WEBVTT - The Green Dream or Whatever 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.840 You're listening to Waiting on Reparations, a production of I 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:07.200 Heart Radio. Every time I opened an episode up on 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:13.000 this beat always go off. Let's see what happens this week, 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:16.599 way before the natural disasters are get involved. The Roman 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.560 is gonna burn. You wanna learn to the city's fall. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.400 Crooked politicians will come in and try to stall. The 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.759 only benefit is the climate will kill them all. You 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:25.320 think the ship is a show and you hope it 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.320 will get us solved. One day you covered in snow 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:29.280 like a day is after the Ball. I don't even 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.120 like that movie. There's nothing but bum He had Dennis Quaid, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.320 he and his brother fucking with Trump. This is real 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.120 m C Ship true us in the deepest only want 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:38.960 to see the deal if it be the greed is. 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:40.920 Only want to eat a meal if it be the 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.519 cleanest fucking sweatshop. Make my suits by the seamstress. I'm 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.320 making me swish. Eat you like a deep dish. Dope knife, 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.639 smoke too much dope bottle me ship, But I mean this. 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:57.680 I love you. Hey, how y'all doing today? My name's 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:06.160 Dope Knife. We are waiting on Reparations. So this is 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:11.520 our first fully remote episode. Yeah, my asses in Myrtle 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.679 Beach pretending to have a good time. I've walked, I've 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:18.840 been on the beach one time. You've been to three 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.480 days that I've been here. There's an actual beach and 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.520 myrtle actual beach. I'm staying right on it. It's called 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:29.000 as I don't know why. I mean, well, you're kind 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.920 of taking your little pre Christmas break. I thought it 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.080 would be nice to have a change of scenery, less 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:39.199 reminders of dead cat and oh, you know, beautiful beach 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.720 walks every day to calm and cleanse my spirit. And 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.959 instead I just sleep all day and hang out my 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:52.720 parents who are watching fucking MSNBC and Ramen like normal. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.800 Hasn't it kind of ended up being a working truit. Yeah, 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:03.520 I mean, I have my dissertation proposal presentation tomorrow, so 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.680 I'm gonna find out tomorrow whether they're gonna let me 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.200 do the dissertation as I have proposed it and have 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:12.360 written that proposal over the last year and a half, 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:15.119 so you're gonna have to defend it and everything. Yeah, 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.320 and so I've proposed it as a series of hip 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.800 hop mixtapes, like I'm hoping they will let me do 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:26.600 a wrap, which is I mean, it does have some 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.680 academic merits, Americuman is that I wanted to be accessible 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.440 for hip hop audiences as well as educators and likes. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.200 So let it stop me throwing on the in the 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.080 car and listen to And when you listen to it 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:42.200 like ten times, you're like, oh, ship of course, analysis, 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.440 that's the whole that's supposed to be the power, the 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:49.440 educational power. Do you absorb it similar to like an 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.320 Aesop rock record where you slowly unravel it over like 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.600 ten or twenty lestens as opposed to just like who's 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.120 gonna sit down and read this thing? No? One? Three 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.920 people and then it's never going to be looked at again. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.840 So he'p gonna let me do that, and then it's 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.280 partially for cloud. Let's be really honest. I don't think 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:07.280 that woman has ever done that before. Um, there is 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.000 a man who I hope to have on the show 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:12.400 one day who was a professor at I believe the 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.480 University of Virginia, who got his PhD at Clemson and 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.119 did like a rap dissertation. But I don't think any 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:20.960 ladies have ever done that. So it will be the 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.760 first so that they get do they get any of 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:26.720 that on camera? I mean, you can listen to his album. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.040 Oh word, so this whole album is like the dissertation. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.600 Oh shit, Okay, well damn yeah, what's just so? What 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.240 is uh? What's the plan after those? Are you planning 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.720 on going back up for like Christmas or to what? Like? 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:44.320 Travel wise? I mean, I uh like you because you're 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.840 you're with your your folks right now with my pops. Yeah, 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:51.080 so you're gonna go see you mom Christmas? Are you 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:55.440 see my mom on Christmas? Um? Holiday has been a 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.240 lot to her, partic really since the passing of her 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:02.280 sister two years ago, and up, um, I think I 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:03.960 mean a lot to her. So I'm gonna try to 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.400 do that. You know, it tested everything. Make sure I'm 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.360 bringing the road of home and you know, bringing the 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.120 road down the chimney. That's why I'm not going out 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.360 because my parents, my mom's all the way in Virginia 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.440 and it's just I don't know, I just don't feel 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.360 neither of us feel like I should be traveling right now. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.800 Over that time, I took you to North Carolina with 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.960 me and then we stayed up all night watching Black 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:27.839 Summer with my mom. Before we took you to the 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.440 bus station to get the bus to Virginia. Yeah, and 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.200 then we watched that alligator movie too. It was that call. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.680 I don't know, you know what that's like the that's like, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.760 that's an awesome crawl. That was the name Girl with 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:45.360 all the Gifts. Yeah, that was a dope night krawl 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.440 was really dope. That was surprising, isn't it. I don't 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.279 you know, I don't remember. I mean, I just remember 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.800 it was like the big alligator that was eating motherfucker's 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.200 in the house. But like, doesn't that kind of didn't 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.240 that a little a little bit have to do with 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.880 climate change or some what's wasn't like a flood of 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:09.000 this week? Yeah, rising sea levels, disruption of ecosystem, pandemics 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.760 as well, that's you know, displacing animals that then come 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.400 in your home and big as crocodiles bite your handoff 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:20.279 and then you gotta like call national bar. Ship's fucked 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:25.360 up today? Is um? It's kind of part of our 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.359 Spitting Images series a little kind of in the sense 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.240 that we are going to be talking to somebody who 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:37.080 had had you know, one foot in the well, I 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.200 should say, both feet firmly in the music industry in 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:44.160 the hip hop game, and now they're very heavily involved. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:47.520 Then doesn't have like a con and Jeezy like hitting 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.720 him up like how do I support your campaign? And yeah, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.960 well the differences who's got the differences? He has them 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.719 hitting up asking about how do you support my campaign? 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.360 Not yo, how can I get such and such artists 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:00.480 to feature on you know what I'm in. So it's 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:03.360 like he's like, well, as he's gonna you know, talk 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.560 to us about he uses he's still using you know, 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.280 skills that he got in the music game within politics. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.040 But that's that seems to be a theme for our 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.240 Spinning Images series. But we're gonna be talking to Daniel Blackman. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.400 Why don't you tell the people a little bit about him? Yeah, 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.760 so Daniel, I've met Daniel Shortley before the pandemic started 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.440 at a Japanese restaurant in Atlanta. Shortly after in Atlanta 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.400 for Bernie rally that I was a speaker at. Didn't 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.360 know Daniel at all. He was introduced to me through 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.280 a mutual friend um and I learned about, you know, 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.760 his previous work with Bernie Sanders that he was running 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.800 for Public Service Commissioner, a little bit about what public 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.680 service commissioner is. So he's running for a public service 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.960 commissioner in District four, which is Northeast Georgia. But these 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:52.560 seats they are elected statewide. UM and so in addition 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.560 to UM, the Senate runoffs in January, on January five, 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.720 people also have the choice between Daniel Blackman in this 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:06.159 their dude Bubba McDonald, which sounds sounds like funitly looks. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.039 So I've been, uh, you know, as part of my 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.120 like canvasing initiative that I have been spearheading in Athens, 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.000 We've been focusing heavily upon support for Daniel in the 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:20.080 runoff because people, as we've talked about previously on the show, 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.560 tend to forget about down bound by like candidates even 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.560 though they have like such a huge role in things 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.720 like you know, our local ordinances, our local laws, state 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.000 state wide legislation like minimum wage, minimum wage hikes, in 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.200 marijuana legalization, but the Public Service commission in particular. I mean, 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.040 like here we are middle of the pandemic. People are 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.760 getting their fucking power shut off, They're getting their water 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.120 cut off, or getting their their kids don't have internet 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.160 to be doing virtual school. Our power Bill, I mean 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.640 our house gets cultes hail. Yeah, we got one of those, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.880 one of those over the windows, so like keep eating 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.840 and like all this ship because that should be like 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.080 a month. We got one of those other houses where 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.720 it's like the conductor of everything that's going on outside. 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.040 So when it's when it's hot outside is super high here. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.200 When it's cold outside, it gets so cold in the house. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:15.560 And what we pay, you know, that's determined by effectively 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.360 by the Public Service Commission in that they negotiate with 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.120 Georgia Power, they negotiate with various utilities providers for how 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.000 much of those costs go on the taxpayer and how 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.840 much you know, shareholder benefit these coming yet for the 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.880 folks that hold stakes in them. And so um yeah, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.640 we're gonna be talking to Daniel today. We're gonna be 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.160 talk a little bit about climate change, environmental racism, and 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:43.040 things of that sort. Well, okay, so why does climate 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:48.480 chain and environmental racism, how does that tie into Daniel Blackman? So, 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:54.880 I mean, uh, negotiating for investments in solar and nuclear 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:58.560 and other forms of renewable energy that helped bring down 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:03.120 the rate that we pay um as rape pairs, Uh 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.920 like that's a part of their role. UM. And one 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:08.800 thing I like about Daniel is that he brings to 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.520 this work like an activist spirit. So a lot I've 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:14.840 in this work as an elected official. I've met so 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.199 many politicians who just do what is asked of them 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.120 and probably not even that half of the time. Well, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.079 my job is to get the roads paved and keep 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.840 the buses running and lay the steward pipes. And that's 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.000 like literally all I'm gonna do. And then you've got 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.880 cats like Daniel that are like, Yo, I'm gonna do 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.240 whatever I have to do with like the power of 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.760 my position and in part like the like the bully 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.840 pulpit of like being an elected official and being a 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.120 well connected person that help holds the seed of power 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.280 to like I'm gonna do whatever it takes to like 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.160 get what my people deserve. And so keeping to hear 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.440 this interview, like he is just like like willing to 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.520 do whatever to like bring like clean energy jobs to 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.920 Georgia to create like a pipeline for people, um for 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.200 these clean energy jobs and going to be hopefully developed 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.560 through his advocacy all the Public Service Commission, fighting for 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.840 things like weatherization for low income homeowners because I have 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.880 people like us. I mean, we don't own our house, 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:16.080 but like to him, we had better installation rot and 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.920 I don't think that's necessarily what the Public Service Commissioner does, 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.760 but he's what we need. He's like to fight for that, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.679 and so like in a very material way, though, you know, 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.600 like I'm obviously supporting the SENDI Canada had something like 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.120 trying to remain as optimistic as possible, like I actually 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.160 really believe in Daniel, Like I really really believe in him, 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:38.840 and so like I really want to see him win 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.800 because I really think it's gonna make a material impact 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.480 on the lives of like millions of Georgians that are 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:48.240 struggling to pay their utilities bills. That dude, I get 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.840 the sense that it's just the first step. I have 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.360 a feeling he's the sort of person who could go 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:59.280 from helping millions of Georgians too, maybe millions of Americans 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:05.760 one day, President Blackman, Hey, hey, hey, it's a new 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:25.480 world turner to Daniels Bernie Sanders. So um, like with 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:30.679 the last episode when we were talking about marijuana, marijuana legalization, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.640 mainly you know, because I smoke a lot of pot, 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.600 and also it came up because the elections had just 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.559 gone through and it was on our mind because it 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.120 played such a huge role. I think what's played equally 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.840 as important a role in this past election was issues 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:48.520 of the environment and climate change and energy. I think 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:51.599 that was definitely a swaying factor in the way a 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.760 lot of people voted, especially people who are more on 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:59.199 the progressive end who weren't necessarily on board with vote 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.560 for Biden and in Team Blue no matter who, but 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:08.199 you know, legitimately weighed the existential threat that is climate 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.440 change against the backdrop of how Joe Biden will deal 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.880 with it and how another four years of the Trump 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.960 administration would deal with it. Um So, just to give 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.240 a little rundown of the situation for I'm pretty sure 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.080 the type you know people listening to the show, these 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.880 are probably things that you guys have heard before. But 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.640 one of the biggest reasons why it was important for uh, 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.679 you know, I guess Joe Biden to get into office 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:43.160 is because left unattended the way that it was going 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:48.000 under the Trump administration, we're pretty much like teetering on 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.840 the edge of disaster with the way that the climate 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.800 is right now. I mean, like we're talking day after 0:12:54.880 --> 0:13:01.120 tomorrow type ship like so and in I mean ten 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.080 years ago that might even have seemed like it might 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.559 be hyperbole or exaggeration, But I think with this past 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:17.160 year of of like strange global pandemics and raging wildfires 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.360 for weeks and weeks, you know what I mean, and 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.080 like freak tsunamis and ship so, I mean, in no 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:28.560 way is it to suggest that it wasn't until that 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.199 the climate started getting out of control. And even with 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.360 the things that we have experienced over this past year, 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.120 it's just like, I don't know, I just feel the 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.320 sense of dread, like people aren't really gonna wake up 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:47.600 until until we get to that irreversible point that everybody 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.800 is worried about. So I guess in the most layman 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:59.080 stoner rap dude, the way that I can articulated is 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:05.120 the whole concept of the one point five degrees. Scientists 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:09.280 have predicted that if the planet crosses one point five degrees, 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.800 that that's pretty much gonna be the point of no 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:17.120 return increase? Is that correct? Yeah, global timeferature increase. That's 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.240 like the that's pretty much going to be the point 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.320 that triggers all of the bad ship. That's the stuff 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.920 of nightmares. So um per the Climate Reality Project, which 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:31.000 is a nonprofit organization that's involved in education and advocacy 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:36.160 related to climate change. The oversimple version is that the 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.400 more heat added to the Earth's climate system, the more 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.960 heat added to Earth's climate system, the more out of 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.320 balanced natural systems get. The more out of balance natural 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.240 systems get, the more destruction and suffering we see. And 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.680 it's almost always poor families and people of color who 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:54.120 suffer the most. So where does the one point five 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.400 degree number for them? Well, at about one point five 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.720 degrees of global warming, is what about where there's enough 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.040 heat to push many of the natural systems that SUSTAINA 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:09.280 has passed to dangerous turning point. And although countries created 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.320 the first truly global plan to tackle climate change in 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.400 the Paris Climate Agreement, the work gets far from over. 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.120 There's still a gap between what countries pledged to do, 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.680 what scientists say is needed to avert climate catastrophe, and 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:27.320 what countries are actually doing because I don't know how 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:31.400 many countries have actually accomplished their pledges to the Paris 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:35.520 Climate Accord. Yeah, is it? Is it? Like? Is it? 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.960 A lot more talk? Than actual action on that a 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.280 lot more talk than action from what I understand about 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.120 the issue. But to address this country set five year 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.880 milestones to take stock of progress and strengthen the commitments. 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:50.440 With the first of these opportunities coming up next year, 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:54.200 and if we don't deliver more aggressive targets, it will 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:58.760 be nearly impossible to limit global warming to one point 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.720 five degrees celsiast or you know, two point seven for parakneit. 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.200 Then cracks would start to appear in the foundation of 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:10.080 the Paris Agreements architecture. And that's per Wildlife dot org. Yo. 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.360 I don't even know how climate denial is even a 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:16.760 thing anymore. It looks straight up I would say it. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.640 It's untruly. I mean, I feel like I don't know. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.120 I haven't seen I haven't seen the data of the 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:26.880 numbers on like we are. Public approval of or acceptance 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:31.120 of our climate reality is I don't know. No, that's true. 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.520 I don't know those numbers either. But I mean, just like, 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.680 just like what fucking COVID is like at this point, 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.080 I think if even three motherfucker's don't believe in climate change, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:45.160 that's three people too many. So I don't meet a 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:50.240 lot of real people that are climate deniers. Well, that's 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.080 because we're definitely in our I don't want to say 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.720 bubble because I mean, especially not you, because you know, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.160 you're out there and you're you're you're really like talking 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:00.960 to people. But I mean there's a lot of people 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.520 who don't take the ship seriously, even if we haven't 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.080 met them. I mean, just consider that we know how 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.399 many people don't take COVID seriously, right, And that's like 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.720 some ship that we know is like an empirical fact 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.000 that's got bodies on its name, and there's like people 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.159 who like really just don't give a fuck, and not 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.440 all of them are like Trump supporters, you know what 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.919 I'm saying. About two thirds of American adults, according to 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.560 Pew Research, say the federal government is doing too little 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:34.040 to effect to reduce the effects of climate change. And 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.000 there's a similar amount that's say the government efforts to 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.679 protect air and water quality are are not up to par. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:47.160 There's a strong consensus among Democrats of whom I think 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.520 the government needs to do more to reduce the effects 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:54.479 of climate change, even among Republicans and g appele need 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:59.639 in dependence. About sixty of people say the federal government 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:01.920 is doing too little to reduce effects of climate change, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:07.719 to bipe on bipartisan lines. Uh, people think the climate 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:13.760 change is a BFG no BFG b f D and 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.320 a big fucking deal. Yo. I don't no Internet. I 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:23.320 don't speak Internet. Sometimes it's got to be generational divide, 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.720 uh speaking generational divides, the millennial generation and Gen zs 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:31.639 aged eight, which you are in. By the way, I 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:36.320 know the government is doing too little and that number 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:40.680 decreases among Generation X and the baby boomers of Gen 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:47.040 X baby boomers who thankfully baby boomers make up like 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.800 seventy of fucking Congress. So our future is in great hands. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.399 I mean, my my generation we were, you know, we were. 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:57.439 I'm the generation from when we used to call it 0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.440 global warming like that was the you know I'm saying. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:06.280 So you remember Man Bear Pig. No it's not Oh no, no, no, no, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.520 I don't you know. I was never really the biggest 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:12.480 south Park watcher, gonad. This whole thing making fun of 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:17.639 didn't convenient truth in Algre and you know, watch out 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.800 for Man Bear Pig, like how about it? And they 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.800 later apologized. The South Park creats later apologized to Algre 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.879 for for um characterizing charactering him like that because they 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.399 were like ship this nigga was right. It was not 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:37.600 playing a long You know what made me get like 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.640 aware about the climate when I was a kid, It's 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:48.160 because one of the most memorable rap songs from when 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.520 we were kids. It was at the end of a 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.919 cartoon or was it at the beginning of charton I 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:54.960 don't know what when they played it, but it went 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:56.840 like this, right, let me let me bust out some 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:00.879 bars for you where the planet tears. You could be 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.880 one to Saving our planet is the thing to do. 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.800 Poluting and polluting it's not the way. So here's what 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:16.520 Captain Planet has to say. The power is yours. But 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:21.280 even my head, it's so interesting how that framing it's 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:25.280 always been framed was like an issue of individualism and 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:30.320 consumer habits, like if only you know, turned down your 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:35.240 thermostat and uh, you know, fly less and drive instead 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.800 take the bus, ride your bike, like we will stop 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.879 this when it's like, no, niggati, these about in corporations 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:45.399 are the ones that are just destroying the planet, and 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:48.440 so like the powers in our hands to overthrow them, 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:53.480 and like I don't know, just they're trying to make 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:58.800 you use a paper straw. It's like, this is our 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:03.640 contribution towards help him, and then they're like polluting by 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:07.960 the megatime somewhere else. So bringing it back to the 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:12.280 home front, so more specifically for black folk historically, at 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:16.480 least you know, in my experience, the issue of like 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:21.080 the importance of climate change isn't necessarily at the top 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:23.840 at least again, this is all anecdotal, but it isn't 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.919 necessarily like the main thing that most African Americans are 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:30.000 talking about. And I feel like that the failure on 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.879 the left to frame it as an economic justice issue 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.480 because again Simon's back to the importance of public service commissioner, 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:42.439 like achieving clean and renewable energy, it's gonna save people 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:48.400 so much money, so much money, uh, energy efficient upgrades 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.600 on all of these local income houses that we all 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.800 live in and shipped so much money. Like the economic 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:57.439 burden that lifts off of working people to like have 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.080 clean and renewable energy. It's just astounding. It's never framed 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.000 in such a kitchen table way where it's like this, 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.840 it's not it's about saving the Pelicans and whatever in 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:09.959 the polar ice caps. Well, A lot of that is 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.560 a lot of that is framing though, because I think 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.520 I think some of that is I think some of 0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.640 that is Republican propaganda though, you know what I'm saying, 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:21.760 Like a lot of the a lot of the people, 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:29.800 a lot of the idea of like climate climate change 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:33.879 awareness and ship like that is totally framed from like 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.960 a Republican standpoint to make it sound as distant as 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:39.880 it possibly can sound, you know what I mean. It's 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:42.919 like they're not worried about you and what you have 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.120 to They're not worried about you in your pocketbook and 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:48.640 what's on your table. They're worried about the pelicans. They're 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.440 worried about They're worried about the elephants. They don't care 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.080 about you and your kitchen table issues. They're worried you 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.480 know what I mean. They don't care about you the 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.560 jobs that are provided by the oil industry because their 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:01.840 tree buggers and ship like that that, you know what 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.960 I'm saying, Like not have the presidency for eight years, 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.800 and the Senate and the House realigally a good majority 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.560 of that not majority, but like a portion of it, 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:15.720 during which time we had like pull over the discourse 0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.960 and could have like done something about climate change. And 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.520 also Bill Paul popular support to have done more about 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:26.280 climate change by talking about it in kitchen Boys. When 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:30.000 you're talking about the Republican falking Port points, Really it's 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:37.080 these corporative, corporate Democrats that haven't taken this seriously throughout 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.520 their ten years in Congress and the Senate UH, as 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:43.560 well as Republicans that have outright opposed it, like this 0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:47.119 failure to talk about let mean, among among ideals like 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:51.160 seeming ideological allies, a failure to talk about it well. 0:23:51.200 --> 0:23:53.360 I think the productive way that would build to support 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.560 and the popular movement to get it done. Some of 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.159 these things I think are starting to change just in 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:02.480 terms of you know, black people's just just in terms 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.560