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Speaker 5: This week's guest is Anat Sassia probably a Chenkova.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good, right?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 6: They did you practice?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 5: I did because I was editing the audio and I

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Speaker 4: Yes from me, she got one.

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Speaker 6: She gone well done. That was impressive. I'm super impressive.

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Speaker 6: I just call a.

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Speaker 5: Nastia Nastia Nasty pads as she goes by on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: What a character.

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Speaker 6: She's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: You know the great thing about doing these pods for

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Speaker 6: them as people. And you know, my goal and our

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Speaker 6: happy to say that we heard and we got a

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Speaker 6: lot of Nastia today with her just honest about her life,

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Speaker 5: Great ideas about what to do with her career after

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Speaker 5: she's done, but she's far from done, because she still

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Speaker 5: has some very very big goals. One thing I learned,

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Speaker 5: one thing I've learned kind of all season, I would

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Speaker 4: It is tough, Like no.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, Yeah, well, I think, you know, obviously we had

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Speaker 6: Setlana kuznettes Ofva and we had Arena Sabalinka, but they

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Speaker 6: you know, seem to be quite a very good positive

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Speaker 6: line tone to a lot of Russian tennis players is

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Speaker 6: there's not a lot of like happy sort of like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well better than than me. Because Nastia has handled it.

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Speaker 5: She's turned into a hilariously funny person, also a leader

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Speaker 2: Hopefully more to come when we get back to the courts.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she had her best result in Australia. She had

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Speaker 4: That's the Russian that's the Russian pronunciation. But you you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been absolutely crazy, because, first of all, it's

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Speaker 4: I start from there when we arrived the Linda and Worlds,

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Speaker 3: Then I will never forget that day when I was

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Speaker 4: Like since since when does she watched in my practice?

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Speaker 3: But like I'm okay, you know, and then she grabbed me,

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Speaker 6: What was that meeting like? Because I remember being there,

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Speaker 3: Like, well, first of all, because nobody was prepared for this,

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Speaker 4: And do you know how many things went through my head?

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Speaker 4: I don't know, is there a bomb on Center Court.

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Speaker 3: So I had hundreds of different scenarios in my head.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. We were all waiting for Miami, but

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Speaker 4: You know, That's like and then NBA we're also thinking

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Speaker 3: And what is actually amazing, I've never been injured for

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Speaker 4: You Like exactly, that's a good that's a good thing

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Speaker 5: Well, I want to ask you a lot about that

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Speaker 5: because your social media has been amazing to watch. You've

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Speaker 3: But like people tell me, oh, you've got a big

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Speaker 4: The I just recently went like baby pink with my hair.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, what do you think about it? You're gonna

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Speaker 4: No, not at all, Like he doesn't care at all

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Speaker 3: We are really close when we see each other and

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Speaker 3: And you know, he's very special, like he's from another

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Speaker 5: I was talking to Radka or photographer who got to

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Speaker 6: So you've got now approximately probably six more months to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just make a little.

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Speaker 4: And we're still inside. You know, I just hope it's

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Speaker 3: That's not how that's not how I wanted to start

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So first of all, and I hired him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Oh and I should definite curse on this podcast, So

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we get drop the problem gets hipped on the

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Speaker 4: Fuck, thanks God, you's so me fucking Let's go carry on,

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Speaker 6: One of the things that I saw that you had

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Speaker 6: and obviously was a player for a long time. And

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Speaker 6: I hate when coaches say we or you know, they

442
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Speaker 6: make it about themselves. This is about Sure, the coach

443
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 6: can make a huge difference, but the players the one

444
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 6: that has to do the work and do what you've

445
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Speaker 6: asked them. And so I think that was one thing

446
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Speaker 6: that I read that you quoted about saying.

447
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I did say that, And it's not only towards him,

448
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Speaker 3: but like in general, there are a lot of coaches

449
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Speaker 3: out there like this, and I just hate this in people.

450
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Speaker 3: Also in general. I don't think it's normal because I,

451
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Speaker 3: as I said, I think the whole team, whether it's

452
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Speaker 3: tennis coach, fitness coach, a mental coach, you know, anybody

453
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Speaker 3: that seem they need to work for the player to

454
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Speaker 3: achieve what they want. They all discuss what they set

455
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Speaker 3: up the goals, and they work for it towards and

456
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Speaker 3: they help and support where they don't try to put

457
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 3: put the player down or destroy the play or you know.

458
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Speaker 3: So that's that's simple.

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 6: I mean, for me, it's like such an important thing.

461
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Speaker 6: I think what you're saying is that you want to

462
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Speaker 6: work hard, you want to do everything that they ask

463
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Speaker 6: of you. But in the end, you want somebody who's

464
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Speaker 6: going to be see the glasses half full and to

465
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 6: try and push you to be better, but to actually

466
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Speaker 6: make you socially like have a life as well, like

467
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 6: a good not a good life, not like partying, but

468
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Speaker 6: you want them to actually enjoy working hard every time

469
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Speaker 6: and have that good energy with you.

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Speaker 3: I do believe that every person and everywhere is very individual,

471
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Speaker 3: and the problem comes.

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Speaker 4: I think that some coaches, they used to do.

473
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Speaker 3: Their work in a particular way, and they do it

474
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Speaker 3: with everybody in the same way. And I hate this,

475
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Speaker 3: and I don't think it should be like that, because

476
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Speaker 3: everybody is absolutely different personality, physically, and so.

477
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Speaker 4: You can't just you know, you've got to adjust.

478
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Speaker 3: You have to chast not the player, because this is

479
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: how I play, this is how and I'm.

480
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Speaker 4: Doing twenty four seven. I wake up and I try hard,

481
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Speaker 4: and I want to improve and it's obvious and you

482
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Speaker 4: know that.

483
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Speaker 3: So so I'm doing everything that you ask me for.

484
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: But you know, you gotta think a little and you know,

485
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Speaker 3: I chast a little more to me and try to

486
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Speaker 3: help me, you know so. And yeah, because maybe sometimes

487
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Speaker 3: because of that ego ego, you don't see that that stuff.

488
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Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know.

489
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Speaker 6: Well, this is my last thing I'm gonna say on it,

490
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Speaker 6: because I think it's super important you point that out

491
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Speaker 6: that every player is individually different with their personality, and

492
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Speaker 6: you have to as a coach, because I've had to

493
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Speaker 6: do this adjust to those different personalities. One might be

494
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 6: getting someone to see the glasses how full. One might

495
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Speaker 6: be getting to see the player realize that their glass

496
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Speaker 6: isn't quite as fall as I think it is, you know,

497
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Speaker 6: and sort of push them in different ways. But also

498
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Speaker 6: I know you and I'm I've always, you know, pulled

499
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 6: for you. I've always hoped that you've done well. And

500
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Speaker 6: I have to say when you turned up with Sam

501
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 6: and I was like, because I'm not a big fan,

502
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 6: so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. I mean,

503
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Speaker 6: I'm kind of happy.

504
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Speaker 5: Now.

505
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Speaker 6: I just hope you find a coach that pushes you

506
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Speaker 6: to be great when you come back.

507
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just had to.

508
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give one example because I also I worked

509
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 3: with the titter Kindleman. He was my coach right after

510
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: he stopped with Maria Sharapor. He was with her for

511
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: three years being her sparring and then my agent called

512
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 3: me up and said, Okay, you're looking for a coach,

513
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: He's available now, so try it out. And he wants

514
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Speaker 3: to be a coach now. So I was his first

515
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,959
Speaker 3: player that he coached. And then what happened was started

516
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: in April and then during friend shop and he would

517
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: almost lug me down at the hotel and we would

518
00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: practice every morning at eight am offside, so two hours,

519
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 3: grinding like crazy, and then he's like, okay, now you

520
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 3: eat and you go back to the hotel. I'm going

521
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: to stay at the courts. You stay there the whole

522
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Speaker 3: day and we're.

523
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Speaker 4: Gonna meet up for dinner.

524
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Speaker 3: And I'm like okay, So one day, two days, three days,

525
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: and then you know, it's like right now, I'm on

526
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Speaker 3: a lockdown.

527
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Speaker 4: That's how I felt by then.

528
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: So I al really had the experience, and I'm like,

529
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I mentally, I mentally can't do this.

530
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: And and there are a few exercises that Mario was

531
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Speaker 3: doing with all my respect and we're actually good friends

532
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: with her, but like I just basically don't think I

533
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: should do it and I can't do it. And but

534
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 3: but then what's the problem is that how he reacts

535
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Speaker 3: to this.

536
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Speaker 4: He then he starts to accuse.

537
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Speaker 3: Me that I'm overweight, I'm lazy, you know this is

538
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: and so that was him, and you know another coach similar.

539
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: That's what I don't like. And I have no problem

540
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: to work hard. But again, because I'm not Maria.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is like this is like tinder or

542
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 6: like tinder for like coaches, it's just like you gotta

543
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 6: swipe the right way.

544
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Speaker 4: Man.

545
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Speaker 5: Come on, well, I think there is a lot with

546
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 5: your worldview, you know. I think some people and I

547
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: think it is about ego, and I think for some people,

548
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 5: all they want to do is make a player follow

549
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: a particular plan or have their way be the most important.

550
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Speaker 5: But what's amazing to me is the more we talk

551
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 5: to players on this show, and obviously what our magazine

552
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Speaker 5: is a lot about is talking about the humanity of

553
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 5: the players a lot more than people who are machines

554
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 5: who go and hit tennis balls. And it's always a

555
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Speaker 5: delight to me when we talk to somebody who feels

556
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 5: constrained by too much structure, somebody like Lena who doesn't

557
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 5: want to take the funding from the state and do

558
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Speaker 5: exactly what her coaches say because she knows that that's

559
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 5: not how she's going to play the best. And what

560
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 5: you're talking about and what you described is understanding how

561
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 5: people are special is really meaningful because it means that

562
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 5: their success looks like a lot of different things, but

563
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 5: it has to be fueled by joy and by engagement.

564
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Speaker 5: And you can't beat somebody into submission and make them

565
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Speaker 5: Maybe you can make them a champion, but you certainly

566
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 5: can't make them a happy person by doing that. And

567
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Speaker 5: I always like when players understand that seem to get it.

568
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I do believe in nowadays or like in

569
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 3: the world, anything you do you have to be happy

570
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 3: and sure what you're doing, otherwise you're not going to

571
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Speaker 3: get any results out of it.

572
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Speaker 4: And maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not going to regret it.

573
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Speaker 3: Maybe I, like people said, maybe I bound like I

574
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: didn't take the best coaches up because of my whatever personality,

575
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Speaker 3: but I just I can't when I think this is great.

576
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: But I have this luxury of choosing with whom I

577
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: want to hang out with, whom I want to spend

578
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 3: time work out who and who I want to practice with,

579
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: who I want to be my coach with. I think

580
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: it's luxury and I feel free. It's like I can choose.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think nast year, you've seen a lot of

588
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 6: players come and go. You've seen a lot of great

589
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,719
Speaker 6: players come and go. You've seen some of them when

590
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 6: they're have gone that they're socially not so equipped for

591
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 6: the rest of their life. Right, So I think it's

592
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 6: super important that socially you're able to function an the

593
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 6: normal world outside of the tennis bubble. I think that's

594
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 6: something that people don't really understand. It's like a traveling circus,

595
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 6: you know. And you even touched upon it, like what

596
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Speaker 6: do I do without tennis? Has this period in your

597
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 6: life with the coronavirus and no tennis, has it kind

598
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 6: of made you think about what do I want to

599
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 6: do after tennis?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I should be I should be doing that

601
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Speaker 3: I should be probably thinking because you know time time

602
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: goes fast, but I don't know right now, I'm kind

603
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: of I tried to I learn how to live in

604
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Speaker 3: the moment.

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Speaker 4: And I know because I've been actually since a little girl,

606
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: I've been always going in the future, like I always like,

607
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: you know, when I was seventeen, I always expected myself.

608
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: I was looking at that. I'm like, okay, but she's there,

609
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: like I.

610
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Speaker 3: Want to be talk, I want to be yeah, I

611
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: want to win.

612
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Speaker 4: And I'm always I'm not in the present, just like

613
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Speaker 4: so now I want to try.

614
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Speaker 3: To enjoy what I have right now, what I'm doing

615
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Speaker 3: like now today and okay, maximum tomorrow, what I'm gonna

616
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: have for breakfast. But but I always like when I

617
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Speaker 3: had two years ago, like and last year is the

618
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: spirit where I wasn't sure what I want to, like

619
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Speaker 3: continue playing tennis or not. I was thinking like, okay,

620
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Speaker 3: actually I was in a really bad condition with myself,

621
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Speaker 3: Like I came to the point where I wake up

622
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Speaker 3: and I don't want to do anything. And then I

623
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: would take a list of paper. They say it's good

624
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: to write down, write the things down, like what you

625
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: want to do and achieve and I would see there

626
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Speaker 3: for thirty.

627
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Speaker 4: Minutes and I couldn't come up with anything. So then

628
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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, so that's a bit tough, you know,

629
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: like it was a really tough moment.

630
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Speaker 3: But now I'm happy that I'm out of it and

631
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 3: I'm actually enjoying every single minute and day of my life.

632
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: Maybe something, definitely, something maybe with TV, because I like people.

633
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Speaker 4: I like the Unreacher.

634
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Speaker 2: I like to.

635
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: Exchange that, and I like to communicate with people, and

636
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 3: you know, maybe help somebody with something with my amazing

637
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: advances about life.

638
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Speaker 6: And I mean, you're still so young. You're so young, still, right,

639
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 6: you're only twenty. I mean players are playing until they're

640
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 6: mid to late thirties now, so you know, maybe you've

641
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 6: got another ten years ago. I don't know. I mean,

642
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 6: this is certainly adding a year to your career, this

643
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 6: situation we've got going on now. But yeah, I think

644
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 6: that it's one thing that players don't think about enough

645
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 6: because you're so in the moment. I mean I was

646
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 6: so in the moment when I played, but I always

647
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 6: sort of doing TV or doing stuff in the media

648
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 6: because I knew that I did like it. So it

649
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 6: might be something that you can consider now like weaving

650
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 6: it into your career even though you're trying to be

651
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 6: very serious and you know, be top ten and maybe

652
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 6: make a final, win a Grand Slam, which you very capable.

653
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want that, Like I'm I'm I'm super hungry

654
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 3: right now more than ever, and I still because of

655
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: the times has changed a little, right, so we see

656
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 3: a lot of players like Serena and a lot of

657
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: players that over thirty and they're still in amazing shape.

658
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: So that gives me also a little like motivation and

659
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: plump it, like so I can still go on and

660
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: you know, I'm still in my twin is sort of like,

661
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: and I've got a big experience on tour, and yeah,

662
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: I'm hungry, super motivated, and I think, you.

663
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 5: Know, I want to try to go for someone just

664
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 5: to kind of tie together some of the future stuff,

665
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 5: but also of some of how you're philosophically dealing with

666
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 5: your game, understanding yourself and looking at what your goals are.

667
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: It's really interesting to me that you're involved in the.

668
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 5: WTA leadership and I wonder what that sort of taught you,

669
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 5: but also maybe what you're teaching them or what you're

670
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 5: bringing to the table there and how you are thinking

671
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 5: about shaping the sport not only for yourself but also

672
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 5: for other players who are going to come after you.

673
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: For example, right now, I'm trying to think of where's

674
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: lower rank?

675
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: Where is because you know it's not easy. When you

676
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: sit at the table. The first thing, whatever we discuss,

677
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 3: you always compare it to yourself. How would you react

678
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 3: on the situation, And it always comes to you like, okay,

679
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 3: I would do that, I would feel so you know,

680
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: it's always about you the first thing, the first reaction.

681
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: But then I'm like, hold.

682
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: On a second, Like there are other thousands of plares

683
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: on tour behind.

684
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: You and higher than you. So you gotta that's the thing.

685
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: You gotta change respective and look the whole picture at everybody.

686
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 3: So you try to take top twenty and below handred

687
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: and in the middle. So that's the thing I'm trying

688
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: to think of right now. How can we actually help

689
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 3: lowering players because this is a really extreme and bad

690
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 3: time especially for them, not only for us. And so yeah,

691
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: and so I tried to talk to other players and

692
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: have some ideas.

693
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: Just I think our structure, I would change our structure,

694
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: the calendar. I think it's it's crazy.

695
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: Like I always say, there is no other sports that

696
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: have this crazy schedule.

697
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 5: I think it's not healthy and it's not mentally healthy. No,

698
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 5: it's way too long. I mean it's it's it's physically

699
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 5: mentally and I think also for the audience, it's hard

700
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 5: to know where to focus your energy.

701
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, fans, I think fans, they get confused.

702
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 4: They're like, like, I.

703
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 3: Remember I posted I have some assistant with my social media.

704
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: But anyway, like they proposed, let's do the calendar. You're

705
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 4: going to post on your Instagram what next tournaments you're

706
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: gonna play? And we posted like.

707
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: Leon In John Wolls, I know, Dubai, Doha, leon In

708
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: John Wolls, Miami, Charleston, and I get comments like do

709
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: you have time.

710
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 4: For Lee for for life, like all this kind of

711
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 4: it's it's true. So basically, how did you answer?

712
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 6: No?

713
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: No, exactly, No, I'm I'm rested in the in the

714
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 3: plane when I fly to the next even But but

715
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: it's true, like seven weeks in a row, and those

716
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: are all very big tournaments, so of course it's tough.

717
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: I can't right now, I can't afford to skip that

718
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: many tournaments.

719
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 6: I think, what I'm hearing from you, is that you

720
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 6: actually are thinking about And isn't that nice to hear

721
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 6: from somebody on the.

722
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 4: Yes, I try to think about others.

723
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's really nice of you. I'm glad that

724
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 6: you've matured into a caring human being, which you know

725
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 6: sometimes doesn't happen on the tour. I've got to say.

726
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 6: But I mean, aside from you know, we still I

727
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 6: want to still ask you what your goals are outside

728
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 6: of taking care of everybody now and worrying about other

729
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 6: players and obviously getting back onto the tour. You know,

730
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 6: we're hoping that once this, you know, this coronavirus gets

731
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 6: under control, will be all back playing. And what's one

732
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 6: of your what are the most important goals for you?

733
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 6: Like going forward in your career, what would you like

734
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 6: to achieve? And now that you have this great perspective.

735
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I want to win as much as I can, titles, grandsons,

736
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: and I want to be number one. Of course, I

737
00:39:55,160 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 3: know it's like a cliche everybody is saying that, but

738
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: I really wanted now like actually, you know, I was,

739
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: I was catching myself before that.

740
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: I was always.

741
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: Ambitious, but I guess not fully not one hundred percent.

742
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: I don't know's I'm going to try to explain. It's

743
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 3: funny because like I was doing things well, but then

744
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: you know, three days, but then two days so so,

745
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: and then I want it. But then I'm like, oh no,

746
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: that's okay. Now today I can skip it. So it's

747
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: like it was always it was never really one hundred percent.

748
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: And I think that's the biggest problem we had with

749
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 3: Patrick Moreta glu when.

750
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: He was my coach and now he took me.

751
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: I was like sixteen years old till eighteen, and Patrick

752
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 3: is very ambitious and.

753
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 4: Of course like he wanted a lot, and when.

754
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: I was seventeen, so I did this semi finals and

755
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: Don Wills and all of a sudden, I'm twenty seven

756
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 3: in the world and you know, so then of course,

757
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: like all the team and him, he's super pumped, like

758
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: he probably thought at eighteen, I'm going to be number

759
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: one and winning Branstones, but it didn't happen. So not

760
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: only I had a lot of pressure on myself from that,

761
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: but also I was always down on myself because I

762
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: was in achieving expectations and then but then yeah, I

763
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 3: think back then I was always like that with off

764
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: court and on court like I wanted, I'm doing it

765
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: like a hundred percent, but not really, you know. So

766
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: and where now I think probably with my maturity and

767
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: getting older, I finally realized and I value, I appreciate

768
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 3: and value ten is much more because I was never

769
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: you know and even now, like all the girls, they

770
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: complain about the season, how long it is, But at

771
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 3: the same time, when you take some tournaments off, they

772
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: start to complain why you took come up, we lost jobs,

773
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: we need you know, So it's like it's so long

774
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 3: or or you want more.

775
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 6: So I always say that. I think sometimes players, when

776
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 6: they go on court, they have a conscious and a subconscious, right,

777
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 6: so the conscience is always saying I want to win,

778
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 6: I want to be this, I want to win this title,

779
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 6: I want to beat this person, and then there's a

780
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 6: subconscious going yeah, but I don't know if you're ready

781
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 6: for that right now. I don't know are you really

782
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 6: good enough? Can you win this semi final of this

783
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 6: Grand Slam? And you're kind of having this like conversation

784
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 6: with yourself where you're where your thoughts don't align, right.

785
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,959
Speaker 6: So I'm always like, when you're subconscious and conscious meet

786
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 6: together and say yeah, yeah, you're going to win this.

787
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 6: We want to fucking win this. We're going to win this.

788
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 6: It's like yes. And I think that's when you find

789
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 6: that you have the success because you actually, you actually

790
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 6: believe that you can win those big matches like a

791
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 6: semi final of an Australian Open, for example, that you

792
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 6: actually believe it wholeheartedly. And do you think that that's

793
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 6: starting to align now a little bit more in big matches.

794
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I feel much more comfortable playing big matches now.

795
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 4: I feel good out there and I feel stronger and

796
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 4: more confident. Just I think also my physical.

797
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: Part was missing before, you know, because I do believe

798
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: that to win a Grand Slam, or to win something.

799
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: Big or you know, you need a combination of everything,

800
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: a bit of luck, a bit.

801
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: Of like a good draw for you, because there are

802
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 3: certain players that you hate to play against and certain

803
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: players that you find to playing against. You know, it

804
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: doesn't mean you're good or she's good or she's that,

805
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: it's just this like so much on book, then, yeah, exactly,

806
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: And I do believe that of course, not only mentally prepared,

807
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: you got to be physical prepared. Everything has to align

808
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: and of course that subconscious and conscious, but also sometimes before,

809
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: like I was playing quarter finals at the Grandsons, and

810
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, I feel comfortable because I

811
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: feel like it's good enough.

812
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: Yeah why did I Why.

813
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 3: Should I push for this extra when I'm young and

814
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 3: still upcoming queer?

815
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: It's still good enough.

816
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 6: So just you know, is it not wanting to have

817
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 6: the pressure? Is it not wanting to have the pressure

818
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 6: of the spotlight because you also know and have seen

819
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 6: what winning a Grand Slam, for example, has done, right,

820
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 6: Is that part of it? Is it a little bit

821
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 6: of being afraid to have the success?

822
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it could be. Yeah, absolutely, there's also like

823
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: a reaction.

824
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 6: We'll change that.

825
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 5: What you were talking about in terms of all the

826
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 5: expectations both from you know, outside coaches, from you know, training,

827
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 5: having a ton of expectations really is something hard to

828
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 5: grapple with. And I think like maybe it's a defense

829
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 5: mechanism for for not getting too emotionally invested and then

830
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 5: too hurt if it doesn't if it doesn't happen. So

831
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: you say it's good enough, I made a semi time.

832
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, well better I always had this pressure

833
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 3: that I have to I need to, and it was

834
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: killing me, like it's tough to I couldn't really enjoy

835
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 3: because every time you play, it's just.

836
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: Like you've gotta do better, you gotta do you know.

837
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: And also coming from a Russian family where your dad

838
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: was your coach and super strict, it's never good enough, never,

839
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: even if.

840
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: You win the tournament.

841
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: My dad would come up to me and say, yeah,

842
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: but your we're hand technique. You didn't do it properly here,

843
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: your swing wasn't I'm like, okay, you've got to be

844
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: kidding me, but you know this, like that's how we

845
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: grow up in Russia, and it's never good enough.

846
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: And so.

847
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also so I was putting this pressure by

848
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: myself as well in me and I was comparing myself,

849
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: which thanks God, I don't there anymore, but I was,

850
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: I have to be honest, I was comparing myself to

851
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 3: Audigos and a bit older of my age, and I

852
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 3: was like, okay, but you know, that's the worst thing

853
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 3: you can do. And so and sometimes you also had

854
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: matches where you want it too much that all of

855
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 3: a sudden you got so tight because you want it

856
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: too badly that I couldn't I couldn't separate this I

857
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: want so much and what I need to do to

858
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 3: win this match. I just couldn't separate those. So, yeah,

859
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: I think I've experienced a lot of stuff on ward,

860
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: but like now, I think it's a bit more clear in.

861
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: My head what I want, what I need.

862
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: Because because I think also, I was playing tennis because

863
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: I had to because my parents wanted me to, and

864
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: my dad saw me that I was good, and he

865
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: was pushing me real hard. And when you were fourteen,

866
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: I was number one engineers when I want a straight

867
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 3: and open and all I care about during that final

868
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: was this chemgaroo that I'm going to get, you know.

869
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: So I wasn't realizing what I'm doing. Like I just

870
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: knew how to hit a tennis balls, so I was

871
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: doing it like automatically, but you know, and I didn't

872
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 3: know what I need, why I'm doing this.

873
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 6: I would know what to do with you as a coach.

874
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 6: I would just buy you a stuff toy and put

875
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 6: it over in the corner of a court and be like, nasty,

876
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 6: I don't worry about the check, don't worry about winning.

877
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 6: This is going to be yours at the end of

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Speaker 6: the match.

879
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 4: That's it. It was the best. It was the best

880
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 4: present ever. No, but yeah, that My point is that

881
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 4: you know, you I wasn't realizing why I'm doing it?

882
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: For why because my parents want me? But actually what

883
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 4: it going to bring me in life? You know what?

884
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: What after what I'm going to do? So what?

885
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: But now, okay, So I think that's the main thing

886
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: is to know why you're doing this, What do you want?

887
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 4: What is your goal?

888
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 3: Then when it's so clear you then you try to think, Okay,

889
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 3: who I need to help me with this and what I'm.

890
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: Doing stuff like that. So I think, yeah, good.

891
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 5: And now it sounds like we have a good pro

892
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 5: tip for whoever your next coach is for what helps

893
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 5: you get motivated?

894
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: You know, stuffed animals?

895
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 6: It might it might be different. Now I'm thinking that nasty.

896
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 6: You might need like maybe a Gucci purse over the exactly.

897
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not dummy, I see you. So I'm

898
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 6: just thinking, you know, you can have that bad which

899
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 6: is important. It's goal setting and sometimes it's simple things

900
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 6: to actually you know, make it micro right instead of macro.

901
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 6: You go, just think about that. You know, if you win,

902
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 6: you can go shopping and it does help you take

903
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 6: away sometimes the pressure of the enormity of something you're

904
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 6: trying to do, which is win a grand suline.

905
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, our life. I'm not complaining, but that's a

906
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: very tough it's a hard life. The traveling we're doing,

907
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 3: the sacrifices we're doing.

908
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 4: We barely see.

909
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 3: Our family, we barely have a normal life and friends

910
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So I mean, of course we'll

911
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: win a lot. There is a lot of positives from that,

912
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: a lot of benefits.

913
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 4: But you know, like people have.

914
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: To also understand and we do sacrifice a lot, so

915
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 3: you know, it's good to definitely need something and somebody

916
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: who understands how to take the pressure of because there

917
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: is a lot of freaking nerves and pressure every time

918
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: you wake up the day of the match, and you're

919
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: always nervous.

920
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: It will never go away unless you're going to it.

921
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but exactly.

922
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then you start and then you start drinking

923
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 6: like me, and then because you know, you put thirty

924
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 6: years of nerves on yourself, so you just.

925
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 3: By the way, By the way, I was also ad

926
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 3: because I mentioned I love fashion, so you're right now,

927
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 3: it's not stuff twists, it's good and stuff like that.

928
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 3: But also red wine is always a good idea, a

929
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: good French red wine.

930
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 6: So I had one, almost an entire one last night

931
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 6: for you. So there you.

932
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 4: We should have, We should have, we should have all

933
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Speaker 4: together right now. Cheers.

934
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Speaker 6: Hey, I'm not going anywhere, so you can. You're happy

935
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 6: to call me anytime, FaceTime me anytime.

936
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 5: Get any hour and happy. It's always five o'clock at

937
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 5: Renee's house. I come over for breakfast and she's like, like,

938
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 5: it's ten a year, So the break.

939
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Speaker 6: We want to say thank you. I also want to

940
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 6: say now that you said that tennis is a hard life.

941
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 6: You are on the road, you are away from your family.

942
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 6: Well you are spending a lot of time with your

943
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 6: family right now, so enjoy it and don't complain about it.

944
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 4: I know, I know. Well, thanks for having me. It

945
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 4: was a pleasure. Thank you girls.

946
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Speaker 6: Yeah, nasty, I love you. I cannot wait to see

947
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 6: you somewhere down the line, somewhere I'll be I'm super

948
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 6: interested to see who you bring along in your team

949
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: because I think you there's no question you have the

950
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 6: talent to win that Grand Slam. We've seen a lot

951
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 6: of one time, one time, we've seen a couple of

952
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 6: random Grand Slam winners over the last few years that

953
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 6: we thought, wow, that's crazy. And there's no doubt that

954
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 6: I think a lot of those players have given inspiration

955
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 6: to players like you that you can you can do it.

956
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 6: So I want you to start believing in yourself.

957
00:51:52,960 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 4: A little more inspiration and frustration. Yeah, exactly. Thank you

958
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Speaker 4: for having you with pleasure. Thank you again, Thank you,

959
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 1: I and that's it for this episode of the Racket

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Speaker 1: Magazine podcast.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Our host is Renee Stubbs. Our co host and producer

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Speaker 1: is me Caitlin Thompson. Music by international renown DJ Stretch Armstrong.

965
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Speaker 1: Thanks to Tim or Jerran and the team at ACAST.

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