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Speaker 2: And we are back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lowyd is Matt Williamson, and this is

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Speaker 3: the start of our number two of the Drive here

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Speaker 3: on Steelers Audio Network and Steelers Nation Radio, Steelers Nation

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Speaker 3: Radio on the Steelers Audio Now, yeah, right right, and

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Speaker 3: we are mock drafting Matt using the Profootballfocus dot Com

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Speaker 3: mock drafter because we can make trades on here. Good, good,

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Speaker 3: And we've made a trade. Okay, we traded our sixth

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Speaker 3: round draft pick for Christian Kirk.

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Speaker 2: So if you're rewind a couple of minutes and you know,

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Speaker 2: listen to the last segment hour one. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a real good chance he gets released. And if you,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, firm it up that he ends up

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, you know, and I don't think it would

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Speaker 2: cost you much. That's a reasonable compensation. They get the

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Speaker 2: cap space, you get to play, you get the contract. Boom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, there we go. So that there's chip number one. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we haven't traded anybody from our roster, and at this

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Speaker 3: point I don't know what we're going to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're gonna have a quarterback signed.

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Speaker 3: We have a quarterback signed, and yeah, looking here at

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Speaker 3: the mock draft, Walter Nolan went with the pick right

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Speaker 3: ahead of our Okay, so you miss on that. Top

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Speaker 3: players available Benjamin Morrison, the cornerback from Notre Dame armand

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Speaker 3: Membo tackle from Missouri, Jack Sawyer the edge rusher out

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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden wide receiver Texas A, Marion Hampton running back

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Speaker 3: and m tay Leakue Williams defensive lineman out of Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: out of Texas the usual suspect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of attractive receivers Grant and Williams

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Speaker 2: on the nose, a couple of corners of interest there too.

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Speaker 2: Grant would probably be my pick at twenty one, but

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Speaker 2: I would definitely field offers. We have trade offers. Okay.

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Speaker 3: The Rams are on the phone. They have picked twenty six.

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Speaker 3: That's probably not they don't have anything in between. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they go twenty six ninety one hundred, twenty six. Now,

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Speaker 3: if they want to give me ninety and one ninety

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Speaker 3: one hundred, I would consider it for ninety and one hundred,

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Speaker 3: but I doubt that that's gonna Yeah, they as a

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Speaker 3: forty one percent chance. We'd have to sweeten that on

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Speaker 2: Would the seventh get us to forty five percent?

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Speaker 3: It only gets us even if we offer two twenty

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Speaker 2: Yet I can offer Yeah, I mean see maybe they

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Speaker 2: we got that. Didn't see them unreasonable to me? I mean,

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Speaker 2: move up the first rounds expensive, given up late two

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Speaker 3: All right, So top players available, Well, the guys that

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Speaker 3: went after us, Kenneth Grant, they moved up for Kenneth Grant.

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Speaker 2: H I don't know they would do that, but okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Armm Membo then went Jack Sweer, went Benjamin Morrison. Went,

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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden went. We're back up. Amarion Hampton, Gray Zabel,

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Speaker 3: Nick Scourton, Tyler Williams, Josh Connery, John A. Baron, Colston Loveland,

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Speaker 2: I have some interest in Williams in a nosy way,

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Speaker 2: but there's others that will like on day two, and

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Speaker 2: we have a lot of Day two picks. But Chiefs

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Speaker 3: Would be a move down to thirty one. The Eagles

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Speaker 3: are also on the phone. We pick thirty two, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we want to trade with one of those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, considering with it, I mean I was thinking of

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Speaker 3: They would give us thirty The Chiefs would give us

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Speaker 3: thirty one and ninety five for twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, we could send them one of our many threes

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Speaker 3: All right, So if it's twenty six and one hundred

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Speaker 3: We get rid of all of our seventh rounders.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the original one was thirty one, sixty three and

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Speaker 2: Day two. We got a lot of stuff. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to resume the draft here because I didn't.

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Speaker 2: All right, So at thirty two I would consider Hampton here.

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Speaker 2: Omarion Hampton is the best player available. I think he's

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Speaker 2: a tremendous fit for this offense. Tyler Williams still, I

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Speaker 2: would still consider him too. Colson Loveland, Demetrius Knight, Trey

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Speaker 3: you edge rusher out of Mississippi. I mean, honestly, the

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Speaker 3: two horse race for me, it's either Hampton or Tyler Williams.

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Speaker 2: Me too, Yeah, I really want to invest in d

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Speaker 2: But he's a nose and there's definitely gonna be nos.

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Speaker 3: Boy, they're pick thirty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those two will be there. We're picking

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Speaker 2: If they're not trading up for a running back, no,

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Speaker 2: All right, so they've got thirty four and sixty five,

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Speaker 3: They're not going to give us that. Now if we

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Speaker 3: give up let's say one twenty one, Now, I mean.

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Speaker 2: If we just get a fourth, I'd be up for it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what about thirty two and ninety, which is

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Speaker 3: a comp pick at the end of the third round

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Speaker 3: for thirty four and sixty five.

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Speaker 2: I would do that.

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Speaker 3: We're losing the fifty year option, but then we use

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Speaker 3: them anyways. Yeah, right, if I'm going to take a

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Speaker 3: running back or a defensive tackle, I'm probably not going

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Speaker 3: to use it anyways.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'm going to offer it. They took it.

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Speaker 3: We're back, and the picks were TYLERK Williams and Colston Loveland.

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Speaker 3: So Amarion Hampton, I'm fine.

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Speaker 2: With it considering the massive amounts of trade downs we did.

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Speaker 2: We're it's not like we're going to ignore d line.

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Speaker 3: So here's what we now have after all that movement.

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Speaker 3: We've got thirty four, fifty three, sixty four, sixty five,

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Speaker 2: How many picks totaling sick one two three. We got

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Speaker 2: rid of the junkie picks sick. We got seven picks. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's take our back now, Okay, Mario Hampton, it is.

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Speaker 2: I just think he's a really, really good fit. We

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Speaker 3: One, we're back at fifty three. We're not taking a

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Speaker 2: I think we're done. We're done at running back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I want big people or receivers in corners. Uh, top

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Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna mention the running backs. Calcolnard edg

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Speaker 2: Both those guys are interesting to me. Donovan Jackson, offensive

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Speaker 3: Jordan Birch ed rusher out of Oregon, Cameron Williams tackle

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Speaker 3: Aussie trapeoh offensive tackle from Boston College. Darius Alexander.

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Speaker 2: Interior. How long do we wait after this pick?

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Speaker 3: We have eleven picks. I think you go wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: There's two receivers. I liked there was a couple o linemen.

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Speaker 2: of Harmon or Alexander falling. I'd be a little heartbroken

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Speaker 2: if both went these next ten picks. Yeah, who's your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a lot different than Kirk Williams. Is intriguing,

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Speaker 3: but the production was not all right? All right, I

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Speaker 2: Like they're both big, big dudes, right right, But if

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Speaker 2: you considering we have Kirk on board, I think Higgins

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jayden Higgins is the pick. All right, we're back up.

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Speaker 3: The top player available. The top two players available, Derek

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Speaker 3: Carmon and Derek Alexander.

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Speaker 2: We've done this before and we've chosen Harmon. Either would

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Speaker 2: have been fantastic. I'm glad either one's Let's take Harmon here.

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Speaker 2: It's easy enough.

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Speaker 2: I think it's Harriston. I think that's yeah, that's an

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Speaker 2: easy pick. Before that, I didn't really like anyone. I

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Speaker 2: was gonna suggest you want to do Alexander as well

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Speaker 2: and just go crazy on D line. We could do

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Speaker 2: I know neither one of those no's, but still we

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Speaker 2: But I think he go with Harriston. All right.

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Speaker 3: Harrison is the pick. We're back now at eighty five

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Speaker 3: Let's take Howard just to be different.

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Speaker 2: Late Jordan James. It is now. Remember we have one

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean we moved completely out of the

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Speaker 3: saw this over the weekend, but Matt Miller put out

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Speaker 3: his list of players who were actually first rounders. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I didn't say in this year's draft, and one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now he came up with twelve this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: Last year there were eighteen. Usually there's around fifteen. Last

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Speaker 2: He was one of them, right right, heavy offensive. Of course,

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Speaker 2: For the Steelers, I think he just take them. I

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Speaker 2: I think McMillan qualifies, though, I mean, is he special special?

431
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 3: He wouldn't have broken, He wouldn't have cracked the top

432
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 3: eighteen last year.

433
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 2: I definitely would have neighbors Harrison ahead of them. And yeah,

434
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 2: and I mean those guys.

435
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: Are pretty easy and maybe even Brian Thomas.

436
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: Though toss in that neighborhood.

437
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: And Thomas is way more explosive than McMillan.

438
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 2: Thomas was the fastest guys in the league. Yeah, I mean,

439
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 2: I'm trying not to have any hindsight of what they

440
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,959
Speaker 2: did as rookies, but I love Thomas, and yeah, Steelers

441
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 2: were taking him in the mid first round.

442
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: I would have I think he was one of the

443
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 3: eighteen left. He might have been like number eighteen. It

444
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 3: was all offensive guys, honestly.

445
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: It was. But I think as I mean, if I

446
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: were just grading them from what I know, I'd probably

447
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: have similar grades on McMillan and Thomas at the same age.

448
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 3: Tight ends he has two Tyler Warren Lovelin got it

449
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 3: in Colston Loveland. He has Warren at number nine. He

450
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: has Colston Loveland at number eleven.

451
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,239
Speaker 2: Okay, let me real solid player. I don't quite look

452
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: at him at that light.

453
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: But here are the compsoons for Tyler warreny is the

454
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: compass Rob Gronkowski, Yeah, okay, well okay, and Colston.

455
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: Lovelan is compass Trey McBride. I could see that, but

456
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: that's a little rich too. McBride's really good. Gronk bothers me.

457
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: I've met Matt Miller a couple times. I think he

458
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: does really really good work. But that's like it kind

459
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 2: of reminds me of Jim Brown, you know, like easy easy, you.

460
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 3: Know, offensive tackle. He has two, surprisingly enough, Will Campbell

461
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: at number seven and Kelvin Banks at number eight.

462
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,479
Speaker 2: I kind of think you can't have none, right, but

463
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: they don't.

464
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: They wouldn't be in I don't know if they either

465
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: one of those two guys would crack the top five

466
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: from last year.

467
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: Say do you have him over Fluaga? No? Or Fashu

468
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: or no? Not older Latham.

469
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 3: I mean his comp for Will Campbell is Dion Dawkins,

470
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 3: who's a fine player, but he's also like three forty

471
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: and yeah, thicker, more physical, a lot of people think

472
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: Campbell might be a center. I mean, I think he'll

473
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: be a good player.

474
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's a better Scornsky. Yeah, he's bigger.

475
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

476
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 3: The comp for Kelvin Banks is Rashaun Slater.

477
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 2: Maybe that's aggressive too. Slater's undersized, but he's one of

478
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: the top five left tackles on the planet right now,

479
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: is he Slater? I think I think he's a good player.

480
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 2: I don't know he's a great player. I think he's

481
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: a big time guy. No interior offensive lineman. Yeah.

482
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: Three edge rushers, Okay, I can believe that he has

483
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 3: Abdul Carter number one.

484
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. He's a slam dunk first edge

485
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: off the board any year he comes out guy.

486
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: He has Jlen Walker number five. He has MIKEL Williams

487
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 3: number twelve. The comps are for Abdell Carter. The comp

488
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: is Michael Parsons, and he's a little lofty with his

489
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 3: comps here throwing.

490
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: A good player. He is, he is, but I mean

491
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: we're talking about the best players in the league.

492
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 3: For Jalen Walker, his comp is Harold Landry.

493
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: That's actually not as kind as most of his comps

494
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: have been. I think Walkers can go high though.

495
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 3: And for Mikel Williams is Trayvon Walker. Both the Georgia

496
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: guys those aren't super right, great kind of a Georgia

497
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 3: trade though. You know that a lot of them are

498
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: super athletes, super recruits. A few of them are Carter

499
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 3: that have Jalen Carter that have all the above. Yeah,

500
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 3: you know one production and defensive tackle. Yeah, Graham, Mason

501
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 3: Graham and uh Matta Bouquet is his.

502
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: Comp for Graham? Not a bad one?

503
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 3: Okay, No linebackers, yeah, I agree, two cornerbacks. Okay, he

504
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 3: didn't count Hunter as a corner apparently receiver. First, he

505
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: has Will Johnson at number three.

506
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

507
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: He has Jodde Barron at number ten.

508
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: Really, I would say it was I was thought he

509
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 2: maybe had put Benjamin or some of the injury guys.

510
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 3: You know, he is the comp on Will Johnson, is

511
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 3: Patrick certaining.

512
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: Around like the best players in the league here. You know, Uh,

513
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: the comp for bear And is Brian Branch. Yeah. I

514
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 2: mean that that first segment when we traded out a

515
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: couple times, Baron would have been my pick or twice there,

516
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: you know, right, Yeah, yeah, like him a lot. Yeah,

517
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: no safeties, Yeah, of course, so you.

518
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: Know again I didn't give you like his comp for

519
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 3: Ashton Genty is Alvin Kamara. I think he's a tougher

520
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: runner than Alvin Kamara. Not the Kamars can't right ball.

521
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: But you're gonna give out. You're gonna give Aston Genty

522
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: the balls three hundred times.

523
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: Forget what the stat was I heard the other day.

524
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: It was just a running back show, That's all I did,

525
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: and it was a PFF oriented one that he has

526
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: more yards after contact this year Genty than like twelve

527
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: running backs have had ever in a season, other than

528
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: twelve running backs, like at the college level, like he

529
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 2: has eighteen hundred yards after contact or something insane where.

530
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: That was not a great Boise State tea.

531
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: He's getting it on his own. Yeah, I mean, imagine

532
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: if you could give him Saquon Holes with the Eagles

533
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: type stuff.

534
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: You know, his comp for Travis Hunter as a wide receiver,

535
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: Odell Beckham, Oh.

536
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: Early Odell was a lot like him as an athlete.

537
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 2: I mean, not the last five years version of Odell,

538
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: but I thought early in Odell's career, like year two

539
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: through five, Julio and ab were the best two receivers

540
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: on the planet, and he was third and looked like

541
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: he was going to be that and never quite never

542
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: kept getting hurt. Yeah, but he was a really explosive athlete.

543
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: Every remembers the catch he made. But I mean there

544
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: was like three years in a row in like the

545
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: Dynasty community. He was the first pick he would take,

546
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: you know, thinking what he is and what he'd become.

547
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: That's a good comp.

548
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 3: But twelve guys on that list, we could see that change.

549
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 3: After the combine, somebody comes out and is better than

550
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: what your thought or and I wonder.

551
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: And like thought, will Loveland stay on there? Yeah? Yeah,

552
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: I mean there could be one that just he runs

553
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: a four to eight or something and you know it's

554
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: slower than or yeah, Tederoe McMillan goes out and he

555
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 2: might be a little slower thanything, or he's faster than

556
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: you thought.

557
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: He runs a four to four eight and you're like,

558
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: it's six five and two hundred and twenty pounds.

559
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 2: And no he wasn't on there. Yeah, okay, yeah, I

560
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: was thinking he was. I've been told Will Johnson probably

561
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: won't run super fast, but he has to run really

562
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 2: slow for me, not to get bumped from the leaf.

563
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: He has to be in the four sixes. Yeah, yeah,

564
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: they're high four fives at a minimum or something like that.

565
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 2: Or maybe he even refuses to run. I don't know

566
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: that could happen those guys all do. I mean, he's

567
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: six for two, two hundred and two pounds. It's a

568
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: big dude. He's a big dude. He's great tape And yeah,

569
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: I know, like Graham has short arms. We haven't seen

570
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: that yet. How short are they? Well, he'd be a

571
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: great tester. Maybe not, you know, but I'm not sure

572
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: that's how he wins. Yeah, yeah, I look, there be

573
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: a lot of change on there. The short arm thing.

574
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: To me, with the defensive tackles, I don't think it's

575
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: the end of the world. I don't think it is either.

576
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: I want motor.

577
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 3: Give me a guy that just goes hard all the time.

578
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: That that's I can get it on your body because

579
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: of the get off and all that too.

580
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: It was Braid and Fisk, like people Braid and Fisk's

581
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: arms are too short, and like did you watch the tape?

582
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: It makes plays, makes plays all the what he does

583
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: right and that translated. Yeah, I wonder if Ward or

584
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: Sanders will get in there when it's all said and done.

585
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I don't think that they're going to

586
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: do anything that's going like, all right, what could they

587
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: possibly do that would push them onto this list? And

588
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: I'm not making fun of Matt, but it's if it

589
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: becomes clear that Ward is going to be the first

590
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: pick in the draft, I may put them. He may

591
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: end up just getting in there, you know, like the

592
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 2: Titans already know his name in there? Right, And I

593
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: get it, I mean right, I mean I do it

594
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: with mel Kiper does I do with our rankings when

595
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 2: I'm putting we're putting together our list because I know

596
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: he's going first overall? I mean okay, I mean I

597
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: can you know last year, for example, I had Jayden

598
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: Daniels number one on my quarterback list.

599
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: Well then it became, oh, he's not going to go

600
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: number one, all right, I guess.

601
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: I'll put yeah, yeah, yeah, cam or Caleb Williams up

602
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: there because I don't want to be the only person

603
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: and beating that drum.

604
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's okay to be the only person eating that drum.

605
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: But in that instance, if you know guys gonna be first,

606
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: and you don't have him in your blue Chip twelve

607
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: or whatever, then you look just a little weird. Yeah,

608
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: but it's quarterback. But it's quarterback, and I just don't

609
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: know that this year's quarterback. I don't know that I

610
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: would necessarily put them in there. Sanders wouldn't for me.

611
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: He takes a lot of sacks. He's not very physically imposing.

612
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: He's gone a great athlete. I think there's a lot

613
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: of tu to him. The ball doesn't come out as quick.

614
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: Here's the list from last year. He had Gayleb Williams

615
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: number one, Jade and Daniel's number five, Drake May number nine.

616
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: No running backs, okay, no other quarterbacks.

617
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: Though five wide receivers in his top eighteen.

618
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: So Thomas was one of them.

619
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Harrison Dounezier neighbors Brian Thomas. He also had

620
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: a Donnie Mitchell in there.

621
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I kind of get that at this

622
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: stage of last year. Yeah, big, strong, fast. His compoy

623
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: was George Pickens. Yeah, he fell for some pickings like reason.

624
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: He was number eighteen though one he was the last

625
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 3: guy last. Rock Bowers was there.

626
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: The tight end.

627
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: Four offensive tackles alt for Shawn who for Waga and Fatano.

628
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: Not Latham. Not Latham. That surprises me.

629
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you if you remember a lot of people

630
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: last year this time thought Latham might be a guard.

631
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: It might be that this stage of the game.

632
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: Uh No interior offensive lineman, two edge rushers Dallas Turner

633
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: and Jared Vers versus one defensive tackle Byron Murphy.

634
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

635
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 3: No linebackers and two cornerbacks Terry and Arnold and Quinya

636
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: Mitchell Mitchell.

637
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: Okay, none of that surprises me. So when people talk

638
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: about I can't Donnie Mitchell is the one that's you

639
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: still get this the the armschair quarterbacking or Monday Morning quarterbacks.

640
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: The Steelers wasted that pick on Troy No, he's going

641
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: to be a good player, Let's see.

642
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just because he missed the the season

643
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: with an injury and they didn't take I get it. Quinn,

644
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: you Mintioned went after him and Brian Thomas went after him.

645
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but he's.

646
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: Going to be a good player. And you don't want

647
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: to be fishing in those waters this year.

648
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: No. I mean, I'm not saying it's apples to apples,

649
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: but if you want to tell me they traded up

650
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: for Broderick Jones and it should have been Christian Gonzales. Okay,

651
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 2: we have three years of two years of data to

652
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: go off of there. Stee was first on picking. This

653
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 2: instance has shown you one day Yeah, you know, right,

654
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: one days that's not even close to fair. Yeah, and

655
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: there's also eight million examples of that, Like you took

656
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: this guy at ten, but Aaron Donald went at nine,

657
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: you know, like Eric Ebron went to pick after Donald.

658
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: What doesn't mean the Ebron pick was a bad one

659
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: or before Donald or whatever? You know. I mean, it

660
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: wasn't great, but there's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking there. Absolutely.

661
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: I did a show at the car show last Friday

662
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: with Tim Benz and he was like, yeah, I'm just

663
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 3: not sold on the Steelers last two drafts.

664
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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not, Yeah, really, Like, I mean four

665
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: guys were hurt last year. Yeah. What don't you like about? Yeah?

666
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: I think I get it. Okay, So you.

667
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: Want to say, you know, Roderick Jones hasn't hasn't lived

668
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 3: up to that? Okay, there's an argument there, But what

669
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 3: about the other guys?

670
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: Porter and Benton Joe.

671
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: I thought Joey Porter took a huge step backwards. I'm like,

672
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: I don't think that.

673
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: I didn't think so. I definitely think.

674
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: His tackling was much better this year. He was you know,

675
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: he's again he's asked to do hard, has to do

676
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: a lot. Yeah, maybe I would have thought Benton was

677
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: one notch higher by now.

678
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: But I'm a big fan. I mean, I'm not with

679
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: the slice work. I was right, he's right. Washington, to me,

680
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: took a big step forward. I think these last two

681
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: classes are foundational, but I'd like to see the first

682
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: round picking action.

683
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we saw him in training camp last year.

684
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: I thought in training camp last year he was their

685
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 3: best offensive lineman, including Fraser who was impressive too, and right, right,

686
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: So see what that works out to be. Before we

687
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: start declaring that these last two drafts haven't been good.

688
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, the old line may have a very different feel,

689
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 2: you know, come November next year.

690
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: And that's the thing. If you hadn't taken Troy Filatano

691
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: last year, you'd either be re signing Dan More this year,

692
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 3: or you'd be drafting an offensive lineman in the first round.

693
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: This year that probably isn't attack.

694
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 3: It probably isn't going to live up to you got

695
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: them last year because.

696
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: You'd have something else. You might have Brian Thomas or whatever.

697
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: You know, yeah you know somebody like that, or Mitchell

698
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: or somebody like that, of course, which would be nice,

699
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: but no question. But tackles don't grow in trees either.

700
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: They do not. I mean it should big tree, that'd

701
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 2: be a big tree. It's funny. I do remember though,

702
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 2: as the pick was going in, those were the two

703
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: I would have made Frasier in the second round and

704
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: for a Tano, and I remember thinking if it wasn't

705
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: either one of them, I would have taken Thomas or

706
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: Donnie Mitchell if the guys that were available.

707
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: If those two players, just those two guys work out

708
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: the what you think that they can be. Fraser's already

709
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: one of the tops over the five he is follow

710
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: Tano turns out to be a top five right or

711
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 3: left tackle. I don't care which one if even if

712
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: he's a top ten, yeah, right or left tackle, that's

713
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 3: a that's a slam dunk.

714
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: That's a massive draft in itself, like show my age,

715
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: because I remember recruiting both these dudes. But when the

716
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 2: Jets used two first round picks on Mangoled and to Brickish,

717
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: off Ferguson. They went from like in two years, a

718
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: bottom five OH line to a top eight O line.

719
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: It was both perennial Pro bowlers. Yeah, change the left

720
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: tackle in the center.

721
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Speaker 3: It just drives me crazy when I I still people

722
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: still see people saying, oh, they need to draft more

723
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: offensive line, and I'm like, they've used five picks on

724
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 3: offensive linemen. We let them develop, right, how many do

725
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: you need?

726
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

727
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 3: How many do you need to take here and hide

728
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: like in the first two days of the draft before

729
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: you're like, all right, we're good there.

730
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: So I love what the Eagles have done and they're

731
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: the topical team. They won the Super Bowl, but everyone

732
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: just says draft Limon, draft Limon, Jeff Limon, draft Liman

733
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: now because the Eagles beat the Chiefs. Well, they also

734
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: have a J. Brown and Devonte Smith and Saquon Barkley

735
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: and Quinnoon Mitchell and Bond and they're kind of good

736
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: all twenty two.

737
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Carter, they've used line. They haven't just

738
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: drafted offensive lineman. No, they let those guys develop.

739
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was a seven.

740
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so again I'm not ready to say, well,

741
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: Roger Jones.

742
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: Is a bust. He's played two seasons. In the end,

743
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: he's played.

744
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: He has a couple more starts now under his belt

745
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: than what he had in college.

746
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like, let's let's he's still and he's still

747
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: twenty three. Let's let's not write his book just yet. No,

748
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: I agree on that one.

749
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the

750
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. That was Matt Miller's

751
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four five top and twenty four and twenty

752
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: five went through in both. And they don't all hit,

753
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: of course, not right away. I mean just because you

754
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: were a sure fire first round pick doesn't mean that

755
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: you were a massive hit in your first year.

756
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: I mean some of them play through injuries, some hit

757
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: rookie walls, go to bad situation, some of them just

758
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: arrange good as you thought. Absolutely, But let's get to

759
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: a break. We'll be back with more right after this.

760
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

761
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

762
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

763
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Speaker 2: And we are back.

764
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Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

765
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 3: Matt Trevor Lawrence today was said that he actually came out.

766
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: I don't know where he spoke or who he's going to,

767
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: said there was no chance that he was going he

768
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 3: was ever coming to Pittsburgh because A he has a

769
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: no trade class said.

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00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: No trades cause they've no GM. Although it sounds like

771
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: you're getting close on that he has a no trade

772
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: clause and it would be a disastrous cap hit for

773
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 2: them other than that, right right, perfect, And they just

774
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: hired a head coach to work with Trevor Lawrence.

775
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Speaker 3: Well, uh, Pro Football Talk looked into this whole thing. Okay,

776
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 3: spoke to a source within the Jaguars and he said, look,

777
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: there's no call took place where the Steelers caught up

778
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: and offered anything for Trevor Lawrence or inquired or anything

779
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: of the sort. It didn't happen, And it didn't happen, right,

780
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 3: it didn't happen.

781
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: And whoever reported, I guess is a reputable reporter. Maybe

782
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: he's got bad information. I don't know. I've never heard

783
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: of the fellaw to be honest with you, but it

784
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 2: we talk about this all the time. I mean, it's

785
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: just so easy if you have a decent following on

786
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: social media just to put something out there and add

787
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: you're following, you know, for that reason, you know. Yeah,

788
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: so maybe they talked about Christian Kirk. Maybe they've I

789
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: mean they've had conversations with many teams about many things.

790
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: That's what gms do. But that never added up to

791
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: me at all.

792
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, just so we can stop talking about that. It

793
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: didn't happen. And if it had happened, somebody would have

794
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: had to have talked to Trevor Lawrence about it, because like, look, Trevor,

795
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: this is you have to wave your no trade class.

796
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's he just added to his contract. Yeah, one

797
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: year wasn't going to happen. When you look at trade, folks,

798
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: you gotta think of what both sides, right, I mean,

799
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: if I'm the Steelers, I'd be interested if I knew

800
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: he was on the market. Right, Why on earth of

801
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: the Jags trade Lawrence? With all those things we have said.

802
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: This isn't Madden, No, not a plan Madden where you

803
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: can just I'm going to treat it, do this, and

804
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: when that's going.

805
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 2: To the face of the franchise. And they hired people

806
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: around them to make them better.

807
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: So CBS Sports put out a little piece. Yeah, a

808
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: weekend Fields about Justin Fields and.

809
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 2: Their uh idea. I didn't see it the same way

810
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 2: they did.

811
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: No, I didn't either, Yeah, but their idea what a

812
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: contract for Justin Fields could look like if the Steelers

813
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: wanted to give him one now before he tests free agency,

814
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: would be two years forty million dollars with incentives that

815
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 3: could reach up to fifty million dollars. And they said,

816
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 3: and Brian Diardo wrote this, He said it would seem

817
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 3: reasonable for both sides because Fields would be paid like

818
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 3: he's a top twenty quarterback.

819
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Speaker 2: Right, And I understand you get more when you're on

820
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: the free agent market than you would after, you know,

821
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: at different times of your career. Now, the one thing

822
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: that I did agree with is at the bottom of

823
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Speaker 2: the article. He basically says, like minshees making like eleven

824
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: and then there's there's no contracts in between. I mean, so,

825
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: originally I thought Fields might be two years, twenty five

826
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: heavily incentive. Late, I've come to the conclusion that's probably low,

827
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: but the numbers he put out seem extraordinarily high unless

828
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: they're way way incentive late. Like you got to hit

829
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: if you win the Super Bowl, you get a five

830
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: million dollar, but I mean like big things.

831
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Speaker 3: Well, Gino Smith is currently the nineteenth highest paid quarterback

832
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: in the league, and he makes twenty five million per year.

833
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: The league has a problem that there's nobody making fifteen

834
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen, which makes no sense to me at all,

835
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Speaker 2: which is part of the issue here.

836
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 3: It's a pro and it's part of the negotiating problem

837
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: that you would have with this situation.

838
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: There have no comp contracts. If the Steilers go to

839
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: him to say, here's fifteen a year, he should sign that.

840
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: In my opinion, he doesn't have to do every once.

841
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: But his agent goes, well, okay, that's nice, but who's

842
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: who's your comp on that? Right? We might be there

843
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: isn't one. We might be able to get such and

844
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: so we might be able to get this much. We

845
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: might be able to get twenty million a year from

846
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 2: the Jets, or we might be able to get twenty million.

847
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 2: I only need one of six or seven teams to say, well,

848
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: I guess that's.

849
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 3: Going right, and they start doing it right, start bidding

850
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: against each other, and the next thing you know.

851
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: And Head did a long podcast today about this that

852
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: to me, there are six teams right now they frankly

853
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: don't have a quarterback, Steelers being one, and my co

854
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: host goes, yeah, there's only one good team on that list.

855
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 2: What's the Steelers? You know? And it was fun hearing

856
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 2: it from an outsider. He's like, that's way more attractive

857
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: to me than going to the Jet, right, which I.

858
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: Although you wouldn't know that from some Steeler face.

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00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: Exactly, And I urge everyone to check it out. But

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Speaker 2: then I also thought, you know, when after I read

861
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Speaker 2: this this afterwards, is if I'm Field's agent, though, and

862
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: my only goal is to get my client the most

863
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: money I possibly can. These other five teams that don't

864
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: have a quarterback are probably bad because they're not as

865
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: smart as the teams that are good. And maybe they

866
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: will give you the contract that we just talked about

867
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: on CBS. You know, it doesn't mean it's a smart

868
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: business move, but maybe you're bad for a reason and

869
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: you give away bad contracts.

870
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 3: You know, Gardner Minshew made twelve and a half million

871
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: dollars this year. I knew when he signed that that

872
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: was a bad deal.

873
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: You knew, right, right? Right? I mean, but the Raiders

874
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: Fields I want more than that, right, Yeah? And and

875
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: he is a very good cause to do that.

876
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 3: I'm a better player than Gardner Minshew, right, but you're not.

877
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: As valuable as Gino Smith, who's definitely a starter. I mean,

878
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: that's the next contract up there. And like the Daniel

879
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: Jones contract was a goofy one, the Baker one's a

880
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 2: little weird. He's the one he signed before this one.

881
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: There's no comps. I mean, there's several teams going through

882
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: this that even no middle class.

883
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: Even the Vikings deal for Donald over ten million dollars,

884
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: it was a bad deal. Give me Sam Donald ten

885
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: million dollars for what he had put on tape over

886
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 3: his first five seasons was a bad deal.

887
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: Like Fields is worth more than that version of Donald,

888
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: you know. And I'm not saying he's a superstar. He's not.

889
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: He's not a top twenty quarterback right now, which is

890
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: what he's going to ask for. So that might be

891
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: a stickier contract that was. With six teams out out

892
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 2: they're bidding for it only takes one to say it

893
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: only takes one and to get shut out on the

894
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: other guy you liked or whatever.

895
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 3: Quite frankly, I would understand it completely if Justin Fields,

896
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: who has never been through free agency who's never made

897
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 3: ten plus million dollars a year would want to make heck.

898
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: As much as he can now. I also think that,

899
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: and he's flat out said I'd love to come back

900
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh. Yeah, And I think that's.

901
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 3: Nobody I have that the free agents that every when

902
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 3: you ask him, hey, do you want to come back here?

903
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 3: They said no, absolutely not right.

904
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: But I also think he would love to be in

905
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: the same offensive system for two years in a row.

906
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: He's had no continuity in poor guy's career. From that perspective,

907
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 2: Is that worth ten million a year less? No, but

908
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: it might be worth two million a year less, right,

909
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: you know whatever. And I'm not saying the Steelers are

910
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: offering them to at twenty five. I have no clue.

911
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it's reading the article to me

912
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: was like, I don't quite agree with this, but maybe

913
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: this contracts thick yeer than I thought. Here's what the

914
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: Steelers comps won't do.

915
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: They're going to come up with a number that they

916
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: think is fair, and they're gonna they're gonna make that

917
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: offer to Justin Field. They're going to make an offer

918
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 3: to Russell Wilson, and they're not going to necessarily budget

919
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 3: off of that number.

920
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, they'll negotiate to some degree, but.

921
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: Well, oh they're offering you twenty, we're offering you twelve.

922
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 2: Right, Jets said, it's a good idea. We're going to say, yes, weird. Agree.

923
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: That's how you run into That's how you get yourself

924
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: in trouble, right right, That's how that's why you are

925
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: a team like the Jets that cancer in this range. Yeah,

926
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 2: and would like to, like any negotiation, would rather get

927
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: you the low number than the high number because then

928
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: we can go get another defensive back or whatever. But

929
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: it is weird. I mean the league is kind of

930
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: a quarterback middle class problem for contracts.

931
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, just because there aren't enough good ones. They just

932
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: aren't right.

933
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: And there's not a lot of people like in his

934
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: shoes that still are valuable and have done good things

935
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: but haven't proven themselves.

936
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: Again, And if you look at it, Gino Smith is

937
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 3: the nineteen highest paid quarterback and twenty five million dollars

938
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: a year. Well, there's thirty two starting quarterbacks.

939
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 2: In the league.

940
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not all rookies true, right, there are

941
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: six teams right now that don't have a quarterback.

942
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: And no, I mean the math doesn't quite out of

943
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: yeah right now, it's I still think incentives are the

944
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: key if he's your goal as a quarterback. Wilson aside,

945
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: but this is a conversation of who you prefer. It

946
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: has to be, well, if you play all seventeen games,

947
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: that's a two million dollar bonus. If we get in

948
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: the playoffs in any way, shape or form, that's two

949
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: million dollars. If you account for twenty five touchdowns, that's

950
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: two million dollar bonus. You know. Then I could prove yourself,

951
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: you know, yeah right, you know, and two years, we'll

952
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: give you the forty five a year or fifty maybe

953
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: after the first year year right right, negotiating like oh

954
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 2: you will way out played that.

955
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: That's what Baker Mayfield is, yeah, right, right.

956
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 2: Right, And there could be something like that too, or

957
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: the three year deal and that third one it really escalates.

958
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: We might be rilled we're there, you know, or you

959
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: might get cut effort two you know, but it have

960
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: to be somewhat incentive lated. You can't just lay it

961
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 2: out as you're getting twenty a year because that contract

962
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: doesn't existence league.

963
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Speaker 3: Right right, anyways, that's going to do it for today's show.

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Speaker 3: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

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Speaker 3: on site running the soundboard and the Justin Miller Hotline,

966
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Speaker 3: and for Tevin Dandridge making sure that the video gets

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Speaker 3: out there on YouTube. Check that out, give us a

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Speaker 3: thumbs up. We appreciate that. Yeah, I am Dale, Lolly.

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