1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: And That's what you Really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: And Kevin An iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to you, and That's what you Really miss podcast. 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: This is a very exciting episode boy meets Glee. If 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: you will a Boy meets World a Glee crossover. You know, 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: get into it. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: They raised me, that show raised me. I'm saying, fan 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: growing so hard. So this is part two of our 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: super fun combo with Danielle Fischel, will Fredell and Ryder 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: Strong of Pod Meets World. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: So head over to the Podmets World's feed to listen 12 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: to part one of our conversation so you can get 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: into it. Then come back here for this episode. You 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: want to listen to that first half, especially for some 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: of our new inside jokes with our new very very 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: best friends. 17 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Oh we love them so much. We are playing a 18 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: fun card game called Talking Point, where Danielle picked a 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: few cards at random and then we answered the questions 20 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: very honestly, So you don't want to it's that therapy. 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: What was something you believed as a child that makes 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 3: you laugh now? 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 4: Oh, no, hard one. That is a hard one. Something 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 4: I believed. 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 5: I was very, very convinced that I was a were 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 5: wolf when I was seven to eight, and I enlisted 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: friends and we were all we you know. And I 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 5: think this was because of Michael Jackson's thriller combined with 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 5: Team Wolf, and I think I genuinely believed that I, 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 5: like how I was going to turn into a werewolf, 32 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 5: and I wrote, I have like stacks of like family 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 5: trees and tribal stuff that I was created. I like 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 5: had this whole system and belief system, and I wrapped 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 5: other kids into it. We started the wolfgang at school 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 5: and I was like really convinced. 37 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, I don't know how it was. 38 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 5: I was repeating something I talked about on the podcast. 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 6: Now you thought you were aware wolf for several years, 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 6: all the first basically all the first grade, all the 41 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 6: first grade. 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 5: I was real. 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: And I think I just. 44 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 5: Wanted it to be true. 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: Then you just realized you were hairy and that was it. 46 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: No, I just wanted it to be true. I just 47 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 5: wanted to It was like the superpowers you know that 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 5: I was hoping to get, was like that I would 49 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 5: try to do a were Wolf's. 50 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: Sold Kevin, do you have one? 51 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Come back to me? 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 4: Okay? 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: I got it, well, I thought I was going to 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: be a weather man. I was really convinced. But I 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: don't think that's crazy though, you know, I don't think 56 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: that's I used to film myself doing the weather and 57 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: was like, yes, I'm going to be a weather But 58 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: I realized I was actually just paranoid of tornadoes, and 59 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: so it was like my way of like controlling control, 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: like learning about the weather and all that stuff. 61 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: But it's like, Will, I'm so afraid of flying. You 62 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: had to learn everything there is to know about planes 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: and flying. 64 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, can you talk to my boyfriend because 65 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: it's just getting worse for him. 66 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: Will has a Will has a really good handle on 67 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: it now, so is the perfect person to talk to you. 68 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 7: I will be happy to there's ways you can you 69 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 7: can get through it. 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic, Absolutely, Jenna, do you have one? 71 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 6: You know? 72 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: Again? 73 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Producers this you may think this sounds cliche, but I 74 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: was a very gullible child, and so I thought that, 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: like if I ate a watermelon seed, a watermelon would 76 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: grow my belly. I thought that if I drank a 77 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: mento and had some Coca cola that I was going 78 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: to explode internally. 79 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: I thought, I'm sure how that one isn't true to 80 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: be honest in a bottle but not work in your stomach. 81 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: Come on, you guys, somebody's had to have a mento 82 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: Annesota though, and not expect. 83 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: Right, I can't. 84 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 7: I don't know. 85 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 5: I would start regulating that, Yeah, it's not. 86 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 8: Going to. 87 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: Healthy, right. 88 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: And yeah, and like eating before. You know, I never swam. 89 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: If I ate, I had, I always waited thirty minutes. 90 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: I always waited thirty minutes because I was terrified that 91 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: I would drown. So I was a very gullible child. 92 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 7: Danielle, do you have one, because I don't, really, I don't. 93 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 7: I knew everything right away. 94 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: I was actually gonna say something kind of similar, which 95 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: was that I didn't believe anything. 96 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 9: Ever I first like, I didn't believe in as a kid, 97 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 9: you didn't, Yeah, no, And. 98 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: Here part of it, I think was that, you know, 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 3: my half of my family is Maltese. They're from the island, 100 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: the country of Malta. They have thick accents, and from 101 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: the time I was very young, my grandfather, with his 102 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: thick Maltese accent, dressed up as Santa and surprised us. 103 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 4: And it's on video. I'm only like three or maybe 104 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 4: four years old. 105 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 3: My grandfather comes walking in and he's like ho ho, and. 106 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 4: I go, it's Pa. We called him Papa, and I go, 107 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 4: it's Pa. 108 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: And then look at my mom who's holding the video camera, 109 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: and I realize, oh, I'm going to ruin this for 110 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: my cousins. And I stopped myself and then I look 111 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: like I know what we're doing here, and like I 112 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: remember thinking, well, this makes no sense. There's a man 113 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: he flies around or the entire night, the whole world, 114 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: and everybody gets something and he goes the chimneys not 115 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 3: buying it. Like I really remember thinking that about everything, 116 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: Like didn't buy the Easter Bunny, so and I had 117 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: a street. 118 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: I also put a warning on this episode. 119 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: I have the tooth fairy. 120 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 7: Nope. 121 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: No, But my mom also made that. 122 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: My mom made that easy for me because she was like, 123 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: I refuse to sneak into your bedroom and do something 124 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: under your under your pillow. So she made me a 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: pillow with a little pocket in it, and it hung 126 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: on our front door, and we put the tooth in 127 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: the pocket. And then all she had to do was 128 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: take the tooth and put the money in there, so 129 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: that I have to deal with the sneaking into our 130 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: room and hoping to wake us up thing. But I also, 131 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: like really had a hard time with authority. 132 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 4: I don't think I believed. I just know everyone's wrong. 133 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: I'm right. It was generally how I lived my childhood. 134 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 5: Will, I know your answer. You you thought smoking was 135 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 5: okay as a child. 136 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,239 Speaker 2: I still do the surge in general. 137 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 7: What that know. 138 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 6: No, I'm kind of in the same boat as Jenna, 139 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 6: where it was like I truly believed for a while, 140 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 6: if you stepped on a crack you'd break your mother's back. 141 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 6: If you swallowed gum, it would stay in your body 142 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 6: for seven years. 143 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, So that got me. 144 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, like all those kind of little things that and that, uh, 145 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 6: you know, the entertainment business was a wonderful and safe 146 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 6: place to be. 147 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 7: So those those things. 148 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 6: Were yeah, exactly, But No, I. 149 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 7: Was that same kind of way with the you didn't swim, 150 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 7: do you eat? And all that kind of stuff. Yeah, 151 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 7: but I still believe in Santa obviously. 152 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: Oh, what do you think it means to be successful? 153 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Oh? 154 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: I'm going to start with Will, because I think Will 155 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: knows the answer to what he thinks it means to 156 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: be successful. I think Will has thought about this many 157 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: times in his life, and it's maybe changed and adjusted 158 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: over the years, and I think Will feels like he 159 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 3: has a good answer for this now. 160 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 7: I think you're right. 161 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 8: Money, money on giant piles of money, surrounded by naked 162 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 8: women screaming my name. 163 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I know. 164 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 6: You know as somebody and it's not to be cliche, 165 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 6: but as somebody who went through a very dark time 166 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 6: with mental illness. What success meant to me completely and 167 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 6: totally changed and waking up every day? I mean I 168 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 6: when I say I was alone for seven years, I 169 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 6: mean I mean there was times I didn't leave my house. 170 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: I was alone, not just times, there were long stretches youse. 171 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 172 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 6: So to wake up every morning next to my wife, 173 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 6: who is my best friend and the greatest person for 174 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 6: me I've ever met in my life, and for us 175 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 6: to laugh every day and to enjoy my work again 176 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 6: with my friends, that's I'm that's. 177 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 7: One hundred percent success for me, nothing else. 178 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 6: If I could do this forever, I would be so happy, 179 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 6: And that's success for me. It used to be, you know, 180 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 6: I needed to get on the next sitcom. I needed 181 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 6: to start this. I need to have a bigger deal 182 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 6: I needed to do a movie, I needed to make 183 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 6: sure and. 184 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 7: All of that just fell away. When you realize that 185 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 7: being okay in your own mind and body is the 186 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 7: most important thing in the world. 187 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 6: And then finding the next steps in life to then 188 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 6: allow somebody access to me, somebody like my wife, to 189 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 6: open up enough to have a successful relationship, that was 190 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 6: success to me. Everything else just became fluff. My friend 191 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 6: said it the best. He's like, you find yourself, you 192 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 6: find love, and everything else's colored bubbles. 193 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 7: And I think that's absolutely true. So that's mine like that. 194 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 4: I love it. 195 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: Great answer, Very good, Jenna. 196 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 4: What about you? 197 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean kind of going along with some of 198 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: the things that Will said, Like I think all of 199 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: us as child actors are in the business, there was 200 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: a lot of worth wrapped up in self worth, wrapped 201 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: up in our success of what we achieved and these 202 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: external factors. And so for me having to do a 203 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: lot of work into my adult life after Glee and 204 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: realizing that work wasn't everything, and that I wasn't it 205 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: wasn't didn't matter what what I was, what job I 206 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: was getting, that I was still worth something. Yes, I 207 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: think success is truly being able to look yourself in 208 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: the mirror and saying that you have self love and 209 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: that you're worth every day that you get because it's 210 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: such a gift. So I think that is really a 211 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: real sign of success because then you have the tools 212 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: to do whatever you want and you'll be successful. 213 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, right, you're worth every day you get. I 214 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 7: like that sentiment a lot. I like that sentiment a lot. 215 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, writer, how about you? What does it mean to 216 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 4: you to bess? 217 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 5: Like we're all kind of saying similar things, but yeah, 218 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 5: I think that for me like that, I've had the 219 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 5: same sort of realization about especially when it comes to 220 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 5: our industry. But I feel like any any you know, 221 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 5: ambitious industry or goals in life. It's like you think, like, O, 222 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 5: if I just make this amount of money, or if 223 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 5: I'm on this type of show where I have this 224 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 5: this career, I'll be happy then, And of course you 225 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 5: realize that whenever you make it to whatever the next 226 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 5: level is, it's there's something else, right. It's like people 227 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 5: who are nominated for Academy Awards are then like, gotta 228 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 5: get that next one. It doesn't matter, I got to 229 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 5: go for any doc. You never arrive, right, you never 230 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 5: arrive in that sense in a way that I think 231 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 5: I really thought in my twenties that I was going 232 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: to arrive in some sense and like make it, and 233 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: of course it doesn't happen. But at the same time, 234 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 5: I've I thought about, like there are people I know 235 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: who maybe are like kind of full of self love 236 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 5: and like but not ambitious at all. They just want, 237 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 5: you know, they just sort of check out and like 238 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 5: maybe you're like getting all the time or like living 239 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 5: lives without any responsibility. And I don't think that's successful either. 240 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 5: I mean, maybe it's fine for them, but I'm I 241 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: like ambition. I like having artistic goals, expressive goals, cultural goals, 242 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 5: political goals, like I love I want to change the 243 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 5: world right, Like I want to make things even not 244 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 5: just for other people, but for myself and my family 245 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 5: and people I love. So I've been thinking about this 246 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 5: a lot, like what do I think of success and 247 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 5: who are my heroes? And I think it's setting goals 248 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 5: for yourself on your own terms and then going after 249 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 5: them and like achieving those goals and all and and 250 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 5: for me, those goals are now more process based, like 251 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 5: what do I want to actually get from this goal? 252 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 5: As a process, like what do I want to wake 253 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 5: up every day and do towards a goal? And that way, 254 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: even if I don't quite achieve the dream dream version 255 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 5: of it, I've had a great time, you know. Like 256 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: for me right now, it's like writing, you know, like 257 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 5: I can I can set out to write something and 258 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 5: like whether it's like the biggest tip the script cells 259 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 5: the novel gets published. I enjoy the process so much 260 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: now that I'm like, that's that. It's just good to 261 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 5: have that goal and yeah, so's it's a fulfilling my 262 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: own goals, I guess is kind of like success now. 263 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: I like that fulfilling your own goals. Kevin, what about you? 264 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: What does it mean to be successful? 265 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 5: You know? 266 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: I think how you all described writer at the beginning 267 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: of being fully authentic in every aspect of your life 268 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: all day. I think that to me is a gigantic 269 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: level of success because it also takes learning about who 270 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: you are to get there, being okay with who you 271 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: are and no matter whether it's in the entertainment business 272 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: or just hanging out with friends and going to dinner, 273 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: whatever it is, you were still showing up as you 274 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: And do you like that? And you're okay with that, 275 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: and you're confident that you're not going to nail it 276 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah, right, But feeling like I'm not 277 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: being influenced or swayed by my surroundings. And also I'm 278 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: just copying writer's life here, like saying yes to the trips, 279 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: all those things. Like to me, it's like being able 280 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: to be mobile in that way, and also want to 281 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: do that, want to I want to see things I 282 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 2: want to learn, and if I'm able to do that 283 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: in some sort of position to figure out how I 284 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: can make those things happen. It may not look it 285 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: may not look like how I thought it was going 286 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: to look like how I get to that next place, 287 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: But being malleable and being okay with however it happens. 288 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you're still showing up 289 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: as you I think. 290 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: That is and not taking away anything from anyone writer 291 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: or anything you said, Kevin. But I also would just 292 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: like to acknowledge that there's also an immense amount of 293 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: privilege in that too. 294 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: Not everyone pullly a hod thing is based in privilege. 295 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: Like appreciative of how I've gotten to a place where 296 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: you can I don't have kids, I'm in a financial 297 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: place where I can't say yes to doing those things. 298 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: Or even just where you live, whether or not who 299 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: you are, you feel safe in the place, and I 300 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: live to truly be able. 301 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: To live that authentically. 302 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: So it's at least worth acknowledging that that level of success, 303 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: which I also agree with you, is that type of 304 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:12,119 Speaker 3: life is everyone's goal should be to live as authentically 305 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: as they can, and it's a privilege everyone should be afforded, 306 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: and not everyone is. 307 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 5: And so. 308 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 3: Let's all, like writer said, strive to create a world 309 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: where everyone can feel safe to live that authentically every day. 310 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 3: I think for me, and it's just probably a quick 311 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: summation of what all of you have said, But life 312 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 3: is really just a series of transitions, and you can 313 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: separate it into like personal transitions and professional transitions. 314 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 4: And I think. 315 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: Willfully and willingly transitioning between each different phase of life 316 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: that you're in is my definition of success. Not fighting 317 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: against the next stage of life, not pining away for 318 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: a stage of life I no longer have, or thinking 319 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: about what the next stage is that I'm trying to 320 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: get to, but just recognizing the season or stage of 321 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: life that I am in and saying this is where 322 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: I am, and I'm going to make the most of that. 323 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: And eventually this will also pass, and there will be 324 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 3: another transition, and I will willfully and gleefully go into 325 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: that next one as well, even if it's a time 326 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 3: of hardship, or even if it's you know, writer and 327 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: I've talked about this a lot, and Jenn, I'm sure 328 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: you relate with being a parent. The transitions. You see it, 329 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: You see it happen with your kids. You're like, Oh, 330 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: we're in such a good phase, and that phase lasts 331 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 3: for two or three weeks, and the next thing you're like, oh, yah, 332 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 3: we're in such a man hey, when this is ever 333 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: going to be over? And then all of a sudden 334 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: it's gone, and you're. 335 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: Like, oh, yes, they all come and go. 336 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: And I have had many of those in my own life, 337 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: and I see it with friends as they age and 338 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: maybe they're in a new stage of life that they 339 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: don't like and they're pining for a time in the past, 340 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: and I think I don't ever want to do that. 341 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: I just want to welcome the next stage and season. 342 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: So for me, my definition of success is happily transitioning 343 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: and accepting those transitions as they come because you cannot 344 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: avoid them. 345 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: That's right. Well it was beautiful, guys, This was so fun. 346 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 3: When can we get together and like, you know, eat 347 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: hibachi or something. 348 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, I see that. 349 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: We really do have to add you know, we have 350 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: to do that group WhatsApp for anything. 351 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: I think you're right. Yeah, one more question? 352 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: Would you rather be a giant mouse or a miniature elephant? 353 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: Can I go. 354 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 4: You're the only one who has an answer? 355 00:17:54,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 2: Yes, because Okay, growing up, people would ask you my 356 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: name and I would either say Mickey Mouse. And then 357 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 2: because I always I've had gigantic ears, I've grown into 358 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: them a bit, but as a child they were the 359 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: exact same size. So the other thing was Dumbo. 360 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: Oh, and which one would you prefer? 361 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: Elephants? I don't know. If you watch videos on like 362 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: Instagram or TikTok or YouTube, they are so smart, they're community, 363 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 2: They're just brilliant. I would love to be a miniature elephant. 364 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 6: What what does miniature mean? Can we get some definition 365 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 6: of the size here? What is giant and what is miniature? 366 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 6: Like a baby elephant? 367 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 4: This nature, I think it has to fit in your palm. 368 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, imagine if you'reniature, you're not tiny. 369 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: Size correct. 370 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would do that in a heartbit. 371 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 7: Absolutely. 372 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 5: I love the idea of like like Honey, I Shrunk 373 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: the Kids was a seminal film for me. 374 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 7: I love shrinking. 375 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 5: I like ant Man is my favorite. They were almost 376 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 5: killed several times. 377 00:18:59,280 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: Do you watch? 378 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 10: But the world is such a big adventure and if 379 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 10: you're an elephant, you're pretty tough. People are like, yeah, 380 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 10: a mouse would be a little miniature elephant. 381 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: For me as well. Yeah, you're a miniature elephant too, Yeah, elephant, 382 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 4: are you a giant mouse? I'm a giant me too. 383 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: I'm a giant mouse. Get out of my way, say elephant. 384 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: Bring me cheese, bring me the. 385 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 3: Big wheel that they make your pasta in a restaurant. 386 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: That's not just your pasta, that's your that's your breakfast. 387 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you. 388 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 9: Yeah. 389 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: No, split the room is split. 390 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 3: As someone who has spent her entire life barely inching 391 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: past five feet, I've spent enough time feeling miniature. 392 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 4: I think I want to be a giant mouse. 393 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: And if people are totally disgusted by me, you know 394 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: what that means, Just some peace and quiet, leave me 395 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: at just get away from me. Yeah, I'm correct with 396 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: all my stuff, all my cheese, and my strings and skins, 397 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: pouring them in my cheeks, and I'm glowy and I'm 398 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: covered in stuff. 399 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: Beautiful mouse, bringing all the cheese. 400 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: Bring me all the cheese right now? I need yeah, yeah, 401 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: get this little Oh my god. 402 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: On the other hand, I do love miniature things and 403 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: the idea, of course, many many, many yes. Why it's 404 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: like the French fries and McDonald's happy meals, and they're just. 405 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 4: They should be in a frame. They're so bad. 406 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 7: It's so cute. 407 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: I get it. 408 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: You go an episode without the bringing up McDonald's. 409 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: Ken a lot of McDonald's past week. 410 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 7: I will text. 411 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 6: Danielle and be like, all right, we're going to Chicago 412 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 6: this week. There's an international McDonald's nine miles. We found 413 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 6: ourselves in ubers in random cities at eleven o'clock at night, 414 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 6: just trying to find them. 415 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 4: Going to get a McDonald for a second meal. 416 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 5: Those are second meals. 417 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 2: That's after we've all been to dinner. 418 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: And I find out the next morning that these two 419 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 5: also got McDonald's at eleven o'clock at night. 420 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's We're giant mice, What do you want? 421 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: I go to McDonald's. Every like new country I go to, 422 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: I find McDonald's and guards so I can Well, you've. 423 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 7: Seen the TikTok video. 424 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 6: It's either TikTok or Instagram where it's the only word 425 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 6: that's completely universal. The guy literally goes around and all 426 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 6: the sizes McDonald's and every country like, oh, McDonald's, and 427 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 6: they point to where it is. 428 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 4: You want to know. 429 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: One of my other favorite things about Will is that 430 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: he has no social media, but he's one of the 431 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: most online people I know. If there's a viral, trending, 432 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: TikTok thing or a video, he has seen it and 433 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: he'll bring it up to you. 434 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 4: Have you seen that one recently? 435 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, I'm like, are you just stealing Susan's phone? 436 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 7: Giant Giant Mouse knows all. That's just the way it is. 437 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: I love this lore, I know. 438 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 3: Well, thank you Jenna Ushkowitz and Kevin McHale for being 439 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 3: here with us for our pod swap. 440 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: We really enjoyed this. 441 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 3: We we do need to do this again, just over 442 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 3: a meal. I won't even bring the questions. I think 443 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: we have plenty to talk about based on this. 444 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: We're going to have a problem. 445 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 4: No, I think it'll be fine. Kevin. 446 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 3: I expect a text message later with some photos of 447 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: some of your bags, because now that's all I'm going 448 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: to be thinking about or what its great? And Jenna, 449 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: I hear he learned it from you, So Jenna collection, 450 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 3: I want to see some of those. 451 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: Please before we go. I need Jenna to confess one 452 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: of her crushes when she has a child. 453 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 4: Wait. 454 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: First of all, I never had to see you guys 455 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: at the iHeart Festival, so I never got to fangirl 456 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: at all. I watched every episode of your show from 457 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: the beginning till the end. I put it on as 458 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: a comfort show. It still brings me joy. So I 459 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: really I loved your show, You guys and all of 460 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: you just like such a seminal you You raised me essentially, 461 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: you really did. 462 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 7: Why did you have Riders Strong on your wall? 463 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: I did? 464 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: I had like J fourteen magazines there you go, and. 465 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: I was like, am I going to tell them? Am 466 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 4: I not going to tell them? Thank you? 467 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: Kevin McHale, Well, I was going to let you get 468 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: away with that. 469 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: Never J fourteen mags. You know, Tiger be like all 470 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 4: of them four you don't. 471 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: Okay, they had like the foldouts too, so you're like, yeah. 472 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 5: I was on a wall in Long Island. I was there, 473 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 5: Thank you. 474 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: It wasn't just one wall. I think I could name it. 475 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. 476 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: It's such a joy to meet you guys finally and 477 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: do this, uh this plot swell. 478 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: Well, we look forward to seeing you both again. Thank 479 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: you so much for being here. 480 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Bye. 481 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: Can they adopt us? 482 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: Please? 483 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: Can we just be with them for forever? Please? I 484 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: love them. 485 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: I was so jealous when you were talking about them 486 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: when you met them at that I Heart Radio festival 487 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: in Vegas. But I was like nervous to meet. 488 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: Them because Ryder was there. 489 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 4: Okay, this was a teenage crush. 490 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: Well, actually this was like a twelve year old crush. 491 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: He was on my wall. 492 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: He was like the first like bad boy motorcycle, white 493 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: T shirt wearing kid I ever saw in like the 494 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: media or in like t on TV. 495 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 496 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: Because they were young, We were young. They were in 497 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: like elementary school when they started this. 498 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: I get it, and I'm I didn't say this to them, 499 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: but as someone who also was probably not able to 500 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: recognize how I was feeling towards boys. I was like, 501 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: it's one of those things that I do I want 502 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: to be friends with him? Or do I want to 503 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: be with him? Or do I want to be like him? 504 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: Right? 505 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: Like you, you can't differentiate between those, sure when you're 506 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: that age, and it's like the hair beautiful. 507 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: Circle moments these days with our podcast. 508 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: Okay, well remind you and go listen to part one 509 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: of our convo on the pod meets World Feed. 510 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: And also listen to their show if you haven't listened 511 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: to the show. They're so wonderful and insightful and just 512 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: like some good, good people. Yeah, thank you to Pod 513 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: means Well for having us, Thanks for coming onto our show, 514 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 2: and thanks for Danielle for hosting basically all of us. 515 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: That was so special. Dreams do come true and that's 516 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: what you really missed. Thanks for listening and follow us 517 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: on Instagram at and that's what you really miss pod 518 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: make sure to write us you and leave us five stars. 519 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: See you next time.