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Speaker 1: to send a message that you just can't support somebody

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Speaker 1: who is who has been dishonest and has possibly in

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Speaker 1: gay aged in uh immoral and ethical and even criminal

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Speaker 1: behavior in the past. How do you and I want

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Speaker 1: to hear it. I mean, I know this is not

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Speaker 1: an easy thing, but tell me how do you balance

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Speaker 1: what I'm what I'm what I'm rationalizing in my head

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Speaker 1: right now? You know, I could go in and I

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Speaker 1: could cast a write in ballot for Colonel Buzzy. You know,

435
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Speaker 1: he's a third, he's a he's a writing candidate. He's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna get five percent of the vote or something

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Speaker 1: like that. But at that point it would be a

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Speaker 1: wasted vote. Um, it's my duty to go vote, So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go vote. I can't vote for the for

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Speaker 1: the Democrat because I don't agree with him ideologically at all. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna end up voting for wit More. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna hold my

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Speaker 1: nose and do it because the stakes are high. Um,

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Speaker 1: who do I want on the Supreme Court? That's you know,

445
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Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna vote more towards my agenda and

446
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Speaker 1: what I want passed and than Doug Jones. Will um,

447
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Speaker 1: you know when we've had worse people in the Senate.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's a Democratic senator that passed away recently

449
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Speaker 1: that um, I believe was directly responsible for the death

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Speaker 1: of a girl. So I mean, I think we all

451
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Speaker 1: know Ted Kennedy was. It was a creep. So anyone

452
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Speaker 1: listening who doesn't know the story of chap Aquittic just

453
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Speaker 1: please google it and you will. If you don't already

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Speaker 1: know the story, you'll never be able to look at

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party the same way. So, so you know,

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Speaker 1: you know the places a seth pool and I think

457
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna participate in sending another creep up there, honestly.

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Speaker 1: But look, I appreciate you airing out your internal struggle

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Speaker 1: here for all of us to because I look, I

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Speaker 1: think there are a lot of people listening, David, who

461
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Speaker 1: and we have a strong contingent down in Alabama listens

462
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Speaker 1: to the show. So they're actually having to engage or

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Speaker 1: not engage in this voting process. Right, It's not just

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Speaker 1: an ideological exercise for them to say, well, I would

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Speaker 1: or would not vote. They you know, like you, David,

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Speaker 1: they actually get to vote in this and and I

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Speaker 1: know it's it's tough for some people because you know, look,

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Speaker 1: I wish Moe Brooks had one. I'll just put that there.

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Speaker 1: I like Moe Brooks, but anyway, he didn't win. And

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Speaker 1: I hear you, David, I hear you're I hear your

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Speaker 1: you're back and forth on this, and look, I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate man, thank you for the call, thank you for

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Speaker 1: sharing your decision. Shields high, and uh honored to have

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Speaker 1: you joining us here. Uh, let's get one more call

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Speaker 1: for me going to break. But by the way, I

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Speaker 1: want to know how many of you listening right now

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Speaker 1: are in or if there are any of you listening

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Speaker 1: who are in the you're torn about it, but you're

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Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna vote more anyway, or even if you're

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Speaker 1: somebody who's listening. He's like, look, I don't live in Alabama,

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Speaker 1: but that's how I would vote if I were in Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious if that's a how widespread a sentiment that

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Speaker 1: is among this audience. I would I would want to know.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering about it, because you know, there's some stuff

485
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Speaker 1: that there there, there's there's a lot going on. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on here a lot of moving pieces.

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Speaker 1: This is where we could just I could just rely

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Speaker 1: on radio jargon to uh prevent me from making any

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Speaker 1: analytic errors. Felix in Florida saved me from myself here.

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Speaker 1: What's gonna feel? Hey? How you doing, Buck? I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Cast iron skillets high? Indeed, Hey, im, I thought I

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Speaker 1: actually want to talk about the shooting in Arizona. But

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Speaker 1: my thoughts on more is this. I think that he

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Speaker 1: is innocent because two of the women, as far as

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Speaker 1: I'm concerned, have been discredited. Uh as far as dating

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Speaker 1: eighteen year olds. You know, I've known, I've had friends

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Speaker 1: where these situations. You know, guys like thirty eight married

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Speaker 1: a nineteen year olds. They were married for fifty years.

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Speaker 1: He passed away recently. No, I don't, I just to

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Speaker 1: to be to be fair, I feel like I don't

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Speaker 1: think anyone's raising eighteen year old or nineteen year olds

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Speaker 1: as a problem here. And I will say though the

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Speaker 1: media has been doing something that. Look there, they keep

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Speaker 1: bringing up sixteen and seventeen year olds in the context

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Speaker 1: of Alabama at the time to suggest that Roy Moore

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Speaker 1: had a predisposition, A a whatever, A tendency is a

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Speaker 1: better word to date young women when he was in

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Speaker 1: his thirties. But the age of consent in Alabama at

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Speaker 1: the time and I believe still is sixteen. So they're

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Speaker 1: talking about non criminal behavior to point to the allegan

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Speaker 1: to give greater credibility to what would have been criminal

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Speaker 1: behavior within underage girl who was fourteen, right, So that's right. Well,

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Speaker 1: you see, the thing of it is is the one

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Speaker 1: with the yearbook that's been completely discredited because again the

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Speaker 1: assistant that signed her divorce, uh just you know that

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Speaker 1: he dismissed, she stamped his signature and put the DA

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Speaker 1: behind it. Okay, So there's so much about that and

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Speaker 1: they never turned it over and she even admitted that she,

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Speaker 1: you know, did some writing on there. So as far

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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, she's discredited. Then there was Debbie Weston

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Speaker 1: Gibson or whatever her name was, one of the other ones.

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Speaker 1: I believe. She said that Roy Moore gave her alcohol

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Speaker 1: on a date and she worked with the Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: campaign doing sign language, worked to Joe Biden and the

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Speaker 1: pictures of her and Joe Biden on line and she's

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Speaker 1: a member of the resistance. So there's two already right

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Speaker 1: there who had discredited. Plus, I came across the guy

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Speaker 1: who claimed that his wife on her Facebook had gotten

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Speaker 1: messages asking women that they would be paid at thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to make up wise about Judge Moore. I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard anything about that. That would be a first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I found it online when I googled the hall thick

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Speaker 1: and I scrolled through a bunch of things. I came

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Speaker 1: across the guy, uh and of course he was a

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Speaker 1: Trump guy because his handle was magas a Right. So

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Speaker 1: we're getting we're getting a little deep into the rabbit

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Speaker 1: hole here. I don't know what we're talking about, Felix,

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Speaker 1: So you gotta you gotta bring it back to what

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00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: we can all discuss real quick before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: Get some thoughts on the cops shooting. Yes, Um, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: When I watched this thing, I get really angry. They

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Speaker 1: set this guy up for failure. They were playing Simon

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Speaker 1: Says with him, Simon Says with him, and unfortunately what

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00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,479
Speaker 1: was at stake was his life. You know, there was

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Speaker 1: no way that he was gonna walk out of there

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Speaker 1: the way that this whole thing went down. And I'm

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Speaker 1: so surprised that these cops. When I found guilty of

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Speaker 1: martyr and hopefully maybe the fetes can go in there

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Speaker 1: and twas him with something of the cruel and unusual punishment,

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00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: because this is just this is incredible. I hear you, Felix. Well,

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Speaker 1: I agree, man, because I wrote on the Hill dot

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Speaker 1: com about this, and I was happy to see that

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00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: God is as much um as much readership as it

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00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: did because I feel very strongly about it, and conservatives

555
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: need to not just feel like, oh, well, a cop

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Speaker 1: says his life was in danger, so that means that

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00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: he can shoot somebody that that's not the standard. Is

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Speaker 1: also a reasonable person standard on the circumstances, not just

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Speaker 1: what the cops said. He felt like he was in danger,

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00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: so that's okay, and I'm sorry, but they had that

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Speaker 1: guy in that hallway. They were watching him crawl, they

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Speaker 1: were listening to him cry. There was no way that

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Speaker 1: guy was about to reach for a weapon from his position,

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Speaker 1: and that the shooter. Brailsford afterwards said that in the

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Speaker 1: police report that he thought he was trying to get

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Speaker 1: into a better angle to shoot him. Is just that

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Speaker 1: that that's classic after the fact, trying to create a

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Speaker 1: pretext for the shooting. I mean, there's it was just nonsense. No,

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Speaker 1: no person with any knowledge of ballistics or policing or

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00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: anything could could say that. But he's trying to cover

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Speaker 1: his buck because he he just shot somebody for no

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Speaker 1: reason really, And that's why I feel very strongy about it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not feeling one. It's good to hear from me.

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Speaker 1: Felix Fields High. Uh. We gotta run to a break here.

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Speaker 1: If you're on hold, stay with me. Roy Moore the

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Speaker 1: election tonight, Doug Jones v Roy Moore, who wins well

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Speaker 1: know hopefully before the show is out tonight and eight

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Speaker 1: four four Night to five. What are your thoughts on this?

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Speaker 1: And also we're gonna talk about Trump sent out a

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Speaker 1: tweet this morning. People people paid attention to it, got

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Speaker 1: the media in a in a tizzy. It was a

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Speaker 1: It is being claimed by me, I was gonna say

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Speaker 1: by something by many that it was a sexist me

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Speaker 1: against a possible Democrat presidential contender. Is that in fact

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Speaker 1: the case? We will be on that case after the break,

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Speaker 1: Stay with me. Headline on Fox News is sexist smear

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00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: question mark, So I guess it would be sexist smear.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, this tweet this morning with Trump. This got

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Speaker 1: This got a lot of attention. So here's here's what

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Speaker 1: it was. Trump tweeted, Okay, no sorry, I'll just free

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Speaker 1: you the tweet light. This is from Donald Trump. This

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Speaker 1: is the president states Um, this is not me speaking this.

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Speaker 1: I'm quoting the president, the commander in chief of the

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Speaker 1: most prosperous, powerful country in the planet. This is what

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Speaker 1: he wrote this morning. Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand a total

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Speaker 1: flunkey for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to

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Speaker 1: my office quote begging for campaign contributions not so long

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Speaker 1: ago and would do anything for them, is now in

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Speaker 1: the ring fighting against Trump, very disloyal to Bill and

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Speaker 1: crooked and then used in all caps. Uh this now

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Speaker 1: wait not Sarah Huckeby Sanders addressed this today. I think

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Speaker 1: only if your mind is in the gutter would you

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Speaker 1: have read it that way? And um so no, Hunter,

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Speaker 1: So it's not it's when when what he said, what

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00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: he said was open and if he was not minding,

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00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: it's obviously talking about political partisan games that people often

607
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: play and the broken system that he's talked about repeatedly.

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Speaker 1: This isn't new, This isn't a new sentiment. This isn't

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Speaker 1: new terminology. Uh, he's used it several times before. As

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Speaker 1: I said a few minutes ago, he's used it several

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Speaker 1: times before, referencing men of both uh, both parties in fact,

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Speaker 1: And so I think that there if you look back

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Speaker 1: at the past comments he's made, it was very clear

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Speaker 1: what his reference was. Sarah Huckaby Sanders not not backing

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Speaker 1: down on that one at all. She's saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: sure enough, Uh, sure enough. It's not not meant to

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Speaker 1: be in any way the innuendo that many have been

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00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: saying all day that it is. And this immediately brings

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Speaker 1: up a whole discussion about Trump and sexism and all

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00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: that stuff. So there is that this was like one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest news stories today. You know, yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: finally I'm more about a guy who tried to blow

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Speaker 1: up Midtown, New York yesterday as a suicide bomber. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's let's talk about Trump's tweet to Kirsten

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Speaker 1: jill Brand first. That's been the attitude for most of today.

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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty amazing. Mark and Alabama. Welcome, sir. You're

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Speaker 1: on the Buck Section show. Hey Buck, how's it going.

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00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm good man? What's going on. You're in Alabama, tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell me about the sites, the sounds, what's happening. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm part of the vote today, so I figured

631
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Speaker 1: i'd give you an Alabama perspective. They talked about the

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Speaker 1: SEC divide between Auburn Alabama. Try household when you're talking

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Speaker 1: about possible and uh allegations against somebody as a sex molester,

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Speaker 1: for chel molester, and so it's been a big discussion

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Speaker 1: of my household. And uh, I got told your screener,

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Speaker 1: you know, my vote today, UH necessarily wasn't for more um,

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Speaker 1: it was for the Republican Party and keeping the agenda going.

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Speaker 1: And it's just uh, I think that's what the selection

639
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: is gonna come down to, is is staying on track

640
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: to uh to vote the agenda more than it is

641
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: the person and that uh, you know, it's too close

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00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: in the Senate. And if we want to sit here

643
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: and see the Senate stalemate for another eighteen months till

644
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen for the elections, either that or

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00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: are you gonna end up with being so close that

646
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: we get these special interest groups like Senator McCain who

647
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: wants to uh, you know, use his vote as a

648
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: leverage to get what he wants on his way out.

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00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: I just think that, uh, when it's all sent down

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Speaker 1: tonight in Alabama, I think that More might not win

651
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: by the twenty one points that Trump did, but I

652
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: think that he will be a five to seven point

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00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: winner tonight. All Right, we got a prediction and a

654
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: voter in Alabama here who tells us that he cast

655
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Speaker 1: his vote for Judge Roy Moore, Mark Shield time at

656
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: thanks for calling in from the state where all this

657
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: is going down tonight. Uh. We will have a reporter

658
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Speaker 1: on the ground in Alabama, right, isn't he joining us? Come? Yeah,

659
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: that's right, coming up here. Tell us what's what's happening,

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00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: any last minute political shenanigans, anything going on here that

661
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: could effect turnout, etcetera, etcetera. All that Roy Moore Doug

662
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: Jones fight coming up. It is election night in Alabama,

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00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Doug Jones versus Judge Roy Moore, and the polls will

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Speaker 1: be closing within the hour. We're getting some exit polling

665
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: coming in, but as we know, you can't trust exit polling.

666
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: But what is happening down in Alabama? How does turn

667
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: out look and what's it like on the ground where

668
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: this pivotal Senate race is being decided. Right now, we

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Speaker 1: have Jim Farty, joy, us anchor at news radio one

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Speaker 1: or five point five w e r C in Birmingham, Alabama. Jim,

671
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: great to have you back. Great to be back. Buck.

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00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: All right, tell me what's going on, Jim. How's it

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00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: looking down there? Well, I'll tell you we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of folks making it out to the polls. We're

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00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: getting reports from all over the state about stronger than

676
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: expected turnout. And interestingly, you'll get some reports indicating that

677
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: the turnout is very good in places that would be

678
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 1: favorable to Doug Jones, and then a little while later

679
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: you'll hear the same thing about Harry is that reporting

680
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: a very strong turnout that would be beneficial to Judge

681
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Speaker 1: Roy Moore. So the bottom line is that the turnout

682
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: is better than expected. That said, the Alabama Secretary of

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Speaker 1: State is expecting the total turnout to be around A

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Speaker 1: lot of folks are gonna think that's low given all

685
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: of the publicity that this race is received, although it's

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Speaker 1: possible that they will adjust that turnout higher as the

687
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: night comes in and the votes start to trickle in.

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00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: But Secretary of State's office felt that pretty confident that

689
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: it would be around. Uh. It is a special election,

690
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: of course, and so the turnout is going to be lower. Uh.

691
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Speaker 1: Folks just are not accustomed to coming out in the

692
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Speaker 1: middle of December in an odd year for a major race.

693
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Speaker 1: How long will it be once the polls closed? Do

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Speaker 1: we have a sense? And I know it could be

695
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: very very close, right, in which case all bets are off.

696
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Speaker 1: But when will we When would we know Let's say,

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Speaker 1: let's say Roy Moore wins by six or seven points

698
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: clear victory, how long before we could actually probably have

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00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: that information here. If that is the case, then we

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00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: should be able to call the race by nine o'clock

701
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Central if he if he has a clear, convincing margin

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00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: beyond recount range. By nine o'clock we could call that race.

703
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: Of course, if it's much closer, uh than we go later.

704
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: But um, the more campaign, Uh, they're expressing confidence. They

705
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: say that they're getting good turnout in the rural areas

706
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Speaker 1: of the state where they have a very strong following.

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00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: They've been able to identify and mobilize their supporters and uh,

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00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: some of that exit poll data has been trickling and

709
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: some of it is favorable to Judge more especially, I

710
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: did see one piece of information indicating that most of

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00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: the voters made their decision before the allegations of misconduct

712
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: were reported by the Washington Post last month. So people

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00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: are or at least voters at this point seem to

714
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: have been set in their decision making process despite the

715
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Speaker 1: tremendous press, I mean, it has been saturation level, uh

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Speaker 1: for when it comes to news stories about Judge Moore

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Speaker 1: from the national media, I'm sure from the local media

718
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Speaker 1: as well. With that in mind, Jim, what what has

719
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: been the what's been kind of the last pitch, if

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00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: you will, from both sides today in terms of what

721
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Speaker 1: have they been doing, what were they doing on the

722
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Speaker 1: campaign trail, and what was their last summary message for

723
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Speaker 1: the voters of Alabama on on election Day? Well, of course,

724
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Speaker 1: both of them were urging their supporters to get to

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Speaker 1: the polls. H Judge Moore was pitching this as an

726
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Speaker 1: effort for Alabamians to decide the election, not outsiders, not

727
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: outside money, and that he could be counted on as

728
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: someone to support President Trump and the make America Great

729
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: Again agenda. UH. Doug Jones has tried to downplay his

730
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Speaker 1: Democratic party affiliation. None of his commercials mentioned the fact

731
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Speaker 1: that he's a Democrat. He has not brought in national

732
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: Democratic figures to campaign with him, even though he was

733
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: an Obama and Hillary Clinton supporter. Obviously, that would be

734
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: very damaging politically in a state as Republican and conservative

735
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: as Alabama. So Jones has been trying to pitch himself

736
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: as someone who can work across party lines to get

737
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Speaker 1: things done. In the past twenty four hours, though, they

738
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Speaker 1: did allow robot calls to be made by former President

739
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Speaker 1: Obama and Vice President Biden, but those specifically targeted Democratic

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00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: voters that they knew would be receptive to those appeals.

741
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Speaker 1: I see. So they're using, for example, the former former

742
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: President Obama's voice on robot call specifically as a turnout

743
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: mechanism for registered for registered Democrats, as opposed to a

744
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: last minute pitch to Centrists, which they figured might backfire.

745
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, we should bear in mind that

746
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: Obama lost Alabama convincingly by large margins in twenty eight

747
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: and so he's never been popular in Alabama except maybe

748
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: among Democrats, and so they wanted to target that very carefully.

749
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: Of course, President Trump has recorded a robot call or

750
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Speaker 1: Judge or and that robot call has also been circulating

751
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: across the state. The Alabama Republican Party UH purchased time

752
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: on radio stations and ran the robot call in its

753
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: entirety as a standalone commercial appealing for voters to go

754
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: out and support Judge Moore UH and they make America

755
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: Great Again agenda. We're speaking of Jim Faerty, who's an

756
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: anchor at news radio one oh five point five w

757
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: e r C in Birmingham, Alabama. Tonight obviously is the

758
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: big election for an open Senate seat in Alabama. Jim,

759
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: one more for you. In terms of the undecided, We've

760
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: had people calling in who are on their way to

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00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: the polls UH, and we have others writing and you're

762
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: saying they're still thinking about it's still and I'm like, well,

763
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: you don't have too much time to make a decision

764
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: one way or the other. What were the poll saying

765
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: about the undecided vote? And also what can you tell

766
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: us in terms of your own anecdotally from what you're

767
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: hearing about on the Republican side, are there are there

768
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 1: a lot of fence sitters or most republic that you've

769
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: spoken to committed one way or the other. Well, i'll

770
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: tell you, Buck, in the closing days, of course, like

771
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: in many campaigns, you're battling for a smaller and smaller

772
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: piece of the pie when it comes to those undecided.

773
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: But the polling information that I had seen in the

774
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: past few days indicated that the undecided were swinging heavily

775
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: to Judge more by a better than two to one margin.

776
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: So that may have accounted for the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Putting aside the Fox News poll, the other polling that

778
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: came out in the closing days indicated that Judge Moore

779
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 1: was opening up a lead anywhere from a few points

780
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: to as many as nine points in the Emerson College poll.

781
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: Uh seemed to suggest that the President's very strong endorsement

782
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: helped swing some of those undecided voters behind Judge Moore.

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Speaker 1: Jim Farty of w E r C in Birmingham, Alabama, Sir,

784
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining. Good luck tonight. We appreciate it.

785
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Great to be with you. Buck. Well, it's uh so,

786
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: it's so tyrants. So they're not gonna finish, then we're

787
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to call. Oh man, I thought

788
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: maybe if it were not close, we would know when

789
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: you know within half an hour, we're not going to

790
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: know tonight on the show. I thought we were. Man, No, yeah,

791
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: I know, they gotta tabulate votes and stuff. I got

792
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: all excited about this. Now I'm sad. Now it's like

793
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: someone took away my whole milk and my chocolate bar

794
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: because I'm sad. Um. Yeah, we're not gonna know on

795
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: the show. Darn it. I thought I could break the

796
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: news to you one way or the other. So so

797
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: there's that. Um okay, but but still hang out. We

798
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about here. I'll tell you, Hey,

799
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: what do you think about the Judge Moore situation? Everybody,

800
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: we're not gonna know who wins, so tonight you might

801
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: as well get on your prediction now because by the

802
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: time we know the truth, it will be tomorrow. And ay,

803
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, old predictions, nobody will really hold you to them,

804
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: all right, Cynthia in oh wait wait, wait before we

805
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: go to calls, one quick thing, uh, I saw the

806
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: most interesting exit poll that I've seen so far, because

807
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: they're just flashing them up on the screens here. You know,

808
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm here with Tying Amy in the hut, and we've

809
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: got different channels on. Obviously no audio, but I can

810
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: see on the screens. Most interesting exit poll so far

811
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: is positive or negative view of Mitch McConnell or I'm

812
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: gonna go whirl for him, or I'm I'm I'm sorry

813
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: about the possibility of what's going to be in the pole.

814
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: Uh and yeah, not good for Mitch McConnell. In the

815
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: poll that I saw, I'm not sure if it was

816
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I guess it would be. Of everybody

817
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: leaving the favorable unfavorable. Sixty percent of Alabama has had

818
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: an unfavorable view of Mitch McDonald fourteen fourteen percent had

819
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: a favorable view. Now, I know the same as saying, well, Buck,

820
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: if they're asking Democrats, maybe they're all you know. But

821
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: but there's more than fourteen percent Republicans who were voting

822
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 1: in Alabama. Everybody that that may be a differentiator here,

823
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: That may be a um that may be the difference maker,

824
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: not just whether or not you believe the allegations against more,

825
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: but also the sense that a vote for more is

826
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: a repudiation of a Dick tut from d C and

827
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: the Mitch McConnell Paul Ryan establishment wing of the party.

828
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Speaker 1: To not vote for More. People are sticking of getting

829
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: told what to do. We know that that's been true

830
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: about Trump is um all along, and it may be

831
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: what we see as the deciding factor here in Alabama.

832
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: We will have to wait and see about that. All right, um,

833
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: Cynthia and Georgia, thank you for waiting and listening to

834
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Speaker 1: the Blaze Radio. What's going on? Well, I'm just calling

835
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: to let you know what I think about this roy

836
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: More situation. Yes, indeed, ma'am, what do you think. I

837
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: don't think it's unusual for a man his age to

838
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: date a teenager. My grandfather, David and married my grandmother

839
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: when she was sixteen years old and he was so Cynthia,

840
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: we have to be clear and precise here about what

841
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: we are and are not talking about. And I mentioned

842
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: this before. When you say teenager, eighteen is a teenager technically,

843
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: but eighteen is legal to marry, fighting any warre. The

844
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: only you can't do in your eighteen is drink or

845
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: rent a car pretty much, right, So eighteen is legal

846
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: for marriage and all wait wait, hold, hold on, hold

847
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: on one second, Cynthia, I'm getting there, but so, but so,

848
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: just the term teenager can be misleading, right, because there's

849
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Speaker 1: a big difference in our society and quite honestly in

850
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Speaker 1: the in the development of a thirteen year old versus

851
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: a nineteen year old, right, So that's that's important. You

852
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: mentioned a sixteen year old getting married, but under Alabama law,

853
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: sixteen is the age of consent, so that would be allowable.

854
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: The big problem for Judge Moore, the big actu usation

855
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: has been that he was, uh, he was molesting a

856
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: fourteen year old, which would be illegal and below the

857
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Speaker 1: age of consent. Right. So so when you say that

858
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: there's nothing unusual about well, if it were just sixteen

859
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: year olds that had consented to some kind of relationship

860
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: with Roy Moore, people could socially disapprove of that, But

861
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: it is by no means illegal, and I think you

862
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: could argue that entirely legal behavior would not be disqualifying

863
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: for Judge Moore. But the allegations there are two allegations

864
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: of criminal behavior. One is of relationship with a fourteen

865
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: year old, which is under the age of consent, and

866
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: I believe the other one Tyrone correct a sixteen year

867
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Speaker 1: old and says she was sexually assaulted by him even

868
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: though she was the age of consent, but was assaulted

869
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Speaker 1: by him. So, Cynthing, you see what I mean about

870
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: the distinctions here. It's important to be clear about what

871
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: we are and are not talking about. I agree, But again,

872
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a Christian, and so I believe in for kiveness.

873
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: This happened, If it did happen, it was forty years ago,

874
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: he's been married and faithful to his wife. I believe

875
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: in forgiveness, and so I would vote for Roy more

876
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: for different reasons than that. The reasons I would vote

877
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: for Roy Moore is his deep knowledge of the Constitution.

878
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: He can actually recite it word for word, the Constitution.

879
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: He understands the way the founders intended our country to

880
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: be run, and so from those perspectives, and I believe

881
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: that he is a much better choice than this Jones. Right. Yeah, Look,

882
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people in Alabama and you're

883
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: you're calling it from Georgia Rights, you're actually not voting, Cynthia.

884
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: But a lot of people in Alabama obviously agree. It's

885
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a tight race. So we'll have to see.

886
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: But Cynthia, I appreciate you calling in. Thank you very

887
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: much or your time and for being patient on hold there,

888
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: eight four four to five. We're gonna move on to

889
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: some other topics. I'm I'm still dealing with my I

890
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: should have asked my team in here. They know what

891
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: the schedule was for the election tonight, and I knew

892
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: that the polls closed at eight, but I just kind

893
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: of figured out maybe they could call it early. But

894
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to call it that early.

895
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, we're on until nine eastern here. They're probably Wampa,

896
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: probably gonna be about an hour after we're done rocking

897
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: the freedom hunt. That will know what really happened in

898
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: the race, but that doesn't. But our analysis then is

899
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: is is critical and the in the run up to it.

900
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: And hey, as I'm on air with you right now,

901
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: still forty minutes to cast your vote. One we are

902
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: the others. So this is a live game, folks, live ball.

903
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. Eight four to five, eight fodred Bucks.

904
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: Please let up those lines, Let's talk about some things

905
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back. Welcome back. Team. Lines are

906
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: lit all over this place. Let's take him Dan in Ohio.

907
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: Good to have you, sir, Yes, thanks for having me. Buck,

908
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: How are you doing good? Good? Thank you for your call. Hey,

909
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm a law enforcement officer and I just kind of

910
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: want to give a little different perspective on the shooting

911
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: that you guys were talking about earlier, and they're the

912
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: one in Mesa, Arizona, involving Daniel Shaver as the victim

913
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: and the two officers were Sergeant Langley and Officer Brailsford.

914
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: Go ahead, sir, Yes, sir, I'm a twenty year Just

915
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: give you a quick background. I've worked with Northern Ohio.

916
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't task force. I've worked on various usual task

917
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: force law enforcement officer, have been a training officer. I

918
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: will tell you after I watched the video the first time,

919
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: there were some things that I missed because I think

920
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: there was kind of a skewed view on the site

921
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: that I was watching. When I was able to watch

922
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: the whole thing, I will tell you I didn't necessarily

923
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: agree with this guy's professionalism, didn't necessarily agree with his tactics.

924
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: But I will tell you that was a clean shoot.

925
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: And the reason that I say that is, if the

926
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: hands are the things that are going to kill you,

927
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: the waistband is where the guns are kept, That's where

928
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: the drugs are kept. If somebody's grabbing for something in

929
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: one of those situations. And and make no mistake about it,

930
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: this was a all that the police got after the

931
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: Vegas shooting that there was a potentially a gunman in

932
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: this hotel, if I if I'm getting the fact straight,

933
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: somebody saw a rifle through the window, but there was

934
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: no shooting. There was no shooting, but there was and

935
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: this was also this was in February of This was

936
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: pre Vegas shooting. MC go ahead, Okay, well that I

937
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: didn't know. But these officers respond, there's a gun that's

938
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: that's apparently been seen in the window. They're treating it

939
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: as if it's a potential felony arrest, which they should

940
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: be doing. That's a good tactic. Um, this guy. What

941
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: they don't show you on most of the videos that

942
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: I've seen on the internet is this guy actually put

943
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: his hands behind his back after after being given clear

944
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: instructions to keep his hands where the law enforcement officer

945
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: could see them. Now, now, damn, we have to talk

946
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 1: about this a little bit. You watch that video, did

947
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: you did you find those instructions given by Sergeant Langley

948
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: to be both clear and h easily complied with? Again,

949
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: his tactic and his instructions. I felt left a little

950
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: bite because because here, because here's my didn't mean to

951
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: talk over you, sorry, but here, here's my problem is

952
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: that when you tell somebody who is terrified, um, I

953
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: want you to keep your feet crossed left over right,

954
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: get up to your knees, show me your hands, and

955
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: don't move, that is a very difficult thing for somebody

956
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: within a r pointing at their head to comply with

957
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: perfectly right. And then when he like puts one foot

958
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, and so at some point

959
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: it turns into when is it the when is the

960
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: police officer saying, okay, I want you to do a

961
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: handstand and oh my god, he's falling and he grabbed

962
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: his waist and I shot him. I mean, that's the

963
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: commands were almost impossible to comply with for a person

964
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: under those circumstances. Well, here's the other thing. And we

965
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: always think of of the the poor innocent guy, and

966
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what this guy did not He didn't

967
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: do anything. By the way, there was no crime. He

968
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: had a pellet gun in his room and no record anything,

969
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: and so there was nothing. They showed up to an

970
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: call what you need to understand is the police didn't

971
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: know that at the time. There's a there's no I

972
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: get that, Connor, it's that buck. If you want to

973
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: hear what I gotta say, I'll be happy to say it.

974
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: If you just want to talk over me, then things.

975
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm trying to let you talk, Sir, Go right ahead,

976
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead, guy, all right? Graham versus Connor. Are you

977
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: familiar with this this case law? No, I'm not familiar

978
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: with that case. Let me let me give you a

979
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: little bit of background, because it's the most important case

980
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: when it come to the use of force, the police

981
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: officers use of force, And what the Supreme Court decided

982
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: in Graham versus Connor was that when police officers are

983
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: faced with rapidly evolving, potentially dangerous situations, that it has

984
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: to be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer.

985
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you I think that I'm a reasonable officer,

986
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of reasonable officers who's who

987
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: have looked at this case. None of us necessarily agree

988
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: with this professionalism enough, none of us necessarily agree with

989
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: his tactics, but all of us think it was a

990
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: clean shoot. Now hold that hold on that hold on.

991
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm not talking over you out of deference to your

992
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: experience and what you're saying here on the call. Would

993
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: you stay through us, stay through the break with us.

994
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: That will get plenty of time to have you tell

995
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: us what you want to tell us. Another side, is

996
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: that all right? Because I don't, because we're gonna go

997
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: to heartbreak. I can't. Okay, all right, sir, there we go.

998
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: Dan's gonna stay with us. We're gonna continue this conversation

999
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 1: about the shooting Mace, Arizona. You haven't seen the video,

1000
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: you can go to hill dot com. I wrote about it. There.

1001
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: Dan and I are going to discuss this and then

1002
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: we'll take some other calls. We'll be right back. Sorry,

1003
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: I didn't say it's a conversation. You do not shooting.

1004
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: You shoot me straight down. You think you're gonna fall,

1005
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: fall on your face. You're we are going to shoot you.

1006
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: So that was the audio of the incident that we're

1007
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: talking about here. Uh. That was in Meson, Arizona in

1008
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: early The video is just released last week. The officer

1009
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: was acquitted of second degree murder and manslaughter charges. We

1010
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: have officer, uh. I don't know if current or former

1011
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: police officer Dan in Ohio on the line, dan Um,

1012
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: I want to let you finish your point about case law,

1013
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna ask you some questions about that audience. Sure,

1014
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: and before we get back into the case a lot

1015
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: real quick, I challenge your your viewers and your listeners

1016
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: to look at the Quincy Smith shooting. That's where an

1017
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: officer actually had a taser on an individual, not in

1018
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: the exact same situation, but in the situation where the

1019
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: individual had his hands out of sight and instead of

1020
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: having his gun out. What happened was this and when

1021
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: he told the individual to show him his hands, he

1022
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: ends up pulling a gun on the officer and shooting

1023
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: the officer twice. It can rapidly evolve in a couple

1024
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: of seconds, which goes back to my case low point

1025
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: when we're dealing with Graham versus Connor. The Supreme Court

1026
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: ruled that cops are under a lot of stress. In

1027
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: this particular situation is absolutely no different, and I understand

1028
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: that individuals under a lot of stress, but the goal

1029
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: was to resolve it to a peaceful end. And I

1030
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: understand that that didn't happen. But the individual and I

1031
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: get that you're saying there were too many commands, and

1032
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily disagree with that, but I will tell

1033
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: you this individual put his hands behind his back. You

1034
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: don't see that in every video. You actually have to

1035
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: look at different videos on the Internet to see the

1036
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: whole thing, because I think there's a bit of a

1037
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: skew on this video. People don't want you to see

1038
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: the whole truth. But the individual put his hands in

1039
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: the small of his back. And I will tell you

1040
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: every gun I've ever found on a on a perp

1041
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: was in the waist line in some place. When he

1042
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: did get shot, he had been warned twice not to

1043
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: do that, and then he stuck his hand or he

1044
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: put his hand off to the side instead of keeping

1045
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: it out in front of him, and it looked like

1046
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: he was going for the waistman. Do I neces necessarily

1047
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: agree with the tactics of officer. No. Do I necessarily

1048
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: agree with the professionalism of the officer. No, But you

1049
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: have to understand the officers operating under very intense as

1050
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: at that point in time, when the adrenaline dump, the

1051
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: dopamine dump, and we have to make split, split second

1052
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: decisions in the heat of the moment. All right. You

1053
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: know that I worked with the NYPD, right went out

1054
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: terrorism calls you that, so just I mean and and

1055
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: have law enforced into my family. And I'm with just

1056
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: by way of context and with the cops on this

1057
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: times out of a hundred, right, I call out Black

1058
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: Lives Matter for all the lies and all that. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not somebody who says every time a cops shoots somebody,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, what happened, Look what he did. But

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Speaker 1: I also think that you evaluate and I know your

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Speaker 1: citing case law, but you evaluate each instance as the instance, right,

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Speaker 1: You don't just say, well, cops can in theory do this,

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Speaker 1: Therefore in this case, it's fine. And I would I

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Speaker 1: would note Dan that it is this isn't Mace Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I believe this is Sheriff Joe are pios Uh part

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Speaker 1: of Arizona if memory serves so, I'm guessing it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty um so yeah, for you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: For I'm guessing it's a pretty pro police area. And

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Speaker 1: for the district attorney with video evidence to charge second

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Speaker 1: degree murder against the police officer, and somebody who's obviously

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Speaker 1: educated in the law sees a lot of these cases,

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Speaker 1: it's not charging a lot of cops from with murder

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Speaker 1: shows that there's there's something up here that at least

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Speaker 1: reasonable people, or I should say highly expert people could

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Speaker 1: look at this tape who are dealing with officer involved

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Speaker 1: incidents all the time and say, not only was it,

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Speaker 1: as you have said, unprofessional and problematic, but it was

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Speaker 1: he charged it as murder. Now, there is not a

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Speaker 1: racial element here because Shaver was white, the officers were

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Speaker 1: white white, so there was no political pressure based on

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Speaker 1: the narrative of black Lives Matter or any of that

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Speaker 1: to overcharge, which I know could also be a problem,

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Speaker 1: but just that's I think important context for this that

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Speaker 1: you did have. This isn't just me saying I thought

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Speaker 1: the shooting was bad. This guy beat not just a

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Speaker 1: manslaughter charge and murder rap charge. Okay, Onto the specific

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Speaker 1: fix or the tactics that were used here for a

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Speaker 1: police officer tell somebody, if you lose your balance, you

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Speaker 1: better fall on your face. Um, that is a level

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Speaker 1: of aggression. And I'm sorry, I do not agree with

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Speaker 1: his his use of tactics, and I don't agree with this, okay,

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Speaker 1: but when we go to the I understand that it

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Speaker 1: keeps turning into a discussion about how he reached for

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Speaker 1: He reached near his waistband, but he had already tried

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Speaker 1: many times to comply, and they were yelling at him

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Speaker 1: and threatening to kill him for lack of ability to

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Speaker 1: ability to comply, not willingness to comply. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know if right now I was told to do the

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Speaker 1: things that he did. Left over right, go to your knees,

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Speaker 1: raise hands, go to ground, crawl to me that I would,

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Speaker 1: with a gun trained on me and completely sober, be

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Speaker 1: able to do all that. The point about reaching for

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Speaker 1: the gun and the waist band, Dan, and this is

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Speaker 1: where I think this is the key. And clearly, look,

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Speaker 1: the jury side with you. The d A season the

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Speaker 1: way I do, the jury sees it the way that

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Speaker 1: you do. Uh. But to put this person in a

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Speaker 1: situation where he is terrified, he is being unnecessarily uh

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Speaker 1: screamed at and threatened with shooting. Uh. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: you agree the tactics were bad and the reason he

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Speaker 1: reached in his waistband was because his shorts were falling off,

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01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: because the officers told him crawl toward me. Now you

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Speaker 1: can say that they made the course go ahead go

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Speaker 1: I'll be speaking. Go ahead, dad, That's okay here and

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Speaker 1: here's where I had a little disagreement with that. Again,

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Speaker 1: if you watched the Quincy Smith video, tell me exactly

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Speaker 1: when that officer should have pulled the trigger in Quincy Smith. Again,

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Speaker 1: I need you to speak about this case, not a

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Speaker 1: case I haven't seen as a press. I understand what

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Speaker 1: you're saying, But at one point in time, what if

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Speaker 1: there wasn't going behind his waistband told that officer just

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Speaker 1: have taken a bullet before he pulled the trigger. Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that your thoughts with the totality of the circumstances

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Speaker 1: being that this guy is crying and begging not to

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Speaker 1: be shot, and has already laid down on the ground

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Speaker 1: and clearly just wants to get arrested. The notion that

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Speaker 1: at the very last minute it while he is crawling,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna try to pull a gun while officers already

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Speaker 1: have I believe at least one are pointed at him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just defies belief at some point. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they really believe this guy was going for a gun.

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Speaker 1: And I should note that I should note that afterwards

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Speaker 1: the officer said something that I thought was very uh

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Speaker 1: noteworthy in his In his testimony to the police, when

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Speaker 1: he was doing his after action, he said that I

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Speaker 1: thought he was angling to get a better firing position

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Speaker 1: at me. I mean the video you can see he's

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Speaker 1: crawling in his head is down. So I just don't

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01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: see how I don't I just don't buy it. I

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: can also show you other and I know you haven't

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01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: seen these brothers, but I can also show you other

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01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: training videos where people are putting guns in their own head,

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01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: pretending suicide so they can shoot cops. So we get

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01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: we get to a point, and you know we were

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01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: taught at one time. You know, obviously you want to

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Speaker 1: put your gun down, or you want to try to

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01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: talk to these guys down. I have a problem with that.

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: I firmly believe in public safety, but we're always being

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Speaker 1: confronted with new tactics from offenders. They trained tactics in prisons,

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01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 1: they train these tactics on the street, and it's done

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01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: in a manner to try to overcome our tactics. So

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01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: for you to sit here at playing Monday morning quarterback

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01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: and saying that, um, you know that this guy shouldn't

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Speaker 1: should have known that this guy had nothing in his

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Speaker 1: his waistband. I think that's a little hypocritical. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you your thing, and you're saying that

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Speaker 1: that police officers should go out there and we should

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Speaker 1: always give them the the offender, the the advantage and

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01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: give them these you are now now, now you're going.

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Speaker 1: Now you're going off the rails. That the way. Now

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Speaker 1: you're going off for us. First of all, I've seen

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Speaker 1: I'm not going off the rails. I would love to

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Speaker 1: take you out on the street. I would love to

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Speaker 1: put you in the situation where you're getting the the

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Speaker 1: adrenaline dump, you're getting the dopamine dump, and somebody does

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Speaker 1: have a gun in your face, or somebody has their

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Speaker 1: hands hidden and you don't know what's coming. Dan. You

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Speaker 1: you seem you seem to you seem to be going

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Speaker 1: to a place now where you understand that this is

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Speaker 1: this is about what a citizen of the United States,

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Speaker 1: what a person can expect when they're trying to comply

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Speaker 1: with police commands. This is not that the police just

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01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: get to do term in whatever they want. However they

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01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: want a district attorney charged. And first of all, this

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Speaker 1: guy did and the the reason he was found innocent, because

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Speaker 1: why did they fire him? By the way, Dan, why

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Speaker 1: did the police department fire Oh? I have I have,

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Speaker 1: I have a sense it's because they fired him because

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Speaker 1: he's a maniac who wrote you are ft on the

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Speaker 1: a r that he shot this guy to death within

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Speaker 1: the hallway. Were you were that, well, you didn't know.

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01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: It would be good for you to know before you

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Speaker 1: start throwing stuff around to somebody who has, by the way,

1185
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 1: scrapped a machine gun on and been in multiple war

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Speaker 1: zones for his country. I'd like to see you on

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Speaker 1: the street. I'd like to see you in a black

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01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: hawk go into some of the places I've been to. Dan,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that stuff here. I've been

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Speaker 1: very respectful to you. I don't want to hear that nonsense.

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01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: Thank me. Where you want to go? Okay, brother, but

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01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 1: let's don't don't play that game with me. You want

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: to go there, I'll go there. This is not about

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01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: who's I mean. No, I don't think we would enjoy

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01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: each other's company on a ride along right now, but

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01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: I think I've been very respectful of your opinion and

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Speaker 1: for you to go to the Oh, well, if you

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: ever seen I've been in cars at police doing surveillance

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Speaker 1: and terrorism suspects. My man, guess what, sometimes they freak

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01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: out and start shooting at people. Well, what else do

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01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: I need to do? But anyway that we we've dealt

1202
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: with this on the merits. I gave you your say

1203
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: you wanted to make it about something else, that's something else,

1204
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: But we're gonna move on to something else now as

1205
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: well on the show. Thank you so much for your

1206
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: time and for keeping our streets safe. I also think

1207
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: you should know the full facts before you call into

1208
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: a show and we're talking with this tyrone. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: I would just like to ask, because I honestly don't

1210
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: know he kept mentioning the dopamine dump. I assume, as

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Speaker 1: a citizen that the officer is trained for that particular situation,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not trained. So I would assume that in

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Speaker 1: a tense situation, I would hope that the cop would

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: be calmer than me, because I would be just as

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Speaker 1: afraid as that man was in the Arizona Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: Hotel Hallway. So my question to you, because I know

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Speaker 1: you know, aren't law enforcement officers trained to have composed

1218
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Speaker 1: you're in situations like that? Yes, of course, I mean this, this,

1219
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Speaker 1: this idea that. And by the way, I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: got a career patrol officer and my family. I talked

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: to him about it and he's like, yeah, that was

1222
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: a bad shoot. So this notion that I'm gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from officers like, well, I'm an officer, so you're not

1224
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Speaker 1: allowed if I policing cannot be only police get to

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Speaker 1: have an opinion. That's for one. I've heard police, somebody

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Speaker 1: who worked at the NYPD as well, say that this

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Speaker 1: was a bad shoot. The d A charged it as

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Speaker 1: a bad shoot. And you know, at what point are

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Speaker 1: we allowed to say that a guy who's blubbering on

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Speaker 1: the ground trying to pull his short stuff so he's

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Speaker 1: not butt naked in the hallway is not a threat.

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Speaker 1: I think we reached that point. And you know, man,

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Speaker 1: I have I have called out all the all the

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Speaker 1: lives from Black Lives Matter and all the stuff about

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Speaker 1: police brutality and police violence. I have gone toe to

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Speaker 1: toe and one against Van Jones on this issue on

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Speaker 1: CNN on police violence and police brutality. But I try

1238
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: to be honest about I call like I see it,

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01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: and this one, to me was a bad shoot. I

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Speaker 1: have I read the police reports, all the media reports,

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01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: every watched the video, did everything that I could short

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Speaker 1: of being there, and it was a bad shoot. I

1243
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,479
Speaker 1: don't know what else to say, but I understand people

1244
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: get people get heated intense about this, and I look,

1245
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 1: I want people who disagree with me to call on

1246
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: the show and everything else, and I think any fair

1247
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: listen over. No, I was being completely respectful of our listener,

1248
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: and I hope he feels like he was being respected.

1249
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: But I don't don't start pulling the oh well, if

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01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: you had only ever been there. I don't do that

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01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: to people. I don't say to people you're not all

1252
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: had an opinion on Afghanistan because you never been to Afghanistan.

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01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: I could do that a lot anyway. I think that's

1254
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Speaker 1: uh uh. We went into a different direction there than

1255
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Speaker 1: I had anticipated. By the way, if you have not,

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Speaker 1: I would tell you to go read go to the

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Speaker 1: Hill dot com and read my piece and see if

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01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:58,679
Speaker 1: you agree or disagree. I think, uh it's you should

1259
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 1: you should check it out. Let's take JHN in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the happy topic of the royal

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Speaker 1: more election. Hey John, Hello Buck, how are you. I'm

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01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 1: good man, how are you doing good? I'm a first

1263
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: time caller. And before I get the roy more, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to comment on the police officer he called in

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Speaker 1: a femsa um from yas from the video. There's more

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Speaker 1: than one officer in the hallway. Is that not correct?

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Speaker 1: There are two officers? Yes, sir? Right? Well if one

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Speaker 1: if if one officer, I mean he looked like he

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Speaker 1: was within maybe ten foot of the guy. If the

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Speaker 1: one officer is pinning him down, then how come the

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01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: other officer, while his arms is outstretched, cutting the one

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01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 1: over an handcuffed the suspect. That would be a normal

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01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: that would be normal procedure. And I've had officers reach

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01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: out to me be like yeah, once they're both lying

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: flat on the ground with their hands outstretched, you could

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01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: go and cuff them and take them into custody. This

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: whole get to your knees, Simon says, routine where you

1278
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: have to crawl towards me. And if you crawl badly

1279
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: and fall and your hand goes near your waist, I'm

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 1: gonna shoot you. That's that's not the America I want

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01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: to live in. I'll tell you that right now. No

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01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 1: it's not to America. I want to live in either.

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01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 1: But that's just my observation of the of the whole

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01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: situation from what I saw the video Cliff on the

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: knees and then uh to the Roy moorees thing. Uh.

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01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: My first question is is because I'm not real sure

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: hold is Roy Moore? Uh, I actually know sixties, maybe seventies.

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01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,879
Speaker 1: In the sixties, okay, and he's been at least maybe seventies.

1289
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: Was an attorney. He was an attorney, district attorney. Yeah,

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01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: he must have been if he was a judge, I assume, right,

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01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: So he's been practicing as law. There's a whole life, correct. Uh. Yeah,

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01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: I think I don't know rose Bio that well, but yeah,

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01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: I think so. Well, Uh, he's seventies, so he was

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01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 1: right in and I said sixties or seventies, he is,

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01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: And you go ahead, bro, Well's some observation of the

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01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: whole thing. Is so all the way up until now,

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 1: there's never been an allegation of the impropriety towards him.

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01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,839
Speaker 1: Is that great? Yes? That is recently, yes, sir until recently,

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01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,879
Speaker 1: that is true, yes, sir. Well. I mean my question

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01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: is if all of this has happened in the past.

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01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: Then how come he's never been convicted of anything. Well,

1302
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 1: he's past the statute of limitations now. Um. But but

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01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: I think your point is more that why didn't anyone

1304
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: raise this before, which the More campaign has certainly been

1305
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: saying a lot. Yeah, that's my whole observation of the

1306
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: whole thing. So the way I look at it, uh,

1307
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: I think I think those were false obigations. All right, well,

1308
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: John Child at shill time, and thank you for calling.

1309
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: We gotta run into a break here, but thank you

1310
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: for your time down to North Carolina. We've got some

1311
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people want to talk and you know

1312
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: what they want to talk about, not Roy More. They

1313
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 1: want to talk about that shooting. So all right, let's

1314
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: do it. Light him up eight for four to five.

1315
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Well, we found something people want

1316
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: to talk about other than the election tonight. Every line

1317
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: is lit in the hut. Let's get into it. D

1318
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, welcome. Hello, Yes, D you're on. Yeah,

1319
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: can you hear me? Yes, sir, we can all hear. Okay,

1320
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: I apologize. Hey, listen, that officer called him from Ohio.

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01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm scared that he's training other officers and using case

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: law as an excuse for execution. I mean, he's got

1323
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 1: to wake up, and I know he's listening. So pal,

1324
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: you need to wake up and get with the program.

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01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: You're here to protect and serve, not execute. And if

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01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: you're utilizing case law as an excuse to execute, and

1327
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: you're utilizing that case law to train your officers somewhere

1328
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: in Ohio, people in Ohio, you better wake up because

1329
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 1: that man that got executed in that hallway got a release. Now,

1330
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: of course you got fired for a myriad of reasons.

1331
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: We'll probably never know. Uh, for instance, what you describe

1332
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: it was. The jury wasn't allowed to know that that

1333
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,839
Speaker 1: I had your f etched into the a R fifteen

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01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: he used to kill Daniel Shaver. A weird thing to

1335
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: write on your weapon you're using as your service weapon. Yeah,

1336
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 1: you know people are right there on their service weapons

1337
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,799
Speaker 1: in the military. You know that's you are a former

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01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: military I'm guessing d Yeah, twenty six years retired officer,

1339
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: also a former police officer. So I've been there and

1340
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 1: I've done that Ohio. And uh, let me tell you something.

1341
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: I'm sick of the excuses that are coming out of

1342
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: these police departments. For things like that. That was a

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01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: blatant execution. And I completely agree with you, obviously. And

1344
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: I've had career law enforcement. I've been talking to them

1345
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: all week and they're also in the same thing. That

1346
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: was a bad shoot. It was an execution. Yeah, terrible, terrible, terrible. Uh,

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01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 1: support Trump and Ohio, we rethink your training regimen for

1348
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: your young officers. Alright, deep shield time man, Thank you

1349
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: for calling in. Guys. I know we've got lines let

1350
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: all over the place. You know what we'll do. We'll

1351
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: rock and stack him at the top of the next hour.

1352
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 1: And since we're not going to have the results of

1353
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: Roy more are unfortunately it's wrong on that one. We'll

1354
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: talk about this a bit. And we've got Matt Walsh

1355
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: joining to lay down some truth because that's how Matt

1356
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: Walsh rolls. And uh, we'll talk about some things. Gave

1357
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: some team Buck speaks. I'm gonna go, uh, you know,

1358
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: go hang out. It'll be fun. Oh eight four to five.

1359
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: If you want to call in, we've got one spot open.

1360
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: Who's next, who wants in? You'll be a ring. We'll

1361
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: be right back. Alabama polls have clothes everybody, but we

1362
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: don't have much more to say about than that. Right now,

1363
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: let's get into some calls. Matt and Georgia on the

1364
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: Blaze Radio. Hey, what's up Matt? Matt? Hello, Matt going once?

1365
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: Go all right, Matt, if you stay, we'll try to

1366
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: get you back later. George in Pennsylvania, Welcome, George. Are

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01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: you doing Hey, I'm good. I know there's someone touched

1368
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: on this a little a little bit earlier. But one

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01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,919
Speaker 1: thing that bothered me about the video. I could understand

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01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: end why they wanted the woman out of the way.

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: They had to isolate her, separate them, all that kind

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01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: of good stuff, Carl, But the guy. Once the guy

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01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 1: started moving a little bit, it was obvious that he

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 1: could not follow instructions. And there are certain people that

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01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: just cannot period. Well, he was he was a little inebriated.

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean, so basically it was like telling a drug

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: It was it was Simon says, with a drunk guy

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01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: with an a R fifteen pointed at his head. That's

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01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: what that video was exactly. And by my recollection, I

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01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: don't have the video that to look at right now,

1381
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: but by my recollection, the only other mitigating factor would

1382
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: be the fact they wanted him out of the sight

1383
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,840
Speaker 1: area of that the sight triangle from the door there,

1384
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: but he seemed to be well beyond that and at

1385
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: that point over you at that point you walk over,

1386
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: you put cuffs on him and get dragged him out

1387
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: of there. George, are you can? I ask, are you

1388
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 1: Kerner former law enforcement or military? Because you're speaking about

1389
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: this with some knowledge? No, actually I am not. It

1390
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: just it just makes this at there's a lot of

1391
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: common sense about it. I think there absolutely is a

1392
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: lot of common sense about it and just and like

1393
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: I said, it's just at that point it seemed like

1394
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: he was waiting, the cop was waiting for something to happen,

1395
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: and just kept stretching it out and stretching it. I mean,

1396
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: I I I just as as an American to have

1397
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: a police officer with a weapon drawn on somebody, and

1398
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,759
Speaker 1: keep in mind, somebody who hasn't done anything, hasn't attacked anyone,

1399
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: hasn't attacked a cop, has posed no threat to anyone,

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01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: and did nothing wrong. By the way, he wasn't even

1401
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: being arrested. The guy, literally, Daniel Shaverer, did nothing, He

1402
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: committed no crime and and was never threatening towards the police.

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01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: And to live in this country and to hear an

1404
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: officer of a law say if you fall, you better

1405
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: fall on your face because if I see your hands go,

1406
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to shoot you. Uh that's not okay, you

1407
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: know that. I just I don't care what I don't

1408
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: care what the procedures are in Arizona. I don't And

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 1: by the way, I know the patrol guide here at

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: the NYPD pretty well that's not okay. So you know

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 1: that's where I come down on it. I just And

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01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: by the way, there's a whole bunch of other things,

1413
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: like you know, the things that he said, you don't

1414
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: tell somebody who's shaking and terrified. I mean, you know,

1415
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: he said to him, young man, listen to my instructions

1416
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: and do not make a mistake. Uh. If you make

1417
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: a mistake, there's a very severe possibility that both of

1418
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: you are going to get shot. Those are quotes from now.

1419
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: Someone explain this to me. Making a mistake is not

1420
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: disobeying make him. Making a mistake is not failure to comply.

1421
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: It's surely not a threat. It's making a mistake. This

1422
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: guy was saying, I'm going to tell you a bunch

1423
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: of complicated, angry stuff. And if you don't do exactly

1424
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: what those complicated, angry things are. I'm going to kill you.

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: This is what he was saying. And by the way,

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: the guy making the commands wasn't the shooter, he was

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01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: the sergeant, so he didn't pull the trigger. Someone explained

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01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 1: that one to me. It was such a grave threat

1429
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: that the guy who's being so aggressive he doesn't pull

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: the trigger the guy next to him, Officer Brailsford. You see,

1431
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 1: I read the entirety of the after action report from

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: the police, as well as all the different available court

1433
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: documents and reports on this, so I have some familiarity

1434
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: with how this went down, and yeah, it is astonishing. Look,

1435
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: I will I will not. It wasn't just our previous

1436
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: caller who anyone who's welcome to calling and disagreed and

1437
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 1: just let's let's keep it respectful everybody. Uh. I've gotten

1438
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 1: a lot of heat from different people on this one

1439
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: because they just say the cops are right, and I say, uh,

1440
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, I've carried firearms as part of my job

1441
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: before and been in some sticky situations and been around

1442
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 1: some sketchy stuff, and I don't care what anyone says.

1443
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't care what no person could think that Daniel

1444
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 1: Shaver was honestly about to kill anybody or pose any

1445
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: mortal threat to anyone in that hallway. It's just, it's

1446
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: just it is an unreasonable pause. I'm not saying that

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01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: nobody could ever make the claim. They clearly did, but

1448
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: it's an unreasonable position, which is a while of the

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01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: district attorney in a red red pro police area of Arizona,

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01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 1: by the way, charge murder and the officers lawyer was

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01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: able to get kept out of the case that the

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01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: weapon used to kill Daniel Shaver by Officer Brailsford had

1453
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: your ft etched on it. As if Brailsford were not

1454
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: that this would be okay, But as if Brailsford were

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01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: in some you know, far off foreign land fighting against

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01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: you know, indigenous brutal forces or something, and you know,

1457
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,560
Speaker 1: like this guy thought he was and up against the

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01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: Viet Cong. I mean, like, what is he doing. He's

1459
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: a peace officer. He's there to servant, protect and look,

1460
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,839
Speaker 1: he brought his own a r or them. He qualified

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01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 1: with it. He's allowed to do that. Okay. I'm not

1462
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: not sure why he needed it in this scenario, but

1463
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 1: that's beyond the purposes of the that's beyond our discussion

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: right now. Uh, Colin in Indiana? What's up? Colin? Oh?

1465
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,560
Speaker 1: Hardie buck original squad here from the Saturday Show. It

1466
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 1: sounded like I heard you a couple of months ago

1467
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: a choir bring up a fifthy phrase to quoak Son

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01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 1: them like you got into one of those with Officer

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01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 1: Damn over there in Ohio. UM my, Uh, my question

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01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: I suppose is there's an objective line here that he

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01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: was talking about in that that Supreme Court case. And

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01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: it seems to me and I'm my only real experience

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01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 1: with since situations is uh working on four EM. I

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Speaker 1: guess that h a bar as a bounser to believe

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01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: it or not? Um, And I just I kind of

1476
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,839
Speaker 1: think that, you know, I felt was fairly sense dronk

1477
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:08,839
Speaker 1: situations than U. I never felt any kind of stress

1478
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: quite like that. Heck, I think I'm feeling more stressed

1479
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: in my phone call here. Well, col but Colin, let

1480
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I'm sorry. I don't mean to

1481
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: cut you off, buddy, but we got it. We got

1482
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: Matt Walsh calling in a second, we got a guest

1483
01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 1: lined up, so I gotta I gotta roll here. But

1484
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: I would just say that. I have also heard from

1485
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: military folks who have said that after seeing this video,

1486
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,759
Speaker 1: they have seen and I've seen videos of it too,

1487
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: but they have personally witnessed UH suicide bombers being treated

1488
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 1: with greater respect and you know, respect for their humanity

1489
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: when they were surrendering themselves, like a suicide bomber who's like,

1490
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: I want to surrender, I don't want to blow myself up.

1491
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: U S military treating that individual better than Daniel Shaver,

1492
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: who was just a guy in a hallway trying to

1493
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: go to bed and have a nice night. That's this

1494
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: is not okay what happened in this shooting. But you know,

1495
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 1: the justice system has spoken. I guess on this all right,

1496
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Matt wallsh joining. Stay with me. We'll

1497
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 1: get right to it. Call me, make fun of my nose,

1498
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: say calling I have no fringe. That was a small

1499
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: clip from a much longer viral video about a young

1500
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: man named Keaton Jones who is in middle school. His

1501
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: mother put this video up online because Keaton has been

1502
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 1: bullied very badly, and he talks about the kind of

1503
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 1: bullying he suffers. People pour milk on him, they physically

1504
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: hit him, they mock him, they say he's ugly, they

1505
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: say he has no friends. It has pulled at heart

1506
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: strings across the country. The video has been seeing millions

1507
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: of times, but it raises some questions, one about everyone

1508
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: involved here, including uh the mother of Keaton and her

1509
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: decision to publish this video online, and also about bullying

1510
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: in general and what the proper way to deal with

1511
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: it is. Matt Walls joins us. Now. He's an author

1512
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 1: the Daily Wire and the Matt Walsh Blog. He's also

1513
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: the author of the book The Unholy Trinity has got

1514
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: a piece up. Our national panic over bullying is not

1515
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 1: helping bullied kids. It's making everything worse. Matt, great to

1516
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: have you. Thanks for calling. So okay, we're I'm I

1517
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: don't like bullying. You don't like bullying. You have concerns

1518
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: about the anti bullying discussion and efforts in the country

1519
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 1: right now? Tell us how? Tell us why? Yeah? I

1520
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: think the way that we this was just kind of ah.

1521
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: This whole thing of Keating Jones is kind of a

1522
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: microcosm an example of the way that we treat bullying,

1523
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: which is, you know, we we we take these issues

1524
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: that are very very localized. I mean localized down to

1525
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: like they're happening at a lunch tandy goal between kids

1526
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: in the school somewhere, and we turn it into this

1527
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: national epidemic. We talked about the bullying epidemic, and we

1528
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: start talking about, you know what our laws we can pass,

1529
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: what are things that the government can do, Let's get

1530
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 1: bullying committees together, and we'll handle it that way. And

1531
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's totally the wrong approach. It

1532
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: obviously isn't working. It sends completely the wrong message, and

1533
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: it's also built on the misconception. Misconception is that bullying

1534
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 1: is somehow so much worse today. Um, something's happened and

1535
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: the kids are so much worse to each other and

1536
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: al than they ever were before. So we have to

1537
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: think of new ways of handling it. And I don't

1538
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: think that's true. I think there's any evidence of that.

1539
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: I think bullying is today the same as it's always been,

1540
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: because kids are the same, They always happen, because people

1541
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: are the same as always happened, and so I think

1542
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: we should kind of approach it the same way that

1543
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: we used to. And I just don't think are you know,

1544
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: are ways of approaching it today? Are working my In

1545
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: my experience, Matt, the best way to to tell people

1546
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: to deal with bullying is one for those who are

1547
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: able or willing to tell them to stand up for themselves,

1548
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 1: including physically. I feel like that's very much out of

1549
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: favor right now. And and the other option is, which

1550
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: would really be a corrollarity to that, is to tell

1551
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: people if you see someone bullying someone else, you know

1552
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 1: you should step in. You shouldn't allow that kind of

1553
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: thing to happen. Because I get the sense that any uh,

1554
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: any physical effort to defend oneself or defend someone else

1555
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: is going to be viewed by the anti bullying crowd

1556
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: is problematic in and of itself. Yeah. Absolutely, And I

1557
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 1: do think, um that it's it's really hard to talk

1558
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: about uh solving bullying or addressing and of course it

1559
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 1: never could be solved, But it's hard to talk about

1560
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 1: addressing bullying if we have ruled out the possibility of

1561
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 1: a kid defending himself physically if necessary. Because sometimes, especially

1562
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: at that age when you get kids and you've got

1563
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: ten your old kids that are picking on each other. Uh,

1564
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 1: sometimes it really is that there's something psychologically true here

1565
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 1: that the best way to shut down a bully. Maybe

1566
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: the only way in the end is just to punch

1567
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 1: him in the nose. It only takes one time. Mostly

1568
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 1: this kind of a cliche to say bully just cans

1569
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: be a punch in the nose one time, then he

1570
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 1: stops being a bully, And I think that often is

1571
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: the case. Man. It may not stop him from being

1572
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,800
Speaker 1: a bully in general, but it'll stop him from bullying you.

1573
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: We've taken that out. And I do think that. You know,

1574
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: when I was a kid growing up, my my dad

1575
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: always told me, like a lot of pop's dad sold

1576
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: them back in the day, which is, look, if you

1577
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, if you get in trouble because you punch

1578
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: a bully in the nose to protect yourself, to protect

1579
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: your sisters, you won't be in trouble at home. And

1580
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: I was told that, and that was great. I think

1581
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: that was My dad always told me the same thing,

1582
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 1: and a couple of times. I remember once I actually

1583
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: went for a double leg takedown against a bully and

1584
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: almost knocked him out, but he never bullied me again. Yeah, exactly,

1585
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: And that's and and that was you know, you talked

1586
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: about it. When our generation roller, they'll tell you like

1587
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 1: That's what my dad told me, and that was the

1588
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 1: right thing I think to tell kids thirty years ago,

1589
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: or twenty years ago or fifty years ago. But these days,

1590
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 1: the way that everything in school has been criminalized, that, um,

1591
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you tell your kids that now and

1592
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: he gets to a fifth fight next to you know,

1593
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 1: he might be going he might be going to jail

1594
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: or getting expelled. So it's like, I think, now, he

1595
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: can't really tell our kids that because the way the

1596
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: schools will way over react to it with all those

1597
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: zero tolerance craft. So the only thing left is just

1598
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: if we've ruled that out because I don't wantur kids

1599
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: to get expelled to go to jail, then the only

1600
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: thing left is to just empower them, to to teach

1601
01:26:56,240 --> 01:27:00,040
Speaker 1: them a little bit of resilience, and to just in

1602
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: the message that you know, your worth is not tied

1603
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 1: to what your peers think about you and what they

1604
01:27:04,600 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 1: say about you. So it's not that we're dismissing, you know,

1605
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 1: our kids. Fully, we're not gonna dismiss it. We're not

1606
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: necessarily um you know, uh trying to downplay it, but

1607
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: we're all we also don't want to make a huge

1608
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,600
Speaker 1: deal out of it. We don't want to because I

1609
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 1: think that sends a message to the kid that it

1610
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: is a big deal. Tyrone is giving you a big

1611
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: thumbs up in here by the way for the Sometimes

1612
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: you just got a punch ability of the nose. Yeah,

1613
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: punch him, and I think punch from the nose. If

1614
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: we can't do that physically these days unfortunately, um, although

1615
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: I still think it works. But if we can't do that,

1616
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 1: then yeah, then sometimes that the next best option is

1617
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: just to be. You know, all you can be is

1618
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: just very confident and you don't care what the person

1619
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: is saying. If they throw an insult at you, you

1620
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: throw something back verbally maybe, and then you just go

1621
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: about your day. That's the only thing I think kids

1622
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 1: can really do in school now. Um. But when they start,

1623
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 1: and I always say, what we you gotta go talk

1624
01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: to an adult, and you gotta tell all the administrator

1625
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: and get everyone else involved. Sometimes I know that is

1626
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: necessary if it it's really really bad wherever kids like

1627
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: he's being threatened, But I think most of the time

1628
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: that's not going to solve the problem, and it probably

1629
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: will make it worse for the kid when the when

1630
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: the adults start getting involved so we have to to

1631
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: some extent empower the kids to deal with it themselves.

1632
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: And if we don't do that, then I just don't think.

1633
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what else could possibly work.

1634
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: And are you up on what happened with the mom

1635
01:28:18,240 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: and the surrounding controversy here. I've seen people say, one,

1636
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: it's a little weird for her to publish this video

1637
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: in the first place. I wanted to take on that.

1638
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: And then also there's some photos Confederate flags and photos.

1639
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 1: What's going on there? Yeah? I think, um, I would

1640
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: say it's not only weird for her to publish the video,

1641
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,480
Speaker 1: but I think it's just flat out wrong and exploitative.

1642
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you start adding in the go fund me

1643
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: accounts and everything, and the kid raised fifty dollars, Like,

1644
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: I don't know how fifty dollars is gonna help him

1645
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: with the bullying. Honestly, I don't know that solves bullying.

1646
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: But unless he's gonna pay off the bullies, I don't know.

1647
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: But uh, it's just as a parent myself, my kids

1648
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: have come to me distressed and trying about things. It

1649
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 1: has never occurred to me even once to say, oh,

1650
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: hang on a second, want to grab my phone now

1651
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: repeat everything you just said. It's like, can put it

1652
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: on Facebook? Like, I just don't. I think it's an

1653
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: indpensible decision. And we see why because you you know,

1654
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: you have major kids, famous, You have offered him up

1655
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 1: like as a sacrifice to the internet. And then the

1656
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Internet does at the Internet does, which is which is?

1657
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: You know, for it's very sickle like one minute they're

1658
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: with you, and then and then just on the drop

1659
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: of a time there against you, and they start carrying

1660
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: your life apart. This is what the Internet does. Anyone

1661
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: who's ever been anyone who's ever gotten a lot of

1662
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: attention on the Internet or been the subject of an

1663
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: Internet lynch mob, um, which I have, which I have

1664
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: been plenty of times in the past, it could be

1665
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 1: a pretty overwhelming thinking for adults. And this is why

1666
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: you don't, you know, you don't put your kid in

1667
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: the middle of that. As far as okay, I personally

1668
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: don't think considerate flags are racist, that's my opinion. Um,

1669
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 1: so you know, I don't think there's any evidence of

1670
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: this woman's a racist, but these this is a convert

1671
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 1: The point is, this is a conversation we shouldn't even

1672
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: be having about this woman and her kid, like none

1673
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: of us should even know who they are. There's no

1674
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:56,519
Speaker 1: reason for us to be a national conversation. She turned

1675
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: it into that by putting this on the internet because

1676
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: people just really like atten and they want attention, and

1677
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: there's this instinct that a lot of parents have these

1678
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: days for some reason, to use their kids to get

1679
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: attention to themselves. And I don't you know, maybe it's

1680
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 1: harsh on the mother, but it feels to me like

1681
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: that's what she did and it backfired big time. Hopefully

1682
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: it's a it's a lesson to the rest of us, like,

1683
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Speaker 1: don't do that, because attention from the internet to your

1684
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: twelve year old is never a good thing. It never

1685
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: works out, So it's best to just keep them away

1686
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: from it as much as you can. We're speaking to

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01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: Matt Walsh, who's an author at The Daily Wire, reading

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01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 1: his latest at the Daily Wire dot Com. Also at

1689
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: the he's the author of The Unholy Trinity of book

1690
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 1: you can get on Amazon. I recommend it to you all.

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01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: It is Mrs Sexton, meaning my mom approved, she read

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01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: it and loved it. I will also um one more

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01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 1: thing that before we let you go, Uh, I I

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01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: agree with you. I wrote on this at The Hill,

1695
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: I know you've written about it at the Daily Wire,

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01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: that there's this impulse among conservatives now, and I think

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01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:57,759
Speaker 1: it's in response to a lot of defamatory and unfair

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01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: things said about cops, a lot of lies told on

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01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: the left about policing. But now I think there is

1700
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: a reflexive impulse on the right to defend any police

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01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: involved shooting. And I'm we're I'm thinking, of course, of

1702
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: the mesa Arizona incident where you had a police officer.

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01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: We played the audio on air. Police officer shot somebody

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01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: in a hallway of a Lakinta in and I just

1705
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,599
Speaker 1: thought it was outrageous. I mean, I thought it was

1706
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 1: an execution and the guy committed a murder and the

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01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: jury let him off, and a lot of conservatives gave

1708
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 1: me a lot of heat for it. Yeah, I got

1709
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 1: a lot of heat as well. I mean, and I

1710
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: think they're right that that. I don't want to blame

1711
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: it all on the left here, but I do think

1712
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 1: and I don't want to say, like, well, they started it,

1713
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,519
Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of that going on where

1714
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 1: the left made a really huge mistake by number one,

1715
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,320
Speaker 1: hopping on these blatantly false narratives like hands up, don't shoot,

1716
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: which was completely invented. And they also made a huge

1717
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: mistake by turning the discussion about police abuse abuses into

1718
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: a racial discussion where everything is based on race. And

1719
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: because of those two reasons, I think out of conservatives

1720
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 1: just reacted to it, uh in a very reactionary way.

1721
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 1: And so this is this is the way of course

1722
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: conversations go now in our society. But they just went

1723
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: to the opposite extreme and said, well, okay, you think

1724
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: cops are always wrong and they're always racist biggots on

1725
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: a murdering spree. That I think they're always right, And

1726
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: of course the truth is like somewhere in between, and well,

1727
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,959
Speaker 1: not really in between. I think the truth is closer

1728
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 1: to the right, you know, in that in that that, Yeah,

1729
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: I think the right is right out of a hunter

1730
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 1: on this map. But this was the one out of

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01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: a hundred, right, this is the one that this is

1732
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: the one time, and it's also it's a well, you

1733
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: cried wolf thing. We'll keep hearing about, oh, cops executed

1734
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 1: on an un armed man, and then you watch the video,

1735
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: you hear the background and you're like, well, that's not

1736
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: exactly what happened in this case. That's actually what happened.

1737
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 1: It finally really did happen with an execution of an

1738
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 1: unarmed person who was literally crawling on the ground begging

1739
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 1: for his life, and not an exaggeration, it's actually what

1740
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: happened this time. But the but the you know, it's

1741
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 1: like it's like it's like the fable that we were

1742
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: told so many times, a guy was crawling for begging

1743
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,719
Speaker 1: for his life. New shot. Turned out it didn't happen

1744
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 1: this time. It did happen, and all the people who

1745
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 1: should care, like the conservatives, who are supposed to be

1746
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: skeptical of government and quick to point out government abuses,

1747
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: they just have the years closed off from it. And

1748
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: I think that's a shame. And of course we know

1749
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 1: the media is not going to jump on it quite

1750
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: as much because there isn't the racial the racial angle

1751
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: which they prefer. So this case, although it kind of

1752
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, fair amount of attention from people like you

1753
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 1: and meet, it never got There's never a big protest

1754
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,719
Speaker 1: or we're never riot, and there was never a number

1755
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: one story leading the newscast anywhere. As far as I'm aware,

1756
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: which is astonishing because if people see the video and

1757
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: and Matt's got it up the Daily Wire, I wrote

1758
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: about out of the Hill, you should read about this

1759
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: guy's because if people see the video, it is stomach churning.

1760
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: Matt Walsh everybody author the Daily Wire dot Com. Check

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01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: out his book, The Unholy Trinity. Matt. Always great to

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01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 1: have you, man, Thank you. Team. We're gonna roll into

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01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna come back in just a few

1764
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 1: we will get into some Team Bucks speaks and some

1765
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,920
Speaker 1: other stuff too. So we've at that and much more.

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Speaker 1: Eight four four four you're right back healthy New York Times,

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01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,719
Speaker 1: giving us some insight, including his daily regiment of watching

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01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: up to eight hours of TV and drinking as many

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01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: as twelve diet cove. What is this due to the

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01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: brain in the body every day? Right? So Broke, you

1771
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: want to be healthy, right, I'd like to be Yes,

1772
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 1: I want to be healthy as well. I do as well.

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01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:31,959
Speaker 1: Everybody is trying to be healthy. So for the average

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01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: soda drinker, this is the healthier choice. Right. This has

1775
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: less calories or no calories. Right, there's some that are

1776
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: less or zero, but there was twelve due to you.

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01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 1: This essentially replaces what other liquids will provide to your body.

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01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: So your body, as you know, is mainly water. A

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01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: good majority of your body is water. Your body needs

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01:34:55,120 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: water to survive. That's essentially replacing that area in your body,

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01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: not necessarily the hydrating, but was replacing a liquid that

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01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: you can't say, which is why can't I can? Guys,

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01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,679
Speaker 1: you're probably like, what was that? That was a news

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01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: segment on CNN, And I almost I feel bad playing

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01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,839
Speaker 1: it in a sense because one of the few people

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01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 1: at CNN who was always uh considered and kind to

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01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 1: me was the anchor there, Brook Bald, and she's a

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01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,040
Speaker 1: very I do not have any bad words of any

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01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: kind to say about Brooke. It's a very nice lady.

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01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: But the producers over there determine what these segments are

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01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 1: gonna be. She's the anchor, she does the segment, but

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01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,800
Speaker 1: they're literally doing a segment on how much diet coke

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01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: Trump drinks. Now, I just I don't like to get

1794
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: into the everything we compare Obama to Trump and how

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01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 1: the media uh does what they're doing and everything else, right,

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01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: but let's just understand, could you imagine if a major

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01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,560
Speaker 1: news network did it, did e a segment in the

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01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: middle of the day on a busy newsday about how

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01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,960
Speaker 1: Obama smoked cigarettes and how bad that is for his health.

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01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 1: It would just be weird, right. I'm not saying they

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01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. I'm not saying that this is, but

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01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: I just why. And they're referring to an article that

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01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: I read over the weekend that was in the New

1804
01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: York Times didn't got a chance yesterday, and in it

1805
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 1: there like Trump drinks a lot of diet coke, eats

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01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot of is it Mickey D's tyrone or is

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01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 1: it yes, Mickey D's food, fast food in general, and

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01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: uh watches eight hours of TV a day. I got

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01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: a few things. I do you think I do? I

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01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: do not believe. First of all, two things. I do

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01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 1: not believe he drinks twelve diet cokes a day. And

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01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: I do not believe he watches eight hours of TV

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01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: a day. I'm not saying he doesn't drink a lot

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01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: of diet cokeer watch a lot of TV, but that's

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01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: just too much. Eight sounds excessive. I mean, he's not

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01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: doing anything else. Well, he's awake, but he's Twitter tells

1817
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: me that four that one believe. Oh, I think I

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01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: think he probably has on me. Look, I work in

1819
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: the media. He's actually a media guy. I bet he's

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01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 1: got monitors on, you know, all day wherever he is,

1821
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 1: and he's watching what's going on in the news cycle

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01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: on and off. But you know, there's all I think

1823
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 1: it's unfair because my guess is that they're counting where

1824
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: he's sitting and talking to people on the TV is on.

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01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 1: You know, there's like watching and there's watching. But they're

1826
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: trying to create the New York Times and then this

1827
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 1: CNN piece. They're trying to create a a situation where

1828
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 1: they think of Trump is like the ultimate couch potato.

1829
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,639
Speaker 1: You know, Trump is like Homer Simpson in the White House.

1830
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's just sitting there, like rubbing his belly,

1831
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: eating a dozen Big Max, drinking a hundred diet Cokes

1832
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: and just doing nothing but watching TV. I think it's

1833
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: a little unfair, tyrone it is. Can you drink twelve

1834
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 1: every day? First of all, I'm I'm just gonna say

1835
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: it right now. I am not a believer in like

1836
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,640
Speaker 1: the artificial sweeteners that they have in those things. I

1837
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't care what anybody says you

1838
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: should not be ingesting stuff that your body thinks of

1839
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,839
Speaker 1: sugar that's not sugar. I just think that's a bad idea.

1840
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: I also just I don't know. Look, I don't drink soda.

1841
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm putting this something out there now, folks, I know,

1842
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: I literally do. I'm not saying I don't. I don't

1843
01:38:19,479 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 1: drink soda like it's a religious issue, but I do

1844
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 1: not drink it. I'll drink carbonated water meaning Seltzer or

1845
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 1: whatever fancy you know, versions of it. You can get Pellegrino. Now. Now,

1846
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:31,720
Speaker 1: now it sounds like I need to eat some big

1847
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 1: Max and drink some diet cooks. I'm not a man

1848
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 1: of the people anymore. Well, I'll just say I I

1849
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: also don't drink soda, and also do the sparkling water.

1850
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 1: So at least you know you're not alone. Thank you. Yeah, No,

1851
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: and ties a Pescterian. By the way, Amy, you can

1852
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: just give me thumbs up thumbs down diet coke. Do

1853
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: you drink it? Thumbs down from from producer Amy. She's

1854
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: having none of it. Yeah, I think it's gross. But

1855
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 1: here's here's the more salient political fact I think, and

1856
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:00,120
Speaker 1: that is that there there are two problems that or

1857
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,280
Speaker 1: two things the media is trying to deal with simultaneously

1858
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to Trump and this New York Times

1859
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 1: profile that was just Trump is a buffoonist couch potato,

1860
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 1: That's what they were trying to say. And they're like,

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01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 1: He's all he does is watch TV, eat Big Max,

1862
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,000
Speaker 1: and drink coke. On the one hand, they clearly have

1863
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: disdain for him and for some of these habits that

1864
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 1: he has. Right the editorial board of the New York

1865
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: Times and the other people that write for these magazines,

1866
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, they're very much people who say, oh they're

1867
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 1: gluten free. I'm like, WHOA leave the celia community out

1868
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 1: of this, But you know they they're they like their

1869
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: farm to table and they're sustainable and organic and all

1870
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: that stuff. So Trump offends their sensibilities that way. But

1871
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Tie Trump doing those activities they talked about,

1872
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: eating Big Max, drinking coke, washing TV, does seem like

1873
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: an everyday guy, which does lend some credibility to is

1874
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: he actually, at least at some level, could understand what

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01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: everyday people are like in a way that these immediate elites.

1876
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 1: Immediate elites can I totally agree. I'm surprised they don't

1877
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 1: focus us on some of the idiot secrecies with his personality,

1878
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,639
Speaker 1: the third person thing and that kind of stuff, because

1879
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,720
Speaker 1: that is what separates them from regular people. Instead, they,

1880
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: like you just said, they literally humanize them more. And

1881
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: if you're working against them, why would you do that

1882
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 1: because tons of people mean, there's there's a lot of

1883
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,600
Speaker 1: McDonald's around. Yeah. If the New York Times strategy is

1884
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:24,719
Speaker 1: to make people think that the president it likes fast food,

1885
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 1: television and drinking soda, uh, that's that sounds like a

1886
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 1: lot of America to me, which is fine. But the

1887
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 1: point is that the New York Times doesn't understand that

1888
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: this isn't They look at this with disdain, and the

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Speaker 1: rest of America is like, so you're telling us Trump's

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Speaker 1: an American. Also, this tells me that the president is

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Speaker 1: a genetic freak. The fact that he can eat like

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Speaker 1: that at his age and have that level of energy,

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Speaker 1: Imagine what he could have done. He probably could have

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Speaker 1: played pro sports. I'm not even joking. Genetically Trump might

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Speaker 1: be superior to all of them. I'm not even like

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Speaker 1: a cyborg because he does will save us seventy years old,

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Speaker 1: and I mean when you see him at those rallies,

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Speaker 1: he's full of energy. How does he do it? He's no,

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Speaker 1: he's amazed. I've never seen people. For whatever you think

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Speaker 1: of his style and everything else, his in person and

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Speaker 1: I honestly wish that I had had the opportunity of

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Speaker 1: the campaign trail to go and see it, but his

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Speaker 1: in person rallies, what he puts out there for a

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Speaker 1: guy over seventy years old, I mean, he's getting caffeine

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Speaker 1: from somewhere. Maybe it is a diet coast. I'm serious

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Speaker 1: and and I hope people don't take the listeners take

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Speaker 1: that's a joke. No, I really mean that for him

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Speaker 1: to eat the things that apparently he eats because something

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Speaker 1: he kind of the McDonald's is just kind of true.

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Speaker 1: The diet coax might not be true. And have this

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Speaker 1: much energy at that age. He's different. Yeah, he's he's

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Speaker 1: he's definitely different, and he's an amazing guy. Anyway. I

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Speaker 1: just think it's interesting that CNN runs a story on

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Speaker 1: how much soda the President drinks, and The New York

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Speaker 1: Times writes a piece about how Trump is a couch

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Speaker 1: potato and what they don't realize is one it makes

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Speaker 1: everyone think wow, fake news, and two makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of other folks think, okay, so Trump is just a

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Speaker 1: normal guy. You know what. That helps Trump a lot

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Speaker 1: because he is a normal guy. We'll be right back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed our discussion of the election down

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Speaker 1: in Alabama tonight. I know it's been uh been quite

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Speaker 1: a day, quite a lot going on. I figured we could,

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Speaker 1: as we tend to do close with a story. Well

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Speaker 1: first I was gonna close with a story about something

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Speaker 1: that I thought was was kind of nice today and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it shows you that sometimes social media can

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01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 1: can work out for somebody. So and then we'll get

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Speaker 1: into some team Buck speaks. There is a young woman

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Speaker 1: professional tennis player named Eugenie Bouchard. I am not familiar

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Speaker 1: with her, even though I actually do like professional tennis

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Speaker 1: um but she is. She's considered to be very beautiful

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Speaker 1: and has an enormous social medi The following and a

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Speaker 1: while back, a guy just randomly randomly tweeted at her. Remember,

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Speaker 1: she has over a million Twitter followers, So what are

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Speaker 1: the chances she is a tennis star with an enormous

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Speaker 1: uh you know, public uh, well, social media presidents in

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Speaker 1: a large public profile and a twenty three or oh

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Speaker 1: she's twenty three. And this guy who is a student,

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01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 1: a college student named John Gurky, uh basically asked her

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, did you guys? Do you guys know what

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01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about with this one? By the way, I

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01:43:36,040 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 1: asked her on Twitter if somebody I forget it was

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Speaker 1: if someone wins the super Bowl or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it had to do with the super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and the Patriots and the Falcons. But will you go

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Speaker 1: out with me? They had a bet over the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots and the super Bowl, and she this this

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01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 1: tennis star responded yeah, sure, and just this week they

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01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 1: went on their second date. Hey who knew? So this

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01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: random college student. Good for him. Man, This is I

1952
01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:08,559
Speaker 1: think of all these phrases that were told as young

1953
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,679
Speaker 1: men growing up, you know, well, things like faint hearts,

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01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: never never win fair ladies and things like that. This

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Speaker 1: guy just went for it on went for it on

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. And now she is showing the two of

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01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 1: them together in Instagram snaps. So it's a little you know,

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01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 1: a little holiday cheer. You never you never really know

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Speaker 1: what's possible. I guess there's always the chance that if

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01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 1: you ask out your celebrity crush, maybe in fact it'll

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01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: all work out work out for you. So with that,

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Speaker 1: now into some Team Buck speaks, I should note I

1963
01:44:42,479 --> 01:44:44,920
Speaker 1: really gonna want to hear what you think about tonight's

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01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 1: election results tomorrow and for the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: So official Team Buck at gmail dot com and Facebook

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Buck Sexton if you want to get

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01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 1: in touch with us over that, all right, Robert writes

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Speaker 1: in the following Hey Buck oss member here, just wanted

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01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:04,920
Speaker 1: to drop you a line and say that I really

1970
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: like Tyrone's addition to the show. Great voice, I enjoy

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Speaker 1: some of the back and forth, and I like his

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Speaker 1: commentary when he gives it. Kudos to him and great

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Speaker 1: job on the new show, Tyrone. The people have spoken

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01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 1: time and time again they like they like Tyrone. I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. You never know what a new audience you.

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01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,160
Speaker 1: You never know. I will say that you know because

1977
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: you especially when you weigh it on sports. A lot

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01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: of people think they know a lot about sports, and

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01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 1: so the bar for being willing to hear someone sports analysis,

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty high, you know what I'm saying,

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01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: like everyone thinks they can explain who's gonna win the

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01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: next big game, and particularly on some of your sports

1983
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 1: slash political analysis, we we've got a lot of people

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01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: writing in like, wow, I really knows his stuff with that.

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Speaker 1: So i'd say, you know, it's not like you're calling

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Speaker 1: in and having a long discourse about Kanesie and economics,

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01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 1: where people just assume that whatever we're talking about is true.

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01:45:58,120 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 1: With sports, you gotta get over the like, well, I

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01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: think I know about sports too, so I'd really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I'm shocked and I'm very thankful. Yeah, well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Tyrone is an essential part of the show as his

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01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 1: producer Amy, but she's a little shy about coming on air. Occasionally,

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01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 1: occasionally we can coax her to say a few words

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01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:19,320
Speaker 1: on on air, but generally speaking, she is content with

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Speaker 1: producing the show and making sure that all the trains

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01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: are on the tracks here or as she could, keep

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01:46:24,880 --> 01:46:27,519
Speaker 1: this train on the track as much as possible. Um,

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Speaker 1: and that we're doing everything that we're supposed to be doing. Uh.

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01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: Thomas writes in with the following book, I thoroughly enjoy

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01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 1: your contributions to the important discussions about terror would like

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01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: to introduce you to my novel about embedded terrorists using

2002
01:46:43,479 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 1: weaponized micro drones. I would love the opportunity to discuss

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01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: this topic. Here's my press kid. All right, Thomas, Well,

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01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 1: congrats on the novel. And I like the hustle reaching

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01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 1: out to a radio host and just being like, hey,

2006
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 1: let's talk about my book. Um at am, I get it.

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01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be publishing a book and I already reaching

2008
01:47:01,320 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 1: out to everybody too, So good on you. I'll take

2009
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 1: a look at what you've sent me, and uh, maybe

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01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: we'll be able to get you on the show here

2011
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,479
Speaker 1: and talk. Although I don't, to be fair, I generally

2012
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,559
Speaker 1: don't have novelists on the show, just because it's not

2013
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: really what we do. Um more nonfiction here. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: Melissa writes in with the following, Dear Buck, although I

2015
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 1: respect his expertise, I have a problem with Dr Atlas's

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01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 1: evaluation that obesity is as voluntary at condition as is

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Speaker 1: smoking or the like. I'm sure his analysis was in general,

2018
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 1: but as someone with multiple health conditions that led me

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01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: to becoming obese, I beg to differ. Melissa. Well, Melissa, look,

2020
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Speaker 1: I'm not a health expert. I'm not a doctor, and

2021
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 1: I certainly don't play one on radio. I think that

2022
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: he was referring to it, and this is a problem

2023
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: you can often run into in any number of policy discussions.

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01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: But I think what he was dr Atlas was trying

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01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:59,960
Speaker 1: to refer to is in general, there is a behavioral

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01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: component that is tied to obesity, which is a major

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01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 1: health concern in this country. But I will also tell

2028
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 1: you from my pretty extensive reading on the subject, that

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01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: we are not nearly educated enough as a general rule

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01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 1: in this country. I'm sure it's true in others, but

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01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 1: I can only speak to America on this one. About

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01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:26,440
Speaker 1: the role that genetics plays in health, in weight, in uh,

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01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: physical ability, genetics is is enormously important in that and

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01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: bodies do process calories differently metabolic rates. We're not We're

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01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: not you know, We're not all born with the same

2036
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: height when we grow, and we don't all have the

2037
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 1: same metabolic rates. So it is an oversimplification, and I

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Speaker 1: would say that even if Dr Atlas were here, I

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01:48:47,400 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: think he would agree with me. Though it's an oversimplification

2040
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Speaker 1: to say that weight is just a function of behavior.

2041
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: It's just not true, And in fact, there are a series,

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01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:59,519
Speaker 1: and I am blanking on the name of the of

2043
01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:02,880
Speaker 1: the guy who gives them, and I'll try to remember um.

2044
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Speaker 1: But he's very big in the paleo community. And he

2045
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:09,680
Speaker 1: talks about insulin, insulin resistance and the role of genetics

2046
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:13,600
Speaker 1: in this and and he walks through historical examples of

2047
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:18,799
Speaker 1: people who are actually malnourished, but we're still obese and

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01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 1: and I mean in in tribal cultures where food was scarce.

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01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: How is it possible that somebody could be obese in

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01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: a place where food is scarce. Well, it had to

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Speaker 1: do with a both genetic predisposition to and a physical

2052
01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 1: state of insulin resistance, as well as the diet. What

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01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: is in the diet, you know, starchy carbs that can

2054
01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: be broken down quickly. Dr Lee, who is one of

2055
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:43,719
Speaker 1: our OSS listeners here on the show Original Saturday Squad,

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get her to call in because she's a

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Speaker 1: legit doctor and all this stuff PhD in microbiology. I

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01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 1: just like to have Dr Lee call in because she

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01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 1: gets to rattle off all these degrees that are like

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01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: real degrees that are very impressive. So Dr Lee, I

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01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: know your hope you're listening. I know you're usually listening,

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01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 1: maybe calling on Friday, and we can talk a bit

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01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:05,520
Speaker 1: about the reality of genetics in weight and insulin resistance

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01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 1: and all all the rest of it. But I take

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Speaker 1: the I take the listeners point, and I would agree

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Speaker 1: with Melissa here that it's a it's much more complicated

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Speaker 1: than just behavior, and there's a scientific basis for that.

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Speaker 1: Denny rights in the following high Buck in Florida, we

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01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: do the stingray shuffle to be to avoid being stung

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Speaker 1: at the beach? Uh do you think the carpet shark

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Speaker 1: shuffle will help ward off carpet sharks shields high Denny.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Those carpet sharks they come at

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Speaker 1: you and they don't take no for an answer, you know,

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01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean they latch on there they they they they

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01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:44,560
Speaker 1: site in on your ankle. It's like they've got a

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01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,680
Speaker 1: little EO tech or something and they go right for

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01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: the ankle and they grab whatever clothing fabric they can

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01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 1: they hold on. They start growling, and you're in that

2079
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,920
Speaker 1: weird spot because do you really, you know, how much

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01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 1: fight can you really put up against a carpet shark?

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01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: Do you look like a bully? You know? You gotta

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01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 1: watch out everybody. Carpet trucks are everywhere. You gotta gotta

2083
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 1: keep that in mind. All right. With that bit of

2084
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 1: completely useless and uh joking wisdom, I will say we're

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01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna close up the Freedom Hunt for today. Please do

2086
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:17,640
Speaker 1: send us your thoughts. Like I said, email is a

2087
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 1: great way to do an official team buck at gmail

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01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 1: dot com, also Facebook dot com, slash buck Sexton. If

2089
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,680
Speaker 1: you want to buy some gear, Christmas is coming up

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton dot com. We've got t shirts and hats

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Speaker 1: Uh So, thank you as always for joining hanging out here.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually off to go hang out with my little

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Speaker 1: sister for a dinner. We're gonna have a bro Cis feast,

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Speaker 1: which I'm looking forward to. She's a lawyer, so it's

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Speaker 1: always good to have a lawyer in the family. You know,

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Speaker 1: things get a little things at a little tricky. I

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Speaker 1: can call sis, which is very helpful. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: run off and do that We'll certainly have more after

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Speaker 1: election analysis tomorrow. Until then, my friends, you know your orders,

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Speaker 1: no matter what happens. Shields high