1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Last night, Senator Ted Cruz and I, after they finished 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: with the whistleblower testimony in Congress, did a two part 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: sit down conversation with James Comer. I'm coming to you 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: live this morning from Washington, DC, and we were up 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: until the am hours. My producer was up. I don't 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: even know if he's gone to sleep yet. So I 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: apologize to him as we are doing this right now 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: because this interview was so shocking. This interview was so important. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: This is an interview that needed to take place for 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: you to understand exactly what has happened with the whistleblowers. Now. 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: The whistle blowers, just so you understand is are came 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: forward and they are some of the most brave people 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: that I've ever seen. They're risking their entire careers, They're 14 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: risking their lives to come forward. And what we learned 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: about these new whistleblowers that they are both Democrats. Okay, 16 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: they are not part of and hacks. These aren't Republicans 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: that are saying they want to get revenge on Trump 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: or or excuse me, on Biden and the Biden you 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: know regime. These are Democrats who said they weren't allowed 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: to do their jobs and they are angry that they 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: weren't allowed to do their jobs. Now, I'm going to 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: give you a couple of different teasers here so you 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: understand how shocking what you're about to hear is. We 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: learn that there are more Biden family members from James 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: Comer that have gotten money than we knew before. We 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: also learned from James Comber that there's more countries that 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: dirty and shady money and bribes came from. We also 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: learned from James Comber through these whistleblowers, that apparently payments 29 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: went to the Biden crime family directly from the Chinese 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: Communist government. Not not. I want to be clear, We're 31 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: not talking about money coming in through a company that's 32 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: connected with the Chinese Communist government. We're talking about direct 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: wire transfers, money laundering into Biden LLC bank accounts. They 34 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: put these shell companies up that do nothing, and the 35 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: money was falling in from the Chinese Communist government. Now 36 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to play for you some chunks of what 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: was said, and you can download Verdict Ted Cruz. You 38 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: can hear the as I co host the show with him. 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: Part one is out, Part two will be out on Friday, 40 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: but I want you to hear a substantial amount of 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: what was said on this show. Listen. 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: So I just want to start by asking what happened today? 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: If someone's busy, they're driving to work, it's Thursday morning, 44 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: they're driving to work, they didn't have time to turn 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: on the TV yesterday, they didn't watch the testimony, So 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: what did they miss? What happened in the House of 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 2: Representatives on Wednesday? 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: Well, I think we had a very substantive hearing on 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: a very serious subject. The subject was the Biden criminal activit, 50 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: and the two witnesses we had were I think the 51 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: most credible witnesses we've had in front of the oversight 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: commending the entire seven years I've been in Congress. These 53 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 3: were the two highest ranking IRS career employees from the 54 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: International Tax Crime Division. So these were the guys that 55 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: investigate all the suspicious wires, all the foreign influence, any 56 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: type of tax evasion from foreign entities, the influx of 57 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: illegal Chinese money. These are the guys that do that, 58 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: and they're part of an elite team, and they're only 59 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: twelve on this team. So this was two of the twelve, 60 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: one sixth of the entire International Tax Fraud Team for 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: the IRS, and what they had to say was very 62 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: concerning because I never knew over the past six months 63 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: whether or not DIRS even you about the shell companies 64 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: that the Bidens had, if even you about all the 65 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: suspicious activity reports that had that showed that the Bidens 66 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: were laundering money through shell companies through various banks. You know, 67 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: pretty serious accusation. We've been talking about this and the 68 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: Democrats have said, well, there's no evidence, that's not true, 69 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: that's fake news, Russian disinformation. So we finally had two 70 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: whistleblowers come forward. They gave a transcribed interview to the 71 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: Ways and Means Committee, which is the appropriate process of 72 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: the ones, as you know, in the House that has 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: jurisdiction over the IRS. Then they agreed to come to 74 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: committee hearing for the House Oversight Commute. So the American 75 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: people got to see today a six hour hearing with 76 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: fifty members of Congress, each having six minutes to ask 77 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: these these Irish suppsed to blowers questions, and there were 78 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: substantive questions on the Republican side. Now, the Democrats, all 79 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: they thought about was Trump and racism and things like that. 80 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: But we asked very subjective questions, and what we learned 81 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: was that the Bidens have have committed a series of crimes. 82 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: There were many more tax evasion issues than what Hunter 83 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: Biden pled guilty to. The IRIS whistle blowers had investigated 84 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: this for five years and they were told to stand 85 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: down by the Department of Justice. And what happened is 86 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: they took so long they let a lot of the 87 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: statues and limitations expire to where the penalties that the 88 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: Bidens were going to have to plead guilty to kept 89 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: shrinking and shrinking and drinking. 90 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: There was nothing left and serving zero jail time zero 91 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: jail time. 92 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 3: Anyone else in America would already be in prison for 93 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: the amount of money they evade. 94 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: All right, so let's start at an initial point. These 95 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: two whistleblowers look at an initial assessment. You've got to make. 96 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: The House of Representatives has to make if we see 97 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: an impeachment trial, the Senate has to make, and ultimately 98 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: the American people have to make is are these guys credible? 99 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: Are they telling the truth? If they're lying, that's not 100 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: very persuasive. And so if you're trying to assess or right, 101 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: are these credible witnesses? One of the questions you ask 102 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: is do they have a bias? You know, if you 103 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: have a witness who is, say a disgruntled employee that 104 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: got fired, sometimes they make up all sorts of crazy stories. 105 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: If you have a witness as a partisan, maybe they're, 106 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, a hardcore Republican. They hate Joe Biden, so 107 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: they'll come in and testify to something nasty because they've 108 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: got a political bias. So one of the things that 109 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: I think is striking is that both of these guys 110 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: their career IRS employees, they've spent their entire professional life 111 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: working with the IRS. They're both Democrats. Neither of them 112 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: are partisan Republicans. I don't know if anyone asked today, 113 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: but I suspect neither of them voted for Donald Trump. 114 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: I think that's a good suspicion. 115 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: You know, they've said they're Democrats, they've identified as Democrats. 116 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: The number of career IRS employees who are Democrats who 117 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: voted for Donald Trump, if that's not zero, it's pretty 118 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: to durn close, very close. So that suggests there's not 119 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: a reason on the face to doubt what they're saying. 120 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: They still might be lying. You've got to test what 121 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: they're saying anyone that comes forward with serious allegations of criminality, 122 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: and to be clear, what they've alleged is criminality by 123 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden. But look, if we were just talking about 124 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, he is a troubled soul, he has substance 125 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: abuse issues. If it were just Hunter Biden, this wouldn't 126 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: be national news. But they're also a legend criminal conduct 127 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: by Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States 128 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: under Joe Biden. And they are ultimately a legend criminal 129 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: conduct by Joe Biden, the sitting president of the United States. 130 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: They were and they were headed towards Joe. They wanted 131 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: to interview Hunter. They wanted to interview Joe Biden's grandchildren. 132 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 4: When you say they, so if people understand who. 133 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: Is they, they who are the two with us? 134 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: There were more than two, There were seven that were 135 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: set to interview Hunter Biden and his children. 136 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: So they had a plan, and they had a plan. 137 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: It was IRS employees as well as FBI employees. 138 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: So were they working together or separately working together? 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That is 190 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: unusual when they're getting ready to hunt knock on Hunter's. 191 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: Door the Secret Service, because at the time they were 192 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: going to knock on Hunter's door was at the point 193 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: where Joe Biden just got elected president, so he had 194 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: Secret Servers protection and he had the transition team. The 195 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 3: Secret Service was notified that Hunter Biden was about to 196 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: be approached by IRS and FBI employees, and then the 197 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: Biden transition ting was approached. Then the Biden lawyers called 198 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden, and then they called the FBI agents and 199 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: the IRS agents and said, don't knock on that door. 200 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: If he wants to come out, he'll come out and 201 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: talk to you. Just wait. Well, they waited and nothing 202 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: ever happened, and then they were told to go home. 203 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: So they were there at his house. 204 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 3: They were there at his house. 205 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: So let me underscore. The Department of Justice tipped off Hunter, Hey, 206 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 2: they're coming to question you. And Hunter called at his 207 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: lawyers and they said, don't talk to him guards side, 208 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: Like in any other circumstance, if you're investigating criminal conduct, 209 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: do you tip off the suspect beforehand? 210 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 3: They said that today. No, they said that never happened 211 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: in their decade long service to the IRS. 212 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: When they were told to go home? Who told them 213 00:11:59,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 4: to go home? 214 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: Their superior at the IRS? 215 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 4: Was that unprecedent from that? 216 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: They said, it never happened before. 217 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 2: All right, you talked about suspicious activity reports, and there's 218 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: been some discussion of this. Look, if you're at home, 219 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: you're watching TV, you're trying to figure out what these are? 220 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: What is a suspicious activity report? And like when is 221 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: it made? When does it occur? 222 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 3: I knew a lot about these because I was the 223 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: director of a bank for over a decade. A suspicious 224 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: activity report is when the bank files noticed with the 225 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: Treasury Cabinet that they suspect their client has committed a crime. 226 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: Doesn't mean they committed a crime, they have a strong 227 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: suspicion that a crime was committed. So it's to protect 228 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: the bank as well. So how frequently do these things 229 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: A very seldom, Despite what the Washington boast or in 230 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: their defense of the Biden, they said, well, everybody has 231 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: a suspicious activity report. That is belooney. I was on 232 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: a bank board for ten years. I think we issued 233 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: two over the course of ten years. 234 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: And how many were issued concerning hunter By than Joe 235 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: Biden and the Biden family over. 236 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: One hundred and seventy. 237 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: They were direct You were at a bank and they 238 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: issued too. 239 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: If you had two sars, they're called sars in the 240 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: banking industry. If you had two stars against you, it 241 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: would be hard for you to open an account somewhere. 242 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 3: There wouldn't be any bank that would want to have 243 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: you as a customer because it's not worth the paperwork. 244 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: Remember when the bank files one of these, you could 245 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 3: understand this appreciates this center. That's inviting the regulators to 246 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: come in and regulate. Okay, that's the last thing to bank. 247 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: So one hundred and seventy get file. That means that 248 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: somebody is getting a deposit in their account. It's a 249 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: big amount, it's from somewhere suspicious. I mean, what triggers it? 250 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: Why you're a banker, what is it that makes you 251 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: say we had to file a SAR? 252 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: A large transaction that comes out of the blue. So 253 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 3: what's large? What is there a threat you had you 254 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 3: had a million, I'll use the Robinson Walker account because 255 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: we subpoened. That was the first bank account we subpoena. 256 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: Now, who's Robinson Walker. 257 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: Rob Walker was one of the associates that they used 258 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: to uh funnel money from China and then in Romania 259 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 3: and then down and launder it down to the Biden. 260 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: So he's a guy that's doing business with Hunter and 261 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. Yeah, okay, we. 262 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 3: Don't know what that business is. They got a three 263 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: million dollar wire from from China. So this so one 264 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: wire three million dollars, three million dollars. Now, remember we 265 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: got the bank records for ten years that bank account 266 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: never had got a three million. 267 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 4: Dollar No, but I want one. 268 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: Well this is not right. That is a charming guy 269 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: and he would like three million dollars. Not going to 270 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: do it? 271 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you don't have to work for three million. 272 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: Apparently, so this account never had much activity in it 273 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: over the course of ten years, maintained around a forty 274 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: or fifty thousand dollars ballance. Then one day, out of 275 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: the blue, they get a three million dollar wire from China. 276 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: And so their bank says, this is weird. Yes, and 277 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: it's coming from China, like the face of it, from China. 278 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he'd never gotten a foreign wire before. And 279 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 3: there's three million dollars in a in an account that's 280 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: never had more than fifty thousands some months, you know, 281 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 3: had ten thousand dollars ballance, but never more than fifty thousand. 282 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, a three million dollar wire. 283 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: And then what happens to that three million dollars when. 284 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: It lands twenty four hours later? Because that's the minimum 285 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: amount of time you can you have to have a 286 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: deposit in the bank for at least, like the wire 287 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 3: needs to clear, Yeah, it needs to clear. Yeah, twenty 288 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: four hours and two minutes later, he starts. 289 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: You serious, Yes, he's really twenty four hours and two minutes. 290 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: Maybe an hour, give me a righty, Just it was 291 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: more than two minutes. It was like fifty six minutes. 292 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: Okay, nineteen pinocchios because you added fifty minutes to it. So, 293 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: but it's just after twenty after. 294 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: Twenty four hours. The next day they start wiring incremental 295 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: payments to different Biden shell companies. 296 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: So how many Biden sholl comps? 297 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: What that's called when you set up a bunch of 298 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: shell companies for the sole purpose to launder money. That's 299 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: called racketeering. 300 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: We're going to get into what racketeering means, how this 301 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: was working these shell companies, and what jobs and what 302 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: businesses they weren't actually doing. They were companies that they 303 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: set up LLCs that did nothing, They sold nothing, They 304 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: didn't do any business. It was too launder money and racketeering. 305 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: We keep hearing about suspicious activity reports. 306 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: What is that? 307 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Like a shell company? What is a shell You hear 308 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: shell company? And like what does that mean? 309 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: And explain the show companies connecting to money laundering, how 310 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: those two come together because a lot of people that 311 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: hear this, but they don't understand why you need so 312 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: many of them and why you would cipher money into. 313 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 3: Multiple shell companies from the banking background, and yeah, this 314 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: is people want to know that. For me, I mean 315 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: it has a double a swordr. But a shell company 316 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 3: is a fake company. Okay, it's a company. 317 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 2: So it's not a real business. 318 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: Now make anything. They don't produce anything, They don't provide 319 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: a good or service. 320 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: Okay, they're just you just do that. We can create it. 321 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 3: They go to the Texas or Kentucky Secretary State and 322 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 3: file a company in two minutes that says Cruise and 323 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: Comer energy company. But that doesn't mean we have an 324 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: energy company, right, just have an LLC Limited liability company 325 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: that says we're an energy company. So they just create 326 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: these fake companies. 327 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: And how many are we talking about? Twenty twenty twenty, 328 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: so twenty different Biden fake companies. They don't have factories, 329 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: they don't have machinery and don't real products, they don't 330 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: real website, they don't have a business card. 331 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: They don't so they're twenty. 332 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 4: They don't have a storefront, they have nothing. 333 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: Okay, they're they're you and so. 334 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: That's where the laundering. Yes, so explain how you launder 335 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: money and how that works. 336 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 3: Money laundering is is hiding money. You're you're hiding the 337 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: source of the money and you're deceiving the Internet the 338 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 3: internal Revenue Service to try to evade taxes. So if 339 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: if the Hunter Biden was doing something legitimate for China, 340 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 3: they could have just wired the money to Hunter Biden, 341 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: but they didn't. They they sent it to a company 342 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: called Robinson Walker. Then they wired it to a company 343 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: called Ouasco. Then they wired it to another company called 344 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 3: Bohee something or another, and then they start these. 345 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: Companies do anything with it, and they're just it's it's 346 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 2: just a bucket to pour the water. 347 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: If the partner somewhere else, that's exactly what. And it 348 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: was organized. This is like organized crime. This was very organized. 349 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: So how did you unerwind this? So you're sitting there 350 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: doing a congressional investigation. If they're trying to hide it, 351 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: presualy they make it hard to figure out. So so 352 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: what enabled you to twenty show companies? How do you 353 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: figure this out and connect the docks? 354 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 3: Well, there was a We had a good start. Your 355 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: call leagues, Grassley and Johnson had done a report, Miranda 356 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 3: Divine had written a book. There were several good reporters 357 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: that have been investigating on this for a long time. 358 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: We took pieces of that, and then when I became 359 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: chairman and got subpoena power, then I was able to 360 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: actually subpoena bank records and. 361 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: The bank's cooperated. 362 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: Most of the banks have cooperated. It's getting harder because 363 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: here's what happened. Everyone on cable news, some people that 364 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: I don't think are as smart a legal mind as 365 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: you ted. We're giving me lots of advice on what 366 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: to do. The first thing they need to do on 367 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: day one is subpoena Hunter and Joe Biden. I didn't 368 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 3: do that, and I think that would have been a 369 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: huge mistake. I think that's what they thought I would do. 370 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: If I had done that, it would have ended up 371 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 3: in court. Then if I had subpoenaed some of these 372 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: bank accounts, the bank would have said, we can't give 373 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: that to you because there's ongoing litigation. 374 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: So what we did, so they started, I gathered. 375 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 3: We started by subpoenaing bank records for shell accounts to 376 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: some of these companies had been abandoned because they never 377 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: were real company. Yeah, they never said to hide the 378 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: money they were getting from China and Romania and Ukraine. 379 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: So those bank account. 380 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: So let me stop real quick. Are those the three 381 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: countries that are involved, China, Romania and Ukraine, But all 382 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: three of them. You've got payments from China, from Romania 383 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: and Ukraine going to Hunter Biden, Joe Biden or the 384 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: Biden families. 385 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: Right, not to Joe Biden yet, but to everyone else 386 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: in the Biden family. 387 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: How many bidens have have you identified they've gotten money? 388 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: Far? 389 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 4: Nine and and and when you identify. 390 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the I've heard the number twelve, So so what's. 391 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: The we actually have nine? Uh so we're proved one, 392 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 3: we proved nine. I'm I would bet a lot of 393 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: money if I were on the craps table, I would 394 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 3: put odds behind three more members of the family. 395 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: When you when you say there's nine. 396 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: The reason that we. 397 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 3: Haven't gone after the brother yet and the. 398 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: Brother the brothers Jim, that's Joe, Joe and Frank. 399 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 3: Don't forget about Frank. 400 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: I have gotten about Frank. Okay, so I hear about Jim, 401 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: all right, So Joe, how many Joe has two brothers? 402 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: Two brothers, And so I got to say one of 403 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: the things I've wondered. In fact, I was having dinner 404 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 2: with some folks tonight who asked me. They said, Okay, 405 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: Hunter has been indicted. What about Jim? Like, what what 406 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: about Jim? 407 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: Jim was the big dog of this entity before Hunter 408 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Biden came along. 409 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: Why Jim's not in the in the news right now. 410 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: He didn't leave a laptop laying around. But I'll tell 411 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 3: you what Jim has done. He's in court in about 412 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: four or five different states, being sued by former partners 413 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: for fraud. 414 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: Really yes, why has that not been covered? 415 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: Well, you tell me, so we'll get to the point 416 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: to where we'll start subpoenaing his bank records. I think 417 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: some of these Ksey part of the reason we can't 418 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: get it because he's in litigation. 419 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 2: Right the nine or twelve. You've got Hunter, You've got 420 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 2: Jim and Frank. That's three. Who are we talking about 421 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: as the rest? Who are the other players? 422 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: The other players are Frank, Frank's wife, so Frank's wife, 423 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 3: uh huh. And we believe that Jim's got family members 424 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 3: too that may have received wires. And then you know, 425 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: ultimately with Joe, I suspect there are offshore accounts and 426 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: we kind of learned that today. One of the last queste. 427 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: What's the evidence of off shore accounts that you learned today? 428 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: There are the irs whistleblowers confirmed when I asked if 429 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: they had documents pertaining to foreign accounts, and they said 430 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: they did. Wow, they couldn't turn them over to us. 431 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: They have to go through that process and turn it 432 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: over to the Ways and Means Committee, And I requested 433 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 3: they do that and they said they would. 434 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: All right. Let me say this real quick, if you 435 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: want to hear the rest of this interview, you gotta 436 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: download Verdict with Ted Cruz wherever you get your podcasts. 437 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: There's going to be part one, which obviously just heard 438 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: part of it today and I hope you are as 439 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: angry and as shocked as I am right now in 440 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: that number one. Number two. We're going to have part 441 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: two come out tomorrow, so you need to listen to 442 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: that part as well. This entire podcast downloaded wherever you 443 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. My takeaway from today is this, you 444 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: have a government that has decided that the Biden crime 445 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: family must be protected at all costs. You have Joe 446 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Biden who has had a long history of getting involved 447 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 1: in his family's business dealings, and that is selling access. 448 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: They're not selling another product. They have countless shell companies, 449 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: fake companies set up that do nothing. So the only 450 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: thing that their product is delivering favors from the United 451 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: States government. That is the business. They're not selling coffee, 452 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: they're not even selling drugs. They're not selling any item. 453 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: What they are selling, they don't have a storefront. These 454 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: businesses and lcs would be set up and then three 455 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: million comes in, and then two million comes in, then 456 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: five million comes in, then a million comes in, and 457 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: then they funnel that money to other show companies. Racketeering 458 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: is what this was described as. The only product they 459 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: had was they were selling access to Joe Biden the kingpin, 460 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: and then Joe Biden would deliver government favors. A perfect 461 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: example of the government favors that he delivered was ten 462 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: million dollars from that corrupt Ukrainian oligarch that owned Barisma. 463 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: He paid ten million dollars, so that the favor was 464 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: Joe Biden flying over to Ukraine and telling Ukraine, We're 465 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: not going to give you the a billion dollars, which 466 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: is a significant amount of money to Ukraine. Ukraine's economy, 467 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: their GDP, everything is very different the United States America. 468 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: Billion dollars to them is like I don't know, a 469 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: trillion dollars to us, it is huge. And that Russian 470 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: oligarch or I actually say, that Ukrainian oli guard said 471 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: I'll give you ten million, but you got to get 472 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 1: the prosecutor fired. And what did Joe Biden say in public, 473 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: his words, son of a bitch. They fired him after 474 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: he demanded them fire that prosecutor that was looking into 475 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: Barisma for corruption. And fraud. He got them fired by 476 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 1: holding American dollars, your tax dollars away from Ukraine as 477 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: a government. They said, all right, we need the money 478 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: to bet fine, fire the prosecutor that Joe Biden is 479 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: demanding that we fire. And then that's why they paid 480 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: him ten million dollars because he was delivering that. That's racketeering, 481 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: money laundering, and a crime syndicate. This is this is 482 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: criminal activity at the highest levels in America. Was being 483 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: bought off left and right by our adversaries for favors 484 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: from the United States government, and they paid Joe Biden 485 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: and his family to do it.