1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: A rough outing for the Cardinals, who fall thirty seven 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: fourteen at home Sunday to the Rams and are now 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: two and ten, tied for the second worst record in football. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Welcome into Morning Scramble, presented by Rising from the Seatkeeek 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: Studio alongside Jody Jackson and Zach Gershman. I'm Danny Surreck. 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: It was ugly on all fronts. Postgame, head coach Jonathan 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Gannon said, the effort was there, the energy wasn't. Jody, 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: why did this team look so different from what we've 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: seen the rest of the season. 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: It's interesting. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: It's a great question because it's a little bit of 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 3: a mystery, especially when you realize that, you know, this 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 3: game wasn't out of hand immediately, you know, the first drive, Yeah, 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: La went down and they kind of diced up the 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: Cardinals defense, which was a theme doing the Sean McVay things. 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: You know, whether it was Jared Goffe years ago or 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: whether it's Matthew Stafford, it works for them, and it 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: worked again. But then the Cardinals came out and I 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: don't know if you guys agree, but that first drive 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: for the Cardinals, I felt like the energy was pretty good, right, 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: I mean, they were trying to establish the run with 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: James Connor. We saw Kyler under center five times, and 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: that's not really my point here, but it's just in general, 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: we saw an energy infused group. We saw the physicality 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 3: I think we wanted to see, and we saw a touchdown. 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: It was after that, while the game, you know, remained 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: fourteen to eight, kind of that sweet spot of where 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: the Cardinals had a chance to take control, you know. 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: And again, I hate to put it all on the offense, 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: because we all know the defense had to make some stops. 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: But early on, you know, their kicker missed a field goal. 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: There were some chances to get back in the game, 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: and that's just the nature of football. If you don't 34 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: make plays on offense, if you don't make a big 35 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 3: play or sustain a drive, it does deflate the entire team. 36 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: And so I think the energy, what energy was out there, 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: got drained, Zach when that happened. When they weren't able 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: to make plays, they had some really horrific possessions after 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: the touchdown. 40 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: I think the first ten minutes of the game in 41 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: general were great for the Cardinals. You won the coin toss, 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: something you haven't been able to do since week one, 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: which is kind of ridiculous if you think about it, 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 4: even fifty to fifty shots, the first time since Washington 45 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: that you were able to win the coin toss. And 46 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: then you talked about that first drive where they truly 47 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: match Los Angeles'. I mean, obviously Los Angeles went down 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: the field, they scored first, Cardinals came back, they scored second. Great, 49 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: you got a ballgame at that point, But after that, 50 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 4: it just was the self inflicted details that have hurt 51 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 4: you time in and time again that continue to add up. 52 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: It's a little bit different because this is not something 53 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: the one thing we've talked about weekend and week out 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: about this team. Energy has always been there, and this 55 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 4: was the one game where it wasn't. And there's a 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: lot of questions as to why that is, but I 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 4: think it's when you have a Kien Williams running all 58 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: over the field and having back to back career highs 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 4: in just this one season against the Cardinals. He had 60 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 4: this game circled on his calendar because he had such 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: success in Week six that he wanted to come back 62 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: in week twelve after he sustained his injury to have 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: to play against the Cardinals. He had equally amount of 64 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 4: success and where we'll talk about the offensive defense Kyler specifically, 65 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: but it's the self inflicted penalties. It's the self inflicted 66 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 4: details that really hurts you. 67 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Cardinals finished with just two hundred and ninety two till 68 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: the yards, averaging less than five yards per play, two touchdowns. 69 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: Some of those numbers are inflated because of garbage time, 70 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: including one of those touchdowns to Greg Dortch. That opening 71 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: drive was a great start for Arizona, distributed the ball well, 72 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: ended in a Kyler Murray touchdown run and that successful 73 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: two point conversion, the toush bush by rookie quarterback Clayton tune. However, 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: after that it fell off. Zach, What were those details 75 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: that you didn't see afterwards? 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: I think it was the balance. When you have such 77 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: a good running back like James Connor back there, you 78 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: really were not utilizing him as much. He only had 79 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: six rushes in I recognized. I mean, I spoke with 80 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 4: Hollywood Brown afterwards, and Hollywood Brown had, I mean, his 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: best game so far with Kyler Murray back, and I 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 4: asked him, I go, does this mean that the connections there? 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: And he's like no, because it was a throwing match. 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: At that point, you talked about a little bit about 85 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 4: the garbage time numbers and how those make the stats 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: seem a little bit better than what they probably were. 87 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 4: We saw the same thing when they played against the 88 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens, when Josh Dobbs came down towards the fourth 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 4: quarter and the game was already way out of reach, 90 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: and your numbers were starting to be inflated a little 91 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 4: bit better, and you started to recognize, like, Okay, this 92 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: wasn't as bad, but it's the fact that you had 93 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 4: such success on that first drive, whether it was being 94 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 4: under center or just being able to have that balance 95 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: between the run in the pass game. To a certain extent, 96 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: it kind of became a little bit more predictable because 97 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 4: you're now in those throwing match situations. 98 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: Between the time of that opening drive and the Greg 99 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: Dortch touchdown near the end of the game, the Cardinals 100 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: had just fifty four total net yards. The offense couldn't 101 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: string drives together. There was no rhythm Jody. After the game, 102 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: quarterback Kyler Murray did say he's not discouraged because he 103 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: understands there's growing pains. Are you feeling discouraged. 104 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: You know, I mean a little bit, but I think 105 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 3: that was really telling, you know, Danny, what he talked 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 3: about after the game. I thought it was a mature 107 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 3: answer from Kyler, a mature press conference after that game. 108 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 3: You know, he he maintained his composure when asked if 109 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: he was kind of irritated by the fact that the 110 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: offense wasn't moving the ball, and he said, no, I'm 111 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: staying positive. And I think that's a great answer, that's 112 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: a great mentality. There was no pouting, there was no 113 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't notice anything like that during the game. 114 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: I think what I learned in those postgame comments was 115 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: that Kyler Murray is still learning about football at the 116 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 3: NFL level, and I think the coaching that he's getting 117 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: right now is helping him to do that. 118 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: But it is a process. 119 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: He mentioned that it's just his third game, it's just 120 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: his seventh week of practice. 121 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: Now. 122 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: He did have the opportunity to watch all of this 123 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: going on, and he was very involved, and he is 124 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: putting in the time studying and he is now, of course, 125 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: out on the field trying to execute all of this. 126 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: But the fact that he said. 127 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: That kind of reminds me of how far he has 128 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: to come from what he was involved with in and 129 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: then here at this level in some ways, you know, 130 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: working with again a coach that he knew from college, 131 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: and there's just another level of all of this that is, 132 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully coming along over the next few games. 133 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: Now we only have five more games to really evaluate 134 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: what Kyler can do at least here in twenty twenty three. 135 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,559 Speaker 3: But there were plays to be made, like you mentioned, 136 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: fifty four yards in between the touchdown and that big 137 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 3: play at the end. And it is a little disturbing 138 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: because I didn't like some of the decisions or the 139 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: lack of timely decision making, and yeah, it was hard 140 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: to get open, and yeah, that Rams front is tough. 141 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: Look at the Rams, Kyler against the Rams. 142 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 3: And the Cardinals, you know, just in general, I mean 143 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: Kyler now, I mean I saw the stat going into 144 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: the game one and seven. Obviously he's not the only one. 145 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: It's a team game, but they fall to one in 146 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: eight in those games. And look, I asked Kyler after 147 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: the game about Aaron Donald. It doesn't all come down 148 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 3: to Aaron Donald. Kobe Turner had a couple of sacks 149 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 3: in the middle there, but they do have a good front. 150 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: It just seems to be a matchup that the Cardinals 151 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: cannot seem to get over the hump with. And I 152 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: think it does start with Aaron Donald and it does 153 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: start with just all the disruption. 154 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: That happens with the line. 155 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: But we know about the insufficient you know, some problems 156 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: with the O line. We know that you know, you 157 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: don't have Michael Wilson out there, so you don't have 158 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: your full compliment of receivers. And yet I felt like 159 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: there were plays to be made and I felt that 160 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: Kyler is still growing. That's something that we're learning, We're 161 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: seeing it, and I think it's been more validated over 162 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: the last two weeks, but especially this week because we've 163 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 3: all felt pretty different after the Atlanta game. But as 164 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: we know, every week is different and every week is 165 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: a new challenge, and the Rams are a tough challenge 166 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: for this team. 167 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 4: They definitely are. And Sean mcvays has had the Cardinals 168 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 4: number thirteen and two against the Cardinals including the playoffs, 169 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: twelve and two in the regular season. That is and 170 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: I think that, to go back to your word, is 171 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: it discouraging. It's a discouraging performance. But I don't think 172 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 4: because how well this team has played all season long, 173 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: by having so much effort and energy. That's why I 174 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: wouldn't necessarily look at it as discouraging and just put 175 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 4: a label on it as that because of the fact 176 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: that this could just be a one off. There could 177 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: be a lot of things. And I think it goes 178 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: back to your point, Jody about Kyler's still maturing a 179 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: little bit. He's still learning this offense. This was only 180 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 4: his third game, and obviously I recognize the fact that 181 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: he comes in a week ten and you go into 182 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: expecting like, Okay, we have the sample sides of Kyler Murray, 183 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: and that's what we have until the draft process begins. 184 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: But I think when you start looking at it in 185 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: that sense, in that lens, you already start to look 186 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 4: towards next year and not focusing on the right now. 187 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: If you're focusing on the right now, Kyler Murray has 188 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: brought a big boost to this team in terms of energy. 189 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: Everybody has talked about it. The culture has been different. 190 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 4: One game. When you have a running back like Kyron 191 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: Williams and Matthew Stafford that was playing lights oule football, 192 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: that could be a discouraging performance, but I wouldn't label 193 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: discouraging as the overall theme. 194 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: The vibes have been different since Kyler Murray even came 195 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: back to practice, not just stepping onto the field. There's 196 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: parts of this offense that Kyler is having to adjust to, 197 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: not just the play action and playing under center more 198 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: than he has in his career. It's also the footwork, 199 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: those details. What this coaching staff is really asking Kyler 200 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: to do differently, and that's going to affect the way 201 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: that he's playing these first couple of games, is understanding 202 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: those details and those changes and not going back to 203 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: what he knows, what he's known at this point in 204 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: his careers. 205 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 4: And he's caught himself sometimes doing those bad habits as 206 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 4: he referred to it. And you do have points where 207 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 4: you can have that dirty feet which you're able to 208 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 4: just get out the pocket. Your footwork might not fully 209 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 4: be there, but your natural skill set will ultimately allow 210 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 4: you to get some extra additional yardage. But he's caught 211 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 4: himself because before it was left foot up. Now it's 212 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 4: right foot up or vice versa, based off the previous 213 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 4: schemes in the previous systems that Kyler has played, and 214 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 4: that is a big difference, especially for a guy like Kyler, 215 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: who who is as detailed oriented as he is. A 216 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: minor detail like that just before you start to play 217 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: with your left foot up and your right foot down 218 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: as a to it being right foot up, left foot down. 219 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: Over the years, that makes a drastic difference. And sometimes 220 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: when you sit back there in the pocket and you're 221 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: in your head because you're questioning is my left foot 222 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: up or my right foot up? What is it? That 223 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 4: could ultimately deter you from what's actually the task at hand. 224 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting Danny brought up the boost that 225 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 3: he brings, and you both have talked about that. He 226 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: does bring a boost, and a lot of times it 227 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: is because of that ability to scramble and make a 228 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: play through the air or to run. The problem with 229 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 3: yesterday was and in many games against the Rams, frankly, 230 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 3: he's not really running. He's not able to make those 231 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: plays with his legs, and so I think it can 232 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 3: also work against you. The obvious thing is, and you 233 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 3: talked about all the mechanical changes. I think we all 234 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: agree he's going through a lot we didn't maybe you know, again, 235 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: you get the win against Atlanta. Wins always make everything 236 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: look great and then losses make everything look a lot worse. 237 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: But similarly to that boost that he provides because he can, 238 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: you know, have the Murray magic moments, when he doesn't, 239 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: I think that again goes back to how this game 240 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: got drained of the energy and we know the defense 241 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: didn't play very well and that combined was tough. But yeah, 242 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: when he's not doing those things, that similarly sucks the 243 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: life out of the team. 244 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: A little bit. 245 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: It wasn't just Kyler that couldn't get the run game going. 246 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Running Back James Connor had a season low twenty seven 247 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: rushing yards against a Rams defense that finished with four sacks, 248 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: six tackles for lost, six quarterback hits. More than just 249 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: defensive lineman Aaron Donald. That was a group effort, Jody. 250 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: The blocking from the offensive line wasn't up to the 251 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: standards that we've seen against big pass rushers and strong 252 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: stout defensive lines throughout the season. 253 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it really wasn't. 254 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: And you know, again this matchup has not been great, 255 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: but if you look at the talent, we know there's 256 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: some patchwork being done on the O line. However, it 257 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: was not what we've been expecting. To see and they 258 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: even made a change. I believe O'Donnell left the game 259 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: and Cologne came in, and you know, and that speaks 260 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: to another thing between the defensive backfield and the O line. 261 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: When you're still having guys battle in week what week 262 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: are we in? We're in week twelve. 263 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: It's hard to remind myself. 264 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: That does tell you that, look, you're you're still sifting 265 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: through the talent pool here, and that's not ideal. But 266 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: again that's this is a team that is building for 267 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: the future, and we know that. But you're right, Danny, 268 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 3: it wasn't and and when you don't have that with 269 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: the O line, you know. 270 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 2: And the thing that made me. 271 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 3: Really look a little closer at Kyler's performance is how 272 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 3: difficult it really is to evaluate a quarterback when the 273 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: O line's not playing well. When they're playing well, you 274 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 3: can get a better sense. But that is also life 275 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: in the NFL, and you have to account for those 276 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: days when you're gonna have that tougher matchup. And I 277 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: thought back to when the Cardinals brought in Rodney Hudson 278 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: to increase Kyler's comfort level, and it did work. 279 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: It worked for a. 280 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: While, and obviously Rodney Hudson had injury problems. But you know, 281 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 3: that is the balance, and I think that's what everyone's 282 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: trying to figure out, is how do you make these evaluations, Zach, 283 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: when things are not going well, when you don't have 284 00:12:59,320 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: the running I do. 285 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: They did go away from the running game. That hurt 286 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: the passing game as well. 287 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: But that's the challenge over the next few weeks is 288 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: to be able to balance that. 289 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 4: It definitely is And you mentioned Colonne and Carter O'Donnell. 290 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 4: Those two specifically, they joined after the fifty three man 291 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: roster cuts and they were they were the Cardinals were 292 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: awarded their waiver claims. A lot of players that have 293 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: been making an impact. Darling Thomas another one of those players. 294 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: Elijah Higgins another one of those players that was brought 295 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: in after the fifty three man cuts that ultimately they 296 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: were that they were brought in through the waiver claims. 297 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 4: Same with Michael Carter who got some snaps. These are 298 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: players that played a pivotal role, or I shouldn't say pivotal, 299 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: I'm the offensive line. You can say pivotal. Michael Carter 300 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 4: did get a handful of snaps in his first action 301 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: within you know that our Arizona Cardinals, I guess you 302 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: could say black uniform now instead of the red ones. 303 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 4: But in terms of Carter O'Donnell Interests and Colonne and 304 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: Elijah Higgins, these are guys that you've had to throw 305 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: into the mix because of injuries or whatever it might be. 306 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: Trey McBride was not nearly as much of a factor, 307 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 4: so you try utilizing Elijah Higgins, who got his first 308 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: career start in this game. And just in a lot 309 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 4: of different facets, this is still a coaching staff that 310 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 4: is still learning to evaluate players from a head coaching 311 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator standpoint, because none of those three 312 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: have had those roles before and now you're still learning 313 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: and it's all going to be a process. And I 314 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 4: recognize in a daylight today when Carolina fires, you know, 315 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: Frank Reichen, they're one to ten. I guess a lot 316 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: of the talk could be about, oh, coaches, first year, 317 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: first season, how do you evaluate them? I think this 318 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: coaching staff, Johnathangan and Drew Pets and Nick Rolis have 319 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: done a great job of valuating talent because you've been 320 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 4: able to find hidden gems like Starlin Thomas, Amari de 321 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: Mericado undrafted guys that have truly been making an impact, Fanny. 322 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: This coaching staff has gotten the most out of their players, 323 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, undrafted rookies rather and free agents. It 324 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: was a lackluster performance by Arizona's defense. They gave up 325 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty seven yards, allowed five touchdowns for 326 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: the first time all season, not a single sack. LA 327 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: picked up right where they left off in Week six, 328 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: running the ball two hundred and twenty eight rushing yards 329 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: to the Rams, majority of those coming from running back 330 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: Kyron Williams, who also had two receiving touchdowns. Zach, why 331 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: so much trouble closing the gaps? 332 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: I think that's the thing, that's the million dollar question. 333 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 4: A big part of it is because of the defensive line. 334 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: A lot of different injuries out there, and that's been 335 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: the theme over there, and the defensive line has been 336 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: the injuries. But not having Kevin Strong in this game 337 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: to go alongside Jonathan Ledbetter that hurts, I know. Buddha 338 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 4: Baker said postgame that the most disappointing part of this 339 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: one is the fact that you weren't able to stop 340 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: the run. That's always the first thing that you're able 341 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: to look at and when you know the type of performance, 342 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: as I previously alluded to the type of performance that 343 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: Kien Williams had in Week six where he ran for 344 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty four yards in the second half, 345 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: you knew that they were going to go into this 346 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: one continuing that momentum, especially with a Cooper Cup who 347 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: is also coming off the injury going into this game. 348 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: Puka Nakula also on the injury report going into this one. 349 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 4: I mean two two at well was their top wide 350 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: receiver for them, and to have Kyra and Williams to 351 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: go in and just pick up exactly where he left 352 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: off in Week six, that's been the most disappointing part 353 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: of it when it comes to the gap though, it's 354 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 4: the injury bugging. I know that Jonathan Gannon said postgame 355 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: that it's not an excuse, but from an outsider's perspective, 356 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 4: you can look at it and you could recognize the 357 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: fact that you don't have your top guys out there. 358 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned Kevin Strong, He's been a big part 359 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: of this defensive line and you didn't have him. I 360 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: know Ledbetter's been battling through some injuries, was still out there, 361 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: and then it was the first full game without Kaizier 362 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: White and you know, again this just continues to pile up. 363 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: We've seen it time and time again. We saw Marco 364 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: Wilson not playing this game. He's going to be battling, 365 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: according to coach Gannon, you know, battling for playing time. 366 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: They wanted to see the guys in there, and he 367 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 3: said after the game, we thought these these other guys 368 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: gave them the best chance to win. So again, guys 369 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: like Kean to Ingram, Marco Wilson, they're still battling for spots. 370 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: So again it goes back to the talent and. 371 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: The role players. 372 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: But defensively, the thing that became disturbing, especially as the 373 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: game more on, was just the lack of tackling. 374 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: And again they were on the field quite a bit. 375 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: There was still when the offense not being able to 376 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: get anything going. But so you hated to see that. 377 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: And yeah, Kien Williams, he clearly loves to play against 378 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: the Cardinals. He was back and healthy, and there were 379 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: a couple of moments in the game because he was 380 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: running the ball and then Matthew Stafford would also swing 381 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: it out to him and he was part of the 382 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 3: screen game as well, And I'm thinking this kind of 383 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: looks like a two man game at this point. They 384 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: were just getting a lot done just between Matthew Stafford 385 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: and Kien Williams. And yeah, it wasn't as much a 386 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 3: game for Cup who was battling the ankle and Puka 387 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: Nakua at while Higbee had a big game. They looked 388 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: like the Tyler Habee from a few years ago, so 389 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: that was always a problematic matchup also for the Cardinals. 390 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, defensively, definitely want to flush this one. This 391 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: is a team, a defense that's been built on scheme 392 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: and effort. I know Matthew Stafford said after the game. 393 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: They were daring us not to throw downfield. That was 394 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 3: the look, and that's not a bad if you're Nick Rowlis, 395 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 3: is not a bad decision to go with that and 396 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 3: have them try to take everything underneath dink and dunk. 397 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: But the dinking and dunking. 398 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 3: Worked a little bit better than expected, and so that 399 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 3: was what we saw. 400 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 2: The Rams kind of carving up the defense a bit. 401 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 1: Part of the reason La didn't have to go for 402 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: those deep shots Jodie is because they've found a lot 403 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: of success running the ball. It was the worst rushing 404 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: performance by the Cardinals defense all year, who allowed runs 405 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: of fifty six, twenty four and twenty three yards. That 406 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: is where you really notice the loss of Kaiser White, 407 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: who's on ir with that biceps injury. 408 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: Well, that that fifty six yard run by Karen Williams 409 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: was just hard to watch because he got through a 410 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: layer of bodies, you know, and there were some bodies 411 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: in there that maybe could have made that tackle, gotten 412 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: a hand on him and brought him down. But on 413 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: the other side, the Rams were playing really well that 414 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: you could tell they were feeling it. Kien Williams was 415 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: not going down easily, and so you know, that was 416 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: one play that is going to be cringey to watch 417 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 3: on film when these guys are correcting things today and 418 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 3: looking forward to the next week. But again, that's a 419 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: play that has to be made. Can't let him break 420 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: free for fifty six yards, especially when you have a 421 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: number of guys in that first layer. And yeah, there 422 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: were other times that tackles were missed. There were other 423 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: coverages that just weren't quite as good. And when you 424 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: do have young players playing on the back end, that 425 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: will happen but you know they'll learn from it. All 426 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: of this just has to be chalked up to a 427 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: learning experience. And I think again you kind of quickly 428 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 3: mentioned the panther zacha. I mean the difference here is 429 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: that I think there's a lot of good that we've 430 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 3: been seeing. There's a lot of trust, and there's a 431 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: lot of belief in what this coaching staff is doing. 432 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 3: And I think that's the difference is when you can 433 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 3: have a game like yesterday and there's still some positivity, 434 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: there's still I mean, they don't like it by any means, 435 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: but there's still a good feeling in there that we 436 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 3: need to trust this process and it's going to get better. 437 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 4: And I think that trusting the process is exactly what 438 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: that they exactly what the Cardinals are because everybody went 439 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 4: into this year recognizing that this isn't a one year, 440 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: this is going to be your final product. Let's start 441 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: looking at next year. This has all been a progress 442 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: and to see from week one to week twelve, to 443 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 4: see the type of results. Although the results in the 444 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 4: winning loss column might not tell the full story, there 445 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 4: have been tons of growth and a lot of different 446 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: people have stepped up, and that kind of shows the 447 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: impact going back a little bit to Kaiser White, when 448 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 4: you have a new guy that could come into the system. 449 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 4: I came in during free agency with Johnathangannon and Nick 450 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: Rollis from Philadelphia, was in Nick Rollis' linebacker room and 451 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 4: the Eagles to come in here and to make it 452 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 4: impact and really rally the troops, and you could see 453 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: the type of difference. That's what thirteen fourteen to fifteen 454 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: weeks including trading camp, that's the type of impact that 455 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: it makes, and that is a huge difference. And to 456 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: go back a little bit to the explosive place John 457 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 4: Deangannisa's week in and week out, I think it's at 458 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: nauseum to a certain extent that the exposed to play 459 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 4: battle is either what's gonna make you win games, as 460 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 4: though either what's gonna make you lose games. In this 461 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: case the Cardinals loss, and I recognize that they said 462 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 4: that they're not going to try to chuck the ball 463 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: down deep, especially when you have a guy like Buddha 464 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: Baker or Jalen Thompson went back to back games with 465 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: the interception. The explosive plays are also limited when you 466 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 4: don't allow like the big time explosive plays. When you 467 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 4: give up a twenty yard game, that's a lot better 468 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 4: than giving up a fifty yard long ball. 469 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Your entire secondary, your cornerbacks, at least, were rookies. It 470 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: was Marco Wilson who sat out for the first time 471 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: this season, didn't play a single defensive snap after playing 472 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of them through Week seven. It was 473 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Kee Trell Clark and Starling Thomas who got the start, 474 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: and after Thomas hurt his ankle, rookie Devad Wilson went 475 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: in and in his place, not Marco Wilson, and Devad 476 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: Wilson was elevated from the practice squad this week and 477 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: it was a two of them paired with Garrett Williams Jody. 478 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: We heard from JG that Marco Wilson is fighting. He's 479 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: battling for playing time right now. To go from playing 480 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the steps to not a single 481 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: one on defense, what do you treat with that time? 482 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: I think it's the last few weeks, you know, and 483 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: the tough we see the catch percentage and just the 484 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: quarterback rating against and all of these things, and it's 485 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: to help Marco Wilson. 486 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 2: It's it's not to punish him. 487 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: It's to help him get better, maybe take a breather, 488 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: be able to go back to the drawing board a 489 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 3: little bit. He's fighting out there. We saw Key Trel Clark. 490 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: Now Marco obviously is a veteran, but Key Trell Clark 491 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: was in that position the first few weeks. He was 492 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 3: playing a lot and you know, he basically needed to 493 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 3: take that break. And this is a situation where you know, 494 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: hopefully Marco Wilson can find his game, but he's battling 495 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: right now because when you don't have success, and I 496 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: feel like they gave him a pretty long leash, you know, 497 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 3: I mean, they gave him a situation where it's a 498 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: cornerback role, right, you have to have that short memory. 499 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 3: You're gonna give up plays. But when you give up 500 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: plays time and time again, it's a chance to look 501 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: at some other guys, guys that JG said they felt 502 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: they were giving getting the best chance. So it was 503 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: Vod Wilson, and it was Garrett Williams out there, and 504 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: was you know, Starling Thomas. Obviously, with not coming back 505 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: in the game, that tells me he's probably gonna not 506 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: be available. You know, if you were weren't able to 507 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: go in this one unless it's a miraculous comeback next 508 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: week against Pittsburgh. 509 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: But injuries have taken their toll. 510 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 3: The youth is there, but again it also hopefully will 511 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: light a fire for Marco because we've seen, you know, 512 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: Marco's talent, what he can do. And again, it's all 513 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 3: part of this evaluation, Zach. That is kind of a 514 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's a lofty one for this organization. 515 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: We knew that going in. 516 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 4: It goes down to the accountability aspect of it. And 517 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: I appreciate the fact that if john Tha Ganna did 518 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 4: not feel that Marco Wilson was playing to the level 519 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 4: that he would have hoped for, and obviously we know 520 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 4: that da cornerback position has a special place in JG's heart. 521 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 4: If JG did not feel he was playing to the 522 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: level that he expects him to, I appreciate the fact that, 523 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 4: regardless of the fact that you started one hundred percent 524 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 4: of the snaps, if the standard is the standard, and 525 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: if you're not mean the standard, the sidelines is where 526 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: you're ultimately going to end up going. And Key trol 527 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: Clark struggled a little bit. He was one of those 528 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: players that was on the sideline and it was just 529 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: a matter of Nick Rolis spoke about, I gave Key 530 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 4: Trell a handful of things that he has to work on. 531 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 4: Clearly he worked on them because he was able to 532 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 4: get on the field on Sunday. 533 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals were also without cornerback Antonio Hamilton, who was dealing 534 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: with a groin injury from the previous game in Houston. However, 535 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: Hamilton was warming up out on the field prior to kickoff, 536 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: so that's a good sign moving forward for him. The 537 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: Cardinals were two for three on fourth down Sunday. The 538 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: one they were not successful with was pretty costly for them. Jody, 539 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: take us back to the end of the first half 540 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: for your turning point. 541 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is my turning point. First of all, the 542 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: decision to go on fourth and two is an interesting one. 543 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 3: Of course, you know the other option being punt right 544 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: there and play some defense, although you know, we know 545 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 3: the defense was struggling. I think again, it was a 546 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 3: test to see could this offense convert on that fourth 547 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 3: and two play. It was a pass play to train McBride, 548 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 3: and it was incomplete. It was well defended, and it 549 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 3: was incomplete, and it did hurt because you don't make 550 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: that fourth and two, and sure enough, on the short field, 551 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford took his team down and scored another touchdown, 552 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: but it was fourteen to eight when they went forward 553 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: on fourth and two, and again you do put the 554 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 3: microscope under these plays. But this was the situation where 555 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: I would have liked to see Kyler Murray make a 556 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 3: better decision. Trey McBride had a defensive lineman kind of 557 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: floating in front of him, He had a defender on him. 558 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: You had some other options. 559 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: You had James Connor kind of out in front of 560 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: McBride there, you had potentially Rondel Moore or maybe just 561 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: try to get the two yards with your legs. 562 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: So again another. 563 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: Situation where and it's just one play, I know that, 564 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 3: but the decision making for me came into play through 565 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 3: the ball a little bit late. Trey McBride's making that break. 566 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: You got to throw it before he's in that spot. 567 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 3: And again more maturation for Kyler Murray in a big 568 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: spot fourth and two. Later in the game, fourth and six, 569 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 3: they decided to go ahead and kick. So that's the 570 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: decision making, is what it is. I'm just going to 571 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: evaluate it on what did they do on the fourth 572 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 3: and two, and I guess they felled against that front. 573 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 3: They weren't getting a lot of push, so I don't 574 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: think a running play was going to be a great option. 575 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: I agree with the decision to pass it, but I 576 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 3: think it is a little bit telling again on the 577 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 3: progression of Kyler Murray and making a better decision there. 578 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: I think it also goes into your trust and your receivers. 579 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 4: And I mean James Connor did have that flat rot 580 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: where he was about three four yards in and we've 581 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: seen something. To go back a little bit, I know 582 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 4: I'm going a little bit off track here, but to 583 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 4: go to the throw specifically, the previous week against Houston, 584 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 4: they went for it on fourth down and they were 585 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: so they were they were not far enough beyond the sticks. 586 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 4: I appreciated the fact that we were looking a little 587 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: bit deeper in this case because we have struggled to 588 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals, that is of going forward on fourth down 589 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 4: and passing beyond the sticks, passing beyond that first down marker. 590 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 4: So that was a little bit more encouraging. 591 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw doorsch on the fourth and three not 592 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 2: go past the stick. 593 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 4: Exactly and we were able to We've seen that and 594 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: that's happened in previous weeks as well, dating back to 595 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: the beginning half of the season. Fourth down. I mean, 596 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 4: now you're eight for twenty five I believe it is 597 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: on fourth down conversions this year. That's not a good 598 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 4: number by any stretch in imagination. But you did have 599 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 4: ron Dell Moore on that crossing route. You did have 600 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 4: James Connor on that flat route. You do have a 601 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 4: reliable target in Trey McBride, But Los Angeles knows that 602 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 4: he's your reliable target. And when he's the one on 603 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: that side of the field, unless you are hitting James 604 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 4: connor on that flat route, Trey McBride's going to be 605 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 4: your likely target. But to go off with the aggressiveness, 606 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: I appreciate the aggressive this and shout out to Blake 607 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 4: Gilikin and Jeff Rodgers on that fourth down, that punt 608 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 4: trick play that Blake Gillikin was able to rush for. 609 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 4: Kind of crazy that Blake Gillikin had more rushing yards 610 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: than Kyler Murray. I think that that's kind of the 611 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: most unique stat of the game. 612 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: Let's pull out the White Birds for songbirds choosing a 613 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: song that encapsulates how you were feeling watching the game 614 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: or how you're feeling on this lovely Monday morning. I 615 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: really thought that Zach and I were going to have 616 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: solar music taste. So I'm hoping you this is the 617 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: song you changed to. 618 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 4: I did switch my song as I was sitting in 619 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: this chair. Yeah, I did, because I swore my song. 620 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 4: It was, it was what it was. My song. It 621 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: was called Confused, and I felt like that was too 622 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 4: close to just a standard emotion, so we don't want 623 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 4: a different one. 624 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: I know it doesn't always reflect the music taste, but 625 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: then it kind of does. As I think back to 626 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 2: this is probably a song. This is a song that 627 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to know when you guys are probably not, 628 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: although it's been in some it's been in some pop 629 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: culture things, because I don't know. We'll see, we'll find out. 630 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: Let's see, Jody Okay. 631 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, I thought kind of long and hard about 632 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: this one, and I came I came up with this, 633 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: holding Out for a Hero Bonnie Tyler. 634 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: Also Total Eclipse of the Heart. It was another great 635 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: song by. 636 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: I know that song. I'm pretty sure I know that 637 00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: song because isn't it intrack? 638 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: I think so. It's like a lot of secure here. 639 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: I mean I should know this, but a lot of 640 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 3: superhero related themes. And why I ended up coming up 641 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: with this was and I'm not just pointing at Kyler, 642 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: but just they needed a couple of guys to make 643 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: some plays, especially early in the game. This team needs 644 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: a hero, it needs a multitude of them. Obviously that's 645 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: what they're dealing with at a two to ten mark 646 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: on the season. But I think that's what they're looking for. 647 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: That's what the processes of evaluating this team, everyone on 648 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: the team. 649 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: Everyone. 650 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: We're talking about every position, but of course including the quarterback, 651 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: because the quarterback can make plays that change the entire 652 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: feeling in the game. And so holding out for that 653 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: hero mode and hopefully we see it next week against Pittsburgh. 654 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 4: You definitely are gonna need a hero, especially somebody to 655 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: step up on that offensive side when you're gonna be 656 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 4: going against a TJ. Watt, because he has been a 657 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: menace all season long back there for Pittsburgh. In that 658 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 4: Black and Yellow, I went once again, I had to 659 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 4: switch up the song. I went with where Are You Now? 660 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: By Justin Bieber and by the you, I kind of 661 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: take that a little bit more metaphorically and hypothetically, you 662 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 4: being the energy, you being the players on the field, 663 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: Where are you going to be because although your record 664 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: and you might not be fighting for a playoff spot anymore. 665 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 4: I know I said last week that mathematically we're still 666 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 4: in it. Fortunately the Cardinals are no longer still in 667 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 4: it mathematically, but it's a matter of what are you 668 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: going to do now and who is going to be 669 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 4: kind of off that person? Where are you who is 670 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: going to step up? And that energy? You gotta be 671 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: able to find it so that you could kind of 672 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: be taken for multiple different ways. 673 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: That it was the you like my Miami alma mater, 674 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: the you you. 675 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: I'll do that love. 676 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 2: Now I'm asking where they are too, Danny take. 677 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: It away before we start talking about college football. 678 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: I went with no more Parties in LA by Kanye West. 679 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: That's why I thought in LA. 680 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: I know, I know. 681 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: This is because the Cardinals are done playing the Rams 682 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: this year, which seems to be good news for Arizona 683 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: considering LA has had their number the last couple of years. 684 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: The Cardinals still have two more Division games, home games 685 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: against San Francisco and Seattle Cardinals just haven't been able 686 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: to do what they need to against the Rams the 687 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: last couple of meetings, and so it feels like good 688 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: news that Kyron Williams the run game. The Rams are 689 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: done for the season against the Cardinals. 690 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: It's kind of one of those like see you next year, 691 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: but hopefully not type situation. 692 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a great summer, Yeah exactly. 693 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 4: And you got to hope that you know that that 694 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 4: record that Sean McVay has against the Cardinals, although it 695 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: is just two times you play in the year, that 696 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 4: is hurtful. And Aaron Donald spoke postgame and he said, 697 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 4: I've come to Arizona, I've played there for about nine 698 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: ten years against them, and I don't believe I've lost. 699 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: And I'm not sure if that I have to look 700 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 4: back to see if those two losses in Sean mcvay's 701 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 4: tenure were in Arizona. But that does make a big 702 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: difference when players are going into this believing that that's 703 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: the case, because clearly you don't want that to be 704 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 4: the case. And I think that that's something. DJ Humphrey 705 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: spoke on the importance it's a divisional opponent. This is 706 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 4: a rivalry game, and going into a next year, you 707 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 4: got to hope that, you know, you start to switching around, 708 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 4: but you do got two more cracks at divisional opponents, 709 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 4: and they're both at home, so it'll be a good one. 710 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: And the other thing that hurt was just the playoffs. 711 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 3: I remember the excitement around town and the excitement of 712 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: playing in a playoff game again for the Arizona Cardinals 713 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: and then to fall flat there in La was and 714 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: the way that they lost that game was just incredibly disappointing. 715 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 3: And so yeah, the Rams have been to say, thorn 716 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: in the side is an understatement, but yeah, something they're 717 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: gonna want to get corrected over the next year or two. 718 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: For sure. 719 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals will turn the page before traveling to Pittsburgh to 720 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: face the seven and four Steelers, final game before the 721 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: bye week. Morning Scramble will be here next week after 722 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: that matchup ten am live on our official YouTube channel, 723 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: So we hope you join us then. For Joni Jackson 724 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: and Zach Gershman, I'm Danny StrEG. Thanks so much for 725 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: joining us here on Morning scrimb. But we'll catch all 726 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: right here next week.