlanta and JT hit me up 1044 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 4: and he's like, hey, do you want to play golf? 1045 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,760 Speaker 4: And I remember thinking like, well, when are the Phillies 1046 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 4: getting in town? You know, because y'all just even though 1047 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 4: you won Wednesday on that thing. And he's like, yeah, 1048 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 4: the day before and the Phillies to work out at 1049 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 4: four or five that day? 1050 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 1: Do we played twenty seven holes? 1051 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 4: We teed off at eight thirty, go out with JAT 1052 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 4: And I'll be honestly, this is when I was kind 1053 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 4: of like, man, the Braids could be in trouble. From 1054 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 4: a standpoint of I was with JT. Stott and Trey 1055 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 4: Turner and it was it was the four of us 1056 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 4: playing golf and we get done with eighteen. I remember thinking, well, 1057 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 4: don't y' all practice and they kind of look at 1058 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 4: their watch like we can squeeze nine more, and well, 1059 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 4: you know me, I'll play golf from sun up to 1060 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 4: sundown from super rolling boys, and you know, we had 1061 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 4: action going on, betting and all this stuff and just 1062 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 4: having the best time. And they got in the car 1063 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 4: and literally busted at the truest part. But for me, 1064 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 4: it was more of they've done this all year and 1065 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 4: just because it's the playoffs, we're not going to change 1066 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 4: how we do things. And I think that's one cool 1067 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 4: thing that, like when you would walk in it felt 1068 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,640 Speaker 4: like a regular season game, and when players can make 1069 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 4: it that, when managers can make it that. And I 1070 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 4: remember Brian Snicker in nineteen when they got to the 1071 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 4: playoffs for Saint Louis that year, and remember they lost 1072 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 4: that game five and Aviage got rock. But I remember 1073 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 4: Smith saying him and Alex he finally went to him, 1074 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 4: was like, enough of these meetings, enough of this four 1075 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 4: and a half hour going through like we played baseball 1076 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 4: a certain way, this is the way we need to 1077 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 4: do it. And I remember Snit saying when they went 1078 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 4: to the twenty one playoffs and they made that run, 1079 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 4: like they did the same thing that they did all season, 1080 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 4: and he said, players feel that. Players feel like, hey, 1081 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 4: there's not a lot of pressure. Rob Thompson imagine he 1082 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 4: knew those guys were playing. He I got to the 1083 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 4: field and he asked me, how'd you do against those 1084 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 4: guys today? And so my point is it could have 1085 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 4: been easy to say, guys, this is the playoffs. We're 1086 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 4: not taking the clubs, we're not doing this. But it's like, 1087 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 4: y'all done it all year, it's worked, you're comfortable with it. 1088 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 4: Let's keep doing it. And I always I appreciate that. 1089 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 2: I totally agree. 1090 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 7: Hey, Chiff French, you had a quick question about this 1091 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 7: just you personally, and you've done a lot of the 1092 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 7: stuff in the game, played for a lot of organizations, 1093 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 7: a lot of managers had the kind of thing, and 1094 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 7: he thought that you would ever want to be back 1095 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 7: on the field in that sort of role coach, manager, 1096 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 7: leader in some way, shape or form. 1097 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 4: Well, my handicap it's too good right now, and then 1098 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 4: how else would. 1099 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: I get to get to do this for freaking three 1100 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: weeks in July? 1101 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 3: A great point. I know you got young kids too. 1102 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 4: And that Reuben, I've said this my and my wife 1103 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 4: has been awesome about you. Like when the kids get 1104 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 4: older and they're done, go you go coach, do whatever 1105 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 4: you want to do. And I would I would love 1106 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,320 Speaker 4: to coach because I love you know, just just coaching 1107 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 4: my kids. I love teaching the game right. I love 1108 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 4: seeing I love seeing them struggle with something. I love 1109 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 4: them seeing work hard and figuring it out and the 1110 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 4: smile that lights up their face when they're like I 1111 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 4: accomplish something right, And so I think, you know, I 1112 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 4: would love to do that, but right now for me, 1113 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 4: just with my kids. You know, I always tell people this, man, 1114 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,760 Speaker 4: I am who I am because of my dad. 1115 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: My dad, you know, I tell people all the time. 1116 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 4: My dad gave up the chance to be a superintendent 1117 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 4: in the Cab County Schools, which is one of the 1118 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 4: biggest counties in the state of Georgia my sophomore year 1119 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 4: high school because he's like, I'm not gonna be able 1120 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 4: to watch my son play. And he's like, I'm gonna 1121 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 4: have to be at this meeting, this meeting. My sister 1122 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 4: was playing Division III college basketball at the time, and 1123 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 4: he's like, I'm not giving up. So I watched my 1124 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 4: dad give up a dream to sit here and. 1125 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: Follow me and my sister. 1126 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 4: So as when I kind of did this last year 1127 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:12,919 Speaker 4: between us, we were on a ten day road trip 1128 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 4: out west and I was in I think Seattle, Oakland, 1129 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 4: San Francisco, and I remember waking up one morning and 1130 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 4: I called my wife and I'm like, I'm done. I 1131 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 4: can't do this, Like I want to be home with 1132 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 4: our kids, coaching them, developing them. 1133 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 3: And you know, it's actually been fun. 1134 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 4: I've gone to like two or three Braves games this 1135 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 4: year with my kids and why it's the first time 1136 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 4: I've ever watched a baseball game with my kids, and 1137 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 4: I get to point out the little, you know, things 1138 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 4: that are going on that maybe they wouldn't notice if 1139 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,359 Speaker 4: I wasn't there with them, you know, and it's like, oh, 1140 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 4: I see, you know, why did they do this? Or so? 1141 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 4: But I would love to coach someday. Man, it's fun 1142 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 4: to be a part of it, you know it. I mean, 1143 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 4: between coaching and being in the front office, there's definitely 1144 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 4: this balance. But when you're down there on the field, man, 1145 00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 4: you really feel a part of a team. And I 1146 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 4: always say that there's no better feeling, you know. I 1147 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 4: got to play in the World Series in twenty ten 1148 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 4: with the Rangers, and it was like going through that 1149 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 4: grind of the postseason and getting the World Series, Like 1150 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 4: you you have a bond with those guys that you'll 1151 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 4: always have you know, I text with mikey Young and 1152 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 4: all those guys all the time, just from that short 1153 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 4: time in Texas. 1154 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Well, Frenchie, thanks a lot, man. We really 1155 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 2: appreciate the time. If you haven't checked out Pure Athlete, 1156 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 2: check it out seriously. It is so good, you know, 1157 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 2: eight year old son. For me, it's just tremendously helpful. 1158 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 2: It calms me down. Every once in a while, I 1159 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 2: hear these athletes talking about and you talk about it, 1160 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 2: and your co hosts talk about, you know, trying not 1161 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 2: to like these are they're eight years old, they're nine 1162 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: years old. 1163 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 3: Keep it fun, keep it fun. 1164 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,359 Speaker 4: You know, you know, but you know what I tell 1165 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 4: all the time. Like I was at the game actually 1166 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 4: early this year when remember Ron with Cooon you dropped 1167 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 4: the fly ball in right field, like just a random 1168 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 4: fly ball, and it hit me like a ton of 1169 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 4: bricks because I'm like, here for one of the best 1170 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 4: players in all the world is doing this. How do 1171 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 4: I how do I yell at a ten year old 1172 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 4: girl every once in a while she drops the fly 1173 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 4: ball right So it's been fun. I will tell you. 1174 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 4: I have to I have to interrupt my vacation next 1175 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 4: week because I will be up in Philly with Brian 1176 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 4: Anderson for the Dodgers Phillies Tuesday night. Oh night, So 1177 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 4: you make sure to tell Frank two scoops and I 1178 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:22,479 Speaker 4: want three scoops of cookies and cream crush out. We'll 1179 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 4: work on it. 1180 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Well thanks, make sure you pick up 1181 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 3: a couple of grouper and send him to us. Let's go. 1182 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 2: Thanks again to Jeff Frank Core. The Philly Show will 1183 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 2: be back on Monday. 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