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Speaker 1: And now we're saying Europe not only target free speech.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've talked about that. The single most important step

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Speaker 2: Look, Qatar is not our friend. Qatar is spending hundreds

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Speaker 3: So last question, I've been personally not to make it

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Speaker 4: safeguard this relationship. If we we are not like being

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Speaker 4: attacked and under a lot of like this information campaign

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Speaker 4: that's been unfortunately funded by other players who doesn't want

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Speaker 4: to see a US Cutter relationship flourish. We wouldn't. We

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Speaker 4: would spend this money for better things, you know, to

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at that question Center and it's

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Speaker 1: one of those that just you scratch your head because

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Speaker 1: there's just part of this You're like, wait, what did

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Speaker 1: I just witness? What did I just watch? There? Like

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Speaker 1: how is this real? And the idea of like I'm

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Speaker 1: buying a place have never taken anything. I just like

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Speaker 1: it here it shows I'm a free man. Didn't ask

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Speaker 1: any questions, not a single tough question of a man

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Speaker 1: that is allowing terrorists to sit in his country and

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Speaker 1: to orchestrate more tears texts and have killed Americans.

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Speaker 2: So understand this government that is hosting Hamas, that is

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Speaker 2: celebrating Hamas, that is funding anti American propaganda and anti

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Speaker 2: Israel propaganda and anti Semitic propaganda. He's the Prime Minister,

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Speaker 2: says to Tucker, ask me whatever you want, We will

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Speaker 2: do anything you want. He also says to Tucker, we

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Speaker 2: are spending vast amounts and lobbying. Understand, Cutter spends hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions of dollars lobbying the United States government, the

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Speaker 2: United States Congress. By the way, Tucker is obsessed with

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Speaker 2: because he's decided that Jews are the source of all

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Speaker 2: evil in the world. And Cutter pays two to three

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Speaker 2: times as much as APAK does in lobbying. Do you

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Speaker 2: know who APAC is. Apack are Americans that it is

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Speaker 2: not the government of Israel. APAK are Americans who want

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Speaker 2: American Israel to have a close relationship, and so American citizens,

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Speaker 2: many of whom happen to be Jewish, although not all

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Speaker 2: of them, who support a lot of actually Christian evangelicals

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Speaker 2: also who support a strong relationship between the United States

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Speaker 2: and Israel. They do write checks, but they write checks

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Speaker 2: that that are on order of magnitude anywhere from a

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Speaker 2: third to a half what Cutter, the foreign government writes

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Speaker 2: they spend hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying our government.

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Speaker 2: And I got to say, Tucker, Tucker claims to be America. First,

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Speaker 2: he is literally buying a home in Cutter Cutter who

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Speaker 2: is actively funding anti American propaganda, anti Semitic propaganda. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, Tucker says, oh, I've never taken a

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Speaker 2: penny from you. By the way, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what kind of sweetheart real estate deal he's getting,

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Speaker 2: But who the heck what American? Let me ask you, Ben,

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Speaker 2: you know a lot of people do you know any

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Speaker 2: other American who wants to buy a home and cut

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Speaker 2: her No.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've known a lot of international people. I've

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Speaker 1: never heard of anybody going, yeah, I'm head, never to

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Speaker 1: cut her to go buy a home, not like, not

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Speaker 1: one time, No one. And I know people outside the US,

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Speaker 1: they've never said that.

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Speaker 2: Look, and I think there's a reason for it, which

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Speaker 2: is that I don't know why. I've had conversations about

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Speaker 2: why Tucker has decided by the way, Tucker is actively

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Speaker 2: attacking President Trump's foreign policy. He is furious that President

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Speaker 2: Trump decided to bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities, and even

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Speaker 2: more mad that that bombing was incredibly successful. It was

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Speaker 2: the single most important foreign policy and national security decision

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Speaker 2: that President Trump has made in the second term. And Tucker, I.

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Speaker 1: Think start War three. I'm pretty sure that's what they

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Speaker 1: said was going to happen. Isn't that right? It was

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Speaker 1: going to start World War three?

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Speaker 2: So let's be clear, it's not they. Tucker predicted if

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Speaker 2: Trump bombed Duran. Yes, he said it would cause World

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Speaker 2: War three. Number one, he said thousands of Americans would die.

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Speaker 2: Number two, and he said America would lose, Iran would

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Speaker 2: beat US. In World War Three. Now, every one of

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Speaker 2: those predictions was laughably absurdly wrong. And yet Tucker is

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Speaker 2: now buying a home and cut her and saying, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you crazy theocratic Islamist America, hating radicals, you're my people.

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Speaker 2: That is really, really, really dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the questions that we just asked there, I really

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Speaker 1: hope that all of you will share those on social media.

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Speaker 1: Share the episode on social media, share the video we

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, Let me ask a questions.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think Tucker didn't ask a single one

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Speaker 2: of the questions I suggested? I sent eight, and they

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Speaker 2: were not They were not ridiculous questions. They were actually questioned.

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Speaker 2: If you are in fact America first, and you're interviewing

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Speaker 2: the leader of this country, that that that that is

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Speaker 2: funding things that are profoundly anti American, anybody would ask

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Speaker 2: if you and I were interviewing them, we would ask

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Speaker 2: those questions. Why do you think Tucker didn't.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the same reason why he gave a

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Speaker 1: powderpuff interview with Vladimir Putin. I think it's the same

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Speaker 1: reason why he was sitting down with the head of Iran.

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Speaker 1: It is because when he goes there, he knows the

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Speaker 1: role he's playing, which is a propagandist for those countries.

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Speaker 2: I wish that were not the case, but but I

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Speaker 2: can't argue against that. He does not ask a single

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Speaker 2: question defending America. Instead, he just embraces leaders that that

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Speaker 2: that that are doing enormous damage to Americans, and and

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Speaker 2: and and and that, by the way, is I think

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Speaker 2: significantly undermining President Trump as well.

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